Molotov-Ribbentrop 2.0

Tank forces opens fire.

Spetznaz starts an assault.

Army secure captured parliament defenders. Commie and nationalists lost. Rebellion is over.

Wait can I get a quick rundown? I thought that the communists controlled the army? Come think of it the fall of soviet union starts to seem more and more orchestrated by western oligarchs for profit.

In the UK all the corbyn-istas are redpilled on the JQ more than anyone else in the mainstream, can't stand the stupid cunts though

Frankly it seems like corbyn style labor is infinitely preferable to UKIP as the latter are just civnat thatcherites.

>I thought that the communists controlled the army?

No. Army betrayed the law, betrayed the democracy and people and helped Yeltsin to fight against rebellion. Here is Yeltsin with generals who gave orders to shoot people.

Can I get a more detailed explanation? It seems like yeltsin and co basically forced to union to crash even though the people wanted it to stay.

>Wait can I get a quick rundown?

Any wiki article about it. Nothing secret there. Commies and nazis defended russian laws and democracy when Yeltsin used army to took all power in president hands.

Wasn't there atleast a single tank division that stayed loyal to the communist party?

>It seems like yeltsin and co basically forced to union to crash even though the people wanted it to stay

Yes. People voted for Soviet Union on referendum.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Russian_constitutional_crisis

There are a few good lads in there. Farage is said to be majorly suppressing his power levels and knows exactly whats going on.

youtube.com/watch?v=hYzX3YZoMrs

Russian defence minister sided with Yeltsin and used several nearest army regiments to crush the rebellion. Army is a hierarchical structure and no one general had a balls to start a Civil War. They all betrayed russian people.

Thats so odd. I understand why, after all Russians achieved many great things in spite of Communism and its hard not to feel proud of the Soviet era accomplishments. But still seeing Imperial and Red banners side by side is so strange.

Is Yeltsin still alive? I wonder how he feels about what he did.

get lost commie-kike

>ancap meme flag
I'm a fascist, but I suppose to a bootlicker like you it's all the same.

He is dead ten years ago. And he was perfectly fine about what he did because he achieved his oligarhic clan interests and helped his friends who became rich and powerful.

Willing to ally with one of the main reasons your movement was born to fight against6
Kek. You are either a brainlet who has never studied history or a falseflagger. No actual fascist/auth-right person would even consider allying with commie scum

Fuck, forgot to greentext the first part kek. But my point stands still

Commieshit praising commie-useful idiots for trying to prevent a democratically elected president to get rid of the very same people in the very same commie party who stayed in power and refused to let go.

>Nuh uh, the military was the bad ones
>Our socialist uprising was da bes thing ever
You all need to be gassed.

What happened is the that old commie elite refused to let go of their influence and had their marxist-muscles squads try and stage the revolution, Yeltsin rolled out the tanks and this idiot said it was the wrong decision.

Russia was a mistake.

When fascism was born, Bolshevism was poised to sweep over Europe and subjugate us to the Jew. It was a subversion of the socialist idea and we see how it turned out, softening up the East for Judeocapitalist exploitation. Now all the Jews realized "capitalism with brown people and faggots" is way better for having a bunch of idiot slaves to serve them, and the commies hate that shit too for pushing them out of power on the left.

I'm not saying I -like- them. I'm just saying we have common cause against the Enemy.

Those democratically elected president launched economical reforms that destroyed russian economy and killed 13 millions people here in Russia. So communists and nationalists who tried to stop him was right and army who supported him was wrong. Time just show us who is who.

>ancap flag crying about muh democracy
You know ancap is basically crypto-feudalism under Jews, right?

fascists and socialists are both revolutionary, we need an alliance against jewish capitalism and liberals

>implying the jew is not behind commies anymore
I am not sure how it works where you are, but here all communists are pro-open borders, pro-gay feminist and other kind of pro-AIDS jew stuff. They might hate moderate lefties as well if they lose power, but in no way i'd see them as a "possible" ally tbqh, they are just another kind of cancer.
I'd rather have libertarian-right by my side. Even if they consider the state in a different way as auth-right does, they sure hate all kind of leftist jew policies, and that's fine in my book.

Even being dead is preferable to being a commie shitter.

>Those democratically elected president launched economical reforms that destroyed russian economy and killed 13 millions people here in Russia
Yeah unlike all the other leaders you had before you retarded commiefuck. Figures that you only bitch about the policies of that one tard you guys yourself elected.

> So communists and nationalists who tried to stop him was right and army who supported him was wrong. Time just show us who is who.
Which is why you retarded sheep are now running around and praising both Stalin and Lysenko you dumb fucks.

> It was a subversion of the socialist idea and we see how it turned out
The socialist idea itself was a jewish invention which you conviently choose to ignore.

>I'm just saying we have common cause against the Enemy.
No one believes that, not even you. Again, piss off you commiejew-subhuman.

>defended together democratic parliament
WHAT THE FUCK?

Why would you defend that?

Yeah, we have leftcoms here too. I mean ML, pro-Soviet types, not people who got memed by Trotsky (which is way way way too much of the Western commie left, I'll admit). As to the libertarian right, I dislike them in a way that I really just can't bring myself to do with the commie left which might be why I have this idea.

I mean, fuck, at least the commies stand for something other than shekel-grubbing and licking Jewish boots.

Marx was not the first socialist.

Fuck off kike

I promise I'm not a kike. Maybe a good goy for thinking there's something worthwhile in the communists.

>Yeah unlike all the other leaders

Yeah unlike all the other leaders.

What's y-axis supposed to be?

Millions of people. He also thinks he lives under capitalism.

>it's not real capitalism, give us more power oy vey

Capitalism is an economic system based upon private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.

Russia:
private ownership of the means of production - check
their operation for profit - check

Typical capitalist country.

Pure capitalism just like communism is unattainable (it always results in
neo-feudalism) so just like ussr was communist even though they barely adhered to marx's teachings modern day russia and the rest of the "free" world for that matter is capitalist even though we barely adhere to the teachings of adam smith

>private ownership of the means of production - check
Untill the government decides othervise, so as long as you are one of Putin's friends.
>their operation for profit - check
Minus about half of your income (or how much they tell you to give) if you are not one of Putin's friends. In case you are al your loss shall be covered by tax-paying people.

asdfghjklmoiyuyvub iu

>taxes make it not capitalism
lmao

We need to come out of this witchcraft of blue(nazism) communism(red)

And total control of the government, which implemented the taxes.

>b-but there's a state so it can't be capitalist

Sure.

>Commie Nazis
Pretty sure that's just your average Russian nationalist

Why are there here so many commies and nazi shills? aren't you aware that they are extremist ideologies? you literally are supporting exterminators of the human race

Sargoy pls

This is going to burn. By all likely hood they don't want you here. Being the victim does not make you a hero. Cut the victimhood bullshit. You know what a falsehood is. No you don't because your to distracted by the lie that came from it. If I brake in your house and take a shit on the floor do you clean up the shit or defend your home. No you don't let me shit on the floor in the first place. Stop taking the options your enemy gives you and start making your own.

And what do you support? Some form of liberalism I would guess, how is liberalism not an extremists ideology as well? The answer is of course it's an extremist ideology. Its economic system has killed more than communism not because the state killed people or their were mass famines like in communism but because the economic system itself has to have a class at the bottom suffering and dying. It is an ideology which has caused many the majority of wars since the turn of the century, and hasn't won one since ww2. They indoctrinate their citizens into believing that they're fighting for their nation when in fact they are sent to the sand box of death to die for the wallet of the oil companies. All ideologies are extremist in their beliefs don't try to make out any ideology as some kind of bullshit centrist paradise that isn't "extremist"

This would work.
The reason "muh fascism is capitalism in decay!!!" became a thing and leftists by the late 20s became so opposed to the far right because nationalistic ideologies seeking the working poor were competitors to Marxist-Leninist ideologies.
I always thought Marx would have seen Fascism as a step in the right direction.

I support a democratic system where people can choose freely who rules and where people can have freedom. Now please tell me how comfy it is to live in the US while being a "nazi", I'm sure it has to be comfy as fuck, that you can say whatever you want without the police of thinking behind you

>I support a democratic system where people can choose freely who rules and where people can have freedom.
What does that even mean?

>Thinks we have freedom of speech in the U.S.
That's the lie they tell you, if your speech is not exactly in line with
neo-progressivism then you can be fired from your job and these jobs monitor any of your online activity if you have social media, you can be kicked out of college and be tried for hate crime if they wish. Democracy cannot work and has not worked. But you keep telling yourself that democracy is the way and that you're free or that you would be in the U.S. good luck with that

>Army is a hierarchical structure and no one general had a balls to start a Civil War.
This should serve as an important lesson for Yanks who think the army will be on their side if shit ever hits the fan.

Well if that is what you say... this "neo-progressivism" it's the fault of the reigning puritanism that you have had since forever. And you say "democracy cannot work and has not worked" but the US is a country that has been a democracy since it was created, when in 1776 you claimed the right to be free and get rid of the crown. So I guess that things have not been as bad as you say. It's always been worse in countries that have had dictators

Come think of it I wonder what if the nuclear missile brigades decided to mutiny?

Democracy doesn't do what it's intended to do
>dude what if everyone had power to decide things and the people ruled
Unfortunately that's not actually a good way to run things. Democracy advocates are more suited to Reddit than Cred Forums

Independence in 1776, articles of confederation are implemented, nation is in huge debt, the articles fail. Next the constitution is created however with its creation comes political parties, political parties are the downfall of democracy. Plus we weren't even truly democratic only white land owning men could vote which is not the egalitarianism liberalism and the "enlightenment" theories supposedly believe in plus we have the electoral college so that even these white land owning men don't really have a say and the government is run by an assembly of the most powerful plutocrats who only enact things if it benefits them no matter the cost upon the citizen. Under national socialism germany recovered from hyperinflation and the great depression in 3 years and in another 3 years became the most powerful nation on earth, under communism the ussr avoided the great depression. In the united states we suffered for more than a decade because of capitalism failing in the 1920's our democratic leader put in place a shit ton of government agencies that barely worked, the unemployment rate started rising in late 30's he knew he couldn't fix the economy without war so he embargos oil from japan which of course means less money coming into the US and those workers who sold the oil lose their jobs, Japan attacks us because of the oil and the rest is history. Good ol democracy having to start a war to fix its internal problems.

With the democracy with the right to vote at least you are allowed to change who rules, in case you don't like it, in a dictactorship you just have to deal with whoever is in charge, like it or not

A) look into what fascists propose for government
B) the Politburo had more turnover than Congress
C) pick the blue Jew or the red Jew, goy

Which has the inadvertent effect of reversing any good measures enacted and moreover, creates a rift between people who may disagree, and worse, assumes that people are qualified to pick the leadership of a nation in the first place.
It's objectively a horrible system that you are looking at romantically.

You have the right to choose huh? Well the democratic and Republican parties have ruled for more than a century and many of both parties have been elected. Has anyone seen this change he's talking about, it seems I just can't find it

you are the ones who have a problems with jews, in Europe, and particularly in Spain they are absolutely irrelevant and they have no power whatsoever, I couldn't care less about them, they just mean nothing to me, I just got to know that they were annoying for many people after I came to Cred Forums
if you say so... of course it's not a perfect system and there are always things that can be improved but it's the less worse one, that's for sure. I don't even think you've been to a country where there's a dictatorship, but well i can imagine it has to be so comfy to think like that while you make your life in the USA

>in Europe, and particularly in Spain they are absolutely irrelevant and they have no power whatsoever
lol, lurk before posting

Look... I know that in the US they have a lot of power because they have the control of the media, Hollywood and all that, but here they are irrelevant and the only thing they do is play the victim role, and people just hear about them sometimes when there's a documentary about WWII or when palestinians and the people of Israel kill themselves sometimes, other than that they are basically nothing here (fortunately)

Anyone who isn't a ancap retard who thinks capitalism is somewhat related to tradition or even worth preserving has already understand this. Mass immigration, sexual degeneracy, global lack of values are a product of late-capitalism. Hell, even the pseudo-marxists little SJW shits are a product of late-capitalism.

In truth, marxist and nationalist have identified the same enemy. Wether they call it the bourgeois or the jew, it's essentialy the same person, the enemy of civilization and of good. He just happen to be a bourgeois, and a jew, because judaism is essentialy a class-race. You should read the " jewish question " by Marx in order to understand this.

We have all lived in a dictatorship the west is run by the worst "people" imaginable we know better than anyone the consequences of a bad dictator and have suffered through since the end of ww2. You then may ask why we want a dictatorship, the reason is a good dictator is a paternal autocrat he cares for his people like they are his children and will do anything for them the nation is like his wife and he will do anything to protect her sometimes just like a parent a dictator will have to do things the children (us) don't like even though it's what we need. If you read fascist teachings ,moseley I would highly recommend, then you would know there are safeguards to prevent the wrong man from leading they must be selfless and intelligent, ready for action not talk to help the nation and better the people. In democracy people are more concerned with rights than responsibilities. It's the reverse in fascism, ask not what your nation can do for you but what you can do for your nation.

even if we did have an alliance with /leftypol/ i'm absolutely certain we would just go back to fighting eachother as soon as the liberals are dealt with

What are you even saying... to begin with America didn't even have a dictatorship yet. What about if this dictator you talk about start making bad decisions? who is the brave one who will remove him from power? it's also true that many people ask for rights but they don't want any responsability, but fortunately the majority of people are not like that

You're our vassal state, idiot. If the Jews control America, and they do, they control you.

Well thank you for reminding me that America is the hegemonic country in the western world. Honestly I don't know how you managed to do so jews would have so much influence in your country

You look at things face value without going deeper. Who controls our government? Lobbyists. Who are the lobbyists working for? The 1%, the corporate, banking, and plutocratic powers. Who are these powers? 90% of the 1% are jewish. Why would jews do any of this stuff? Because they have been horrible leaches since their inception thus they were kicked out of every nation they went to this created the ideology of zionism and is whythey put jews above all others and will do anything, no matter the cost of non jews, to better themselves. Our nation is a dictatorship because we are run by an entity which we have no say in. Our vote does not matter what matters is what the zionists want.
A fascist leader must have a background that shows they are worthy. My personal requests for that would be: caucasoid or mongoloid, male of course, over 120 IQ, doctorate in a stem field, seved in the military, has been in a leadership position and performed well, has shown wisdom in decision making, has shown strength of will mind and body, and has been proven to be an honorable and selfless man. These would be safeguards that would prevent the unworthy from leading. If they betray the nation then the military and other governing forces (his cabinet) must publicly execute him (preferably disembowlment) to show what those who betray the nation and people get.

I only spotted one nazbol in this thread are there any actual communists (not those anarcho fags) on pol?

I am very willing to work with them to defeat the kikes and international bankers, we can go our separate ways after we kill this menace that plagues the entire world.

They're around. I think /leftypol/ crashed and burned so some of them came back here.

I can understand, Leftypol got completely overrun by ancoms and neopros

I guess so, so we belong here.

To unasked question. Russian type of nationalism was 'soil', not "blood", because look at the map. "If you think of yourself as russian, speak russian, embrace russian culture, you are russian".

Strasser also said of jews as a class-race, so did Stalin (in his "on national question" work). Bolsheviks also made effort to dejew and assimilate jews. Google "Yevsektsiya".

I honestly prefer leftypol here 100x than the plebbit cancer, e-celebs shills, kekistani and t_D shills, and some underage and degenerates that are closet faggots and jerk off to traps from raids from lgbt and trap chan(?)

Though we have differing views I personally would be okay with having communists on this board especially if we together can kick the anarchists, liberal shill scum, and all the other degenerates this user describes off of here

this is fucking retarted

>I think communists might be our greatest ally.
NO F*CKN WAY.

This