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Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

ITT: true villains of their anime

Jacob Barnes
Jacob Barnes

She's more of an ubermensch

Parker Miller
Parker Miller

Übermenschen can be villains.

Brayden Ross
Brayden Ross

She's incompetent and brainwashed. Literally the opposite.

Parker Williams
Parker Williams

Pic related was leading humanity and the entire universe to destruction.

Charles Hall
Charles Hall

You're thinking of the wrong inspector

Levi Hall
Levi Hall

They're both incompetent and brainwashed, it's just that Mika is also a massive cunt.

Jordan Martin
Jordan Martin

brainwashed
There is literally no reason to oppose sibyl's dystopia unless you want to live in the awful world that exists outside japan.

Andrew Price
Andrew Price

defend system that told her to kill woman in first episode
defends system while living among 'latent criminals' that have no free will
Kogami, Makishima and even Nobuchika were far less brainwashed than she was

Lincoln Morgan
Lincoln Morgan

Apart from the fact that it doesn't work? Or that it's insanely oppressive? Or that it dooms you to a life in prison even though you have never done a thing to anybody? Or that a lot of the people that are "at risk" wouldn't be if they weren't subjected to this broken system in the first place?

Oliver James
Oliver James

watch the dipshit say "muh crime rate", "muh optimal talent" and "muh order".

Brayden Sanchez
Brayden Sanchez

we will put in jail everyone who might think about causing a crime or just has a ''tendency'' to it
we are peaceful people

Dylan Scott
Dylan Scott

implying a life lived in servitude and subjugation is a life worth living

Hudson Powell
Hudson Powell

I don't really like the idea of protecting law for the sake of law. Morality is something else, you act for what you think is right, not for what society tell you to. She seems to hide her heart behind her brain, too bad her logic is distorted.

Christopher Harris
Christopher Harris

p.s. you need to choose to be a moral creature. If your every choice in life is left to a machine you are not really living your life, you are a drone for your computer overlord.

Carter Howard
Carter Howard

She is police. She can't always do what she really wants.

Austin Scott
Austin Scott

But what is choice?
I can give 100 people the question of A vs B.
Let's say 50% of those people choose A.
Then let's say I take these people and keep them separate from the rest. Whenever the question of A vs B comes up, A is chosen with 100% of the votes.
Does that mean that these people didn't have a choice?

Ian Perry
Ian Perry

Actually because of how utterly broken the system is she pretty much could.

Charles Thomas
Charles Thomas

she is like a gestapo officer. those poor nazi couldn't do what they wanted they were just following orders.

Angel Long
Angel Long

I guess they should have let Makishima go, because Psycho-Pass said so

John Nguyen
John Nguyen

He would have given valuable insight into the minds of many criminals.

Connor Edwards
Connor Edwards

The point is that you can be moral without a choice. If you never choose you never choose a side and just stay suspended in a vacuum. Hell, if You just nerver do anything to prevent a bad thing happen you can even be considered amoral. The guy that alter the final result is choosing deliberately to fuck thing up he's deliberately taking a choice that reflect his twisted moral

Brody Miller
Brody Miller

you mean, to expand Sibyl system network? That's only reason why they wanted him

Ethan Long
Ethan Long

Yep but trying to fix a fucked up thing is not always the best choice, sometimes you really just need to change paradigm.

Isaac Foster
Isaac Foster

know which people will commit crimes before they can cause damage
"dey dindu nuffin!"

Ryder Jones
Ryder Jones

The point is that
Sybil does not make choice impossible.
It, like every other system, just has a backup plan in case you choose wrong.
They put emphasis on bringing people up in a way that makes them likely to choose "right" and they are faster than modern systems at detecting wrong choices, because for a really silly reason (brains) their secret service actually functions as it's supposed to, differently from ours.
But in the end, that doesn't make choice impossible. it just makes it largely impossible to make a certain choice and remain in that society - just like it's supposed to be in the western world.

Jose Flores
Jose Flores

Has it been proven that she's an incredibly unique variant criminally asymptomatic? It's not just the fact that she's able to rationalize the omnipresent conflict between law and morality that's so unnerving. It's that she's able to do it in such a way that her hue is completely unphased while she does it. A normal person would have snapped like Mika. She's literally a freak of nature.
She a cute tho

Hudson Davis
Hudson Davis

Well, Minority report makes more sense, they stopped killers just when they were about to press the trigger. Here people get sent to jail as kids because maybe they can commit a crime when they grow up.

Gabriel Sanders
Gabriel Sanders

Kagari never committed a criminal act, Tomomi Masaoka just saw too much crime and didn't like the way Sibyl worked, Kogami wanted to bring mass murderer to justice

Anthony Powell
Anthony Powell

Change can come in different forms.
Fire is one form. But it won#t fix your car.
A toolkit is another form. It may actually get your car to run.

Gavin Gray
Gavin Gray

So?
The point of imprisonment is to keep people from committing crimes, not to be free housing for criminals.

Joshua Richardson
Joshua Richardson

She wants to change the status quo, not tear it down. She's trying to avoid an edgy V for Vendetta ending where everything descends into chaos. Makishima and Kamui were both right: the system deserves to be brought down and the system should be able to be judged by its own rules. But she is also right: if they brought it down now without weaning humanity off of it, Japan would quickly descend into chaos and anarchy.

Nicholas Nelson
Nicholas Nelson

if the car is terminally ill you can't do anything with a toolkit, you need to throw away the broken parts and use new ones.

Henry Moore
Henry Moore

you need to throw away the broken parts and use new ones.
Sure. But that is still a different approach from blowing the car up while the passengers are still inside.

Carter Ross
Carter Ross

so you basically imprison and free house innocent people. Genius solution

Jordan Nelson
Jordan Nelson

Maybe they should go a step further and make sure everyone has their Hue checked even in homes! They should also have TV with 24/7 feed and mandatory exercise programs

Nathan Rodriguez
Nathan Rodriguez

Did you somehow miss the bit about "keep people from committing crimes"`?

Nathan Smith
Nathan Smith

Are you trying your hand at a slippery slope?

William Morris
William Morris

they even want to retire the old sybil for a newer system but the brains in the jars are too afraid to let it happen, since they would become obsolete and likely be put down.

Landon Davis
Landon Davis

someone that hasn't committed a crime is still innocent.

Robert Torres
Robert Torres

they even want to retire the old sybil for a newer system
Who does?
Makishima only wanted to see the whole thing burn. Kamui was only out for revenge.

Ayden Thompson
Ayden Thompson

Yeah, but that's not the point.
Guilt of previous crimes is irrelevant for future crime prevention, except for the little fact that criminals are statistically more likely to commit crimes than innocent people.

Brayden Morales
Brayden Morales

they are step away from that. Remember Tomomi was only jailed for having a "wrong think" by doubting Sybil system

Gavin Garcia
Gavin Garcia

But they literally didn't do anything.

Joseph Peterson
Joseph Peterson

the government or what is left of it. Probably because they are to afraid to be exposed, since they pass their free time torturing immigrants.

Oliver Rogers
Oliver Rogers

they are step away from that.
Then it shouldn't be difficult the system for what it is.

Henry Jackson
Henry Jackson

"keep people from committing crimes"
Can someone remind me how Sybil system prevented Toyohisa Senguji from murdering people?

Leo Jenkins
Leo Jenkins

It's very close to being full 1984. Thought policing of any kind is an infringement of basic human rights.

Nolan Clark
Nolan Clark

*Then it shouldn't be difficult to judge the system for what it is.
fixed

Aaron Moore
Aaron Moore

So is torture, that doesn't stop most modern governments to secretly approve of it for no good reason.
The human rights are a nice ideal. Unfortunately nobody cares about them.

Gabriel Anderson
Gabriel Anderson

Yes but trying to prevent crime they murderize even bystanders.
To prevent a murder the sybil itself becomes a serial murderer

David Rogers
David Rogers

The system isn't perfect. Does that mean it's completely ineffective?

Lincoln Perez
Lincoln Perez

And that is a problem, yes.

Aiden Murphy
Aiden Murphy

Innocent are jailed because Sybil system needs working slaves
murderers are free to roam
How then it's better than system we have right now?

Nathan Martin
Nathan Martin

it just makes it largely impossible to make a certain choice and remain in that society - just like it's supposed to be in the western world.

You guys scare me sometimes.

Elijah Scott
Elijah Scott

Reigen.

Cameron Jackson
Cameron Jackson

1. In the number of prisoners.
2. In the number of casualties.
3. In the safety that the people enjoy.

Adrian Murphy
Adrian Murphy

Your hue is looking a little black there boy. It won't be long before Sybil locks ya up.

Isaac Ross
Isaac Ross

What's scaring you?

Lincoln Campbell
Lincoln Campbell

Since we are talking about lifesaving it needs to be better than the alternative, and the sybil clearly isn't since it isn't selective with its murders.
It's a test with high sensitivity and really low specificity

Adrian Wright
Adrian Wright

By the fact how Sybil system judges "criminals" there would be far more of locked up people in rehabilitation centers

John Walker
John Walker

sybil clearly isn't
Have you watched the movie?

Connor Scott
Connor Scott

You are seeing the daily activity of the police force.
Most people barely ever get into contact with law enforcement.

You are also seeing the police force as it has to deal with two extremely unusual cases. That's why they were so unprepared for them.

Most of the time their business consists of "nothing to worry about, please carry on" - "thank you officer".

Luis James
Luis James

it just makes it largely impossible to make a certain choice and remain in that society - just like it's supposed to be in the western world.
In the western world you are separated after you have made your choice, the sybil act before. It's action are not based on what it's right, but on what is useful for its purpose.

Matthew Fisher
Matthew Fisher

the sybil act before.
Ideally at least.
Would you like for criminals to kill their victims before the police arrives on the scene?

Henry James
Henry James

That's how you live though. You are bound to serve your country and obey it's laws or they will throw your ass in prison and leave it to rot.

Gabriel Johnson
Gabriel Johnson

Because everyone who could be is already fucking locked in jails, while regular people worry about Hue more than anything else "because they will lock you". Imagine USA with such system, there would be 10 million or even more sitting in rehabilitation centers that have even lower rate of fixing people than prisons

Isaiah Lopez
Isaiah Lopez

The civil are just droning around, they are so unprepared to think with their brains that the first reaction to a murder is
<<Oh look, a guy is hammering the head of a poor woman, let's make a funny video>>. There is no morality in their action since they live in an amoral society.

Carson Rogers
Carson Rogers

Because everyone who could be is already fucking locked in jails,
Or on medication and taking therapy.

while regular people worry about Hue more than anything else
If they were really worrying all the time then they wouldn't have immune system collapses due to lack of stress.

You are making assumptions that aren't based on the show.

Nicholas Rogers
Nicholas Rogers

Imagine USA
You mean the country that is #1 in terms of prison inmates per capita, ahead of even the most brutal police states?

Hunter Cox
Hunter Cox

The civil are just droning around, they are so unprepared to think
That their society is on a completely different tech level from the rest of the world, yes.

They are violent-thought impaired because they have no experience with violence.

Landon King
Landon King

Look who works as enforcer in Unit one, everyone with the same character would be locked

Jackson Russell
Jackson Russell

yes, that's why I picked them

Austin Barnes
Austin Barnes

And most people are mellow as fuck.

Chase Reed
Chase Reed

Whenever the question of A vs B comes up, A is chosen with 100% of the votes.

No what would be happen is:
You take 50%A and keep them separate.
People grow and change with time.
If A vs B comes up again, A is not chosen with 100%

Christian Thomas
Christian Thomas

Sybil only works by controlled entrance. That's why they can't allow immigrants.
You'd probably start with a few guarded compounds of white rich people and gradually increase the area of control.

Hudson Miller
Hudson Miller

They are also amoral, you can at least try to stop a murder, maybe you'll make things worse since you are new to a violent event, but you act. they just watch. because for the entire length of their life they never needed to chose anything. The wirebox told them what was ok or not. They wait for the police aka the sybil to resolve the situation. Who cares if a girl get killed right?

Ethan Diaz
Ethan Diaz

People grow and change with time.
Sybil subconsciously reenforces A
Sybil gives everybody voluntary special lessons that still leans towards B

Brody Moore
Brody Moore

They are also amoral,
Crowds always are.

Ethan Clark
Ethan Clark

Both right.

A lesser known villain is pic related.

Ian Williams
Ian Williams

It won't work. All things die. Maybe Sybil can keep the peace a long time but it can never provide a true solution as the status quo will instantly crumble when Sybil dies. All Sybil can do is delay.

William Wilson
William Wilson

Who cares if a girl get killed right?
I can't remember the scene exactly, but I don't remember them not caring about the girl, it was more that they were confused because they were getting conflicting information.

Sebastian Bennett
Sebastian Bennett

Being the last thing is not really a requirement for anything, is it?
You eat bread despite the fact that tomorrow you'll need more food.
You watch anime despite the fact that you'll grow bored again later.
Other people make girlfriends despite the fact that they'll probably split up later and be forced to look for somebody else.

Nathan Hernandez
Nathan Hernandez

Other people
Lel. I have a gf I'll have you know.

I'm not saying it should be the last thing. Sybil does a lot of good but the problem is it stifles humanity's growth while doing it. It's hold on people's lives is simply too tight to allow for any significant social change. Without change there is no advancement.

Jose Hughes
Jose Hughes

Maybe Akane can change that.

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

It's pretty funny seeing anyone on Cred Forums defend it when they would most likely be on the top of the system's list for potential threats.

Aaron Walker
Aaron Walker

defend it
No one is saying it's a good thing.
What people are doing is fix people's misconceptions about the system.

Josiah Thompson
Josiah Thompson

No, Sybil is so shitty you just need to be stressed enough for it to make you a latent criminal and 10 mins later once you've sit down you're ok and not a criminal again.

It's really dumb to think a system that can change its mind in literally minutes can determine whether you'll murder 10 years later or not

Asher King
Asher King

Sybil is so shitty you just need to be stressed enough for it to make you a latent criminal and 10 mins later once you've sit down you're ok and not a criminal again.
personX is currently not thinking clearly and might do something extremely rash if not immediately taken care off
personX has calmed down. He/She is no longer a threat

That doesn't mean Sybil acts correctly. There seems to be a bug in the system where Sybil chooses Death when a temporary solution (stun) would be sufficient. I think Sybil needs more brains.

Jace Rogers
Jace Rogers

That means Criminal Coefficient doesn't work to evaluate the probability of an upcoming crime.

As someone said earlier, this shit made sense in minority report, not in PP.

Mason Stewart
Mason Stewart

That means Criminal Coefficient doesn't work to evaluate the probability of an upcoming crime.
No, it doesn't.
It means that they have two different gauges to measure your threat to society.
Some people are completely calm even with a CC way out of bounds. However most people, being aware of their CC, are stressed out anyway when they're getting scanned.

But the prof told us that the very fact he knew he'd assisted a murder would mark him for capture.

Aaron Richardson
Aaron Richardson

It means it's not accurate. There are lots of false positive and shit like that. It may detect murder sometimes, but the rate of success is probably ridiculously low considering just watching a murder scene makes you a potential murderer. This is dumb.
Would you rather have 10 murderers who make 10 victims or 10 murderers locked up along with 100 innocents who were wrongly evaluated as potential criminals?

Matthew Long
Matthew Long

10 murderers locked up along with 100 innocents
How do you get that number?
Anyone who is taken in because of their temporary stress level will also be released once their stress level has dropped again.

There are lots of false positive
What we saw was exceptional situations. Situations that almost never occur.
Yes, there are false positives. But these people aren't taken in forever. They are just taken in until they've calmed down.
You SAW that politician being released (despite the fact that everybody know it was suspicious).

Ryan Sanchez
Ryan Sanchez

know
*everybody knew

Evan Peterson
Evan Peterson

How do you get that number?
I'm extrapolating, but looking at we've seen in the series, the Sybil system is dumb as fuck. For fuck sake you literally need to watch a crime scene or be stressed a few minutes to get the Pizza treatment, which means you wont even get the chance to drop your stress level.

Even in the "they were just freaking out" cases that actually GOT the chance to calm down (they probably didn't because Sybil is really trigger-happy) after being locked up, their CC might now go down even with them not being a danger. We've seen a lot of "good", or at least lawful neutral characters, get a high CC for nothing. Everyone is like "gotta watch my psyché or my CC will go up", but in the real world even a dirty NEET or someone who watches gore shit will never murder anyone. Yet in PP apparently any of these guys are destined to be murderers. So there's only 2 logical conclusions, either people are all retarded in PP and the writing has to make everyone a dumb inhuman fuck to make its point, or, Sybil is shit. In both cases, the whole Sybil thing just shows how inefficient and counter-productive it is.

Also, being locked up like a NEET and being bored all day has no chance to make you a honest citizen. That's another dumb idea.

James Ortiz
James Ortiz

you literally need to watch a crime scene
Sybil society isn't America, you dumb fuck. There are almost no crime scenes to be watched.

lawful neutral
DnD alignments
If you believe in those, you should believe in Sybil.

Everyone is like "gotta watch my psyché or my CC will go up",
You repeating this but the show told you the opposite. told you the opposite. Pay attention.

Yet in PP apparently any of these guys are destined to be murderers.
No, they aren't. There is a long way from having a bad CC to actually getting into a realm where they'd collect you.
People play violent video-games even in the world of CC, as you saw with the remote-controlled robots.

So there's only 2 logical conclusions,
And a third one:
You are blowing it out of proportion.
Again, you are watching the police unit in an exceptional situation. A normal person's life looks different.

Isaiah Powell
Isaiah Powell

Sybil society isn't America, you dumb fuck. There are almost no crime scenes to be watched.
Still enough for that psychologist to get Psychopassed.
Watch a thriller, a Youtube video, read a book, whatever involving violence could apparently make you a potential criminal. If that was accurate in real life, there'd be millions of murderers in America.

If you believe in those, you should believe in Sybil.
It was a simplification. What I meant was that characters we can most likely state to never murder anyone were incarcerated by the system. Showing false positives, again and again.

You repeating this but the show told you the opposite. told you the opposite. Pay attention.
I just arrived. Also, what he said doesn't contradict my point. Some people are totally carefree (and also shitty human beings in terms of capacities or morals, but that's another story) while others are looking after their CC because it's raising for no apparent reason, and no way to stop it. This is bad.

Again, you are watching the police unit in an exceptional situation. A normal person's life looks different.
I'm pretty sure cops in real life don't get murderous because they've been in dirty places. Even soldiers come back from hell and obey the law. Why would anyone believe in a shitty system that brands you murderer with almost no basis, lots of mistakes and false positives? There's little to no gain to that, and on the other hand non-criminal people are getting shittier and shittier. It's objectively bad.

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

Still enough for that psychologist to get Psychopassed.
He didn't even see a crime scene, so no.

Watch a thriller, a Youtube video
Read my fucking posts or don't respond to them. They canonically have violent games.

characters we can most likely state to never murder anyone were incarcerated by the system.
You mean like Kogami?

Showing false positives,
A few false positives are within the acceptable margin of error to Sybil.

while others are looking after their CC because it's raising for no apparent reason, and no way to stop it.
That doesn't seem to be a general problem though. It's never really come up. It's all you speculating.

cops in real life don't get murderous because they've been in dirty places.
Neither do the ones in PsychoPass. What's your point?

Even soldiers come back from hell and obey the law.
And are mentally ill and in need of therapy.

There's little to no gain to that,
Except civil order, safety, low incarceration numbers and personal security.

Your problem is that everything you object about the system is your own fabrication. At least try to substantiate it.

Jeremiah Hall
Jeremiah Hall

Akane isn't brainwashed, she just realizes the truth of the matter. The world uses the Sibyl System as a crutch for judgement, simply destroying it out of moral desire would plunge the world into chaos. Sibyl is the crux right now, a world wherein jobs, the law, everything is determined by the Sibyl System's judgement. If you took that away from people used to said system do you think they'd suddenly obtain free will and strive towards a better future? No, if they don't learn to not rely on it while it's still around then they'll be lost either meandering aimlessly or figuring to commit any crime they want seeing as there's no system in place to stop them. Akane may hate the Sibyl System but she acknowledges its current place in the world is too critical to try and topple right now, Mika was mindbroken into thinking it was some fantastic magical thing.

Noah Foster
Noah Foster

Quoting you
But the prof told us that the very fact he knew he'd assisted a murder would mark him for capture

Read my fucking posts or don't respond to them. They canonically have violent games.
And they canonically get incarcerated when they're not going to be murderers.

You mean like Kogami?
Or literally anyone else in the team.
Also, Kogami did nothing wrong. Leaving Makishima alive would have meant the death of innocents, and bringing him in would perpetuate a shitty inaccurate system.

A few false positives are within the acceptable margin of error to Sybil.
It's not just a few, and it's way more than enough to make the already meager gain (a few less victims of murder) null. This is the system that literally told cops to fire lethally at a crowd of victims.

That doesn't seem to be a general problem though. It's never really come up. It's all you speculating.
We've seen that happen to multiple characters in a relatively little cast. It's safe to say this is a concern to at least some people, probably more than "being a murderer" concerns people in real life.

Neither do the ones in PsychoPass. What's your point?
They do get branded by Sybil despite being normal. That's my point.

And are mentally ill and in need of therapy.
Therapy. Not being locked up in a room and waiting for a number to get low.

Except civil order, safety, low incarceration numbers and personal security.
Do you actually believe that? Everyone in that society is dumb af, and lots of people have to get incarcerated because of their own CC. Having no morals would make people more likely to be murderers because they wouldn't believe it's wrong. Also, civil order? Really? People being stressed bends their society in half.

Nolan White
Nolan White

The world uses the Sibyl System as a crutch for judgement, simply destroying it out of moral desire would plunge the world into chaos. Sibyl is the crux right now, a world wherein jobs, the law, everything is determined by the Sibyl System's judgement.
That's really dumb writing. People would easily see how important it is to keep concepts of law, morals and more generally knowledge alive than 100% rely on an IA that literally tells you to shoot anyone who's having a bad day. For PP's universe to even start to work you need to magic everyone into a brainwashed dumbass.

Jeremiah Garcia
Jeremiah Garcia

Regardless, that's the state of affairs, they've been using Sibyl for so long that they've grown reliant on it

Daniel Nelson
Daniel Nelson

So, Urobuchi's a hack?
In-universe veteran cops don't even think of blocking the exits of the building they're investigating.

Mason Carter
Mason Carter

Quoting you
That's nice.
His CC rose because he had assisted a murder. He had never seen a crime scene though.
And this is still within one of those exceptional circumstances that almost never come up.

And they canonically get incarcerated
No, they don't. Otherwise nobody would dare play them.
If their CC does rise temporarily, they get taken in and released the next morning.

Kogami did nothing wrong.
Except murder somebody.
Which Sybil predicted as a possibility.

It's not just a few,
Yes, it is.

We've seen that happen to multiple characters in a relatively little cast.
we've seen what happens at the crime scene. From this we can speculate that the entire city is a crime scene.
Shut up.

They do get branded by Sybil despite being normal.
No, they don't. Mika has no problem keeping her CC in check.

Not being locked up in a room and waiting for a number to get low.
Those that are deemed just in need of therapy don't get locked up. They just get therapy. Didn't you watch the show?

Do you actually believe that?
Yes.
Because differently from you I understand that there are times when Kamui and Makishima are not currently active.

Tyler Wright
Tyler Wright

Name me a better system then. What system offers a better innocent-guilty ratio than what Sybil offers?

Jason Foster
Jason Foster

Daily reminder that they never actually fixed the problem in TTGL. They only defeated the being who was preventing the problem from arising. The universe has literally no plan to combat the Spiral Nemesis.

Ian Ortiz
Ian Ortiz

A few rockets going into space was seen as something special at the end of the series.

Elijah Hernandez
Elijah Hernandez

this is still within one of those exceptional circumstances that almost never come up.
Just as much as being a murderer irl never comes up.

No, they don't. Otherwise nobody would dare play them.
They probably don't raise your CC just like that. Probably in a more indirect way.
But people DO get incarcerated in PP-world. Actually, more people should get incarcerated than in real life since you're counting ALL murderers and even would-be murderers on the top of that. So much for low incarceration rates, uh?

Except murder somebody.
Murdering him wasn't wrong. Anyone would murder, say, a terrorist to stop him.
Also, Sybil was wrong for the rest of the cast too.

Yes, it is.
No, it's not.

Those that are deemed just in need of therapy don't get locked up. They just get therapy.
Except for the part where they're literally locked up in a white room all day.

Also, nice way avoiding everything that makes PP's society trash. It's not portrayed as a dystopia for nothing, you know.

Lucas Moore
Lucas Moore

Pretty much any civilised country today. Not accounting for shitty writing of course.

Jackson Phillips
Jackson Phillips

But people DO get incarcerated in PP-world.
That's horrifying! People getting locked up?

Actually, more people should get incarcerated than in real life since you're counting ALL murderers and even would-be murderers on the top of that.
No, less, because the system creates an environment where you don't have as many would-be murderers. If you are deemed dangerous you get therapy. The system regulates your upbringing in order to give you a life that doesn't make you want to commit a crime.

Murdering him wasn't wrong.
Oh yeah? People playing renegade shouldn't be stopped?
Anyone would murder, say, a terrorist to stop him.
He didn't stop a terrorist. The terrorist was stopped. Kogami just murdered him.
Also, Sybil was wrong for the rest of the cast too.
Because you said so?

No, it's not.
Seriously, substantiate your suspicions.

Except for the part where they're literally locked up in a white room all day.
Yeah like Ginoza was, right? He got therapy and warnings and therapy and warnings, and he still proceeded to fuck up his CC - until he was finally deemed unfit for freedom.

It's not portrayed as a dystopia for nothing, you know.
Nobody's saying it's not a dystopia. You are just wrong in your criticism.

Easton Johnson
Easton Johnson

So, how many innocent people got offed in their pursuit of the guilty people in Psycho-Pass?

Adam Perry
Adam Perry

No, less, because the system creates an environment where you don't have as many would-be murderers.
[citation needed]
It's retarded to think an amoral society made of brainless retards means less would-be murderers.
Sybil doesn't solve many structural issues. People don't all do crimes for the thrill of it.
S-Sybil society is equal and everyone is rich enough there
Shitty writing.

That's horrifying! People getting locked up?
It means that people get incarcerated and there could be tons of reasons for that. But most likely stupid as the rest of the Sybil system and PP's writing.

He didn't stop a terrorist. The terrorist was stopped. Kogami just murdered him.
It was either let the terrorist go or perpetuate a shitty system that gets more people locked up than it saves.

Because you said so?
Because you can't seriously tell everyone in squad would murder an innocent in the future if unchecked. Or it would mean they're all freaks of nature in an environment supposed to make you calm and peaceful. How odd that everyone, from cops to already branded people, was a future murderer.

Nobody's saying it's not a dystopia. You are just wrong in your criticism.
I can't read subtext : the post.

Fuck off. I'm done discussing with someone who conveniently avoids everything that makes this idea terrible.

Angel Lopez
Angel Lopez

The rockets weren't special at that point. Everyone was just hype because Gimmy and Darry were going to the first meeting of the new intergalactic council. They'd been flying through space and contacting new Spiral races for decades by that point.

Asher Harris
Asher Harris

[citation needed]
Watch the show.
less would-be murderers.
Have you seen how few police officers they have? They have like 20 guys, and a HUGE city.
There's barely anything to do for them on a normal day.
Sybil doesn't solve many structural issues.
Except it does. It even tells people what jobs to apply for.

there could be tons of reasons for that.
So your criticism can be summarized as you don't trust the system because you don't like it. I can only repeat that you should substantiate your points with references to the actual show, not your personal prejudice.

Because you can't seriously tell everyone in squad would murder an innocent in the future if unchecked.
But that's not what Sybil said. Sybil says that these people have a larger than acceptable probability to commit a crime.
You don't buckle up because you will run your car into another one. You buckle up because you might.

Fuck off. I'm done discussing with someone who conveniently avoids everything that makes this idea terrible.
Translation: I can't maintain my position when asked to provide evidence to support it.
Have a good night.

Jose Hernandez
Jose Hernandez

Did you somehow miss Akane's entire character arc? It was all about her realising that Sibyl is wrong, but is by far the lesser of the two evils that could exist in the world's current state. She decides to uphold the system with the hope that one day people won't need it anymore. But as of then, they did.

Blake Nguyen
Blake Nguyen

Mika is cute.