Dragonball Black identity revealed in next episode description

Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

!!! SPOILERS
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Jordan Rogers
Jordan Rogers

Goku from an alternative timeline where he didn't hit his head confirmed.

Daniel Murphy
Daniel Murphy

dragon ball pic
twitter link
is this /v/

Robert Sullivan
Robert Sullivan

Not knowing Herms
Welcome newfag.

Anthony Lewis
Anthony Lewis

Is Black holding a Member Berry?

MEMBER when Goku wasn't a space alien, there wasn't time travel or people being revived left, right and centre in Dragonball?

MEMBER LUNCH!?

Josiah Thompson
Josiah Thompson

hello grandpa

Benjamin Gutierrez
Benjamin Gutierrez

Wish Goku back to life in future timeline
Implant a copy of your mind into Goku's body

"So this is the power of Son Goku.."
"Getting more used to this body"
His ki is like Zamasu, but isn't his.

Zamasu duplicated his mind or his soul and put it into Goku's body.

Screencap this shit.

Isaiah Nelson
Isaiah Nelson

Shut the fuck up and go back to /tv/

Nolan Campbell
Nolan Campbell

The spoiler is in OP link faggot.

Mason Thomas
Mason Thomas

If this is true then DBS it's truly Toei/Toriyama fanfiction.
Black is future Goku turned evil like in capeshit.
Future Zumasu, the god of U10, had rings for U7.
Future Zumasu met a future version of Goku and a future version of Beerus. Which means a Ftrunks had to came back to present. But why? Don't ask Toriyama.
Hated ningens because of that.
Killed Future Gomasu.
Left U10 without Kaioshin.
Travelled to the future of the future U7.
Used Dragon balls.
Wished for Goku's body which should be in the other world.
No one in the otherworld gave a shit. Even when a Kaioshin used the rings to travel time and start killing the planet of the dude that helped kill Babidi and Dabura.
A normal Saiyan but now evil Saiyan has pink hair just to show how special snowflake he is.
Fagggots were clapping to this fanfiction garbage.

Carter Kelly
Carter Kelly

Been saying this shit ever since we found out he used the super dragonballs.

This is an amazing day. I was not aware it had been confirmed

Liam Diaz
Liam Diaz

Oh, so it all makes sense now.

Doesn't know what the fuck is going on

Seriously though, I'm completely lost here.

Ryan Roberts
Ryan Roberts

its a zamasu in gokus body episode
seems very gay

Henry Bell
Henry Bell

i dont even understand what is going on

Adrian White
Adrian White

so how many zamasus are there?

Grayson Turner
Grayson Turner

Wow just when you think super is actually becoming good, they manage to make something dumber than goten being black happen.

Jose Ramirez
Jose Ramirez

tag: bodyswap

im out

Ian Wood
Ian Wood

ZAMASU

Joseph Butler
Joseph Butler

Dragon balls were used more and more infrequently as the series went on.
In fact, the dragon balls weren't used at all during the androids/cell saga, until it was over, and in the buu saga until the end fight.
The most the dragon balls got used was the frieza arc since there were two sets in play.

Jason King
Jason King

There's still the COLOSSAL plot hole of why future Zamasu is evil, he NEVER MET GOKU, that only happened in the main timeline, so why the fuck is the other Zamasu evil? And why is everyone in the anime talking as though if enough time passes, their world will eventually become future Trunks' world, they're two completely separate universes with their own set of events.

Oh right, Toriyama didn't really think about it.

Juan Bailey
Juan Bailey

Zamasu is hakai'd post tea

Dylan Collins
Dylan Collins

No when the creator makes something it's just fiction you dumb spic

Anthony Hill
Anthony Hill

Literally makes no sense.

Zamasu used the time ring to travel one year into the future
Somehow this puts him in future trunks timeline
But destroying past Zamasu is consistent with the double universes and doesn't destroy future Zamasu
But past Zamasu meeting goku totally affects future Zamasu

What the fuck is consistency

Thomas Ross
Thomas Ross

When the author makes gargabe plot is called fanfiction tier, my superfriend.

Cameron Peterson
Cameron Peterson

Black isn't Goten
Ruined

Wyatt Jackson
Wyatt Jackson

wanting black to be a forgettable third rate character

Kevin Reed
Kevin Reed

Its Ginyu in Gokus body

Aaron Jenkins
Aaron Jenkins

Not clicking that twitter link. Someone post a screencap

Aaron Ward
Aaron Ward

A fanfic is something made by a fan, Toriyama haven't been a fan of DB since the end of the first Frieza arc, so this isn't a fanfic.

Jeremiah Jenkins
Jeremiah Jenkins

Toriyama both remembered and forgot at the same time, remembered to give Trunks a separate Buu storyline, then forgot that the timelines weren't past/futures of each other.

Oliver Scott
Oliver Scott

1) Which Goku is he switching with? Dead Goku in Future Trunks timeline or what?
2) If they switched minds and bodies then doesn't this mean Goku should be in Zamasu's body?

Landon Lee
Landon Lee

>>>/reddit/

Charles Brooks
Charles Brooks

1. The implication from the manga is that Black is from a timeline separate of the main timeline or Trunk's timeline.
2. Obviously we don't actually know, but Black likely destroyed his old body with Goku in it, or simply left him in his old timeline, figuring he's not a threat.

Lucas Sanchez
Lucas Sanchez

s and bodies then doesn't this mean Goku should be in Zamasu's body?

Very confusing. But also which Zamasu takes Goku's body? Does zamasu has split personality like Piccolo? many possibilities but don't listen to any of them. Wait for more sources

Jeremiah Rogers
Jeremiah Rogers

A fanfic is something made by a fan
Remainder that Toriyama made BoG because he was salty for Evolution, then DBS came.

Caleb Wilson
Caleb Wilson

oh yeah, in ZEE there are 3 timelines. The main, trunk's and Cell's. Maybe zamasu came from Cell's timeline

Bentley Kelly
Bentley Kelly

There was actually 4. The unseen timeline.

Liam Lee
Liam Lee

Why is Trunks timeline considerated the alternative future?
Trunks actually lives in the main timeline, he traveled back in time and created a NEW one. Toriyama is really the biggest Hack in manga history.

Isaiah Harris
Isaiah Harris

things are pointed out in the anime itself and nothing has been revealed yet so this is very much in the air, but I'm going to go ahead and call it a contradiction.

Luke Ward
Luke Ward

Trunks actually lives in the main timeline, he traveled back in time and created a NEW one.
Cell did the same thing though. What makes Trunk's timeline any more main then Cell's?

Levi Ramirez
Levi Ramirez

Cell's timeline is the main timeline.

Ian Carter
Ian Carter

Use the catalog retard credforums.com/thread/147859491/anime

Thomas Cruz
Thomas Cruz

None of this has been pointed out in the anime once, all the characters are acting as if Main timeline leads to future Trunks world somehow and not a single character has questioned it.

Even Beerus and Whis are acting as though Past Zamasu eventually 'grows up' to become Future Trunks Zamasu while at the same time acknowledging that there's an entirely different Beerus and Whis in those universes, it's completely random and inconsistent whether or not the writers remember how the timelines work.

Elijah Baker
Elijah Baker

Nope. I'm talking about Z serial, not super. Super actually don't explain a shit about timelines

Jaxson Cook
Jaxson Cook

It's not since Cell said that in his timeline Trunks killed Freeza, but they didn't collect his cells since they had enough already.

Also, if Cell's timeline were the original, he wouldn't have been able to time travel to a past where Trunks from the future appears, by going earlier than before, it'd just create a new timeline with no future Trunks visit.

Oliver Nelson
Oliver Nelson

Yes. There was 4 in Z.
Main timeline
Trunks timeline
Cells timeline
Unseen timeline.

Gavin Adams
Gavin Adams

all because manga is behind so they r making up a story.

Elijah Morales
Elijah Morales

it's zamasu

FUCKING BORING

Jaxson Bailey
Jaxson Bailey

The main timeline is the main timeline, this is because Cell travelled from a timeline in which he killed Future Trunks, then Future Trunks ALSO travelled back from a separate timeline in which he never encountered Cell, they both ended up in the same universe.

If all the various futures travel back into one singular timeline, I think it's safe to say that one base line is the main one.

John Ward
John Ward

In which episode is unseen timeline?

Cameron Gutierrez
Cameron Gutierrez

The Unseen Timeline is the one where Trunks discovered Gero's plans and used them to go back to the future to deactivate the Androids, then that Trunks got killed by Cell.

You don't see it, but Cell talks about it.

Jeremiah Price
Jeremiah Price

Yeah you're right, there are 4 total. I doubt Black comes from any of those timelines though, I'm guessing he comes from a timeline where the u6/u7 tournament happened, which would explain why he knew of Goku and create the zero mortals plan, much like in the main timeline, but one where he succeeds.

Matthew Hill
Matthew Hill

This, DBS threads are infested with retards like this guy

William Ward
William Ward

I must check that... that's probably filler

Cameron Cooper
Cameron Cooper

He's right though?

Parker Flores
Parker Flores

The arc isn't done yet dumbass, we don't know all the facts. So no he isn't right.

Christopher Evans
Christopher Evans

ok there's the main, trunks, and cell how does this unseen one go anywhere if cell killed trunks in the unseen timeline then there'd be two cells running around since the cell timeline is the one cell comes from?

Tyler Gray
Tyler Gray

It's not a plot hole! They might retcon it later on! D-dumbass! Retard!

Aiden Foster
Aiden Foster

The unseen timeline is literally in the name, you don't see it, it doesn't go anywhere.

In the timeline Cell comes from Trunks came back from the unseen timeline, having discovered Gero's plans, he deactivates his androids and is about to return back to tell Goku and co, when Cell kills him and steals the time machine.

Where are you getting a second Cell from?

Ethan Ward
Ethan Ward

we don't have all the information yet
t-t-that means it's a reton!!!
You can't be this retarded right?

Josiah Jones
Josiah Jones

so we have 3 timelines here
one where zamasu wishes to become goku
one where he wishes for immortality
and this one where he dies

Colton Stewart
Colton Stewart

you have no idea what a retcon is.

You apparently think a reveal is a retcon.

A Retcon is when something shown in previous episodes is shown again but this time theres a different bit to it , for instance, if they were to show the hit fight in a flashback and now Goku hit the guy with a chair.
A reveal is just something you werent told about yet, like who a character actually is or how they got where they are.

This is shit that an eight year old japanese child can understand, but your dumbass cant.
No wonder your parents think you're wasting your life.

Ethan Perry
Ethan Perry

Literally your only explanation of what's going on is that at some point in the future they'll retroactively explain why they were all acting like retards somehow.

Here's your last (you), treasure it trollfriend.

Also everyone can tell you're samefagging when there's exactly 60 seconds between your posts.

Michael Nelson
Michael Nelson

That's Cell timeline, it's how he got the time machine in the first place.

Xavier Collins
Xavier Collins

retconning = revise (an aspect of a fictional work) retrospectively, typically by introducing a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events.

Owen Cooper
Owen Cooper

Don't bother user he's clearly retarded.

Michael Parker
Michael Parker

(You)
(You)
(You)

I wouldn't bother.

Kayden Nguyen
Kayden Nguyen

im not saying there is a second cell, the user said cell came from the unseen timeline. "The Unseen Timeline is the one where Trunks discovered Gero's plans and used them to go back to the future to deactivate the Androids, then that Trunks got killed by Cell." when he meant the cell timeline. is there any direct proof of the unseen timeline? how would cell even know about it.

Julian Sanders
Julian Sanders

you are more retarded than I previously thought if you can tell thats two people answering you.

this is basic narrative causality, were you watching the frieza saga and going like "OH SO NOW GOKU turns blonde and is legendary?!What a fucking retcon"

Yer a fucking retard mate. Kill yourself

Parker Edwards
Parker Edwards

The unseen timeline is the timeline Trunks travelled back to, discovered the Android plans, and then travelled to the Cell timeline.

Jaxson Brooks
Jaxson Brooks

(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)

Actually your constant usage of the word retard gives (you) away, samefagger. Also the fact that multiple people couldn't possibly be that stupid.

Daniel Collins
Daniel Collins

What this guy says, and emphasis on "previously described"

this clown cant understand some of the most basic shit in movies and tv shows, he was probably screaming at the screen when the cookie monster revealed he was the one eating all the cookies

"FUCKING RETCON! THIS IS CHEATING! MUM I POOPED MYSELF AGAIN!"

Anthony Russell
Anthony Russell

looks like he was right, but even manga has no info about 4th timeline.

Elijah Martinez
Elijah Martinez

Maybe yer just retarded

Kill yourself. End it.Make your parents proud for once.

Charles Allen
Charles Allen

(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)
(You)

Please keep this going, it's hilarious watching some lonely fattie reply to himself over and over pretending to be others agreeing with his crap.

Ian Scott
Ian Scott

having 3 zamasu in the timelines is not confusing at all.

John Adams
John Adams

both of you stop!
let's clear this about timelines , was it 3 or 4?

Kayden Powell
Kayden Powell

cant be less than four.
trunks A uses remote on androids=>trunks A dies=> cell A lives
Timeline where trunks got remote
Timeline where trunks B went to past=>trunks B kills androids=> trunks B kills cell B
Timeline where trunks B faces Cell A

Robert Adams
Robert Adams

Actually this opens up an insteresting tidbit, the time machine they are using is the one from timeline A, since its the one of that Trunks brought over with cell

Logan Butler
Logan Butler

how does that make any sense at all though. he just went back to his future and got killed by cell after a couple of years.

Kevin Parker
Kevin Parker

Introducing a third Zamasu from an additional timeline THIS late into the arc is beyond fucking dumb.

Evan Rivera
Evan Rivera

They aren't the same timeline, the main distinction is that in Cells timeline Goku died of the heart virus, hence why Trunks travels to the Unseen Timeline, in that timeline, Trunks defeats Frieza, saves Goku, and defeats the Androids to discover the plans.

Sebastian Fisher
Sebastian Fisher

I'm go glad I just stuck with reading the Manga.

Jace Torres
Jace Torres

you dont know what happened ot that timeline, its simply not explained anywhere, maybe nothing happened, remember that cell would be gestating for about 17 years before he was released to fuse with the androids.

Juan Fisher
Juan Fisher

It's zamasu from the main timeline in the future. He met him in the Zeno tournament since Black events never happened the first time.

John Myers
John Myers

Note you can't plot Super's timelines out like this, because you start running into problems of causality where events in certain timelines affect Trunk's future, and sometimes they don't.

Some assume that Beerus' line "It's different for gods, killing him here kills him in the future" explains this away, and will be tempted to say it's not a plot hole, but in reality this exacerbates the problem, since Zamasu is clearly still alive in the future even after Beerus claimed otherwise.

Jack Morales
Jack Morales

It's not fully explained but there is a timeline were they actually destroyed the androids with the remote bomb-controllers.

Kevin Hall
Kevin Hall

Zamasu was already on the path to evil before he even met Goku.
Meeting him just sped up the process.

Grayson Ross
Grayson Ross

Then how does he know Goku, also he specifically refers to main timeline events when Goku and Vegeta initially travel to the future, events which would never have happened to Future Zamasu.

You can't explain super's timelines, it's just a straight up writing error that they'll either have to explain away or just ignore entirely.

Caleb Jackson
Caleb Jackson

the only one he didnt die of the virus was in the main one. the trunks that used the remote on the androids is from cells timeline he didnt magically end up in the unseen timeline and isnt from there.

i know that. but the other user/s are saying that the trunks killed by cell is randomly from the unseen one someone and ended up in the cell one magically for no reason.

Chase Robinson
Chase Robinson

Trunks-kun. Trunks-kun! I found a packet of instant noodles! Wanna share?

Levi Morris
Levi Morris

How is Black Zamasu in Goku's body if Zamasu is busy being Zamasu in Zamasu's body right next to him. He can't be another Zamasu since all Zamasu's are dead except the immortal one. Toriyama is fucking retarded.

Leo Campbell
Leo Campbell

I have no idea how you can't follow it at this point.

It's specifically stated that Trunks from timeline 3 goes back into the past, saves Goku, defeats the Androids, and then goes back to timeline 3 with the bomb plans to deactivate the androids. Then that Trunks is killed just before he goes back to the unseen timeline to tell Goku about his success.

Go to the scene where Cell tells Picollo where he came from, it's all explained there.

Cooper Morales
Cooper Morales

Yea, but if you remember, Trunks B had Bulma B's notebook with the exact settings for Timeline B to use in Machine a

James Wilson
James Wilson

how is there so many Zamasus
What if Zamasu wished for a stand?

Evan Diaz
Evan Diaz

I don't know how retards are still confused about the time travel when at least 3 characters have explained it this arc and they even flat out show 4 time rings.

Noah Ward
Noah Ward

You have posted this like five times, it has always been pretty fucking dumb. Why do you keep doing it?

Are you just laughing at your own jokes?

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

get answers
more questions
Fuck how series I'm not satisfied

Evan Adams
Evan Adams

i know that im talking about how he is from timeline 3 aka the cell timeline. an user said he was from the unseen one and ended up in the cell one somehow magically.

Lucas Garcia
Lucas Garcia

What if Black is actually Zamasu Jr?

Jaxson Gray
Jaxson Gray

That user is wrong? you never see grown up trunks in the unseen timeline, Trunks from timeline 3 saves the unseen timeline, in that 4th timeline Goku survives the heart virus, AND the androids are destroyed. That's all we know about it, there is nothing else.

Joseph Reyes
Joseph Reyes

Not him but is it really any different than the forced "ZAMASU" posts?

James Jackson
James Jackson

Hmm, I'm pretty sure IVE only posted it once. If it's been posted in other threads, my apologies

Evan Hill
Evan Hill

Yes

Jayden Turner
Jayden Turner

The likelihood of the immortal Zamasu that is currently in future trunks' timeline being future Zamasu from Goku's timeline is high. This is because the immortal Zamasu knew about Goku and specifically mentioned about wanting to kill him.

So we can treat this immortal Zamasu as the "original" timeline of Goku's timeline. Therefore, in this timeline Goku and co go about their way after the Champa tournament until the universal Zeno tournament. This is where the immortal (yet) Zamasu would've met Goku, since we know Kaioshins attended Champa's tournament as well.

Wyatt Hill
Wyatt Hill

yes which is what ive been talking about this entire time.

Bentley Lewis
Bentley Lewis

You are fucking retarded, Zamasu from our timeline is dead.

Carson James
Carson James

No. No, it isn't.

Hell, it's probably the same faggot.

Jaxson Russell
Jaxson Russell

I LOVE BEERUSSAMA!!!!

Lucas Cruz
Lucas Cruz

Yes by our future trunks changed timeline, long after the split

He is future zamasu from before future trunks came. Read the post. The timeline split happened right when future trunks came back due to future zamasu using green time rings causing future trunks to take action.

Jacob Campbell
Jacob Campbell

is it so hard to imagine infinite amount of timelines
it would make things so much easier

Ethan Nguyen
Ethan Nguyen

I'd rather fuck the fat one.

Adam Wright
Adam Wright

You literally cannot explain Super's timelines now, present Zamasu is dead, future Zamasu is being affected by events in the present (SOMEHOW??) and now theres ANOTHER unexplained Zamasu they just whipped out of thin air.

Just wait for the retcon.

Owen Watson
Owen Watson

future Zamasu is being affected by events in the present
is this the spoiler? Beerus in the batman sub was just thinking it not knowing how timelines work

Jaxson Reyes
Jaxson Reyes

Implying
Whiss doesn't gave a fuck when Dabura killed Kaioshin, and let Beerus die in his sleep

Carson Rogers
Carson Rogers

Right if it was different then Trunks would've never time traveled to DBS current time

Jace Sanchez
Jace Sanchez

Okay but I love Beerussama!!!!!

Jordan Smith
Jordan Smith

Everyone seems to forget that present Zamasu asked the know-it-all guy tons of questions relating to the Super DBs and Goku. That's the foreshadowing, which means that present Zamasu is definitely playing some kind of role in all this despite having been "killed" by Beerus.

Liam Lewis
Liam Lewis

Present Zamasu probably doesn't have anything to do with it.
His final role was to show that Beerus' timeline wide erase power cannot affect Future Zamasu for some reason.

Cooper Ross
Cooper Ross

only two left since all the ones without wish hax have been deleted from reality.

Ethan Turner
Ethan Turner

I assume it was a Super Dragon Ball wish.

Charles Howard
Charles Howard

Truly perfection demands much patience.

Noah Ortiz
Noah Ortiz

Present Zamasu is the one who went apeshit when he met Goku, developed a sort of curiosity/obsession with Goku, found out about the power of the Super Dragon Balls, and was obviously starting to plan something huge. It would be terrible writing if he DIDN'T have anything to do with it, because it would render several episodes' worth of content completely irrelevant.

Noah Morris
Noah Morris

did somebody say perfection?

Sebastian Reed
Sebastian Reed

Zero Goy Plan

Jaxon Davis
Jaxon Davis

Present Zamasu was just there to show us how future Zamasu got his wishes.
His actions didn't influence anything Black and future Zamasu did.

Luke Morales
Luke Morales

If cell trained for like a week he'd probably be unstoppable.

Carson Garcia
Carson Garcia

What about buu with cell absorbed?

Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

tfw you will never have Trunks admit he forgot to destroy Gero's secret lab in the Future
tfw ut will never be revealed that all the battles had the super computer gather data to upgrade and complete Android 16 with all the features of other Androids
tfw you will never see Future 16 absorb all the Ki blasts, including God Ki & make himself stronger than Black & fulfil his goal of eliminating Son Goku

Luis Stewart
Luis Stewart

Again, present Zamasu having nothing to do with the events happening in the future would completely invalidate all the build-up in this arc. If Black was just some random Zamasu from a random timeline that would be absolutely fucking retarded on all fronts.

Brandon Moore
Brandon Moore

Yes, perfection as in "Killed Trunks twice" degrees of perfection.

Parker Ortiz
Parker Ortiz

It's still technically buu and we dont know if buu can increase his power through means other than absorbing.
But everyone cell is made from benefits massively from even a little effort, especially since resurrection F

Luke Bailey
Luke Bailey

Gold Frieza
Goku Black
Am I too late for (color) character jokes?

You mean Cell with Buu absorbed

Liam Torres
Liam Torres

Buu tries to absorb Cell
Cell absorbs Buu from the inside instead

Lincoln Peterson
Lincoln Peterson

So, what could've happened is this.
1. Zamasu at Zeno tournament (timeline A) sees ningen being ningen (he always hated ningen), loses and doesn't get the super dragon balls. Goes back to his universe and then uses green time rings to another timeline (timeline B) to use the super dragon balls.
2. Here he gathers the super dragon balls unnoticed and makes his wish for immortality
3. Realizes he still can't proceed with his ningen genocide plan. So he seeks out his own self in this timeline (aka Black).
4. Tells him what he needs to do and about goku and their power/he is a saiyan, then gives him a kaioshin earring and time ring to use it to travel to another timeline to use the super dragon balls. (Gowasu didn't care when timeline A-2 Zamasu went missing)
5. Black then uses the super dragon balls on this timeline (C) and makes a wish to get goku's body, seemingly because of his description by Zamasu from timeline A. He is still weak so they then just travel timelines AND universes to find one without a Hakaishin.
6. Black then lands in future trunks timeline (D) and rekts shit after sometime after finding out no Hakaishin Beerus since Kaioshin died due to dabura fight with trunks.
7. Future trunks then goes back in time to timeline A. This caused a timeline split since it didn't originally happen. This timeline is now timeline A-2 which is what we are witnessing happen.

Brayden Reed
Brayden Reed

Xenoverse has Blue Buu. [Spoiler]My testicles[/spoiler] has White Cell.

Isaiah Smith
Isaiah Smith

Black and FZamasu are probably from timelines separate from FTrunks and main timeline.
Black is definitely not from either of those because of his "I finally found a timeline where beerus isn't alive" statement in the super manga.

Justin King
Justin King

tfw no SSGSS Golden Cell yet

Cameron Phillips
Cameron Phillips

tfw no bio-android race in Xenoverse
It's not fair

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

I want at least a subplot of a filler episode about Goten and Trunks fighting Chartreuse Yamcha

Julian Price
Julian Price

Black is definitely not from either of those because of his "I finally found a timeline where beerus isn't alive" statement in the super manga.

How does that rule out Black being present Zamasu?

Jace Turner
Jace Turner

Which came first, Black or the future Zamasu?

Jeremiah Torres
Jeremiah Torres

The egg.

Benjamin Roberts
Benjamin Roberts

They mentioned they were "allies", so they were probably independent and just met in one timeline while searching.

Ian Evans
Ian Evans

Present Zamasu never got to use the super dragon balls because he was killed.
If Black was present zamasu he'd be from another timeline that was extremely similar to the main one, but Beerus didn't stop him.

Gavin Reyes
Gavin Reyes

Present Zamasu died, and Black existed in order to cause Trunks to come back to the main timeline so that Goku would investigate Zamasu and they would meet.

Which also invalidates this explanation of events.

Luke Lewis
Luke Lewis

That's not what I asked. How does Black's statement "I finally found a timeline where the God of Destruction doesn't exist" rule out Black being present Zamasu? Beerus is alive in the main timeline.

As for present Zamasu never getting the opportunity to travel a year into the future and use the Super DBs, how do you KNOW that? There are more ways of time travelling other than just using the time rings.

Dylan Cox
Dylan Cox

So I guess Black killed Goku who was in Zamasu's body. It would be great if Gokumasu appeared to help out. It also looks like Black probably killed all of Goku's friends in whatever timeline he took the body from. Explains how he recognized Vegeta at first.

Grayson Williams
Grayson Williams

Black knew who Vegeta was because his still Goku, all memories and skills were preserved up to a point.

Jackson Perez
Jackson Perez

Why is Kai of Time such a cockslut?

Luke Morales
Luke Morales

So it's pretty much what everybody thought at the beggining?

Grayson Mitchell
Grayson Mitchell

Yes, we all knew from the start the Green Kai from the OP had possessed Goku's body.

Asher Williams
Asher Williams

16 still would like animuhls

Robert Gray
Robert Gray

I really want to see the Universe where Goku went home in Ginyu's body. Oh the wacky adventures

Juan Wilson
Juan Wilson

an alternate timeline Goku's body get it right retard gosh

Josiah Torres
Josiah Torres

I hope all this mess with the timelines turns out to be the foundation for the next arc.

Dylan Kelly
Dylan Kelly

It's over Black
I have the high ground

Aaron Bell
Aaron Bell

so where the fuck is Gokumasu and what is he doing? or did he get BTFO by Black?

inb4 Gokumasu goes into the future/past to help present goku

Gabriel Hill
Gabriel Hill

daily reminder that saiyan females are too lewd for this world

Henry Diaz
Henry Diaz

Well yes, we all thought Black was Zamasu, that's why it was shocking to see him right next to Black.

Tyler Carter
Tyler Carter

4 Timelines

Original Cell timeline
Trunks gets killed by cell, Zamasu alive.

Unknown timeline
The one OG Trunks traveled to, Trunks maybe got the remote in this timeline, who knows, Zamasu alive.

Main Timeline
Created by Cell traveling back way before Trunks did, this is the Manga/Super timeline, Zamasu dead.

Mai x Trunks Timeline
Since Cell traveled back in time way before OG Trunks did, the past contains a Trunks arriving 1 year later, another Trunks has to arrive in the new Timeline from somewhere, he is a copy of OG Trunks that thanks to Main Timeline events got a lot more powerful and changed OG Trunks fate, Zamasu and Black Goku alive.

So there is at least 3 potential Zamasu

Kevin Wilson
Kevin Wilson

Zamasu literally switches minds with him, retard.

Cameron Bell
Cameron Bell

"Ehhh...unacceptable."
DELETED

Leo Perez
Leo Perez

All those Zamasus should be dead becasue Beerus deleted them all.

Jaxson Gonzalez
Jaxson Gonzalez

I was expecting something stupid and lame but they still managed to find a way to disappointed

Camden Butler
Camden Butler

The one OG Trunks traveled to, Trunks maybe got the remote in this timeline, who knows, Zamasu alive.

Here's how it makes sense:
How would the story play out if Cell never came back from the future and interrupted the Android arc?

They would still get the idea to go to Gero's lab and discover the plans for the Androids and create the remote. Since there's no Cell, there's no urgency so the remote isn't entrusted to Krillin and they finish off the Androids.

Trunks then takes the remote back to his future, having never trained in the time chamber and deactivates them. Eventually, Cell matures and Trunks cannot compete with him because he never got that strong. Cell kills Trunks and returns to the past.

Charles Allen
Charles Allen

Trunks literally said in the last episode that last time they did this it didn't change his timeline. And it was already shown that they aren't gone in that timeline.

The only people that think the problem is solved is Beerus and Whis because they don't know that tomelines work like that since they've never experienced it.

Beerus just said "well I'm a god so it had to have done something."

Chase Gomez
Chase Gomez

You can plot it out like that though. Nothing in their timeline changes Trunks' timeline. Beerus just assumed it did because he is a god.

Nathan Long
Nathan Long

You need Zeno tier power to completely erase a person from all timelines

Cooper White
Cooper White

Not true, the main timeline and Trunks' timeline are completely different. You can't compare their events the same way. There is a chamce Zamasu wouldn't have even turned out evil if it weren't for Trunks coming and causing them to confront Zamasu in the main timeline. We don't know yet because we don't know what happened to Trunks' timeline Zamasu and who Black is.

Charles Price
Charles Price

That's what the Cat says yet he is obviously wrong since Zamasu is just fine in Trunks timeline.

I think of two solutions to this, one is that Beerus just talked BS, since he doesn't like time travel and he wants Trunks to go back to his timeline and get killed and stop interfering with his own timeline.

Or Zamasu immortality overrides Beerus ability, now at least 1 Zamasu is alive, maybe the other ones are also dead or 1 died, 1 lived, who knows, this could fit, OG Trunks's Zamasu never met Goku, he got killed one day by Beerus ability, Unseen Timeline did meet Goku and switched minds and body with him, Gokumasu got killed or Beerus ability didn't work on body switchers, Trunks Timeline Zamasu got immortal after meeting Black Goku since Goku is dead to make another Black Goku, and Main Zamasu is dead.

Yeah that's what I think happened too, another way is that Goku & co got strong enough to kill the androids which are not as strong as the mainline ones, Trunks comes back and they give him the remote or train him enough, but Cell is still stronger and he gets killed.

Jayden Gonzalez
Jayden Gonzalez

Also because Whis' power for some stupid reason doesn't create alternate timelines but really just rewind rewind time.
Either way it's just Beerus and Whis being cocky shits.

Jose Thomas
Jose Thomas

WHAT A TWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEST

Lincoln Martin
Lincoln Martin

4
Cell is the main object

1. Cell who killed Trunks and went back to the past this happens in the future
1.1 There's a baby Cell living in the past (this past is where F-Trunks killed went)
The sets of events differs from the other past counterpart, this baby Cell wont be able to become perfect due to androids being deactived, and probably killed by Piccolo since he is the first person who encounters him

2. Trunks kills imperfect Cell, this happens in the future
2.1. Baby Cell is btfo in the lab, this happens in the present

Set of events happens differently, wont explain them.
Just pointing out how easy is to figure out the timelines

Logan Lewis
Logan Lewis

But there was nothing Whis could do about it. They didn't know about Buu, it wasn't their job to know or care. They don't watch over humanity they destroy it. By the time the Kaioshin/Beerus died it was too late. Even if he rewinded time, he wouldn't know how or why Kaioshin died, nor would he be able to stop it. He is fast but he can't teleport.

Christian Gray
Christian Gray

Because the whole reason he wanted to kill Gowasu was to use the time rings to time travel. He wouldn't have had to kill Gowasu for the time rings if he could time travel already.

Andrew Wright
Andrew Wright

It definitely had to do with Beerus being cocky as hell with the whole "well whatever I'm a god so it must have worked" but it could just as well be ignorance toward how time travel truly works, since they may not have ever experienced or known the distinction between actual time travel and Whis' ability to rewind time, which are completely different.

Kayden Cook
Kayden Cook

I'm pretty sure they just don't realize that a multiverse exists and think that future is their future. Note that the Kaioshin rings of which they're aware also only let to you travel to the future of your current timeline, not a different timeline.

So it's both ignorance and arrogance on the part of Whis and Beerus that's basically there to throw off the viewer.

Asher Hernandez
Asher Hernandez

reminder black is hoping timelines finding the right one that beerus is dead and hit a jackpot in trunks' timeline

Nolan Flores
Nolan Flores

Future Zumasu met a future version of Goku and a future version of Beerus. Which means a Ftrunks had to came back to present. But why? Don't ask Toriyama
Wished for Goku's body which should be in the other world.
Okay this a contradiction because this the same Trunks from Android Saga therefore its the timeline where the Androids became active and won. Better question is how he got to this future.
Left U10 without Kaioshin.
Killing Gowasu = wearing Supreme Kaioshin Earrings.
Hated ningens because of that.
Hes always hated mortals, Goku escalated it probably.
Wished for Goku's body which should be in the other world.
How do we know this? Goku died of natural causes in the Android Saga, in Future Trunks timeline.
A normal Saiyan but now evil Saiyan has pink hair just to show how special snowflake he is.
Hes tapping into his own Godly Ki not the Super Saiyan Gods Godly Ki.

We also dont know WHICH version of Goku we swapped with.

Henry Bennett
Henry Bennett

So wait? Are the Xenoverse games canon? Because they show that Whis/Beerus are unaffected by time manipulation and exist outside chronological time.

Luke Lee
Luke Lee

If he is goku I swear I'm dropping this shit show.

Jayden Cruz
Jayden Cruz

Not necessarily. He wanted to kill Gowasu to get the time rings to go to a timeline where the GoD didn't exist to interfere with his plans (as implied in the manga), but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be willing to temporarily use a different time travel method if it just meant making a wish with the Super DBs. You're confusing the ends.

I can't believe you people actually want a third fucking Zamasu to pop out of nowhere for no reason.

Ryan Russell
Ryan Russell

I feel it isn't to throw off the viewer, but rather give them a reason to return to the future. Without thinking that everything was fixed, they would have no reason to go back considering they got destroyed last time and have absolutely no plan and have done no training since last time.

Hudson Phillips
Hudson Phillips

its a future zamasu transplanted in gokus body.
so drop it now, kais are dumb shit.

Logan Ramirez
Logan Ramirez

I was a different person responding, I never said I wanted a 3rd Zamasu. I'm just saying current Zamasu had no reason to kill Gowasu and take the time rings if he had a different time travel method.

If he had a different travel method he wouldn't need them at all. He could just use the super dragon balls for time travel powers, his own time ring, or to be in a timeline without Beerus.

Noah Lee
Noah Lee

Okay so two most likely outcomes are

Black is alternate Goku who never hit his head and went on to become a genocidal maniac/possible God of Destruction who decided to team up with Zamasu for reasons
Zamasu Ginyu'd/planted his soul in alternate Goku. Kai "evil god ki" or whatever combined with Goku's base strength made pink Goku really strong.

Adrian Roberts
Adrian Roberts

Well, I feel like this 2 upcoming episodes are a total waste after this shit. I love Zamasu but I really was expecting some kind of plot twist

Thomas Perez
Thomas Perez

is the super manga a lot better than the anime or something

Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill

anyway I will post this mini comic of Yo boy Gowasu reviewing tea's with our boy Black

Landon Howard
Landon Howard

translation?

Daniel Jenkins
Daniel Jenkins

More like all in.

Henry Clark
Henry Clark

I don't know moon runes user. I hope someone else can help us

Ryder Diaz
Ryder Diaz

Okay how many of you are Mexican or some form of SA? A lot of you have terrible English grammar.

Kevin Martin
Kevin Martin

So now Goku has had two other men inside of him.

Owen Howard
Owen Howard

I'm just saying current Zamasu had no reason to kill Gowasu and take the time rings if he had a different time travel method.

Not really, since a normal time travelling method is inferior to that of the time rings. Certain special time rings were implied to allow free travel to different pre-established timelines, unlike regular time machines for example which can only either create new timelines or return to the timelines from whence they came. So he would literally only need the lesser method just to make his wish.

Daniel Turner
Daniel Turner

Why are you asking that on a DB thread if you know the answer?

Lincoln Stewart
Lincoln Stewart

So which Goku did Zamzam swapped minds with? The original Goku we know, the alternative Goku from Trunks' timeline, another Goku that has no connection either timelines, or just from Zamzam's universe?

Gavin Hall
Gavin Hall

Most like the timeline that original timeline trunks who got killed off by imperfect cell got the blue prints from shutting 17 and 18.

Brayden Price
Brayden Price

you know a good 50% of the faggots here are mexican'ts or brazilians tho user.
seriously this is why these threads are often full of GT shitposts.

Blake Howard
Blake Howard

Is Zamasu's universe even similar to the one Goku is from for another version of Goku to exist there?

Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

It also explains why I'm fucking confused whenever they try to explain anything like timelines, because I cannot understand what the fuck they're saying when they try to speak English.

Robert Fisher
Robert Fisher

Post yfw Toriyama chose the most boring and predictable explanation for Black

superfags will defend this

Hudson Murphy
Hudson Murphy

We will know Black's identity this saturday or on episode 61? i am confused.

Brayden Phillips
Brayden Phillips

Everyone would've said it was predictable and boring regardless since theories ranged from logical to bullshit.

Cameron Ortiz
Cameron Ortiz

Goku promised Zeno that he'd bring an even greater friend
Somehow whisks Black to Zeno
Zeno likes Black, but puts him in his place
Muffled "FILTHY NINGENS!" from future Trunks' timeline

Nolan Cooper
Nolan Cooper

Could have been evil timeline Goku
Could have been Goten
Could have been mutated heart virus
Could have been evil Gowasu
Could have been Oolong
Could have been sex change Chi-chi

nope it's a third zamsu xD

Literally ANYTHING would have been better, or at the very least been more interesting or surprising. This shit is lazy as fuck

Jose Morgan
Jose Morgan

It's Ginyu. Frieza never stopped by so Ginyu never died. Zamasu doesn't treat frogs as ningen and felt attracted to it. Zamasu did make a copy of Goku, but it was braindead, and Ginyu was the perfect thing to put in it because of his swapping powers.

Henry Walker
Henry Walker

What would have been good? Personally I would have just liked the idea that black was zamsu's god of destruction.

Charles Perez
Charles Perez

Anyone who isn't a retard knew from the very beginning that Black was Zamasu. Black said his body wasn't his, Beerus said Black has Zamasu's ki, and this shit was all stated near the start of the arc.

You have only yourself to blame.

Christopher Gray
Christopher Gray

t. butthurtgotenfaggot

Jonathan Jenkins
Jonathan Jenkins

Everyone that's not a complete retard knew Toriyama would choose the shittiest explanation possible for Black

You 100% right user. I was really stupid to except anything decent from Super. Thanks for showing me the way back to the proper path of accepting mediocrity. I owe you one my man

Christopher Martinez
Christopher Martinez

Yep

Mason Davis
Mason Davis

canon
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Z
Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
Dragon Ball Minus

not canon

Dragon Ball GT
Dragon Ball Xenoverse
Movies
Dragon Ball Evolution

fanfiction

Dragon Ball Super
Dragon Ball AF
Dragon Ball Multiverse

Liam Lewis
Liam Lewis

Zamasu hates ningens
Zamasu changes bodies with ningen becoming a ninggan
Black doesn't want to be immortal despite going against gods system of many universes and timelines
What the fuck. I don't even understand if the Immortal Zamasu is Goku or another Zamasu anymore with OP's spoiler.
Fucking timelines and multiuniverses were a mistake. There is just too much shit going around and they cant explain it right.

That would be a good what-if for a game.

It could be just a Goku clone too with memories of Zamasu in him.
The only thing we knew was that Black was scared of Beerus and that was happy there was an universe and timeline without him, so that could only mean it would be Zamasu or Gowasu. Gowasu would make sense since he was the reason that Zamasu got evil through time(showing fucking bad futures on purpose of some planets and then having terrible speeches with "nah, giving them another chance. now more tea"), and what or where the time rings were, and how the potara works.

Josiah Foster
Josiah Foster

t. superfags

Ryan Carter
Ryan Carter

This. Super is fanfiction garbage.

Jack Rodriguez
Jack Rodriguez

Toriyama writing shit like this
Nope. He would never remember the 2nd time machine for example, or who Mai was or Shuu.
Toriyama just says yes or no to some of Toei and Toyo's ideas, and Tori just give some generic ideas for characters like "use the kais, let me draw them for you".

Toriyama never thinks afar, he just says much later that he thought this or that, but it's never detailed or well thought shit. It's like fucking Buu that it was supposed to be created by Bibidi and years later it was "actually, lol, he was a being that already existed for thousand of years that gets manipulated by good or evil of mankind" or some shit like that

Colton Taylor
Colton Taylor

except
I'm glad I don't "except" much from people in here.

Jayden Watson
Jayden Watson

wah wah someone insulted my favorite fanfiction garbage.

Ryder Clark
Ryder Clark

expecting anything intelligent from Cred Forums

newfag detected

Cooper Stewart
Cooper Stewart

Actually, you were really stupid to expect anything decent from an anime aimed at little kids.

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

or who Mai was or Shuu
He did remember them though, it was his idea to bring them back in BoG.

Sebastian Cox
Sebastian Cox

It's okay for things to be shit depending on what it's target audience is

Embarrassing. How can you live with yourself knowing that you've said something this retarded?

Caleb Edwards
Caleb Edwards

Pilaf, sure. Mai and Shuu is hard to believe he remembered from the get go.

Tyler Hughes
Tyler Hughes

Out of curiosity what would have been your ideal scenario?

Caleb Cox
Caleb Cox

Technically, the Zamasu in Goku's body isn't a Zamasu anymore.

Likely, the Goku that was stuck in Zamasu's body is what was eradicated when Beerus killed Zamasu in main timeline.

RIP in piece alt-future Goku ;_;7

Bentley Murphy
Bentley Murphy

Toriyama just says yes or no to some of Toei and Toyo's ideas
Toriyama doesn't know any of Toeis idea, he only checks the manga chapter storyboard

Joseph Roberts
Joseph Roberts

I'm pretty sure he remembered Mai because she was in Dragon Ball Evolution.

Juan Gonzalez
Juan Gonzalez

dabura was still a puppet to babodi, old kai still in the sword, supreme kai and kibito still there

lots of stuff were similar, so zamasu still had to hate ningen

Christopher Cruz
Christopher Cruz

dude you are a big giant sperg and i bet you're really fat

Hudson Cox
Hudson Cox

N-NO IM NOT FAT DUDE! YOUR FAT AND HAVE SHIT TASTE! SUPERFAGS AND TORIYAMA APOLOGISTS GET OFF MY BOARD

Jace Rodriguez
Jace Rodriguez

alt future goku was in main timeline zamasu's body even though zamasu was in control and trying to kill gowasu when beerus stepped in and killed him

What the fuck are you talking about? How would that even be remotely possible? Genuinely curious about this

Caleb Mitchell
Caleb Mitchell

It would explain why black is flamboyant

Joseph Turner
Joseph Turner

How in the fuck is Evolution not fanfiction?

Joseph King
Joseph King

There are 5 time rings which should mean 5 time lines.

David Moore
David Moore

Super is not canon.

William Gutierrez
William Gutierrez

switch minds and bodies
switch minds
Goku goes to Zamasu's body, Zamasu goes to Goku's
switch bodies
Goku goes to Goku's body, Zamasu goes to Zamasu's

Michael Murphy
Michael Murphy

Super is not canon.

Jackson Brooks
Jackson Brooks

Kek, I noticed this too. I think they meant to just say that their minds went into each other's bodies.

Robert Morales
Robert Morales

These days (and perhaps always), Toriyama and Toei are not thinking about "canon" or "continuity" or "retcons". They're simply making new stories, taking whatever elements they want... and if they happen to work with something prior, great. If they don't? That's fine too.

It's getting impossible to have this conversation about canonicity. We're at a point where the base level of a canon that everyone can agree upon is basically only "the manga as written by Akira Toriyama and printed in the pages of Weekly Shonen Jump between 1984-1995". That's it. Nothing more. It started with the new kanzenban ending in 2004, and it's continuing today with Super. They don't give a flying frak, and I urge other fans to do the same. It's a fun conversation, but it's an increasingly pointless one

Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith

So what makes a Zamasu, a Zamasu? Is it his body, or is there some kind of essesnce? Is Toriyama gonna start going Plato on us, or is he just a hack?I

Dominic Johnson
Dominic Johnson

Better question is how he got to this future
This is literally spelled out for you in the episode where they go check on the time rings.
A new time ring leading to an alternate timeline was created when Future Trunks came back in the Android Saga.

Landon Howard
Landon Howard

Yes, but like I said he could have just wished for a time ring or the ability to time travel without one.

Benjamin Russell
Benjamin Russell

Well those things all happened before the timelines split. Sure, Zamasu was probably still skeptical about them but he didn't truly hate them and decide to kill them all until he met Goku.

Gavin Powell
Gavin Powell

But it is!

Ayden Long
Ayden Long

caring about some faggot
Who?

Brayden Scott
Brayden Scott

Dragon Ball Z isn't canon

Colton Nguyen
Colton Nguyen

Buu is magic and I'm not sure he even has cells/machinery to be absorbed. Besides, buu can absorb/defeat gohan, I'm pretty sure he can absorb/defeat someone even weaker like cell.

Tyler Russell
Tyler Russell

Why are you guys pretending that you had expected this? Only some of you guys thought it was Zamasu in Goku's body. Hell, some of you thought Zamasu wish Goku to be evil which is more stupid. Zamasu hate mortals, why the hell would he have a mortal sidekick.

Carson Perry
Carson Perry

Well those things all happened before the timelines split
How many must the series spell this out for you?
Future Trunks' timeline is the same timeline the Future Trunks of the Android Saga came from.
In Future Trunks' timeline Zamasu never met Goku because Goku's been dead for two decades.

Ethan Johnson
Ethan Johnson

Why are you pretending to be retarded?

Asher Miller
Asher Miller

He was going to kill them eventually whether or not he met Goku.

Jackson Thompson
Jackson Thompson

tfw fucking Cred Forums is better at multiverse than akira toriyama himself

James Sanchez
James Sanchez

Grey: Main Timeline (Dragon Ball Super)
Green 1: Trunks Timeline (where Zamasu and Black are)
Green 2: Cell's Timeline
Green 3: Unseen Timeline (needed to the whole DBZ Cell Saga to work)
Green 4: "Dragon Ball Super Alpha" Timeline

Xavier Cooper
Xavier Cooper

It is, super isn't

Benjamin Powell
Benjamin Powell

Hi, just came here to say
_____________ZAMASU_____________

Ryan Wood
Ryan Wood

there are enough retards here who take this series serious

LMAO

This whole arc has been utter garbage.

Black and Zamasu are forced and weak plot devices.

Josiah Bennett
Josiah Bennett

shit out BoG arc, RoF arc, and the tournament arc
they are all shit with RoF being the absolute bottom
release this arc which is a bit less shit than the rest but still pure trash compared to anything in Z and even shit by GT standards
desperate retards lap it up and praise it due to juxtaposition

David Smith
David Smith

Seriously what is up with Zamasu and Black and their Zero Human plan?

Are the brainretarded or something?

They cannot manage to wipe out Mai and the other left humans?

They are too stupid to realize that they can easily blow up the whole planet?

They are too retarded to get the idea that the humans are hiding underground of the city?

Parker Turner
Parker Turner

Since Black can apparently sense ki it's even more retarded.

He should do just pic related and be done with it.

Cooper Long
Cooper Long

they are obviously dragging it out to learn more about the goku body, they already unlocked the pink form.

Alexander Robinson
Alexander Robinson

they are all shit with RoF being the absolute bottom
BoG arc was a slight improvement on the movie, story wise especially. It lacked consistent art and animation for much of the arc, but it did have some beautifully drawn/animated sequences considering.
RoF was a fucking mess, had a few decent moments but other than that was awful.
Champa arc was an improvement and while most of it was disappointing (the Beerus/Champa fight in particular), there were plenty of areas in which the anime was enjoyable during that arc. The manga does the majority of that arc significantly better.
release this arc which is a bit less shit than the rest but still pure trash compared to anything in Z and even shit by GT standards
The Black arc is better than anything we've had since Freeza (so far), Cell arc is a fucking shit show and the only good thing to come from it was Future Trunks. While the Boo arc was fun, the anime butchered it completely. It still had its moments, but it's my least favourite arc from the 'Z' era.

Levi Reed
Levi Reed

First off, they want to destroy ningen, not the planet

then as zamasu said last episode, they played with trunks and now goku to get stronger

Cameron Perry
Cameron Perry

that doesn't make since it's a unique buu move

John Adams
John Adams

Gotenfags on the verge of suicide throwing a tanthrum

Who would have expected such a shocking development.

Aiden Brooks
Aiden Brooks

implying it wasn't a vocal minority

Adrian Fisher
Adrian Fisher

Dragon Ball isn't canon.

Nolan Morris
Nolan Morris

gotenfags

lmao

The butthurt is unreal

Parker Russell
Parker Russell

Enough, Black!

Mason Rivera
Mason Rivera

it doesn't matter because you fags would fucking complain either way...

Ryder Robinson
Ryder Robinson

How long until next episode?

Kayden Brown
Kayden Brown

If Black is Zamasu, then where the fuck did this other Zamasu come from?

Evan Harris
Evan Harris

be zamasu
Collect super dragon balls
Use them to wish for immortality and a roundabout way to achieve your plans which could've been achieved the first time you used the balls
Fuck me

Blake Hughes
Blake Hughes

the nightmares over black, die!

Bentley Butler
Bentley Butler

we know there is one silver time ring and four green ones. So. four alternate timelines to get Zamasu from

Evan Gray
Evan Gray

I bet Zero Human plan is DB's Third Impact, they want to get rid of all ningens in one instance.

Nolan Sanchez
Nolan Sanchez

Blackasu is perfect.

Christopher Edwards
Christopher Edwards

Ginefag yes

Nathan Edwards
Nathan Edwards

not THE ginefag but i have a decent collection of pics

Luke Ramirez
Luke Ramirez

that walk

Owen Flores
Owen Flores

I still wanna know whether or not Black is U10's God of Destruction.

Eli Williams
Eli Williams

Since you are too stupid to figure this out, I'll let you in on a secret: they think this is a game, they're dragging it out on purpose, and they want to keep the planet alive, just not humans. Did you notice Zamasu and Goku Black relaxing in a beautiful forest? Did you notice that the forest looks nice while the cities are destroyed?

Henry Rodriguez
Henry Rodriguez

Well, Gowasu is dead so so is U10's God of Destruction, so in the sense that Zamasu is the Kaioshin, Black is the Hakaioshin.

Adam Butler
Adam Butler

Sexy as fuk

Gavin Moore
Gavin Moore

I'm not gay, but damn...

James Stewart
James Stewart

What if Zamasu and Zamasu fuse?

Nathaniel Perry
Nathaniel Perry

What's really confusing is that this version of Goku is able to infinitely abuse the neardeath boost, but Goku and Vegeta can no longer do it because they supposedly ran out of boosts? What gives?

Christopher White
Christopher White

Fucking called that shit.

Brody Cruz
Brody Cruz

We already know OP. His name's Tyrone.

Jack Sanders
Jack Sanders

That is what I was saying. You can't compare them becayse the events were so different. In the main timeline it didn't happen until he mat Goku. But in Trunks' timeline he never met Goku.

Xavier Nguyen
Xavier Nguyen

Heartbreaking to see how stupid Dragon Ball fans are. I don't know which comments are worse, the ones here or the ones on reddit

Grayson Gonzalez
Grayson Gonzalez

admitting you browse the subreddit for Dragon Ball
Kanzenshuu is objectively superior.

Jaxon Rogers
Jaxon Rogers

he browses reddit
But yes, most of Dragon Ball fans are stupid, this shouldn't be surprising.

Juan Cruz
Juan Cruz

All of these """theories""" are fucking retarded. Kill yourself you Mexican faggot.

Colton Price
Colton Price

If the super dragon balls can grant any wish, why did he wish for immortality intstead of wishing away all humans?

Nolan Garcia
Nolan Garcia

Why is Trunks' hair blue?

Adrian Stewart
Adrian Stewart

How does he know all of Goku's abilities then? Ginyu did the same thing and couldn't figure out any of Goku's moves

Jonathan Turner
Jonathan Turner

on the very beginning of dragonball it was also said that those could grand any wish, but then later on they found out they ha dlimitations because they were bound to their creators power

we dont know if the super dragonballs have a limit of power

Carson James
Carson James

Gallactik Gun

Gavin Young
Gavin Young

Why didn't Trunks' hair match the color of either of his parents beforehand?

Ryder Powell
Ryder Powell

He became Goku. Got his memories too.

Anthony Robinson
Anthony Robinson

He got most of the genes from Dr. Briefs

Kevin Adams
Kevin Adams

Black is not zamasu

They don't even act the same way

Colton Miller
Colton Miller

Bulma got Dr.Briefs' hair color.

Her mom is blonde

Levi King
Levi King

So wait does that mean there's a Zamasu running around with Goku's mind in his body?

Also not really surprised by this.

Kevin Nelson
Kevin Nelson

That's because Black isn't a deity.
Whilst in Goku's body he's subjected to most of Goku's instincts and saiyan nature.

Basically Black is mortal, and I fully hope that he gives up on Zamasu by the end of the series when he realises that either A) he will die with the genocide of mortals or B) realises he won't have a challenge anymore.

Then he can turn up in the multiversal tournament.

Adrian Gomez
Adrian Gomez

This time travel shit makes no sense. NO SENSE.
Everything's okay, I destroyed Zamasu
Well, that clearly can't be right. Zamasu fucked shit up in the future despite never having met Goku. Nothing going on in the main timeline affected the Trunks' timeline in the past. Why would this now change? The two Zamasu's are different people.

Liam Reed
Liam Reed

Goku's body effecting this Zamasu's urge for battle since saiyans always have a battle boner.

Ryan Brooks
Ryan Brooks

Beerus says himself that multiverse theory is "human logic" and the fact that he deleted Zamasu from existence as a god of destruction would have a far larger impact across timelines instead of say a mortal blasting his face off in the present.

Of course he's wrong but Beerus is an arrogant god. He has no reason to believe that his destruction whatever didn't work across time barriers.

Although Zamasu is likely immune due to his immortality through the super dragon balls.

It would've been cool if he HAD died in the future as a result but Black was left as a contingency in case a GoD caught up with them.

Jayden Scott
Jayden Scott

So Black is a fighting autist too?

William Perry
William Perry

Yup side effect for using Goku's body.

Christopher Hernandez
Christopher Hernandez

It's not Zamasu guys!
JK it actually is

Sa-fucking-suga Japan.

Mason Reyes
Mason Reyes

that line makes much more sense now

Bentley Anderson
Bentley Anderson

Filename

Elijah Gray
Elijah Gray

based Trunks number 1
as it should be

Luke Peterson
Luke Peterson

A better question would be what Goten is doing there.

Joseph Gonzalez
Joseph Gonzalez

Why are you faggots assuming it's a zenkai boost? It's not, pain just makes Black fight more aggressively.

Oliver Turner
Oliver Turner

Fusion fodder, user.

Kayden Morris
Kayden Morris

Why does Zamasu being in Goku's body make him a much more likeable character?

Aiden Collins
Aiden Collins

That Cell theory goes out of the window because Cell specifically said two things to Piccolo/Kuririn:
1) that Trunks killed Freeza in his timeline. Both manga and anime show this, so it's not filler;
2) that Goku is dead in Cell's timeline;

2 doesn't make sense because if Trunks killed Freeza, Goku would still be alive because Trunks gave him the Heart Medicine. And 1 doesn't make sense because in every timeline except Future Trunks', it was Goku that defeated Freeza.

The only way it makes sense is that Trunks defeated Freeza and quickly left for the future, never even meeting Goku. But that would beg the question: how did he destroy the Androids then? Because to get the blueprints, he would need to know the Z Warriors.

Leo Turner
Leo Turner

I haven't watched Super since the Kaioken comeback. Is the Trunks arc worth watching?

What's the arc after this?

Landon Gonzalez
Landon Gonzalez

Is the Trunks arc worth watching?

Definitely. Best arc in DBS by far

What's the arc after this?

We don't know

Nathan Hernandez
Nathan Hernandez

where he belongs

Nathan Harris
Nathan Harris

this videl..

darn it gohan.

Josiah Lewis
Josiah Lewis

Where'd you get this from

Thomas Ross
Thomas Ross

kanzenshuu.com/2016/09/30/dragon-ball-xenoverse-2-collectors-edition-to-include-bonus-toyotaro-manga/

Jaxson Gomez
Jaxson Gomez

this guy looks goofy as fuck

Eli Edwards
Eli Edwards

Judging from the early cutscenes, he's supposed to look goofy because he's new at the job

Lincoln Fisher
Lincoln Fisher

tfw stuck in a ningen body

couldn't find the lewdface

Parker Cooper
Parker Cooper

Zamasu a HYPOCRITE!

Henry Thomas
Henry Thomas

blood is bad, let's censor it
guns are ok

Dominic Butler
Dominic Butler

why did Gohan have to ruin her?

Adrian Garcia
Adrian Garcia

just gave a standing ovation after reading this post

David Jenkins
David Jenkins

reminds me of pic related

Isaiah Myers
Isaiah Myers

this shit was great.

always gave me a chuckle.

Camden Stewart
Camden Stewart

guns r so kawaii and cute if we give them to gurls x3

I don't get nips

Jonathan Cruz
Jonathan Cruz

i face palmed while seeing this in the first time

Brayden Evans
Brayden Evans

why did Gohan have to ruin her?
Gohan liked short-haired girls.

Luis Robinson
Luis Robinson

I wish the anime kept the manga version of that scene.

Luke Hughes
Luke Hughes

Wait. I don't understand.

If this is the cast then why was Zamasu still Zamasu? If they switched bodies than Goku should be in Zamasu's.

Adrian Bennett
Adrian Bennett

PROMOTIONS

Jayden Hill
Jayden Hill

Gohan is a faggot.

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

Black is from another dimension.

Zamasu stole Goku's body and went to Future Trunks' timeline and there he met Zamasu.

Nicholas Gray
Nicholas Gray

So what happened to the Goku of that dimension?

Will this be a plot point?

Jason Parker
Jason Parker

jesus christ

Xavier Rogers
Xavier Rogers

Got nabbed after Gine gave birth

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

No.

Kayden Lewis
Kayden Lewis

I. What's with that blue rectangle on Smoker?

Logan Clark
Logan Clark

ITT what Videl had coming to her.

Leo Hughes
Leo Hughes

Oh Dear God, the time travel, it hurts

Carson Davis
Carson Davis

whos gonna make the tea now

Carter Morales
Carter Morales

if only beerus just killed him instead of deleting him

Oliver Bailey
Oliver Bailey

DAMN YOU KANG

Luis Moore
Luis Moore

Does anyone have the SS Grade 3 Trunks comparison?

Noah Flores
Noah Flores

i want her to mommy me

Hunter Gomez
Hunter Gomez

No, 18 will mommy you.

Jordan Harris
Jordan Harris

He's actually getting more powerful during the fights, though. Faggot.

Blake Butler
Blake Butler

Hypothetically, since there's no hostages like with Buu, if Goku and Vegeta fused into Vegito, how quickly would he dispatch Black/Zamasu? Or would he fuck around with them?

Adrian Morales
Adrian Morales

youtube.com/watch?v=zYMzZjKjQUg
Annoying faggot. It's like watching one of you.

Angel Diaz
Angel Diaz

Probably pretty quickly. The only reason he messed around with Buu was to free the gang.

Isaiah Brooks
Isaiah Brooks

I would say a SSB could defeat Black but Zamasu is a different story since he is immortal and all attacks don't do shit to him. And anyways, what's stopping Zamasu and Black from fusing like vegito can viva kai earrings? need to call zeno for this one m8

Cameron Sanchez
Cameron Sanchez

I just wanna see Chi Chi make that ass clap before the series ends

Adam Bailey
Adam Bailey

I would say that one is a hard fight. Even Vegito would have a hard time in SS3 dealing with those 2, people tend to forget SSB levels of bullshit is just out of this world, we cant even imagine the measurement of their powers.
Knockout would solve the problem for Zamasu.

Jose Williams
Jose Williams

and all the husbands just let it happen too. is roshi the most alpha person in the db universe?

Ian Jones
Ian Jones

Checked. Though he utterly outclassed Buuhan as a SSJ it's crazy how strong he could be now given how strong Goku and Vegeta are.

Easton Robinson
Easton Robinson

They let it happen because they know there's no reason to bother doing anything.

Their wives can all take care of themselves.

Thomas Lopez
Thomas Lopez

she needs to get spit roasted so bad

super won't live up to its name without this

Jeremiah Hernandez
Jeremiah Hernandez

This is exactly why keeping plot points secret for a long time and building hype for the reveal is a terrible idea. The only possible outcomes are that it's insane to the point of being completely stupid or that it's boring and predictable compared to the bullshit people came up with in the meantime.

Adrian Cooper
Adrian Cooper

Roshi molests a woman that could kill him with just a finger
he's got some balls

Charles Baker
Charles Baker

How many Zamasu's are out there?

Isaac Torres
Isaac Torres

Enough to satisfy his tea craving

Liam Robinson
Liam Robinson

Never realized Gohan had her complexion.

Aaron Edwards
Aaron Edwards

arc ends in a legion of immortal zamasus serving gowasu tea
the zamasu and gowasu godtube show when

Aiden Gomez
Aiden Gomez

half chinese. hopefully he took after the saiyan half in the cock department

Colton Cruz
Colton Cruz

and i say that because i want videl to be getting her feisty ass wrecked on the daily

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

Chichi used to be so cute.

Alexander Allen
Alexander Allen

needs load

James Lopez
James Lopez

He did

Jaxon Wright
Jaxon Wright

Chichi used to be so cute.
she still is... when she is sleeping

Adam Morgan
Adam Morgan

fuck yeah

Asher Brown
Asher Brown

damn, looks like she could fit balls and dick in her mouth at the same time

Jaxson Smith
Jaxson Smith

that pissed me off even when I was a kid

Liam Mitchell
Liam Mitchell

i really like this pic

Joshua Young
Joshua Young

YOU'RE FINISHED!! I'VE PUT ALL MY ENERGY INTO THIS NEXT BLAST!!

FINAL... SHINE... ATTAAACK!!!!!!!

Anthony Howard
Anthony Howard

how can anyone like her. by far the most annoying character and it's even tuned up in super.

Anthony Ward
Anthony Ward

That doesn't mean it's a Zenkai. That's not even what a Zenkai does. Faggot.

Josiah Wright
Josiah Wright

Your explanation doesn't work either. It's not like Goku is experiencing the same kind of thing, as it's pretty much the same body from possibly a different timeline.

Henry Gray
Henry Gray

I didn't provide an explanation. I just explained why it being a Zenkai makes no sense.

Charles Fisher
Charles Fisher

Because Saiyan hair genes are weak. The only reason why Gohan, Goten, and Pan have black hair is because their mom has them.

James Williams
James Williams

I wonder why Goku's medium tan isn't in the anime?

Robert Lewis
Robert Lewis

Japs didn't like it, user.

Benjamin Garcia
Benjamin Garcia

She's significantly better in the manga, there's no contest.

Cameron Bennett
Cameron Bennett

It's always disappointing when identities are about to be revealed except for something like Aizen. But this shit is so boring and retarded that there is no point to continue.

Asher James
Asher James

have a laff

Oliver Cruz
Oliver Cruz

Truth has been spoken here

Lucas Williams
Lucas Williams

Goten has his place assured for being a kid on a kids-aimed franchise. Gohan is like a kid actor that got old

Gabriel Rodriguez
Gabriel Rodriguez

SS4 is so lewd

Levi Hernandez
Levi Hernandez

Goten will never be more than a novelty character. The reason Gohan was good as an MC was because he didn't enjoy fighting for the sake of it. That was key to his character. Goten is merely a mini Goku. Why would they replace the most iconic self-insert shonen MC for a redundant kid no one's invested in? He's good for a joke and nothing more.

Joshua Nelson
Joshua Nelson

Third wheel...

Tyler Lee
Tyler Lee

Not going to lie, the lollipop was at least clever and believable. Everything else can go fuck themselves with.

Thomas Myers
Thomas Myers

Jesus that's thicc

Adrian Jones
Adrian Jones

Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
Canon

Elijah Rogers
Elijah Rogers

ass meat on fleek

Nathaniel Moore
Nathaniel Moore

I am now picturing Teen Gotenks having a "threesome" with Mai, what is wrong with me?

Isaac Foster
Isaac Foster

threesome

Hunter Martin
Hunter Martin

i want this to happen so bad. her chu and pilaf are most likely dead.

Owen Clark
Owen Clark

Kid Trunks and Future Trunks are too different personality-wise

Henry Wilson
Henry Wilson

They lived completely different lives, so that's a given.

Jeremiah Murphy
Jeremiah Murphy

Damn right

Nathan Adams
Nathan Adams

Same. It will probably happen after the current arc ends.

Easton Morgan
Easton Morgan

So you aren't going to even mention the fact Mai is using a shotgun in a setting where guns are literally useless(unless they are bullshit laser beams)?

Isaac Edwards
Isaac Edwards

zamasu is using goku's body
to defeat him all you need is a laser
omg it's soo simple

Benjamin Johnson
Benjamin Johnson

if you're still here there you go.

Oliver Cooper
Oliver Cooper

I'd be surprised if Beerus stands a chance against SSB Vegito. The gap between Goku, Vegeta & Buuhan was massive yet Vegito dominated.

Juan Campbell
Juan Campbell

all you need is to have a Golden Frieza level villain weaken him, get defeated & make him think he's won while still having enough Ki to cover up other Ki signatures to lower his defences

Nolan Carter
Nolan Carter

toonami broadcast banner

Zachary Wright
Zachary Wright

toriyama a shit

Oliver Fisher
Oliver Fisher

So, how many Zamasu's are there?

1. The present Zamasu that Beerus just HAKAI'd
2. Future Zamasu
3. Black

Shouldn't there be another one?

Isaac Gutierrez
Isaac Gutierrez

DBS fanfiction
DBZ canon

Sebastian Morales
Sebastian Morales

canon (only manga)
Jaco the Galactic Patrolman
Dragon Ball
Dragon Ball Super

not canon (anime)
Dragon Ball
DB movies
Dragon Ball Z
DBZ movies
Dragon Ball GT
Dragon Ball Evolution

Henry Cox
Henry Cox

anime cannon
Dragonball (or path to power)
Kai
yo son goku
BoG RoF then super
or
Just super

Evan Carter
Evan Carter

what is wrong with me?

Nothing

Jaxon Barnes
Jaxon Barnes

there must be Something

David Campbell
David Campbell

(or path to power)
Except Path to Power changed A LOT and is not canon in the slightest.

Anime canon is:
Dragon Ball RF (Reduced Filler)
Kai
Yo Son Goku
Battle of Gods
Resurrection of F
Super (ignoring the BoG and RoF retelling parts)

Owen Roberts
Owen Roberts

Why threesome when they can fuse?

William Green
William Green

maybe she wants to get spit roasted?

Robert Bennett
Robert Bennett

canon
people that know what's canon, but enjoy reading/watching what they want
not canon
people that obsess over canon and it hurts their enjoyment of it
fanfiction
people that obsess over canon and have nothing to do with what's not explicitly canon
people that don't know what canon even is
eternally canon
dragon ball evolution

Ayden Wright
Ayden Wright

I'm going to draw this now

Robert Howard
Robert Howard

delete

Hudson Richardson
Hudson Richardson

thanks mate

Eli Lopez
Eli Lopez

Hates ningen
Switches bodies with one

Brandon Nguyen
Brandon Nguyen

Tsundere

Gabriel Jenkins
Gabriel Jenkins

inb4 Gohan is filler

Caleb Rogers
Caleb Rogers

tfw Cred Forums's DNS gonna get Hakai'd in 3 hours

Carter Johnson
Carter Johnson

Gohan is filler.

Thomas Fisher
Thomas Fisher

Canon is DragonBall, Z, and GT until recently. Then Super.

Non canon is GT and every other movies.

Oliver Roberts
Oliver Roberts

I'm confused. Bulma was only in the RoF movie because she said she wanted to see Frieza since she never saw how he looked.

Wasn't she there when Mecha Frieza appeared though?

Christian Rodriguez
Christian Rodriguez

Chapter 331 page 7 you see that the Z fighters only recognized that Trunks killed everyone through sensing their Ki, where Bulma comments on what's going on cluelessly.

Mason Diaz
Mason Diaz

No, she never actually saw him, in the anime anyways don't know about the manga. The Mecha Frieza fight happened down the cliff and she couldn't see and I think by the time they moved in closer Frieza was already killed.

Dylan Kelly
Dylan Kelly

Nobody ever sees Mecha Freeza outside of Trunks since they're all walking there slowly to mask their Ki.
Everyone ends up the Ki of Freeza being destroyed by the Ki that feels like SSJ Goku but Bulma can't even feel that and is just clueless.

tl;dr only Trunks saw Mecha Freeza

Elijah Jackson
Elijah Jackson

Trunks killed frieza quickly with no effort before they got there.

Nicholas Jones
Nicholas Jones

WHO IS HE????

Zachary Moore
Zachary Moore

Which DBZ game is the best fighting against the computer.

Wyatt Reed
Wyatt Reed

would like that too

present pilaf and shu were so happy when they thought getting rid of zamasu would prevent their future selves from dying. Of course. That's not happening

Cameron Foster
Cameron Foster

Infinite World, Tenkaichi 3 and Raging Blast 2.

If you mean story mode, then Budokai 3, Tenkaichi 2 and Raging Blast 1

Eli Cox
Eli Cox

Just exhibition or versus. Really disappointing Xenoverse had easy and short 1v1 against the a.i

Zachary Morales
Zachary Morales

Then you want the options I listed first.

Jace Taylor
Jace Taylor

Future Goten

Blake Hernandez
Blake Hernandez

might as well post it all. already reached bump limit anyway

Eli Ward
Eli Ward

Thanks user

Adam Gonzalez
Adam Gonzalez

when pilaf is more or less plays her dad here

not done yet

Jose Price
Jose Price

last one of the story.
might be posted out of order though

Adam Gomez
Adam Gomez

and a seperate pic by this artist

Samuel Rogers
Samuel Rogers

Please don't remind me.

Brody Gutierrez
Brody Gutierrez

if old kai survived... Mai would have to fill in for Bulma in F Trunks's time

Henry Nguyen
Henry Nguyen

Super Buu was strong enough to rip a hole in the spacetime dimension in Z, so isnt every character in Super capable of doing the same? Why bother with time travel at all?

Henry Ramirez
Henry Ramirez

Shhhh

Owen Roberts
Owen Roberts

poor old tea sipper man

Levi Parker
Levi Parker

Imagine how he will feel now that Zamasu is dead

Wakes up in his bed
Screams "ZAMASU" so he can bring his 2:00 am tea, but is only met with silence
"ZAMASU!"
"ZAMASU!"
"ZAMAAAAAAASU!"

Gowasu... Gowasu had a hard life...