ITT: High IQ, high skill ceiling roles

>posting any of the overwatch characters

>I only know how to use Deflect one way

Overwatch skill ceiling is as high as a basement, so ill believe you there

That's the Steel Samurai

>reinhardt sized reflect hit boxes
>reset on assist or kill long distance instant free damage/escape
>no damage drop-off high damage projectile
>double jump
>wall climb
>retard proof ult that kills half the roster in 2 hits if you are even remotely looking at them
Nah nigga

he sounds cool as heck, I'll look him up

what is that image from, that's fucking hilarious.

>Quickplay
>the entire enemy team goes Genji

>try to shoot a teleporter next to him
>kill myself with deflect
Nice meme.

>most OP character in the game for a while
>high skill
Fuck off.

Its just quickplay bro

I'm talking about now dickhead

>Overwatch at all having anywhere near a high skill ceiling

demoman takes skill

nice meme

>High IQ
Not all of them, that's for sure. I played QP this afternoon and the enemy team had 4 Genjis. I went Winston and just had a ball, because none of them would switch.

zarya is the highest skill ceiling character as of last update

How fucking new is a Cred Forums user that they don't recognize this quote.

Everytime I come here, I see reckless newfaggotry.

Go back to Goybook

Please explain to me whats high skill about a character that
>has fast walk speed
>can jump and double jump, plus climb you arent even fully looking at and then double jump some more to get away and not even that, can use switf strike to get away some more
>has or had a combo in which it used an exploit to cancel out animations to do huge damage
>has 200 life for high mobility fag where as Tracer has 150
>deflect in his kit that seems to deflect everything around him up to 5 meters except for like 2-3 guns
>has a kit that can be used while you ultimate
>an ultimate that consistently wipes out an entire team and only recently was it brought down from 8 to 6 seconds
Whats high skill about that? Whats high skill about a character that can almost every game at the pro level decide who wins? The team with the best Genji is the one that wins a lot.

tl;dr I want Mercy on my dick

overwatch requires minimum skill. It's the embodiment of a casual babby game

Isn't envyus the best pro team by far? I rarely see them running Genji.

Who wouldn't?

Tracer can instantly get back to full health by pressing her panic button, Genji cannot.
Tracer still has way better mobility than Genji because of blink.
Tracer is smaller and harder to target than Genji.

and pts 2-3 are no longer an issue so idk why you brought it up again

>an ultimate that consistently wipes out an entire team
I can never take you fags seriously when this is brought up.

So... are you gonna stream it?

Just what I was going to post

kung pow

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>Tracer can instantly get back to full health by pressing her panic button, Genji cannot.
And Genji can deflect everything coming at him instead. EVERYTHING. Rockets, Tracer's bomb, bullets, arrows. Dude, only like Harambe's gun and the Dykes do shit to him. Besides, Tracer has 150 life, the fact that she can recall or whatever doesnt practically make her a 300 life character, thats not how it works.
>Tracer still has way better mobility than Genji because of blink.
Better "speed" yeah but, mobility? Debatable. Blink doesnt work up and down after all.
>Tracer is smaller and harder to target than Genji.
GTFO. Theyre both probably the same. Maybe Genji is even smaller since he is a manlet that crouches when he stands. Im going to keep posting Mercy because you guys are faggots.

I love how people are in denial about Genji's relative difficulty just because he's a steong character and people that mastered him are valuable additions to the team.

Let's compare him to other attackers:
Soldier
Basic as fuck, hitscan, self heal, good escape options with sprint, high burst damage and a no brainer ult

McCree
Hitscan, high and easy to pull off burst damage, more than decent range, but lacks mobility and his ult requires a sense of positioning

Tracer
The easiest attacker. High dps,, hitscan, safe as fuck to play because you can escape almost anything AND have a "oh I fucked up button". The ult recharges so fast that you don't need to aim.

Pharah
Very mobile. Actually hard to aim because you have to lead shots and play little mind games at long ranges as to where your opponent goes. Highly vulnerable to hitscan enemies and a very situational ult. Her pulse bomb is hard to use effectively for movement

Reaper
High dps hitscan, no brainer ult, a button that makes him invincible AND faster, selft sustaining by eating souls, high HP and somewhat mobile

Now Genji
No hitscan and NO splash damage unlike pharah which makes her weapon forgiving. Deflect is a total mind game at higher ranks and you need to know how to aim with every projectile in the game to deflect consistently. The ult requires help or a very good set up and you need to pick your targets carefully. After his dash and reflect he is very vulnerable and a sitting duck.

He requires you to actually make use of those movement mechanics to be effective.

He's not hard, but for overwatch heros the bar is set so low that he's basically on the top by default.

Good pick. If IQ looks in the direction of gunfire she falls over and dies.

>deflect rockets
just shoot next to thim, he can't deflect explosions

tracer is one of the shortest heroes, genji is quite tall which makes he easier to target

>the fact that she can recall or whatever doesnt practically make her a 300 life character, thats not how it works.

Not necessarily. if you recall after losing 75 health she gains a momentary invincibility & invisibility and is back at full health in most cases, then after a few seconds she can do it again. this combo makes her very hard to kill unless shut down by mccree stun

Cant, his deflect catches shit beyond the actual animation shows.
>Not necessarily
>if you recall after losing 75 health she gains a momentary invincibility & invisibility
>this combo makes her very hard to kill
Yes, necessarily. I would expect Tracer to be invulnerable while she is recalling derp, she is supposed to be going back in time. This however doesnt mean she goes invisible, a little aura appears when she pops back just like the one when she activates it. And what combo? Recalling is no combo, its just an ability in her kit.

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You aren't deflecting any valid point you support main shitter, keep nitpicking

Genji from Overwatch.

>Tracer to be invulnerable while she is recalling derp
Yeah well i'm not talking about the lore ramifications or any unnecessary stuff just the effect of her going invincible and that's what she does, become invincible (and invisible)

>This however doesnt mean she goes invisible
You cannot tell where she respawns if she doesn't stay too long (tracer never does by design because of low HP). You can only estimate which makes her even more unpredictable to fight against.

The combo of recall is
1. momentary invisibility
2. momentary invulnerability
3. teleport to previous location
4. health fully replenishes

instantly in effect at the press of 'E'

you're nuts m8 if you think genji's super special ~climbing~ and ~double jumping~ requires less skill than using recall to get out of any situation

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>video games
>high iq

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>spamming and holding space is harder than pressing e so genji is high skill!

Wow, you sure showed me, what a valid argument. I hope Genji gets another nerf donw the line so that you get even more assblasted.
>going invincible and that's what she does
You cant shoot her while she is recalling and she cant shoot you. There is nothing wrong about this.
>You cannot tell where she respawns if she doesn't stay too long
>You can only estimate which makes her even more unpredictable to fight against
What are you trying to say here? Surely not that a good player using recall to good effect means that recall is OP or something right?
Again, using recall is no combo.
>you're nuts m8 if you think genji's super special ~climbing~ and ~double jumping~ requires less skill than using recall to get out of any situation
And no, nobody argued for this at all at any time. I would say doing both of those things require no skill at all.

Between the oversized hitbox for deflect and pharah's near non existent splash damage, you can't do anything significant.

it's not about pressing buttons but about the effect of pressing the button

space = jump (available to all heroes)

e = invis/invuln/teleport/replenish (tracer only)

I think you're smart enough to decide which of the two increases your surviveability

I never used the word OP so I guess my point of it being a very powerful skill is translating to you (relative to the mystical 'double jump')

I originally had "is superior to" instead of "requires less skill" which I mistakenly replaced, but only because the ultimate point is that Genji requires more skill then Tracer, but it indeed leads to it. Pressing E to use recall makes Tracer harder-to-kill than Genji spamming double jumps which leads to the fact that Genji is easier to kill than Tracer which leads to the fact Genji requires more skill to play than Tracer.

>Genji is easier to kill than Tracer which leads to the fact Genji requires more skill to play than Tracer.
>Zarya is harder to kill than anyone
Zarya highest skill ceiling confirmed.

think you should've re-read your post before submitting it

space = double jump/wallclimb (genji only)
e = tracer moves a short distance back while regaining health before being annihilated again

I'm not sure what I'm expecting from someone trying to say that genji is hard to play, but are you really telling me you have trouble dealing with tracer's recall? If you really have that much trouble with it, why don't you stick with your team or remember where she was?

Fantastic comeback, dumb healslut faggot

Tracer cant spam recall or blinks, Genji can spam jumps and double jumps of the real kind not mystical ones, plus occasional Swift Strike. Tracer 150 life Genji 200. Dont know who is easier to to kill, depends on the person doing to killing, his character and skill. But, you wont find agreement here in the meme that Genji is a high IQ high skill character.

Pretty much shut down this thread.

It takes way more skill to take down a character that flies through the air, double jumps instantly can close a 20ft gap, and moves 4x the speed of everyone else except tracer.

The only requirement for being good at Genji is to not be a fucking retard, otherwise, taking down any half intelligent Genji player requires more tactic, skill, and strategy than the Genji has to exert in any given fight.

youtube.com/user/OnceDeli/videos

Youre a sad lonely faggot. Just because you propagate this stupid ass only to be used by fedora wearing neckbeards "healslut" meme, doesnt mean that you actually become a woman and a slut when playing a female healer as you hope it would. In this case Mercy.
Thank you for the compliment though, I tried.

>Zarya
>Skill
>the caharacter that rewards you for getting shot
>the character that allows you to shield other people
>the character whose monster sized health is half shields that can recharge
>the character that allows you to have a grenade launcher aside from your laser
>skill

Yeah, nah.

Granted I like wieners

Fat is where it's at.

I just got done fapping user, but thanks. I'll check it out tomorrow.

>I'm not sure what I'm expecting from someone trying to say that genji is hard to play

I'm not saying that. Don't make things up to save face (because that matters to you somehow when you're anonymous?). The case is made that Tracer is harder to play than Genji when that is not the case.

>but are you really telling me you have trouble dealing with tracer's recall?

you moron, come back when you learn how to argue

>moves 4x the speed of everyone else except tracer.

you come off stupid af because he moves at the same speed as tracer and only a little bit faster than the rest. have you even played the game you're talking about?

np

You seem to be too retarded to be able to comprehend a mild exaggeration. You should stop posting since you come off as a dick riding faggot who can't stand a criticism being directed at your favorite video game.

ITT people that have never played CS:GO, Quake, TF2 or even Halo.

>mild exaggeration
>genji moves 6m/s
>almost everyone else move 5.5m/s

>4 times = mild exaggeration

If you want to practice being a retard there's a board for that (/s4s/), so fuck off if you're just going to bump it with a valueless reply

Lol @ this mad ass sperg getting so butt upset he forgot the fact that Genji just teleports 20feet every 8 seconds.

That's not movement speed you dumb cucc; and Tracer also teleports very fast (albeit faster and further)

but keep bumping the thread it might inhibit your flaring autism

just hopping in the thread to say that this is a mercy main who is salty because he can't deal with genjis permanently harassing him

maybe if you played literally any other hero that isn't entirely useless except for her Q you'd be able to fight gengus just fine

Master the Chief

sauce

>game not related

No one is OW has a high skill ceiling. Genji nay take more skill compared to every other OW fuckwit, but they are all low skill characters

No one was making the case that Tracer was harder to play until you brought it up either nigger, she was simply being referenced for health because she also has high mobility. The entire point of the thread was that genji is and likely always will be an overpowered character with several escapes and more retard proofing than most of the cast, tracer included.

>hur dur i got owned even tho am a pro professional
>the game must suck

Free exp. cool.

>more retard proofing than most of the cast, tracer included.

What? Did you not read what recall does? It's literally a panic button so that you avoid death. Stop ignoring the posts above regarding recall, you may learn something.

>high damage projectile
Literally gets out DPSed by fucking Mercy.

>high damage projectile
>dps
Fucking autist holy shit

that gets beaten by an ape and his bug zapper

that gets beaten by literally everyone else

>genjimains thought they have high iq and skill just because they play him
no

not by widowmaker or mercy

Genji takes years of experiance.

they're literally the fedoramen of overwatch

1v1 yes, who the hell tries to 1v1 harambe as wm or mercy tho

Uh oh, I guess because tracer has one ability that helps her out, that totally gets rid of the two genji has (one with a resetting cool down any time someone you farted on dies) and the passive escapes, and means he is harder to play!

So are McCree mains

OW is just a fedora game

>gets BTF
>A-autist!
Get fucked shitter. Hope you have fun with your 4 tank stack meta after all the mean "OP" DPS heroes get nerfed into the ground faggot.

And don't even try that Genji main nonsense because I probably have double the hours in Mercy the fag in this thread has.

It is not a meme, sadly

>damage control
>over being a fucking autist
Faggot

>tfw playing bastion
>genji rushing towards me using his swift strike, removing any chance to escape
>start firing at him
>he starts deflecting, instantly stop.
>he realizes what's happening and his horror is palatable.
>BRRRRRRRT
>RIP average genji main, destroyed by the most basic of tactics
>mfw
Genji's and Hanzo's are so fucking predictable it's ridiculous. More so Hanzo because he's useless as fuck, despite firing literal logs. If anything he needs to be removed entirely and recombined back into Genji 's old design.

reminder if you arent at least diamond your opinions on anything overwatch related don't matter at all.

This is how an argument loops around because morons enter it without bothering to educate themselves. Do you really think double jump + wall climbing is superior to the 4 things in "one ability that helps her out" being a little vague there huh?

No, I don't, and that's why I keep including his other two abilities, which you seem to conveniently tiptoe around to continue with your strawman.

Dude, for the last time, recall does not make Tracer invisible. She teleports! Not go invisible and escape to where ever she wants. Tracer hater.

>That's not movement speed

He catapults himself through the sky with a double jump and a swift strike leaving him flying at terminal velocity, can be seen perfectly at 0:34

youtube.com/watch?v=-aPU12MK7TA

Stay mad you're wrong and also gay and retarded.

None can match my IQ

I wouldn't know, I'm a student at the University of Dublin, Trinity College, so I can use the Trinity College Gym, which is open to students at the University of Dublin, Trinity College, since we have Trinity College Dublin Student Cards. As a gym goes, it's pretty good, more than sufficient for a student at the University of Dublin, Trinity College, it's a great place to hang out and meet other Winners (TM), since you know, Trinners is for Winners. As a student at the University of Dublin, Trinity College, I only socialise with other students from the University of Dublin, Trinity College.

OP, are you a student at the University of Dublin, Trinity College? If you are, you can use the Trinity College Dublin Gym, which is open to all students registered in the University of Dublin, Trinity College.

>tfw forever 2800s

You don't think doublejump+wallclimb is superior to recall? I glad we're on the same page.

>which you seem to conveniently tiptoe around to continue with your strawman.
wha?

why are you posting about a game you don't play? this was patched weeks ago.

anyways that still isn't movement speed you dumb retard

>posts for diamond +
>probably isn't even platinum
post proof or leave, up to you

>flying through the air at 200mph isn't movement speed

Not him

Wall climb vaulting wasn't patched you gay nigger. His auto cancel combo was. Vaulting allows Genji to retain his momentum from swift strike through a normal jump. He can launch himself absurd distances with it.

He's still not OP and never was, but both of you need to educate yourselves if you're going to have a serious argument.

>wha?
Your argument that Tracer is easier to play than genji because recall is more powerful than wall jump and climb.

lol all overwatch characters have half the skill ceiling as a heavy,

>genji can move 4x as fast as everyone.......only on the map at the beginning if you're attacking and can land this neat trick which was patched weeks ago

keep moving the goalposts nigger

alright

see last paragraph of (no more loops please)

The "TF2 takes more skill to play than Overwatch" meme needs to die desu.

Only thing that's more difficult is rocket jumping. That's a skill that only one class has access to, and that's mitigated by how much larger his splash damage and projectile speed is compared to Pharah. Fite me.

here you go. hit diamond to get my season reward and started playing lucio no healing only speed boost wall riding listening to this song. youtube.com/watch?v=p4b6S7pKa4o

Never said he was OP, just said he didn't require skill.

Why even bother responding to me if in the same post you admit you were wrong and are also admitted to being retarded?

As low as ow's ceiling might be, by the way everyone talks in this thread I doubt there's one who comes even close to reaching it lol

It's not exclusive to one area. It can be performed anywhere you can wall climb onto a flat surface. It wasn't patched.

Stop arguing if you don't know what the hell you're talking about God damn.

TF2 certainly has a more skilled community than Overwatch, which isn't saying much considering Overwatch has a community consisting of CoD kids with no standards who thought a 15tickrate multiplayer game was "super competitive" and act like cancer at every opportunity they get

Pro tip, mr. "high IQ": what you want to brag about is high skill floor.

You're patently and verifiably wrong if you think the TF2 community is at all skilled on average when I could pub stomp my very first game (which was also my very first time playing a shooter on PC). The TF2 playerbase is fucking braindead.

I admit I used the wrong 3 words, but sounds like you have no actual thoughtful reply except calling me a retard after I raised the appropriate evidence. Now you'll exit the thread because I'm right? That's fine

You're still moving the fucking goalposts by saying he can move 4x as fast for a short period if he executes some obscure trick nobody seems to exploit in a public game

What exactly am I supposed to see in here? Nothing you've written would explain how tracer recalling makes her easier to play than genji reflecting any damage he wants, instantly traveling 15 meters in any direction he wants (while dealing 50 damage to anything in this direction) all while potentially double jumping around the field and climbing on it. Not to mention the fact tracer recalling can sometimes make her easier to kill, because I know exactly where she's going to show up.

I don't really give a shit about TF2, it's just undeniably beyond every shadow of a doubt 20x more skilled of a userbase than Overwatch.

Better networking and hitboxes though are a big help in that, but also not being a console FPS game ported to PC with actual competitive features like private servers and LAN too.

Not to mention the fact that it has had a following thats existed like a decade and Overwatch is just a meme game that died after a month.

Beyond all of this, despite the fact that Overwatch players have a completely unwarranted sense of self importance and skill; it would all be forgivable if the grown ass console converts of Overwatch weren't such insufferable shitheels that have harbored one of the worst communities in video games. Nobody takes themselves more seriously or is more invested in the classes other people play enough to outright yell at them every game even if that person is carrying the game.

>the overwatch community chewed me up and spat me out

i'm crying for you familia

Yeah, I can comment on how intolerable the CoD community is too.(which is where the Overwatch players came from)

Doesn't mean they chew up anything.

What happened to all those asspained genji mains who were crying bloody murder over the nerfs when he's still a god-tier pubstomper?

Ignoring that half of your post is purely memes, you're still wrong. No one should be able to dominate and carry an entire team on their very first game on an entirely new platform against a dedicated and well established community.

Networking and hitboxes has nothing to do with how skilled the playerbase is. Most people aren't even aware of these things. More importantly, it still doesn't stop the casual as fuck playerbase of TF2 from complaining about Pyro, the worst class in the game. Even though he's effectively useless precisely because of TF2's networking and hitboxes.

No one should post a bait this big and not get at least a pity (You).

what code, my dude

>Networking and hitboxes has nothing to do with how skilled the playerbase is.

Exactly what I'd expect from a Call of Overwatch fan.

The irony of how bad Overwatch is being that it seems like people got shot less running behind cover when the game was on its Console Standard tickrate before upping it.

Overwatch has a ways to go before it can even claim to compare to TF2's competitve scene. Being defined by being the mirror image to CoD's community is not doing it any favors.

>TF2's competitive scene
What a laff. Have your (You). (You) earned it.

I don't partake in it -

I'm just pointing out that unlike Overwatch, TF2 actually has one.

They both have one you shitposting memelord. TF2's is just laughably small to the point that it may as well not exist. It's fucking evolve tier in terms of competitive scenes.

This is seriously pathetic

It's just TF2 with everything tailored to be more accessible to babies

lower skill floor lower skill ceiling boom you got overwatch

I mean, playing it for even a short time was painful, it is so painfully slow and makes every role so painfully obvious to as to make you feel "competitive" when you do well

It is just so fucking bad

>They both have one

Oh? Where are the LAN tournaments? PUGs? Ladders?

It doesn't have any? Then it has no competitive scene. Hell, Call of Duty has more of a competitive scene than Overwatch and it doesn't have private servers either.

>I'm just pointing out that unlike Overwatch, TF2 actually has one.
There's literally nearly always some sort of competitive shit going on with Overwatch, what the fuck are you smoking?

>high IQ
>high skill
>autistic FPS games

wew

Two people can call each other cock suckers and act overly competitive about rock paper scissors, too, doesn't mean that it has an actually recognizable competitive scene.

Overwatch has none of the features which actually skilled FPS players desire in a competitive FPS.

Why does it have to be LAN? Overwatch has tournaments all the fucking time.
No point when comp mode exists
Comp mode exists

Just stop shitposting

>There's a scene
>But it's not a REAL scene
You can't be serious.

Yeah we could also play Quake via carrier pigeon it doesn't mean the experience is equivalent to actually playing the game on the best network possible like actual competitive scenes do.

>you should respect my Rock Paper Scissors tournament because it is every bit as legitimate as something like Chess

You can't be for real right now

youtube.com/watch?v=_eanWnL3FtM

>high skill ceiling?
>spam jump key
>spam right mouse
>broken isn't skill

You were trying trying to say Overwatch didn't have a competitive scene. You are wrong and there is plentiful amounts of evidence saying so.

Now you're attempting to move the goalposts and say it doesn't count because they don't use LAN? Is this correct?

>all of these Overwatch dickriders literally defending a lack of LAN capability or private servers or any sort of skill required because it has a casual matchmaking game mode with a sticker on it that says "compet"

I don't get it.

Why don't Overwatch fans WANT a better game? Are they happy that the skill ceiling is at the bottom of the barrel? Because that's what they're saying.

THICC

>now you are saying that overwatch doesnt have a competitive scene because it doesnt have a competitive scene?

Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

For instance, CS GO has a shitty ranked matchmaking lobby too, doesn't mean that's the quantification of its competitive scene. It has tons of privately run tournaments, ladders, and other avenues of competition that Overwatch will never have because its community has 0 standards and essentially enjoy the game being like the Call of Duty they grew up on.

Custom games are essentially the same thing as private servers.

The only thing you are correct about is the lack of LAN, but when every player is connected to the same network and in a custom game the difference is so tiny it might as well not exist.

Just because playing any role in FFXIV

>Custom games are essentially the same thing as private servers.

LOL

>the difference is so tiny it might as well not exist.

Hahahah, yeah there's no difference at all between 20 tick and LAN.

None.

My sides.

>they have Genji
>choose Winston and hunt them down and harass the fuck out of them
>they switch to reaper
EVERY FUCKING TIME

Why do you keep bringing up this other shit as if Overwatch doesn't have it? I already told you it does.

All I'm seeing is that you don't think it's competitive because no one does LAN and the lack of LAN means there's no skill required.
Maybe it's time to graduate from that ancient dial up connection, because this isn't the 90s anymore.

>CS has a long standing community and is a game that has been around for well over a decade
>Overwatch is a new IP that has been out less than four months
>But it won't have this stuff because I said so and it can't be competitive because of this
I can't even.

It isn't 20 tick

>i-im only pretending to be bad

>>But it won't have this stuff because I said so and it can't be competitive because of this

Blizzard will never add private servers or LAN to Overwatch. The community has established that so long as you make a casual pubbie matchmaking system and just tell them its """"""""""""""""""Competitive"""""""""""""""""" that they'll believe you and defend Blizzards lack of inclusion of actual competitive facets.

>this isn't the 90s anymore.

Then why are you happy with 20 tick?

No one was happy with 20 tick. Which is why it isn't 20 tick.

Just admit you have no idea what you're talking about already. This is getting old and it's 3 in the morning.

>Blizzard will never add private servers or LAN to Overwatch.
Who the fuck cares? Custom games exist and cover that problem just fine.
Lack of private servers just means less host fuckery and stupid game settings.

>Then why are you happy with 20 tick?
1. Custom games aren't 20 tick and if they haven't already fixed it, 60 tick is coming to regular matches soon
2. I don't give a shit because I don't take Overwatch seriously anyways.
The fact that you constantly bring up the matchmaking is making me wonder if you didn't get rated poorly and are offended because of it.

I just fought a really bad Genji, fucking retard. I know Genji is a fucking amazing attack AND defense hero, but this guy don't know how to play him. When I go Genji on defense I do really well, but my team never understands and always talks shit.

Both the professional Genji and the Edgelord are characters exclusively for faggots, makes sense.

>Blizzard not allowing a real competitive scene is a g-good thing!
>But don't say the game isn't competitive

Blizzdrones everybody

>counter them
>they counter you
What a surprise.

>Genji
>High skill

Hanzo was like the only character with a high skill ceiling, but now he shoots logs again. Also:

>Characters in OW
>High IQ

You won't find high IQ roles in shooters you fuckwad. They're the most casualized shit out there.

>I wouldn't know, I'm a student at the University of Dublin, Trinity College, so I can use the Trinity College Gym, which is open to students at the University of Dublin, Trinity College, since we have Trinity College Dublin Student Cards. As a gym goes, it's pretty good, more than sufficient for a student at the University of Dublin, Trinity College, it's a great place to hang out and meet other Winners (TM), since you know, Trinners is for Winners. As a student at the University of Dublin, Trinity College, I only socialise with other students from the University of Dublin, Trinity College.

60 tick was implemented into regular games months ago.

Listen buddy, whether or not you like the game isn't a factor in determining if said game has a competitive scene. Here are the facts.

It has regular official and unofficial tournaments.
PUGs and Scrims are a thing, you just can't join one whenever the fuck you feel like it.
Ladders don't have to be unofficial to be valid.

Goodnight. Feel free to keep arguing with the guy who's just as uneducated as you are. I'm sure you'll both learn a lot.

>60 tick was implemented into regular games months ago.

Cool, so now this "competitive game" has the same network settings as the casual servers of actual competitive games?

I remember way back 60 tick was just for gimmick duck around servers, now it's the standard for the overly elitist Overwatch crowd

youtube.com/watch?v=aVT-HKZn_uI

Looks like a feminist "awareness" ad for people who haven't had their "welcome to the internet!"indoctrination.

I still don't understand how most genjis have trouble with winston

I mean, if they get too close to you as Genji you can just dash the fuck out in one nano-second and toss shoryukens in monkey's general direction, by the time they can jump back at you again they're weakened enough for you to finish them off

Because it's a team based objective game and Harambe forcing weeb ninja to retreat to a safe distance is preventing him from doing anything meaningful and likely causing weeb ninjas team to lose because of the subsequent 5v6.