THERE IS NO SALVATION OUTSIDE THE TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC FAITH ! ! !

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Yes, that is correct, we reject your jewish god of war.

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That's demonstrably false though, according to scripture you should be able to do miracles in the name of jesus, try doing one.

/thread

What codex do you follow? Or what works in general, I suppose you follow one codex specifically

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I'm Sethian.

youtube.com/watch?v=4bRR-Wykh1o

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So what defines Sethianism? Do you believe Seth literally put a book on top of a mountain which was found 4000 years later?

No, I believe for instance the "reality of the rulers" because I've experienced the gnostic mythos irl.

One day I saw sophia while meditating surrounded by white wolves, that same night I experienced union with God.

I've reached gnosis my dude, sethianism is just the one closer explanation to the rest of stuff I have experienced.

All these people that are batshit mad they can't have any power over whats going on in their lives because they deny Christ.

Damn. The only effect I got from meditation was seeing literal fucking demons. God bless. Why exactly Sethianism? I personally picked the codex two because of the gospels of Thomas and Philip, but they are not together with distinctively Sethian works

>MUH GNOSIS
>I WANNA ESCAPE THE LOOP THIS TIME
>I KNOW THE WAY, DON'T FOLLOW THE LIGHT, WHY WON'T ANYONE LISTEN?!
>FUCK THE DEMIURGE, I REMEMBER PAST LIVES, WAAAAH
>I HATE THE DUALISTIC NATURE OF THE UNIVERSE
I wonder whether these guys were as annoying and edgy back in medieval times, huh.

You’re probably no fedora but you act that way
Chill out, followers of Christ won’t be tortured like the blasphemers

>Why exactly Sethianism?
I'm not really dogmatic user, but I read mostly sethian works.

I've reached gnosis.

Grouping the Gnostics into sethians etc is a new invention afaik so ok
Just tell me what you like in the works you read and what you read the most

Well he did enter the thread only to shit on Christianity and the believers in his very first post, so I don't know what to tell you. You reap what you sow. You never, ever get angry when people start mocking your religion/belief system/philosophy? I'm only a human being user.

You can get the same type of a feeling that you've received through meditation etc. by inviting in the Holy Spirit. What makes you think that your truth is somehow any truer or better than mine?

I've said already, my favourite work is the reality of the rulers/hypostasis of the archons.

No, you can't, you don't understand, the moment that you unite with God you realize he is above the god of the bible.

Reminder that your wretched prayers are only heard by God through the divine Intercession of the Virgin Mary.

Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, hail, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve: to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this vale of tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus, O merciful, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary! Amen.

>MUH ENLIGHTENMENT
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
What makes you think I'm not united with God? What makes you think he's not the God of the Bible? You're not the first person to study gnosticism, you do realise that, right?

>You're not the first person to study gnosticism, you do realise that, right?
I didn't arrive at gnosticism through study, but through personal experience with God.

My personal experience with God has led me to entirely different answers than the ones you've received. Once again, what makes you so sure that you're in the right and I'm simply "sheeple"?

The fact that I've also had personal experiences with the god of the bible, the pagan gods and the god of gnosticism has made me understand that gnosticism was true.

Yes there is, it's called the Orthodox Church.

Cue fallacious picture of how the Orthodox Church has struggled throughout history with a bunch of popes and cardinals laughing

>catholicucks

Really now? Well then, all the power to you, I'll go back to being a soulless cog in the simulation now, you keep shining.

inside*

Verses proving salvation to anyone that believes and not of works.
youtu.be/V8xZTVKx0Dc

John
1:12
3:15-16/18/36
4:14(John 6:35)
5:24
6:28-29/35/38-40/44-45/47
7:38-39
8:24
10:27-29
11:25-27/40
12:46
14:1-3
16:27
20:31

Matthew
5:19
7:21-23(John 6:38-40)
8:10-13
12:37
21:31-32

Mark
1:15
2:5
10:24-25
16:16

Luke
3:3(Acts 19:4)
5:20
7:50
8:12
18:10-14/40-42
23:40-43

Acts
2:21
10:43
11:16-17
13:38-39/48
15:7-9
16:30-31
19:4(Luke 3:3)
26:18

Romans
1:16-17
3:20/22/24-28/30
4:2-14/16/24
5:1/15-18
6:23
8:24
9:30-33
10:3-4/9-10/13
11:6

1 Corinthians
1:14/17
3:14-15
15:1-2

2 Corinthians
4:13-14

user, I'm not pulling your leg, I've gone through hell to get to where I am, and I really care, life is too valuable to throw it against a petty jewish god for the sake of tradition.

1 Thessalonians
4:14

2 Thessalonians
1:10
2:12

Ephesians
1:13-14
2:8-9
4:7

Galatians
2:16/21
3:6-11/14/21-22/24/26
5:3-6

Philippians
3:3/9

Titus
3:5

1 Timothy
1:16

2 Timothy
1:9
3:15

Hebrews
4:3
10:38-39
11:7

1 Peter
1:3-5/8-9
2:6
3:21(Colossians 2:12)

1 John
4:2-3/15
5:1/4-5/10-11/13

Revelation
2:11/26
3:5/20-21
21:7/27

This kills the prot

Wow, the Bible BTFO

Gospel of James

You're not a Catholic.

>t. Catholic going to mass right now

Okay

lol catholics are the biggest cucks and are the root problem of why christianity failed the west

>liberal protestantism failed the west

Fixed that for ya, heretic.

You need a strong faith to do miracles. Saints did plenty of miracles throughout the ages.

c*Tholics are more liberal than proddies though nigger

You're being fooled by the demiurge.

oy vey i better convert so the real messiah come

There is no salvation without destruction, no hope on this side of death.

>Say that his is Catholic
>Don't know what fucking Petrine Cross is
sedememers are fucking stupid

The Dimond brothers make good points in these videos, but don't forget that they are sedevacantists, and thus are heretics.

christkinglaw.com/uploads/9/5/6/8/9568822/feature_-_salzas_rebuttal_of_dimond_on_sedevacantism_2.pdf

Are you serious? Enough with this faggot Eli. What about all the other countless Jews that spit on Christianity saying how dreadful it is for them and how it is the bane of their existence?

What was hell like?

1. Worship Yahweh through jesus: Family hits almost bankruptcy and I get raped by spirits.
2. Worship krishna: Lots of spirits attacking me, not allowing me to even sleep.
Both religions started fine, as if I was welcome into them.

Never again, it all calmed down the moment I became a gnostic, plus I reached gnosis.

I don't believe people get attacked by spirits. I think it's what was quoted as "the seed of sabaoth". That's basically what is known as an alien implant. I have one in my left leg I think and I had an experience that I thought at the time was a spiritual attack. My experience was like I was about to have a heart attack from severe anxiety. I knew shit about beings from hinduism, buddhism, christianity, islam and other shit from that experience. I feel like they were trying to make me have a near death experience but it didn't work more or less. It stopped for me when I asked the Earth to help me because I had noone or nothing else to turn to. I believe in the Earth and this Galaxy and I think this is where I come from. I don't understand any of that other shit and those beings obviously hate me.

Oh, btw, I think krishna is the same story as christ. Basically just same tricksters but the stories are formatted a little differently.

It is similar and demiurge worship

I never understood this. There is "No other gods before me" in Ten Commandments. Is worshipping Virgin Mary is ok?

Papists would say they are venerating her, not worshiping Mary.

But in reality they are worshiping Mary and Christ is our only intercessor. At this point though all the churches have been corrupted. Luckily, as Saint Chrysostom said, the true faith is persevered any time two or three true believers gather together. Let mainline Protestantism, government controlled Orthodox Sects and Roman Catholicism die, true orthodoxy will survive in house churches and small gatherings.

I'm a member of a conservative Anglican church which broke with the CofE, but I'm not very happy about it. OH well we live in dark times.

>It's almost like Jews aren't even a hive mind

Heretics. How dare you continually post this vile, pagan fuckery here.
How dare you insinuate that your worship of saints and Mary lead to salvation. The only salvation, the only one to be venerated, is though and is Jesus Christ alone.

Turn back from your misleading ways before you face the consequences of your evil ways. Woe be on the good men and women who cast their prays towards the Whore of Babylon herself, the Catholic Church!

Jesus is the only way to salvation, the only way. Wow be on you, you profiteers and schemers who prey upon the weak and the poor. Woe be on those who think they can sell tickets to grieving families out of hell. Woe be on you who thinks Mary is divine and as worthy as Jesus Himself- that is the demon Ishtar veiled as the virgin mother.

Your own pope calls Jesus a weak man and says that he failed upon the cross. Your own Pope states that Islam is a religion of peace- when the very word Islam means slavery!
Your very own Pope changed the words of the Lord’s Prayer.
He is a false prophet, the Whore is his master.

Turn back before you sully more with your pagan rituals.
Throw away your beads and your sorcery. Stop praying to saints- lowly lesser gods.

When Jesus broke the bread at the last supper, he was recalling the covenant between a bridegroom and his wife. He is the bridegroom and the church are his people.
Your false religion claims to devour the body of Christ during communion.
Communion is meant to be a wedding vow from the bride to her groom.
Your religion turns it into an abomination of canibalism and pagan rites. Drinking blood and eating the flesh of the living Lord.

Stop trying to turn people.
Repent.
Read through the Bible and realize you have been warned. There is great punishment ahead for those who try to turn away Christ’s flock.

It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble. Luke 17:2

Begone, Whore of Babylon.

>Catholic: Mary, please pray for me.
>Prot Thot: OMG WHY ARE YOU WORSHIPPING HER!!!!!11!!1!!!!one!1

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2 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments.

youtube.com/watch?v=Iu4fjSTRgRI

Are Catholics Christians?

The Bible tells us to expose error
(Ephesians 5:11, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.").
And to expose error we must make righteous judgments. Christians must judge in order to: 1. Try the spirits to see if they are from God, for many false prophets are in the world. (1 John 4:1). 2. Mark & avoid false teachers, slaves of their own bellies, deceiving many with their smooth & flattering speech (Romans 16:17-18). 3. Rebuke false teachers, rebellious men, & deceivers who subvert whole families with their false doctrine. (Titus 1:9-16) 4. Have no fellowship with immoral, impure, or covetous men. (Ephesians 5:5-7) 5. Receive not deceivers who do not abide in the teaching of Christ into our homes, nor giving them any greeting. (2 John 7-11) 6. Be wary of those who preach another gospel. (2 Corinthians 11:4, Galatians 1:6-9)
Thus, shouldn't true Christians, following the Biblical standards laid down, judge & expose the sins of false teachers, prophets & immoral brothers in the church; all those who would pollute the truth with perverted doctrines or watered-down teachings which tickle the ear? (2 Timothy 4:2-5, "preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort, with [a]great patience and instruction. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4 and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5 But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.").

I started to have panick attacks at night since i became a christian , Should i abandon christianity ? or should i figure out why i get attacked , i am opting for option 2 because demons do not want me to be christian , hence bad luck and spirutual attack

>Never again, it all calmed down the moment I became a gnostic, plus I reached gnosis.

offcourse it calmed down no need to attack anymore you are not following christ

Lol so many proddy shills, why are they always so butthurt
Maybe basing your faith on "protest" makes you the antifa of Christianty

Roman Catholicism is the most powerful, widespread and subtle of all un-Biblical religious movements. It claims to be the only "true" church, and everything outside of it is labelled false and branded as heresy. All Protestants are "heretics" according to Romanism

In reality the Roman Catholic hierarchy is not a church at all, but a gigantic religious, political organization. Because the average Protestant and multitudes of true believers are almost completely ignorant of the facts about Roman Catholicism, it is necessary to expose at the outset some of the most blatant of these. First it must be recognized that the Church of Rome has unscripturally appropriated the name "Catholic" (signifying 'worldwide') to mean only its own church. The true name for the miscalled Catholic Church should be the Roman Church. In the past it was called the Roman Catholic Church. Today, however, particularly in the USA, but also in some other non-Roman-Catholic lands, the name "Roman" has been cunningly dropped and it wishes to be known only as the Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic Church claims to be the one true Church, dating back to the beginning, organized by Jesus Christ Himself, with the disciple Peter as the first Pope and Vicar of Christ of earth.

"A bloo bloo they use a name I don't like"
Also the World Series isn't actually for the entire world

youtu.be/mkuRqZ-SssI

A PRODDY SHILL?!?

You mean a follower of Christ, unlike you heretics who will burn in hell for your blasphemies.

strawman

while the true "Catholic" Church (the Body of Christ scattered across the earth) was born in eternity in the Mind of God (Ephesians 1:1-11), the Roman Catholic Church was not organized until about 313 AD with the advent of the Roman emperor Constantine. There was a local fellowship of true Christians located in and around Rome at the time but they had no more power than any other local congregation of believers found anywhere else in the world (think of the seven churches mentioned in Revelation chapters 1-3).This was the beginning of the union of Church and State. Constantine, however, did not oppose the old pagan worship of Rome; rather, he superimposed Christianity upon these pagan religions, adopting elements in both; and thus, by allowing the pagans to continue their heathen customs, he made it easy for them to adopt Christianity. The result was the Roman Catholic Church, which is a mixture of about one-third Christianity, one-third Judaism, and one-third paganism. The Roman Catholic Church thus pretends to accept most of the cardinal doctrines of Christendom, plus the holy days and priesthood copied from Judaism, and the superstitions and fetishes of paganism with its charms such as holy water, candles, and images. This only makes sense because Constantine was more of a politician than a real Christian.

Factman
Crying about names lol pussy brainlet

. In fact Constantine did not even bother to get baptized until he was on his deathbed and that by the Arian heretic Eusebius of Nicomedia. Eusebius was a bishop of Berytus (modern-day Beirut) in Phoenicia, then of the See of Nicomedia, where the imperial court resided, and finally of Constantinople from 338 up to his death in 441. If Constantine would have really understood Biblical Christianity he would not have allowed heretics like Eusebius and others to flourish throughout his empire.Question: "What is Arianism?" Answer: Arianism is named for Arius, a teacher in the early 4th century A.D. One of the earliest and probably the most important item of debate among early Christians was the subject of Christ’s deity. Was Jesus truly God in the flesh or was Jesus a created being? Was Jesus God or just like God? Arius held that Jesus was created by God as the first act of creation, that Jesus was the crowning glory of all creation. Arianism, then, is the view that Jesus was a created being with divine attributes, but was not divine in and of Himself.

>Embracing the culture of Constantine and Rome is bad for the West, go- uh, guys

Calling people "pussy brainlet"
How very "Christian" of you...

Shills the Catholic thread, cries about being rebuked
Leaf'd

The most dangerous aspect of Catholic Church doctrine is that it appears to be based on the great, indispensable truths of God’s revelation.3 In reality, however, the telling fact is that Catholic doctrine denies essential, biblical doctrines by that which it adds on to biblical truths. For example, while Catholic doctrine affirms the worship of the three distinct Persons of the Trinity, it adds divine adoration for the Virgin Mary by addressing her in prayer as "the All Holy One". The exact words of the official statement are, "By asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the ‘Mother of Mercy,’ the All Holy One".4 The Catholic Church also demands that worship, which according to Scripture is due exclusively to the one true God in three persons, is also to be given to the 1 The anathemas or curses against Evangelicals as heretics still remain in Roman Catholic law because the Council of Trent (1545 – 1563) has never been revoked. Since the demise of the Holy Roman Empire, the Papacy has had no military and civil power by which to enforce these anathemas as it had during the 605 years of the Inquisition. Thus the Papacy has recently adopted "ecumenism, "dialogue," and promoting "social justice" as ways and means of drawing Evangelical Christians into its fold.

>Was Jesus truly God in the flesh or was Jesus a created being? Was Jesus God or just like God? Arius held that Jesus was created by God as the first act of creation, that Jesus was the crowning glory of all creation. Arianism, then, is the view that Jesus was a created being with divine attributes, but was not divine in and of Himself.

How is this heresy ? you cannot prove the divinity of christ through the bible.

>For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Yup, it's interesting to look at how the Roman Catholic Church was first organized.

Before Constantine called the first ecumenical council, Christianity was organized on the basis of local church congregation, as the Bible teaches.

In Rome, which was the big celebrity city of the day, celebrity pastors were literally murdering each other over doctrine, so Constantine was forced to call an ecumenical council (completely unscriptural) to stop the murderings and wars between heretical bishops and pastors.

So Constantine invited all of the celebrity preachers and heretics to come together and compromise on doctrine. That's when the Roman Catholic Church was first invented. But because the Roman Empire was so large and controlled so many cultures and peoples, they were forced to "integrate" lots of pagan mysticism and ideas into the Catholic Church, so they made Mary into a virgin earth goddess to appease pagans, they started producing gigantic buildings full of golden idols, etc.

God bless

Galatians 1:6-9, "I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed."

>you cannot prove the divinity of christ through the bible.
John 1:1.

>John 1:1

That still does not prove that jesus is eternal he literally has a beginning

>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

This is what is wrong with Protestants. Every moron thinks he understands the Bible more than the moron next door and is therefore entitled to judge everyone. Bunch of hypocrites.

I pray that those lead astray by the demonic catholic church will come out and become true followers of Christ.

Revelation 18:4 "4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not be a partner in her sins and receive her plagues;"

It says that the Word is God, which means he's eternal.

I just got back from Mass and I have to say, I truly feel sorry for protties and LARPagans. Be derisive, be irreverant, divide and conquer. But at the end of the day a Muslim or a Jew is going to make no distinction between us.

lies

no was god

he was god then he turned in to a man , in the old testament we have 2 gods the father and the son

>22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

John 1:5
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

Catholic heretics are worse than unbelievers, twisting and perverting the Gospel.

see

Jesus Christ was God in the flesh, and there aren't "2 gods", there's one God made up of 3 persons, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost. They aren't 3 separate Gods.

1 Timothy 3:16: "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh"

this is also why thomas calls jesus my god after he died and was glorified by the father

>. 28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. 29Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

DON’T BE DECEIVED BY FALSE DOCTRINES AND FALSE CLAIMS, READ THE WORD OF GOD FOR YOURSELF!!! ALL OF THE ANSWERS ARE IN HIS WRITTEN WORD!!!

2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Romans 3:4b Let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

TIL that we are kgb agents

The godhead is 2 gods the father and the son there is no trinity

>Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

1 John 5:7: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

Who told you that the Bible is the inspired Word of God? Jesus only mentions the old testament.

According to these catholic heretics there is a 4th person the SINLESS mother mary!

Who told you its ok to forget the second commandment and worship idols?

I don't. Checkmate protties.

That image isn't even completely wrong in a metaphorical sense. Catholics did hunt down any and all believers that would not bow to Rome and despite that there were still good Christian inside & outside the Catholic Church. The gates of hell (i.e. Rome) will not prevail against Christ's church (i.e. the congregation of true bible-believing Christians).

Is that why there is no historical record of "Baptists" until 1612.

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that verse is false and is added to confirm trinity

biblehub.com/1_john/5-7.htm

For there are three that testify:

New Living Translation
So we have these three witnesses--

English Standard Version
For there are three that testify:

Berean Study Bible
For there are three that testify:

Berean Literal Bible
For there are three bearing testimony:

New American Standard Bible
For there are three that testify:

King James Bible
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum

Lol kek

>Satanic modern day bible versions omit verses to deny the trinity
I am shocked.

Sorry, I don't read modern Bible versions.

Literally hackneyed garbage written in the 1900's. Come back when all of Christendom was Baptists because it sure as hell was Catholic. But I wouldn't expect Pastor Jim to understand history.

Me neither i think the king james bible is the best translation but its not free of errors the comma johaneum being one of them

The devil obviously setup the catholic church to be an impostor church as controlled opposition. To lead astray those who would seek the Lord. I don't understand how you can accept such blatant heresies as a sinless mother mary, or worshiping idols.

The Catholic Church teaches that the Priests have the power to call Christ Jesus down from heaven and place Himself into the round wafer and wine. There to be offered as a sacrifice over and over again! What blasphemy! The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus Christ offered Himself a sacrifice ONCE for all. And yet in the Roman Catholic Church Christ is sacrificed over and over again.

Members are taught to say the hail Mary and repeat it over and over again. Not only that, if you watch any Catholic TV, and see the nuns praying, you will see that they send the vast majority of their prayers to Mary, rather than Jesus. So what does Jesus Himself say about repetitive prayers?

Matthew 6:7 ...'But when ye pray, use NOT vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.'

Yes, it is free from errors.

This

>when all of Christendom was Baptists
For most of the 1st century AD

> it sure as hell was Catholic
No. Apostolic succession is a meme that only came much later and even then the supremacy of Rome was in debate until the schism.

So then according to you the Gates of Hell prevailed against it? Because the history of Western Civilization heartily disagrees with you. But what am I saying? You think Catholics worship Mary. meanwhile you ask your grandma to pray for you... Imagine my shock. A hypocrite prottie.

No its not its still the works of man

>Isaac Newton took a similar approach as Erasmus, looking to Jerome as the principal figure in placing the Comma in the Bible.[d] Newton also thought that the Athanasius Disputation with Arius (Ps-Athanasius) "had been deeply influential on the subsequent attitude to the authenticity of the passage."[15] Newton's comment that from Matthew 28:19 "they tried at first to derive the Trinity" implies that for the conjectured interpolation, "the Trinity" was the motive.

Like I care what Isaac Newton said, lol. If you believe that the Bible is the works of man, then every Bible is the works of man even the original.

Who cares what the best scientist at that time said

>then every Bible is the works of man even the original.

No that was from the holy spirit

Here your trinity brother even confirms its fake

gotquestions.org/Comma-Johanneum.html

Answer: The Comma Johanneum, also known as the Comma Johannine, is a textual variant in regards to 1 John 5:7-8. The word comma simply means “short clause,” and Johanneum means “pertaining to John.” Without the “comma,” 1 John 5:7-8 reads, “For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.” With the “comma,” 1 John 5:7-8 reads, “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.” If the Comma Johanneum was originally part of 1 John 5:7-8, it would be the clearest and most direct reference to the Trinity in the entire Bible.

>However, it is highly unlikely that the Comma Johanneum was originally a part of 1 John. None of the oldest Greek manuscripts of 1 John contain the comma, and none of the very early church fathers include it when quoting or referencing 1 John 5:7-8. The presence of the Comma Johanneum in Greek manuscripts is actually quite rare until the 15th century A.D. It is primarily found in Latin manuscripts. While some of the Latin manuscripts containing the Comma Johanneum are ancient, the Comma Johanneum did not appear in the original Latin Vulgate written by Jerome.

wasn't this the main propaganda control arm of the Hapsburg empire??? did that not take a lethal blow in WWI... now I am sure your EU overlords the Swiss-German/EasternRoyals are going to come up with a new religion to control the masses just as soon and they figure out how to 'out with the old in with the new'

Serious question to all of you here, I am a 20 year old male who grew up in a Christian home albeit one that wasn't 100% functional.
As I said I am 20 years old, good looking (8/10), fit, good personality which has resulted in my highschool years to get a lot of attention from women, 3 of them which I knew I could have had sex with. I decided against having sex because of the premarital sex thing but now at almost 21 years old and I'm University I am getting more sexual advances and I'm on the brink of caving.

So my question is, should I wait for marriage? I'm sure no man or woman in ancient times was unmarried or a virgin past the age of 20.
Please someone answer, it's crippling me. I was thinking of having sex once and getting it off my chest and then waiting for marriage.

Except Orthodoxy... but you faggots became even bigger faggots

>he Gates of Hell prevailed against it
As I already said: No, the gates of hell (i.e. Rome) did not prevail against Christ's church (i.e. the congregation of true bible-believing Christians). The Greek word "ekklesia" comes from "ek" (meaning "out of") and "kaleo "(="to call"). Some have taken this as evidence that it refers to "the called out" (i.e. called out of darkness into the light of God) and others the more direct interpretation of assembly or congregation. It was never supposed to refer to some sort of fixed organizational structure but the body of believers in Christ.

>Catholics worship Mary. meanwhile you ask your grandma to pray for you
As if the two are are even comparable.
I don't have statues of my grandmother or have specific repetitive prayers to my grandmother or a specific band of beads to pray to my grandmother.

are catholics the lowest IQ people on earth? If you believe in a soul, why would something you do on earth with this body have anything to do with your "eternal" soul? Pretty simple to me, if your god were real, children would not be getting raped in catholic churches. Child abuse aside the worst kind of people you will find at these churches

PLEASE ANYONE

Yes, you should wait. If you want to have sexual relations with a woman, you ought to love her enough to want to marry her.

Most of those are misinterpreted and either way if you read the Bible you will know that you need works, just watch the OP's videos
>(Matthew 7:21) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.
>(James 2:14-17) "What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead."
>(James 2:26) "For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead."
>(Matthew 5:16) "In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven."
>(John 14:15) "If you love me, you will keep my commandments."
>(1 Corinthians 6:9-10) "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."
Galatians 5:19-21 – Now the works of the flesh are evident which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, out bursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissentions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

UN Staff Committed 60,000 Rapes, Sexual Assaults

christianpost.com/news/former-official-claims-un-staff-committed-60000-rapes-sexual-assaults-in-past-10-years-218027/

jpost.com/International/UN-staff-allegedly-responsbile-for-over-60000-cases-of-sexual-exploitation-542817

Where'd the bad man touch you Pablo?

But in Ancient times (when the Bible was written) they never had to wait that long to find a partner and therefor have sex. In the modern society you get married roughly at the age of 25.

Matthew 7:21- 23 (KJV)

23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

The group that Jesus denies ever knowing:

>Believes doing works in Jesus' name will earn them entry into Heaven
>Are professing "Christians"

Sound familiar? Believing that your works save you or play any role in salvation shows you don't know Jesus and you are damned. The "will of the father" is that you believe on Christ, not works.

I'm not going by tradition, I'm going by what the Bible says. It doesn't matter what society did then or now.

First of all, Isaac Newton has nothing to do with the Bible. He's a natural scientist. Second of all, it's not "highly unlikely" that the "Comma Johanneum" is part of the Bible, it's a fact that it is. Not only does the removal of it make no sense contextually, whereas its inclusion makes the sentence and the context perfect -- three bear record in heaven, and three bear record on the earth. But you're also the same type of person that deletes Philip's answer in Acts 8:37 and say that it says "the prophet Isaiah" instead of "the prophets" when Jesus cites Malaki and Isaiah.

Second of all, just because it's not included in some of the earliest known manuscripts doesn't mean it's not in the Bible, because tons of other things not found in the earliest manuscripts are included when it doesn't have any bearing on doctrine. This is an extremely important passage that proves the deity of Christ and the trinity. If someone wanted to mess with it, he would just say "The Father, the SON, and the Holy Ghost", not the "the Father, the Word..."

Third of all, I don't believe in textual criticism, I believe the Bible is inspired.

Galatians 5:1-6, Galatians 6:12-13
Christ only works for those uncircumcised.

Are you currently a virgin? If so how old?
I'm struggling so badly with it....

White men are not supposed to follow semitic religions, fuck this meme

But user, Luther delivered the true gospel 1500 after st. Paul.

>what are Indo-Europeans
Go frolic with a bush

Yep and 28.

The Bible suggests that marrying to avoid fornication is alright. If there is someone you want to have sexual relations with, you should be prepared to marry them or it is just lust.

>1 Corinthians 7:1-2 King James Version (KJV)

7 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

>The religion that built Western civilization
>The religion that preserved the ancient works of Greco-Roman civilization
>The religion that wrote down the religions of the illiterate barbarian tribes

Don't take this as insult because my intentions are pure and thank you for being honest.
Are you a virgin really because you believe in sex when married or because you have not been able to have attract someone?

Yeah it sucks man. Up until the 20s or so you pretty much just bought your wife, or it was more of a deal between a man and a woman's father. And then even for the next 40 years courting wasn't that bad since society was good.

When the bible says let those who can't control their lust take a wife, they literally just went and bought a woman off her dad. Nowadays you spend the prime of male life with blueballs dating """christian""" women who probably aren't even virgins themselves, and everyone is so tainted by modernity even if you do find a virgin there's a good chance she'll leave you to go ride the cock carousel and there's no recourse for all the time and money you've invested into the game.

All I can say is you're probably in the best position to deal with this problem though. You're still young, fit and good looking and can potentially find a younger christian girl and marry her fairly quickly so good luck

I believe what the bible says, that sex should only occur between a husband and wife. My suggestion is to not look for someone to have sex with, but someone you want to marry.

If you make marriage your primary goal rather than what ought to come after, it might be easier.

Man thank you for responding, I knew I couldn't be the only one with these thoughts. It's incredibly difficult, I was thinking of having sex once (and I promise only once) to just get it off my chest and then look for sex in marriage.

You buy a wife today too, just not directly, it's all a big charade. Just start throwing money at them and you'll be married in no time. Don't have money? Tough luck bucko.

Cathlic church was infiltrated long ago by jews and muslims

I am in no position to marry, I do not have the resources to do so. In 2 years I will but not now. And just because I'll have resources two years from now doesn't mean I'll marry in 2 years since I'll have to find a partner

You know who don't have to be rich to get married or be in a position financially to support children and a wife as soon as you get married right? That's a part of what marriage is supposed to be. You're both young and start building your lives together.

Hmm good point, but I'm not entirely sure if a woman would like a relationship that forward?

>You know who don't have to be rich to get married or be in a position financially to support children and a wife as soon as you get married right?
Tell that to women, see how they react. If you don't have enough money, she'll find somebody who does. And while user is spending 2 years to accumulate some cash, some daddy's boys are marrying off women. If you have no money, you're screwed.

Proverbs 31:10
>Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

And even if you have a bit of money she's always looking out for the guy who has a bit more than you. Women's egos are so fucking inflated now sometimes I don't even see the point.

So should I just wait for marriage or just get it off my chest? I promise you I'm not some sex obsessed animal but in such a saturated sex culture could you blame me for being curious?

Well, exactly. They do it because they can. At any point in time they have 5 guys in their orbit. And I'm talking about average women. Why do you think those 500 men added her on facebook? Why do you think she accepted their requests? Well, I'm sure they aren't doing to exchange oatmeal recipes. I partly understand their behavior because why marry a guy who's short on cash and your life will be more annoying than it needs to be? Just go for the guy with the better cash flow.

Neither waiting nor not waiting will make you feel better nor help that anguish you feel because you can't find a decent girl.

My dilemma feels hopeless.... Everything else I have a good control over except this one thing.

Well you're still in a good position my dude. You can find some 18 yearold Christian girl, maybe even a homeschooled one, and tell her how you're in college for whatever and all your big plans for life.

I don't really know what to tell you besides go to Church and do the potlucks and whatever other after Church activities they have and try to find that girl. We live in a terrible time for relationships but at the end of the day a sin is a sin so it's better to try to find that girl.

Thanks brother, I truly do appreciate your words. God bless you this Sunday and beyond.

Being a man is terrible. You're worth exactly as much as your wallet. And don't be fooled by thinking it was different in the past. Village girls married the guy who had a horse and some land, not some local manure transporter.
Your other virtues, your personality are unimportant, the number of zeroes on a screen is all that you come down to as a person.

And statistics show this, in the last decade only the rich have been getting married. Middle class can't afford to be married anymore.

God bless you too fren and good luck

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But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Catholicism is the anti-Christ's religion.

If you want to know why the catholic church is going to hell... read the bible.

Thanks pastor Leroy, will do

reminder that worshipping false gods and prophets is blasphemy and even more so saints, there's only one god Christianity is the real religion

>Christianity is the real religion

cathocuck that worships and prays for every false saint like the faggy dead pope Jesus is the only other person you should believe in. you is in da wrong ya digg my nigga

Consider that Jesus claimed he was universalizing the Jewish faith, and he was serving as a judge against the Jews for their godlessness and corruption (see also exile to Babylonia). All this shit keeps happening because of the Satan worship and sacrifice of children.

Maybe we stop fighting between ourselves and do the basic thing we can all agree on (ridding ourselves of Satan), otherwise all this other meme'ing and circlejerking is pointless.

Are you a Catholic feeling superior? A Protestant creeped out by Catholics! A Jew thinking they're both nuts?

Good! Here's what you do:

- Hang all the pedos and satanists, and follow the money

You have a responsibility and you will be judged for doing nothing.

The earliest manuscripts of Christian texts we have are gnostic ones. We have more reason to be believe these are accurate depictions of early Christianity than the traditionally accepted ones.

>Salvation
>Outside of the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod
Pick one.
All ya'll niggas don't even subscribe to the Book of Concord!

Kek
Do you actually believe all of that?

Amen !
Jesus is the only name given to us whereby we can be saved !
>No weapon that is fashioned against you shall succeed, and you shall confute every tongue that rises against you in judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord and their vindication from me, declares the Lord.