How did FGO and the secondaries ruin the nasuverse? It was going so well before

Thomas Jenkins
Thomas Jenkins

How did FGO and the secondaries ruin the nasuverse? It was going so well before.

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Justin Davis
Justin Davis

Nasu ruined the nasuverse. Secondaries are natural consequence. Fate Extra was the last straw, hell I'd say even Zero anime shouldn't happen.

Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

fatemonkeys surprised their franchise is shit

Leo Lopez
Leo Lopez

implying the Zero anime wasn't the apex of the nasuverse

Chase Cooper
Chase Cooper

It was going so well before

Zachary Taylor
Zachary Taylor

FGO is only the result of Fate being shit from the very beginning

Jose Bailey
Jose Bailey

Since Fate/Extra I knew there's no hope for Nasuverse.

Carter Bell
Carter Bell

well unlike most mobage spinoffs which are considered goofy omake and dream matches FGO is taken completely seriously a majority of the time.

Nolan Walker
Nolan Walker

It was going so well before
It really wasn't

Connor Murphy
Connor Murphy

It wasn't so well before. Things like extra showed how lazy they are and how much they want to milk fate and saber. Can't blame them for it but at least they can be mote creative.

Austin Roberts
Austin Roberts

How did FGO ruin the nasuverse? And don't give a shitty excuse like muh waifus and husbando

Like did the main story of the game retcon anything from the original Fate?

Joseph Bell
Joseph Bell

Fate is definitely the easy road to fame and fortune. Nasu wants money, so you really can't blame him for taking this route. I just hope he would work on new, smaller stuff while maintaining FGO, but I know that's wishful thinking.

Noah Edwards
Noah Edwards

I actually like the fact that I got one thing for me to put all the blame.

Christopher Smith
Christopher Smith

It was going so well before.
Hahahahahaha
Oh wait, you were serious?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Angel Taylor
Angel Taylor

did the main story of the game retcon anything from the original Fate?
If anything it justifies the simultaneous existence of all 3 FSN routes via its timeline shenanigans.

The fact that Camelot falling was a quantum timelock as well would mean that Arturia's wish for someone else to pull the sword out instead of her would just put the role of "King Arthur" on someone else, and Camelot would still fall.

Evan Reyes
Evan Reyes

Nasu was preparing to George Lucas his own franchise even before GO. It was only a matter of time. The missile has been launched: there's no going back to the way things were. It's dust and ashes from here on out. Loli's and titty monsters sell more than plot. Nasu offered us this fate and we devoured it like the good goys we are.

Carson Powell
Carson Powell

Was Fate ever good?

Evan Nelson
Evan Nelson

For some, it helped cement the new precedent. Many people were drawn into the Nasuverse through the stories and worldbuilding told in FSN and Zero. As of now, Strange/fake is the only new "traditional" Fate series that's being published.

Nicholas Kelly
Nicholas Kelly

Yes. It's really impressing how F/SN characters are still so popular after 14 years.

Jeremiah Moore
Jeremiah Moore

Stop treating Fate like if it were some sort of sacred cow and start reading better visual novels.

Christopher Collins
Christopher Collins

Fate peaked with the original VN and has only gone downhill since then. When people ask about getting into the series I tell them to read the original VN then stop because that's it, it never gets better.

And this is from someone who actively plays GO.

Kevin Green
Kevin Green

Fate died with zero lol

Nathan Bailey
Nathan Bailey

it was going so well
Let's not play pretend. Extra was shit and the only remotely good things after HA were Carnival Phantasm and Melty.

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

do the battle royale format better than the original
dude the franchise died lol
Why do you guys keep doing this? Same happened with Apocrypha despite the acclaim.

Jaxon Perez
Jaxon Perez

Mahoyo came out in 2012.
In Extra CCC Nasu was still trying at least.

People who just want Servants and battle royale shit are the reason TM became this way. FSN used that as a bait but then completely shat on the concept of the Holy Grail War, in classic Nasu style.

Ryan Smith
Ryan Smith

this

Lucas Gutierrez
Lucas Gutierrez

Like did the main story of the game retcon anything from the original Fate?

It actually did. F/SN, Zero, and Tsukihime are separate universes now ruining the entire DC/Marvel style shared world they had.

Wyatt Myers
Wyatt Myers

Werenn't they always separate universes?

Gavin Anderson
Gavin Anderson

And yet Zero somehow didn't do the same by making life miserable for all its participants? Only Apocrypha went head first with the concept, but still made it entertaining nonetheless by throwing away rationality.

Nathan Butler
Nathan Butler

Fate
Battle Royale Series
This is why Secondaries are the cancer

Leo Miller
Leo Miller

Illya zwei was the peak

only downhill from that

Leo Hernandez
Leo Hernandez

It ruined it for you cause you didn't pull a 5 star you shitter.

Cooper Thompson
Cooper Thompson

and this is bad why

Carson Kelly
Carson Kelly

Fate, Tsukihime, and KnK universes were always separated. They were alternate realities.

Josiah Morgan
Josiah Morgan

no

Luke Bell
Luke Bell

7 people participate in a fight against each other for a prize
how is this not a battle royale

Ethan Bell
Ethan Bell

War is hell
Holy grail war is stupid
Dont do the same thing like my father does, faggots.

John Davis
John Davis

Official Typemoon Tier List

Worth Experiencing
KnK movies
F/SN VN
Melty

Not Worth Experiencing
literally everything else

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

not written by Nasu
apex of nasu-verse

Zero caused the secondaries and normies. Zero was a mistake.

Joshua Ross
Joshua Ross

were always seperated
Redman and Ciel used to hang out secondary-kun

Charles Lewis
Charles Lewis

too bad Cred Forums missed the whole point of Zero and think Shirou is actually sane

Angel Murphy
Angel Murphy

What's a quantum timelock?

Dylan King
Dylan King

I want cake Aoko to sit on my face with her jeans, and I want to eat her ass.

Anthony Sullivan
Anthony Sullivan

reading 2004 Nasu
reading 2004 Nasu with a bad translation
No thank you

Aaron Foster
Aaron Foster

Pic related
This.

Jace Thompson
Jace Thompson

Yes, the characters still exist in the universe but the realities wasn't. Like the story of Tsukihime did not happen in Fate and KnK reality, or KnK story did not happen in Tsukihime and Fate reality.

Grayson Hill
Grayson Hill

being an EoP
ohohohoho~

Cameron Sanchez
Cameron Sanchez

Tsukihime
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru
Fate/hollow ataraxia
Kagetsu Tohya
Add them you nigger.

Josiah Allen
Josiah Allen

Ciel during her church work met Shirou during his siegi no mikata bullshit
Ciel working for the church is intrinsically linked with the events that start tsukihime
Shirou doing his bullshit is intrinsically linked with the events that occur in F/SN
Just admit Nasu retconned it.

Connor Collins
Connor Collins

Only Tsukihime/KnK were.

They had a better more expansive, interconnected world and dividing it up made each new one less interesting.

Mason Torres
Mason Torres

bad translation
this meme needs to die. i see people always say shit but never give any examples of bad translations, they just state it as is and expect others to believe that.

Michael Butler
Michael Butler

it's impossible to learn Japanese, unfortunately

Ryan Hall
Ryan Hall

The "save" points of the timelines. Events that must happen for a timeline to exist.

Basically common major events across all the timelines that still exist. Timelines that stray off and have those events not happen or end up differently are culled because they led to a stagnant future.

Another quantum timelock is the fact that regardless of timeline, all Fate/ timelines will have a HGW in Fuyuki in 2004. FGO's timeline had 1 single proper HGW and it was the one in Fuyuki 2004.

Camden Adams
Camden Adams

Tsukihime
Very overrated. It's a mess of a VN full of shallow characters that there really is no benefit to reading. By far and away the best thing to come out of it was Melty.
Mahou Tsukai no Yoru
This isn't even overrated, the general opinion is that it's average at best.
Fate/hollow ataraxia
If you loved the characters of F/SN so much that you are content to sit through SoL shit interspersed with Nasus pseudomoral wank maybe but it's certainly not worth experiencing on its own
Kagetsu Tohya
Same thing as Ataraxia but replace pseudomoral wank with needlessly complicated branching choices

Brandon Murphy
Brandon Murphy

cyka blyat

Aaron Bell
Aaron Bell

Are you pointing out things that were mentioned in FGO? Cause I don't remember those details. But to be fair it's been a while since I was into nasuverse. I just remember that the alternate realities thing was mentioned somewhere.

Only Tsukihime/KnK were.
Oh, I see.

Christian Robinson
Christian Robinson

Can you provide the quote from the actual VN? Nasu's meme answers change every time. They establish fuck all. Now fuck off, secondary.

You can't hang out with a very dead woman because Roa was killed and Ciel was never possessed in Fate.

Julian Smith
Julian Smith

It's from mats and interviews from like 2005. Retconned a long time ago.
I said used to you stupid nigger, it's clearly not true any more.

Asher Hernandez
Asher Hernandez

the writing is bad, so it must be the translators fault

Brody Taylor
Brody Taylor

This, Basically Shirou want to avoid the shitstorm F/Z does. Fate is Antiwar series, not the opposite.

Sebastian Garcia
Sebastian Garcia

the general opinion is that it's average at best.
Weird, because all the opinions I've seen say it does what Nasu set out to do with Fate and fights in general best

Luis Wood
Luis Wood

The Ahnenerbe existed because the fate and tsukihime version of the characters did NOT belong to the same timeline.

You had this started since Extra loud and clearly with Sion being informed as still birth and dead in Fate worlds.

Dylan Miller
Dylan Miller

Tsukihime has the best vampire lore outside of the World of Darkness. The Tohno stuff was also golden and Kohaku is a more interesting Sakura.

Owen James
Owen James

Mahoyo is one of those cases where it has a lot of people who believe it's great because it's untranslated. The reception when it came out in Japan was very lukewarm and Nasu didn't bother with even hinting that he was working on a sequel.

Chase White
Chase White

The Ahnenerbe existed because the fate and tsukihime version of the characters did NOT belong to the same timeline.
Ahnenerbe was to mix KnK characters with Tsukihime and Fate ones originally
You had this started since Extra loud and clearly
Extra came out like 5 years after Nasu originally said they were connected.

I don't know what is so difficult to comprehend about 'this used to be true but isn't any more'.

Evan Rivera
Evan Rivera

I thought that was because of the low production values and no voices rather than the content itself.

Jonathan Scott
Jonathan Scott

It's pretty animated for a visual novel though

Aiden Cook
Aiden Cook

Mahoyo had great production values and the effects are fantastic, it's just boring.
no voices
All Typemoon vns were released unvoiced.

Leo Sanders
Leo Sanders

I said used to you stupid nigger,
no, it never happened, "nigger", all you have is some joke that Nasu made because he never took seriously shit like Archer's clothes.origin. He's not fucking Tolkien who thinks shoes need a backstory.

Brody Gray
Brody Gray

Zero was Urobuchi not nasu. It should have ended with this light novel... maybe Prisma manga staying underground just like MBX. Nasu should have finished Mahoyo and return to Turkeyhandle. But thats just my Tsukihimefag wishful thinking.

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

never took it seriously
talks about the magic properties it has and its origin
Is your argument really "He said it but he was joking trust me", because that's pathetic.

Joseph Adams
Joseph Adams

Ahnenerbe was to mix KnK characters with Tsukihime and Fate ones originally
Yet it's used mostly for Tsukihime and Fate, you drooling retard.

Extra came out like 5 years after Nasu originally said they were connected.
Please quote this, and from an actual official work. Because the only connection FATE has is with KnK due to Touko. Which makes sense considering KnK world also got incinerated.

Austin Jackson
Austin Jackson

Nasu retconned the entire setting of when the wars took place creating continuity problems (like making Karen 14 when she used to be much older) way before this divide and people give a shit about two separate works being two separate works?

Sounds like oldfags aren't really fans and hate to have their headcanons challenged.

Grayson Morales
Grayson Morales

Its a perfect Pleb filter who likes SAO, Mirai Nikki, DBS, & Naruto.
Real fatebros only Read/Watch F/SN, F/HA & F/Z & understanding the meaning of it.

Grayson Davis
Grayson Davis

Yet it's used mostly for Tsukihime and Fate
Because they have more characters. Saying mostly means not entirely anyway, so great job.

please quote this
It's in Fate/complete material III.

Landon Thompson
Landon Thompson

It's from mats and interviews from like 2005. Retconned a long time ago.
What was retconned, the Ciel-Archer relationship or the multi realities thing? Archer still could exist in Ciel's (Tsukihime) reality and Ciel still could exist in Archer's (Fate) reality. It's just that the events that happened in their reality might be different than the actual events of their game, therefore not connecting them directly. Pretty sure even Extra is an alternate reality.

Samuel Morris
Samuel Morris

Spbp

Joseph Bell
Joseph Bell

But they're still worth experiencing, at least as a 2nd tier if you enjoyed the 1st tier. Unlike the rest of TM trash.

Brandon Martin
Brandon Martin

Pretty sure even Extra is an alternate reality.
Yes.

Redman, for one, made a contract with the Moon Cell instead of Alaya in Extra's timeline, resulting in a much happier redman.

Wyatt Watson
Wyatt Watson

You could just not watch them. It's not like the type Moon routes that need to be watched/read in order to understand the whole story.

Jace Bennett
Jace Bennett

fatefags think their shonen powerlevel shit is better than other shonen powerlevel shit

this is why everyone hates you

Zachary Bell
Zachary Bell

No one cares about Karen's age; shared universes are a huge selling point though, to the extent that it turned the MCU into a juggernaut. The Nasuverse, in Urobuchi's words, used to be Japanese Marvel.

Michael Ward
Michael Ward

The problem is that nothing good will come out of TM again, since they're fixed on pandering to secondaries by misusing Servants, and put literally no effort into anything they do thanks to a shitty mobage making them all the money they'd ever need.

Kevin Walker
Kevin Walker

uhhhh seems like a bunch of neets just don't have phones

Levi Hill
Levi Hill

F/SN
Powerlevel

Jason Reyes
Jason Reyes

Wow, look at this image full of shitty bland and meme characters.
It'd fit right into /vg/.

Austin Kelly
Austin Kelly

It's [email protected] cg all over again.

Josiah Long
Josiah Long

Going so well before
Bullshit, it started with Zero but adding gachashit just exploded Fate's popularity plus we got that piece of shit Apocrypha with a pull towards Trapfags/ Trannies (people with bad taste.) Either way TM is normie now, deal with it.

Christopher Green
Christopher Green

This.Fate should be nothing more than a glorified eroge.

Liam Martinez
Liam Martinez

Sorry but there was no fate community on Cred Forums before F/Z,now do me a favor and shut the fuck up.

Colton Morales
Colton Morales

Zero is the reason fags want EPIC battles from the franchise, completely misunderstanding the whole theme of the Grail war being a pointless and vicious slaughter.

Henry Ramirez
Henry Ramirez

no fate community on Cred Forums before F/Z
yeah, when F/Z was airing there were totally no lnfags pointing out how adaptation sucked.

Hudson Clark
Hudson Clark

People always find a way to bitch about something.Consensus is not fun.
F/Z as a standalone is a better anime than much of the overrated shit we've been fed this last years.

Robert Wright
Robert Wright

It was still mediocre adaptation. They even fucked minor, yet important details like Iri's dress color.

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

but that was the beauty of Kerry, he partook in the epic slaughters and realized at the very end THE GRAIL WAR WAS A MISTAKE and commanded Seiba to excaliblast his cupwife only to stumble through the wreckage desperately searching for some meaning in all the pointless bloody destruction their tournament causes literally every time.

Jaxson Mitchell
Jaxson Mitchell

It's a mediocre adaptation(your words,not mine) but a fucking great anime.That's what matters,not your mickey mouse virtual coloring book with words

Matthew Gray
Matthew Gray

It's fucking great anime the same way Tsukihime 'adaptation'

Joseph Diaz
Joseph Diaz

Im curious how Ufo gonna adapt HF2. since the mid part are almost all Drama between Shirou, Sakura, And Rin.

Adrian Gomez
Adrian Gomez

but a fucking great anime
begins with an anime original hour long episode of two men walking in circles explaining everything to you like you're a retard who couldn't possibly understand anything through context
And that just set the tone for all that was to come. There's a certain audience they were going for and I'm sure they loved it, but it was not fucking great by most standards.

Blake Kelly
Blake Kelly

Because it was the first anime adaptation in years and it was introducing the fate world to new people?Or are you a pathetic elitist that doesn't want people to have fun without giving a fuck about the source material?

but it was not fucking great by most standards
What standards by the way?

Connor Harris
Connor Harris

At least FGO settled whether Prillya was canon

Gavin Moore
Gavin Moore

At least FGO settled whether Prillya was canon
And what's the verdict? Is FGO canon anyway?

Jose Garcia
Jose Garcia

The answer isn't as simple as you would expect, it initially appears that it is combination of people being too stupid to understand that the series requires a high intellect (that many anime watchers do not have) and the fact that some people see it as over-rated. This plays in to the gacha elements, you have many servants from various holy grail wars and it's your fault for not keeping up with every single one, there's not too many servants, you're not smart enough to understand them all.

Grayson Morales
Grayson Morales

Everything is canon, because fuck you we got timelines shenanigans here

Bentley Turner
Bentley Turner

It’s as canon as GO is, which is what matters.

Samuel Garcia
Samuel Garcia

Fucking Zelretch...

Brayden Cook
Brayden Cook

The Nasuverse ruined itself

Justin Reyes
Justin Reyes

FGO is spearheading the canonnity of the series.Every other timeline has been ''closed'' or ''settled''.

James Baker
James Baker

There's no nasuverse,there's only a faggot that is retired but still making millions on royalties.
The lack of work on new novels,etc shows how much respect he has for his fanbase.People still eat his shit.

Julian Brown
Julian Brown

People still eat his shit.
I haven't touched anything new since Prisma. Anything not related to original cast and places is a trash.

Ryan Williams
Ryan Williams

Anything not related to original cast
That's actually the biggest problem,the constant pandering to saberfags is pretty fucking annoying,there must always be a fucking saber face in every iteration or people would go mad.

They have to move on,introduce a fresh cast in a F/SN sequel set in 6th Grail war.This is all we're begging for

Jayden Brown
Jayden Brown

Why are fate threads on Cred Forums such cancer? Is there any other franchise where every thread is just oldfags whining about secondaries? Fate went mainstream 7 years ago with the zero anime, you would think people would get over it at some point

Jace Roberts
Jace Roberts

Thanks. Who determines the culling of these timelines though? Old man Zelretch?

Leo Morris
Leo Morris

FSN is over, Holy Grail on Fuyuki is completely destroyed. theres no need for sequel.

Matthew Miller
Matthew Miller

popular = good
sounds like something a brainlet would say

Bentley Lewis
Bentley Lewis

Everyone went to /fgog/, EOPs got left behind in Cred Forums.

Nolan Green
Nolan Green

Alaya does it.

Jace Parker
Jace Parker

Some people just hate fanfic-like shit that starts living it's own life and takes over original product. (Comedy spinoffs are okay).

Leo King
Leo King

Like Angra Mainyu says, All good things must come to at end.

Austin Anderson
Austin Anderson

I think you mean Fucking Solomon.

Isaac Cook
Isaac Cook

It's Alaya, implementing the Human Order upon the world. This is why Tsuki and Fate are now completely separate, but very similar, franchises. Either that or the Tsukihime universe is set to be culled. Sorry Arc

Angel Ward
Angel Ward

WAAAH MUH FATESHIT IS GETTING ATTENTION WAAAH

Jonathan Rodriguez
Jonathan Rodriguez

Tsuki no Sango is Tsukihime universe in the year 3000 so I'm pretty sure it won't get culled

Jack Wood
Jack Wood

What exactly is wrong with Fate? I haven't read the VN or seen anything to do with this series.

Parker Allen
Parker Allen

The original? The problem with that one is that it tries to be something it is not, it tries to be deep, but is just chunni shit with badly drawn hentai. Fights are all over the place with everyone withdrawing and not killing each other for several hours and doing other dumb shit to draw the whole thing out

Extra? Nothing, is chunni shit that is not taking itself seriously and can now be fun. Fights are 1vs1 till the death with no one leaving a fight.

FGO? Mobage shit that is now the main series and anyone not playing the mobage are secondaries in the Nasuverse. Problem is the bland shit MC, shit draw rates and shit design on a lot of servants.

Extella? A little too much of Nasu sucking Nero´s penis. Is fun if you like Musou and Attila being an alien.

Matthew Campbell
Matthew Campbell

TM Milking it after Fate/Hollow ataraxia
And See

Jack Baker
Jack Baker

This, Basically Shirou want to avoid the shitstorm F/Z does
Did you forget that was what Iskandar was doing for half of Zero before he exhausted himself? He only attacked Assassin that tried to murder Waver after he offered nothing but good will and Caster who was some abomination.

Michael Thomas
Michael Thomas

Ignore this post & read this instead

Justin Green
Justin Green

Because they have more characters. Saying mostly means not entirely anyway, so great job.
The characters didn't meet without it, you dumbass.

It's in Fate/complete material III.
So it's non canon? Got it.

Logan Rodriguez
Logan Rodriguez

shared universes are a huge selling point though,
Explain how. Literally nobody wants Tsukihime shit in Fate world. I cheered when I don't have to deal with shitty Tsukihime fans shoving their bad doujin meme in my threads or wanked literal whos.

Henry Sullivan
Henry Sullivan

They basically write the story around being able to introduce more 5 star waifus/husbandos for people to collect. They're probably shoving Caren into a psedu-servant slot right now

Owen Peterson
Owen Peterson

Am I supposed to take FGO seriously? The events don't seem like anything serious and the story seems self contained. Only on NA though since I have no idea what JP is up to

Camden Stewart
Camden Stewart

Nasu still writes things for FGO. Nothing really that good but he still writes.

Andrew Cooper
Andrew Cooper

That only works when the series are both popular like KnK and Fate. Secondly, the characters appear in different versions. Roa did when he got roasted by Dantes. Zepia was in Case Files. So on.

Connor Murphy
Connor Murphy

Remember when Fate was good
It was never good.

Andrew Cruz
Andrew Cruz

pandering to secondaries
FGO players are the primaries now. You, on the other hand, are the secondary who don't belong in the TM fanbase. Nasu doesn't want you.

David Gutierrez
David Gutierrez

What do Shirou know about 4th grail war anyway ? All he knows is that war cost lots of innocents lives. His father failed to do it, now its Shirou job to prevent it. Read FSN first, user. dont start Fate series from Zero.

Lincoln Hill
Lincoln Hill

Not everyone is you. Also Tsukihime characters still show up in things like Case Files and SF.

Benjamin Ward
Benjamin Ward

Zelretch
relevant

John Sullivan
John Sullivan

It's just three bitter Shittyhimefags circlejerking and whining because their shitty vamp VN doesn't get a remake.

Evan Johnson
Evan Johnson

Paradox I see with Fate is you have to read everything for overall world building, lore and characters knowledge (which is a chore most of the times) so you can enjoy little details that come from it, i.e. reading full FSN for Zero. For me it's a love/hate relationship. I like secondary characters the most and consider Prisma pinnacle of Fate.

Thomas Hernandez
Thomas Hernandez

KnK >>> FSN and Tsukihime

Colton Jones
Colton Jones

BUY OUR ANIME ABOUT COOL FIGHTS
FUCK YOU IS NOT ABOUT COOL FIGHTS
Don´t be retarded.

James Taylor
James Taylor

Zero is the apex and still shit.

Jose Perry
Jose Perry

see Zelretch is just a nice CE that is used for farming.

Goetia said so: it's a great evil brought by humanity itself. Its nature is eliminating on purpose what considers too divergent of what's settled from the chosen course of proper man's history.

Levi Clark
Levi Clark

I did, I was saying that Iskandar had his role in Zero, but didn't have his disgusting plot armor.

Cooper Brown
Cooper Brown

If you want to start, heres a guide.

Nathaniel Torres
Nathaniel Torres

How about a tldr version?

Nolan Jones
Nolan Jones

Tsukihime Far Side + MB > KnK > Tsukihime Near Side >>Fate spinoffs build on Fate knowledge >> fields of bland >> Vanilla Fate > shit >Fate spinoffs build on waifufaggotry

Bentley Martinez
Bentley Martinez

Literally explained in the PV:

Text
As there is competition in life, History also has victory and defeat
The "Present" is the history of the winner, their choices and prosperity are the correct ones.
This is called Generalized Humanity History
The history of the loser, their choices and prosperity are the false ones
It was scrapped as an "unnecessary things", it was even abandoned from the parallel world theory, a "Stalemate Human History"

"Solomon" (Goetia)
"By the name of the King of Magecraft, I'll reveal the true nature of this planet.
Behold, this is what awaits in the end...
The atrocity that was done by the history of humanity itself."

"Humanity's answer towards the elimination of the weak isn't about survival of the fittest but rather eliminating them on purpose."

Humanity self-regulates itself.

Ryder Bailey
Ryder Bailey

That was before, we have no idea what's going on there anymore. We know it's a dead end thanks to Wallachia in MB Nightmare manga anyway.

Alexander Gutierrez
Alexander Gutierrez

FSN VN > FZ > UBW Ufo > FHA

Liam Ramirez
Liam Ramirez

Another quantum timelock is the fact that regardless of timeline, all Fate/ timelines will have a HGW in Fuyuki in 2004.
Not all, Prototype didn't have it, but it's another world tree.

Jace Rogers
Jace Rogers

I want to cum inside Jeanne while Mash watches!

Charles Foster
Charles Foster

shit draw rates
Not really a problem when you can fucking clear the story plot and majority of the events with a team of 1*s and 2*s no problem.

If you know what you're fighting and how to build a team, you can clear most of the stuff in the game. One of the many valid strategies to beat Goetia was centered around Asterios, a 1*. Another valid strategy was to throw Astolfo, a 4* that everyone agrees is shit, at Goetia and watch him solo Goetia.

Adam Ward
Adam Ward

What? It is still Land of Steel that Zepia visioned. Humanity is still alive and "reached stars" so timeline is fine.
A:Tsuki no Sango is a world where the event of Tsukihime did not occur. Different from EXTRA's "what if" scenario, the one of Tsuki no Sango is "a degenerated world where magecraft yet lingers". Tsuki no Sango has a Land of Steel type of world.

Jordan Edwards
Jordan Edwards

MB Nightmare imply everyone will die in in the future of their time unlike the "other world" which has a more open possibility.

I'm not sure why are you quoting Extra. The only set up in Tsukihime that still remains is MB Nightmare and there it's gonna be apocalyptic.

Nicholas Cooper
Nicholas Cooper

VN
I dislike reading for long stretches no thanks. I guess I will just watch the zero anime, ubw and try the mobile game.

Parker Hughes
Parker Hughes

Not Memelin, Memelin, Jeanne Alter and a Waver
Is like you want to be bored to death.

Cameron Jenkins
Cameron Jenkins

This Nasu Q&A about Tsuki no Sango so why are you being a moron?

Logan Adams
Logan Adams

Tsukihime's timelines is missing the Human Order Foundation entirely. It can't cull something it has no power over. Iirc without the Human Order Foundation, there is also no system of manifesting Heroic Spirits as Servants as we know them in Fate.

Dylan Gomez
Dylan Gomez

Are you being a moron about it being meaningless because Nasu is overhauling all Tsukihime world? The DAA list is also non canon because Nasu said he's going to change it for the reboot.

The only thing we know from Tsukihime world is that they are all fucked according to the only work he approved and coached post his universe overhaul.

Zachary Cox
Zachary Cox

tfw no Tsukihime 2 merry adventures with Satsujinki

Jaxon Edwards
Jaxon Edwards

Oh God user, dont do it, you gonna misjudge Shirou & Kiritsugu & Rin character like most of user here if you watch it from Zero.
The VN is Fully Voiced & lots of characters movement, trust me. You wont regret it. FSN is beginner friendly for those who want to read VN.

Camden Lee
Camden Lee

4 man team
Goetia's first turn wipes your front row, he also buffs himself to pierce any invulnerability skill you try with Merlin there so yeah, good job, all you have left is Waver on his own. Try again.

Alexander Ward
Alexander Ward

Honestly, most people stop because the Saber route bored them to death. I got my friends to watch UBW and Zero with that in consideration and it was the right choice.

Noah Russell
Noah Russell

Tsuki world going towards destruction was a thing since MB but death of the planet=/=death of humanity. The fact is they are alive in the land of Steel of Tsuki no Sango as for the year 3000

Luke Peterson
Luke Peterson

Because Saber route is introduction route to show how Fate universe works.

Connor Campbell
Connor Campbell

ZOMBI

Eli Evans
Eli Evans

Or just watch that one 50 mins episode of UBW and be done with it. Infodump can be fast and fun. No need to have a few hours wasted.

Connor Morris
Connor Morris

Not that user but I think I've missed something these years, what the fuck is MB Nightmare and what about the Notes?

Jeremiah Walker
Jeremiah Walker

the spinoffs to my hentai visual novel about a Japanese teenager fucking rule 63'd King Arthur ruined the franchise by not taking it seriously enough

Do yourself a favor and go read a real book.

Alexander Gomez
Alexander Gomez

This is why people think wrong about Fate series. They are gonna think Fate is powerlevel battle Anime.

Blake Johnson
Blake Johnson

But it is, especially glorified HF with retarded super saiyan zombie Kirei vs Shero which is, ironically more over the top route than UBW.

Anthony Gutierrez
Anthony Gutierrez

Fate was trash from the start but the sort of trash that I like so things like FGO are only a natural consequence.

Connor Martin
Connor Martin

what the fuck is MB Nightmare
2 vol manga about Arc infodumping Sion about GO and Tsukihime worlds

Henry Harris
Henry Harris

it isn't?

Nathaniel Davis
Nathaniel Davis

I'll never get over people from a fucking eroge about a female king Arthur acting like highty and mighty.

And I read the source material (Sadly(

Nicholas Flores
Nicholas Flores

And people wonder why there's no official 2hu animu.

Charles Wright
Charles Wright

So instead the Grail War is about your seel insert fantasies? Cool.

Adam Harris
Adam Harris

This is actually a pretty good take. Good, Fate fag are so protective of their hentai game.

Nicholas Reyes
Nicholas Reyes

go eat a bag of dicks, Cred Forums

Angel Sanchez
Angel Sanchez

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Samuel Watson
Samuel Watson

It was going so well before
Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Nolan Anderson
Nolan Anderson

9/10 Bait

Matthew Hall
Matthew Hall

It's canon because Nasu already said so.

But it'll never be canon for the delusional minds of the people here.

Joseph Brooks
Joseph Brooks

Artoria being a girl was a unique case of legend obscuring fact and reinforced her inner turmoil about being king
Now everyone and everything was actually a cute girl because

A big point was made in the original about how these supposed glorious battles between legendary figures for the ultimate prize are nothing but glorified, selfish slaughters where it's nearly impossible for bystanders to not be killed, permeated for years because of a handful of ancient families who are a bunch of cunts, and whose prize is just an angry jew who can pretty much only be used to hurt people.
Now it's played completely straight and it's all about the historical pocket monsters using flashy moves and being cool
I won't blame the secondaries, though. You can't blame a fly for sticking to a turd. I won't even blame Zero since at the end of it all it did stick to the message of the original, even if you can tell that most of its fans just like it for the fights and for muh barabando Iskander.
Nasu and his buttbuddies fucked it up themselves. Nowadays I just remember Fate for what it was, and the Tsuki remake is bound to be dragged through the shitter if it ever comes out, too, so no use bothering with TM as a whole ever again.

Nathaniel Gutierrez
Nathaniel Gutierrez

Why are fate threads on Cred Forums such cancer?
All the people moved to BL and /vg/ thus left Cred Forums with secondaries parading as oldfags.

Cred Forums even defends apocrypha now

Ayden Russell
Ayden Russell

I'm not sure we're going to enjoy it as much as you do, user.

Jack Clark
Jack Clark

Jesus Christ, fatefags are worse than kyoanus.

Christian Rogers
Christian Rogers

Accurate post, user. Sums up my feelings nicely though I still hope the Remake can be good. At least Nasu won't be limited by Servant shit that is now meaningless, and it'll be a VN.

Cred Forums even defends apocrypha now
Only a handful of secondary retards, who are precisely the people who only like Fate for Servants and action shit, and the same fags who make /vg/ unbearable.

Asher Peterson
Asher Peterson

It's natural. You see fatefags even in VEG threads parading around memeing Violet as Seiba

Camden Rogers
Camden Rogers

He's clearly not, given Redman.

How is this in any dispute?

Grayson Barnes
Grayson Barnes

The original? The problem with that one is that it tries to be something it is not, it tries to be deep, but is just chunni shit with badly drawn hentai
This.

Nicholas Foster
Nicholas Foster

FGO
I know hating a franchise for its fanbase is retarded but ever since I met the first nasufag on the internet, they have always been retarded cunts. Every single one of them. I have never had a good experience with somebody that revealed himself as a nasufag, and I'm not even talking about "secondaries" I'm talking about the true fans. You're the most awful people on the internet, secondaries are just to a lower degree the same thing as all of you. Not a single fanbase pisses me of more than a nasufag. FGO didn't ruin anything.
Sorry for coming to your thread to talk shit about you.

Isaiah Richardson
Isaiah Richardson

I know hating a franchise for its fanbase is retarded but ever since I met the first
you could say this about every series that exist

Gavin Morales
Gavin Morales

says the tripfag

Cooper Nelson
Cooper Nelson

If you had ever been part of the fanbase you would've realized why GO was the last nail in the coffin, or you would've liked GO because you never were that into TM or you only liked it for shallow reasons.

Michael Rogers
Michael Rogers

A:Tsuki no Sango is a world where the event of Tsukihime did not occur.
Can't wait when it turns out that Shiki is Tsuki world Jesus who'll save it from going to Notes path

Lucas Reyes
Lucas Reyes

I'd be OK with him sacrificing himself to save it, since he has a short time to live anyway.
Actually I'd be OK with anything Tsukihime that isn't stuck as a GO shit event, but that's too much to hope from current TM.

Jaxson Williams
Jaxson Williams

I'm bored of using 4* and 5* servants and want to try out 3*. Anyone used Jekyll/Hyde? How useful is it? Or is it pure gimmick?

Nicholas Parker
Nicholas Parker

It's the gimmick of asking that on /vg/

Benjamin Martin
Benjamin Martin

, even if you can tell that most of its fans just like it for the fights and for muh barabando Iskander.
As opposed to the original fans who like because muh self insert and muh moe saber and muh tohsaka anus

Dylan Morris
Dylan Morris

It's not worth it. Jekyll is completely useless and you'll have to basically waste turns keeping it alive and build up its NP for it to do damage. You're better off just using a Berserker right from the get go.

Eli Perry
Eli Perry

Are those curry spaghetti?

Kevin Nguyen
Kevin Nguyen

I always thought it was ramen, actually.
Maybe Ciel-senpai had some sort of influence there.

Ayden Hernandez
Ayden Hernandez

Primary material = F/GO
Secondary material = F/GO anime OVA
Irrelevant trash = F/SN VN, F/Z and the rest of the non-canon spin-offs.

Cooper Long
Cooper Long

Jekyll's great, but he needs a strengthening quest. Can't wait for Fate/Prototype to be animated.

Gabriel Foster
Gabriel Foster

Use Medusa. Fuck what does gameplay fags say. The Original Servants always a best.

Dylan Young
Dylan Young

1/10 bait
feel like you don't even try anymore.

Colton Phillips
Colton Phillips

Doesn’t mean they couldn’t make a new one, or a FAKE one *cough* Strange/Fake *cougj*

John Cook
John Cook

I'll remind you as many times as necessary. Grand Order is the only thing that matters.

Elijah Wood
Elijah Wood

Nasu is still working on Tsukihime, it'll happen.

Josiah Allen
Josiah Allen

Don't mind me, just posting the saviour of F/GO and reminding people that doujinshi is what made TM what it is.

Parker Richardson
Parker Richardson

Reminder that with Medb not getting a figure we have officially confirmed a number of things, and debunked medbfag memes:

Memes debunked:
Its too early for her to get a figure, it needs more time
Cu Alter, released at the same time, is getting one. Cu Alter has never really appeared without Medb, and is heavily shipped with her, meaning with him getting one now and her not, she's never getting one.

She's Nasu's favorite
This was already hilarious, but there are actualy a number of things to unpack here

if nasu even liked her, she'd have a figure
if anyone at type moon liked her, she'd get a figure
if anyone at aniplex liked her, she'd get a figure
So, the "wank" she got is probably just coincidence. Meme dead.

she is popular
This is the ultimate one. With Fate getting everything and dominating wonfes right now, this is the only time it is going to happen. With new servants coming out every week almost, and medb unlikely to be in any more events in a major role now, the time for her relevancy is well and truly over. Suffice to say, if she hasn't gotten one by now, it's never going to happen.

Game over, medbfags. Everyone at type moon hates her, the fans hate her, and you're never, ever going to see her again, except maybe as a throwaway summer version if you're lucky. Though judging by how she's too unpopular to even get a figure, it's unlikely she'll get anything like that too.

Chase Nelson
Chase Nelson

Just stop replying to him.

Joshua Murphy
Joshua Murphy

Now it's played completely straight
But the only straight war was the one Marisbilly won with Solomon and that was played off screen?

Zachary Rogers
Zachary Rogers

You posted this on the wrong board, GO shitter.

doujin game has higher production values and looks better than the main project and its spin-offs
Hilarious.

Isaac Stewart
Isaac Stewart

LMAO

Justin Johnson
Justin Johnson

The reason why Fate was popular in the first place was the idea of heroes fighting, NOBODY gives a shit about Shitrou. Sakura, Rin, Ilya and Saber are only worth by their designs. Prisma, Extra, etc show you can just reuse the designs and nobody cares.

Justin Rivera
Justin Rivera

nice try, medbfag, but there's no such thing as a wrong board when it comes to BTFO ing your ilk

Isaiah Williams
Isaiah Williams

Just use Hercules lmao he’s the best Goetia soloer alive

Jason Parker
Jason Parker

Cred ForumsBTFO

Ayden Allen
Ayden Allen

Why do people hate FGO?

Eli Brooks
Eli Brooks

Go back to naruto thread.

Matthew Brooks
Matthew Brooks

Why would you not hate FGO, assuming your only reasons to like it aren't "more porn and more Servant shit" (which is assuming a lot).

James Ortiz
James Ortiz

HEH

Andrew Brooks
Andrew Brooks

keep crying Cred Forums keep crying hahahahahahaha

Landon Morales
Landon Morales

GO shitter.
Cry more.

Jose Bennett
Jose Bennett

or you would've liked GO because you never were that into TM or you only liked it for shallow reasons.
Not even that guy, but who even gives a fuck? It's entertainment. People taking seriously a chuuni garbage story about a boy obsessed with swords who fucks King Arthur is just plain retarded.

You'll have a point if it ruined something that was supposed to be a masterpiece instead of a work designed to pander to the worst since the beginning.

Nolan Rodriguez
Nolan Rodriguez

Mobage is infinitely worse.

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

people
Subhuman Tsukicucks like this faggot aren't people.

Ryan Perry
Ryan Perry

People taking seriously a chuuni garbage story about a boy obsessed with swords who fucks King Arthur is just plain retarded.
This is the reason your opinion is worthless.

you can't have a passionate, flawed work with a clear vision if it's not a "masterpiece"
this can't be ruined by eternal, careless cashgrabbing

Dominic Martin
Dominic Martin

F/Z has accel zero collab, friend, so you need to move it to "secondary material" at least along with KnK, CCC and Prisma.

Joshua Brooks
Joshua Brooks

How is it "ruined"? It's more successful than ever.

Jacob Edwards
Jacob Edwards

Gudako in that outfit should have been animated in the OVA instead of faggy beta guy.

Benjamin Lewis
Benjamin Lewis

Three fucking Gils in one picture

Carson Rogers
Carson Rogers

Popularity and broadening your appeal usually means watering down what made the original good in the first place. This can work out, if you make up for that by putting more effort into everything else and delivering better products.
In this case it's not only that, but also putting less and less effort into everything, for more and more money.

Henry Jenkins
Henry Jenkins

Nothing is wrong with FGO besides its format
If it weren't originally meant as an ad for Extella the writing probably wouldn't have been so terrible for the first 2 1/2 singularities either
Blame aniplex for bringing the secondaries in with Zero

Grayson King
Grayson King

why Cred Forums alway seething when fgo get mention

Noah Clark
Noah Clark

Cred Forums hates Zero and Butcher passionately
Nasu loves Zero and Butcher passionately

Cooper Moore
Cooper Moore

Potato Potatoe. It was always silly pretentious garbage for waifufags.

FSN was cashgrabbing. If it wasn't, Saber would be male and there wouldn't be sex scenes and it wouldn't have been a VN. Don't be hypocritical.

Colton Martin
Colton Martin

I don't hate it. I just think it's kinda mediocre. I mean, I like the basic concept of adventuring through different ages and whatnot, but since the plot and interactions are mainly sandwiched in tiny portions between fights, you don't really get much sense of fleshed out characters.

Ryan Clark
Ryan Clark

FGO has brought in literaly millions more secondaries than FGO ever did.

"Nothing wrong with FGO besides its format" is just admitting that the whole thing is nearly worthless, and the couple of good parts of it are wasted on a really shitty pseudo-VN gacha game with a terrible protagonist.
It's not just about judging GO itself either, but the effect it has on TM as a whole and will have in the future.

Hudson Moore
Hudson Moore

Cred Forums hates Butcher passionately
Not anymore since his puppet masterpiece.

Samuel Barnes
Samuel Barnes

Cred Forums
It's literally two guys.

Jose Garcia
Jose Garcia

It's the impressive side of autism which makes me like fanfiction.

Thomas Rogers
Thomas Rogers

The difference is that FSN was good, and the obvious pandering to the target audience did not have a huge negative impact on the final product as a whole. FGO is a shitshow from the start, and the few interesting ideas/characters that it has are drowned out in a sea of shit.

Wyatt Gonzalez
Wyatt Gonzalez

Remember when it was 3 guys? You know, you, me and moot. ;_;

Gavin Sanchez
Gavin Sanchez

If it weren't originally meant as an ad for Extella
Who even told you this? Extella was going to come up first, but they had schudle issues. By then, Nasu already wrote the last chapter and Suzuken and Sugita had recorded their last battle lines.

Extella shit has no bearing in FGO except for Altera who is a shit flop anyway so nobody gives a fuck.

Isaac Anderson
Isaac Anderson

FGO is an original Fate story written by Nasu, if it's secondary than the fucking Fate/Stay Night VN is secondary.

Blake Lee
Blake Lee

FSN was good,
In your opinion. To me it was the most infodumping, pretentious and mindnumbing VN I've read.

Carson Thompson
Carson Thompson

And don't give a shitty excuse like muh waifus and husbando
Does literally that
It must be hard being so retarded

Mason Price
Mason Price

Extella shit has no bearing in FGO except for Altera
Except you know, the Lostbelts and pruning of timelines being mentioned in Extella now being a major issue in FGO part 2

Julian Taylor
Julian Taylor

these supposed glorious battles between legendary figures for the ultimate prize are nothing but glorified, selfish slaughters where it's nearly impossible for bystanders to not be killed
This is practically what every singularity is
The only difference is that you're led to believe the innocent bystanders aren't really real and that the grails are why the battle for them is possible in the first place rather than the reason why people are fighting over it

Caleb Long
Caleb Long

made the original good in the first place
The original is a porn game, dude. That's not exactly a high standard.

Michael Cooper
Michael Cooper

holy cringe

Easton Allen
Easton Allen

The vast majority of FGO is not written by Nasu. Even the parts he writes aren't always great, and they're still stuck in a really shitty game with a really shitty protagonist.
And I never said GO was secondary, it is (very unfortunately) the main project for TM in the late 2010s. But it certainly did attract millions more secondaries than Zero ever did, because it panders to them with the focus on Servants.

Yeah alright buddy, you're just another "it was always shit" fag. Quite funny that 90% of the people who defend FGO were never that into TM in the first place.

Isaac Fisher
Isaac Fisher

Waver and Roman talk about that already in Accel Zero, though. Not "lostbelts" by that name but that isn't mentioned in Extella either.

Extella/Extra is called a "spinoff' by Nasu, by the way, while FGO a "main franchise work".

And getting shit mentioned first means absolutely anything, otherwise it means Extella and FGO are just Fate/Labyrinth and Melty Blood Nightmare manga "shilling" because they laid down rules before they appeared there.

Christopher Lewis
Christopher Lewis

altera forced into septem and various events/servant promos just because buy muh umusou
originally teased for FGO when she's not relevant at all in it

Kevin Bennett
Kevin Bennett

Exactly. It's incredible that they fail to meet that standard by a country mile almost every time a new TM product comes out.

Aaron Gray
Aaron Gray

tfw everything is actually labyrinth shilling. All Hail Manaka!

Oh user, it just means Extella is being used as infodump-set up backdrop for the story that really matters: FGO.

Ryan Diaz
Ryan Diaz

FGO has brought in literaly millions more secondaries than FGO ever did
user are you having a stroke

Also Zero popularized Fate amongst jap normalfags three whole years before FGO even came out

Xavier Gomez
Xavier Gomez

The vast majority of FGO is not written by Nasu.
The PLOT outline is by Nasu since the beginning, except for Ebin. Nasu only wrote 5% of FHA too, I don't see anyone bitching over that.

Jose Garcia
Jose Garcia

If it wasn't obvious, switch the second FGO with Zero.

80% of FGO's fanbase are newfags who couldn't care less about the rest of TM. Confirmed by Nasu himself.
Zero might've done some priming to make it mainstream, but GO caused the real explosion.

Samuel Brooks
Samuel Brooks

Because FHA is a fucking fan disc.
How is that a difficult concept to grasp.
People have different expectations between a fan disc and the next huge entry in the series.

FGO would be totally fine if it was just a shitty phone game with some cool new lore and a lot of Servants.
It's the fact that it is the main project, while also being a clusterfuck of various authors, inconsistent quality in writing and art, and in a terrible medium that makes it objectively bad and a target for hate.

Elijah Collins
Elijah Collins

That means absolutely nothing. They also teased Darius and Mephistopheles. And they were more irrelevant than Altera.

How the fuck Attila the Hun being the enemy of Rome in the Rome singularity "forced"? Altera is a shit forced character, but she's sadly Attila and would make sense she's an enemy boss in Rome.

Brody Myers
Brody Myers

Altera being the final boss of Septem makes some bit of sense, what with her being Attilla the Hun, who did campaigned against the Roman empire.

Altera appearing for Bunyan's event is more about the nature of the 2 characters. Bunyan's legend is in building a nation, Altera by nature destroys civilisations.

Zachary Watson
Zachary Watson

Atilla was never a serious threat to Rome despite how much Altera stomped in Septem.

It's a bit sad how much they tried to wank a new Saber and still made her awful.

Ryder Martin
Ryder Martin

They succeed with Musashi and have discretly trying to sweep her off.

Jaxson Campbell
Jaxson Campbell

and in a terrible medium that makes it objectively bad and a target for hate.
Yeah, from fans of an hentai chuuni VN.

Justin Allen
Justin Allen

Tsukihime Servants when?

James Walker
James Walker

A chuuni eroge that was written all by the same author, with art all by the same guy, in a medium fit for Nasu's long-winded, description-heavy storytelling.

Parker Anderson
Parker Anderson

It's pretty pointless to explain all that to him. FGO is aimed at that kind of shiting losers, who enjoy crappy story, bland self-insert mcs and cheap pandering. That's exactly what they want. Thats what anime industry mass produces in form of isekai/shounen/mecha shit.

Colton Perry
Colton Perry

Because people here hate on Zero despite it going above and beyond criticizing Shirou's ideals, even though they're totally fine with it happening in FSN

Ayden Davis
Ayden Davis

FSN is almost entirely mystery and horror. Of the 'cool fights', Saber route battle vs Gil is basically the only one where the significance of the fight is not main character death or Shirou condemning himself to the life of a 'Hero of Justice', a wandering killer whose only home is the battlefield, and even that one is bittersweet because it ends with the twist of the corrupted grail and Saber and Shirou parting forever.

Aiden Jones
Aiden Jones

forever
The only thing Realta Nua did right.

Oliver Bailey
Oliver Bailey

I'd rather not want Tsukihime get sullied by GOshit pandering

Jeremiah Davis
Jeremiah Davis

Arc is going to ride Guda's cock.

John Russell
John Russell

bunch of psuedo servants thrown about, novelty servants, retarded star system
No. FGO is an undisputed cancer.

Aaron Hernandez
Aaron Hernandez

Archtype Earth and Shiki Void are going to get fucked by Guda.

Brayden Gray
Brayden Gray

good i hope this game gave your kind a cancer

Gabriel Bennett
Gabriel Bennett

Wrong hairstyle

James Clark
James Clark

It's happening
Dumb male masters

Connor Brown
Connor Brown

It’s ok user. You’ll have better luck one day.

Ryan Davis
Ryan Davis

If you loved the characters if F/SN so much
not liking Cu, Rider, Medea, Sasaki etc shenanigans
what are you gay

Lincoln Reed
Lincoln Reed

FGO got Asagami Fujino from KnK 3 when they rerun KnK event.

Tyler Cook
Tyler Cook

There was a ponytail theme on the draw tag.

Adrian Taylor
Adrian Taylor

Not him but you should stop with this retarded assumption. I've played for 2 years, never roll unless I have 700+ to make sure I always get what I want, and I still think the game is the cancer that killed TM.

Damn, that's ridiculously cute.

Alexander Martin
Alexander Martin

only 700 quartz

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

I've never needed that many to get the 5* I want. Though to be fair I only roll like twice a year.
Point is, luck is irrelevant to recognizing the negative impact GO has had on TM, and how trashy it is.

Adrian Peterson
Adrian Peterson

Not him but you should stop with this retarded assumption. I've played for 2 years, never roll unless I have 700+ to make sure I always get what I want, and I still think the game is the cancer that killed TM.
Try not being a lucklet. I hoarded once but got but only turned into disappointment when I got Jackshit.

The moment I started to fuck off from saving, doing a 10 roll or ticket roll on every gacha I want, I started getting what I want.

Xavier Lee
Xavier Lee

How can FGO be bad when it gave us so much feet art?

Hunter Adams
Hunter Adams

I hoarded once but got but only turned into disappointment when I got Jackshit.
I don't understand how that makes me a lucklet and not you.
I got Abby in like 15 tickets. I barely ever have to dig into my massive quartz fund.

Because feet or the porn were never the main appeal of Type-Moon.
If it was for you, then you're obviously GO's target audience.

John Bailey
John Bailey

anti-GOfags will never experience the most GAR moment of TM history

Owen James
Owen James

Feet/Grand Odor

Bentley Sanchez
Bentley Sanchez

The beasts are such a shitty concept. The DAA and Types are all you need for world level threats. FGO has taken humanity wank to whole new extremes.

Ryder Diaz
Ryder Diaz

Shirou is going to ride Guda's cock.

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

That's Muramasa. Shirou already was in game as Emiya and nigger version

Ethan Allen
Ethan Allen

The beasts are such a shitty concept. The DAA and Types are all you need for world level threats. FGO has taken humanity wank to whole new extremes.

People haven't even dug deep to the Outer gods yet that were revealed on the last chapter

Henry Bailey
Henry Bailey

it's a pseudo-Servant and not actually Shirou
shitty Higashide chapter with shallow chuuni tropes and 0 depth, as usual for his writing
wooaaah yet another Emiya remix, so epic guys!!!
Remember when this guy was an actually good main character of an actually good TM work?

No. As an anti-GOfag, I experienced it and it has nothing on Nasu's best GAR moments. Stop pretending like your game is worth shit.

Adam Rivera
Adam Rivera

Beast is just a another name. PM is considered DAA and Beast

Camden Martin
Camden Martin

FGO is better than the nothing we were getting from Nasu before. He's never going to remake Tsukihime.

Jason Lee
Jason Lee

If anything, it's probably gonna be a Tsukihime collab with FGO

Wyatt Turner
Wyatt Turner

Cred Forums literally secondary central.
FGO haters are secondaries.
This is Fact.
Cred Forums doesn't even know how Nasu writes because they consume shitty translations.

Brayden Jenkins
Brayden Jenkins

Fuck of DIshitter. You don't know anything

Jace Mitchell
Jace Mitchell

SEETHING
/vg/

Joshua Williams
Joshua Williams

being this mad

Andrew Morris
Andrew Morris

ITT: Fatefags try to fit in by shitting on everything they hold dear
No one is going to reward you faggots for cucking out. Why don't you stand up for yourselves?

David Green
David Green

CRAWLING IN MY SKIN

Adam Carter
Adam Carter

Real proof that /vg/tards are cancerous

Caleb Rodriguez
Caleb Rodriguez

DIshitter
Well I suppose Cred Forums secondaries really don't read anything outside FSN Takajun fanfiction.

Alexander Torres
Alexander Torres

Fuck off footfags.

Daniel Johnson
Daniel Johnson

Modern TM is trash and absolutely not worth defending.
I will defend pre-2015 Nasu no matter what.

Then don't reply to them.
Then again this thread is made to be bait central.

Leo Edwards
Leo Edwards

Nasu teased an actual world threat for Tsukihime, interested to see what it will be.
Not until Tsukihime R is done.

Jordan Cook
Jordan Cook

Is this some kind of EOP irony?

Anthony Moore
Anthony Moore

Shiki's feet!

Gavin Martin
Gavin Martin

I will defend pre-2015 Nasu no matter what.
Can you defend last chapter in DDD vol 2?

Nolan Mitchell
Nolan Mitchell

Why did she undress for her master?

Easton Sullivan
Easton Sullivan

Kohaku and Sakura had similar circumstances (and even that isn't true because Sakura had constant living experiments done to her body, as opposed to the synchronizing and physical abuse Kohaku suffered) but are totally different.

Sakura attempted a long time ago to move past her trauma and just live as best she could. Kohaku coped by just mechanically following a plan. Sure, she cared about Hisui, but she threw Akiha and Shiki under the bus from jump street. Sakura had to be pushed real hard to break down, and Shinji was never a source of help unlike Akiha.

See Hollow, the reason Medusa loved Sakura so much is that she acknowledged her life sucked, she stopped being a doll and tried to get the best out of life, however crappily she felt.

She didn't attempt to get out of the situation because there was no good way out, not with Zouken constantly monitoring her with being inside her. Compared to that, Kohaku's plans were practically laid at her lap by a family that was a second away from pulling the trigger on themselves.

Andrew Baker
Andrew Baker

KnK ->Tsukihime/KT/MB -> Stay Night -> Zero -> Mahoyo -> Case Files -> Strange Fake

This is the true path.

Jose Nelson
Jose Nelson

What happens in DDD vol 2?

Henry Kelly
Henry Kelly

what happened to the Dies Irae anime? I haven't seen anyone talking about it

Jack White
Jack White

Oops, HA after Zero.

Ryder Green
Ryder Green

DAA
Doesn't exist in Fate timelines.
Types
Why do they need to step in when the Beasts themselves do a great job of fucking humanity up?

Nicholas Anderson
Nicholas Anderson

Having something about Humanity's Evils doesn't mean world threat. Could be just Primate Murder getting referenced or appearing briefly.
Either way I hope it's exclusive to Sacchin route, so as to not ruin the feel of the originals.

Untranslated, but I will still defend that it was a Nasu original project, with no direct connection to his previous works, and without relying on the Fate brand crutch for easy sales.
Ãnd pelase do not use my kemono-dono to shitpost.

Connor Gutierrez
Connor Gutierrez

Wasting time on shitty VN
Nah

Dylan Cruz
Dylan Cruz

Ãnd
He does it again.

Isaac Martin
Isaac Martin

Suddenly X-man garbage. Like literally.
You better to forget about this trainwreck. They gonna stream final episodes in July.

Owen Martin
Owen Martin

Ã
So it's a typo again?
credforums.com/thread/168692552/anime

Liam Roberts
Liam Roberts

Why it's shitty?

Ryan Watson
Ryan Watson

Nasu is saying 3 events would have happened at the same time: Humanity's Evils in UBW, the climax of FGO, and a certain plotline in Tsukihime R. There was nothing in the original Tsukihime that's on par with either of those events, so it sounds like there's some big story thing that's been added.

Liam Robinson
Liam Robinson

Call the border patrol

Charles Reyes
Charles Reyes

Oh. Im still interested in it because I heard it's the closest thing to Kara no Kyoukai. I saw that the MC lost an arm as well which reminds me of Shiki. Too bad there is no readable translation.

Angel Turner
Angel Turner

this thread

Nathan Adams
Nathan Adams

It could be Nero going full CHAOS or Arc going demon lord

Aaron Hughes
Aaron Hughes

this thread
Was it autism?

Elijah Rogers
Elijah Rogers

Absolutely disgusting.
Secondary EOP talking shit about others. No any shame at all.

Matthew Harris
Matthew Harris

fgo is good

Jaxon Martin
Jaxon Martin

Geez, you guys sure are obsessed with me.
Yes it's a typo, I know "and" does not require a tilde.

I don't think it's a matter of "being on par", as it is just being related to Humanity's Evils.

Either one of these sounds pretty cool, but they're not very related to Beasts.

Zachary Harris
Zachary Harris

In Melty Blood the Dust of Osrias tried to repeat Goetia's plan.

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

fgokek mad that his gag waifu characters will never be in a relevant VN or anime

Jacob Sanders
Jacob Sanders

CUTE!

Robert Rogers
Robert Rogers

Nah mate the true point of fate has always been "if u love swords bitches will love you." Also your cultural heroes were all little girls.

Nolan Gray
Nolan Gray

Cries about reading
Wants to waste time playing gachashit
See you in future threads only to be told to read the VN.

Jackson Sanders
Jackson Sanders

Geez, you guys sure are obsessed with me.
Pretty sure it's the other way around user, stop being so obsessed it isn't healthy.

Wyatt Ramirez
Wyatt Ramirez

Delete this. I want them to do the Imperial HGW next

Xavier Clark
Xavier Clark

obsessed
if you can't remain anonymous then I will shitpost at you
also you denied being a huemonkey despite having that character available on your keyboard and I won't forget that

Jaxson Bailey
Jaxson Bailey

Nasu himself ruined the nasuverse.

Bentley Moore
Bentley Moore

nope

Ethan Davis
Ethan Davis

FGO did

Lucas Davis
Lucas Davis

I wasn't the one who took a minute to remember an unrelated post from another thread and immediately shitpost about it because of a repeated typo, as if that's relevant to the discussion.

But I'm not a hue monkey I am a yuropoor, I admit.

Bentley Smith
Bentley Smith

He's completely different. Out of all TM mc Arika is guy who don't give a fuck about others and their problems. He has no sense of fear but he has memory loss problem.

Nolan Robinson
Nolan Robinson

We have Guda Guda Order at least

The cutest.

Joshua Barnes
Joshua Barnes

Tsukihime is good

Noah Gomez
Noah Gomez

Nasu is the primary culprit for FGO, and for making it the main project instead of making something good himself.
He just wants to be lazy and let other hacks milk a shitty mobage.

Matthew Wilson
Matthew Wilson

Fate/Zero is the only good story in this entire franchise and I dare any of you bitches to challenge me

Leo Myers
Leo Myers

Well they didn't expect the mobage to actually explode. It's harder to keep it afloat if he alone writes it.

Hunter Anderson
Hunter Anderson

But the new FGO chapters are pretty good too

Dominic Cox
Dominic Cox

He shouldn't be writing it at all. All of his good ideas and concepts, that could've been their own cool standalone LNs are wasted on a trashy gacha game, in the middle of medicore/bad chapters.
It is his fault, because he could've kept TM's main works good by focusing on other shit, and letting GO be the bad spin-off for secondaries.

Ayden Ward
Ayden Ward

He wrote the scenario and then handed it off to the literary geniuses responsible for Apocrypha and Proto Fragments, only bothering to take the reigns again after FGO's story developed its reputation.

Jeremiah Gutierrez
Jeremiah Gutierrez

those feet are pretty good

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

sakurais vns are better than nasus tho

Jacob Ross
Jacob Ross

Why the fuck are Type-Moon elitists so triggered by Fate/Grand Order? What is it about a spin-off mobage that causes them to turn into such mouth-foaming autists?

Matthew Bell
Matthew Bell

stfu fag

Camden Sanders
Camden Sanders

Because it took over as the main project, and TM is likely to keep pandering to the secondaries that like it for Servants, rather than understanding what made Nasu's old works good.

Adam Ross
Adam Ross

Secondary

Christopher Thomas
Christopher Thomas

western fanbase
pure cancer

Gabriel Roberts
Gabriel Roberts

If it was just a " spin-off" no one would care

Brayden Young
Brayden Young

fgo gets nice foot art

Parker Phillips
Parker Phillips

Same people crying about Tsukihime Remake in Cred Forums but still don't know Japanese.
Same people crying about Mahou trilogy without reading Mahou (untranslated).

Chase Parker
Chase Parker

Would you be allowed to point out how shitty FGO is as a "main project" and that Nasu should be doing a billion other things if you knew Japanese?
Because I've seen plenty of nips complain about the neglect towards Tsukihime/Mahoyo/DDD, and they obviously don't consider that FGO shit fills their spot.
Stop pretending like it's a west-only thing to bitch about current TM.

Adam Torres
Adam Torres

Outer gods are just shitters whose purpose is to buff random girls to be gachabait. And it's written by Meteo so it's never going to be relevant in Nasu's outline.

Blake White
Blake White

lol

Carson Anderson
Carson Anderson

Stop pretending like it's a west-only thing to bitch about current TM.
Sorry but japs play and read FGO ongoing.
Of course they want something new but it's different from blind hate of secondary degenerates in Cred Forums. Proofs: check their boards.

Mason Morgan
Mason Morgan

Sure, but it'll be Extra Nero as a vampire replacing him.

Parker Ortiz
Parker Ortiz

No, originally everything was implied to be connected. For example, Shirou get's his new body from girl whom gives Turkeyhandle his glasses. And Redman timeline Shirou met Ciel. And Ciel and Kotomine were in the same church doom squad.
It limits storytelling opportunities. Now instead of a wider world an author literally has to make a choice between Servants and Dead Apostle Ancestors, because new canon is they cannot exist in the same timeline. Flying in the face of Zelretch, of course.

Jose Carter
Jose Carter

You never played MB or FGO. Lion King was the one doing the same which isn't the same as what Goetia wanted to do, idiot.

Landon Green
Landon Green

I don't mind Shiki fucking her in Nero route

Eli Miller
Eli Miller

Now instead of a wider world
DAA never existed in FSN universe.
This is nothing but theory and funfiction.

Nicholas Ross
Nicholas Ross

But Guda characters appeared in animated versions.

Dominic Young
Dominic Young

Dead Apostles can exist in Fate/ timelines, they just don't reach DAA level.

Ian Bailey
Ian Bailey

No, fuck you.
I play FGO ongoing as well, and follow the story to the best of my ability, by whatever translations are available. It's not as different from those nips who also want Nasu to change things up as you want to believe. They feel the same neglect towards other franchises in favor of Fate, and I'm sure there are nips who aren't that into FGO shit and only play primarily because it's Type-Moon.

And even actual secondaries who don't follow GO at all have all the right to complain. What if they only like Tsukihime, or they only like VNs? Fact is, TM is wasting a lot of potential for actually good products, just because their current cash cow makes a lot more money with a lot less effort. It's perfectly reasonable to be mad about a mobage-only focus, even if FGO was the best fucking mobile game and TM story to ever exist.

Cameron Williams
Cameron Williams

He wrote the last chapter before he handed that. Nasu wants to leave type moon in their hands, if you actually follow anything he says. That's why link is written by higashide.

Eli Scott
Eli Scott

And Ciel and Kotomine were in the same church doom squad.
Kirei was never part of Burial Agency though

Jeremiah Hernandez
Jeremiah Hernandez

You're in minority. Sorry.

Owen Gutierrez
Owen Gutierrez

If you meant to type Shiki *raping* Extra Nero with violence and lust, then yes, I'm fully in support.

Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

What's so funny? Both Hakousai and Abigail are Meteo's doing, they are stuffed in irrelevant playable classes too. Your outer gods got sacrificed to become waifubait-buffers of characters completely unrelated to them.

Hudson Hernandez
Hudson Hernandez

Obviously.
That's what an 80% new fanbase does to a franchise.

Cameron Scott
Cameron Scott

Who is the true Scotsman here?

Lucas Torres
Lucas Torres

I play FGO ongoing as well
well go back to /vg/

Asher Cooper
Asher Cooper

No, Fai, you're secondary by definition and part of problem.

Tyler Sanders
Tyler Sanders

Tsukihime
More power levels and trash writing

Gabriel Davis
Gabriel Davis

FGO generals are shitholes.
No thank you.

Fai
Stop this boogeyman. I doubt he's even been on Cred Forums since fucking UBW.
Please do explain how I'm "part of the problem" in any possible way, when everything I say in this image board is completely worthless and will never reach Nasu's ears through his stacks of money. Don't worry, I'll never be able to derail TM's downfall and Nasu's spiral into more laziness.

Asher Turner
Asher Turner

N-no. Tsukihime is 10/10 VN with GOD TIER translation from Takajun (tm). Magnum Opus of TM. Only GO secondaries disagree.

William Collins
William Collins

cringe

Kevin Ward
Kevin Ward

Shirou get's his new body from girl whom gives Turkeyhandle his glasses
This is how I know you're a secondary.

Shiki gets his glasses from AOKO Aozaki.
Shirou's body is found in an abandoned TOUKO Aozaki's workshop, who is, you know, a big KNK character, a timeline that does exist within Fate or closeby since Fujino got incinerated along with her era.

And Redman timeline Shirou met Ciel.
That was just from CM III which holds 0 impact to the story since it was never actually mentioned. Furthermore, his appearances in the animu which covered his backstory didn't have him with it. So Nasu changed his mind.

And Ciel and Kotomine were in the same church doom squad.
Except they aren't. Ciel is a member of the Burial Agency, Kotomine isn't.

Levi Mitchell
Levi Mitchell

Type Moon is dead anyway after FGO is over. Nasu would be lucky if any of those people riding the Fate/Go hype train even remained after it is done. Nasu talent has already withered and his plans for trying to make successors for himself doesn't seen to have pan out that well for his fan-base. Once he is done trying to milk and destroyed all his old works he doesn't have anything left to show for himself since can't even create a new work entirely from scratch. Although, he doesn't have to worry about having to make any more works because he already rich enough to retire by FGO.

Isaiah Nguyen
Isaiah Nguyen

this falseflagging shit
when even the biggest Tsuki fans won't claim the VN is above 8/10, and not better than FSN on a technical level at least
Fuck off.

All of that might be true, but I can't just give up my hopes of TM finally putting out some good stuff whenever GO starts dying down (or after part 2) in a couple of years.

Aaron Russell
Aaron Russell

all those wrong facts
Are the anti FGOfags the true ignorant secondaries?

Hunter Russell
Hunter Russell

Please do explain how I'm "part of the problem"
What is your age and when you discovered TM.
You didn't grow up. You stagnating. Look how JP oldfags who read Tsuki in 2000 treating TM. Now look at you.

Ryan Gutierrez
Ryan Gutierrez

Shiki gets his glasses from AOKO Aozaki.
She did stole them from Touko and only make them indestructible though. But you right for the rest

Ayden James
Ayden James

You didn't explain how that makes me "part of the problem" at all.
Anyone who disagrees with the majority who now just take whatever they get from TM because they no longer have hopes remaining for anything genuinely great from Nasu is a "problem"? Type-Moon meaning different things to different people is a "problem"?
Eat shit.

Some of them.

Gabriel Harris
Gabriel Harris

So? He didn't have any contact with her, he got them from Aoko, and Touko is more a Mahoyo and KnK character (which alone is impossible to take place in Tsukihime according to Nasu).

Nasu simply chose to put his biggest success: KnK and Fate together. In the past he only associated Tsukihime with Fate out of popularity too. It's not rocket science he shoved it aside not due to Fate, but because of KnK, I'm not sure if you were aware, but Tsukihime was his attempt to promote KnK which was a failure first.

KnK now exists along with the main focus of his work.

Jordan Reed
Jordan Reed

M-m-moogy said TM is mainstream.
Only DDD fags are special.
What we can do now?

Camden Gray
Camden Gray

moogy
Fuck off.
He's wrong, FGO launched Fate to "mainstream" on a whole other level that further dilluted the focus of the series and what once made it any good.

Jayden Evans
Jayden Evans

Mahoyo is prequel to Tsukihime in a way. And DAA are mentioned in it so it's definitely not in Fate world.

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

Mahoyo is prequel to Tsukihime in a way.

And? Mahoyo was an even more incomplete sidework while KnK was a complete one. Touko is known not by Mahoyo but by KnK.

The point is irrelevant too, Nasu is just making his two hits share an universe. He saw male Shiki and female Shiki and approved female Shiki to exist in Fate instead because she's way more popular. This has nothing to do with Fate, it's because he's taking a bit of revenge of those years KnK was ignored.

Aiden Richardson
Aiden Richardson

He's wrong
Doubt. Moogy-chan has more knowledge about TM fanbase than Cred Forums.

Evan Gutierrez
Evan Gutierrez

KnK never was connected to FSN.

Jackson Martinez
Jackson Martinez

Actually he's not wrong in that particular pic, FGO NA had no effect in dilluting TM. I thought he was talking about FGO in general before looking at it.

Brayden Jenkins
Brayden Jenkins

@168736181
I hope no one seriously keeps replying to this ignorant/bait poster.

those years KnK was ignored.

Andrew Hughes
Andrew Hughes

Mahoyo is still incomplete
Multiple sequels confirmed
Haven't heard anything since

Ian Gonzalez
Ian Gonzalez

You have weird headcanon here. He separated Fate and Tsukihime universes and as he mentioned before you can't have both Shiki in the same universe so he thrown her in Fate

Julian Morales
Julian Morales

ignoring that KnK flopped until ufotable saved it from obscurity

Dylan Morgan
Dylan Morgan

brainlet wojaks are still up
Usually they're taken down faster.

Thomas Powell
Thomas Powell

KnK flopped
another anecdote

Jeremiah Thomas
Jeremiah Thomas

Shirou gets his puppet body from Touko's workshop
HURR it was never connected to FSN
??

Tyler White
Tyler White

Read interview with Nasu.

Luis Clark
Luis Clark

You're the same kind of person who says Mahoyo flopped, aren't you?
And the idea of Nasu personally "taking revenge" is laughable.

Mods decided this was the shitposting thread the moment they saw it was about GO, they know it attracts /vg/ crossboarders like flies.

Jack Smith
Jack Smith

Why do bitter faggots need to say they hate FGO every single second?

Parker Bailey
Parker Bailey

Tsuki is not connected to KnK
AOZAKI AOKO still in Tsuki
???
?
?

Easton Bailey
Easton Bailey

the focus of the series
What's the focus of Fate/ again?
Normal human MCs given plot devices that let them fight on par with superhumans who fought the likes of monsters and gods in their time?

Jonathan Edwards
Jonathan Edwards

mods see individual reported posts in a queue you shitposting retard

It's very important that you know.

Ian Allen
Ian Allen

Eat shit.
He does and he likes it. It's pretty pointless to argue with morons.

John Rogers
John Rogers

To derail threads. They can't discuss anything outside FSN lore. And wiki information about fgo is very limited.

Andrew Davis
Andrew Davis

What is transpiring there? It looks upsetting.

Joshua Rivera
Joshua Rivera

That's why no one arguing with him and you anymore, moron. It's pointless to argue with morons.

Xavier Stewart
Xavier Stewart

That's about right, yeah.
The ascension of a hero, and wether it's worthwhile to become a hero at all. Servants as heroic figures serve as a perfect backdrop to that.

Jackson Ramirez
Jackson Ramirez

She receives valentine's gifts from the girls, white day gifts from the boys and then the gift from her kouhai, Mashu, which is the main heroine of FGO.

Dylan Evans
Dylan Evans

Artoria Alter & Jeanne Alter scared to sleep alone after watching horror films

John Hernandez
John Hernandez

Stop talking to a mirror, faggot. Go end your shitty life.

Sebastian Cruz
Sebastian Cruz

no arguments
can't explain why different opinions from the majority are "part of the problem"
m-moron
Hilarious.

Blake Hernandez
Blake Hernandez

no u
Underage? This is 18+ board.

Camden Brooks
Camden Brooks

Some people told me that okita was artoria tier yet on the fgo general they told me she was kinda shit.Who is right?

James Howard
James Howard

I said it's shit!
arguments
oh
Answer this first
What is your age and when you discovered TM.

Caleb Ward
Caleb Ward

This is 18+ board.
GTFO then dumbfuck.

Lincoln Reyes
Lincoln Reyes

Hey, swank digs! Comfy atmosphere, too.

Bentley Bell
Bentley Bell

I was 15 or so.
Now please make an argument that isn't "lol grow up, you're not supposed to want good things anymore".

Chase Price
Chase Price

It was going so well before
If we are talking about secondaries, the community became infested with them when Zero came out back in 2011.
If we are talking about writing and cashgrab in generals then Extra was already a sign that of the franchise becoming cashcow. Fate GO might be the biggest offender, but its not like Fate in general was in great shape before it.

Easton Reed
Easton Reed

The ascension of a hero, and wether it's worthwhile to become a hero at all.
So the very thing Chaldea as a whole indirectly did.

be Chaldea
save the fucking world
has to hide the involvement of your only human field operative because the Mage Association are massive assholes and you have to protect your field operative
Clock Tower tries to fucking disband your organisation for being too strong when your field operative and staff worked their ass off to save the world despite them knowing very well that everyone else on the planet is dead
continue saving the world afterwards, cleaning up the mess every other organisation failed to clean up(Salem), while Mage Association throws a fucking restriction on how strong your servants can be the whole time, getting in your way of saving the world

Evan Barnes
Evan Barnes

In game, Okita is better than Artoria, but Quick cards took a major hit after Merlin arrived on the scene.

Nicholas Green
Nicholas Green

I do like the aesthetic effort put into goddamn RPGMaker.

Logan Peterson
Logan Peterson

Then why did she break down?

Hunter Martin
Hunter Martin

No sword beam, shit fake saber. Only good for genki and footjobs.

Lucas Sanchez
Lucas Sanchez

How very Tokyo-3.

Christian Walker
Christian Walker

I was talking about FSN exclusively, the rest of the franchise doesn't have (nor should it have) a cohesive theme.
The problem with GO is just being a bad game, and way too much stupidly written shit mixed with the good ideas. Romani is much closer to Nasu's insistence on "is it worth it to be a hero?" regardless.

"Chaldea" is not a character and the MC is utter trash.

Jeremiah Perez
Jeremiah Perez

was asking lorewise

Nicholas Walker
Nicholas Walker

Maybe she's finished the Valentine's event and snaps out of her grinding trance.

Liam Davis
Liam Davis

Summon greatest heroes of history
Not having EPIC fights
That's a fucking waste. Apocrypha's Battle Royale it's a feast for the eyes.

Alexander Bell
Alexander Bell

You're biased against FGO because FSN was your baby's first VN. There is nothing I can do. No matter how good chapters written by Nasu in FGO, they will remain bad in your eyes. After 10-11 years you're still obsessed over FSN like a madman. You probably think it's some kind of WoD. You're stagnating. And you still don't know Japanese. How can I change your opinion? I can't open your eyes.

Isaiah Howard
Isaiah Howard

Artoria tier
No way. Artoria is currently the worst SSR servant in FGO Okita is much better than her gameplaywise.
fgo general they told me she was kinda shit.Who is right?
Anybody who doesn't have a buster NP is considered shit to these people now because of Merlin but since Merlin doesn't exist in NA version yet this is a stupid point to make. Okita was servant that was used most in Saber Wars.

Cooper Cruz
Cooper Cruz

Apocrypha's Battle Royale it's a feast for the eyes.
And you actually expect to be treated seriously?

Noah Butler
Noah Butler

No matter how good chapters written by Nasu in FGO, they will remain bad in your eyes.
But that's wrong you nigger.
I really like the Camelot and Extra CCC chapters. I just lament how they're wasted on a mostly terrible game.
But sure, keep eating shit and thinking only nostalgiafags would disagree with you.

Carson Collins
Carson Collins

Fate Extra ruined Fate, it was downhill from there.

Noah Diaz
Noah Diaz

No one in this threads is ever treated seriously so fuck it.

Josiah Ramirez
Josiah Ramirez

Lore wise, you're better off summoning Sasaki Kojiro as a Servant because they can both do a Tsubame Gaeshi type technique. While Okita is a better swordsman, her tuberculosis means that she can collapse at any time. Kojiro has the same stats as Okita actually (STR: C CON: E AGI: A+ MGI: E) but his luck is better (D vs A) and his abilities are better: Okita has weak magic resistance and riding, while Kojiro has low presence concealment, eye of the mind fake, vitrification, and knowledge of respect and harmony.

Luke Roberts
Luke Roberts

It explores quite a few different settings.

Matthew Ortiz
Matthew Ortiz

I said FGO is shit u eat shit
Nothing to expect from EOP secondary.

Nicholas Garcia
Nicholas Garcia

The point about all of this is that the idea of bringing 7 beings of different folklore, legends, myths together into a kind of tournament to fight to the death to be granted a wish became very popular, with people. When in truth, that wasn't the core point of Stay Night. If anything the servants were treated more as extras to fill the plotline that Stay Night was going for. The reason why TM "elitists" despise Fate outside of the VNs is because Nasu has appealed more and more to the people that only cared about the aspect of Servants fighting to the death. You can start to see signs of this in Extra, a lot more so in Apo and then FGO takes the cake by literally removing other Masters and making it exclusively about the Servants. For a lot of people, this is great as that's really only part of Fate they actually gave a shit about, whereas some longtime TM fans feel betrayed because one idea Nasu came up with became popular with the masses and instead of ignoring it, he chose to appeal to theses individuals over his current fans.

Personally I don't really mind as I've found each Fate work to have its own kind of charm but I can understand why older fans are annoyed.

Dylan Campbell
Dylan Campbell

Funny how Fatetards treat their franchise much more seriously than Nasu ever fucking did.
waaaah muh secondaries
waaaah muh FGO ruined everything
Move on with your lives, you don't hate to consume every shitty thing that comes out from the franchise. For me everything ended with HF and I haven't even bothered to touch anything Fate since Hollow/Ataraxia came out.

Luis Foster
Luis Foster

fgo ruined fate!
synchros ruined yugioh!
[arc after my favorite arc] ruined dragon ball!
kage summit ruined naruto!
2008 newfags ruined Cred Forums!
I heard this too many times...

Jayden Young
Jayden Young

Fate should've ended with sn honestly.
Leave the rest to the fans and create something new, after all you have the new platform set up.

Matthew Barnes
Matthew Barnes

Only the VNs were good.
You're hardly any better.

Gavin Edwards
Gavin Edwards

To be fair the stuff after sunchro fucked over Yu-gh-oh. I dueled someone was using modern cards and they destroyed me in 3 fucking turns. I won the second round because I could actually play my cards, but lost in the third.

Dominic Sanchez
Dominic Sanchez

Shit hit the fan with Zero and you know it.
That is when TM when the way of having Undertale fans.

Caleb Sanchez
Caleb Sanchez

went*

Kevin Wright
Kevin Wright

Man, I remember the Old Fate threads. They were full of wall-text, powerlevel fags and autism, but they were unironically fun.
From, of course coincidentally, the release of the NA server of Fate/GO, they became quite cancerous. There is still powerlevelfags, waifufags and the same topics, but the content is far worst. At least oldfags knew their shit.

Chase Russell
Chase Russell

I cares about fanbase more than about personnel enjoyment
Your'e cancer

Ethan Sullivan
Ethan Sullivan

but they were unironically fun.
garbage copypasta abotu sakura vs rin for 300+ posts
copy pasting posts from archive for fake discussion
How about no?

Bentley Hill
Bentley Hill

Fate threads have been cancerous since NA FGO released.
Longer than that user. At least since UBW anime aired.

Elijah Watson
Elijah Watson

Nah, there has been teasing about a Fate/prototype show though

Elijah Mitchell
Elijah Mitchell

I know hell when I see it.
Too bad I entered prior to shit hitting the fan.

Brody Lewis
Brody Lewis

you mean zero

Jace Murphy
Jace Murphy

I never said that only the novels were good, I still went to watch HF on cinemas and read the Zero light novel and Prisma Illya seems fun.

John Jenkins
John Jenkins

So is this a permanent migration? I thought we were going to try and cuddle up the mods on Cred Forums and go back home were it all started.

Kevin Cox
Kevin Cox

Fate threads were always cancer. Since DEEN anime. Since UBW patch "leak"

Hunter Rogers
Hunter Rogers

What would Type Moon by today had FGO never happened?
More VNs? More console games? More spinoffs?

Blake Reed
Blake Reed

More VNs
no
More console games
no
More spinoffs?
yes

Camden Young
Camden Young

More
More nothing.
Just more shitposting about CCC never being translated, since Extra would be the big thing.

Colton Hughes
Colton Hughes

It would be same but without GO. A clusterfuck of spin offs and fanservice material.

Jaxson Turner
Jaxson Turner

Threads would be dead too.

Jaxon Parker
Jaxon Parker

fgo is the best and worst thing happen to typer moon accept it guy and stop crying

Easton Hernandez
Easton Hernandez

Without FGO we'd probably have more news about Tsukihime, but Nasu is still doing work on all the anime adaptations so it isn't as if he's fully devoted to writing any VNs.

Isaac Jackson
Isaac Jackson

So is Prisma.

Easton Anderson
Easton Anderson

You're delusional. As example Mahoyo is 10 hours long kinetic VN. And this is not even GO fault

Michael Young
Michael Young

What else is there though, if you remove the shonen powerlevel bullshit? Shirou isn't an interesting character. All the other characters are waifu bait. (Literally. It's an eroge.) All the pseudo-philosophical bullshit only appealed to people who likely hadn't read any real literature before anyway. The only appealing part of Fate is:

1. Over-the-top fights between quirky japanese interpretations of famous historical characters

2. Attractive character designs

That's it. Of course the plebs who actually identified with Shirou and his average harem fantasy are going to be upset when the series plays to its actual strengths, but that's what happens if you want appeal someone more than just the core audience of all of 100 people, who would be too pissed off at TM doing anything different anyway because they're too attached to their favorite characters. (muh shirou, muh saber, muh rin, etc. etc.)

Jace Sanders
Jace Sanders

I love fate.

Leo Scott
Leo Scott

pseudo-philosophical bullshit
fate
oh

Benjamin Williams
Benjamin Williams

She also have a second NP which can summon her buddies for help so she is slightly better than Kojiro.

Josiah Powell
Josiah Powell

And? Mahoyo parts 2 and 3 were going to come after Tsukihime R, and there's no way that would come faster without Nasu on it full time.

Bentley Cook
Bentley Cook

Whatever you fags say, biggest victim here is Melty stuck in limbo.

Aaron Turner
Aaron Turner

HOW CAN YOU CALL YOURSELF A HERO OF JUSTICE UNLESS YOU'RE WILLING TO KILL LITERALLY EVERYONE!?
I'M TOO STUPID TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT I WILL FIGHT YOU!!
Cue hours of monologue from Shirou about the trolley problem. Fucking yawn.

Zachary Allen
Zachary Allen

Idiots paid real life money to RNG roll some pixel waifus and this trash game got 1 billions revenue. Have we humanity peaked as a specie?????????

Liam Martin
Liam Martin

But it's never been the trolley problem. The trolley problem is something Kiritsugu deals with as the man who always pulls the lever, not Shirou.
Shirou doesn't want there to be a trolley at all. The scenario of the trolley problem would crush his ideal to a pulp, and it does just that in Heavens Feel where it brings him to his knees and makes him change his entire way of life.

Angel Gutierrez
Angel Gutierrez

There is nothing pseudo-philosophical about it. If you call it "pseudo-philosophical" you're
only appealed to people who likely hadn't read any real literature before anyway
this patient. Ironical isn't it? Did you skip literature classes in school?

Julian Phillips
Julian Phillips

and her coat raises her parameters too

Kayden Campbell
Kayden Campbell

Idiots paid real life money to RNG roll some pixel waifus
Iditos have been paying real life money to RNG roll some symbols in the hope of getting some of their money back since 1890. Its nothing new.

Leo Jones
Leo Jones

Ironical
I rest my case.

Nathaniel Cox
Nathaniel Cox

What about that one where saber and Medusa run up a building and then she fires her sword laser and there's a flying horse. That one was cool. And the only real negative consequence is Shinji dying who no one cares about

Justin Morris
Justin Morris

Idiots pay money to experience things wtf
If be laughing if you two weren't so sad.

Jack Anderson
Jack Anderson

Paying money to roll some symbols or a waifu is experiencing things
I'd be laughing if you weren't so sad

Bentley Baker
Bentley Baker

Not much different to people who pay for loot boxes or micro transactions.

Carson Bailey
Carson Bailey

Why pay money to travel when you can just look at pictures.

Matthew Hall
Matthew Hall

travel
some symbols or a waifu
Really makes you think.

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