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Zachary Hill
Zachary Hill

Who's Bruce Faulconer?

Evan Phillips
Evan Phillips

inb4 Kikuchi haters
Dubfags need not apply. The quality of the Jap ost aside, Faulconer's scroe has too big problems: it has no concept of silence (seriously why does music need to ALWAYS be playing) and it has too many tracks that try to play up the "edgy cool factor" of the series, which leads to the overall tone and characterization of scenes to be miscommunicated to the audience. Hence why (among other reasons) so many Americans have no idea what the series is supposed to be like.

Jose Myers
Jose Myers

let me guess, you find the english dub horrible and goku's japanese voice to be sublime

Jayden Campbell
Jayden Campbell

Hence why (among other reasons) so many Americans have no idea what the series is supposed to be like

What's it supposed to be like?

Luke Ortiz
Luke Ortiz

i miss Yamamoto. Him and his plagiarizing ass ;(

Lucas Watson
Lucas Watson

He's got a point, the dub soundtrack never shuts the fuck up

Sebastian Garcia
Sebastian Garcia

I love both the kinkuchi and faulconer score

His too

Christopher Ramirez
Christopher Ramirez

Yamamoto and the video games certainly had an impact too. There was a lot of rock, but nowhere near the amount of synth Falcouner did.

No one ever complains about Kikuchi for DB though. Just Z, so I can't see anything other than nostalgia.

Jace Wilson
Jace Wilson

faulconer is not bad at all, but kikuchi captures the essence better. thus why, kai is the ultimate experience. nozawa is just not good as goku, i'm sorry.

Nathan Cook
Nathan Cook

I hope the english dub of Super have different music, the current music isn't that good.

Ryder Howard
Ryder Howard

it has too many tracks that try to play up the "edgy cool factor" of the series, which leads to the overall tone and characterization of scenes to be miscommunicated to the audience

Eh, I only agree with this when it comes to Goku's character.

Otherwise, I find the complaints about the DBZ dub being too "edgy" to be misplaced. Dragonball became gradually more grimdark all on its own without any assistance from the dub. I mean, this is the series which had

- Cell jamming a spike in a man's spine and absorbing him while depicting the man literally melting into nothing with full detail
- Frieza committing genocide against an alien species, including a scene where we literally see a child get blown up by a ki blast
- Future Trunks coming from a war-torn world where most of the cast is dead, and he loses his mentor in a scene which is played completely straight with not a single bit of humor
- Buu filling up a man's stomach with his own body and making him explode
- Buu pushing the planet to near extinction

Dragonball stopped being cutesy light-hearted adventures a long time ago.

Parker Rivera
Parker Rivera

Let me guess, you find Faulconer to be hell f*ckin epic and Schemmel's Goku to be le so manly?

Brody James
Brody James

He had his moments.
youtube.com/watch?v=mrogZTkvRxs

Luis Lewis
Luis Lewis

there are people on Cred Forums RIGHT NOW who think that japanese goku's voice is actually good and fitting

Hunter Morgan
Hunter Morgan

not living in a country in which the dub didn't get shit music

Jonathan Cooper
Jonathan Cooper

If you watched the dub, you didn't watch Dragon Ball Z. It's that simple.

There's no character named Tien.

The music is not the demo button on a Casio keyboard.

Their parachutes did not open.

Cameron Thompson
Cameron Thompson

there are plebs who don't

It's okay. I used to be a memelord who never watched the series in the actual order in its original language too.

Christopher Gomez
Christopher Gomez

parachutes

What?

Samuel White
Samuel White

actually thinking that screechy grandma goku is fitting

Austin Hall
Austin Hall

My only complain about funimation dub Goku are his OOC lines.

Lincoln Gomez
Lincoln Gomez

Not an argument

Aiden Brown
Aiden Brown

Why the rest of the world can have the OST and Americans need to change it?

What about those fresh Deftones and Disturbed songs?

Americans are pathetic when it comes to anime.

Jeremiah James
Jeremiah James

Well, he's not. He has like 3 or 4 good songs and the rest is either really generic or really bad.

Jonathan Lee
Jonathan Lee

Yeah, you WOULD try and start shit, wouldn't you Kusaka?

Dominic White
Dominic White

She wasn't anywhere near as screechy back in the day. Go rewatch movie 12 and then Super back to back, it's a world of difference what 20 years does to your voice.

Easton Moore
Easton Moore

He isnt, only kids who saw dbz with funimation dub first think this is the best iteration of dbz.

Julian Evans
Julian Evans

It had nothing to do with that, it was to cheat their way out of paying for the original music.

Robert Russell
Robert Russell

Dub with Jap soundtrack is good

Noah Cooper
Noah Cooper

You are transported to a parallel universe where Goku was voiced by Shon Schemmeru and Masie Nozzle. Your mission; defend Grandma Goku.

Grayson Campbell
Grayson Campbell

That's even worse.

You get characters from what is basically an 80's American cartoon dub ala Thundercats or GI Joe, with music from what should be a parody of the wuxia genre. Shit just doesn't mix.

You either watch the kung fu epic, or you watch the so-bad-its-good cheese. Both are valid forms of enjoyment, but mixing them is just missing the point of both.

Unless you mix Faulconer with the jap voices, which sounds pretty cool to me.
youtube.com/watch?v=fddat-Mlf7c

Jason Mitchell
Jason Mitchell

He's no Shuki Levi, that's for sure.

Jordan Gray
Jordan Gray

The dub was decent, the soundtrack wasn't, so I agree.

Ryder Jones
Ryder Jones

Watching the anime

Angel Price
Angel Price

You can set aside the differences in voices and still say the original japanese dub is superior. The funimation dub suffers from extremely poor quality acting and a badly translated script, and that's not even touching on the shit they added in afterwards.

Jaxson Morales
Jaxson Morales

Well I like his dbz soundtracks.

Kayden Bailey
Kayden Bailey

I actually really dislike a number of the tracks in Z while I rather like DB's ost generally. It's the same guy, but from my recollection Z lacks a lot of the high tempo tracks that were omnipresent during DB's more exciting moments, and those were crucial to elevating those fights to their fullest potential as a viewing experience. And considering Z is so much more focused on nonstop fighting, I honestly prefer Faulconer's stuff for Z as a result, since a large portion of his tracks are decently intense fight themes.

Ethan Campbell
Ethan Campbell

Yes.

Kikuchi's is objectively and on every level better than Faulconer's BGM.

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

Dub is shit. Even after like 10 times its still toned down and edited. Roshi asks a girl for a kiss while in the sub he asks to motorboat their tits. Why does Funi still censor the dub on DVD?

Nathaniel Garcia
Nathaniel Garcia

Nah, trumpets are shit.

Connor Lewis
Connor Lewis

At least he doesn't use fucking slide whistles

Mason Hall
Mason Hall

All versions of the anime are shit

Sebastian Rodriguez
Sebastian Rodriguez

youtube.com/watch?v=PLLsSqCAHWI

KYS, faggot.

Cameron Sanchez
Cameron Sanchez

French dub is the best (only the dub, not the french openings) especially for Vegeta

American dub vegeta sounds like shit and bruce faulconer musics are ridiculously bad

Bentley Butler
Bentley Butler

grainy audio that sounds like it was recorded in the 1970s
better than Falconer's tracks

Nah.

Eli Jackson
Eli Jackson

parachutes?

Jayden Jenkins
Jayden Jenkins

This is cringy as fuck. Give me back my trumpets.

Joshua Rodriguez
Joshua Rodriguez

I thought Falconer was better.
Then I actually watched it with the original.

youtube.com/watch?v=sJMAb88v8eg

Brody Barnes
Brody Barnes

Honestly, the nonstop back and forth with 4 pieces of music bothers me more than the actual music in this scene.

Jason Wright
Jason Wright

regardless of any drama asociated with its creation, yamamoto's sound track beats out the other two.

Cameron Rodriguez
Cameron Rodriguez

That fucking terrible image quality

I still can't believe enough people truly thought this was OK that it got all the way through the production-distribution pipeline and was released this way.

Justin White
Justin White

Funimation seemed to think

how will the viewers not get bored if there isn't always some noise?

It's one thing if they just added music to silent scenes, but they even went as far as adding lines to the dialogue.

I especifically remember when Goku was fighting Android 19. At one point, Goku takes him down and out of nowhere, Gohan can be heard saying "way to go, dad" which made no sense, iirc. He was nowhere near the scene anymore, having left with Krillin to warn the others.

Luke King
Luke King

lol you amerifags have such shit taste. literally every other language dub has the japanese soundtrack because why the fuck wouldn't they? Bruce Faulconer's casio keyboard crap is garbage. He wasn't worked for Funimation since what 2003? Get the fuck over it hes never coming back

Luis Kelly
Luis Kelly

tfw grew up with spanish dub
tfw glorious ost was untouched
tfw voice actors were good and didn't sound like they had throat cancer

Bentley Watson
Bentley Watson

Didn't the guy sue Funimation because he thought he was such an integral part of dbz's popularity. Then he didn't credit or have his performers paid royalties on the soundtrack release. I know that shouldn't affect my opinion of his work, but damn he seems like a real asshole

Carson Martinez
Carson Martinez

so a dub that left screams in japanese. referred to the saiyans as "warriors" and a good amount of editing in its original run was the best? Nah I dont think so. The kai dub pretty solid though

Asher Campbell
Asher Campbell

The thing I hate the most about the American dub is that they added lines of dialogue that were never there. Like when Gohan turned SS2, they had him go through a monologue before transforming.

Hudson Morris
Hudson Morris

sub > dub meme
Look at Goku becoming SSJ in the dub, and even the kai dub. And then look at the sub version.

Logan Ramirez
Logan Ramirez

even the kai dub

the kai dub is probably objectively the best in terms of voice acting since funimation went back years later with far more experience than they had when they originally did the lines and this time they stuck almost 100% to the original script.

all kai doesn't have his the music most people watching the dub wanted to hear. still, it's better than the OG dbz soundtrack.

and thankfully, the music isn't complete shit in super.

Liam Flores
Liam Flores

Actually I take it back, I had my nostalgia glasses stuck on. The dub was worse for many reasons, but I feel like the BF ost is good for certain scenes. Kai improved it by miles.

Levi Davis
Levi Davis

I always thought his shit was garbage ad edgy as fuck when growing up

Blake Flores
Blake Flores

Not an argument

Blake Barnes
Blake Barnes

Why do sub fags whine about Goku's funi voice when literally every single non-Jap dub also gave Goku a similarly "heroic" male voice?

Jonathan Stewart
Jonathan Stewart

the one who made OST/soudntrack for DBZ english version

Blake Long
Blake Long

the kai has shitty music, the voices are fine I forgot

Robert Rogers
Robert Rogers

Insulting the target audience's intelligence to satisfy censors who want to cover their asses from anal-retentive parents, i.e., the same BS Nintendo of America perpetrated until the 21st century.

Benjamin Rogers
Benjamin Rogers

And now it's the exact opposite with entertainment where music is made to be really ambient.

Julian Turner
Julian Turner

Nothing to discuss over facts.

Leo Williams
Leo Williams

You can remove "that" from the sentence.

Parker Kelly
Parker Kelly

Best thing to ever come out of mexico. Spanish anime. And respect for the source material. Also no censorship. Suck it muricans.

John Fisher
John Fisher

contrarian hipsters and their "HURR JAP IS BETTER JUST BECAUSE JAP XDDD" while having no actual argument still trying to push their meme OST
meanwhile Toei learns and makes DBS OST sound like Falcouner OST
I rather have no OST at all than listen to that shit original OST and those trash drums.

This is good OST
youtube.com/watch?v=8CqNaP-DXPA
youtube.com/watch?v=tU5EMlT3Uzw

This is just trash
youtube.com/watch?v=OCXoQ_ZcjYo

Kayden Hill
Kayden Hill

I cant watch this shit without faulconer

Alexander Roberts
Alexander Roberts

HURR JAP IS BETTER JUST BECAUSE JAP XDDD
Does anybody actually argue this?

Lincoln Baker
Lincoln Baker

Sumitomo's Kai work was boring, and his synth tracks in Super are so bad.

Rock and Metal have been part of Dragon Ball since the mid-90s because of all of the fucking games.

Cooper Robinson
Cooper Robinson

The people who like that shit OST does. There is a reason why DBS doesn't use those boring trumpets. Even the SSJ transformation in RoF Mirai Trunks version used the superior DBS OST.

The original DBZ OST was just trash and this is coming from someone who watched DBZ with the original OST.

Julian Diaz
Julian Diaz

I rather listen to brass orchestra music over any of this forgettable generic synth shit any day.

Ryan Wilson
Ryan Wilson

The people who like that shit OST does
I like the original OST, and that's because it's the kind of thing that goes with a wuxia/mystical kung fu epic, which is the genre that Dragon Ball is a parody of at its core.

superior DBS OST
Oh this is bait. Nevermind.

Daniel Jenkins
Daniel Jenkins

That's right, he isn't. There's nothing to discuss.

Nicholas Garcia
Nicholas Garcia

youtu.be/Wc5vPDaOmhI

Luis Jones
Luis Jones

GT had the best soundtrack
youtu.be/-xis_kD7ALc
only good thing to come from Faulconer
youtu.be/TYQCeoEs7NE

Ryder Thompson
Ryder Thompson

I'm not american
Hell I'm not even a main english speaker
The jap version isn't better than the american version
Faulconer music is good
The music repartition in the jap version is good
The voice of either versions suck black dicks
DBZ anime in general was a mistake

Every pleb in this thread just disgust me because they are either patriotic jackass or weeb faggot goin back and forth in an eternal autistic rage
You can't take a step back and truly understand why something is good or bad

James Allen
James Allen

I like a lot of his tracks but felt half was unnecessary.

Connor Bailey
Connor Bailey

Poles had it rough: they had censored French dub which was then translated a second time to polish. It had strange, changed opening, but at least OST was untouched

youtube.com/watch?v=dZ1NcxAZUYk

Nathaniel Miller
Nathaniel Miller

voice actors are loved the project
recorded with all the cast of every chapter in stage, thing that even they miss now.
an excelent and well selected cast of voices.
clean voices over a well mixed audio. the sound its not like a cassette quality audio from other old anime. sounds magnificent unlike new digital recordings.

crisp clean
youtube.com/watch?v=s7KjI_SZq7A

god bless 90's mexico dubs. also not mexican here

Owen Hall
Owen Hall

If only Spanish wasn't a disgusting sounding language.

Mason Diaz
Mason Diaz

Based Mario CastaƱeda is best Goku

Henry Smith
Henry Smith

I second this

Adam Sanchez
Adam Sanchez

Faulconer's scroe has too big problems: it has no concept of silence (seriously why does music need to ALWAYS be playing)
I believe that's more of a problem of the director rather than Falconer,

Luis Martinez
Luis Martinez

They're both shit and Toriyama is the most overrated author in the industry. Dragonball's plot is generic by Japanese standards, Dragonball Z basically invented going from one fight to another with little to no plot between, the fights just aren't that good to justify doing this either as there is no variety in the combat, it is just flying punch rushing, teleportation and energy blasts. There is rarely deviation from this and when there is it is because they are fighting a one off alien with a gimmick. A gimmick I might add, that is overcome by somebody charging up like a phone. The characters all look the fucking same as well, Toriyama has like 3 fucking faces and he uses them exclusively whether he is doing manga or games.

It makes no fucking sense that he is as influential as he is. And speaking of that influence, he is also responsible for fight service even being a thing. Every single author that cites Toriyama as an influence at some point is just going from fight to fight pairing up protagonists with throwaway villains. It is awful and he will never stop because he is the Michael Bay of manga and people will never stop throwing money at him from recolouring his characters, calling it a power up and making yet another movie about it.

Joshua Russell
Joshua Russell

Pikkon's theme.

Alexander Evans
Alexander Evans

Japs, murrikans? Who cares? The true version of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z is the mexican one, putos.

Robert Price
Robert Price

I can appreciate the music in the Z dub, but it's just not my style. I liked it much better in Dragonball. Super is pretty lame though.

Leo Moore
Leo Moore

it has no concept of silence
Fucking this and the worse thing is that in scenes like the fight in cell games, music randomly changed into some silly music once the camera showed Satan and co.
The only Dub DBZ ost that i prefer is in Broly movie cause of that sic pantera track.
In conclusion, as a musician, MUH Trumpets.

Leo Morales
Leo Morales

Dragonball Z basically invented going from one fight to another with little to no plot between,
I haven't read Fist of the North Star.

Benjamin Walker
Benjamin Walker

Z dub had better music and I can't even stand the dub voices. Fucking weeaboo losers.

Every dub Buu theme > sub themes and you're a fucking want if you even try to argue otherwise

All ssj themes are tied or better

Cell them is better

Frieza theme is better

Ginyu theme is shittons better than that lame pop song

The only issue is the lack of silence. It is a big issue. But that has nothing to do with the music itself.

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

Dragonball Z basically invented going from one fight to another with little to no plot between

Logan Reyes
Logan Reyes

m.youtube.com/watch?v=aXJKr4bnGxk

Fuller characters in the dub have better character themes than anyone in the sub and you weebs still try to act like your unfitting orchestral bullshit is better lmao. Say whatever you want, but I gladly welcome dbz as high octane testosterone filled action instead do the classical majestic shit you want it to be

Isaiah Harris
Isaiah Harris

This is really nice

Joseph Miller
Joseph Miller

SS3 theme was so hype, you forgot it accomplished nothing

Angel Sullivan
Angel Sullivan

Super would be great if it had dub music though instead of jpop insert songs

m.youtube.com/watch?v=NTvrRpotAxo

Eli Campbell
Eli Campbell

Using a shit movie maker overlap job when we have people now properly mixing and isolating audio tracks.

What are you a fucking Asspie (Retard)

Carter King
Carter King

I gladly welcome dbz as high octane testosterone filled action that Barry Watson wanted it to be instead of the classical majestic shit that it was written as
That's fine. You don't have to enjoy the actual material if you don't want to. Just man up and acknowledge that you have to watch the bastardization that you're incapable of outgrowing.

Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor

Yeah, I'll enjoy dbz for what it is while you try to act like it was some high class fancy shit. Fucking weeb loser.

Hudson Reyes
Hudson Reyes

LOL the original ost was made for the fucking movies anyway, it doesn't even fit the series. For Christ's sake the original ssj theme is just some random theme from the first movie. Original isn't always better.

Adam Parker
Adam Parker

I'll enjoy dbz for what it is
But Faulconer's score wasn't in the actual anime, just Funimation's short lived fanfiction.

Wyatt Sanchez
Wyatt Sanchez

Reused isn't always worse.

William Nelson
William Nelson

Im convinced that shitty OST is why American Dragon Ball fans are such edgelords

Adrian Powell
Adrian Powell

So hypocritical lmfao

Daniel Bell
Daniel Bell

Not an argument.

Colton Wood
Colton Wood

I always thought Pikkon was awesome. Mainly because of the dub theme. Was that tournament even good or was it just the music that made it just not more shit filler?

Eli Anderson
Eli Anderson

Anyone like the Japanese voices and English voices equally (at least when it comes to Kai for the dub)? Because I can enjoy Sean and Masako.

Carson Edwards
Carson Edwards

Watch Kai.

Seriously, why does everyone forget Kai exists?

Jaxon Sullivan
Jaxon Sullivan

Dragon Ball never got a real uncut dub.

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

Both sides have excellent tracks, I just feel that the Japanese dub utilises the music a lot better. The Funi dub has a sometimes criminal habit of cutting and mashing different tracks together depending on what's going on in quick succession, as if it's doing its best to avoid any silent moment.

Logan Campbell
Logan Campbell

Because it's shit

Nicholas Butler
Nicholas Butler

mexican dubs
no censorship

youtube.com/watch?v=E2BGsqtY1o0

Nathaniel Wood
Nathaniel Wood

um ok

Evan Parker
Evan Parker

You know, footage cuts aren't the only way of censorship...

Ryder Harris
Ryder Harris

This is my shit right here.

Gabriel Gray
Gabriel Gray

It's "Faulconer Productions" not Bruce Faulconer
Bruce wasn't the only one working on DBZ there were a bunch of others too

Samuel Richardson
Samuel Richardson

Dragonball's plot is generic by Japanese standards
lol no

Caleb Brooks
Caleb Brooks

Because it doesn't have "MUH FAULCONER". And dubcucks are allergic to good acting.

Jason Walker
Jason Walker

Right, he's amazing.

Easton Peterson
Easton Peterson

Seriously, why does everyone forget Kai exists?
Because it's shit

Brody Carter
Brody Carter

shitty synth which was produced with a 300 dollar synthesizer
better than Kikuchi's orchestral stuff
lmao

Lincoln Sanders
Lincoln Sanders

Those dumbass added lines
So fucking cheesy

Cooper Bell
Cooper Bell

Yeah the dub version of that scene is horrible
Also why even use "SSJ" if you're a dubfag?

Jaxon Williams
Jaxon Williams

Holy fuck kill yourself
Literally just do it

Kayden Jackson
Kayden Jackson

I wish Yamamoto was never caught for plagiarism.
youtube.com/watch?v=NokXLGU7JBA

Logan Ramirez
Logan Ramirez

There is a reason why DBS doesn't use those boring trumpets
Because it sucks?
Dragon Ball Super is literal cancer worse than GT

Josiah Davis
Josiah Davis

That's a filter to avoid copyright stupid

Josiah Campbell
Josiah Campbell

The metal soundtracks for the movies were really weird

Which was the movie which had Linkin Park music? Goddamn that was shitty

Ryan Turner
Ryan Turner

unfitting orchestral bullshit
unfitting
LOL
This is what dubfags actually believe

James Jackson
James Jackson

synth tracks made using modern technology
not being better than orchestral shit recorded with a audio technology from the 1960s

I honestly can't listen to the original. Way too fucking grainy.

Noah Bell
Noah Bell

The music was garbage lmao
I wanted to kill myself every time that stupid triumphant theme played in Kai

Nicholas Ortiz
Nicholas Ortiz

I bet you can't listen to 60s rock like Deep Purple, Hendrix, Black Sabbath either then

In which case you shouldn't talk about music you cuck

Luis Reed
Luis Reed

Best Dragon Ball theme:
youtube.com/watch?v=Lm77VCkf_do

Brayden Cruz
Brayden Cruz

Orchestral
Shit
Pick one.

Juan Fisher
Juan Fisher

The beginning of this one?
youtube.com/watch?v=2RprbIlL31Q

David Adams
David Adams

It was pretty bad but holy fuck did it make Vegeta's Final Flash GOAT

Ayden Wright
Ayden Wright

some of the tracks were pretty great but the actual placement of them left a lot to be desired

Brayden Lee
Brayden Lee

You posted the wrong song
youtube.com/watch?v=K8JwUGR9Sok

William Cruz
William Cruz

No
youtube.com/watch?v=0mcHP1HYkds

Liam Hill
Liam Hill

Let's be honest, there is only one best Dragon Ball song.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ezrbyf6t9mY

Austin Sullivan
Austin Sullivan

Fucking this and the worse thing is that in scenes like the fight in cell games, music randomly changed into some silly music once the camera showed Satan and co.

Did you fucking watch those youtube videos where the description just says FAGIMATION over and over?

Blake Powell
Blake Powell

That's not

Camden Nguyen
Camden Nguyen

The whole point of localizing a product is making it more appealing to the market you're trying to sell it too. Bruce Falcouner made a score that reflected what the American audience wanted out of DBZ: a bunch of cool guys fighting and his score focuses on highlighting that.
If I'm going to sell Hamlet in Thailand you better believe there's gonna be some stylistic differences, and changing the interpretation of the characters to better appeal to that culture may be necessary to make money. And all the changes that the dub made to the series, both technically and artistically were a success because dragon ball is a ridiculously profitable brand in the states.
He's not necessarily bad, nor is the dub: you just disagree with the vision.

Julian Reyes
Julian Reyes

Bruce Falcouner made a score
It was Faulconer Productions not Bruce Faulconer alone

And before Faulconer it was Shuki Levy and some other compoers in the original Saban/Funimation/Ocean Dub

Elijah Peterson
Elijah Peterson

I wouldn't say his music is amazing or worth listening to on repeat, but it's a lot better than the OG 70's kung foo shit. The Dragonball OST fits, but Z worked well with that 90s rock and electro mix.

Parker Roberts
Parker Roberts

youtube.com/watch?v=o2fsh2U2LCA

cleanest OST track 2k16

Alexander Phillips
Alexander Phillips

Game OST > Shit in the anime (sub/dub)

youtube.com/watch?v=c-EAg8j7yzM

Nathaniel Gomez
Nathaniel Gomez

Not liking the American version of Vegeta's theme
Lol?

Robert Lewis
Robert Lewis

not posting yamato's re-arrangements

youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHj37PNtzvlLeOlLlsjv28afyL8wrgKM0

Aaron Gutierrez
Aaron Gutierrez

it has no concept of silence (seriously why does music need to ALWAYS be playing)
??? what does this have to do with music quality? that's sound direction.

Gavin Thomas
Gavin Thomas

Yeah no. His music was what elevated most of those moments to such memorable status. It's like fucking nothing whenever I have to watch those scenes with some other music.

Caleb Lewis
Caleb Lewis

Some are great especially the character themes but holy shit every episode has that "uuuuuu" tone in the dub.
youtu.be/FV95hgaEtIw?t=45

Elijah Torres
Elijah Torres

His music was what elevated most of those moments to such memorable status
hurr DBZ wasn't big anywhere before Funimation butchered it
okay kid

Bentley Robinson
Bentley Robinson

live in italy
get the glorious japanese music track with the dub
the dub is kind of bad but nobody cared

Ryder Murphy
Ryder Murphy

Cutting up someone else's creation for your own profit is a disgusting vision. Respect the original work or make something fucking new for once.

Fucking dubfags, you're the reason abortions like Warriors of the Wind are considered okay.

Hudson Myers
Hudson Myers

Do you think anyone actually thinks Goku should sound like a woman?

Wyatt Carter
Wyatt Carter

No i just watched the dub. The silly music changes are a problem in the whole series.

Liam Garcia
Liam Garcia

weeb
Why aren't these people banned already?

Mason Jones
Mason Jones

Because it's still not finished after all these years.

James Cruz
James Cruz

mfw watching the Dragonbox version
getting the original uncensored episodes in the best possible quality
getting the dub
getting the original OST

Why would anyone not do this?
It's objectively the best way you can watch DBZ.

Brandon Gray
Brandon Gray

tfw utsukushii raws will never be completed ;_;

Eli Williams
Eli Williams

Yes it is,you probably just forgot Kai Buu saga existed

Angel Thomas
Angel Thomas

Not with the dub though.

Justin Jackson
Justin Jackson

Of all the things to complain about....

The music was so damn good in the DBZ dub.
youtube.com/watch?v=6xOXcHDtik0

Chase Cooper
Chase Cooper

shitty orchestra music with shit audio vs hip electronic music made with cutting edge technology that gets you PUMPED UP BRAH!

Jackson Hall
Jackson Hall

I remember thinking as a kid, "That's a weird name for an episode."

Brandon Reed
Brandon Reed

Music made it not shit. I could say the same for the Garlic Jr saga, and I'm a fucking japanese sub fanboy. The dub music does some things better, the japanese music does other things better. It's only a question of what you're looking for.

Elijah Ross
Elijah Ross

Anyone know what settings they use to rip the dvds? I have a complete dragonbox set myself and I'd like to back them up.

Anthony Cox
Anthony Cox

Worst bait I've seen in a while.

Bentley Clark
Bentley Clark

dude the song is not bad. but

not all the scene is an"heroic moment",
there's no concept of silence
the original music turns into a common battle theme.. your song is just changing the point of the scene.

listen

also taco dub was better.

Dylan Martinez
Dylan Martinez

I agree

Jonathan Hall
Jonathan Hall

Oh don't fucking pretend to be all fucking classy and sophisticated. It's shit. Hot dogshit.

Lucas Mitchell
Lucas Mitchell

only good thing to come from Faulconer
I probably couldn't stand hearing it in the anime but I do like the song a lot, mostly because it reminds me of the early 00's due to playing StepMania.

Best Cell theme is the original imo.
youtube.com/watch?v=2_hSSzfYEbQ
Then we have the idiots thinking it's a song by Kavinsky.

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

The shading in this gif never fails to make me hard

Brandon Hall
Brandon Hall

2 tone shadows are awesome.
Or is it called 3 layer shader?

Old anime (very rare nowadays) with three layers of light makes me hard.

Jeremiah Butler
Jeremiah Butler

actual people who dislike orchestral music because "le pretentious sophistication"

Julian Turner
Julian Turner

Its not that one music is overall better than the other, its that falcouners fits DBZ style more.

DB is more lighthearted, not obsessed on power levels, a boys journey, so the orchestral stuff suites it better

DBZ has way mroe high octane fights, fast paced, full shounen, so faulconer suits it better

Tyler Kelly
Tyler Kelly

dude. it has just 1 layer of shade.

Adrian Rogers
Adrian Rogers

1
no shadow
2
light shadow
3
darker shadow

Evan Brooks
Evan Brooks

murricans didn't get DB untill too late.

that's why your meme post makes sense.

Eli Hernandez
Eli Hernandez

look at that cell man. its just base color and shade.
there's no light aside the glow in his eyes

Alexander Bailey
Alexander Bailey

The eyes make me question my boner though

keeps reminding me of pic related

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

Americans are all blinded by nostalgia. Everyone else recognizes the fact that the American English dub is bland and soulless.

Lucas Roberts
Lucas Roberts

Not the same dude, but it has 2 layers close down to his chin, though in im mostly referring to the line work in his nose.

Dylan Allen
Dylan Allen

Cutting up someone else's creation for your own profit is a disgusting vision. Respect the original work or make something fucking new for once.

Fucking weeb. Nips do that shit too. Hell Bakugan had a completely different score when it aired in Nipland as it was a dub original anime and Bakugan ended up even being even more poplar in Nipland because of it.

Carson Allen
Carson Allen

No need to discuss, you already said enough in your pic.

Angel Evans
Angel Evans

in my exprience, america ruins everything that was not created by them

Caleb Torres
Caleb Torres

youtube.com/watch?v=Kl4ghsv04V0
Early DBZ had some real winners with the lines they spewed.

James Sanders
James Sanders

Dragonball Z basically invented going from one fight to another with little to no plot between

Dragonball Z basically invented

This is where I stop reading you. Dragon Ball didn't invent ANYTHING at all, everything Dragon Ball did was copying older hits.

Joseph Ortiz
Joseph Ortiz

Fist of the North Star
That copied everything from Ring ni Kakero and Kinnikuman

Topkek

Hunter Morris
Hunter Morris

there are people who prefer rock the dragon to cha-la

Leo White
Leo White

Spic Dub>Ocean Dub>Funi Dub

Joshua Lee
Joshua Lee

Sha-la head sha-la~

OG voices>some Dub>water Dub?>No-Fun Dub

Isaac Cox
Isaac Cox

All these faggots talking about their shitty Nozawa, their gay sean schemmel and their shitty hiphop electronic music when the latin american dub has better voices AND ost

Me dan penita los amerifats tuvieron la desgracia de crecer escuchando el soundtrack de Bruce Faulconer, porque es una putrida mierda

Cooper Lee
Cooper Lee

I've watched db and dbz subbed too, and I still think the granny voice sucks donkey balls.

Stop being a weaboo brah.

Matthew Stewart
Matthew Stewart

"Jus saiyan,dis is THE theme to Dragon Ball Z,not some boring Japanese words nobody knows,no hate "
Niggers who watch Dragon Ball actually have "opinions" like this

Jonathan Garcia
Jonathan Garcia

Even the biggest weeb admits the orginal dub version of goku going ss3 is superior right?

youtu.be/bH_CcJ-uBWI

Nolan Thomas
Nolan Thomas

We call those smart people

Nathan Perez
Nathan Perez

Posting superior version

youtube.com/watch?v=7oTDwquc9js

Grayson Jones
Grayson Jones

t. mexishit
fucking crossboarders

Nicholas Allen
Nicholas Allen

youtube.com/watch?v=sPIBE15hISs
You goof! You're such a nut! Where did you come up with that!

Anthony Reed
Anthony Reed

"Jus saiyan,dis is THE theme to Dragon Ball Z,not some boring Japanese words nobody knows,no hate "

america ruins everything with their shitty openings, I know some of them are funny buy, why dont they just translate it?

like

or

youtube.com/watch?v=1U_RS_GPgKo

youtube.com/watch?v=JSXvLClCu0Q

this guy is a bro. singing even today and making dubs for fun.

youtube.com/watch?v=bQs4XhxfZ8I

Xavier Evans
Xavier Evans

I am the hope of the memeverse XD
amerifats

Caleb Clark
Caleb Clark

hating orchestral

So fucking hipster and edgy you bleed flannel out of your 'trendy' ear gauges

Levi Gonzalez
Levi Gonzalez

The original soundtrack has its merits, but I think for the Androids and Cell especially, spooky techno is much more fitting than low-fidelity trumpet/viola.

James Hall
James Hall

characters can't be shown without grunting or having internal monologues
music changes with the scene, changes any time something dramatic happens, retarded goofy music when comic relief characters are shown
entire tone of the scene shifts from Cell and Goku being pretty much even to "GOKU'S GETTING PUSHED BACK YOU GUYS, CELL IS WINNING FUCK. COME ON GOKU YOU CAN DO IT."
so much unnecessary extra dialogue

still can't believe people defend this trash. at least funimation got their shit together for kai. this shit right here is downright embarrassing though

Nathaniel Martin
Nathaniel Martin

No fucking clue.They did that with Makafushigi Adventure,so I have no idea why they had to produce a new song for Z.

Zachary Morris
Zachary Morris

Of the three versions, the Funi dub has the most heroic music. Goku's kinda struggling and wrecking the planet but whatever right?

youtube.com/watch?v=oWPAHbrK1ak
youtube.com/watch?v=qan_lAsbwOY

Kevin Anderson
Kevin Anderson

youtube.com/watch?v=cA-WIynIzzs

The japshit music can never compare.

Daniel Thompson
Daniel Thompson

anyone have a webm of this?

Luke Stewart
Luke Stewart

Well, the Japanese version had no music when he fired that.

Eli Williams
Eli Williams

Superior
youtube.com/watch?v=cLalr_UNX8Y

Joseph Morgan
Joseph Morgan

LOL
no. please kill yourself, stupid nigger

Liam Smith
Liam Smith

a fucking loop of the music all the tiem
the music make it lose the ambient.
also krillin trying to sound funny.

what?

youtube.com/watch?v=JHKy8nfV0x8

Asher Taylor
Asher Taylor

it's a Dragonball thread
half the posts are /v/ unironically using "weeb" as an insult and filling their posts with "lol"s and "lmao"s
Every time

John Harris
John Harris

I remember once back in highschool this Asian kid was trying to explain it to this obese mulatto weeb who was going off on this loud angry rant in the middle of class to a group of people who don't even watch anime about how much he hates it when dubs change the op and ed songs.

Gabriel Morgan
Gabriel Morgan

dbz originated in america fuck off weeb

Levi Lopez
Levi Lopez

Only dumb weebs hate Faulconer. Some GOAT tracks desu famalam.

Adrian Anderson
Adrian Anderson

Not a weeb saw it in spanish first, YEARS ahead english dub is shit.

Isaiah Bennett
Isaiah Bennett

Wasn't Goku's voice actress literally one of the first in the industry?

Ryder Davis
Ryder Davis

yes, she is now over 500 years old

Wyatt Wright
Wyatt Wright

How much is that in human years?

Tyler Reyes
Tyler Reyes

Best villain. Best underlings.

Frieza was literally the high point of Z, everybody else can just go and stay go.

Dominic Lewis
Dominic Lewis

English is usually the dub people ever consider. Japan is the weird duck in a sense. That said hanks to Super a lot more dub fans now warmed up to Nozawa.

Nolan Nelson
Nolan Nelson

You know that English was one of the LAST languages that got a dub of the show, right?

Samuel Howard
Samuel Howard

I think the music worked when they were the more ambient tracks especially on Namek it made it feel more alien.

I think the japanese soundtrack is just ok in Z it soundsway better in dragonball since it fit that setting better. Over all Dragonball was just better in general and I think we can all agree on that at least

Landon Stewart
Landon Stewart

He didn't watch the adventures of Zero and Lena

Luis Gutierrez
Luis Gutierrez

the best thing Falcouner has done for DBZ was a theme for a minor character that gets about 3 plays total

Nathan Nguyen
Nathan Nguyen

best composer
got BTFO for plagiarism
Every DVD release of Kai after 2011 replaced it with boring kikuchi score

Tyler Morales
Tyler Morales

youtube.com/watch?v=47w0YzktIho
wish he never got caught. It ruined the music in the budokai HD releases and future games would have probably actually had good music

Jack Thomas
Jack Thomas

That one was so obvious.

youtube.com/watch?v=PCpeuJ6swro

Parker Rivera
Parker Rivera

I thought the entire stratovarius album was more obvious once you hear it. the other songs seem like subtle homages by comparison:
youtube.com/watch?v=I4LEKKJyHNI

Jeremiah Cox
Jeremiah Cox

I hope the dubbs get reanimated. The current one just isnt that good.

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

I want to say it's one of the Broly movies

Dylan Butler
Dylan Butler

just posting the best dragonball song of all time
youtube.com/watch?v=0mcHP1HYkds
dont mind me

Jose Cooper
Jose Cooper

Does anybody the the track that plays when Trunks kills King Cold? I can't find it anywhere

youtube.com/watch?v=-XAzDHco1w8

Jaxson Gomez
Jaxson Gomez

DBZ has been rescripted and redubbed so many times I lost count. The Kai dub is the most consistently good Every few years Funi re releases the series because guaranteed money.

Jaxon Harris
Jaxon Harris

youtube.com/watch?v=BJXkqfGGgJg