Mount & Blade Warband

Hey Cred Forums just picked up the ps4 port of Warband and HOLY SHIT IS THIS GAME IRRITATING.

So can anyone give me some insight on how to not suck at this game because the guides aren't doing it for me. For the past hour I've been trying to level up recruited peasants but every time I try to go get more or travel a longish distance I get steamrolled by bandits or deserters with way better armore/weapons.

Then I'm alone and killed, then taken prisoner behind enemy lines and rinse and repeat. I trying to rationalize that I made the right choice by dropping $20 on this game not on PC but I've already thrown my controller across the room twice.

Plz hlp

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The speed of your party is dependent on the size of your force (as well as pathfinding skill and having spare horses in inventory to carry heavy items if you're carrying any). In some regions the independents are weak and can be managed with fresh recruits (looters, forest bandits) but elsewhere they are much more powerful (steppe bandits, sea raiders). It might be prudent to relocate to safer areas.

However, if you want to have a quick start, you should ignore peasant troops initially and get some money on your own (no enemies can catch you, so you can trade, do tournaments or do quests without danger) and then recruit mercenaries from taverns to bolster your ranks and only then recruit peasant troops from villages. Highly upgraded national troops are stronger and cheaper than mercs but this trick allows them to actually survive and level up with mercs doing the heavy lifting (you can even put them to separate command groups and leave peasants out of battle). Once you and your companions gain some levels, you can invest in training skill, allowing you to upgrade your peasant troops within a day or two and the need for bootstrapping with mercs disappears.

For the beginning parts of the game your focus is making your character stronger, try not to worry too much about building an army.

Go to the arena and practice fighting until you feel like you've gotten good.

Participate in tourneys, bet money on yourself and accumulate wealth to purchase better armor/weapons for your character.

Once you get a strong main character you start recruiting peasant tier soldiers and start fighting bandits. If you are skill enough try the Nord bandits because they are the most profitable to kill; they are the toughest however.

I don't feel like giving any more tips so good luck.

>losing to bandits

Oh it's out, how does it control?

>Mount and Blade combat on a controller
I feel for you

Meeee is good enough, horseback is mehhhhh which sucks because it's most useful

Avoid bandits that arent looters or low tier deserters, and upgrade your recruits into range units at first. Bandit AI will always charge at you, unlike lords, so just put your archers on a hill and let them kill most of the bandits from a distance.

Dont take too big of a party at first, so that you always can run away from those you don't want to fight, and avoid regions crawling with bandits (Nord coast, Swadian woods, etc.) or you'll get ganged up by too many bandits you can't take on.

Do plenty of trade early on, buy cheap ressources in certain towns and sell them high elsewhere. A few very profitable trade routes exist, just have to find them (iron from Curaw-Sargoth is a quick/safe one that can get you plenty of early cash to get set up with troop/equipment).

When your guy is decently leveled-up join a faction as a merc, it's a monthly contract so you don't get stuck with a weak faction or one that isnt fighting. Follow stronger lords around and join their battles, capture prisoners, and get some XP for your units. As soon as you start to get some higher tier units things get easier.

Also do some of the easy quests for the villages (train peasants, defend from bandits, etc.). Boosting your relations with them will allow you to recruit more units at once and speed up the process when you get defeated and have to restart.

>Controller

This is your first problem

I actually think it plays good with a controller. Regardless of what you play with or as. The only thing that bugs me is the only having 100 at most for battles and max players for MP is 32.

>think this faggot is trolling
>serious responses in this thread
>look it up
>mountain blade released on consoles two days ago
what the fuck

Yah brah

Many of games have been porting to consoles. Some better than others

What's your difficulty set at?
If it's the easiest, you need to train.

How do I make the game less grindy once I'm at the gathering holdings and fiefdoms phase? I help capture almost everything, but only very seldom do I get a castle or village.

If I get anything it's always in a contested area, meaning it's absolutely impossible to keep hold off, especially castles since the entire army of 5-10 vassals of the opposing kingdom will ride up and siege it out, whilst my nations army is moving on to other targets.

thats when you stop playing the game

Unfortunately, that's how the game goes. I downloaded the mod world "Sword of Damocles - Warlords" and it made the game better. The AI rewarded me more often, the villages get a population system that, if taken care of, can sometimes allow for 25 - 30 2nd tier troops to be recruited off the bat.

There are also better mercenaries, so you can hire a good group of men quickly to defend the new castle if it is in a highly combative area

Savescum your way to winning a tournament (while betting on yourself)
This will give you plenty of cash

Pump up your path-finding immediately, and/or hire a hero with high pathfinding. This will let you run away

There's a little trick if you want to take every single castle
Well first you need to have the capacity to take an entire castle on your lonesome, no small feat since without a mod like say "Diplomacy" or likewise, it will take ages to train up that many Nord Huscarls or Swadian Knights (the two best for taking castles)

Anyway once you have your huscarls/knights, siege the castle on your own and take it. Now your Lord might award it to someone else, so declare independence and take your castles with you. Then immediately run your ass to a neighboring kingdom (since you just declared independence you are now at peace with every kingdom) and swear fealty to its king. You now keep whatever holdings you were holding, and yes you can repeat this trick to go back to your first King (or at least I did)

Why would someone buy a port of a pc game on console? Its going to be a gimped version with worse controls and you even paid like twice the price of the full collection

Anyway, do this I'd even say you should play some tournaments/arena matches until you git gud and can take on small bandit packs by yourself

Early on if you're not terrible in fighting you can take down early bandit forces pretty easily without needing your forces to engage. Make sure that whenever the first mission says "Collect 5 men", say fuck it and get like 20. Make sure you're upgrading your soldiers and buying equipment for yourself, while doing missions or setting up production places in cities so you don't go broke. An easy way to get money early on is tournaments, just keep betting 500 on yourself and hope you're not shit at the game

Couple of things I dislike about the console port

Cannot turn off autosaving

Several quality of life improvements made in expansions like Viking Conquest or various mods were not implemented. Like holy fuck man I forgot how aggravating trying to herd cattle in Native was.

Find a horse, find the longest lance you can, stack archers of any kind, run around your enemies lancing them while your archers rape them, become unstoppable.

Buy it on PC.

zerg with mamlukes. you'll tear down armies 4x the size of your own.

>Buy on ps4
There is your first problem

Go back play AAA movie games

>build a merry band of peasants with a few knights after training myself in a few tournies
>start clearing out bandit holds around villages and towns and castles
>nobles and king thank me, get my reputation up
>band is fairly large now, over 50 men most of them upgraded
>start taking part in battles with the king against other nations
>BTFO of everybody, take many nobles hostage
>king absolute loves me, gives me a fief
>the second i get one literally every other fucking nation declares war on me
>fight like 5 battles in a row, my 120 man army is decimated, taken prisoner, fief destroyed, no money

;_;

Swadian Knights*

It's a game. You have to play it.

>Cannot turn off autosaving

What the fuck. How bad is the port?

>start off game
>buy as many troops as you can until you can't buy any more
>go around pillaging villages
>sell things you get from it
>buy more villagers
>win tournaments
>git gud

>Why would someone buy a port of a pc game on console?

"Wah! Don't take our exclusives!"

Sorry muh Lord, but the peasants come for thine chicken tendies

>Ignoring the "Don't release Bloodborne on PC" petition and the cries of Sonyggers when Nier was announced for PC

But nevermind that, if there's actually a case where a game should be exclusive to ANY platform, it's Mount and Blade. At least until consoles get proper mods and stronger CPUs. Playing M&B with less than 100 units in a battle takes away a lot from the game and the lack of mods doesn't help the game at all, considering they are what's keeping this game alive.

Download native tweaks and set the recruitment size to 20-50 peasants. That's what I do. Less running around recruiting dudes 2 at a time, more fun.

Win tournaments for money.

>Dont give a shit about your army at first, use them as bait while you train your own fighting skills
>Do tournaments and bet the maximum amount on yourself every round (you can savescum if you really suck, but usually you should be ok)
>Start with Swadians. They have weak as fuck bandits. Nords have one of the strongest early game (sea raiders)
>Horses are OP in open battles, as are bows. Combine them for EZ mode early game (they suck when sieging though, but you'll be gud if you get to that point anyway)

Don't forget to have fun.

There are two options open to you:

1) Repeatedly kill weak bandit groups with your villagers, simultaneously levelling them up and selling the loot to earn money used to upgrade your own gear and recruit more men.

2) Run around solo killing small groups of bandits, selling their money, grind out arena fights and attend tournaments. After a few hours of this, you will be rich and OP. With a decent character and start-up money it's not hard to carry your band of peasants until they get good enough to stand on their own feet as warriors; though generally, at this point you're swinging back to the first option and having a much easier time at it.

DESU though, you should probably just get it on PC. Controller gameplay for Warband is fucking terrible and half the reason people play the game is for mods - which are PC.

Nah you definitely fucked up m8.

It's a potato game, your PC definitely could have run it.
>horseback is mehhhhh which sucks because it's most useful
This one really is a case of git gud. Horseback combat is just something you gotta get the hang of. Same with bows, but once you master both, holy shit.
Warband had autosaving? I just remember Save & Quit being the closest equivalent.

>TalesWorld have been neglecting Mount and Blade 2 to release Warband on fucking consoles.

Mount and Blade really is a game you should play on PC though. It doesn't even require a good pc.

More like they keep running out of money for M&B2 so they release shit expansions and ports.

That picture is a joke, right?
There's not actually an official guide for that game, right?

R-right?

If you play on realistic, it does autosave at some point. If I remember correctly.

Reload some time ago, sometime you get bad luck and everyone comes to rekt you ass together
Sucks that the ally AI is shit and you'll end up figthing alone while they do fuckall, at least if you're marshall you can give some orders to lords and make them a bit somewhat useful

Also I learned to prioritize quality over quantity, 120 men don't mean shit if they're low level shitters, get good combinations and use them to the fullest. Since you're always going to be outnumbered, you need to make sure you can kill the most enemies with the fewest losses

I''m not even that good, but I'm happy how far I got in this run, too bad I left it on hitaus since I was wasting way too much time

Don't get salty about shit I didn't say
Console to PC has a chance of being better, the same, or worse, but even the worst ports can have some pros of being on PC

But the other way around is a stupid choice, probably works as a cashgrab for companies but its stupid to get a gimped version
And Warband doesn't even need a good pc, you could probably play it at similar level to PS4 with a lot of home pcs

How are the Game of Thrones mods?

I think realistic just makes it so you can't quit without saving, no autosave

No, it actually save automatically though. You can see the save file named autosave.sav

Avoid areas where bandits have horses, because they can be stronger AND faster than your early armies.

If you start in Praven you should be able to manage your army strength and speed against bandits. Attack what you can beat, avoid what you can't.

>Mount and Blade with a controller

Holy fuck. Good luck, buddy, enjoy getting plowed. I can't even imagine how impossible it will be for you to use ranged horseback combat effectively

Better. They used to crash like a motherfucker due to so much shit going on but they've been optimized somewhat. You want Clash of Kings for now.

Also worth checking out is The Last Days of the Third Age (LOTR).

And if you don't mind "so bad it's good" mods, then get Warwolf. The dialogue is hilariously bad as it was written by a Russian so you already know what kind of dialogue to expect, then he ran it through Google Translate for the English version. On the flipside though it has shit like the Roman Empire vs Three Kingdoms China vs the Crusades vs Sengoku Japan, etc etc.

Shit's crazy, and as expected, Lu Bu will fuck you up.

It even makes auto backup too. File name is last_savegame_backup.sav

>buying m&b on consoles
what?it even runs well on toasters

most of my guys were upgraded to the 3rd tier at least

i just got rekt by archers and heavy horse

i havent played in months but now i want to pull up a save

Mamelukes are great for getting prisoners if you can stand having to go find a ransom broker, sea raiders also sell for the highest so if you use that strategy then it's best to fuck their shit up anyways for the loot and the prisoners.

How the fuck even navigate UI like this with a controller? using mouse is already pain enough.

I bought it to support the devs.

>hey can you escort this caravan that goes at a snails pass all the way to the other side of the map with 100 denars?

>buy game on my shitty laptop
>game runs fine at first
>do the tutorial mission with the bandit hideout
>fps suddenly drops to single digits
you guys lied

>mount and blade on consoles

>buying laptop without any dedicated gpu
Woah

>hey, can you herd this 90 stack of cattle to the other side of the map for 100 denars?

>tfw save scumming and playing on the easiest settings
I really hate games where you can lose hours of grinding because or RNG or a small mistake. It's comfy now but I'm at the point where I have 3 castles and fuck-all to do. Even when I'm marshall we just lose everything we conquer because of dumb AI so it feels pointless.

Cavalry can be a pain in the ass, my huscarls deal pretty good with them but they can fuck up my sharpshooter if they get close, also fucking lance wielders can mean get someone one-shotted on the first charge
I'm pretty happy with Hurscarls+Rodok Sharpshooters I added the Sergeants recently, but I'm not sure if they're good or not, at least they're pretty tough, trying to see if I get some swadian knights too

But its now being a pain in the ass that I'm in the middle of sandniggerland and can't restock my recruits without all the castles I just got getting overrun

Fuck, these threads make we wanna keep going with that save too

I have no idea, maybe use the triggers or R1/L1 to navigate sideways? Maybe it just has been simplified

Yep, painful enough.

I'm pretty sure you can't even die in M&B

You can in Fire & Sword. Real easily too.

But you can get captured or lose your fiefs. hell I even save scum if I win a battle but lose too much troops.

I am glad it came out on ps4. Now I can play it comfy and it is a damn comfy game. I won a tournament and it felt good. My guy is called Big Baws McGraw he is strong and a big ginger. Brilliant game.

No, you can only get captured as a prisoner and then get gangraped at every camping site or siege idle time until you wish you were killed

>The Last Days of the Third Age
did that shit ever got fixed? It was pretty well made but tons of crashes

It works slightly better on vanilla M&B, as opposed to Warband

Fpbp
I've been playing mountain blade since the original came out and I never knew extra horses in your inventory increased movement speed... Fml

I didn't know about the ctrl+space time compression hotkey and I got to owning my own cities without it. Hundreds of hours down the drain.

>PS4 port
what the fuck when did that happen I'd think Cred Forums would have been filled with shitposting when it happened

That's only when you're carrying heavy trade goods. A set of extra arrows or a sack of grain probably doesn't slow you down (at least to any noteworthy extent).

Anyway, horse quality doesn't matter in this regard so, supposing you've been keeping a few spare horses with you in case your current horse gets wounded or killed, you've probably got the benefits without knowing it.

steamcommunity.com/app/48700/discussions/0/535150948599346124/ seems to have some slightly more precise info.

One other thing for beginners

mountandblade.wikia.com/wiki/Strange_set

Getting this early on is a big help. Its stats aren't great, but its a completely free and rather nice looking set of armour and weapons hidden in chests throughout the game. You might not be able to get all of it on PS4 though

>spawning shit in game editor to get items
Why not just use cheats at that point? Less hassle and basically the same thing.