Is today the day we save Kakeru?

Is today the day we save Kakeru?

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They should have just let that bitch kill himself

today's the day he does a sudoku

Bigger question, What will happen to OTP?

Suwa x everyone

This. Terrible terrible piece of shit he is.

What does people coloring animu must feel when looking at all that QUALITY?

I would be dying inside for putting effort into someone else shitty work

It better not be.

If Kakeru doesn't die this anime will go from quite good to bad in an instant.

oh, i'm sorry then

I dont really understand what you mean but I think I got the jist of it.

I just want this to end now, I'm too far in to drop it.

God damn it. The lesson was supposed to be a bitter one.

You can have all the power in the world, you can even have knowledge from the future, but you can never change a person's heart.

Due to a fucked up clock, Rin Toesucka botches her summoning ritual and summons Suwa as her Heroic Spirit. He is able to manipulate the time-stream and vows to acquire the Holy Grail to save >muh Kakeru. This is the story of their World Line.

"power of friendship"

>black hole

The only blackholes I am interested in are hiding inside those skirts.

Already better than anything nasu wrote.

I would put all of them in a black hole, especially the bimbo gairu.

Does Kakeru kill himself today?

>bimbo gairu
you mean blondie? yeah I'd blacken her holes if you know what I mean.

At least in this timeline the most important couple is realized.

Why? He already knows she loves him in this timeline. This drama is stupid.

What a bunch of shits.

Moral of the story: it's okay to stomp on Suwa's feelings but never hurt Kakeru or he'll kill himself. Imagine being Naho 10 years from now and constantly worrying that he may off himself at the slightest displeasure.

I fucking want Kakeru to kill himself but he probably won't.
The entire group is better without him. Suwa is such a bro too. How could such an alpha looking guy be such a bitch?

Wow. It really is a bad ending

I think she's telling him to put off with his suicide until then.

But why would another confession deter him from killing himself? We know that was the main factor for his suicide, however this time around he's already aware of her feelings and Suwa didn't confess. What the fuck does he want?

The man just wants chocolate, stop badgering him.

This. He is such a fucking leech. This guy clearly needs professional help, but all he is doing is dragging everyone down with him.

During all the episodes everyone's been sucking his dick so he doesn't off himself and he hasn't done anything to redeem himself. Why everyone sticks with him is a mystery.

Does he not try to kill himself regardless?

Break his legs and hands so he can't kill himself. Saved.

Better yet: kill him first.

Are you sure? Once something goes into black hole, it can't go back.

Atleast we see how much trouble mentally unstable people are. Like would you employ some suicidal fuck ?

>3 euros were cut on my paycheck this month, I guess I'll just kill myself

>Bermuda Triangle
DROPPED

I feel if I employed a suicidal person I would be friends with HR very quickly.

He doesn't die. Higata is a bro and stops him.

What did you expect?

Best boy. Seriously. I wish the story was about Suwa, Hagita, Takako, and Azusa.
A romance with just them would have been so leagues better than this fucking story.

Yeah I was hoping he kills himself as well. He literally is one of the worst characters in anime. HIs mom is even worse.
>Commits suicide because her baby boy didn't give her attention

Her mom sudokus too? I thought she fell and hit her head or something.

>her mom
his*

Did you not watch the anime? She literally killed herself and Kakeru even says it over and over.

>He still attempts suicide even with the non-stop dicksucking
Oh god I hate him.

It's said that she kills herself very early in the series. It is made known to us as the viewer so often.
I'm usually a sucker that cries and gets emotional over the cheap shots in anime.
But for some reason I just couldn't give a shit this time when we saw the flashbacks with his mom.
She killed herself for no reason.

Yeah worst anime character of this year.

Because his mom literally has no bases to kill herself except that her son didn't pay attention with her. Plus the author does a bad job at that. She just looks like any other normalfag. He should have made it so she had brainproblems or something.

Then what was up with the recurrent check-ups at the hospital? I thought she was physically impaired and that's why she needed him to go with her.

That's never explain user. Shhh don't question the author.

It's because the writer didn't make Kakeru likable at all. It's impossible to feel bad for him because he's been a fucking shitbag from episode 1. Who would feel bad for a shitbag?

With the exception of Hagita, everyone in this show is a terrible person.

Nah, it's really just the main duo that's awful.

>Having so shitty children it makes you suicide.
holy shit

You kidding me? Suwa is a fucking bro.

He is completely fine with his child erasing from existence.

Dude he could have a child with any other cutie. His future child isn't even born yet. He literally doesn't even know his child.

How many times "paralel universe" has to be mentioned until you stop posting this stupid assumption every thread?

What an asshole.

It's not that bad. That's what he gets for opening "drama" topic in male only company. And highschoolers on top of that.

>tips fedora

Why?

but it's true

>Be married.
>Have a child.
>Throw all that away for the chance of helping a dude you knew for a year.

How can anyone believe her?

I thought it was cool to find out the show takes place 2012-2013 and to know the characters are a year younger than me.
I cant understand how Kakeru feels but that was a jerk thing to do to still treat Naho like shit after she apologized. And it was interesting to see the mom's message draft.

>suicidal character
>no one ever tells them to see a fuckin doctor
i want this meme to stop

It's okay, you can always save them later by sending letters through the fucking bermuda triangle.
It honestly would have been better if they just didn't explain how the letters got there.

diverging timelines. she knows it's the only way this event could happen.

Friendship is better than thousand doctors, that want just experiment on you.

I'm afraid it's not a meme, Cred Forumsnon.
It's just Japan being fucked up like that is all.

How did the letters get to them once they threw them in the black hole anyway?

That scene was so hard to watch. It was fucking idiotic.

Don't overthink anime.

I feel that way about a lot of scenes in this show.

Moeka delivered them to the proper mailboxes.

she understands the pain of wanting to be a friend SO BAD

>Moeka
What does the loli from kono bijutsu have to do with this?

I started watching the anime today.
> Mother commits suicide
> The son gets depressed and thinks of taking his own life too
> Friends try to prevent it with letters from the future
> Most things they do has to do with dating
ARE YOU FUCKIN KIDDIN ME?!

>Japan
>mental help

They made the letters with their own addresses written on them and proper franking. So they were obviously delivered when someone fished them out of the water in the past, duh.
It was already bad when the teacher started talking about black holes earlier. It felt really hamfisted, much like a lot of the things the group says to Kakeru. It's a suprise he never found their behaviour strange.
>"hey, do you feel guilty about your mom?" out of nowhere
Don't quote me on the exact line here.

It's not a bad plan, assuming by the time the letters arrive he's not actually depressed yet. But they failed the very first thing written on the letters so woops.
Also all of the letters were pretty much focused on erasing that individual person's regrets, not necessarily helping Kakeru. Helping Kakeru is just another one of those regrets. They truly don't give a fuck.

Jesus Christ, THAT QUALITY.

I nearly became kakeru so I hope they save him.

>I nearly became Lake rue
But did you have friends worshipping the ground you walk on and still acted like a bitch?

>I nearly became kakeru
user pretending you are suicidal doesn't mean you are.

>But they failed the very first thing written on the letters so woops.
Man, I'm still pissed about that shit.

Kek no I meant the `driving your mom to suicide part.`

Nigger if they didn't do that this anime would have been over in episode 1

Fucking neet

>Implying his mom wouldn't have found another reason to kill herself

You almost drive your mum but I ride her if you catch my meaning.

TMS trying to handle like 4 shows in the same season was probably a horrible idea.

The problem is that the justifications are unconvincing, user (5 people, all fail). The same when Asu supports Ueda + Kakeru.

>bermuda triangle
into the trash it goes

Prove them wrong faggot

You mean saving kakeru?
Anyways, I believe throwing away your family is a shity thing to do.

Still not as bad as Qualidea Code.

Holy fuck I don't think I've ever seen a more baffling explanation for time travel in a narrative before.

With 91 days, quality code and this this season keeps on delivering

i'm pretty sure they're the ones who need to prove it right first.

Only one line will not make it convincing. The whole anime is about her liking Kakeru in a romantic way.

>Suwa confessed to Naho in the other timeline
>Naho still went to him for love advices about Kakeru
Holy shit

>bermuda is bullshit waah
Ok, what did you expect? Hagita has time machine in basement? Or they met some time traveling girl to deliver the message? It doesn't matter what explaintation it is, it is always ridiculous.

No one actually cares about other people in this show. All they care about is erasing their regrets so their future selves can feel better.
The show is actually just commentary on how people are selfish, even when it doesn't seem like they are.

You know the show raises some good questions.

What do humans like about dogs?
Have humans bred dogs?
Why are dogs an invaluable part of human society?

If your explanation is the dumbest shit ever, don't even bother explaining it.

You know that would make for a much better show, but it isn't presented in that way at all.

I'd believe that if they didn't get their way in the end.

Who exactly is our guy?

I have to wonder how the manga is rated so highly on various sites. The writing can't be that different, can it?

Because normalfags especially girls love guys who are suicidal! IE Tumblr

Then why do no women love me user?

I wonder too. This set of MCs is amongst the most infuriating I've seen in awhile.

Because you aren't hot like Kakeru. You are probably some obese neckbeard.

You need to be a good looking guy. That's the first criteria before anything else.

The author should make a spin-off about bread-chan and megane.

And a Takako spin-off of her sleeping around with tons of producers to try and land a modeling job.

Don't talk about best girl like that.

Actually I stopped the episode at that moment and was thingen about dogs.

>What do humans like about dogs?
Some humans like dogs just for being able to feel superior. However I think that most of them just admire their loyality and straightforwardness, that we are lacking so much. The sad truth about this world is, that nothing will love you more than mom, dad and your dog (I'm not sure about moms and dads tho).
>Have humans bred with dogs?
I saw a gif once that answers this question. I didn't save it.
>Why are dogs an invaluable part of human society?
Everything that is different from us serves as a mirror where we can see our certain aspects. For example the difference between homeless dogs and pet dogs. In group of humans, pet dog looks around at human faces, while stray dog ignores them.

or ask some fat girl.

Bread-chan x Azuma Kazuma doujins when?

>Have humans bred with dogs?
It was "Have humans bred dogs?" Are you drunk? Why would they ask a question that implies bestiality in a high school.

>Everything that is different from us serves as a mirror where we can see our certain aspects. For example the difference between homeless dogs and pet dogs. In group of humans, pet dog looks around at human faces, while stray dog ignores them.
I think a much simpler explanation is that they're a useful resource, considering they can work and provide companionship.

Kakeru's mom was hot as fuck. I would probably kill myself too if she couldn't give me anymore cummies.

Oh you are probably right. I assumed it is a normal question since they don't know anything about western culture.

Or maybe he'll kill himself, because you know, he's fucking suicidal.

I think I'd like it more if they showed the inevitability of someone who's suicidal.
Sometimes there's just no reason for it and no way to prevent it.

why does every character look like theyre from a different anime

>orange thread with over 100 replies
What is happening?

Kakeru is mentally ill, I'm sure there will more attempts in the future.

Stuff has actually happened so there are things to discuss for once.

>half the episode was flashbacks, half of which were reused animation

I like this show but more and more ironically and for azumarill

That's a rather pessimistic outlook you have.

it's a pretty good show

it's a realistic outlook
you'd know if you've been around suicidal people

Lol

It feels like shit being near a suicidal asshole.

re:zero thread is over there

I beg to differ, I've been suicidal. Either way you'd have to make a completely different show, what Kakeru went through really doesn't justify inevitable suicide.

You should go back there yourself.

Suicide is rarely ever justifiable from an outsider's perspective.

You mean,

*I've pretended to be suicidal for attention.

Five people think it's a good idea to throw letters into the Bermuda triangle, so their past selves suck a guys dick to prevent him from committing suicide, but he still tries anyway.

Fucking no.

if you're not under medication right now odds are you didn't really have a mental illness that causes suicide
being suicidal is extremely unnatural so much so that in a majority of cases suicidal people are already not physiologically healthy

But we get his inner monologue. I guess what I'm saying is that Kakeru isn't a well written enough to be in such a story.

Either way I'd still argue that those suffering from physiological caused mental illness aren't beyond helping.

>post yfw you realise what unpure things future naho must've done

Even if you can hear someone's thoughts, you're still not them. You're your own person with your own values, your own experiences, and your own idea of what "justification for suicide" means.
I don't disagree that he's not well written though, the whole show is a mess.

It was with best boy so I don't see the problem.

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This thread reminds me of when i watched your lie in april
now that i think about it, all of these characters are huge pieces of shit, the plot is fucking dumb, and nothing makes sense even if you use "they're troubled teens" logic.
thanks anons.

Sakura pls.

Sometimes there is stuff that's way better if you leave it unexplained. Few to nobody wonders or explains why the vampires hate garlic (or used to hate it), how giant robots are so agile and so on.

Yet, is so unimportant, we as expectators don't care if it ever is adressed.

It was critical aspect of the anime how they got the letter? Not really. The letter exists to move things forward, but they themselves are not important. Is like the ancient evil trope. Who cares from where does it came? It only matter to stop it, and usually with animes that use that resource, the really important thing are the flashy fights and fanservices. The ancient evil could have been awakened by the smurfs.

That show is a masterpiece in comparison to this.

if we factor in everything but characters, then yes.

I think Arima was written fine. Kaori was the real blunder.

i am going to sleep now but i would be very happy if this thread was still here or had hit bump limit when i wake up thank you love you all very much

No appeal to the female audience.

Kakeru is very likable for teenage girls and people with the mentality of a teenage girls. Not the author's fault you're reading a glorified emotional porn for women. It sounds lazy and convenient but the harsh truth is there's no redeeming quality in most chinese cartoons beyond wish fulfillment to a very specific audience

Arima was fine, it was everyone else i had a problem with
>i know you had a shitty life and have ptsd involving the piano, but i'm going to push you into playing the piano
>then i'm gonna cry that the piano is 'taking him away' from me

>we knew him and he was our motivation when we were 4 years old, and now that he's back i'm still going to remain in the background and not affect the plot in any fashion

>i watched your mom beat you and did nothing about it.

>i'm the token loli. teach me how to play piano. also older brother complex.

i get angry just thinking about it.
but this is an orange thread. let's talk about how hagita is best

That's a really lazy and boring perspective. Why even bother watching anime at all if you're just going into it expecting that it won't be for you, or having some kind of preconceived notion that it'll be bad? You're just throwing your time away.
I have liked characters from shoujo/josei adaptations before, so obviously it's possible.

You're ugly. Also, Kakeru is written as a female fantasy rather than a real-life depressed person

Man, as a suicidal person, this thread has made me feel like a massive piece of shit

Why is Joseishit so much better at this than shoujoshit?

I've always wondered this too. Maybe becuase Josei just has a better audience so it's pandered too differently.

>Hagita has time machine in basement?
It would be awesome if in the last episode after the credits Hagita opens his letter and it just says "your time machine concept is actualy viable".

Oh man. That would make watching this shitty show week to week so worth it.

>it's a realistic outlook
Pessimists' favourite fallacy is to pose as realists.

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>people with the mentality of a teenage girls
Yeah, I can see that. I adore love stories like in shoujoshit or something highly romaticized. I guess I have a very feminine view of relationships/

For the same reason seinenshit is better than shounenshit: you are too old.

She killed herself because she felt she was being a burden on Kakeru and feels like she was being selfish. Are people even watching this?

But it did happened she was getting together with Suwa after he confessed to her. Who the fuck do you think she gave those chocolates to?

>I'll kill myself and leave my son alone to fend for himself, surely he'll be better off
Retarded.

>Who the fuck do you think she gave those chocolates to?
It was said a few eps ago it was a misunderstanding on Kakeru's part and she intended to give the chocolates to him

See

savage

In the manga, Naho and Suwa started getting together after he confesses.

Just a reminder that episodes 8, 9 and 11 are done by Korean studios.

orange-anime.com/story/

Also Telecom =/= TMS as 2 of the shows TMS does at any given time are Anpanman & Conan (Card Fight Vangard is moving to OLM because it's staff is moving there and TMS' boss is getting sick of card game shows).

For Orange the series was completed back in December during the final days of Blue Jacket's production, All Out was done between January to May of this year and Spray Of Blood started production right after Dasuke Jigen's Gravestone was completed (only 3 vets were on board (Toshihiko Masuda, Hisao Yokobori and Kazuhide Tomonaga) and alot of it's crew went over to Shaft after the movie was finished).

so have they been celebrating his 18th birthday for 10 years or what?

don't people normally just keep going with the normal progression

>black hole
Seriously? What is this shitty writing.

They're Japanese and it's anime. You see people saying goodbye and happy birthday to a picture of their dead mom all the time.

ya but i mean it makes more sense for them to celebrate his 27th birthday or w/e he would have been.

>Just a reminder that episodes 8, 9 and 11 are done by Korean studios.
Yeah, I noticed that those episodes tended to have just about all the key animation/2KA outsourced to Korea (+ the presence of Korean ADs), I kinda figured that was emblematic of how much of a mess the production was.

>Also Telecom =/= TMS
I know, but I always looked at the TMS x Telecom relationship to kinda be like Producton IG and Wit or something.

>For Orange the series was completed back in December during the final days of Blue Jacket's production
I think I saw you posting this before, and it's really helpful that you seem to be pretty aware of the studio's scheduling, but if that was really the case of orange's production, why has it turned out so messy and unpolished despite seemingly being done way ahead of schedule? It seems like only a few pivotal scenes were actually checked and corrected by the ADs in the ugliest episodes so far.

>black hole
they could have just said TIME PORTAL or some shit and I would be cool

>Why has it turned out so messy and unpolished despite seemingly being done way ahead of schedule?
Networks get earlier prints just to make them shut up.

>black hole

I think I like watching this show because I like being angry.

and this happens after kakeru suicide

Just a reminded that Telecom only did this, PSO2TA & All Out because Blue Jacket went over budget.

Naho was so cute before the quality set in.

Naho is the uncutest girl in the show.

Well that's your opinion and I can't do anything other than listen to it.

>suicidal people are already not physiologically healthy
It's curable by psychotherapy (for mental state, finding resources and coping strategies, controlling repetitive suicidal thought etc.) + meds for depression if there is need (sometimes depressive condition and suicidal thoughts here are not due to the actual illness but due to the crisis or traumatic event that happened in person's life that don't know how to deal with it).

Ded Kakeru is actually believable well written. He is sad and blaming himself for killing his mom, instead of grieving and moving on he is keeping shit to himself in order to keep a secret and fearing the reactions of his friends, so there is always pressure on him. It leads to outlashing on others and then feeling more guilty and like a burden for them more. Then there is bad romance experience and regrets. Then he failed sport event and ruined it again for everyone - more guilt and regret. Then the whole Naho situation and awkward silence between them with slight jealousy and regret.
Finally mom's letter made him feel like the worst so on impulse he became an hero.

But why does this Kakeru is acting like he is? He doesn't have to keep a secret, he has his friends and grandma's support. Naho is making her moves to made up. There is no pressure on him to outlash he is just acting like a dick.

First part makes me feel like shit and sorry for Kakeru then he starts acting like a jerk again. I hate this show.

Watching Kakeru is Tada Banri levels of infuriating

Tada Banri was alright.

From my experience, it seems like he's incredibly conflicted. A part of him wants to accept their help and get better, but a separate part of him probably thinks that he doesn't deserve to get better and still wants to die, hence him pushing his friends away by being a dick so that if he does end up killing himself, they'l hopefully remember him as a dick and not grieve for him. It's quite similar to what I went through after one of my friends killed himself last year, but I could be completely wrong in this case

I was thinking mostly of ghost banri

It might be it. Thanks, user, he became understandable now at least.