Both Kyoani and Shaft have been declining heavily recently

Anthony Foster
Anthony Foster

Both Kyoani and Shaft have been declining heavily recently.
Prove me wrong about Ufotable being the best animation studio in the next decade.

You literally can't.

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John Perez
John Perez

Both ufotable and Shaft have been declining heavily recently.
ftfy

Dominic Brown
Dominic Brown

Wat. Ufotable won't be done until TM is done.
Shaft was done because Nisio was done.
Kyoani never had anything to begin with, they have to forever struggle between finding good source materials(which will be shit anyway) and pandering to the moefags&fujos with contentless originals.

Joshua Bailey
Joshua Bailey

Isn't Ufotable's next show an otome app adaptation based on personified swords?

Sounds amazing.

James Powell
James Powell

New ufotable is shit. Futakoi Alternative is their best work.

John Kelly
John Kelly

I agree, but KyoAni dropped off my radar after K-on! ended.

William Watson
William Watson

Make Fate/Zero and Kara No Kyoukai 1000 times
There are people that unironically think this a good studio

If this actually becomes a thing, I'm gonna be pissed.

Luis Young
Luis Young

type-shit
good
pick one and only one

Kayden Williams
Kayden Williams

Ufotable? More like Type/Moon studio

Hudson Bell
Hudson Bell

Are you that bored, asd-kun?

Hunter Richardson
Hunter Richardson

Ufotable's adaptations have no soul. F/Z was shit.

Isaac Campbell
Isaac Campbell

UBW
God Eater
Zestiria
All bored shit. Fuck off Emiya.

Tyler Price
Tyler Price

not recognizing that the atmosphere and presentation of Kara no Kyoukai, Fate/Zero, and UBW are significantly different regardless of what you think of the overall quality of TM's work.

Aaron Richardson
Aaron Richardson

Prove me wrong
Two words: God Eater

Leo Myers
Leo Myers

What the fuck? Ufotable's the one with the heaviest quality decline - all they've done for years now is TMshit and bad /v/ adaptations. Tell me when they make another Manabi Straight or Futakoi Alternative or Yoyo to Nene.

Adam Powell
Adam Powell

Shaft have alwys been an above average studio, not to mention they have done very crappy shows like MCA. KyoAni's quality keep standing though her shows keep been boring or plain shit like the recent Phamton World. Ufotable has a very good quality animation through all their recent shows, see ToZ this season for example, but the travesty that God Eater was, in the production aspect, is a pretty nasty scar.

Still I think Ufotable and KyoAni are the best studios animation wise, followed by IG, Bones, Madhouse and MAPPA but only when they put some effort into it.

Alexander Rogers
Alexander Rogers

Your proof lies in the fact that Studio Bones has had a good or better series airing every season for at least the last 8 in a row. The animation quality never drops too low, the voice actors are always well selected and the OST's almost always kick ass.

BONES IS THE FUTURE OF ANIME

Ian Wood
Ian Wood

Kyoani + Shaft + Bones teaming = Profit?

Grayson Howard
Grayson Howard

It's not an otome app

Charles Phillips
Charles Phillips

Yes. They are trying to grab some fujobucks.

Jayden Edwards
Jayden Edwards

u wot

Gabriel Green
Gabriel Green

Bitch please.
youtube.com/watch?v=0CJeDetA45Q

Nathan Stewart
Nathan Stewart

F/Z was shit because of the source material. UBW was better because the original was better.

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

Tell us how God Eater, Zestiria X and Touken Ranbu are type/moon.

Cooper King
Cooper King

Madhouse, Bones, White Fox, Trigger are all better

Luke Campbell
Luke Campbell

Based KyoAni

Brayden Lopez
Brayden Lopez

Holy shit, that does look really good.

Easton Collins
Easton Collins

Googled the show
got this

Nathan Brown
Nathan Brown

Manabi Straight or Futakoi Alternative or Yoyo to Nene.

Those three didn't have the unique art style and craftsmanship Ufo has now though.

Ufo is definitely a better studio now considering they are one of the first to actually push 3D models and VFX to it's limit to blend with 2D animation.

They are doing what other studios will eventually adapt to. It will be another evolution of the industry when they can finally use CG to successfully mimic hand-drawn animation.

Liam Peterson
Liam Peterson

In what fashion wasn't F/Z's LN better than the UBW route?
Urobuchi is a better writer than Nasu and the latter even admits it.

Nolan Cox
Nolan Cox

Nasu should get his shit together and announce Girls' Work already.

Andrew Watson
Andrew Watson

kyoani's trump card
a seinen/josei novel adaptation with only pretty visuals as its appeal with no existing following

ufotable's trump card
a video game adaptation with existing fujo following that eclipses even the Free fanbase

Hmm. Which will sell better i wonder?

Carter Roberts
Carter Roberts

And if you ask Urobuchi he would say Nasu was better. That's how Japanese works.

FZ was really just generic Urobuchi shit he used again and again. There was nothing profound or ground-breaking in the characters. If you just watch his other series or games you would feel the same.

While F/SN actually has something creative with the characterizing.

Jayden Reed
Jayden Reed

The first one.

Parker Hill
Parker Hill

Whatever you say, kid

Angel Lewis
Angel Lewis

Shaft is now trying to milked off another of Nisio works right now while they are waiting to do the new Fate anime and that other anime which name I have forgot.

Colton Johnson
Colton Johnson

ufotable
Take away the flashy lights and over the top CG effects and they aren't anything special.
It's amazing how quickly people praise them when their whole gimmick is so cheap.

Logan Collins
Logan Collins

And if you ask Urobuchi he would say Nasu was better.
The only difference is that Nasu has actually said it while Urobuchi never has, though he's full of praise for Nasu nonetheless. Urobuchi has always acted like Nasu's senpai-who-noticed during interviews, really.

FZ was really just generic Urobuchi shit he used again and again.
uh
two major male characters form a powerful rivalry building up to a climactic finale bout
gun fetishism
martial arts fetishism
eldritch abomination fetishism
betrayal everywhere (but this is par for the course in a Grail War)
ability demands gradual self-destruction (Kiritsugu and Kariya)
utiltarianism is stupid (already present in F/SN)

Everything else is just like Nasu and in many cases they overlap. Two great tastes that taste great together.

While F/SN actually has something creative with the characterizing.
Bullshit. Nasu was exploring all of F/SN's themes except for its core one (what it means to be a hero) and plenty others in Kara no Kyoukai and Tsukihime long before, largely because the Nasuverse is founded on principle philosophical conceits that are consistent throughout Nasu's works. Fuck, Souren Araya's motivation ties into Kiritsugu's/EMIYA's suppositions about saving people long before Fate ever came to be.
Also,
Shirou ties back to Enjou Tomoe.
Rin is Misaya is Akiha is Azaka is the haughty tsundere cunt.
Sakura is Fujino is the rape victim.
Kotomine is Araya is Nrvnqsr is the stern intellectual antagonist voiced by Jouji Nakata.
Gilgamesh is Alba is Roa is the extremely powerful but arrogant antagonist.
et cetera
But these are only superficially similar concepts, even if their circumstances and demeanor can be compared, the core of their characters are fundamentally different!
Yeah, and it's the exact same way with Urobuchi. Superficially similar concepts explored in very different ways with quite different meanings.

Lucas Sanders
Lucas Sanders

They're not. That's why they flopped

Samuel Sanchez
Samuel Sanchez

You don't know what you're talking about. The pioneers of CGI techniques mixed with 2D is Production IG. UFO hasn't done anything new except for slapping a blue/orange filter and have very sharp matte painted backdrops in most of their shows.

John Peterson
John Peterson

Zestiria X flopped because faggotry.
Touken Ranbu isn't even out yet.

Andrew Lee
Andrew Lee

Fuck, Souren Araya's motivation ties into Kiritsugu's/EMIYA's suppositions about saving people long before Fate ever came to be
I think Ufotable noticed this as the EMIYA flashbacks in episode 20 of UBW look suspiciously similar to the Araya flashback in Paradox Spiral

Josiah King
Josiah King

Sakura is Fujino is the rape victim.
Forgot Kohaku. She fits in there too.

Also notice how Kotomine works with Gil and they're bros, Araya works with Alba (once upon a time they were probably bros), and Nrvnqsr and Roa are bros, too.

Michael Martin
Michael Martin

Those three didn't have the unique art style and craftsmanship Ufo has now though.
Two of them had quite distinct/recognizable artstyles, just not the same as each other, and Yoyo to Nene's craftsmanship was far superior to anything Ufo's put out since. Not that any of that really matters - what does matter is that they were ultimately more fucking enjoyable. The end. Technological advancement means jack shit if the anime Ufo produces with it are worse overall than the ones they did before, which they are.

Jackson Morris
Jackson Morris

a seinen/josei novel
Stopped reading there. Don't use words you don't understand, retard.

Jacob Allen
Jacob Allen

Then what genre is it, faggot?

Grayson Bennett
Grayson Bennett

Touken Ranbu isn't even out yet.
And it'll do worse than Doga Kobo's own, while also being a production disaster

Andrew Cruz
Andrew Cruz

That's not the point. You said they're a Type/Moon studio, which they're not.

Jose Morris
Jose Morris

Zestiria was all production values and no directorial sophistication. I don't really have faith in Ufotable to reliably do anything other than well-used CGI

Joshua Jones
Joshua Jones

Touken Ranbu
flipping
Pick one newfag.

Brody Powell
Brody Powell

Can swords flip?