Trump to Introduce Landmark Gun "Control" Bill

Thread from earlier:
OK, Cred Forums,
We're getting the full court press from Soros' teenage Jews from the school shooting. We all know this. These shootings, on the other hand, are becoming more frequent. Yes, we should at least arm the teachers that take a carry conceal class and want to protect themselves and their students; that's COMMON SENSE. Outlawing drugs didn't fix the drug problem, so outlawing guns isn't going to fix that problem either. Plus, the shootings only happen WHERE GUNS ARE BANNED (fact).

Let's say The Trump Administration will introduce landmark gun "control" measures including a competency class by a qualified instructor/test administrator, and a 2 week waiting period for weapons of a set status or higher (Semi Automatic / High Caliber).

In exchange, we'll get Federal Voter ID registration to be completed before midterms, and an ID card that is MANDATORY to show at the polls. Drivers Licenses will no longer count as valid ID at the polls ONLY. The process to obtain this new ID will ensure only citizens vote in our elections.

How does Cred Forums react?

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buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit#.ew1w5ybKx
countercurrentnews.com/2015/07/no-cops-around-man-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops/
myfox8.com/2015/07/27/woman-saved-lives-by-shooting-possible-serial-killer-in-the-head-police-say/
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washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/
chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
frontpagemag.com/point/170254/how-assistant-principal-gun-stopped-school-shooter-daniel-greenfield
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Middle_School_dance_shooting
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Colorado_YWAM_and_New_Life_shootings
foxcarolina.com/story/17251517/churchgoers-subdue-gunman-at-spartanburg-church
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SHALL

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

If you fags attempt further bullshit you'll be executed for treason by armed citizens. Final warning.

BE INFRINGED BY TRUMP

Taking a test to drive a car isn't infringement. Taking a test to go to college isn't infringement. Taking an exam to get your hazmat transport license isn't infringement. Allowing mentally disabled/incapable people buy guns is not "common sense". It's stupidity.

Take a test to get your AR-15. Weed out non-citizens from voting. Seems like a fair and amicable "trade", when in actuality, you aren't trading shit. You're just ensuring only the capable are exercising their 2A rights.

>kike puppet doing stuff for kikes
Just another day.

>If you fags
This isn't even having a discussion. Look at the previous thread and tell me you honestly think an adopted Jew with the last name Cruz is mentally stable enough to possess a firearm.

Honestly, tell me you think that.

...

Come and take em

Tell me if you think Jews should be allowed to continue to perpetrate false flags in order to erode our rights.

How much are you being paid to shitpost here faggot?

Do not reply to troll threads.
Report them and move on.

anything that allows bubba to get his high powered weapon is fine, since he's the only one that is keeping america free

we know these shootings are arranged by high level kikes, the weird mongrel kids have handlers and groomers or something, I don't know exactly how it works, only that it's designed to insure the guilty parties are never exposed

the real solution to all of this is to find the people who are arranging these school shootings, and drag them in front of the mob

How much i might enjoy making fun of burger but this is one war i'll support them in you absolutely cannot take their guns away i'll personally come and shit in your street fucking cunt

If you want gun control leave this country.

Owning a car isn't a right.

The massive devide between red and blue states is going to lead to a civil war. The blue states are headed to complete disarmament while many red states already have no gun laws at all.

Yes it is.
realtruth.biz/driving/supremecourt.htm


THE REVELATION THAT THE AMERICAN CITIZEN HAS ALWAYS HAD THE INALIENABLE RIGHT TO TRAVEL RAISES PROFOUND QUESTIONS TO THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN MAKING AND ENFORCING STATE LAWS.

Hopefully the bill will involve creating militias and teaching people firearm safety.

So now unstable teachers join the massacre!

Great Idea user!

So they aren't even going to investigate this false flag, just tear down the building, i.e. destruction of evidence, and ram through draconian laws against the consent of the people. Good luck with that.

>Let's say The Trump Administration will introduce landmark gun "control" measures including a competency class by a qualified instructor/test administrator, and a 2 week waiting period for weapons of a set status or higher (Semi Automatic / High Caliber).

>In exchange, we'll get Federal Voter ID registration to be completed before midterms, and an ID card that is MANDATORY to show at the polls. Drivers Licenses will no longer count as valid ID at the polls ONLY. The process to obtain this new ID will ensure only citizens vote in our elections.
Now THAT is a good deal, so long as voter id is included and aforementioned weapons can still be obtained. No mental lists - veterans with ptsd would suffer the most. For what it's worth, this is the first compromise that I've seen that I like. And I often parrot "shall not be infringed."

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That's the point. Ownership isn't infringed. I like it.

More like Trump is going to use this to pressure the FBI into changing its leadership in exchange for dropping the bullshit Russia investigation.


He's not going after the guns, he's going after the people that failed to do their jobs and fire/jail them.

Gun restrictions in exchange for illegals not being able to vote is retarded. You're trading your rights for something that should be happening anyways.

Stay mad nigger.

The police were called to that Cruz kids house 16 times and didn't do shit. Imagine those smug jews teasing him about his dead Mom every day. They wanted this to happen. I'm starting to wonder if Jews are demons or something. They like want you to hurt them.

Good reply, actually.

Given how Cruz was Jewish too, can't we just consider this an extraordinary rare case of Jew-on-Jew violence?

No gun control shall pass.
This is a distraction from the fact DACA is going down the shitter in 2 weeks. Lefties too but hurt about guns to realize their pets are going home.
#MAGA

prolly his spoiled kike daughter crying at him to do what she wants again. I voted for him not her. Fucking bullshit.

>In exchange, we'll get Federal Voter ID registration to be completed before midterms, and an ID card that is MANDATORY to show at the polls.

fuck all of this

>you honestly think an adopted Jew with the last name Cruz is mentally stable enough to possess a firearm.
none of my business to determine who is fit or unfit to hold, I am able to determine who is fit to be shot

Do you only have to take the test once?
I'd be cool with that.
Voter ID? YES PLEASE

>No gun control shall pass.
I think they could pass some bill that gives everyone the right to CC regardless of other paperwork held

This. I don’t even fuck around on this one. You infringe on my god given right to keep and bear arms any further it’s on.

>Do you only have to take the test once?
yes you can be denied by some smarmy liberal wearing a suit, don't worry once you're denied you won't be able to apply again

you fucking moron

POO

Seattle and Boston happenings next month.
Put yourself in the screen cap.

Please let Seattle be KILL!

>WHERE GUNS ARE BANNED (fact).
Were guns banned in the hotel in Vegas?

Sounds retarded since in reality people are always going to be able to simply receive a gun as a gift or buy one from some random person off of craigslist in a parking lot somewhere like any other item.

>Let's say The Trump Administration will introduce landmark gun "control" measures including a competency class by a qualified instructor/test administrator, and a 2 week waiting period for weapons of a set status or higher (Semi Automatic / High Caliber)

No

why would this even be a hypothetical scenario? dump has shown himself to not only being a shitty negotiator but a complete fucking retard. you guys are still pushing this le 3d chess meme when your idiotic president has not accomplished one thing he said he would.

those things aren't rights. are you in 8th grade or something?

>Taking a test to drive a car isn't infringement. Taking a test to go to college isn't infringement. Taking an exam to get your hazmat transport license isn't infringement.

None of those is a constitutionally-protected right, except inasmuch as any entrance exam which results in a disproportionately high ratio of white male entrants is generally deemed to violate the 14th amendment, by idiot leftist judges

Honestly I don’t have a huge issue with this other than “great, more fucking licensing” and the fact that it’ll make buying a gun just that much more expensive. It’s not a deal breaker for me if we get something out of it like Voter ID and shut up the gun grabbers for a while.

But it’s not going to do jack shit to fix the problem, and the slippery slope better stop right fucking there.

If this shit passes I start shooting motherfuckers.

Go for it. Of corse we are going to require a "competency class" to get that voter ID card.

This. I am ready for war. One fucking bill is all it takes before I bring this country to it's fucking knees.

it shouldn't be happening but we know that it is, and it would strike a huge blow to the American left if we were to put a dent in the # of them that get through. A lot of us have our guns already, and while that legislation is meandering through congress we'll buy more in record numbers with the old laws .

Price of freedom, there should be no restrictions on weapons.

Not true. I'll be killing Jews and anyone who voted for the bill.

>1 post by this ID

>Trump is a cuck faggot boomer
what else is new
we can't trust Trump to protect our interests as far as we can throw him. his stances change almost every month

There is a National Guard armory down the street. I'll start there.

I'm pretty sure they would want that.

Oy gevalt ishmer, the shills/concern trolls are out in force with this one.

Good, I want it too.

Shall not be infringed cock sucker, don't like it get the fuck out of this country.

They'll just siphon them through sanctuary cities like they already do and get them IDs.
It'll change nothing.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union

NOT ANOTHER INCH

Enforce the laws already on the books

You sound like a nongunz faggot concern shill.

Wait until some plague, natural disaster or humanitarian crisis happens and everyone in the MSM will move on.

Fuck your concessions

We need to start repealing all gun control laws.

yeah maybe. obviously the way it's enforced would be a big part of the bill.

Threatening to destroy"
MY FUCKING SIDES. Believe this shit and you will believe anything.
You've been DUPED! Wake up!

You have the right to travel but it's not a right that you can have a car.

Fuck you shill, Florida was a false flag operation, the shooting never happened, it was a drill.

>the slippery slope better stop right fucking there
How ignorant of history are you? The leftists will never be satisfied. We've already given too much, we need to take our rights BACK, not give more away.

You don’t know what you’re talking about

Restrictions are an infringement

If I have legal status to possess firearms then I have the right to ANY CALIBER.

I hate all you conceding normie faggots. If Newtown and Vegas didn’t move the needle then this won’t either.

How is it infringed?

It’s not a deal that’s ever going to eat made.

You think this is anything except a gun grab? You’re an idiot

What your proposing is turning a right into a privilege. You just can't fuck with it. The scope of gun violence doesn't match the scope of gun ownership especially when you factor in successful self defense so no fuck off.

>I hate all you conceding normie faggots
They are just naive enough to believe slippery slope is a fallacy :^)

>High Caliber
You mean high off the ground?

You'll do absolutely nothing you fucking pussy and you know it. You're guns will be confiscated and after you'll shitpost on Cred Forums like a little bitch. It's so cringe seeing you faggots post shit like this.

>You'll do absolutely nothing you fucking pussy and you know it
Hope you have gas masks.

>If I have legal status to possess firearms then I have the right to ANY CALIBER.
But you don't. I'd like a fully automatic as much as the next redneck.

I knew Trump would be the one to take them away for good.

lmao, fucking LARPers.

You will never lift your greasy asses out of that chair to do a damn thing.

>Trump to Introduce Landmark Gun "Control" Bill
Bullshit. He is doing no such thing. Shill thread

Yes

I’ll take longer background checks and cool down periods for fully automatic firearms. That is the only concession I’m going to make

lmao Trump sold you hicks out.

I dig it.

I mean, I get it. The gut reaction to a mass shooting will always be "take away the guns/AR-15's". But all of this seems to be around major city centers bar a few exceptions like Rosenberg, Oregon. Can't city officials just introduce policy to ban certain firearms within city limits? I'm fine with a State choice to do something

>inb4 Chicago already banned guns and look what happened.

Yeah but nobody can fucking complain now.

Kek this will never go through. California already has stricter gun control than this, and stands to lose the most from voter ID

It will take a group of 50 to 100 to slaughter congress in their seats.

Exactly
>caliber
>full auto
Full retard

This is true. Wanna a concealed carry license in my county in state of Ga? Go to the courthouse, $75 cash only, fill out a form, they verify you are not an ex con, et voila, your license.
Got one and agree with the procedure.

This. I've posted that same link in a previous thread days ago. What the kikes would do is create a new "mental illness" called "GunoPhilia" and write it into the DSM-V, then use that to classify all white men who wish to own guns as mentally unstable. They are already calling us "Gun Nuts" to lead into this.

So I don't have the right to own things comrade?

>lets talk about a thing that hasnt happened and wont happen

I hope they push for this every republicuck who puts in a yes vote for something like this is going to get replaced by a paul nehlen

Tell me where you sleep and you'll find out what a knife is.

it just sounds too fruitless
my inner city is different than inner county, and county takes up residential and schools too, so how far do you ban them?

the blunt truth is that the philosophy and reason behind the 2nd amendment itself far outways the consequence of having nuts shoot people up, you have to find more ways to prevent it, it isnt as common as it's made out to be
in the grand scheme, losing rights to bear arms is becoming england tier, unfree, unamerican
if you dont want guns, move

This.

outweighs derp been awake since dawn

You dont need a car to travel. You dont need college to learn. Killing commies is more fun with a gun.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

That applies to everything except arms.

You have a right to arms, nothing else

Kek I don't think he meant it like that. Technically no, you don't have a right to specifically own a car written into the constitution. Private property is included though.

I have no problem with expanded background checks, and more accountability for them to be updated and shared. The NRA even supports a modest bill that does this. We can probably go further.

false flag does not mean it didnt happen. False flag means it happened under false pretenses, as in deaths happened and kikes put the shooter up to it. An attack which never actually happened is a hoax.

Which ever of the two happened doesnt matter because the goyim arent buying it the kikes really fucked up.

They should make it federal and do away with a state's right to infringe.

Fuck off.
The only gun control that is necessary is everyone carrying. If everyone is carrying, than the odds of a bad guy with a gun killing or injuring many people with said gun, goes down significantly.
It also prevents stupid shit in general because if anyone even thinks that they are about to do something like stealing, robbing, hurting, or killing someone, there will be the thought of "Not worth getting shot for it though."

This really needs to be addressed. The Snead parents were on GMA this morning, and this was never brought up.

Do you really think people on SSRIs should have access to guns, though?

Brandishing or otherwise is banned in almost every major city.

>are you in 8th grade or something?
Are you resorting to the argumentative capabilities of a woman in order to not reach a real resolution to a real problem?

Were slaves allowed gun rights?

I know that's the Ben Franklin argument, and it makes sense. What does taking a test to get a license to possess an AR-15 have to do with that?

Remember:
Your access to these weapons isn't going to be restricted. It will, however, prevent mentally ill persons from LEGALLY purchasing them.

Driving cars and going to college also aren't rights.

What's killing me is LE completely dropped the ball on this with our existing laws so of course the left demands more laws.

Cars didn't exist when the constitution was written, therefore I have a right to a horse and buggy and the right to use the interstate highway to travel. Enjoy your traffic jam when I got to the store to buy a 6-pack during rush hour. Also, computers didn't exist when the 1A was written, sho you don't have a right to shitpost on the internet. You'll have to write it out with ink and quill, then send it to us by horse pony express.

You fuckers need a bullet right between the eyes.

Fucking kill yourself with your intentionally misleading title

The only people this would affect negatively are nigs and niggerish whites that refuse to pay for a license.

US has shut down all mental institutions. At one point, there were well over 100,000 people in mental institutions across the country. Then, the program got shut down. Today, they roam free, hopped up on mental pills that they routinely come off on all their own, or just forget to take.

Think about that.

The constitution does not exist to establish "what you are allowed to have" it exists to establish the binding contract detailing explicit limitations of the power of the government. It is not about me being allowed to own a firearm, it is about the government having no say in the matter.


And even if it did, Trump isnt going to propose such a bill, republicucks arent stupid enough to vote yes on such a bill, any sort of gun ban becoming reality is a commie pipe dream. And neither commies nor kikes win in this timeline..

Fuck off. Give an inch and they always take a mile.

yes we are well aware that we have democrats in this country.

other teachers can shoot the unstable teachers. problem solved.

No thanks, imagine 8 years of Obama but now the Federal Government is in control of the nation's gun laws.

That's good. I have severe depression and I don't want to spend my life locked up. Offer euthanasia for severe treatment resistant depression.

Mentally Ill people can possess enough firepower to destroy you and your family while shopping at WalMart.

Think.

You, read:
I do not disagree with this, but mentally ill people are abusing this right to commit real crimes. What can be done to solve the actual problem of mentally ill people getting their hands on guns LEGALLY?

>I don't have a right to possessions or an education
You do realize this is how you sound, right?

Where does the Constitution mention cars, colleges or transport licences, you fucking retard?!

Yeah, when the fuck are these ass holes going to advocate for a totally centralized criminal database?

There is so little file sharing it’s absurd. That is what is embarrassing for a first world country: we have no real centralized criminal database. Law enforcement agencies nationwide should be required to upload all their information to a central server that can be accessed by all law enforcement. The Federal gov should audit local agencies if they don’t give it up in a timely manner. The names of anyone purchasing firearms should be run through this system as part of the NICS check. If there are any discrepancies then send out law enforcement to do an interview on anyone attempting to illegally buy guns.

This is so much easier than banning and confiscation. Ffs, I feel like I’m the only person who actually knows how to make everyone happy.

Based poo

Wow you should probably give up your gun rights. I point out that the 2A is a deliberate stated right but a car isn't and I need killed?

Also ask anyone with a suspended or revoked license about car rights. Rights can't be suspended. If you get caught driving a car unlicensed enough you will be ordered to surrender your car.

bullshit

No deal on guns. No "control". This is America. We don't mind squeezing trigger if we are forced. Keep in mind the UN said the citizens of America, in an armed revolt, could not be beaten. The military would not have 50% participation from soldiers. They would fight with us. That's when generations of abuse against innocent whites would be addressed. Permanently.

Wow, then all a government has to do is label all of its opponents mentally ill.

Hope you get gassed schlomo

What causes gun violence?

>terrorism
>mental illness

What causes terrorism and mental illness?

The State.

Let's remove our gun rights instead of the State tho...

>Do you really think people on SSRIs should have access to guns, though?
are they American citizens? if yes then sure, nukes, chemical weapons, genetic ones, I don't think anybody should have these but since the Army has to have them so do we

>It'll change nothing.
it will cost the taxpayer a shitload of money that was best left unspent

Actually felons lose their rights to own guns so I'm not sure if it's even a right at this point in it's truest sense. 2A is a privilege too.

You're a Jew, right? Up against the wall faggot!

>I’ll take longer background checks and cool down periods for fully automatic firearms.
checks was how they got their foot in the door last time, no checks, full auto for every citizen

Watch the coastal states ban them in our lifetime.

The Dems shot down a bill to add mental health record to the NICS system because they added an amendment that ended concealed carry reciprocity between states.

The Dems don’t want to solve this problem unless it means ban and confiscation ie a no-go for 2A advocates.

STOP TRYING TO TAKE MY AR AND I MAY BE AGREEABLE

Based poo!

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

and we'll take that voter ID as well, Democrats.

So you have no problem with mentally ill people not having rights to guns. Noted.

No I'm not a Jew faggot. Discussion about what the constitution does and doesn't say doesn't make me a Jew. If it does you're basically on par mentally with SJW's that thinks everyone is Nazis. Grow up.

>you will be ordered to surrender your car.
that depends on the territory you're in, some areas you may be left to drive home, if there was the budget to pull you over to begin with

>Taking a test to drive a car isn't infringement.
you dont have a right to drive a car on public roads
>Taking a test to go to college isn't infringement
you dont have a right to go to university
>Taking an exam to get your hazmat transport license isn't infringement
you dont have a right to transport hazardous materials
Allowing mentally disabled/incapable people buy guns is not "common sense". It's stupidity.
who defines "mentally disabled" or "mentally incapable?"
>Take a test to get your AR-15.
take a literacy test to vote

>check'd and heil'd
Yes, they do. That "pleasebewhite pleasebewhite" smuggie isn't just a meme, every time a right-winger commits a crime, it becomes a talking point for them. Once the shooting starts, they can call for more and more radical solutions, which will galvanize more moderate whites to oppose them.
It's hard to convince a moderate to hate someone, but convince him that someone hates him, and his own hatred will not be long in coming.

At least in that case it's limited to the coastal states.

And I live in CA, I'm well aware of the anti-gun BS. I'm trying to do everyone not stuck in CA a favor by containing the cancer here, I would not want the Federal Gov. controlling all gun laws, not by a long shot.

Not trying to take anything. Basically what you are saying is, the dems don't want to solve the problem of mentally incapable persons owning firearms?

This doesn't surprise me in the least.

Checks are constitutional though because felony status removes your rights to vote and own guns and the state has a responsibility to ensure felons are following the laws

Then you are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome as a result of living under Jewish tyranny. Putting your head in a garbage bag and breathing helium will cure your disease.

>you're basically on par mentally with SJW's that thinks everyone is Nazis
I am able to easily point out that Fritz Thyssen who was murdered after he wrote a book explaining how he and his business partner Allen Dulles were responsible for funding Hitler's nazi party

yes the nazis were funded by the head of the CIA

so why do we even talk about this without bringing up the CIA involvement in the 2nd world war?

why aren't we allowed to talk about who the real nazis are?

Oh I'm aware of different State laws. I'm just saying it can happen and there's no protection against it.

pew pew, boom boom, or vroom vroom happenings?

>Watch the coastal states ban them in our lifetime.
NYC effectively banned them before we were born, probably because jews who lived there were afraid of the leather wearing NYPD gestapo

Like the other user said, it's not my place to judge who is and isn't fit to carry. It's my job to judge who needs to be shot if the situation calls for it. If we had done this from the start, there would already be way less mentally ill people around because chances are high that they would have already tried to do something stupid and would have been shot and killed for it. That takes care of the issue you are concerned with.
But I refuse to take away from anyone the modern equivalent of a sword because everyone has the right to them. All people.

Seattle has been having these mysterious electrical grid failures lately.

>I'm just saying it can happen and there's no protection against it.
you can take over the entire nation by corrupting the sheriff's departments coast to coast

>you dont have a right to drive a car on public roads
You have a right to travel, and you own the roads through taxation.
>you dont have a right to go to university
You have a right to education and to take your dollars and skills to the university of your choice
>you dont have a right to transport hazardous materials
You have the responsibility to be employed, and the be qualified for the job you are applying
>who defines "mentally disabled" or "mentally incapable?"
The medical community (no I don't believe general practitioners should have the ability to prescribe SSRIs; it should be psychiatrists)
>take a literacy test to vote
I'm literally suggesting you prove to be a citizen at the least. Literacy to vote makes sense, too, but we're talking baby steps here.

I agree in principle. But there needs to be some sort of federal protection for those that live in blue states. Apparently the constitution isn't enough. This shit is spreading like cancer.

>That takes care of the issue you are concerned with.
stop presenting logic to criminal terrorists

these people don't give a fuck about anything but power, or else instead of crying over school shootings they would be attending to actual problems where lives can actually be saved, their budgets have zero money for those problems

so you know they're scum concerned only with power, which we knew already, because this is one of those issues

>there needs to be some sort of federal protection for those that live in blue states.
citizens who were previously considered felons can also carry

The right to bear cars and hazmats shall not be infringed

You just got tore the fuck up!!

Faggot, do you not understand that driving IS NOT A privilege? It's your right to travel freely on roads YOU pay for. Owning a gun is the right OF EVERY HUMAN BEING IN AMERICA. Inept or not. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Not Do X, Y, And Z , wait, then permission granted.

>This isn't even having a discussion
There is nothing to discuss. We either have gun rights or we will fight for them.its not our fault some niggress can't raise their kids not to be dangerous psychopaths

kill yourself jew

You just got tore the fuck up again!!

Whoa guys chill. I'm not advocating for taking guns or cars or anything. It's wrong. We are far removed from the protections of the constitution and that's wrong. Chill your tits. I'm on your fucking side. Talking about the current state of things doesn't mean I like it. It's just talking about the way things are. How could we even begin to start changing anything if we can't recognize the way it is?

Trust me, I know. I understand. I'm not playing checkers. The purpose of that post isn't to try and make the OP see the point, it's for others lurking to see the point. There are 160 IPs lurking right now itt and if I can even manage to get through to even one of them, it was a success.

Thatsbexactly what they're going to do, and faggot ass Alex Jones and kikes of the like will help lull everyone into it

>But there needs to be some sort of federal protection for those that live in blue states
In theory it's the Supreme Court, but they're too cucked to take on another 2A case

(((They))) always want a discussion. Time for talk is over. The line has been crossed. WE WILL FIGHT!

I like you. I'd let you fuck my wife while I'm at work.

My question is why are the spooks doing all these false flags during the Trump administration? Why not during the Obama administration where'd it have been much easier to pass gun control, where Obama would have done some EO like DACA? It seems really hasty, especially since we know that the FBI fucked up this one.

lold at your 2 week waiting period crap. weve had constant gun control thats solved NOTHING and were not going to take any more

not 1 FUCKING INCH MORE

I swear to God this is my ex gf...

>There are 160 IPs lurking right now itt and if I can even manage to get through to even one of them
whats the point of talking to Soros' bots? seriously they squished the life out of this place, I hear 8cn is better but not by much, time to take this shit up a notch,

do you know how US foreign policy was successfully changed in the past?

get 50 guys with axe handles, break 50 bank windows in a big city at 2am, spray paint demands, news forced to cover it, policy changes

either that or get people to collect signatures and run for office

where is the how to run for office general?

Freedom was taken long ago, the bankers rule the planer and undermine the country, that ship has sailed.

Wait till Undercover liberal faggots start running guncourses and deny everyone. And HiPa laws PREVENT ANYONE from looking into ones medical history. So who decides who is mentally ill or not

>I'm not playing checkers.
I love this saying btw, my CO is telling me this exact shit all the time,

"don't tell me we're playing chess I know what chess looks like so don't tell me we're playing chess here because I know what checkers fucking looks like"

Same here, except everyone thinks I'm a Jew.

If they're gonna pass some gun legislation, then slip in a lot of shit libshits hate like reciprocity nationwide and ending diversity visa lottery, etc.. etc...Fuck these commies and their our way or the highway mentality.

not under the current climate. thankfully Paul Ryan is aware of this and is sitting on that particular bill and the silencer bill until we can get decent momentum going in pressuring our senators.

Nice.

The LARPers in these threads are fucking hilarious.

You know there are companies which clean up after crime scenes, which one is responsible fro cleaning up after this one? I bet none, they'll just bulldoze it before any potential witnesses are allowed on site.

People are proposing widescale institutionalizing of tge mentally ill. I oppose that.

That's where your wrong kiddo. The militias are ready to Unite under one National Flag over this. You will be snuffed out

>So who decides who is mentally ill or not
thats why we aren't even willing to hear this shit, hand everyone a rifle in high school, teach them to shoot and how serious it is, surprise nobody will get shot, the only thing ruined are democrats and their rap sales once the mystery of firearms is removed from the minds of black youth, oh right thats now power, thats an express lane to trouble for morons

here you can examine this extinct creature here for yourselves

youtube.com/watch?v=H6YvZy_IsZY&t=4s

Sure buddy, sure they are.

I can't fucking stand trumptards.

I honestly don't know why you retards don't just vote for democrats.

>thankfully Paul Ryan
when is this faggot leaving? he said he was leaving, him and pelosi need to fold up shop and leave town because this is about to get ugly

those people are fucking done

Post pic and I'll think about it.

Nice.

There is no right to travel or education anywhere in the constituion. Furthermore licensing of cars only applies to public roads. Not private property.

what did it say before they scrubbed it?

get a cap of it?

What kind of a cunt comment is that? Teachers are good enough to teach your children everyday but not good enough to protect them. Fuck off.

>licensing of cars only applies to public roads.
this is laid on pretty thin law to begin with

>Let's say The Trump Administration will introduce landmark gun "control" measures including a competency class by a qualified instructor/test administrator, and a 2 week waiting period for weapons of a set status or higher (Semi Automatic / High Caliber).

In exchange for voter ID? I could go for that.

>Teachers are good enough to teach your children everyday but not good enough to protect them
honestly who in their right mind would claim any teacher in the US is able to teach their child? thats like admitting you're a fucking subhuman

CT is leading the charge, and Mass.

You have a valid point about the bots, but this site reaches a lot of people. Even more now after the election. If you don't try to reach others than you can't complain about how they turned out. I'm just doing my part, user. Every bit counts. Try not to be so self-defeating about the situation.

>I could go for that.
why would you agree to spend public money that doesn't need to be spent? what are you getting out of this?

criminals won't stop cheating the poll or the gun mandates, best to save money by removing the law around both

ur not white, who cares. your arguments have nothing to do with white people.

You guys' figured out the meme flag part at least

They tried it with Sandy Hook. Didn't really work though.

>Try not to be so self-defeating about the situation.
I'm a pessimist, I know how bad this shit is, when you find that retarded liberal explain to them how if Trump really wanted to he could murder every member of every type of whatever minority group that exists on the globe inside a couple hours, if he is so racist why hasn't he done that? it's certainly within his ability to do this

You chimps honestly need to be purged. You're as bad as democrats.

I'm with you. An all Kike Highschool with kids that sound like they've been givin scripts. Not one tear since shooting. DEEPFAKES could have been used to provide Snapchat vids. Bodies in hallways when everyone was in classrooms.... hmm IM FROM CT. I dug into Sandy hook from the minute it happened. So many similarities here. 1 Being the massive response by police so quickly. Also 2 news choppers were In the air 15 minutes before shooting started. They're DEFINITELY coming for the guns over this one,

I would like to believe that, but he has not fired anyone other than Comey, and he needs to fire just about everyone on the seventh floor. Also, that rod rosenstein needs to go.

Unbearably aweful. There must not be any form of “gun control” from a republican.

No real constitutionalists left. All Rinos and Israeli trump gorrillas

If enough people in Florida got together in a crowd and just went into the school with cameras rolling I bet there's be no blood or evidence of any shooting. No debris splattered on the walls, nothing. When people get shot with high-velocity rifle rounds stuff goes everywhere, very messy.

>Federal Voter ID registration to be completed before midterms, and an ID card that is MANDATORY to show at the polls

The fact that there is even something about this to negotiate is utterly baffling to me. I will end up on the police station if I am out without my ID.

That was one. There seems to have been a ton of shootings in Trump's tenure for some reason or other.

Hey dumbfuck. The AR 15 is an exceptionally LOW caliber weapon. Its .223 which is effectively the same caliber as a 22LR.

Voter ID is literally the only thing that will keep Democrats from stealing future elections. Get that through your skull.

It's imperative we institute it, so requiring that people own guns be trained how to properly use them and a making people wait a week and a half to take posession of a firearm seems like a fair price to pay in order to save the republic from fraudulent elections.

Thanks for bringing that up. Now where does that leave shotguns?

That's a false dichotomy. Allowing illegals to vote is already illegal. Enforce the law. Period.

All those things are in the constitution?

Maybe I should reread it......again

>Voter ID is literally the only thing that will keep Democrats from stealing future elections.
democrats being themselves is the only thing that will stop them from stealing future elections, the more corrupt they try the harder they fail,

when you are in this situation the only thing you can do is collect evidence and keep pushing, eventually they collapse under public opinion and the weight of the evidence

How on earth do illegals end up on the voters role in the first place?

>Enforce the law.
all you have to do is line up the voter rolls and see if the count totals match, if they don't prosecute those people and bar them from serving again

simple shit

>ask rich fags at club what can fix gun violence
>rich fags tell you that poor people shouldn't own guns

*roll

Hey shithead. Do you even monitor congressional action on current bills? If you did you'd have noticed that they HAVEN'T EVEN FUNDED BASIC OPERATIONS FOR BATFE FOR 2018.

Now, given the fact they can't fund their basic agency to enforce the most basic gun laws we have NOW, what do you think are the chances you get your new draconian shitbird gun ban passed? Huh? I'm thinking the probability is something like negative infinity.

>How on earth do illegals end up on the voters role in the first place?
democrats who pay them minimum wage enroll them in states where voter laws are law or non existent, some places non citizens can vote legally apparently

OP has a bad deal. Immigration is always amnesty now, enforcement/border control never. National voter ID would get tied up in court to die a slow death (if they even bothered making it law), but gun prohibition would sail through and be enforced in a draconian fashion in no time at all. No compromise for lying assholes dealing in bad faith. You have to put up your end first, before we give anymore ground on arms.

>they HAVEN'T EVEN FUNDED BASIC OPERATIONS FOR BATFE FOR 2018.
good, will they finally stop borrowing money?

Voter ID is that important, and public money should be spent on it. Democrats are going to steal elections for generations without it.

And to require gun owners be properly trained? Why not? The waiting period is yeah, a sticking point, but think about the overall picture re: voter ID and how democrats rig elections.

Also, Dems won't be incentivized to grant amnesty or promote open border policies if their imported constituancy can't vote.

>No compromise for lying assholes dealing in bad faith
I have compromised as much as I am going to not shooting them until now

Oh yeah? Who makes the test? What does the "test" entail? Fuck off.

q predicted this

So institute it you fucking brainlet.

The 2nd amendment isn't fucking negotiable. What kind of retard wants to give the democrats their first legislative victory on guns in the last 24 years while the republicans control the entire fucking government?

>Voter ID is that important, and public money should be spent on it.
I disagree, it's a wasted move, if you can pull off one thing 2nd amendment is the most important not this voter law thing which only wedges further

we won't be able to prevent dems from counting illegal votes in their territory

thats a long term problem,

>What kind of retard wants to give the democrats their first legislative victory on guns in the last 24 years
the only thing that pushes that into reality is the assassination of a popular sitting president, Trump isn't popular enough yet

It's not just illegals though. It's Democrats sitting in the back of a polling office in Broward county falsifying stacks of ballots, thousands of absentee ballots going to one address, etc. etc. There's a lot of different forms of voter fraud that a national voter ID would prevent. It's not just illegals.

The BATFE have all their proceeds from cigarette smuggling operations, they don’t need tax dollars to keep trampling on citizens civil rights at FY2017 levels.

>states where voter laws are lax or non existent
>non citizens can vote apparently
That’s insane. So how do you get onto the voters roll? By simply pitching up to register? No passport required? Surely there must be massive voter fraud that’s just being glossed over.

>There's a lot of different forms of voter fraud that a national voter ID would prevent.
aren't all these types of fraud easily prevented by enforcing existing law?

>simply pitching up to register?
yeah in CA I hear they do that in some districts

Enforcement of existing law would prevent this, but killing all of you Jews and deporting all the shitskins would be the real cure for this disease.

I don't support mental health screening, it would severely infringe upon the self defense (which includes suicide) of mentally ill people. Not fair for them to be defenseless and condemned to live. Pass nationwide free assisted suicide in return and I might support it.

I am pretty sure Trump remembers his school days where he could bring his rifle to school and have no problem with it, also no one shot anyone because everyone had gun training at a young age just like you would with any other TOOL!

GUNS ARE TOOLS, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS! Why do you expect guns to be regulated and not a hammer or a screw driver or a chainsaw or do I have to wait 2 weeks to get my chainsaw too?!

What happens on Election Day in places without voter ID laws? Do you just claim to be Hernandez Sanchez and get handed a ballot paper? How do they regulate that some dead person isn’t voting?

It's cheaper to just do voter ID than to do what - station (bribeable) officials at polling stations to watch the chain of custody and check to make sure people are voting legally?

i just tell them my name and sign a booklet.
you should have to use id
it makes no sense not to use one.

Pretty much. Lots of dead people vote in the US, especially in places controlled by democrats. It's not uncommon for the number of ballots cast to exceed the number of registered voters.

Well. Trump could sign some over-reaching gun control laws, and then just wait for the Supreme Court to strike it down.
>We still get voter ID laws.

what happenings?

Don't they do this in Switzerland? Used to be firearms and shooting were school sports before the DoE took over everything.

Doesn’t anyone mark your name off on the voters roll? How do they prevent you from voting twice?

Democrats literally bus people from polling station to polling station so they can vote multiple times. Half the country doesn't bother to vote in the first place. They take a name, cross you off the list, and then you vote.

It's beyond retarded.

Seriously, read the fucking thread.

South African bro, let me explain something to you about Democrats...Try and enforce the law to have them play by the rules and they will scream racist at you. Republicans cuck out because they're scared and let the illegals vote while looking the other way. Truly pathetic of them.

>Outlawing drugs didn't fix the drug problem, so outlawing guns isn't going to fix that problem either.
>Plus, the shootings only happen WHERE GUNS ARE BANNED (fact).

"Can't fix the problem" says only developed nation where problem still exists.

>what happenings?
youtube.com/watch?v=Apv9Kgkf-z8

i mean, my name is already listed, and i just sign next to that. i live in a pretty small town, so im not sure how it works other places. i would think if people are voting more than once someone at the poling place would be helping them do it

Nigger, the proposition was voter ID in exchange for training people how to shoot and waiting 10 days. If that deal were on the table I'd take it vs. no voter ID at all.

Yes, 2A is not negotiable but this is a hypothetical. Are you telling me you'd just walk away from the deal and fold your arms while Democrats rig the next 50 years of elections and decimate our population with the European model of importing "migrants" to vote? And then what? The country is fucking destroyed by invaders.

Oh and don't think those fucking dems won't shred the 2A in the process.

That’s insane. The same way that the democrats throw statistics about country x has strict gun control and zero homicides ever at you guys, you should throw country x has strict voter ID laws and zero accusations of election fraud back at them.

because your stupid nigger ass just thinks the problem is guns, yet your people are beating and murdering eachother at the same rate without them. but who cares if its not with a gun right achmed?

you have no competency to claim jurisdiction over another person
your health care shit that trump isnt taking of either is really to let insurance control your health. they have no interest in your health. your always working ot make money for someone else.

fuck you and your gun grab shit your a bunch of faggots that if shot would make the country better. you faggots pretend they have to have one interest to do something when they can have the other and in your cases, are always false flagging the interests

This is the entire point of the thread. Bill Clinton fucked up with the "features" ban. That's not even being brought up here. Just a 2 week wait. Your rights as a gun owner aren't being infringed at all this something like this. In return, the federal government "alleviates" the states of their obligation to enforce voter ID laws.

The reason it can't be enforced right now is because the states are fucking this shit up hard core. Every blue state in the union would magically become purple/red if sweeping Voter ID laws were put into affect in return for a "wait list" on CERTAIN TYPES of weapons.

false flag no real interest in the topic at hand want to pretend its ok. we dont care what you think no more. never did anyway you just false flag and use fake propogandists to push your side

I will ignore any of these bullshit fake laws

You can't when states refuse to do it. Read: Educate yourself as to how different states fuck up voter rolls. It will infuriate you. A 2 week waiting list, on the other hand, won't harm you in the least.

*tips fedora*

fuck you false falgger no interest in the topic and use something else ot push your narrative as usual becuase you have zero consistency

something something cake, something something last slice, something something now you want the crumbs.

the discussion already happened. your bans and laws did nothing. all you seek is domination over the serfs. fuck you. kys.

>Take a test to buy your AR-15
>Take a test to buy your glock 17
>take a test to buy your ruger 10/22
>take a test to buy your 22 derringer
> take a test to buy ammo
>take a test to buy primers, powder, bullets
> take a test to see if you qualify for the test
>no more tests to be given out.
No grandfathered guns since everyone's are now on file and when they die they are collected by the local sherrif.
50-60 years and only the people who liscensed their firearms are now the ones without them.

Time for your meds and a refresher on where the shift key is located user.

Already infuriated, thanks!

Insanity doesn't even begin to describe it. Psycho pathological is a more fitting term from my observation. We're trying to fix it but who knows, we'll see I guess.

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>who liscensed their firearms are now the ones without them.
if swat comes for you then they will be justified in using deadly force because you have a weapon registered

What are their arguments against voter ID laws? Surely they can’t say that it is to further their own agenda? How do they spin it?

post tits

Just get nukes banned first then we can work on the small stuff. Also, shooter is responsible and he did it. Also ban TV since it does nothing to encourage education.

RACISM

Literally RACISM!!!

Except you're making a different argument now. My point was it's bullshit that you can't get rid of guns and gun attacks, you just don't have the will to. You switched that to "no but people still die anyway". Stupid burger.

And even your different argument is dumb because the US has x5 and x16 the murder rate of the UK and Japan.

I've received a ton of friendly fire in this thread, but this takes the cookie. Have you even considered how many illegal votes would be wiped off the docket once you agreed to sign up for a 2 week wait list for CERTAIN TYPES OF GUNS? I'm also still convinced that there are individuals out there that should NOT be armed like this.

You don't give a "right" to procreate to persons with severe mental disabilities (or it is VERY frowned upon), but you'd let those same people possess firearms?

You've seen South Africa, right?

Das rayciss. People can't afford a $15 ID, das rayciss. Reminds me of the poll tax, das rayciss. Typical jew talking points.

How many armed teachers would use a shooting as cover to cap Tyrone & other disruptive nogs who make their job hell?

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Kill yourself already faggot.

you guys are pushing the
voting shit now. pushing this along with it, pretending you have some backing from some type of interest we had, like illegal voting that costs elections. now your like, wow everybody agrees that we of course caused the deaths by whatever you phathomed, so your going to push it and use this as a catalyst for your propoganda. fuck you your a liar a shill and should be hung for treason
this topic is dicksucking niggers. i guess next you want to stop certain people from posting topics as well and cherry pick on those. fuck you

>Owning a car isn't a right.

Actually, if the government banned me from driving for 6 million years, I would still be able to purchase as many cars as I could afford.

Therefore, owning a car is a right.

I'm late not just voter id, but live stream of watching poll collectors and have people check individuals who do mail in ballots and other things I'm not thinking about

My reaction: you are one of the jewteens.

What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do you not understand?

How on earth can they claim it’s racist? I live in a fuckin’ nigtopia filled to the brim with illiterate fucktards and the word racist gets used at the drop of a hat. Yet, the rules for voting are quite simple:
>be 18
>have ID
>register on voters roll
>show ID at polling station
>get your thumb marked with pen so that you can’t vote again
>mark your cross on ballot
>no black fee-fees hurt in any step of the process

>their dark humor seems to blend
you can always tell by their agenda or askign a question or two. they can never have a reason behind what their doing that isnt selfish.

but yea i agree with all this, saved. heard it before seen it, figured that out. just forget it trying ot go through without wirint down eveyrthing

Disparate impact i.e. it’s racist and discriminatory to ask people to get a free government ID because poor, working, and minority people have a harder time getting them than people who possess personal agency. Taking a bus, asking for time off, having a piece of mail with their name on it, all that is too difficult to do so we have to have elections less secure than the third world bombing ranges we “liberate” with regularity.

Those are privileges, the 2nd is a fucking right, bestowed by our fucking creator, you fucking faggot.

Seek help user. Your mind palace is an outhouse.

or as to me, they believe that modern medicine isnt a right that i have to, at least in hillbilly land. im gonna bring that out in the news if i have to

Go read the BILL OF RIGHTS you inbred proxy-abusing retard.

You Will Be Infringed!

MY KID HAS A RIGHT TO GO TO SCHOOL AND NOT GET MURDERERED!

no compromise, you fcucking liberals are literally snakes, preying on the trauma not one day after.

trump is a shill, like you too, like noone cares about voting or national id. they midght as well make mark of the beast. remember the TALK ABOUT IT? your trying to connect two things that go together with this shill trump who you think people think hje's cool or something. only reason your opening your jew mouth

haha so this. Our hypocrisy as the bastion of the free world is staggering.

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You're welcome. Already ready to help inform others regarding the Jewish menace.

Lets get the purple finger ink and at least the perception that the Government WANTS a clean election before we go bandying about with trading gun rights for voting protections.

The left LOVES to exploit children.

>WHAT IF
>WHAT IF
>WHAT IF
>WHAT IF
>WHAT IF

the state has no business to say anything about it.

And the answer is no you worthless fucking cuck.

You'll be the one who gets infringed. We have the guns you don't.

None of these are valid reasons to not seek out the means to use your vote. Cutting off access to these people would be a favor to the entirety of the electorate process. Your 2A voters aren't going to miss an opportunity to vote for their candidate; which is why my OP in a win-win.

Apparently, there's a ton of folks on here that are too obtuse to see this.

If our nignogs that live in third world squalor in a mud hut or tin shack can get a fuckin’ ID and pitch for voter registration days, surely your somewhat better nigs can do the same?

It's not friendly.

You are literally the enemy.

You guys are tinfoil level at this point:

buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/10-potential-mass-shootings-that-were-stopped-by-someone-wit#.ew1w5ybKx
countercurrentnews.com/2015/07/no-cops-around-man-with-concealed-carry-permit-stops/
myfox8.com/2015/07/27/woman-saved-lives-by-shooting-possible-serial-killer-in-the-head-police-say/
thefederalistpapers.org/uncategorized/uber-driver-with-conceal-carry-permit-stops-mass-shooting-in-chicago
foxnews.com/us/2015/07/27/man-shot-and-killed-by-west-virginia-escort-eyed-in-possible-serial-murders/
washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/25/women-who-shot-alleged-attacker-may-have-slain-a-serial-killer-police-say/

Fact Sheet: Guns Save Lives - gunowners.org/sk0802htm.htm
Clackamas mall shooter faced man with concealed weapon - kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/24/12405148/

controversialtimes.com/issues/constitutional-rights/12-times-mass-shootings-were-stopped-by-good-guys-with-guns/
100percentfedup.com/watch-angry-school-shooter-is-stopped-by-brave-woman-with-gun-media-ignored-story
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Culwell_Center_attack
washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/10/03/do-civilians-with-guns-ever-stop-mass-shootings/
chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-uber-driver-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
frontpagemag.com/point/170254/how-assistant-principal-gun-stopped-school-shooter-daniel-greenfield
businessinsider.com/uber-driver-with-concealed-handgun-prevents-mass-shooting-in-chicago-2015-4
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Middle_School_dance_shooting
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_School_of_Law_shooting
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Colorado_YWAM_and_New_Life_shootings
foxcarolina.com/story/17251517/churchgoers-subdue-gunman-at-spartanburg-church

1st: Cred Forums is not precisely the right place to support middle-ground solutions.

The same act should outlaw "Gun Free Zones", and make mandatory at least 5 teacher/couch/sec.guard per school CCW and be trained.

2nd: The Dems will never agree. They want AR15 banned. It's about what can they sell in the news, not what's useful to stop school shootings

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No, they cannot. If that happened then they'd not be able to be bussed around from voting station to voting station in exchange for a pack of smokes and other free gibs.

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