Explain how this is okay

Explain how this is okay

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Who cares

The guy who doesn’t make that in a lifetime believes he’s gonna get 72 virgins that’s worth way more than 80,000.

American corporations don't give a fuck for individuals that don't make them money in the long run. We are all cogs to the machine

Because I like shooting big things and watching dirt people explode

>fiat has real value

stupid pawns

Because the people it's used against are unnecessarily belligerent to westerners.

>but oil industries
Built by westerners, are you some sort of national socialist that you believe the countrymen should benefit from something someone foreign built? They didn't pay for it. They're not running it.

The real fun happens when oil and fossil fuels just aren't a thing, the 2100s will mean the greatest middle eastern threat since the Barbary pirates. They'll be so poor and resentful that they'll attack western soil and kill innocent civilians randomly and without any justification.

Want to know what's fair? You reap what you sow, the west sowed oil fields and reap profit. The middle East sowed sectarian violence and reap war.

The javelin is a firefight wining weapon

the argument is literally
>and thats not ok
how is any of this relevant?
I'm not going to shill for american foreign policy, but winning a war is bigger than the sum of it's parts and it's not at all dependent on some cost-of-weapon to pay-of-soldier ratio.
I hope Sebastian Junger isn't considered a smart man. wew

You don’t fire the Javelin at “a guy” dickshit. It’s a fire-and-forget anti-armor weapon.

>at a guy

aren't these things used to blow up vehicles and shit like that

>someone is using something that costs more than whoever is using it makes in a year!
The same shitty logic can be applied to
>someone is flying on a plane that cost more to make than one person makes in a lifetime!
>that's outrageous!

repill me on the cost of weapons manufacturing
There is no way a missile costs 8x more than a high end car. Who is profiting off of this? There must be 1000x markup of those things.

It is funny you say that. My brother probably expended $250,000 worth of munitions as a Infantry marine. He was a machine gunner in a weapons company that had higher training requirements than others I believe a victory company? he would fire entire Humvee loads of ammunition in a day of training, got to fire dozens of SMAWS and all kinds of other cool shit.

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The weapons are made in USA, its not hard to figureout m8

What the are you on about? It’s an anti armor weapon that has to lock on to a target before it’ll fire. You don’t just point it at some rocks and shoot.

This, what the hell

faggot posts bait
people fucking respond
holy shit just sage these bait threads you fucking retards

>high-end cars cost $10k

Saves lives.

0352 is the laziest MOS in the infantry, they should have gotten rid of TOW gunners before Assaultmen

>There must be 1000x markup of those things.

Yes an no. The markup is huge because government will pay whatever ridiculous prices that weapon manufacturers set, but a lot of that cost is to pay for the labor, fees, interests, and taxes that go along with funding and designing such weapons, only for them to expire in a few years.

You’re forgetting R&D. It’s predecessors were either unguided or wire guided. It’s not like you just rock up to Raytheon and say: “Yo dawg, build me a stinger for tanks.” The peope you’re buying the, from have to figure out how to build the damned things in the first place.

And stop saying “redpill me on”. It makes you sound fucking retarded.

>Explain how this is okay
Dead Muslims?

Join the army goy

we love israel WE LOVE ISRAEL WE LOVE ISRAEL WE LOVE ISRAEL WE LOVE ISRAEL WE LOVERSRAEL IW ILE LOVER ISRAE LWE LOVERISERAL WE LOVE ISSREAEL WE LOVE RISAERG

Ignoring the fact that javalins generally aren't used as anti personel weapons

>Each Boeing 747 cost $40 million flown by a goatfucker whose whole country won't make that in a year and crashed into a building that cost over $1 billion

Explain how this is okay.

so give the $80k to terrorists?
great idea

Just because our """enemies""" were secretly """funded""" by the jews, doesn't mean they are rich. It's just multiple layers of money as cover, just so Israel can take over more land and cause bloodshed to show their dark lord.

THE DEFENSE IS YOU LOVE ISRAEL

>You don’t just point it at some rocks and shoot.
You can do that and it has been done even if it's not particularly cost effective.

I fly a $88 million airplane and won't make that in a lifetime, your point is?

>what is R&D
>what is getting limited who you're allowed to sell your product to
>what is developing a tailor made product
>what is long and extensive testing
>what is building a special production lane for one very limited product

FPBP

/thread

Are you retarded? You don't fire Javelins at people, you fire them at tanks that cost $2,500,000+. Also, if you have an army of over a million people, you can't pay each one of them $80,000.

I'm also fairly certain soldiers are happy to be given weapons that can stop a tank.

Not to mention the overhead of dealing with bureaucracy. If it's anything similar to government IT, at least 80% of a contractors expertise is dealing with the government, and about 20% in outdated technology that they ostensibly exist to provide.

they could give him a stick as a weapon and pay him the 80.000 but I don't think he would live long with only money as his defense

F-15?

>man is hired to use expensive and highly technical machinery to do a specific job
>gets paid a wage to do so
>wtf why doesn't he make more than the machinery is worth???

A guy earning $5 a month can kill hundreds and cause damage in the ranges of millions, so what?

Each soldier is worth hundreds of thousands, considering how much the government has to spend to train them. Just because they don't see all that money doesn't mean they aren't worth it.

It's a missile meant to destroy tanks that cost way more than $80000. Also, if use of such ordnance keeps your soldiers alive, it's cost effective because it means you don't need to spend your manpower that ultimately costs way more than $80000.

red capsule me on secret R&D

>Opinion stated as fact
Wow, that's deep.
Now tell me about how foot soldiers all owned their armor and pikes.

Im so confused do they want the army doing cartel style executions on isis? Is that better?

Fucking retarded, an MRI technician makes 50k a year using a machine that costs 160k at a minimum

Sure a javelin missile isn't an MRI machine, but the point is still the same. Also the Javelin is an anti-TANK weapon, not an anti-personnel weapon

Actually, the weapon in OP’s pic is Swedish made, IIRc

That's an awesome demonstration for ejection seats.

It's a good price considering the $80000 ensures safety and reliability. Any soldier firing Javelins has a chance of earning more than that through promotion or working in the private sector. The target could be a general or elite mercernaries making $80k+.

Fast food workers making minimum wage can regularly handle $80k worth of product on equipment worth several times that. Pretty weak argument imo

When your the guy using the weapon it is worth every penny, when your the guy on the receiving end, well sucks to be you.
Gotta kill you enemies some how right?

As it’s got a guidence system so it can fire in the first place and when it fires it immetiately goes vertical so it can pound the lighter armored top parts of the target, how the fuck do you get it to shoot at a bunch of rocks? Or are you lighting the rocks on fire first?

This is purposefully misquoted you shill sliding poz nigger
There was a much more optimistic ending to it.

It isn’t, army let politics get in the fucking way again. They could have already perfected the XM25 by now and blowing filthy hadjis up with airbursting grenades instead of infrared fire and forget top attack missiles. If you want to blame none it should be the MIC and how they keep pushing more expensive shit and sabotaging pragmatic stuff that would actually work better.

>literally we dindu nuffin

It's not a general saying this or ex military Its a liberal filmmaker

The only thing more expensive than a first rate military is a second rate military. Countries that forget this fact always suffer.

I used to work at a credit union and was in charge of a vault with 1.5mil in it
hundreds of thousands of dollars passed physically through my hands every day

OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

On the contrary, the west is a victim of its own success and the middle East resents them out of laziness. Build your own oil fields or don't complain.

Because small arms bullets can't kill a fucking tank

it would be outrageous if the man firing the javelin wasn't a willing participant and the other man wasn't a terrorist

Fucking ouch. If that was an induced stall for some airshow, I don't know what to say.

What secret? If you’re thinking that defense contractors gold-plate the shit out of everything, gouge as much as possible, and probably bullshit the costs: probably.

None of that changes the fact that they have to invent products that might not have even existed, create tooling, infrastructure, and techniques to manufacture and test all this, and then have an extremely limited customer base. Some things they might not be able to sell to anyone other than the US government. At best, the US and her allies. So, again, governments (for the most part). And, just for kicks, the whole project may get scrapped before it’s finished. Building new weapons ain’t easy nor cheap.

>Javelin is a fire-and-forget missile with lock-on before launch and automatic self-guidance. The system takes a top-attack flight profile against armored vehicles (attacking the top armor, which is generally thinner), but can also take a direct-attack mode for use against buildings, targets inside the minimum top-attack engagement range, and targets under obstructions

>implying Javelins are standard-issue
Stop playing Call of Duty. Those are anti-tank weapons that also double as next-gen mortars. They rarely see use even in normal combat because hajis don't use tanks or helicopters, and even in the off-chance they somehow get their hands on one it's usually easier to just call in an airstrike. OP is a faggot.

>t. armyfag

Actually its fired at multimillion dollar tanks and armor

>national socialist
I don't think this means what you think it means.

Read War is a Racket by Smedly Butler.
Government is contracted to pay whatever the military industrial complex charges for supplies.
Government takes public money and spends it with companies which supply military. Politicians own shares in companies which supply military. Companies which supply military set their prices with no government oversight. Politician who owns shares in company makes public money into private profit.
Read about the contractors which built American bases in iraq. Trucks with simple faults were burned on the side of the road because"profits" if you just order another truck rather than repair.
Bulldoze computer equipment into hold and burn rather than re-use, because more supplies means more profits.
Military industrial complex, circular logic etc...
Hence $80k missiles.
There was a slide show of an Iraqi base where a soldier commented on the black hawk helicopters "this is where we convert US dollars to noise"
The hourly rate of military operation takes tax/public funding and fills the profit margins of private companies owned by the people who make military decisions.
Make sense?

how does that make it not a firefight winning weapon?

Agreed I wonder why these American dipshits can't conserve their specialized assets when rifle is fine

The guy firing it is having the time of his life.

you could get a pretty sweet car for 10k. like a 350z at least

No shit. I stand corrected. Thanks.

the life insurance policy of a soldier is $400k. it's more economical to launch an $80k rocket at a shitskin that could kill 1 or more soldiers.

Also fuck 0352s

>t. 0331

Weak Russian engines

Jews make big money it. That's how it's ok

Because no one refers to shooting at armor as a “firefight”.

This.

Muh dick. That's literally it. When you've got it, you show it off. Reminds the hajis that they live only because we allow it, and that if we took the gloves off, they'd be known as 'glass niggers' instead of 'sand niggers.'

we'll just kick their shit in for dem sweet cobalt and lithium deposits instead

It’s not ok... and the reason it happens is because of fucking bureaucracy and statism

I don't know the specifics of how it handles targeting personnel or structures but it was used in an anti-personal/fortification role by US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. Presumably it's sensitive enough to target individual humans and has the ability to designate them as targets.

Because the oil is worth more than the target's entire legacy.

That's actually not the quote:
>a javelin costs 80K, and the idea that it's fired by a guy who doesn't make that in a year at a guy who doesn't make that in a lifetime is so absurd it almost makes the war seem winnable

Guy who pulls a trigger vs countless years of study, R&D, parts, code, teams of people working together...

Quick, someone post the costs of muslim suicide bombers

best post

>at a guy who doesn't make that in a lifetime

He meant hypothetical lifetime, right? Motherfucker could be Bill Gates, he ain't gonna make 80k between having a Javelin being fired at him and being dead.

> One post by this ID.

People operate expensive machinery all the time. Mines, construction, manufacturing, power generation, processing plants... why should military be any different? Does he expect fight pilots to be able to affors their own jets? Sailors to afford by their own ships?

It's because Governments never pay their fucking bills on time, and by that I mean, there is up to a TEN YEAR GAP between a Government Institution ordering masses of goods and final fucking goddamn payment. Everyone who contracts to any Government organisation knows they won't get paid nearly on time and so everything has to be padded to fuck and back to even begin to fund the supply of the next requested orders. Sure, it's lucrative as fuck in the long run but Daddy Warbucks has to play a verylong game indeed if he wants to finally retire a billionaire. Same for Public Healthcare, it's why the hand scanning system for employees of the NHS (approximately £30 of electronics + installation per hand scanner, usual distribution is 10 units) costs £100,000.

capitalism, baby

>70 virgins

Why don't I make $325,000/year? I drive this for work, I mean c'mon...

It's leftist bullshit, OP. It makes no sense to pick out a weapons system which is rarely used and say shit like that.

Has this Junger twat devised a plan to disengage from AfPak? Or when Pakistan Jihadi government nukes the world he's gonna go "Oh I didn't know this could happen I'm just a leftist moron spewing ignorant communist nonsense"

>Does he expect fight pilots to be able to affors their own jets?
Imagine if they did though. You'd only have sons of wealthy aristocrats flying jets, presumably painted in their family colors and if they got shot down they'd be ransomed back.

guess we should stop sailing boats and flying planes too...

Kek

I think they get that idea already from the presence of air power and armour units
I can't see the justification for using a javelin when grenade launchers or if you do need to go big, at least a carl gustaf will suffice

His real pay is being able to fire a Javelin dummy. Most people only get to use those shits in MW2

>1 post
SAGE

LOL

The only part where this is stupid is when the American establishment steamrolls a country and then for some reason doesn't take over their natural resources. There's nothing to gain by blowing up sand niggers. Either wreck their infrastructure periodically in revenge for 9/11 and then laugh as they starve, or wreck their infrastructure and take economic control, or wreck their infrastructure and kill all their males. You literally cannot conquer a nations people unless you are actually improving their lives or you take and brainwash their children.

Read 1984. Listen to Eisenhower's warning about the military industrial complex.

Basically all our excess productivity isn't going to make our own lives better. It's wasted on weapons to keep us subjugated.

Capitalism is garbage

>Read War is a Racket by Smedly Butler.

Is this truth or was he just butthurt getting passed over for a promotion?

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Islamism is garbage.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Stockpile

got you beat, I managed a multi-million dollar IT solution. where's my millions?

Intelligent people who are compromised to making their country a better place. This is why we are gonna breed you out; because you suck at living.

you don't understand what you think you understand

Read about the problem I'm talking about

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction#Stockpile

You don't fire it at 'a guy', you fire it at tanks. Tanks that cost far more than $80,000.

kinda retarded since they wouldn't waste a Javelin on 1 lone rag head
the Javelin is an anti armor weapon but could also be used against some fortifications

The other guy was about to cost you more than 80000 usd

Hes giving him free monies. lel based trooper.
And now the French version:

youtube.com/watch?v=w4-9E7TM-0k&t=24

>Tanks that cost far more than $80,000
whoa! you got ripped off then.

>you don't understand what you think you understand

Explain. The pic in the op is pretty illustrating of the fact all excess human activity only goes to oppression.

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But he wastes the missile on a 30 thousand M113.

Fuck me.

Are you retarded? You don't just shoot a goat fucker with a javelin you fucking inbred. You can take out things much more expensive than $80k with a fucking javelin my man. Fuck your shitty b8.

The guy that fires it does so voluntarily, for the greater good of The nation

The guy on the receiving end wants to end the lives of every American regardless of income

French are dirty sneaky rats who dont want to give monies to anyone so they keep the rocket close by.

I miss the Old US Army who'd just napalm an entire area at the vaguest hint of enemies

They don't kill pussy-ass cucked white boys because they think their gonna get virgins, that's just rhetoric of dehumanization from ur jew masters, they kill u pussy-ass white boys because they hate ur guts.

A319

This is true of every job except useless ones like entertainer or college professor. Sage as always.

this is not crescent fresh

yeah, they fire atgm's at people who might be in a house or behind a wall, so what he's saying is correct.

>Autistic inbred britfuck who missed the entire point of the image
To be expected really

>outrageous
The person asking "Why?" would look like the bad guy to anyone stupid enough to fall for this sensationalism. The left shouldn't be allowed to use adjectives with more than one syllable. Their influence would cease to exist.

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So what is the point of that image then? Are you okay anyone using anything that is worth more than their yearly economic output?

Yes and i ran a million dollar machine putting hundred of thousands dollars worth of steel coils on it. I made 20 an hour, whats his point?

And we wasted nukes on nothing but sand, so what? You have to train.

Did they design it?

That's like saying "this computer network cost /4x in r&d and manufactoring, the fact that this data entry clerk doesn't earn that in their life time is outrageous," not really mate.

>10 year old rice box
>high end

Is it true that once you eject from a jet you cannot fly anymore because the force of the ejection fucks up your back for life?

kek

I was a hornet mechanic for a year as a conscript and was told this is a myth

Yea but (((rules of engagement))) and (((media coverage))) don’t allow that anymore

OOOOOO RAAAH DID YOU JUST SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE FLAG MOTHERFUCKER?!?!?! I BET YOU ARE A STOLEN VALOR POS
t. proudly served 1st MP brigade, Air Force 1996 dago mencia airforce base
/keephonkingimreloadin/

>There must be 1000x markup of those things.
Yes.
But also this
Especially the one unquie modal product cost

Read it and form your own opinion.
Nothing is truth.

I heard that you go in looking like shaquille o Neill and come out looking like Danny devito

>Intelligent people who are compromised to making their country a better place.
Aren't you the murder capital of the world right now? You can't even stop cartels from beheading people in the streets.
>This is why we are gonna breed you out; because you suck at living.
Without first world nations you'd be living in clay pyramids, Juan.

... so what does the captain of an aircraft carrier have to make? 10 billion dollars per year?

It's Okay, robot soldiers will be able to take greater risks.

The real, big long term problem is that fucking ideology and its evil opportunistic backers.

washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/04/24/russia-is-sending-weapons-to-taliban-top-u-s-general-confirms/

Shut up Ireland. Go starve in a famine.

Fucking RoE pisses me off so much.
God knows how many good lads could've been saved without it

absolutely this times 100x

We haven’t taught to win a war since ww2

We wouldn’t be in debt from wars if we reaped the prfofits from resources from the countries that would have done the same should they have won

Also, this is why it’s so stupid when people say we only fight wars for oil. Yet we control absolutely none of the oil resources like we really should

I work on a 20 million dollar super computer amongst other things

I make 160K/year

This is normal, what’s your point?

Actually specialty rocket motors, resilient electronics, electro-optical guidance packages, and a heap of precision machines parts are actually hella pricey. I’d guess they spend at least 15-30k on the launch tube and missile. It’s also a quantity game, these aren’t ordered by the million.

military industrial complex corruption

Jesus, thats fucking savage

Its like the left cant understand equity

This desu

This is why the US military doctrine is moronic and doesn't work in proxy wars. There is 0% chance the people getting those will not sell them for a fraction of a price to whoever is willing to pay. Russkies will get javelines now from ukies. You can't conduct any operation when the guy would rather sell his equipment to the enemy. But MIC has always been autistic.

Dead sandniggers are priceless.

No it takes multiple ejections from an aircraft because of spine compression

>doesnt make $80,000 in a lifetime

what?

This guy knows what's up. Its not the 72 virgins, its the fact that most of those kids lost their families to bombings.

>mfw MRI machines cost 160k
Nigger, the helium in them probably costs more than that.

It's not normal.

If a temp farm worker makes significantly less than the cost of the farming equipment or fuel or land, the owner of the farm should be shot or sent to Gulag and his former property equally distributed among collective farms consisting of poor peasants under competent Food Commissar supervision.

Aren't you people educated at all?

It makes sense, but then you think of the roads you drive on every day, the infrastructure for your power and water, and the building/equipment you work with and you realize its the same thing.

>not making 80k in lifetime

Is this Africa we’re talking about?

He's right.

Goatfuckers live on about 2 dollars a day and we usually kill them by the time they're 30. That's only about 22 grand.

That’s true, and as long as they appreciate that I’m fine with it as a taxpayer.

The job of the US military is to spend a lot of money. They are very good at their job.

We need to maintain our sphere of influence.

The idea that you're putting arbitrary monetary value on a life, and it's that low nonetheless, should go against the common liberal view.

The idea that you shouldn't fight people that want to murder other people, because it cost money, is outrageous.

How much do you think the sandpeople we're shooting at are making?

When Obama isn't paying them I mean.

Gibs dat oil pipeline geography

meh

oh holy shit. this proxy isnt banned. weeee

So go invest your money in arms/munitions corporations and profit from war.

Easy

That $80,000 object disables or destroys a 2million+ object

2million>80k

>F-22 pilots should be paid $150 million a year

firing a javeline in a priceless memory.
keeping count of how much money you got to
waste in the military would be the greatest.

Being in the military is not a skill-based career. Literally anyone will be accepted into the military but not a lot will be accepted into an IT job. Minimum skill=minimume wage.

Where are you from proxynigger

>IT
>skilled job
Heт

Capitalism cocksucker. They're using expensive equipment owned by capitalists to make them even more money. Meanwhile the grunts get paid in death.

>the rich get all the cool jobs and best stuff in the military regardless of qualifications
so basically military of long ago

same flag.

>the money one gets is a representative of its worth and not of the worth of his job

are you a women?

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so how much is a couple jihad niggers in a toyota worth?

So the guy works with equipment that costs more than it does to employ him? That’s called economics.

And besides isn’t that the socialist dream? That even the people who do the important jobs get paid the same has people who don’t?

dead? priceless

I work in IT and this profession is filled with some of the dumbest, most autistic people I've met in my lifetime. They can do their job but that's about it. There's a lot of stupid nigs in the military too but I've also met some pretty sharp dudes also. The military is decent at filtering out dumbshit and putting them towards the rear for some support jobs.

Subsistence farmers produce more than 500k over their lifetimes. Hunger is a retard and javelins are primarily targeted at vehicles that cost over a million dollars

Ask the question like this:

Would you rather:
> Get payed less than 80k a year to do a very risky job but using the best technology money can buy?
or
> Get payed more than 80k a year to do a very risky job using the same shitty equipment your opponent has ? (or worse if he has russian friends)

>I drive a half a million dollar vehicle at work.. I don't even clear that much in 10 years.. and that's NOT okay

How much is the soldier's and his buddies' safety worth? How important is the mission objective? How much damage can the bad guy do?

Dumb pussies are asking the wrong questions.

at least $80k

A dead US soldier costs about $500k-1mil, so taking away a gun truck is pretty valuable desu.

Because you have to maintain fire superiority over any and all enemies. It is what it is. Go fight him with a 15 dollar knife if you want to save money.

I think the real question here is this: can anyone put a dollar value on the joy a 22 year old male feels when blowing a Toyota Helix full of half a dozen sand niggers 45 feet in the air in a fireball of plasma, metal, and freedom?

I've got to wonder is the idiot commentator is also including the price of the reusable parts in that unit cost.

The military industry. Besides, troops are replaceable, tech isnt

Modern nations accept war because it does not kill too many soldiers (on the "good" side). PR nightmares like Vietnam proved the public opinion can make you lose a war and it's now vital the public opinion isn't against "interventions" in foreign countries when it's "necessary" (for corporate interests anyway).

So we pay a huge fuckload of money to have immortal soldiers and we pay them scraps because their opinions means shit.

Probably about 700,000 dollars

given the benefits he probably does make 80k

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Then I think everyone comes out of this situation in a position of value.

Cept the sandniggers and the Helix probably, though it can be argued they've been improved.

It just floods the target with a narrow radar beam. Rather that lock something, it just targets whatever spot the radar is illuminating.

this

you sound like a young faggot

A private on a deployment with BAH and paying no taxes makes the equivalent of a 60k salary, so yea pretty close

Then why did they keep giving McCain new jets every time he crashed one and killed a bunch of his fellow sailors?

This is why the US Military spending is so much. Its all overpriced. There is no way a jabelin takes 80k to make, out government just pays that much. Americans like to brag about their spending amount but its mostly wasted dollars.

Comped?

Pretty sure those missiles are significantly cheaper now. And they're generally used for anti-tank. So the cost exchange is greatly in our favor.

Nah- you just need another phone book in your fighter seat.

t.

For one, it's not even his. Second, if you've got any military experience you'll know that firing one of those is fun as hell.

What's your point? Are you a Ludddite? You think war should consume men and not machines?

war is a racket

A garbage man drives a $4,000,000 garbage truck, the fact that a guy who doesn't make $4,000,000 in a year uses it to pick up garbage from people ho won't make $4,000,000 in their lifetime is just insane!