Dragon Quest VII MIDI OST

Reminder that this meme started from a tranny that also started the Soleil FE Fates controversy.

Literally google "Koichi Sugiyama xenophobic" and there's tonnes of shit

He refuses to accept ANY of the Japanese atrocities during World War 2. When the US tried to request apologies for certain atrocities in 2004, he campaigned AGAINST something like this that would strengthen Japan/American relations. He's a hardcore nationalist.

its not about the size, these arent midis, they are just recordings using synth instruments instead of orchestral recordings, same filetype, same file size.

He's an atrocity denier. Grorious Nippon would never do anything wrong during WW2 and was in the right

Don't worry, user

he's 85 years old. He'll be dead soon.

This

>mfw buyfags are spending money on the objectively inferior product

And you know what's the worst part about this? They'll also buy DQ8 which is already confirmed to use synth shit

I'm guessing they cut out the problem of not allowing the game to be advertised/streamed using his music by just getting his compositions changed by another composer for the purpose of the games release in the west.

The clusterfuck of streaming DQ Heroes and policing it Sugiyama requested full credit during ALL streams, paid or not, for DQ Heroes was enough to get them to just change it and avoid that headache.

Nigga he's 85.

He's got another 15 years of work before retiring

but then who will do the dragon quest music

I honestly ahte this. I've bought the game on physical copy, and want to hack and mod my 3ds JUST for thsi reason. I am on a previous software (10.5 or something), and I have a couple of questions.

Can I still play online in monster hunter?
Can I play ds games?
Can I upload snes games and what not?
Can I put in custom themes?
Can I transfer my save in DQ?

>Japanese
He'll be alive when we die

Hopefully someone more progressive and tolerant.

Bioware

>Fags in this thread looking for any excuse to pirate
My niggas...just fucking do it, stop trying to find excuses. Man up and accept that you're dirty pirates killing Dragon Quest in the West ; )

Literally anyone else, and preferably something who isn't a complete dickhead about international copyright.

this
they used the same excuse for tms

>Can I still play online in monster hunter?
No
>Can I play ds games?
Physical
>Can I upload snes games and what not?
What?
>Can I put in custom themes?
Yes
>Can I transfer my save in DQ?
No

All that and more
But depending on your firmware version now you are probably fucked.

>tfw this shit will happen all over again with DQ11 when we finally get it 3 years after it comes out in japan

>who isn't a complete dickhead about international copyright
Good thing that's exactly who we have right now.

This guy sounds pretty badass. I wish more artists were like him and not whinny SJWs.

Name a worse boss theme

youtube.com/watch?v=7B4X0yB9ZKM

You probably can't

You can't kill what is dead already.

I like it.
Sugiyama's music is fun.

i can't wait

youtube.com/watch?v=lrpglqYeQBc

>EOPs trying to justify their butchered purchase
top kek
it's never too late to learn bros

youtube.com/watch?v=5X6FicbIK0I
youtube.com/watch?v=nmAcftjW8AU

I honestly prefer the MIDI version in this case. The orchestra definitely has more natural instruments, but the MIDI version has way better sound balancing, and that's way more important to me than "real instruments vs fake instruments"

Something doesn't add up. There is no way a company like Square doesn't require the composer to give up international rights from the get go.

I mean they are among the very few Japanese companies with sufficient leverage to force voice-actor companies to transfer international rights to them. No way their lawyers would just forget to do that with a mere composer.

We don't know

they would have to pay more to use the orchestra

Yes to all. Follow Plailect's guide to install A9HL+Luma3DS

Square's the one doing most of the work, Nintendo is just paying for it. Nintendo doesn't need to be a scapegoat 24/7 for all of Square's shitty decisions

Put the pieces together m8. Look at the shit he pulled with Heroes. He's obviously the problem.

>There is no way a company like Square doesn't require the composer to give up international rights from the get go

He's likely still on his old contract from his Enix days

Didn't the same shit happen with the DS version of FFIV, where they could not use the end credits theme in the US and had to replace it with something generic?

Heroes was published by SE and came with a lot of bullshit restrictions on streaming. Like, you couldn't do paid stream with the music on and you had to explicitly leave this

>© 2015 ARMOR PROJECT/BIRD STUDIO/KOEI TECMO GAMES/ SQUARE ENIX All Rights Reserved.
>© SUGIYAMA KOBO

On the video

I read somewhere that the orchestral soundtrack didn't loop correctly, and that the midi soundtrack is band aid on that issue

Yeah, it doesn't loop, but I don't think that's the issue here. I'm 100% convinced Sugiyama is the problem here, given his reluctance on having his recorded music in the west.

I wish SE would just come out and state why this is

I'm fine with the midi. The tunes are catchy and they fit the game. That's all that matters to me while I'm focused on gameplay and story.
Now, when I'll finish the game, I'll download the orchestrated versions to hear them on my mp3 player and enjoy some music.
That's it.

That excuse is top kek, they should just be honest.

OLD MEN RUNNING THE WORLD

This may be a really stupid question, but I bought the game, have yet to play it, but is there a way to download the orchestrated version and use that with my real copy? Or should I just download the game as a whole with the orchestrated patch?

Would you be so kind to provide a link please? I downloaded one that supposedly had the orchestral music but didn't.

Yes, that IS a stupid question

If it's their own work damn asians have a strong sense of copyrights

The sound on the 3ds is garbage anyway, who the fuck cares

Not that user but I hacked my 3ds last week to play the Japanese version of DQ7 and I have no idea what Luma is for. What does it do?

I only really noticed the issue in fishbel (first town). a lot of other music loops fine

dont listen to he doesnt know what hes talking about.

you can do everything you asked.

Christ google it you fag. Cred Forums isn't /r/

luma is cfw

All the battle themes are better as midi versions

Cool, thanks.

Why would that even be the composer's decision to make? Square doesn't own full rights to music they hired him to make for their games? How does that happen?

All the battle themes are pretty fucking terrible even as DQ games go, I mean holy fuck, I'd never played VII before but it sounds like he phoned this shit in

Wait, I don't get it. In the original release of 8, wasn't it the west who got orchestral music and the nihon-niggers who got midi bullshit?

Shit like this is LITERALLY why piracy occurs.

There is no way in hell I'd give them money for a subpar experience.

That'd be like paying for a loaded Lexus and getting some shitbucket without a radio, Cruise control or Air Con instead.

"Just because"

>Why would that even be the composer's decision to make? Square doesn't own full rights to music they hired him to make for their games? How does that happen?
He's not a Square employee, he's an old Enix employee with an old Enix contract, seemingly with a lot more creative copyright control than other Japanese composers, and he's protecting that shit. Look at the shit he pulled with Heroes, he's a prick.

Look at the other big Japanese composer - Uematsu. Was a Square employee at the time of the merger, yet retained no rights whatsoever to his own music. He had to pay for the rights to use his own compositions in The Black Mages/Papas ffs

Was that guy the other day that said that the orchestral hack broke his emunand just spouting bullshit?

I'm not a risk taker.

>implying Fighting Spirit isn't the third best battle theme after War Cry and Go for Broke

youtube.com/watch?v=VL_UzXs03N8

how do I get this patch on a legit copy of the game

I'm sorry but that does not clear up what the CFW does

>The game has a tiny flaw!
>It's okay to pirate it now boys!

I can deal with pirates. I fucking HATE the fags that try to make it seem like they're somehow justifying themselves by doing this. If you choose to pirate something, whatever. You're anonymous, you don't have to fucking prove your virtue to us - we know you're a dirty pirate.

Also
>Car analogy
Shut up m8

You still have to hack your 3DS, gonzo.

it allows you to run and install custom shit

This makes no sense. Sugiyama has just as much right to the writing as to the orchestral music. Having the music being played by MIDI instruments doesn't change anything.

I call bullshit. Is there any creditable source? I only found forum posts and shitty blogs cross-referencing eachothers.

well shit

Honestly, I would not have noticed anything was different about the music if you guys didn't tell me. The music doesn't seem that bad in midi form from what I've played of it, though, or at least doesn't bother me enough that I feel the need to get the patched version. Maybe I just have shit taste.

This. The game itself is good. It plays good and it has a good story. The midi music, while not perfect, is still good.

Despite all these qualities, pirates would focus on ONE detail just to justify their actions.
And in the case of DQ it is even worse because if the games don't sell, we can kiss DQ in the west forever.

It's not bad, just incredibly bizarre and there's no real reason for them to have changed it.

>This makes no sense. Sugiyama has just as much right to the writing as to the orchestral music. Having the music being played by MIDI instruments doesn't change anything.
Recordings =/= composition, it's likely SE paid for the international rights to the composition, not the recordings.
>I call bullshit. Is there any creditable source? I only found forum posts and shitty blogs cross-referencing eachothers.
It's called drawing your own conclusions user. There's a lot of "muh censorship" shit that's come around the same way, yet it's accepted.

Occams razor and all that.

>Is there any creditable source?
no
nobody knows for sure
everything is rumors

the only source i found while googling was that apparently for the jp release, sugiyama wanted synth music in the first place but was talked into using the orchestral recordings for the jp release. that was years ago. doesn't necessarily explain the situation now.

>source
Some tranny's ass.
twitter.com/andrearitsu/status/776266343196848128

>Is there any creditable source?
Is there any credible source for anything localization related? Not really. People draw conclusions themselves, and most of the time they're close enough to be correct

Nobuo Uematsu locked in a room with all the other OST's, a full classical orchestra and no mobile phone to call for help.

NTR plugin.

>final faggotry shit
Please no.

So wait can I get the orchestral get if I'm playing a physical copy? Have homebrew.

no
install cia or go without nerd

The synth music sounds better 90% of the time, literally only the brass sounds better on the recordings

throw the physical copy in the garbage, install the one with the orchestra.

Occams razor leads to the conclusion that a powerful company like Square doesn't let one individual fuck them over. Also no reputable source = bullshit.

So, no source. I love all these Cred Forums tards trying to talk shit as usual.

I'll give you that. I don't really know why it was changed, either. I think the only reason I'm not too beat up about it is because I never really cared for orchestrated remixes.

So is the game actually worth getting?

It's pretty retarded, yeah. I will say that the midi music is still pretty good, I was playing that version for a day or so before I switched over to a version with the orchestral music patched in.

I don't know if this is a good enough reason to be angry. They made the MIDI version from scratch, it's not straight from the original or anything. It's just a bizarre and rather stupid change.

The game itself is good, though I think I'm getting DQ fatigue. If it weren't for Maribel I think I might have already moved on to SMT IV.

>Cred Forumstards
>trying to pin the blame on a nationalist
You aren't very bright are you

So tempted to use the money cheat on DQ7

It's political garbage, no matter what it tries to convey. Keep it in Cred Forums, please.

awkward.. .I prefer the MIDI

orchestra in games 90% of the time is mistake. I turned off music in skyrim it really grated on me.

MIDIs music in games jsut sounds better

>Not savescumming at the casino

For DQ fans and classic turn-based RPG fans, it's definitely worth buying.

You don't need an excuse to pirate to make you feel better. You can feel like shit knowing you're preventing further DQ titles from ever coming to the west. Thanks!

>3ds
>purchase

Explain

what if i pirate and buy it fag
what then

come on and step to me motherfucker and see what happens

An old Enix employee in a country that respects its elder generation to the point where they let them run companies in to the ground? Yes, I believe that would happen.

There's never a reputable source with shit like this, hence why we're drawing our own conclusions given the info available.

The midi ones has a very early 90's feeling, like i can hear 4 different channels and that's pretty much all they can do.

People mistakenly think that orchestra =better. But if you pick, say, the Crazybus main theme and make it orchestrated, it will still be shit. Because the music itself is shit. DQVII's orchestra sounds good because its midi music sounds already good.

The shit you win from the matching game sells for thousands of gold.

>the Crazybus main theme and make it orchestrated
sounds like some next level art, user

>changing the music
>tiny flaw

The music is the same. The instruments changed. See the mistake?

When you compare something a guy did with his DX7 with a full blown orchestra of course the later will sound richer.
The midi fits the old psx version better, so of course they made a new orchestral composition for the remake.

That is changing the music. Its just not changing the composition

I'm seeing a modified version of the EUR copy, is there a modified version of the US version too or is this it?

>He still had to purchase a 3DS

Whatever you need to sleep at night m8

Fuck off, Sugiyama is from another time you pussies. His music is great and that's all that matters

>His music is great
Ehhhhhhh it's okay. Let's not oversell it.

the oiriginal was a modified us version so yeah it exiss

bitch this is the greatest battle music OF ALL TIME
youtube.com/watch?v=sF8M0a4JIZo&index=5&
ENGAGE ME

youtube.com/watch?v=7dRv1vNvfuk&list=PL61F0F922BB388418&index=15

Nah, he's pretty good.

Got. I'll still be buying the game because I'm not a piece of shit though. Does anyone know if it works better on N3DS?

They gave up that already.
Even MH Generations is locked 30 in both consoles.

The DQ7 boss theme is one of the only boss themes in the series I really like besides the ones in 3

The patched CIA with orchestral music is like the same size

Revo

>If I died you'd remember me forever and ever right?
>No
Bullying Maribel is too much fun

meh

Not him, but when I tried to install it I also got the same problem even though I hadn't even installed it. After some trial and errors, turns out my sdcard was almost full. After deleting some games, it worked properly again. So I guess if you still use emunand, you have to leave some space in it. Don't ever let it get to red.

She deserves it.

Nah she's cool.

Funniest character in the game

been playing that thanks to the save transfer. so much better holy shit
i feel bad for you buy fags, same with $80 fe

Are sure that this is the actual reason though? with dragon quest 8 it was literally the opposite. JP got midi and the west got orchestrated.

>Nah she's cool.
Sure, if you're a fucking doormat.

Sorry, but as much as I like DQ, this battle theme is much better.
youtube.com/watch?index=5&v=sF8M0a4JIZo

It's bullshit. He's just baiting by pretending to be a SJW offended the composer doesn't have politically correct beliefs.

Grorious midi donut steel

As long as she's not shitting on me she's fun.

She has the funniest lines in the game when she's not being tsundere.

Can't say I disagree.

Sorry I'll let you fnish but THIS is the best battle music of all time

youtube.com/watch?v=btHMMDz27hw

KING FARADY DID NOTHING WRONG

Sorry BUT this one is.
youtube.com/watch?v=btHMMDz27hw

Final Fantasy music has more wide appeal since it's full of "emotional" stuff but DQ's music has more craft.

FF VI is the exception though that game was very good.

>He's just baiting by pretending to be a SJW offended the composer doesn't have politically correct beliefs.
What?

Look at all the other replies

You fag. He hates the west and is using the terms of his contract to block shit, obviously.

Put the Heroes and DQVII situations together and you can see that he's got a serious pain in the bum about his music going west.

Good for him for not being a loser by not owning his own music.

Unfortunate he hates us though.

>Shitting on Uematsu using FF as an excuse.

For real. Vidya OSTs are big deal in Japan, he's probably making mad bank.

>mfw Sony got a cut of every copy of Xenoblade Chronicles X sold because Sawano is under a publishing contract with Sony Music

Fuck, SMT IV: Apocalypse just came out too.

Can I just install the orchestra version over the regular version and not lose my save since it's the same titleid and everything?

The question is how the fuck is he still alive.

Hopefully someone who isn't a huge bitch like Sugiyama is.

t. tranny

I'm about 3 hours in, approaching the tower with the knight guy. I'm enjoying it, but when does it start to get really interesting.

Synthesized 3DS version is actually better.

if thats true explain dragon quest 8 ps2

DQ 8's synthesized soundtrack is still pretty damn good though. What would have been unacceptable was if they took cockney Yangus away from us.

youtu.be/vyPBkgUwHPw

DESU the transitions of the orchestral pieces are kinda awkward at times. Entering battles is kinda obnoxious, but I do prefer the orchestral music overall

How does he reconcile making western sounding music for a western medieval inspired game and then saying he doesn't want non nips to hear it?

Some guy said he lost his save doing that. You can try, but back up your save with JKSM or whatever beforehand just in case

Silly me forgot to copy the link.
youtube.com/watch?v=Cw6Wc3VzNzE

I backup my save using data management and it restore alright. But yeah if you want to be extra careful backup it too with JKSM.

They're synth instruments, not MIDIs. it's the same exact filesize as the orchestral versions.

My best guess is that there were a few songs on the orchestral OST that weren't actually the full songs and thus looped awkwardly if you hung around the area they played in for too long. Since the orchestral OST was taken off of the older Symphonic Suites CD, which wasn't recorded with the intention of being used in game.

>Spent 10+ hours playing DQ7
>Just finished the Alltrades Abbey past part and got my first vocations

yeah that's enough Dragon Quest for today

I went with Warrior for Hero, Mage for Mariel and Priest for Ruff

I'm just about at the point of finishing Alltrades Abbey's bullshit, still not sure what I'm gonna do for classes for Hero and Ruff.

Does anyone know if they made Sailor less shit in the 3DS version?

It was 12 years ago and he was obviously soured on the experience..?

>nobody has anything to say in party chat when you visit Kiefer's grave

>Waaahh SE is shit they never bring DQ over but they make time for every spin off of Final Faggotry
>Pirates it day 1
>The MIDI is shit and CENSORSHIP I for one will not be purchasing this game when my TANF comes in
>Proceeds to pirate Heroes, Builders and VIII 3DS
>FUCKING SE NOT BRINGING DQXI OVER WHY DON'T THEY CARE ABOUT REAL DQ FANS IN THE WEST LIKE ME

Sorry but I could use help. Just finished the robot island in present day, I know I go to this pedestal but I'm missing this piece. Does anyone know where it is by chance? Sorry for the phone pic.

>Proceeds to pirate Heroes, Builders and VIII 3DS

I wouldn't even bother pirating Heroes or Builders.

I picked Warrior for Hero since has 0 offensive spells or abilities

I went with Priest for Ruff since I wanted him to get at least some use out of his MP.

I was tempted to make Ruff a Thief but I dunno how useful that'd be

Go to the info option in the menu. It tells you where to get the shards.

>hurr durr muh MIDI
Gee whiz, I'm glad I don't have autism and can tell the difference between synth and midi and don't care about it, as they both sound good.

>implying the people shitposting about censorship and MIDI were ever going to buy it to begin with

All the classes merge or branch off into better classes so it's worth doing a bunch of shit on everyone. There's some obvious ones like Mage + Priest = Sage but also some weirder ones. Worst case you'll need to grind a little but it shouldn't be anywhere near as bad as in the PS1 version.

Fuck am I an idiot, didn't know you can do that. Thanks.

youtube.com/watch?v=pBQIbiHeHhY

it sounds like they cut down on the battles needed to gain ranks in a vocation down significantly. right when i started off the woman said every needed 5 battles for rank up whereas in the original it was 10

The beginning classes level up pretty quickly. You get to keep all of their abilities and skills as well.

Sugiyama didn't even want the JP version of 8r to have orchestral music.

He's the former head of JASRAC so naturally his views on licensing are even more backwards than Nintendo's.

Where the hell is the reformed monster in the "Town of Machines"?
I've swept through the town and castle on Faraday island twice now, talking to everyone, and haven't been able to find him.
Do I need to clear a later island before he appears?

DELET THIS

>Do I need to clear a later island before he appears?
Yeah you need to continue the story before some of them appear.
He's the guy in the gimp mask I think in the inn.

>finish roamer'sisland quest
>Kiefer leaves you for the first sight of puss he gets
>doesn't even say goodbye to his dad and his thithter who are worried sick
>just goes "alright I found my purpose, you guys go tell the news for them for me, it's not like I could go with you then come back here"
>camp is gone the next time you come back to the island so you can't drag hiss ass to the castle so he can give them a proper goodbye
What a total dick move.

>15 hours in
>still no classes yet
Fug

Did you have the pink robot break down in front of the inventor's house?

Yeah, I've finished the plotline in both the past and present version of the island, but that's as far as I am in the story.

Pussy is one hell of a drug.

Is it the third or fourth reformed monster?

>Beat the crab in the tower with Hanlon
>Start fighting Maeve
>Just sits there and takes it

I'm getting Pankraz flashbacks

This would be the fifth one, after the chef in Emberdale, the Kingfuchsia, the Woeburgene, and the Slime.

>Let's make this robot continue to carry out it's task to care for its master that has been dead for a long ass time rather than disassemble it and learn from it, setting us back on our research considerably.

Well if you say so.

>No option to piss on his grave in the present

Ok, my mistake. By any chance do you know if a guide for them exists?

Talk to E.L.L.I.E. after it is brought back home

>doesn't even say goodbye to his dad and his thithter who are worried sick

Yeah i didn't get that either.

I heard the orchestral doesn't loop properly, anyone confirm this?

Nah, I've only been able to find directions for the ones up to the chef, that's why I tried asking here.

No u got export ur save with savedatafiler first. Then reinstall and delete secure value and import the save back.

I just imported my eur sae to usa orch ver.

I can not tell the fucken difference.

>15 hours in
>get to the Abbey
>here are your classes jk enjoy your medicinal herbs Maribel

>Hey buddy welcome to town, I'm going to beat your party up for no real reason
>Oi m8, the names patches. I know of a cave that leads to a way out.
>Just kidding!

>Fighting the pig and tiger
>"Wow this fight is fucking tough, they wouldn't put me against two fights where I'm supposed to lose in a row though"
>Use my Yggdrasil Leaf
>Suddenly those chucklefucks enter maximum assblast mode and completely wipe my whole party
>I was supposed to lose

Wait till you get to arena and the rematch.

I grinded on the gauntlets. Till i could take that bitch out.

I like MIDI. I could care less.

I'd say this is the best route for each character.

Hero: Warrior - Dancer (for Sworddanc) - Mage - Ranger - Cleric - Sage - Fighter - Paladin - Hero
Gabo: Shepherd - Theif - Tamer - Warrior - Dancer (for Sworddanc) Fighter - Dragoon - Cleric - Paladin - Godhand - Hero
Maribel: Dancer - Warrior (for Sworddanc) - Bard - Jester - TeenIdol - Mage - Cleric - Sage - Summoner - Hero
Melvin: Warrior - Dancer (for Sworddanc) - Fighter - Dragoon - Cleric - Paladin - Godhand - Hero
Aira - Warrior - Dancer (make up for Sworddanc) - Bard - Jester - TeenIdol - Mage - Cleric - Sage - Summoner - Hero

I managed to finish all 6 rounds in one try. Having everyone with all target attacks was essential. the last one was tough

>Hero
>not sailor/pirate
You're disgrace to your father.

>Sugi owns the Symphony Suit of the series music
>Square Enix owns the synth compositions made in house
>Nintendo want streamers to stream the game on the Internet for free publicity
>they proceeded to change the soundtrack to go around Koichi's copyright
>the orchestrated version of the soundtrack can be easily modded into the game
>also explains why DQVIII 3DS is not getting the SS music either

I guess some sacrifices had to be made for Nintendo to publish the game over here.

>His music is great
Yeah if only I could listen to it in game :^)

>have to lose two main battles in a row
The absolute madmen.

Where is the third monster for the haven?

What do I do with Emilia's letter?

If jobs are th e same as on ps1 then godhand is a good advanced path for hero and gabo to go towards. Aira too when she joins, shes already part way there to either it or superstar iirc

Is sword dance still in the 3ds ver? Also fighter is good for gabo and hero early off for abilities iirc. Warrior learned less useful stuff

Dang man, just did the herb town. So sad ;_;

>hundreds of hours listening to MUSIC
>tiny flaw

Don't worry user, just wait till you revisit it
It gets even more depressing

The slime is on the pier in Pilchard Bay.
The woeburgene is on the second story of Estard's Inn.
The kingfuischa is on the second floor of Hanlon's tower in present-day Ballymolloy.
The babygoyle is in the bar in present-day emberdale, but isn't available until you clear Faraday island.

Licensing.

just finished the robot town

i feel like i'm a good way into the game already, am I?

>go to one of the tablet dungeons
>find mannequin enemies
>slaughter my characters in one hit
Fuck how are you suppose to handle these guys, pray for a crit? Guessing they drop a fuck ton of gold. Guessing I cime back later.

Thanks.

Greenthumb was fucking stupid and felt like a gigantic waste of time

Congratulations you're only got 70 hours to go

That's not even 10% of the game

Most part it loops fine. Biggest problem is this track:

youtube.com/watch?v=FePJs7v_aGo

>Read a book that mentions the old man and kid

He was mentioned earlier as well, I'm liking how the islands are getting a lot more interconnected as I go on.

just like your existence

>Get back to the Roamer island in the present
>The part of the island with the altar is missing

One of the best parts of the game is how it all neatly fits together

Hero - Hero
Maribel - Sage or Summoner
Ruff - Monster Masher
Aishe - Armamentalist
Mervyn - Paladin or something I guess, ain't got no room for old farts in my party

Would this work?

I was underlvled so by time I could do it I was right lvl.

how underleveled are we talking

14/15/12 I think.

oh. I was something like 16/17/16 i think

This feels like Best DQ ever played 1-2 5 and 8.

>played 1 and 2 but not 3
Why

I am playing 3 too , just 7 is way more fun. I got 3 out I was grinding way ahead barely made it far in 3.

So I hear there's a missable shard which locks you out of a postgame dungeon i you fuck it up?

What exactly do I have to do?

I may be wrong but I believe that only in the ps1 version is it permanently missable.

>One individual
Plenty of Japanese games brought to the West are missing shit because all these individuals also belong to powerful companies that demand $$$

Does anyone know if its possible to move save files from CIAs to purchased digital copies?

In the PS1 game there was a side boss called Gracos V that drops a shard. This was the only potentially-missable shard, as he disappears at some point.

As far as the 3DS game goes, I don't know. If it's the same deal, just fight him as early as you are able.

Boy I sure am glad that all of these basic classes have sleep inducing moves that I'll never ever use.

If you have hacked 3ds, yes.

Which class has buff spells? I need to get Kasap ASAP.

>Hero has the best heals
>he's slow as fuck

Fuck why?

At least now I can turn Maribel into a Priest so she gets better heal spells. Maybe I should turn Ruff to a Priest too since I can use another fast healer.

>kasap
That's debuff.

Mage has Sap and Priest has Buff

Monster Masher has kabuff.

>8 hours in and never uses bank even once
>not because i'm confident not dying, but my gold always get spent everytime there's a new equipment in a new town

>Patches

Ahahahahahaha.

Just dump all your seeds into the Hero and make Maribel or Ruff priests at some point

>Bank only accepts gold in increments of 1000

I never understood the point. So there's at least some penalty to dying?

The trick is to use Buff. Go full out defense mode until you get +2 buff on every character.

I've not been spending my money, only wiped because I got dropped into a boss fight without expecting it, so I hadn't healed. I just reset

But I want to dump my seed into Maribel.

Ah well I got a lot xp , my equip sucked too. I had all gold in bank and was not gonna backtrack.

How do I used Monster Medows?

I've had monsters say they want to go there and I select yes but then when I go there through the heaven there are no monster there or anything

Japanese players didn't actually like the orchestral music.

It was too quiet and it did not loop properly.

>Get destroyed by the Alltrades boss and his double ball attack
>Decide to play it cautiously next time and finally start using buff on everyone
>He doesn't use that attack a single time
Well alright thanks.

What are the max additions with seeds? I've been holding off using them, want to get a decent amount of them.

>2 buffs on everyone
Unless you use kabuff, by the time you finish buffing the last person, the first one would wear off already.

>Priest has Buff
>MM has Kabuff
>the two classes ain't on the same class line

Fug. Guess I should turn everyone to Priest so I can have everyone cast Buff.

Too late. Already dumped my strength seed to Ruff since he's my main attacker since he got no heal/buff spells.

Also some Life seeds to Maribel.

This vocations exploit in the slime dungeon is too strong. I've got everyone in advanced vocations already.

That's odd. My buff still stayed. Brought the defense from 70 to 140.

Pretty much the best idea. Only abilities and magic from the base classes carry over so you'd have to be in whatever class you learn Kabuff in to keep using it anyway.

Explain pls

Since I'm out of the loop, here, let me get this straight.

1. DQVII 3DS had streaming orchestral music in Jaoan

2. They replaced it with not even actual midi music, but streaming midi music (e.g., an mp3 of a midi you record off your sound card)

3. The midi music sounds crappier than the original PSX music

??

Do you guys play with 3d on or off? Always wondered how many people actually use the 3D.

Is it worth it to go Dancer for Hero at least for the beginning just to make him go fast? Doing healing after the enemy's turn is annoying.

It's not any faster. You just earn so little experience grinding there that it's very hard to hit a level cap and get stuck.

I use 3D often.

DQVIII originally used synth. The Americans and Europeans got a superior version with streaming orchestra.

You're literally retarded.

They're synth recordings of the same songs, not MIDIs. Listen to the PS1 music vs the new music and compare for yourself.

Always off since the old 3DS has shitty 3D.

Level cap?

You can grind your vocations killing slimes in the slime dungeon without levelling up, getting it done effortlessly and quickly. You cap at 20 but you should beat the Abbey at 16 or so. Just bring a boomerang.

3d Battles I think are best thing becuase of way it pops at you. walking around is boring.

how many levels is it per class to max out? 10 stars?

8

The slime dungeon? The one where you only fight slimes? You can get job exp by fighting weak enemies?

>ambushed by bandits
>all of them have attacks that hit everyone or deal status effects
S-stop

You stop earning points towards your vocation level if the enemies you're fighting are too weak. This happens if you're over a certain level in the area.
The slime dungeon caps out at level 20 so you can grind there for ages because you're only getting 3 exp or so per battle.

And they're all faster than my party members.

Fug gotta need that buff spells.

Ah, thanks for the explanation. Off to grind there then.

I'm gonna play through without grinding jobs at all and see how far that gets me

>Maribel's Muscle Dance

What class gets you Oomph?

>Finish up the Alltrades Abbey quest
>Maribel comments how horrible that was and hopes you'll never have to do that ever again

Maribel and I think alike

Guys
> synth recording

If you make chiptune music digitally with only a couple channels of audio and then record it as a streaming BRSTM audio, or whatever the hell format the 3ds uses for audio nowadays, it's not a "synth recording," it's basically a fucking midi in all but filetype.

>Immediately change Maribel's class to Jester
Now we'll see who NTRs who you funny little bitch.

Maribel also criticizes the fuck out the guy in Greenherb.

Anyone know what's the blessed thing the kid in Emberdale is looking for?

I need help.

I'm in the robots island and I can't find the captain anywhere. I already got kicked out from the automaton base and I spoke with the king. I went to the officer's mess and he's not there, but party chat says he is standing there.

Did I just find a game-breaking bug?

Am I just imaging things, but wasent there a dancing girl during the Emberdale volcano party in the original game? With a crappy FMV?

Because these games involve a bit of grinding do you guys just watch something while you level and gear up?

Reminder to use Field View Type 2 for faster camera rotating.

>no cheats on AR
serves me right for thinking I could avoid grinding for gold.

Not Emberdale. It was Kiefer's waifu.

Reminder that the settings for 3D in the in-game menu are reversed. I.e. Weak 3D has a strong effect and vice versa

What a back stabbing asshole.

Talk to the guards in the mess.

God, did Cred Forums get invaded by tumblr pussies? I fully defend that guy's right to be xenophobic and do whatever the fuck he wants.

Ah man, that's a shame and I'm at 11.0 on my 3DS, I guess I'm fucked

I have a few questions about DQVII

>is the story good?
>is the combat fun?
>does it stay interesting the entire way through?

interested in possibly buying this, never played the original. most I've played of dragon quest is the very first NES game and DQ9 both of which I never completed.

nvm, found him in town
still, party chat is fucked and was misleading me

She's still there and she's even there in the present, just no FMV.

By the way, where the hell is the chef that I'm looking for for that island? She says it's a spa town, but I don't see anyone like him in Emberdale.

The chef does not appear in Emberdale until after you complete Faraday island, which is why the reformed monster tipping you off says "But I don't think you can get him yet."

Yeah, and people have every right to not buy what they consider the inferior version of the game.

>the haven has a bar but no inn right now
>it has a church but the fuck doesn't have an adventure log

+5, I think

How does the class system in this compare to sentinels of the starry sky?

Ah, I thought she was just being cheeky.

Not usually because of the level cap but the slime dungeon has a level cap of 20 so you're able to get a lot of easy job exp

So, the way the class system works, you wanna have everyone master a few basic vocations based on what you intend for their roles in the party to be since skills/spells there carry over, but once that's done you just wanna make a beeline for whatever advanced vocations you want them to be and stick with that since nothing carries over there. Did I understand that right?

Maybe it's just because it's been pounded into my head for who knows how many hours, but I really like the boss theme.

...

ow, never played DQ before but orchestral sounds better. Is there a patch or something in cia form for the game?

>max money instead of multiplier

Much more complex

It's nothing great. So far only DQ fanboys are playing it. Other people with taste play SMT4 Apocalypse instead.

Hello piratecuck.

>Ruff has easy leveling when he joins to no one's surprise
>suddenly takes thousands of exp to level up from 3 to 4
>afterwards for the next few levels he requires less than a thousand exp to level up
That was kinda weird

Ruff is a weird kid.

How should I distribute seeds? I normally give them all to the Hero but for once your party members are competent and have nice stats.

I wanna distribute my seed to Maribel.

Best DQ so far (yes, even better than V). Play it.

>Google "Koichi Sugiyama xenophobic"
>Two articles, one is a Kotaku article
>a DQ7 thread complain about the Midi sountrack

Good job faggot

Magic + Wisdom to Maribel, everything else to the Hero is what I've been doing. I'm going with the DQ5 strategy of making my Hero hit like a fucking asstruck.

>Hermit starts talking about how you're living his dream, so don't waste the opportunity
This stuff always gets me.

>the puzzle cave/pedestal rooms were too much for the game
>but the repetitive fetch quests are OK

>get to the Roamers' Camp

fucking keif i swear to fucking god holy shit

Is Sword Dance still the way to go?

>SMTIV
>meh story
>good battle system but shit difficulty curve
>starts off interesting, falls flat midway through
I have no hope for the sequel.

I mean to be fair that other guy was a fag, but seriously Kief you couldn't finish helping us save the world and THEN go bone your hot dancer waifu?

Other guy wanted to hit that ass so bad and Kiefer came in and took it.

Woah it's not like Kiefer stole his girl or anything. If you really think about it it was the almighty that cucked him in the first place. I was only doing my duty to protect the tribe.

Do you think Maribel is horny?

>Teenage girl
>Literally only three guys her age on the whole island
Yes

Gonna grind all my basic vocactions now thx to user about Slime shit. MFW lvl 18 almost 20 too.

Your focused melees are gabo and aira
Focused mage is maribel
Hero and melvin can do either but are more boased to melee

So you can either build to their strengths or seed them the other way and make them oddballs

>not changing Hero to priest and Maribel to martial artist and become Kyril & Alena the second

Get the fuck out of here Keifer. Thanks for nothing fag.

Quad hits is still better but if you can get it i would. I dunno if you can though

It's a bit late for that, Hero's swallowed more seed by now than Maribel ever will.

Do I get to keep Monster Class skills even if i switch out of them?

>Hates Kiefer and doesn't really like Piers
I'm surprised she hasn't raped Auster by now.

Hot

Wait, how the fuck do you access options?!

Would I have to give Aira some seeds for her to become a good Armamentalist?

Menu -> Misc -> Settings

Too busy keeping up her tsun front. The second that crumbles things are gonna get messy.

Chill out bro. Did you even read my heartfelt letter that I sent back in that pile of fucking junk you burdened me with?

Don't even think for a second that YOU helped me out there. I stripped your fucking equipment off before we even left the town you piece of shit.

>that part in space dandy

I love it so much. The music gives me goosebumps.

>Who are you? Can you hear my song?

Help, Tigger and Piglet are wrecking my shit.

The first time? They're supposed to

I've not gotten that far, but I think you're supposed to die.

kek I did the same, just in case.

Do you think replacing the music was some passive aggressive move because they're bitter about giving filthy gaijins a dragon quest game?

The second time. That fucking Dazzle attack

So I maxed out Warrior and Dancer but didn't unlock sword dance. What did I do wrong?

Am I supposed to talk to someone or do something?

It's on Sugiyama if that's the case. Horii is cool.

You shouldn't be taking enough damage there for it to really be that big of a problem. Pack more herbs. Use anyone who's dazzled as a healer or just defend until it goes away if you have to. Kill the tiger first since the pig does fuckall for damage.

It may not be on 3ds anymore

Besides the fact that advanced class skills no longer stick they also changed lots of abilities.
Many got nerfed/buffed and moved around.
I'm pretty sure sword dance is still in the game but it's on a different vocation now.

Would you guys let this thing suck your dick?

>next to the door/exit
>monster spawns right on fucking top of you

No, but I'd let Witches puff-puff me all day long

The way the monsters spawn is pretty stupid. I'd much rather have the random encounters.

...

It's nice to be able to avoid 90% of encounters on the world map though
In dungeons corridors are narrow enough that they might as well be random encounters.

I don't see anything wrong with this

>Every fucking enemy spawns facing the wall and blocks the whole hallway
>If you do manage to slip by them somehow they immediately notice you and start a fight

I only just got with the volcano, but it was hell

What's wrong with it? It's not my favorite boss theme in the series but it's pretty good.

Look forward to the armored scorpions. You ain't seen shit.

>they might as well be random encounters.
they're worse. You can literally walk 2 paces and be hit with another battle in this version.

Can I use a weapon and shield with martial artist?

> name th e maid in the herbtown Cayenne all for one pun

Thanks honeyfag

Oh yeah I know, I've gotten stuck in four battles in a row trying to take two steps. It's like caves in Pokemon Gen 1 all over again.

I would assume monsters on the map works out a bit better in DQ8's dungeons since the corridors are actually wide enough to get around shit in most places, like in the Joker games.

>I would assume monsters on the map works out a bit better in DQ8's dungeons
Yeah I've seen that from someone in these threads that has already played it

And VO! There was no VO in the Jap version

This thread is dying. Pathetic. Dragon Quest babbies are so weak their threads don't even reach 500? This just goes to show the franchise is doomed in the west.

Busy playing

Nigga between university and Dragon Quest do you think I have time for this piece of shit board?

Can I just uninstall my game and continue playing with the undub orchestral version where I left off with my old save?

Quick question.

So I just got done with saving the second town of people turned to stone and got two shards, am I done here? There's the whole thing about that girl not wanting to marry the mayor's daughter but I can't find anything to trigger another story event. Should I leave or is there more after she runs off and the mayor's son goes after her?

Almost every post pertains to the gameplay/story/music, that's impressively high quality for a general.

Yes, but make sure to backup your save file first.

Nah, that's it.
That island is kinda half-baked.

thanks

HOT SOUP REQUIRED

Theres more later in the game.

So is there some sort of video comparing the two? I want to see what this fuss about the orchestra version being looped poorly is before I bother installing the cia

There's not much difference. Only retards make a fuss about something as insignificant as ost.

Damn I thought I would have to chase him down but I went to the dungeon on the island, fought a boss, and got my shards with not a mention of that little sub plot. Weird. Thanks though.

It's only on a few songs and otherwise there's not much of a difference.

I've sent around 5 or 6 monsters to monster meadows but when I talk to the old guy to send some out to find tablets he says there are no monsters here.

I don't understand.

If you do party chat on the world map, Keifer and Maribel will say things along the lines of "I don't think we can do anything else for this land."
There's some closure when you visit in the present.

>just finished Roamer Camp, about to head into Dharma

alright guys

what can i do right now to make sure i don't get my ass handed to me

Actually I found out I'm not done, I guess I need to cure that one guy protecting the girl. Maribel and Kiefer are telling me we need to track down Dill.

The problem is I have no idea where to find Dill, fuck.

buy a FUCKTON of herbs

like so god damn many of them

Also make sure you have at least one edged boomerang. two would be ideal but probably not likely

Because you'll lose your abilities and magic shortly after entering Dharma. Oh and there's two unwinnable boss fights you're meant to lose to

What's the comfiest way to play a 3ds?

>but probably not likely
I dunno, they're not that expensive. I had two before Kiefer even fucks off. And you can probably make some good cash selling Kiefer's shit.

Don't

I purchased the game but i pirated a copy with symphonic music.

What's the plan for fighting those bandits in present-day Abbey? I've been cruising through this game retty smoothly up until now, can't deal with it at the moment.

What does style do? Is it worth it to wear worse armor if it has better style?

Do you want to look like shit?

No, that's why I'm still wearing leather shit instead of scale.

>"the poison hasn't kicked in yet"
>that dramatic pause and music change
Jesus, I actually that some real shit was going down for a second

doesn't do shit in battle but keep your highest style clothing in your bag for later

I thought only Pirate and Hero get Sword Dance in the 3ds version?

Is there a reason to get the 3DS version of 8 if I own the PS2 game but haven't got around to playing it yet?

3DS version has a good amount of new content and supposedly makes the gameplay better by making battles more smooth and quick or something, I forgot what exactly. In exchange it looks much uglier.

>Get back to the town where everyone was turned into animals in the present
>EVERYONE IS ANIMALS AGAIN
>It's just a festival celebrating that time their town was saved from being animals

Dragon Quest is a fucking shit franchise.

I thought the same. I blame the tragic shit that happened in the previous islands.

>have to streetpass other people to share tablets
>nobody else has the game

So is it possible to obtain all the tablets yourself, or am I going to have to wait for a save editor, like with DQ9's online shit.

you need to find the monsters that look like humans first

at least that's how I think it works

Holy shit metal slimes give a lot of xp

You can share tablets with random people over the internet once you get the first few settlers.

You can share them via Wi-Fi too.

Are you enjoy your first Dragon Quest?

No I mean the ones you can send after battle when you have the monster munchies.

Newly composed soundtrack in homage of the Japanese release OST.

can you go to that new town in L'Arca after saving it or is that later game?
Not that it matters since I already moved on to the next place.

>get to Spanish town with the fancy architect
>everyone won't stop talking about the bridge celebration tomorrow
>go to the inn and wake the next morning
>everyone won't stop talking about the bridge celebration tomorrow

Not in the western release though, thankfully. =)

Used for the style contest. Sets get bonuses so keep your old iron shit and such

yea i know, the ranch only has one habitat and I think when you find the human/monsters the rest of the habitats start unlocking

in the old version they give you tablets that reward you with blueprints that unlock shit but the ranch is quite different so I'm not sure if it's the same method of unlocking

Where the fuck is THe 4th Haven npc near faraday castle in present day? I couldn't fucking find them in the town or the castle

town's inn

the real question is where is the guy in the pot

dragonquest7.nintendo.com/quick-start/

heres a nice guide for the first twenty hours of the game

at which point you unlock jobs

its not midi, its synth, but this is only one mystery of the english localization, they also inexplicably removed the item pictures from the game as well, and there doesn't seem to be anything anyone can pull out of their ass to defend that one

Why on earth do you think anyone cares about your incessant whining?

>Tfw I've been selling everything that's not a unique drop
Well at least I can rebuy it all later

>play the game for 20 hours
>realize that item pictures don't show up in the shop
>delete the game instantly

can't believe I thought I was having fun

I remember hearing about DQVII back when it came out on the playstation and hearing about it being extremely slow to start and that it drags in some places, did the remake address any of that? is it worth playing?

>its perfectly acceptable to remove shit for no reason
you can have fun all you want, but don't be a fucking retard

it's still extremely long but they did cut the first puzzle in the game which was about 2-3 hours down to like 30-60mins

>dub apologists

>quick start
>first 20 hours of the game
Jesus. How long is this game?

They're in the game, just not in shops, which means it's probably just a programing or editing issue.

The item pictures are still in the game, in your inventory. They're just not shown in the store for some reason.

about 100-130hours

They cut the intro so it's quicker, so the PS1 version is still better.

>but don't be a fucking retard
I can say the same to you.
Everyone's aware of the problems, but hardly anyone gives a shit because they're actually playing the game.
All you're doing is spamming for attention.

The original was like 80 hours if you knew exactly where to go already. 100+ if you went blind.

They tried to bring the UI in line with other Western DQ releases. It's retarded but that's their reasoning.

You're going to hate me for saying this, but here are my opinions on this song, especially since, despite being so simple and short, it is one of my favorite songs in the entire franchise:

Both are retarded, but the latter is actually closer to the original in mind (but it still does a shit job of it). The orchestral is actually way too over the top for what is meant to be a somber scene with primarily one instrument. It doesn't even have that baller as fuck intro-strumming.

Here's the best of both worlds and what it should be, especially given the context of the scene: youtube.com/watch?v=jWStZ2-8B5U

Is it okay to sell Slime hearts or is there any reason to have many of them?

is it true the orchestra track has shitty looping

no, only proof we have of bad looping is one instance

Probably Manami Matsumae.
Her work on Swords was close to his style, but also mixed it up, and is also pretty good.
Also, she's not an asshole.
youtube.com/watch?v=tLLwfHYnFrU
>tfw sugiyama will never do anything in his shiren, morimori, or ideon styles ever again
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
He could bitch about WW2 and copyright all he wants, those jams were fucking ace as hell.
>that fucking slap bass in Overwhelming power
MY DIIIIIIIICK

The vignette was meant to feel mystic. The orchestral version does exactly that and fits better than both midis.

So what island is everyone on?

>50+ hour JRPG with a OST full of slap bass
user please, my dick can only take so much

I don't think his style is all that different than some of his stuff he did for Ideon though.

Still on the vocation island. This one is long.

Haven grinding for Hero before level 20

Meant to include this link
youtube.com/watch?v=hnbsolj8LSQ

NU THREAD

>Still on the vocation island. This one is long.
lol

This one isn't even at the bump limit yet you dingus.

>ruff
Goddamn that localization change pisses me the fuck off.
Did they fuck Aira's name, too?
I know that Melvin is now SER MERVYN or some horseshit like that.

It's just the DQ fag from /vg/ that's mad that no one comes in his shitty thread there.
And as you can see, he is even trying to make that thread a general.

i think Aira is now Aishe or something

>he doesn't know
Keifer had been dead inside for years since his last adventure.
Why the fuck do you think he was so excited when he saw monsters?

Sounds like you're a philistine with no ear for art. Never reply to me again!

Two towns. Three dungeons. Arena. 5-6 boss battles (two of which are unwinnable)

It's already falling apart.
It powers out completely if you visit later on in the story

>patches
Shit man, these changes are fucking stupid.

Sugiyama has changed that track three times already and the three of them feel pretty different. I guess he has no ear for art either.

That's a lot of excess bullshit.
Also, unless they changed it a whole bunch, Gabo is better off as a Godhand for them sweet ass stat boosts.
Also
>nobody as summoner as their final class
What the fuck are you thinking
Literally the best spellcasting class.

Actually I forgot the guys name so i just made that up.

Well, well... I just told you not to reply to me again, and yet here you are. Now you'll have to pay the price. *casts Triplus Extra WIN WIN WIN (double oomph+buff+insulate) on myself and destroys you with a single attack*

Is Ranger/Armamentalist shit? I love spellblade classes, but I know how it usually goes with hybrid classes. They try to do both but end up underperforming horribly compared to just picking a class that specializes in either.

I just checked my endgame ps1 save file

my team was

hero - godhand
gabo - godhand
melvin - summoner
aira - godhand

it was fingers

But if I don't have Maribel as Sage, who will take care of the healing?!

It's not shit.

How do Ruff's abilities with the wolves work? They always do less damage than a regular attack, and one hurts me too

one of his skills lets him call a wolf to damage a group of enemies and that's a pretty good one.

Is there a way to remove the CIA I have now of the shit version and install the better one while keeping my save?

download jksave manager and back up your save

then import it when you finished installing the new cia

Welcome to the 3DS version.
That shit got taken the fuck out, along with based Nap.

Of course. However, and you'll have to excuse my bluntness here, but I would never help someone who dares post an image from Senran "piece of fucking garbage NIGGERTRASH" Kagura.

Shut up! SHUT THE HELL UP!!!! DON'T help him!

This is why jackasses who defend this shit can suck a cock. Not as bad as alltrades which was permanently fucked just for one fucking stupid pun in one fucking stupid game.

strawpoll.me/11256692

Sorry senpai. Is this better?

>heartfelt letter
>"here's the stuff I had with me"
>"P.S.:Yeah, sorry."

Goddamnit.

>using maribel outside of the times you have to
She can rot in a cave for all I care.

>"P.S.:Yeah, sorry."
Heh

My character sometimes get a stuck and I can't move him until the game unlocks it for me or something. Then after with the first enemy encounter it just plays battle music without transitioning and my character got stuck permanently, had to restart from the beginning. Anybody else experience character getting stuck?

>Maribel equips the Garter.

>Maribel learns bang

Guess they want DQ to stay dead in the west.

Kinda but I have him equipped with a boomerang so it's less than redundant for now

Sic' Em has no damage dropoff, and with a decent weapon it's stronger than any boomerang you'll have at the same part of the game. Only problem is it only hits one group and not everything.

bump limit

>Fishnet stockings
Shame there doesn't seem to be any equipment based costume changes like in DQ8, I guess that's what the classes are for

>the gauntlet

Ok this shit is fucking retarded, everyone's level 16 and they have edged boomerang / chain whip and I'm still getting worn down way too fucking easily.

Doesn't help that dazzle/sleep/awoo never fucking work ever for no good reason other than the game hating me