>tfw telling people basic shit classifies u as a brilliant philosopher

I hear you but no one is forcing you to pay to listen to his lectures or buy his books. Either do it or don't.

Also sage for e-celeb faggotry

>I will. Looking forward for more amazing tips. You see I'm a bit on the stupid side and don't know how to live my life on my own.

LOOK YOU RETARDED MOTHER FUCKER.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS WATCH CARTOONS. THEN YOU SAY SHIT IN REALLY COMPLEX FUCKING WORDS THAT ARE NOT NORMALLY USED. THEN YOU FUCKING SAY THAT THE FUCKING CARTOON IS SOMETHING MORE THEN A CARTOON

I thought he was a clinical psychologist, not a philosopher.

>patreon ?

I ONLY TAKE MEME INTERNET COIN NOW BECAUSE MOST OF IT' IS ABOUT AS USELESS AS MOST OF MY INFORMATION

because you're dumb

Great tips Peterson. I will start watching Rick and Morty right away. Man I feel so much better now. Migth even clean my room after wiping my ass.

Brush your teeth

Another one for free just for you.

>clinical psychologist

You misspelled *selling his ass like a cheap whore

who are you quoting?

what self respecting man cleans their room like they are a woman ?

That says more about society than JBP.
No need to be angry.
>being this butthurt and autistic

...

it is the only way to avoid genocide everyone knows the number one cause of them is shit on your floor like extra socks.

You misspelled phD/Harvard Professor.

>Harvard Professor

*fired from Harvard

top kek

If im supposed to do all these things to grow up, why does my brain and body avoid it so much?

Checkmate peterson

He is the only one speaking of that though, in these times the likes of him are revolutionaries.

"Fucking Haitians, homosexuals, or heroin addicts will give you AIDS"
>That one was free from me if you want to learn more about basic shit buy my book

Man, this thread has some great advice. I think we should write our own book

This should be common sense, but the brainlets of the world think he's intelligent.

Shut up fag, I bet you want to fuck your relatives

>ITT: people who have their rooms clean, complaining about a person telling others to clean their room
>ITT: people who lack a bit of chaos in their live, missing the other side of the argument

I bet you have a messy room. Peterson is not happy with you memeflagger

>I bet you have a messy room
Wrong
>Peterson is happy
Dont care if he is
>memeflagger
Not an argument

Lets try that in your language"
I bet you are a very closed person, Enoch is a jewish name.

Now now there. Let's not get mad. I'm sure Peterson doesn't advocate violence.

Peterson’s “philosophy” explained in one simple, old, graphic... and soyboy millennials are buying it.

varg gets posted here because a lot of people like his music and his videos have a certain peaceful quality to them.
tbqh watching varg makes you feel like you're sitting down with a musician you respect and listening to him talk about shit he likes to talk about, same reason people watch interviews.

i don't even agree with half the shit varg says, especially the crazier shit like "brown eyed people aren't european" but i enjoy his videos

watching peterson feels like hanging out with some annoying TA at school who'se just sniffed a line of blow and keeps ranting about philosophy he has a solid understanding of but only applies to basic shit like "hey you know what, trannies have dicks. they're men"

pic related is petersons kike wife

Really makes me think

Hail Wotan desu fampai

Peterson being considered a prominent contemporary philosopher says alot about the education of the newer generations.

I mean half of his advice you should have gotten from your dad or teachers, or having been put in situation where you realize this for yourself. Since everyone is utterly overprotected and has no contact to reality and/or the education to contextualize what hapens to them , of course he comes off as some messiah.

Just getting in shape is doing nothing for you unless you shape up your mind, too. And that is hard (not saying Peterstein is the way).
I know a couple of socially retarded asswipes who got buff and then went full depression because kept getting no pussy, as they still acted retarded.
And no, unless you have enough confidence that you could do better otherwise, going for hookers will not make you feel better.

>telling people basic shit

Casual detected.
Yes when he is pressed for generalized advice he gives a basic generalized answer - because you have to keep it simple for it to apply to the widest range of people.

However his talks are anything but basic, he goes into great depth on a range of different topics, and his more personalized advice is also quite insightful on the rare occasions he's in a position to give it.

Except he doesn’t have a solid understanding of philosophy. Philosophipys is about reading the text and finding understanding from the philosophical arguement. Peterson is a psychologist with political opinions that cherry picks philosophical arguements (and religious fables) out of context to try to support his opinions. What he is doing is the very essence of postmodern relativism that he condemns. It’s why even conservative philosophers and academics don’t take his arguments seriously, (even though they may agree with his opinion)

He just says normal sentences but adds flourishes of jargon or bullshit like "tell the story causality" instead of "tell the story" so you can think he is talking about something deeper than he really is.

I suppose someone who lacks the intelligence to truly understand what he's talking about might come to that conclusion...
But no.

This man is helping us understand the decline of western civilisation, you faggots.

RESCUE YOUR DAD FROM ALFS RAPE DUNGEON
CLEAN YOUR UNDIES
PICK YOURSELF UP BY THE THONG STRAPS BOGAN

WHERE'S MY FUCKIN MONEY CUNTS?!

No it's true. He just adds filler to always give himself a way out of what he just said. He doesn't commit to anything he preaches. It's particularly telling how much he evokes Christianity so often without being a very pious man himself. I bet he doesn't even go to church. He just rambles as much bullshit as he can until something vaguely sticks enough for him to move further in his rambling reasoning. Dude's been on SSRIs for like 20 years, his brain is shot. That's why he cries on camera.

Hey look, it's another "Jordan Peterson is an overrated shill" thread. Not like we've already had 9874 of these.

What the fuck is the big deal? Are you obsessed with the guy or are you constantly surrounded by Jordan Peterson fanboys and rather than tell them how overrated you think he is so that they finally shut up, you come here for a "Let's hate Jordan Peterson" circlejerk like a total faggot?

The guy has noticed that although his university lectures are 80% female, he has a massive online following of young men who either grew up without a father-figure, or were thrust into life without any proper perspective on how to live it, so they find the things he says profound. He sees a demand, he creates a supply and makes money as a result, what is wrong with that?

It's not like the stuff he says is not readily available online if you don't want to pay anyway.

this is not his philosophy tho.
Its not
>Clean your room
Its
>If you dont clean your room dont try to change the world
Conversely
>If you have OCD you shouldnt try to change the world either

Good job attakcing strawmans, must feel nice

>you can't study christianity as important to western civilization if you dont praise jewish baby jesus king of the jews
If anything avoiding reform Judaism but studying it should give you more clarity on what its discussing than taking it at face value as the word of a skydaddy.

...

And if he has to tell you something as basic as picking up your clothes, he’s telling you you’re the reason western civ is declining. The existential problem isn’t ethnonationaism, or postmodernism .. it’s you sad pathetic millennials that are so intellectual deficient, so lacking in agency, that you have to be told: pick up your clothes.

See you're just like him you're afraid to commit to anything so you'll circle jerk mental masturbation over Jesus together instead.

You're an idiot. Plenty of SJWs and kikes make their bed in the morning before they go out to destroy the world.

>if you dont follow the jewish messiah you cant commit to anything in life
fuck off, retard.

I'm smarter and more successful than you and I'm not making my bed this morning

How about his daughter?

The point is that if you're a fucking loser then you shouldn't tell other people how to live. I know you are too stupid to actually read into things but its not quite as simple as just cleaning your room

Sort of like how when I tell you to "kill yourself," I don't necessarily mean just to kill yourself. I also mean you are stupid and unlikable and the world would also be a better place if you were no longer in it.

Varg has good points and his videos are short and concise.

Varg is not particularly manipulative, he won't make you ''feel good''. I despised Varg a lot previously but kept watching him. By time, I just had to admit it, he was right about most things.

Somehow I doubt that.

>anons mom tells him to clean his room
>REEEEEE FUCK YOU MOM I FUCKING HATE YOU
>random dude on the internet says it
>yes daddy!

never change Cred Forums

Because most people don't understand even basic stuff.

>It's particularly telling how much he evokes Christianity so often without being a very pious man himself. I bet he doesn't even go to church.

"And when ye pray, ye shall not be as the hypocrites: for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have received their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thine inner chamber, and having shut thy door, pray to thy Father who is in secret, and thy Father who seeth in secret shall recompense thee."

You can shut the fuck up now you faggot cunt.

Oh shit is that the time time for another JP thread about how everyone who listen to him is retard and I clean my room and make 50#+6k dollar cash a year and have a banging hot 14/10 aryan goddess. And I never needed any lame info about creation miffs from a pop psychologist man pol/ is fucking shit.

>Here is a tip wipe your ass after shitting.

you wash your ass with water or use wet wipes after shitting. dry toilet paper will not wipe away bacteria from your ass you uncultivated fag.

Wash cloth and oatmeal soap in the sink my fellow arsewiping patrician.

This

If anything you should blame society for being in such a sad state, not Jordan Peterson for trying to fix it. The guy said himself that it's been surreal that he says something as mundane as "If you want to be happy, make yourself a useful, productive member of society" and young men come flocking saying "Wait...I can be a useful productive member of society?"

If someone made money teaching Indians how to prevent cholera outbreaks and generally make their villages and cities nicer places to live by not shitting in the streets you might mock the Indians for not having made the connection, but you'd definitely not call the guy an overrated shill for simply teaching things other people consider common sense.

I hope you realise how man whales you're choking with those shitty wet wipes Hans.

Because from a biological point of you, you are just meant to breed and / or die off.

>telling people basic shit classifies u as a brilliant philosopher
welcome to (((modern civilization)))

Why did you remove the bulge?

Heres an even better one put toilet paper down first so you dont get the dooky splash on your butt

>The point is that if you're a fucking loser then you shouldn't tell other people how to live

Thanks for summarizing my point about JB Pete. Dude has been on SSRIs longer than we've been alive. He died a long time ago.

He's contributed to his field but everyone only cares about his meme theories because they're politically relevant.

Philosophy is literally nothing but idiots spouting either obvious shit or total nonsense they came up with while they were high and expecting people to treat them like geniuses.

A lot of young men live in filth and have fallen into a state of obviousness to the direction of their life. Their family and friends have given up on them and they are essentially already disposed of. Peterson points out some simple tasks that may help them acknowledge the terrible state that they're in.

listen up bucko, if you dont clean your'are'r room you're going to be in BIG TROUBLE!

listen here bucko, barge has a cool beard and he cleans his room, hes a malignant narcisist, dont mess him whim bucko

buy my new book and testicle cleaner if you want to shape up your life, bucko

you better shape up, BUCKO, otherwise your going ro be in BIG TROUBLE

>still talking after I blew you the fuck out

Just leave the thread mate.

"If you want to become a racecar driver, you should start off by learning how to drive"
"So what you are saying is get a driver's license and I'll be an F1 champion?"

Imagine being this bad at character assassination. Just sad really

>"If you want to be happy, make yourself a useful, productive member of society" and young men come flocking saying "Wait...I can be a useful productive member of society?"

That's the thing. Society isn't going to make them happy. They're going to do what every normal person did 10 years ago and then when they finally catch up they'll realize what we did too: Any good woman was taken or broken, and if you do find a hot woman you want to make your wife, she's going to ignore you for the nigger hitting her up for sex. For all the cleaning your room he's reminding you, he forgets to mention the women won't be cleaning their rooms any time soon, and in fact they like men who make every room a mess.

woah calm down there BUCKO, peterson is our lord and saviour, support him on patreon and buy his new book and testicle cleaner if you want to shape up your life bucko, cause othwerwise you're head FOR TROUBLE

Because the archetypical characters are influencing your thought process, roughly speaking. But why? Because you're very low on the male dominance hierarchy. Clean your room.

kek
keep trying, /leftypol/
Peterson is living in your heads rent-free

He's a patreon scammer

Tells beta fag cucks what they want to hear in exchange for money

Its both the argument that you make AND this
>If you want to become a racecar driver it will do your goal well to do a little bit of painting on the side
In other works
>If you are very technical, try sometimes to do something creative
>If you are creative, try sometimes to do some math
>If you dont clean or have ocd, tackle that a bit first, before you change the world

Im not sure what the other incels in this thread dont get about this.
>myh clean your room strawman

look at all these bucko's with dirty rooms and unwashed testicles. support our god jorden peterson on pateron and get his new book and ball cleaning device, because without him YOURE IN BIG TROUBLE, BUCKO

He's not even Christian you idiot.

>being this unfunny
Do you even have a Y chromosome

He has enough Y chromosomes to admit the holocaust isn't real and the Jews are coming after him.

Jordan Peterson's got a platform and he uses archetypal psychology terms in a concise manner to push against some of the absurdities in the west- absurdities that seem clearly insane yet they get pushed anyway.

Well I'm pretty sure he's not a muslim you drongo cunt!

WOAH THERE, listen here BUCKO, SOMEONE needs to wash he/she's room and their testicles, and its not me

CAPISCE, BUCKO?

If he has his way Canada will be full of muslim men who make their bed and pray on a rug 10 times a day in between fucking their white women slaves

solid understanding doesn't mean well understood.
i probably said that wrong tbqh.

it's like saying "I have a solid understanding of automobiles because i can fill my gas tank up without causing a fire"

good enough for pleb shit, but if my transmission failed i'd be up shit creek.

slav with bad english, sorry m80

Well your argument has just about gone of the rails mate, you really oughta learn when to concede a point.

It's been really interesting seeing the evolution of the anti peterson shill
>emotional response
>lying and misrepresenting
>smug attitude
>mockery
It's like your average twitter SJW with a check mark, they talk as if they have it all figured out
They also accuse people of being cult like while being cult like themselves, every retarded thread like this they prop themselves up, every time some retard says something like
>he has commie paintings he is secretly a commie!
Every shill starts to prop him up as if that were the undeniable truth
What's even more funny is that they by far, spread him and talk about him more than someone from a cult would

Hahahah. Typical unfunny, low IQ woman trying to banter with the boys. Sorry hunny, you suck at this. There is no appliance that you can plug in that will heat up ir product that you can buy that make your words look better than they actually are. You and your friends are just too dumb to psyop on a piece of shit anime site. Let that sink in

>hurr im so edgy cos i like him

>hurr im even edgier cos i dont like him

muh counter culture

>when you remember none of us would have known who he was if those commie idiots didn't go protest one of his early days low key talks
They always shoot themselves in the foot.

k i actually have things to do w/ my life, i cant just sit here laughing at this fucking joke for the rest of day, regardless of how hard i cry whenever i suggest the BUCKO BALL WASHER to people looLLLL

ahhhhh.. you goys are such braindead sheep.... jordan peterson is a JOKE and anyone who takes him seriously NEEDS to buy his bucko ball washer asap

CAPISCE, BUCKO?

All reasonably substantiated opinions might as well be philosophy.
There is no stringent requisite for philosophizing other than using some logic. But then even that isn't necessary, since you can be Evola and appeal with metaphysical ideas.
What determines "good" and/or compelling philosophy is itself a matter of philosophical debate.

Only a genuinely solipsistic retard would outright reject JP because he says rational and accurate things, but they perceive that he's citing something specific from "philosophy."
News flash ignoramus: all philosophy is essentially 'cherry-picked' and none of you will ever be as persuasive as Nietzsche or Schopenhauer.

Granted, in any other age, JP would be mediocre. It's really a testament to how spiritually decayed this zeitgeist is that opinions like JP find special import.

At the moment they are just vegetating away in their rooms playing video games and watching porn because they were brought up being told that as white cisgender men they're primary influence on the world is oppressing everyone else.

Getting off their ass and regaining a sense of pride and purpose is the first essential step in the right direction regardless of what happens after that and if anyone is going to change societal problems it's young white men who offer their time and resources to make a difference.

In the meantime this "society is fucked, there is no hope or point" attitude is total cancer and another reason for a generation of basement dwellers who do nothing with their lives.

Lol every time you get blown the fuck out by your own intellectual inadequacy you tantrum post like this. You never actually leave, but it is delicious

>tfw telling people basic shit classifies u as a brilliant philosopher
It's a sad sign of how fucked up things are that a guy like Peterson is so desperately needed.

and remember, if you become a top 10 donator on jordan peterson's patreon, you get a 25% off on your next bucko ball washer purchase!

LOLL it never gets old, ride him harder bucko

I'd say somebody who improved their mental state to move away from external crutches is the person you'd want to listen to so you can accomplish the same.

Lol maybe if you spent time making yourself look better instead of pretending to have opinions on the internet men would like you

Hee still is on them and God knows what else. He's a loon dude. Look at his family.

I'm not taking advice from a fucking commie. It's all subversion. Jews can't find my shekels in a messy room

He isn't still on them, though.

>Hee still is on them
Is he? Didn't he lay off them after changing his diet?
>Look at his family.
Successful married daughter with children? Wow, what a wreck.

The fact that you are trying to equate men with the ideas of man makes you either an absolute brainlet or a liar, which is it my friend?

>Be Canadian Gen X’r
>Be spoon fed “muh rights, muh minorities” since elementary school
>Liberals have had a strangle hold on education for 20+ years because Canadian PC party doesn’t give a flying fuck
>Be taught literal social justice in history class (only bad things muh white devil did)
>Go to university and realize outside of rural all white town that something is wrong, socially isolated by POC who create over half the campus
>Internartional students hold protest to demand Canada subsidies their education as they do their own people
>this is normal

Then I find Peterson
>Responsibilities over rights
>Realize that an arts degree is fucking idiotic
>Take a trade at college
>Focus on self improvement
>Be now
>Be much more fufilled in life

Just because it’s common sense to you doesn’t mean that large quantities of people who are brainwashed can’t be snapped out of it by this guy. He’s your most effective tool to redpill normies whether you agree or not. Hence the shilling in every JBP thread.

It sounds like basic shit to the older people on this site because it is. The problem is that your generation failed to teach it to your children and now they are suffering.

That last school shooting? The person who did it was so hopeless he needed someone to help him use the microwave. He had absolutely zero life skills and no confidence. How he got a job like this is unknowable, but you can be damn sure it didn't pay more than minimum wage.

Imagine, your parents abandon you, fail to teach you basic morality and basic life skills, and then your teachers brainwash all the masculinity and critical thinking out of you for 12 years straight. That's what you older folks did to the last 2 generations. Pathetic parenting makes pathetic children.

nah m8, hes a tier 1 faggot cuck who capitulates every single point worth speaking about and doesnt even publically state hes a God fearing man

guy literally refuses to answer "do you believe in God". tier 1 faux liberal thin necked faggot

hes a perfect example of why most people are braindead, because this guy is a popular guy with tons of donations on his pateron

but nah bucko i was just joshin ya m8 clean ur room and buy his Bucko Ball Washer™ cause otherwise ur in BIG TWABLE, CAPICHE?

He's flat out said that his ideas aren't revolutionary. The reason he's successful is because he's very good at articulating ideas that we all have but many find confusing and overwhelming. When organized and put succinctly, things are much more clear. This is what clinical psychologists do. They don't introduce revolutionary ideas to you, they just help you build a plan, organize yourself, and find tangible results.

>i habe a life w/ things to do besides pretending to have a brain on 4chang
>jk lol
Wash your vagina

How has it gone off the rails? He's teaching men to be good boys who will gladly cuck themselves for the new caliphate and pay taxes to feed Ramul and Omad and Abdul.

You don't get it he's exploiting male character just like women do. Men WANT to be the sacrifice. He's teaching men to sacrifice themselves for "society" and women but won't get anything in return.

>I've never read or listened to any Jordan Peterson but let me tell you about how he makes me feel

First you say he's not a good christian because he doesn't show it off in public, then you say he's not Christian at all, now you're saying he specifically wants to bring more muslims into his country.

You're unhinged mate, your hatred for the man is entirely irrational and it's showing through into your posts.

It's kinda hard to organize and build a plan when he tells you kikes aren't the real issue, the holocaust really happened, and you're not allowed to speak about the kikes and if you do you didn't clean your room, and so on. He's about anything BUT tangible results. Or in other words, he has wondered WAY off the ranch when it comes to clinical psychology. He has no business counter signaling racial awareness.

youtu.be/lAqcge10Mfc

This is a function of their political delusion. They are zealots who will say things that they don't actually mean or know, in the hopes that something will stick and do some damage. It is kind of cute that they are exploring new depths of political lunacy leaving Cred Forums looking like the intellectually mature ones. Hilarious actually.

Or in other words, you lack the intellectual capacity to integrate desparate ideas and you are (pretending to be) looking for someone to follow, rather than good ideas themselves. If you believed in any of this you would be an even bigger brainlet than your poorly subversive real self.

>It's kinda hard to organize and build a plan when he tells you kikes aren't the real issue

Not really. He talks about very practical things, about helping people to get motivated and better their lives, even in the simplest of ways. The issue isn't always about radical change like a new career or becoming rich. Why do the Jews need to be front and center in that discussion?

You're the unhinged ones who can't interpret what I say.

The whole point about Christianity was very simple and clear from the start: He's using it to exploit others to his advantage. Of course you can't see through it. You would like to believe he brings hope, but he doesn't. He brings more jewry.

>Granted, in any other age, JP would be mediocre. It's really a testament to how spiritually decayed this zeitgeist is that opinions like JP find special import.
/thread

can someone explain the lobster garbage?

The simple truth is that you aren't smart enough to bring down Peterson, you're not even smart enough to have a cohesive opinion in a thread on Cred Forums. And his advantage? Come now, you really are stupid. Why does everything you say have this silly cartoon narrative you dummy? The only one bringing more jewry is you and you do it badly

>They are zealots who will say things that they don't actually mean or know, in the hopes that something will stick and do some damage

That's a good point, they don't seem so have any sense of responsibility for what they say - for example I sometimes fact check a claim I'm making before I post it - no such conscientiousness seems to exist in people like this bloke.
He really does just throw any old argument out and leaves it up to us to sort through it all and refute it... and anything we don't refute... anything that "sticks" must be proof he is right - regardless of whether or not it had any relevance or bearing on the discussion at hand.

It's probably quite effective because it's more laborious for us to refute all these retarded arguments than it is for him to pump them out.

Hierarchies are everywhere and even lobsters have them. This simple sentence melts the pathetic brainlet.

We share some of our neurochemistry with lobsters so much of how our hierarchies work can be seen in lobsters, also anti depressants work with them.

>Why do the Jews need to be front and center in that discussion?

Come on you retard. His whole claim to fame was arguing with cultural MARXIST FEMINIST sjws. Do you really think feminism started because men stopped cleaning their rooms? Holy shit you are fools. I know your dad taught you to "man up" and it's really unnerving to admit you don't have all the power over your own destiny like you thought you should, but yes, the jews are the front and center of this problem.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Feminists_by_religion

that's fucking stupid, lobsters are cannibals and will eat the weak even if you rubber band their claws (just takes longer because they have to chew).

There are in fact dominance hierarchies in lobsters though.

How about you watch the channel 4 interview with context instead of asking to be spoon fed and then making assumptions about the qr you fucking faggot

feminism started because fathers stopped controlling their daughters and husbands stopped controlling their wives. The original feminists were spinsters in their 40s and 50s whose father had died and had no husbands.

>Do you really think feminism started because men stopped cleaning their rooms?
Why do you keep reducing the argument like this? Are you really that much of a retarded shill that you are unable to argue without strawmaning?

wow you changed my life now show me your sweet pink boipucci

Let's try to stay on track here. I was talking specifically about people's individual lives and how, even without new ideas, he helps to better them. Literally the smallest details of your day to day life. Now you're talking about grand, overarching theories that impact entire societies.

First they tried to meme that he was a Nazi. Now there is a clearly organized effort to discredit him.

This is a good sign that you should listen to what he says. (((They))) desperately don’t want you to listen.

There have been non stop multiple anti Jordan Peterson threads on this board all weekend. All of them attack him from the same angles. His advice is basic common sense, his followers use him as a surrogate father figure, "e-celeb", and he's an anti-white Jewish puppet.

This shit is the most obvious shill campaign. I hope it's just leftypol or some sub-reddit or something and that some guy from Canada who doesn't like Marxism isn't being tarted by intelligence agencies or NGO's or something because he tells people to clean their rooms.

>amazing scientifically approved advice tip thing
>free but buy my book you cunts

you should go back to your containment board

It’s kekistan (ugh, I cringe even typing that). It’s a false flag attack that is meant to be really transparent. That way people will support Peterson because they think it’s forbidden knowledge or some shit like that.

You're both wrong lol. Feminism was strong in the 1800s and has close links to the occult which just so happens to also be the close lineage of Jungian psychology and direct line to JB Pete. He has a fucking marxist art collection and is married to a kike for fucks sake. Could you be any more deluded with your double think?

Get used to it. This is how modern leftists argue. They have no shame because they are subconsciously nihilistic to the core. They drift between positions seamlessly and it's like they were never wrong becsuse they never actually cared. Their identity is shattered in this process. A centralized ideology that elevates the ego is all that is required and a miasma of personalities of opportunity present themselves to be used freely. My best guess is that this is a evolutionary side effect of social media.

I have first hand experience with lobsters you niggers. The existance of arthropod behavior where the weaker creature surrenders/avoids andn the stronger creature doesn't kill, purse or accepts surrender is meaningless unless you are a reddit soyboy who can't justify why you should protect your own family before you protect nigger refugees.

I don't care about your personal experience you stupid faggot, you do not have personal experience hearing what JP so you should just shut the fuck up about lobsters and watch the interview

Your personal experiences don't actually trump scientific research on the subject.

>You're both wrong
Ah fuck you got me, I will change my ways now
>he actually did everything in the shill flowchart
>>emotional response
>>lying and misrepresenting
>>smug attitude
>>mockery

You've got some nerve saying shit like that to a lobster expert. What are your credentials?

Nigger slayer

Lobsters are more complicated though.

"Lobsters have hierarchies" is Neil Degrasse Tyson levels of scietific factoids that while technicly true are near worthless trivia. Le Black scienceman also said that no scientific study has shown prayer stops school schooters. You should log onto social media and like/retweet/upvote.

Where does this ball-washing meme come from, in relation to JBP?

>the fact that hierarchies can be proven to be a evolutionary mechanism is worthless trivia

nigga youre retarded too

>le
You should kill yourself. You pretend to have all this lobster knowledge while going on and on criticizing a one-line rundown that someone spoonfed you. You are a fucking retard. Either go watch the interview so you actually know what you're talking about or shut the fuck up

Feminist Argument: Dominance hierarchies are specific to patriarchal white male dominated western society
JBP: Even lobsters have dominance hierarchies
You: REEEEEEEEE LE NEIL DEGRASSE TYSON FA CEBOOK TWITTER GOGGLES FUCKING JBP

What the fuck is your problem?

This is what fat leftist women find funny. It's another failed meme.

The guy you're responding to makes 2000 posts a week about JBP and has spent countless hours making videos, memes, and trying to come up with jokes in order to shitpost about JBP. He's absolutely obsessed.

I'm sure I could find an archive of his posts all organized so you can see the amount of time he spends on this shit.

It's just turning the strawman of the "clean your room" meme into more of a mockery line.

He also does it on /lit/ and Cred Forums
His posting pattern is so fucking easy to spot it's ridiculous

Golly I normally wipe my ass before shitting

>he

>wipe your ass after shitting
Join the god-tier ass washers, user.

lobsters are solitary. You might as well talk about Bears who are also solitary and do the same challenges where the loser backs off and slinks away. Wolves are much better examples because you have both males and females in packs and the alphas control the betas, the betas the gammas and will prevent the mating of animals lower in the hierarchy. Low status wolves have to sneak away from the pack to mate. That's actually fucking interesting.

>Le lobsters do it too
is stupid. Dung Beetles are way more interesting in their hierarchy and social interactions especially the ones where females hang onto shit balls and are rolled along by males who will attempt to steal the females and/or shit balls.

AND IT IS NO WONDER THAT FAGGOTS LIKE YOU GIVE MONEY TO A FUCKING LEAF

>the retard comes apart at the seams
>alphas betad gamma lobsters
>wolves
>lel thats stoopid dung beetles are more interesting
So not only are you not a lobster expert, you know absolutely fucking nothing. Color me surprised
>Le lobsters do it too
And you're still arguing from Cathy Newman's perspective. Hahahahah retard

>Ad hominem is not an argument.

It isn't just that but whatever, I am sick of strawmaning faggots like you that omit stuff just so they are able to argue
>AND IT IS NO WONDER THAT FAGGOTS LIKE YOU GIVE MONEY TO A FUCKING LEAF
There is the mockery tactic yet again
>if you disagree with anyone about their criticisms of a person that means you buy all their stuff and are a blind follower

You still have no idea why he talks about lobsters.....

Just watch one of his fucking videos already, this is a JBP thread - not an animal heirarchy thread - if you want to talk about animal hierarchies independent of their relevance to JBP's points and arguments go make a new thread.

go clean your room

but why would Peterson selling ballwash would be a bad thing? also, the only men I see railing against Peterson are soyboys. this is so confusing.

no he wasn't

>clinical psychologist
I.e. paid to delude unhappy individuals in to believing all is well and they alone are the problem.

Makes sense.

It is such basic shit, but then why does nobody tell young men the basic shit anymore? The boomer fathers are all empty shells of human beings, they can't take anything in life seriously, why is it that some overly emotional leaf man is one of the last people giving common sense advice to young men? Who is supposed to be responsible for giving this advice? The church doesn't do it, the schools don't, no guidance counselor can do it, what the hell is going on and what happened to the boomer men and why do they just sit back and let women run all over them, something happened 40 or so years ago, was it television? Were they brainwashed subconsciously? What happened.

As opposed to telling them that we need to gas fags like you to fix the world?

So many kids in American (mostly the black population) are raised in single family homes by their mothers.

They are really without fathers. So sad.

But hopefully Peterson will spark a broad discussion about this. And at the very least, these kids can eventually find their way to his book.

Nope but I sure got myself a brand new rug!

If we begin from the promise that the external world needs "sorting out" then sorting oneself out is only better conforming the the world which we've identified as severely lacking. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Seems you must do both at once to me; they're symbiotic.

>t. Brainlet

lmao philosemitic amerimongrels despise Varg because he laid out the truth
youtube.com/watch?v=eDxtee42Yzo

You can't do something you don't know how to do properly and expect it to work, that is the point of you starting with yourself and branching out, because that way you won't fuck it all up like the retard you are because you thought you could fix the world

>2k dollars
Totally not milking people for money!

false

The idea is that you shouldn't need someone to tell you to clean your room anymore than you should need them to tell you to wash your balls. You should just know to do it. Which we all do. Which is why everyone on earth has a clean room.

They don't get that he isn't just giving common sense advice, he's giving compelling arguments in defense of common sense and trying to persuade people that doing what they know they ought to do is actually pragmatic and self rewarding and not a pointless chore.

Also, putting a 4sale sign on the ballwasher implies exploitation.

>You can't do something you don't know how to do
That's exactly how man has persevered for millennia. Your attitude breeds the same passivity you claim it's combatting only it stems more from a feeling of perpetual inadequacy than from utter hopelessness.

>He doesn't clean his room

Do you even minimalism?

youtube.com/watch?v=6XSJ-kI4VVg

A better analogy would be that your odds of success are improved if you are prepared. You toss a toddler into a cage fight with a pitbull and the pitbull wins every time.

>he still has a room that needs cleaning
get on my level

Are you misunderstanding on purpose? It's not to never do it and give up, it's learn to do it properly and move from there
Explorers don't throw themselves at a jungle blindfolded you retarded fuck.

You have no idea how deep I had to get in useless junk before I realized the truth of this - been selling off stuff like mad now.

Clutter is traditional and aristocratic desu. There's nothing inherently wrong with surrounding yourself with "things" so long as they're meaningful and inspiring. The problem is the nature of modern clutter is that of vapid consumption.

then don't but it you 1/2 tard
good rugs don't get made by a machine and cost 20 bucks

Well this guy doesn't get it at all.
But at least he gets the 'clean up your room' bit, because that fits on a t-shirt.
The explanation is a bit long (for you) but it's quite detailed about how the way you do small things is nested within and determines the way you can possibly do bigger things. After understanding this from the neurological level up to how you function as a citizen, that's when the idea that someone who wants to change the world better have a tidy room and clean underpants on today.
The explanation is long and owes a lot to Piaget, with a few other early 20th century scientists thrown in and is testable, falsifiable and coherent.

Jordan Peterson doesn't know how to do it properly so how are you learning? Wisdom is to be found in your ancestors, not some sad old man fully immersed in the adverse influences of the 20th century.

He's going to solve the NEET problem. If you want /r9k/ and soyboys to be the norm for Western men, then fuck off.

Why are Stormfags the only ones posting threads about him

Is it a coincidence it began when he rejected ethno-politics? Meanwhile they circlejerk around a faggot who literally promotes collectivism and socialism.

CNN getting you to live in a bubble

You get that I was explaining the joke but not agreeing with it, right?

I'm sure Peterson would agree with this post

It doesn't make you a brilliant philosopher but it's good to hear when the War on Boys has ruined you socially.

Nobody is arguing the carpet would be shit quality, it's more the fact people are mocking an alleged intellectual for giving into the online personality merchandising trend so candidly. I get it's the way things seem to be heading towards but it's just plebeian behaviour desu. Sophist at best. Literally what Socrates decried in the athenian agora because he was so edgy he wouldnt charge his students for simply asking questions and bec9ming a rug-merchant is about as sophist tier as you can get.

As far as I can tell his life and that of his family is in order or are you going to say his family is sad and broken?
>Wisdom is to be found in your ancestors
Yes? Who has denied this? Peterson himself constantly recommends books by the great minds of old and points people into learning about history

I think commies just larp as right wing too just to try and smear him here since they know we are redpilled on jews

How can mirrors be real if your eyes aren't real?

>Dinner was pleasant even though he ordered white wine, which I do not typically drink. Conversation was awkward, as you might expect on a first date. Aziz asked if I had read the new book by Jordan B. Peterson. I had not and did not even know who this author was(later, I found out he's an alt-right Nazi leader, that should have been a big red flag). Aziz said that he really enjoyed the book, and that we should re-organize society to mimic lobster society as Peterson suggested in the book. He said that is the way for The Claw to thrive and prosper.

>anons mom tells him to clean his room
>REEEEEE FUCK YOU MOM I FUCKING HATE YOU
>random dude on the internet says it
>yes daddy!

The difference is the explanation and justification of the effort involved

That's part of the equation for sure. The other is that buckodrones are so easy to trigger that even if you agree/dont mind peterson then shitposting about him on Cred Forums is worth it alone for the keks.

> People who don't support my eDaddy Prophet Peterson are either Stormfags.. or Commies!!!!

The online format might be more friendly and accessible to autists tho. Mommy should simply learn to shitpost online too if she wants the toilet seat put down.

Based OP BTFO of neckbeard Petercucks.

>tfw shitting on genius on an autistic neo nazi site so you feel intelligent and less insecure

Collectivism = a telescope on human behavior
Individualism = a microscope on a human's behavior

They are just two complementary views of the same phenomenon. In theory the individual can be distinct, but in reality he conforms more than you think. Consider capitalism, supposedly the source of choice and individual free will - but if you look at the average individual capitalist even on a superficial level he's just wearing and using the same mass produced goods as everyone else. For the majority of people they express their individuality by copying everyone else. Ironically it is chiefly the domain of the rich or highly skilled to have true individual preferences, to have only one of something. Bugmen typically lack these skills because their professions are too specialized, due to capitalism, to really help them in this regard.

>Muh jq
>Muh own impotence

God. your pathetic

... So don't buy it

Are we looking at the same thread because all I see is leftists trying to assassinate Peterson's characrer and getting blown the fuck out, then running away

If you are jealous, you will never sort yourself out.

This is the only college professor who has publicly stood up against political correctness.

I'm almost 50, but I think I've got lots of great advice from him I hadn't thought of. Specially on raising my kids.

You remind me of this ass hole in a singularity MeetUp group I went to. The main guy running it hated Ray Kurzweil. He said he had met Kurzweil, was not impressed with him, and this childhood was working on quoting a science fiction novel [no one would ever read].

You can't learn from other people and better yourself if you have a shitty attitude. That kind of personality also makes you very unattractive to the opposite sex because jealousy is a sign of feeling inferior.

(cont)
That is not to say some aspects of capitalism has no value whatsoever, but in reality capitalism does not reward individualism, it disincentives it. If you were to go out and try to "have it your way" (that is, demand a product that is exactly what you want), the price you would pay would be far higher than accepting what was designed to have mass market appeal. Capitalism doesn't reward individual preferences, it charges a premium for them.

> 50
> Needing an eDaddy
Pathetic

> if you don't follow my cult, you've literally never learned from anyone or bettered yourself

>simultaneously makes a blanket strawman argument as he takes a statement made to an individual as a blanket comment
Holy shit the mental gymnastics there. I bet you don't even have an IQ high enough to count the amount of fallacies there. Sad thing is everybody is already accustomed to you coming to the defense in every thread of your vapid shitposting eDaddy. Fuck off.

>lives on 4chang in peterson threads but still can't format posts right
>still using the Maltese flag when absolutely everyone knows you are a part of the anti Peterson retard brigade

>dumb enough to think nobody knows

post proofs

>all these buckos with unwashed testicles
you're never going to ride the dragon into the belly of the whale to save your forefathers at this rate, BUCKO

first of all im a man, second of all im a virgin, third of all i dont want a female because i want to castrate myself. read matthew 19:12, matthew 5:29-30, matthew 18:8 and mark 9:43-47. eunuchs are super cool according to the bible

>my face when these busters dont even clean their rooms
i know, right! these BUCKOS and BUSTERS better shape up and clean their rooms so they can finally ride the dragon into the their forefathers whale

they need to get theirselves SORTED OUT

thank GOD im a top 10 donator at lord peterson's patreon, i even get a special discount on his very own special custom flavor of soylent!

based boomer larper

uuuuummmmmmm........ LISTEN HERE, BUSTER!

you need to STOP and SORT YOURSELF OUT, okay? youre headed for BIG TROUBLE, and thats NOT OKAY! you need to clean your room and support JP (jordan petterson, DUH) on patreon RIGHT NOW if you think you can EVER get away with this

>my face when there TROLLS think they can get away with these psyops to attack our great leader JP

go clean you're room, kiddo

So what are the anti-JBP arguments again?

>muh patreon
Nothing wrong with accepting money from people. Just resentment and envy.
>muh rug
Again, nothing wrong with selling things either.
>muh cult
Popularity doesn't equal cult.
>muh JQ
He's careful with his words and he has expressed his concern over saying the wrong thing.
He obviously feels that saying too much about the JQ will alienate some of his audience and only give the left more ammunition against him.
>muh father figure
As far as father figures go, he's not the worst possible choice for someone to have.
>muh obvious advice lol
Good job, obviously you're too high IQ for basic psychological advice.
>muh philosophy brainlet
OK, this is the only valid point. He just embarrasses himself when he goes outside of his area of expertise.

Make your dead.
Incinerate your father.

>in reality capitalism does not reward individualism

You are fucking high

>mfw another character assassination thread
>in all fields

i know right? JP is what we need right now, and these psyop trolls think they can just attack the most BASED and respected philosopher on the internet? exuse me?

these buckos dont know what they've got coming

>mfw these psyop TROLLS think these anti-JBP tactics will work on us

sort your self out, comprende?

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>when he goes outside of his area of expertise.
Thats kind of the crux of what he tells people. The whole "clean your room," mantra. Start with your area around you, move out at a beginners level, build up your area of expertise and stay in it. Pretty sure its directly in that "clean your room" video. Which is why its kind of stupid to expect him to get into racial politics.

I don't get the hate for him. Sure the shit he says is basic, but for someone like me who grew up without a father it's crap I needed to hear. After my dad died my mom was going to school and working full time and I was left largely to my own devices and failed miserably in high school. Barely graduated and like so many others have a filthy room and poor sleeping habits. Listening to what he's said had helped me slowly start getting my shit together. My former therapist never gave me any life advice and wish I had someone more like Peterson when I sought help years ago after I dropped out of tech school and was jobless.

It's the shills. Most threads are started by bots and shadow agency shit. They've been running hit pieces on Jordan Peterson for a while. Msm, the chans, YouTube. You name it.

Most idiots on Cred Forums think it's a reliable place to discuss things. It's not. This place is dominated by kikery. Try other less popular imageboards.

Huh, you said that, and yet you're still poor.

What happened? I thought you had the secret formula...
Maybe you're not as smart as you think you are.

>he doesn't realize mastering the basics is 90% of success

oh my gosh, THANK YOU! i just cant believe therse so much attacks on JP, its all these troll psyopers who think they can just get away with this? UMMM.. I DONT THINK SO, BUSTERS!

were unto to you! yeah, this place is jsut infested with these loser jew PSYOP TROLLS BUCKO"S

they will NEVER ride the dragon into their father's whale hole, they just dont get it

just imagine my SHOCK when all these buckos are attacking the one man who's trying to help them get nutritional soy products and a fantastic testicle washer! (my face in pic, obviously)

why dont they all jsut go back to REDD1T like the LOSERS they are?

I know you're a troll, bucko, but I'd like to just interject and correct you for a moment.
He is not a philosopher, he is a /clinical psychologist/.

>Everyone on Earth has a clean room

Well aren't you a naive one. Have you encountered malevolence yet?

I don't believe you've yet posted a picture of your room.

>when you're a shitposting leaf and even you can't understand that jumbled mess
The fuck?

sometimes simple ideas are the best OP

Your shit posting has been low quality my friend.

oh my GOSH, i am SO SORRY. that wasnt actually me posting, it was my fat redd1t neckbeard LOSER TROLL brother who doesnt even shower or clean his room, i mean, right?

what kind of BUCKO does that? UGHH, these TROLLS are just NOT going to get away with this racist sexist mysoganistic HOOEY, that is just UNACCEPTABLE

UGH, they need to sort out their rooms and buy JP's latest book, otherwise their in BIG BIG TROUBLE

my room's perfectly spotless, and its decorated wall to wall with JP's pictures and i have his own person brand of soylet made by his own secret sauce that i pay extra as a top 10 patreon donor, COMPRENDE, BUCKO?

I bet you have clean rooms and $2k rugs.

I love how he thinks these are actual anti-JBP arguments and that those are valid responses..

It was sarcasm. Re read my post but keep in mind that I am defending JP.

Can you add some new ones then?

You used the rug and "obvious advice" ones here

Dial back the capitalization. It makes you appear to be emotionally involved in this. You've been fairly entertaining up to this point because it looks like you're just having fun and taking the piss out of JP. Try to keep to that air of aloofness.

...

I'll just pull up my earlier post:

> Peterson is a hardened truth-seeker, he's not afraid to go after the truth no matter what!
He is absolutely no such thing. The clip where he says he "just can't" answer about Jewish influence in the Holodomor is not even the most egregious case.
He refuses to debate white identitarians, instead insulting them and calling them Nazis. And speaking of Nazis, isn't the entire point to tell the truth to put things in their appropriate scale? He goes full "Jew lampshades and soap" and believes it unironically.
That's not truth-telling, that's hysteria, and I will get into why he does this later on.

> Peterson is a fighter for debate and free speech
This was soundly destroyed the moment he had any power to deplatform someone and he deplatform Faith Goldy.

Furthermore, his entire opening premise is that people who oppose his politics are confused people who don't have their lives in order.

> Peterson cares about the west and wants to save it
He has a funny way of showing it. You'll notice that he has embedded in his followers' mind the story of the Nazi, the ridiculously over the top "lampshades and soap" caricature that even most historians don't believe, and then proceeded to link all forms of white identity with this.
This is to destroy all forms of ability for white people to resist the enemies who are in fact tribal and fight as a group. That's why JBP followers tend to be the unironic Kekistan flag-waving "look at this BASED black guy in a MAGA hat! SO BASED!" and ignore that 90% of black people are staunchly Democrat and think almost entirely in racial terms.
/r/the_donald loves Peterson, and this isn't an accident.

> Peterson is anti-tribalist
And yet he's a Zionist and has been invited to speak at Zionist conferences. I guess some tribes are okay.

> Peterson is against race realism
But he claims that Jews are ubermensch and their success is entirely due to their inherent superior IQ. You can't be against race realism and believe any race has superior IQ, can you?

> Those who oppose Peterson are anti-capitalist
Probably the most absurd one of all, people aren't upset he makes money, they're annoyed over seeing someone get rich being what we see as a scam artist. We're telling you to stop being scammed by $10 personality tests and $2000 rugs by someone who's less political work is essentially one big deepity covered in a Carl Jung fanfic.

Also, he's Leddit's favorite philosopher apparently. Pic related.
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Oh and -

> He's the best we got
If the best we got is someone who declares himself our enemy, then we're done for anyway.

(ignore the pic related part... Forgot to remove that from the copy-paste)

oh my gosh, look at this TROLL PSYOP LOSER trying to discredit JP with his 12-IQ post. cmon bucko, can you do better than that?

do you even have a clean room? are you testicles even clean?

here, you NEED JP's help, and he's here to help. heres a easy 25% off, psch, dont even mention it

>It makes you appear to be emotionally involved in this
but i am emotionally involved! we cant just let there TROLLS get away with slandering JP, we need to collectively ride their dragon with our whale holes until we sort ourselves out. the soylet will help

>all these bucko's with dirty rooms and unwashed testicles
DADDY YES!

>keep trying, /leftypol/
lol this is the squeal of every faggot fancuck paypig upon hearing the less than cum-swallowing truth about their shitty choice of eceleb favorite. Get off the fucking internet and go live in the real world, stop being a paypig paying frauds for their bullshit. You're nothing but paypigs to them, stop feeding your emotions and resources to parasites like these.

This, ffs, how hard is it to realize this? Why are these fanboys so fucking desperate for father figures and waifus?

Great argument, you completely changed my mind. You have to understand how cucked Canada is and they need to start somewhere otherwise the liberals will continue to stay in power due to their influence on the canadian education system. For god sake man I wouldn’t had ever pondered the JQ before Peterson opened my eyes that ideas deserve to be investigated

oh my GOSH i told you guys already that was NOT ME, okay it was my kekistani alt-right brother LOSER who doesnt bath or clean his room, ever!

i know right?! he just hacked his way into my computer, i saw him code using russian (thats how he got away with it), but i managed to flail my arms at him and scream loudly enough he ran way like the coward he was

without JP's special soylent i was a GONER, now its time to ride the dragon, right brother?

...

More anti peterson shilling. God forbid someone in a field of study writes a book, meanwhile all of his arguments are free on the internet

They've been popping up since that interview got him all the attention