Apologize

You have to admit the vastly different array of weapons from primitive to modern, as well as different types of objectives, open world, and the use of map really looks cohesive. Definitely worth the $30

I fucking hate this "apologize xDD" meme

I don't like how this game looks like a mod more than a standalone game or a DLC
Every asset is reused along with sounds and animations
Weapons that spawn items and so on are recycled from MGSV and the only original thing so far was the bow

Shill. Konami shill

>not liking the best new meme

I dunno man. Those animations for the melee weapons look like they'll get stale REAL fast. Would YOU want to be the guy just babysitting the antennae with a machete using the same three stroke animation, over and over again?
They hardly got creative with the melee system either. I was expecting some fun shit with the spear:
>throw it (if you're a nigger)
>sweep enemies off their feet with it
>light the tip on fire, attach an explosive to its tip like fucking Predator

I dunno, something other than the single thrusting animation...

...

I don't remember Moe that much of a loser in the good Simpsons episodes. He was actually kind of a badass.

•rushed development
•made by the same company whose rights to his own creation was stolen by them
•shitty cinematography on trailer

I was legitimately impressed by the way the fence worked

That being said, I'm the kind of person who didn't think Left4Dead was worth playing if my friends weren't online.

Another shill.
Not even a new poster, it's a samefag

I can't wait to buy, play and enjoy it just to spite salty Kojimafags.

t. Moe

Hello paid shill. Back to reeeeeeeeeeddit

Are there more pathetic people than kojima drones?

Make me, fag.

Yes, konami paid shills like you

Konamidrones.

I know myself too well, and I know that this will probably get boring fast. But it also feels like DLC. I cant see myself paying more that 15 bucks for what is essentially Afghanistan with zombie. I already wasted more than enough time there once.

Barricade durability seemed cool though.

I just wish some rouge konami code slave would leak the fox engine already

Oh no. It's your job after all.

Looked pretty fun desu. Looking forward for new Forsell tracks. Kinda like how the game is a metaphor of its developers being left behind and have to survive. It's a quick rehash, yes, but it's co-op so replayability is high and it even adds a survival system ala MGS3 greatly improving the gameplay. It looks fucking great.

Of course it looks decent, it's 95% reused assets from a previous game. I guess DayZ babies are easily impressed by even a little glimpse of quality.

>rights to his own creation was stolen
I don't think you've ever been employed, son.

If you bought Substance and Subsistence in addition to the vanilla versions of MGS2 and 3 back in the day, you have no right to complain about Survive, since it's pretty much the same shit as the extra content in those games.

This. Fox Engine is GOAT. Looks and runs fantastic even on shit hardware.

>Konami proves they're actually better at making games without kojima

>Cred Forums in denial

It shows, it shows

I just wish I could hear Cam Clarke's beautiful voice again

Apologize for what? They're still re-using all assets from MGSV, even the map and the buildings, even the Motherbase, that was supposed to be from Peace Walker, people are still wearing Diamond Dogs gear.

The gameplay looks fun though, I liked the quantity of enemies we'll be fighting, and what seemed to be the objective, but I'm certainly not buying it at launch.

I just take that as fanservice for the people who played TPP. Afghanistan was the metter map of the two, and the new aesthetic makes it look like a dreamy, somewhat nightmareish version of it.

Like a shill like you?

>mfw I dont even like metal gear or konamis others shit games
>just come here to make kojima drones mad

Just give it up kiddo. You're embarrasing yourself.

>as well as different types of objectives

???

Hello konami shill

>be transported to NOT AFGHANISTAN via wormhole in 1975.
>Diamond Dogs sends support via cardboard box

It's like they want it to be obvious that they're not trying.

Someone post sorry so we can start the "gay porn bad acting" memes and derail it with Billy and what not.

This is literally the only MGS game I have even a sliver of interest in. Can't stand the old games. Even so, I won't play it due to the MGS tag.

That was the impression I got too.

Moe isn't someone to be fucked with, and now he's a semi-badass with suicidal tendencies.

Honestly though when was the last episode he brought his shotgun?

Smaefag shill

Hello parrot, want a cracker?

*gives cracker*

good parrot, *pat* *pat*

Except it's not Kojima? Look man....
Just because it has it's name does not mean it's the same.

>nooooo you're just shilling!

Do you enjoy making an idiot of yourself, retard?

If Moe is such a badass why isn't he in Battleborn?

>people are still wearing Diamond Dogs gear
I didn't even think about that
Maybe tears can open up from 1984 when Venom uses Wormhole and some stuff ends up back in time in the Survive dimension
I can't believe they didn't think about including MSF stuff or sneaking suits and instead went on and recycled MGO and TPP stuff

Someone didn't play FOBs enough to have guards spawn behind his ass.

Hope konami pays well

Yeah, that's pretty much the only issue I have with it so far.

It's probably also going to have micro transactions up the wazoo.

I bet you're one of the fags who said they'd kill themselves after playing MGS5.

That's just shit programming. What does that have to do with anything? My post was about performance.

Easier to charge you 40 FunBux for as little work as they possibly can do.

What world do you live in? Of course they didn't think about spending money on making gear that resembles the MSF stuff. It's obvious that the game is a spinoff and non-canon, and they only picked the "wormhole opens up and sucks surviving MSF soldiers in 1975" story just so they could stick Metal Gear in the name of the game.

For what? It looks like a shit cash in compared to other Metal Gear games.

Will it be fun? Maybe

Will it be a gameplay revolutionary masterpiece? Nah.

That's just a poor engine being shit at object limits. It ought to stick with hallway simulators
I'll give it credit for photorealism

Wow. Kojimafags are so triggered by this shit.

These threads are gonna be fun.

The lack of self-awareness is unreal. It's like they don't know we can all see how butthurt and triggered they are.

Fucking spergelords, lol.

The gameplay looks kinda fun, but I mean, what's so special about this game? There's literally nothing standing out from the crowd of tired zombie games. Did we really need another?

They could at least have some decency and not put Metal Gear on the title.

inb4 someone calls you a shill

You are an idiot and you don't know what a video game engine is about if you think it has to do with anything how enemies spawn.

They dropped soild.

And it's not like Kojima actually directed the extra content in those expansions either.

It might revolutionize the way they do zombie-survival-open-world games.

OP here. Nothings special about it, but there's nothing awful about it either, and certainly doesn't deserve the dislikes it got in the video. It looks like a lot of fun with a group of friends, moreso than those survival/building early access games, but with the tried and true fun of zombie fighting

Can't wait for it to backfire when the game actually ends up receiving fairly well. Loving every laugh.

I think the game you're actually thinking of is Rust or ARK.

The guards spawn right as you enter the map. Do I really have to explain how invading an FOB works?
Nothing should spawn right behind you as you sneak through struts. Ever.

Dimensional zombies can.

youtube.com/watch?v=oUIvC0FlUnA

As I stated earlier in the thread, that's shit programming at its finest, which has jack shit to do with the point I was making.

We get it, you just hate to admit that a company you dislike actually managed to build a solid engine that manages to looks great at little cost of performance.

whoa.... so this..... is the power of FOX.......

Once again, idiots, the engine has nothing to do with how enemies spawn, just how dense are you people?

Hah, yeah. That'd be great.

Game journalists are literally in love with Kojima's stinky farts, though, so we'll probably see the game get underrated as fuck.

>b-but it's fun with friends!
You don't need videogames to have fun with friends.

I'm not blaming Konami for my busted ghost FOB runs.
I'm blaming Kojima, his developer team, and their utter incapability to make an engine that doesn't shit itself and a decent open world in 5 years of development.

DELET

I do

looks like a decent coop extension of tpp

So why do we hate this again? Looks good.

If the enemies simply "disappear", it's a duct tape fix for a ship that's ready to flood anytime.

That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works, you god damn idiot.

they brought back injuries from mgs3 :)

Just how stupid are you? I really don't think I can explain any clearer that the game engine has nothing to do with the way that enemies spawn, that's handled by the programing part of the game.

Am I the only one who thinks the game looks kind of.. Bland? I mean, the enemies look boring as hell. They're faux zombies. They're rock lobsters. Not only that, the melee combat looks incredibly underwhelming (woot slash left and right or poke 'em with a stick!) and unless they add a fuckton of craftable items I can see things like barricades and the like getting old fast.

Can I be a cute girl or are all the characters premade?

We don't hate MGSV part of Survive, we hate Survive part of Survive.

BRAVO KONAMI

agreed - not sure where the hate comes from other than the assblasted kojima drones. no fun allowed on Cred Forums and muh metal gear and all that.

>empty fucking desert
Vs
>nice jungle with airports and shit

Why are there MG Survive threads coming one after another?
Are you shills?

lmao
you didn't even explain anything
don't be so triggered by a shit engine

Finally a game that can fill the void DayZ Alpha left in my heart.

Because it only looks good according to virgin Konami shills.

>Nice jungle
>Not ugly grass filled with nothing

At least deserts look kinda cool in a military setting.

Not muh Kojima. Even if he never left, he would had retired and someone else would take over it.

It's not even the Soild series and fans crying about a side series being different from the norm.

Might get that Zombie fan base Capcom moved away from or survial tatics.

People whine so much these days, I think they're projecting their terrible moods on current happenings.

>gameplay video just released
>Huh? Why you make thread? shill!

Yes, people are literally this retarded

literally far cry primal.

Recycled engine.
exact same gameplay.
Slight modification to sprites.
Clearly was originally a DLC.

There is no way this game should be full price.

Fun fact: the only ones mentioning Kojima are people who claim everyone who hates this game is a Kojimadrone, ignoring of course, the fact that Cred Forums has spent more than a year shitting on Kojima and MGSV.

But these threads are nothing but people accusing everyone of being a shill.

>Afghanistan was the metter map of the two
Stopped reading right there.

V shits on anything. What's your point? Why not quit playing and start telling kids to get off muh lawns.

>There is no way this game should be full price.
It's not, retard.

It looks like it'd be a kinda neat co-op game for a little bit, but yeah, bland is the word.

Unless they add some enemy variety or really work on the melee system as to not just be an extremely clunky retooling of the Punch-type bionic arms, I don't see this being very worthwhile.

Maybe at a crazy low price point it might get some points for knowing it's as small as it ism but I don't see that happening.

how much is it?

>Y-YOU ARE ALL KOJIMDARONES
>people shat on MGSV
>Y-YOU JUST HATE ALL VIDEOGAMES

My poor Konami shill can't possibly be this desperate for arguments.

how to spot a kojima skill
>guys it doesnt look too bad like honestly I mean come on

It was.

Fun fact, the zombies represent muslims mindless faith to islam with blind eyes.

Either $40 or $30.

It's either you hate the game because Kojima is not on-board (Kojimadrone).

Or you're excited for the game because you're eat anything off Konami's buttcrack because it has the MGS label slapped on it.

Who's the bigger drone?

Lower price, like Ground Zeroes, so maybe $40.
Then again, this ''game'' is worth $5 at most.

Or maybe we like the franchise not just the creator?

Wow, third person Far Cry Primal with zombies.
Yeah, so excited.

So, you are going to eat up anything that has the MGS name on it?
Including a poorly made zombie game that stands out in absolutely nothing?

And you are basically admitting that you have no difference between the Kojimadrone boogeyman?

Battleborn hasn't shown any cool bars to drink at.

>this ''game'' is worth $5 at most.
nah. This is literally exactly the same shit that went down with expansion packs back in the day holy fuck where were you when Konami actually SAVED gaming?

>Including a poorly made zombie game that stands out in absolutely nothing?
It has MGSV's gameplay with a few additions and in a co-op context, what else do you want?

>It has MGSV's gameplay with a few additions and in a co-op context, what else do you want?
How about a good game instead?
MGSV was the biggest dissapointment since Mass Effect 3, with a retarded story and a yawn-inducing gameplay.

You're proving my point. You just like it because it's Metal Gear. You're a bigger drone.

Kojima actually co-written the majority of the MGS games. He actually explored themes of nuclear deterrence, genes and the passing of information.

We get it, he has a team and without them MGS wouldn't exist but his ideas and the stories he wrote for MGS is what made the franchise ultimately popular in the 90's.

You retards seem to not realize why we like the creator. He did wonders with all the themes he implemented. If someone creates an artistic piece we're going to be fans of the creator. That's a natural act by fans.

Liking a franchise without appreciating the creators is the most shallowest thing ever. It didn't come out of thin fucking air.

>and a yawn-inducing gameplay
Oh, look. It's a retard.

The thing that pisses me off the most is that it's the same map i've already spent more than a month in.

It's still the same outposts from Afghanistan except with some metal structure in it.

I don't think konami will come here to apologize user.

...

ITT: People don't realize this is Konami gauging interest for Metal Gear after Kojima left and the last chance for the dev team to make something impressive, since they'll get fired if it doesn't happen.

If this game were announced while Kojima was still employed by Konami, Kojimadrones would literally be eating it out of his gook ass. If MGR was announced today, Kojimadrones would immediately pan it. This is how fucking brainwashed these people are.

>It has MGSV's gameplay
that's probably the worst part about it, MGSV's gameplay was for the most part balanced around enemies using long range weapons who can see more than 5 feet in front of them
they just took that then slapped in a bunch of blind zombies who can't even seem to touch you unless you walk into a landmine version

Oh yeah, we can't forget about these 50 missions about fultoning different kinds of objects, about running around in a completely empty open world, about no challenge whatsoever, about not even convoys running around the open world, about all those repetitive missions, about having pretty much infinite ammo. about all the OP elements that make you borderline invincible, about the grinding, the facebook minigame, that deserted Motherbase...
Man, that was so fun.

that's because if Kojima was making it the game would actually be good

>If this game were announced while Kojima was still employed by Konami, Kojimadrones would literally be eating it out of his gook ass.

And this is all the argument there is in favor of MG Survive.
You have nothing else to say in favor of this game.
The only thing you can do is call everyone a Kojimadrone like a scratched disc.

Now you're just proving my point. Kojimafags are truly beyond saving.

If Kojima was making this, this game would be a joke title before revealing the actual game.
Not Konami though, Konami is the kind of company that would have made a game about Snake Eraser, and now i'm going to get a wave of MG Survive shills saying that a Snake Eraser game wouldn't be absolutely fucking retarded.

You have fewer ammo and weaker weapons in this game, that's why if you go melee you don't get extra guns to bring along.

The game is balanced outright knowing this. The backstab move is going to be essential to get through the harder missions in the game, at least through the infiltration phase. And these aren't the only zombies we're seeing, it's very possible other enemies appear, including human ones as well.

>Kojimafags are truly beyond saving.
Now Kojimafags have something in common with MG Survive.

That gif should have the back flip and the shotgun firing.

>And this is all the argument there is in favor of MG Survive.
>You have nothing else to say in favor of this game.

>Co-op gameplay in FOX Engine
>Zombie horde survival in MGS inspired (alternate) universe

I don't know man, seemed alright to me. $30 is still a stretch though

not enough to be called an "expansion"
it's just a dlc mode, shouldn't be more than $15

>Co-op gameplay in FOX Engine
>Zombie horde survival in MGS inspired (alternate) universe

Sounds pretty fucking horrible, and that 15 minute video confirms it.

And yes, $30 is a stretch, this should be free considering a lot of games like Call of Duty and Gears of War don't charge you extra money for their co-op horde modes.

In fact, they seem to have more work put into them, considering MG Survive is 100% reused assets, and the few ones that aren't reused look simply terrible, like those machete and bow and spear animations.

>Co-op gameplay in FOX Engine
>in FOX Engine
Why the remark in the engine?
It's just an optimized engine, that's all.

>Zombie horde survival in MGS inspired (alternate) universe
This is a horrible idea and I have no idea how anyone at Konami thought this up.

>MGSV with NEXTGEN FOX Engine
>Place enemy next to wall
>Their legs clip into the wall or they push out.

>Peace Walker, a fucking PSP game
>Place enemy next to wall
>Their legs curl towards their torso and rest against the wall

We only saw one gameplay footage. For all we know, there's new content that hasn't been shown yet/

I'm sorry that you can't see creative genius when it's right in front of your face, user

Actually, I'm just a slut for Fox Engine.

Its fucking witchcraft

Why is flow so adorable?

This. Why is Fox Engine so good, Cred Forums?

>pretty fucking great game engine
>reuse assets from a pretty solid build
>survival crafting and zombies

You can actually see where they fucked up.

>If this game were announced while Kojima was still employed by Konami, Kojimadrones would literally be eating it out of his gook ass.

Oh, right. Like how we went goo-goo ga-ga over the spin-off games? The only games we got excited for were always the main entry of the series. Regardless if Kojima worked on it or not we would be happy to see it but we wouldn't go crazy over it like MGSV.

I still feel like the original teaser teased some kind of kaiju monster.

Something that would warrant piloting a Metal Gear to fight. And ZEKE was never recovered from MSF Motherbase/ocean.

If they lead with this I'd be more excited than I am seeing a trailer for The Walking Dead Season 3.

then you should be as mad as I am that they're wasting it on shit like this and pachinko

>i'm playing a game because the engine is optimized

Konami shills reaching a new low.

Nigga this is just them going full Majora's Mask, can't wait to see what dumb shit they come up with for the story.

>back when howtoplayscout.gif was in every filename thread ever

>Herp derp I love Nintendo games!
>Nintendrone!

>I love WoW and Overwatch!
>Blizzardrone!

It will be zombie Salanthropus with slightly different textures and a few crystals.

Well I hope they use fox engine for something good.

>I guess DayZ babies are easily impressed by even a little glimpse of quality.
DayZ babby here

They dont look like similar games at all desu

I assume you're asking for Konami to apologize for saying they'll win back our trust and then pulling shit like this. But you'll never get an apology from them because they are a Japanese video game company and they have no idea what the hell they are doing, just like every other Japanese video game company.

>Fox engine + zombies

Literally giving it a chance based on this alone.

Liking a company owned franchise when said creator has been divisive to fans is normal.

George Lucas really ruined Star Wars with his ideas.

Sometimes creations need new leaders. Beside this isnt the Soild series. Seems weird this is the only fan base that whines when a creator leaves for video games.

>haha, i'm a slut for the FOX Engine™
>goddamn it why is the engine so good? Can't wait for more FOX Engine™ gameplay!

A new low.

>left for dead with crafting

wont be tedious at all....

>microtransactions

my fucking sides

>George Lucas really ruined Star Wars with his ideas.

Nope. Everyone bashed on the prequels because it wasn't like their original trilogy. Nostalgia faggots crying like little bitches. Sorry, fuck off.

>Seems weird this is the only fan base that whines when a creator leaves for video games.

What it seems weird is that you angry Konami shills are so desperate to push the narrative that this is all because Kojima left when you are the only ones mentioning Kojima.

Not to mention that what's happening here is that now Metal Gear is a zombie survival crafting early access game, the embodiment of cancer, maybe the worst fad genre to spawn in years.

Lol. Get over it, those movies sucked. And lucas is a hack who can't even create nothing new that's successful with a new brand either.

Fucking pleb.

Really excited to see this bomb, i've been wanting to see Konami fuck off from videogames ever since they killed Team Silent.

But the fox engine is actually pretty good.

Hating on the prequels is such a cliche now I hear the same complaints about the prequels over and over againw without any thought or merit. It's just a trendy thing to do.

What do the Japanese think about this, and I don't mean the Pachinko addicts.

I mean we're quite the frothing lot here in North America for Metal Gear, but what is the reception in Japan. Did people just fucking lose it too? Are they just completely fucking pissed at Koijima or Konami?

This game is gonna be so fucking horrible.

I really hope that this will be Umbrella Corps 2.0

An engine being good has nothing to do with the quality of the game.

Are you that excited for the Fox Engine?
Go buy PES 2017 then.

Awww, the big baby mad that zombies are popular so he goes on the net to throw a temper tantrum over a side series that's not even in canon.

Complete indiference.
It's really impressive, they outright don't give a fuck about this game, it's as if it doesn't exist for them.

Bad acting, terrible cgi, shitty race car movie, jarr jar brinks.

Shit taste.

Not bothered by it like western weebs.

>Sounds pretty fucking horrible, and that 15 minute video confirms it.

Alright, but HOW is it terrible? If CoD Zombies, L4D, and Gears of War proved anything; It's that people love zombie hordes with other people.

>Why the remark in the engine?

I still believe that Fox engine hasn't been used to it's full potential, but I don't have any facts or shit to support that.

>Why is flow so adorable?

Don't question it, just go with the floe

>Alright, but HOW is it terrible? If CoD Zombies, L4D, and Gears of War proved anything; It's that people love zombie hordes with other people.
You know what the COD and GoW horde modes have?

They are just a small part of the full game.
Also, Left 4 Dead 2 was repetitive as fuck.

But the point is that a good engine used properly can make a good game. Not saying survive will be good.

>I still believe that Fox engine hasn't been used to it's full potential, but I don't have any facts or shit to support that.
It has, those Pachinko MGS3 cutscenes were made with the Fox Engine at it's best.

Floe is a cute. CUTE!

You're right, I don't know what the quality of the game will be like, but I do know MGSV's gameplay was GOAT, so I don't see why this would be any different. Yeah, I'm still probably gonna buy it. Deal with it, fag.

>that fence bending and breaking
Im hyped for fences

>Everyone bashed on the prequels because nobody wanted to see Darth Vader as a whiny baby.
FTFY.

>They are just a small part of the full game.
And this isn't, nor is horde the only kind of mission you'll tackle. The narrator states this.

It also improves on MGSV's gameplay by adding well-liked mechanics from 3.

There are people here who enjoy the shitty convoluted writing of Hideo Kojima and don't want literally anyone else to try something interesting with the metal gear franchise.

>It has, those Pachinko MGS3 cutscenes were made with the Fox Engine at it's best.
No they weren't. And it's a slot machine, not pachinko.

So original. Like you thought this up yourself.

>It also improves on MGSV's gameplay by adding well-liked mechanics from 3.
Thing is, those mechanics are meant for you to grind harder, and to pay for microtransactions.

Not to mention that the context is still a zombie survival game.

Am I missing something?
It looks like a generic zombie game with the metal gear name slapped on it

MGSV's control scheme was pretty casual compared to the other games, and this seems like they're taking the control scheme and using it in a functional way.
If you don't think about it in an MGS mindset, but a different game with the same controls, it looks pretty decent.

But yeah, the whole Metal Gear logo and reused assets still pisses me off.

>and don't want literally anyone else to try something interesting with the metal gear franchise.
We do.
Problem is, we got a zombie survival game instead.

Then again, all you Konami shills can do is just call everyone a Kojimadrone.

>Honestly, it LOOKS like MGSV TPP
ftfy

youtube.com/watch?v=R227bZSP5bI

no, because Cred Forums sucks cock.

>MGSV's control scheme was pretty casual compared to the other games
>pretty casual
>control scheme

what do you even mean

I dont get why people are against franchising games. The moment they see a single reused asset its nothing but doom and gloom

I mean zombies was probably a bad call. But I see no issue with reusing assets and gameplay for slightly different cheaper experiences. Maybe they could have done coop operations instead.

>but I do know MGSV's gameplay was GOAT
You mean the sandbox with the deadest and emptiest open world ever made?
The one that was completely piss easy?
The one about grinding?
The one with hundreds of repetitive side ops about fultoning things?
The one about dozens of missions about fultoning people and containers?

The Japanese don't particularly care about things like people getting fired and shit like that. That shit is prevalent in Japanese culture;
If a company doesn't like you and want you to quit so they don't have to pay you unemployment, they'll demote you for no fucks given.

In any case, to them, this is just another game that has zombies with Metal Gear in the title.

Maybe bonus points since Konami is probably the biggest gambling company over there

Yes, that's the one. Problem?

youtube.com/watch?v=BUVkXU6Ycu8

First part looks boring, the defence bit later looks kinda fun. Wish they had just used the zombie models from 5 instead though.

People are angry because the money wasted on this trash could have been used on finishing MGSV.
Instead we got a zombie game that no one asked for since it's the current fad, or well, yesterday's fad.

They could literally not give less of a shit

Japan doesnt have the same mindless fanboism for Kojima the west does.

no

>calling people shills

How long until you kids start forcing Survivetanic or whatever

Yeah, it's absolutely terrible and killed the game for me.
Along with the garbage story of course, but fortunately, MG Survive completely skips the story part.

whoops wrong link

youtube.com/watch?v=rMJifdX-jas

Pretty much. All he did was cried about how he kills people in Episode II and III. At least him acting like a baby made sense in Episode I.

Is it just zombies or are we figthing other shit like Metal Gears and whatnot.

No need to, this is 2017's Battleborn, and everyone knows it.
It won't be exciting because everyone can see that it's going to bomb hard.

>finishing mgsv

There is nothing left. Kojima abandoned the fucking game and shipped it.

i didn't hear anyone complaining about updates to the shitty and abandoned multiplayer mode that is still broken today

>People are angry because the money wasted on this trash could have been used on finishing MGSV.
Thats not how game design works at all. You cant just throw money at something and it works.

Kojima is a hack and Kojima was right to get rid of him. They just shouldnt have done zombies.

I take up this mentality so often and I swear I need to get rid of it
>a game is coming out
>bombard it calling it the next tortanic
>If I'm right we get another terrible game on the market
>If I'm wrong then I won't play it because of my principles
Saying this, I am not gonna take any stance on survive. MGS V had a solid foundation for gameplay, but it was not implemented well into many missions.

>Kojima abandoned the fucking game and shipped it.
Then take it and finish it on your own.

I liked it. What are you gonna do about it?

>finish MGSV without Kojima
You would be bitching the whole time and say its nothing like MGS if they did

Face it. You hate Konami because Cred Forums tells you to and nothing they ever do will change that.

I will always say that MGSV is the blueprint to make maybe one of the greatest videogames in history, a true modern classic.
So the fact that they are taking this to make a zombie game is just painful.

>You know what the COD and GoW horde modes have?

CoD zombies has the most minimal base building/defensive shit ever (i.e. purchase this turret for a round)
We saw this in the MGSurvive gameplay.

>They are just a small part of the full game.

And this isn't? Let's be real: This is a spin-off title not unlike Metal Gear Acid. Konami said that this will be it's own game so consumers will probably be able to purchase it separately like MGO2

>Thing is, those mechanics are meant for you to grind harder, and to pay for microtransactions.

>grind harder

Have you ever played a horde-survival game? of course you're gonna have to collect materials

>pay for microtransactions

To this day I have never payed for any MB coins or any of that shit and still have ALOt of the shit for FOB's and Metal Gear Online

Never.

>Konami finish MGSV without Kojima
>WAH ITS NOT THE SAME WITHOUT KOJIMA FUCKING KONAMI
>Konami doesnt finish it
>WAH THEY DIDNT FINISH IT FUCKING KONAMI

This is why Konami made a zombie game
1. Kojima fanboys are not going to buy any more MGS game from Konami anyway
2. Zombie games always sell
3. Coop always sells

You LITERALLY brought this on yourself.

There would be bitching, no doubt about that, but at least it would show they have what it takes to take this franchise at least where people want.
The story would have been garbage?
Who cares, MGSV was garbage as is, you couldn't fuck this up.

And yet they did.

They dropped all that to make a fucking zombie game.

>You hate Konami because Cred Forums tells you to
No, I hate Konami because they have done nothing but killing franchises I liked like Contra, Silent Hill, Castlevania and now MGS, with stupid, retarded choices like the existence of the Lords of Shadow subfranchise, or MG Survive.

Konami is seriously one of the dumbest companies there is in this industry and I have absolutely no idea of how they kept themselves alive up until now.

If MGSV, that shoud have been the fucking great game of all time and had all the support, failed, imagine Survive.

And Konami deserves to fail. The fucked with MGS, Castlevania, SH, and certainly more games that I dont remember now, and they continue to fuck with the franchises.

>Floe is a cute. CUTE!

Mah fligga

Gonna be funny see what Konami will do when MG Survive bombs.

The trailer had something big and screeching. Probably Metal Gear.

>take this franchise at least where people want.
>Who cares, MGSV was garbage as is
And this is exactly why Konami abandoned you and made Survive.

Out of all the possible things they could have done post Kojima this was literally the smartest move they could pull. Reuse MGSV with cash magnet zombies.

You need to just forget and leave MGS behind. Its dead, its over, stop beating a dead horse.

>noone got the reference
k

konami isn't going to lose any money from this because it looks to be 95% reused assets, down to the map

the zombies were probably cut content from MGSV too, and they needed a way to use them without them going to waste so they shit this out in 2 months

Melee looks shit except the spear (getting deep down vibes from it)
Barricading looks like it will be prefixed (you can only place this barricade here)
Weapons seem inbalanced. Why would I take a bow over a fucking pump gun with around 8 shot that instashots your mom and you are basicly an idiot if skrt.
Why cant they design chars for shit? like that dude with medium armor but his arms showing skin, why?
Shit looks wonky as fuck cod with the open world meme. i dont even see any reason to stealth, since when starting to protect the base everyone and your mother know whats up, why not just running guns blazing inside the capture point in the first place without some retard tackled on penalty.
This game takes nice movement and interactivity and shits all over it with retarded gameplay muh dayz/cod nazi zombies gameplay fuck off KOOOONAAAAMIIIII

I can't wait for this to sell more copies than MGSV.

Kojimafags suiciding everywhere

>CoD zombies has the most minimal base building/defensive shit ever (i.e. purchase this turret for a round)
As opposed to what, spawning barriers with materials you find around the map?

>And this isn't? Let's be real: This is a spin-off title not unlike Metal Gear Acid. Konami said that this will be it's own game so consumers will probably be able to purchase it separately like MGO2
What does that have to do with my post?

>Have you ever played a horde-survival game? of course you're gonna have to collect materials
And that's why I simply don't like horde modes, and why games based around them are always terrible ideas.

>To this day I have never payed for any MB coins or any of that shit and still have ALOt of the shit for FOB's and Metal Gear Online
Don't worry, in MG Survive, you will.

Continue to make huge profits and not give a fuck.

So, Konami abandoned the MGS fanbase to make a game that's a guaranteed flop?

Americans worship people like idols. So disgusting and emotional?.

>Barricading looks like it will be prefixed
You should really watch the gameplay before you shitpost kid. You failed to fit in.

>You mean the sandbox with the deadest and emptiest open world ever made?

You mean the game with the best controls in the series?
You mean the game with the best and most stealth movement and actions?
You mean the game with the most gadgets and weapons?

Ye

It was like every other third person shooter's control setup
>L2 to aim
>R2 to fire
>L3 to sprint
Shit like that. It made it way too easy to kill, more of an action game's controls than stealth. They also had a ton of guns and ammo to call in at any moment to make killing super easy and stealth wasn't even necessary. In the older games, first person aim made it more of a tactical descision to kill rather than an instinctual one.
But in this, they utilize the action aspect of it. I feel like Kojima tried to make MGSV appeal to a wider audience, but Konami took his work (MGSV, not the franchise) and expanded on it. MGSV wasn't great to start out with, but Konami may have actually made it better.

>Zombie Coop Survival game based off a game that was widely enjoyed for its gameplay
>thinking this reddit tier TOR shitposting is doing anything
>flopping
Its going to be a huge success and you're just shitposting if you claim otherwise.

>You mean the game with the most gadgets and weapons?
No, actually Peace Walker has more gadgets and weapons.
Not to mention that most weapons in MGSV are just variants of the same one with a shorter barrel.

>a game that isn't a complete bitch to play due to clunky controls is a casual game

God damn, I swear, further we go into this year, the more dumb people we see.

>Coop zombie game
>MGSV engine
>flop
Pfhthahahahahhahha. It could be the worse game of all time and it will still sell like mad.

>thinking this reddit tier TOR shitposting is doing anything
No, MG Survive itself is doing everything.

>Zombie Coop Survival game based off a game that was widely enjoyed for its gameplay
No, actually pretty much everyone agrees that MGSV is a snoozefest.

Konami has lost the MGS fanbase, they are in the limbo, they don't know which audience to appeal to, and they have no idea of marketing.

It's a guaranteed flop.

Name alone equals sales.

Japan will probably accept it, salty no muh kojima fans won't at all.

>press buttons
>things happen

wooow, so casual.

>the money wasted on this trash could have been used on finishing MGSV.

What exactly is there to finish in MGSV?

Ah yes, we can hear all the Cowadooty kids saying
>WOW MAN YOU HEARD ABOUT THIS GAME USING THE Fox Engine™? IT'S SO FUCKING COOL PLAYING MORE Fox Engine™ GAMES

Your desperation is so delicious.
Bomb bomb bomb.

>actually pretty much everyone agrees that MGSV is a snoozefest.
>one of the highest acclaimed games of its year that sold like mad
You're a moron, we're done here.

>Japan will probably accept it
Japan doesn't care about this game.
Go to 2chan, they simply don't care about this game's existance.

Flop, and one of the hard ones.

who gives a shit about zombie games anymore
it isn't 2010 anymore

Nice projecting m8, I bet you have an oedipus complex and are still stuck in your oral phase aswell, fag.

antikojimafags are insufferable. if you hate him so fucking much, why do you always post on metal gear threads? like it or not, he's the one responsible for such great series, among the top quality games of their respective generations.

>Is it just zombies or are we figthing other shit like Metal Gears and whatnot.

Apparently ZEKE got sucked up through the wormhole since it was at the bottom of the ocean

I'm saying that the older games made you think and prepare a little more, not spray and kill everything easily.

>actually pretty much everyone agrees that MGSV is a snoozefest.
The vast majority of people disagree with you. Fuck off shitposter

>FUCK MGS, FUCK MGSV, FUCK KOJIM- I MEAN KONAMI DO I FIT IN YET

One which was hyped to death, had a great marketing campaign and maybe the best trailers made for a game ever.

MG Survive has cringeworthy trailers that nobody liked, negative word of mouth everywhere, and a terrible, terrible 15 minute demo.

...

At least the permavirgin Konami shills moved on from calling everyone a Kojimadrone.
This is an incoming bomb, the Umbrella Corps of MGS.
Bomb.

2chan isnt the whole gaming community.

Have you seen the top games currently being played on STEAM?

>G-GUYS YOU YOU ARE JUST KOJIMADRONES
>THE GAME LOOKS FUN, S-STOP
>I-IT'S NOT GOIGN TO BOMB
>F-FUCK YOU DON'T LIKE VIDEOGAMES

it looks like it'll get boring quick

DOTA 2, CS:GO and Skyrim?

Hell, even DayZ only gets 7000 daily players and is on it's way to dying.

the only zombie game in the top 10 is rust, and it isn't coop, it's a dayZ clone

>mooooom, Im getting fucked in the ass on the internet AGAIN, jeeez Ill better move the goalpost thatll show them!
off yourself into another plain of existence where you can be a faggot on your own, fuccboi

Even more people love multiplayer military shooters, yet MGO3 is fucking dead.

actually Cred Forums fell for the marketing ploy that kojima is evil and konami is a hero, ignoring everything that happened to every single one of their other franchises that did not involve kojima

They should have just made a fucking remake of Peace Walker in Fox engine, this shit just looks lazy as fuck

Jesus Christ, the Kult of Kojima is real.

>Konami will die in your lifetime

>This could have been a bro op military porn game
>play as msf/diamond dogs on their missions

this is only made because they have a bunch of leftover assets to use, konami wants to wring a little bit more out of the MGS series before they can totally kill it off

>B-B-BUT MUH KOJIMADRONES
Bahahahah, absolutely flop.

>0.25$ has been added to your account

>What does that have to do with my post?

You said that those modes were small parts of the full game. This has nothing to do with MGSV except lore (and that's a stretch) and gameplay mechanics.

>As opposed to what, spawning barriers with materials you find around the map?

Yeah, it's the same shit and the way they use wormhole shit to spawn everything is smart.
Lazy, but smart.

>And that's why I simply don't like horde modes, and why games based around them are always terrible ideas.
>I simply don't like horde modes

Aaaaand there it is.
Horde mode games with friends in my experience are always fun, especially playing with random people and carrying new players.

>Don't worry, in MG Survive, you will.

M'kay.

>This has nothing to do with MGSV except lore (and that's a stretch) and gameplay mechanics.
Basically, a co-op for MGSV.

>series heavy on anti-violence themes gets turned into a cashgrab about shootan dem zombays
nah

>No, actually Peace Walker has more gadgets and weapons.
>Not to mention that most weapons in MGSV are just variants of the same one with a shorter barrel.

The customization pretty much gets rid of the need to have so many weapons by just making what you like

>customization pretty much gets rid of the need to have so many weapons by just making what you like

Customization, outside of scopes and the silencer, is completely aesthetic.

Anti violence yet snakes kill everything.

They could have just made this $20 DLC and it would have been Undead Nightmare 2.0

Almost everyone would be okay with that.

This guy gets it.
Putting misplaced mechanics from an MGS game and making a decent remix out of them

Death Stranding shills everywhere

>I'm saying that the older games made you think and prepare a little more, not spray and kill everything easily.

>Run through MGS1 killing everyone with SOCOM or FAMAS and rations
>Run through MGS2 killing everyone with M4 or headshot everyone with USP
>Run through MGS3 killing everyone and reload by picking up and dropping bodies
>Run through MGS4 headshotting everyone
>Run through Peace Walker headshotting everyone and boss battles were shootouts or fulton assignments
>Run through Ground Zeroes headshotting everyone just to lose the alert signal for 2 min to complete objectives

Ye

big boss, the greatest soldier of the 20th century, a warmonger that craves for eternal war gets his shit kicked in by solid snake, who believes that you can never justify violence, but only fights because there's no one else who can do the job. this series is really just "war is very bad the video game"

>Yeah, it's the same shit and the way they use wormhole shit to spawn everything is smart.
No, just lazy and a ''HEY, REFERENCE TO OLDER GAMES AHAHA''

You know what I would be okay with?
Episode 51, and an extra chapter in a more urban setting for MGSV.

Apologies, I meant to include the top survival games in STEAM

>the only zombie game in the top 10 is rust, and it isn't coop, it's a dayZ clone

So you can't co-op play with other people in RUST, is what you're saying?

MGO3 died because it was a piece of shit and no one was spreading the word about it.

Play the game today and it's a febreezed fart that still needs improvements and tons more content

What would they gain from limiting it to only MGSV owners?

MGS 5 owners are so starved for content it's not even funny.

>Basically, a co-op for MGSV.

Literally all that this is with no story and zombies added

Actually MG Survive made me appreciate MGSV more.

>Customization, outside of scopes and the silencer, is completely aesthetic.

the flashlights were used to blind enemies in cqc, you can do the same in Metal Gear Online at night.
You could add different mags, barrels and they all had affects for the weapons for how you wanted to play

what reference

Undead Nightmare was sold separately from the full game

Say what you will but this looks nowhere near as bad as people are trying to make it out to be. Could be some good fun.

It's based on MGSV, it's going to be nothing but trash.

Plus, they'll spit on the fanbase that gave them so much money.

>a more urban setting for MGSV.

What, like sky scrapers and shit? Or do you mean populated towns with bustling streets and pedestrians?

Cause I can't see how those would be fun in MGSV

>It's based on MGSV, it's going to be nothing but trash.
how so?

Yeah, because TPP didn't worm out its welcomed with copy and paste side-ops and hard mode filler missions.

Military zone in the Soviet Union, basically a big village that has been taken control of.
A perfect setting would be around the Yamantau Complex.
It's on the mountains, it has a big village nearby, and it's perfect for stealth since that Complex is the closest thing the USSR and Russia have to the Area 51.

Less wilderness, bit more of verticality, and more building infiltration to make a contrast with the wilderness of Africa and Afghanistan.

MGSV is one of the most repetitive games i've ever played.
Not to mention there's literally nothing to do in the open world.

Okay, looking at this from an no bias point of view.

I think it looks decent. Like, a very average 10-20 dollar game.

Nothing special, but maybe worth playing if you are the type to play with your friends.

>MGS 5 owners are so starved for content it's not even funny.

Is this not a step towards more MGSV content essentially?

Think of the possibilities with this wormhole/alternate reality pull.

>You guys wanna see Solid Snake? Fuck it wormhole him in there!
>You guys want more cqc animations? With MGSurvive out of the way we can add more shit!
>You guys remember Raiden from Ground Zeroes? Guess who's back! (With MB coins purchase)

They can literally do and add whatever they want Portable Ops style, just adding shit and excuse it with "WORMHOLES AND SCIENCE!"

>They can literally do and add whatever they want Portable Ops style, just adding shit and excuse it with "WORMHOLES AND SCIENCE!"
You know very well they won't do it because that would requiere bringing back all the VA's.

MGSV is stuffed with shit to do though, and is highly replayable

If you're not having fun with the side ops you probably just don't have any imagination

I googled it and it looks alot like what I saw in Peace Walker

>They can literally do and add whatever they want

Except make a good game.

>MGSV gameplay
Check.

>fun with friends
Check.

According to people in this thread it should've been a huge success.

I didn't even finish it, just watched the ending on youtube. The mission structure is boring as repetitive as fuck

>MGSV is one of the most repetitive games i've ever played.
the only instance repetition is forced upon you is right at the end of the game where you have to redo some missions in subsistence mode
all the other instances of repetition are purely your own choice to do

>Not to mention there's literally nothing to do in the open world.
I don't think they made it open world to make it "focused on open world"
it was clear from way back when they showed the gameplay presentations that open world was only a means to an end, which is more flexibility in infiltration and stealth and nothing more

sure, they could've put some stuff in between the bases
but you knew about it being "empty" from the start

personally, I wasn't bothered by it
there were more than enough options to fast travel and the game's focus was clearly on the flexible base infiltrations which open world made possible

That's exactly what it is, and that's what people are mad about.

MGS had a pretty strong identity of its own, and Konami are deciding to continue by making the single most run of the mill formula for a game you can go for these days: a co-op zombie survival game.

I personally think it looks kind of fun, but I'm mad as fuck over what it represents.

If I've done almost all of the content. And completed my FOB. Should I wipe my memory and start over. I really don't know what else to do. Is the multiplayer dead and abandoned yet as well?

>that would requiere bringing back all the VA's.

VA's for what? Have you seen the gameplay for Survive?

If they added bonus characters all they'd have to do is just add signature animations.
If they didn't want to add voices they really wouldn't nor would they need to

>a co-op zombie survival game.
I really don't see the comparison to your average zombie survival co-op games, despite them calling it so

it's so much closer to MGSV's genre than it is to that

no

Why does the Boss sneaking suit make everyone's ass so fat?

>According to people in this thread it should've been a huge success.

The month it needed to release after TPP came out killed anyone's knowing about it.
Not to mention that when it did release, the game was straight garbage.
Like I said, it's a completely new game from when it was first released.

MGO3 was handled poorly

post more lewd Millers. they're strangely hot

"mother of the special forces"

Incoming.

>The mission structure is boring as repetitive as fuck

It's the same as Peace Walker though and people loved that game.

Also you can't travel from mission to mission in Peace Walker and no one had any complaints

It's much closer to the average zombie survival than it is to MGSV.

I didn't like Peace Walker but at least it didn't fall for the empty open world meme

>It's much closer to the average zombie survival than it is to MGSV.
how so?
we don't even see any real "survival" in the gameplay video, for all we know it could just be some superficial "use item every 2 hours to not hunger"
or just straight up taken from MGS3 with the medical screen and hunger meter

everything we've seen so far is very MGSV, sneaking around in open world, open world base infiltration taking out "guards" and then also going in guns blazing when shit hits the fan

so for now I'm convinced this is MGSV with tacked on survival mechanics, not a survival game with tacked on MGSV mechanics

You're fat

>console

>b-b-but muh waifu

There's no such thing as a obesse, or even ''thicc'' soldier.
Tell her to get out of the battlefield before she eats that tank.

>Team Silent

You know that pretty much every Silent Hill game was made by different people?

It could be fun, but the way they presented the game was boring as fuck. If it's ~$20 I'll probably buy it, but anything above that is a waste. My only hope is that there are more enemies than just normal zombies.

>no thing as an obese soldier
lmao

user, are you troubled?

Thats anti war not violence.

Absolutely fat.

Prove me wrong, and no, Steven Seagal doesn't count.

Only usa has fat men in combat roles.

>If it's ~$20 I'll probably buy it
They said it's gonna be a 20-30$ game, so you're maybe in luck

b-b-but muh waifu voiced by Laura Bailey

I suppose if you press the sprint button nothing happens.

lmao
>Earlier this year, another report found that 40 per cent Germany's 3,600 soldiers in Afghanistan were overweight.

>telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/3546154/German-soldiers-too-fat-to-fight-the-Taliban.html

Who cares? Kojima gave up his franchise to become a FOX Series director of b-tier schlock. It's stupid clinging to "muh plot muh kojimbo" when even mgsv was entirely about gameplay over story.

>germany