I'm playing this for the first time, I just beat Fatman and I can't get over how fucking fun this game is.
Relatively mundane environment and premise, but it's like fucking cocaine. When I turn the game off, I want to turn it back on after 5 minutes.
What are some other games that did this for you?
Others that come to mind to me are Red Dead Redemption, Bayonetta, Spelunky, God Hand and RE4.
Gameplay is king I guess.
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I hope you also enjoy long narratives
Codec conversations are fine.
They're fantastic. What are you on about?
>Codec conversations are fine.
they get worse later one. Especially when Roy Cambell (who is an AI that is the bad guy) goes all glitchy and full retard
[GET REAL]
He's done with Fatman, that means the worst part is over.
>that means the worst part is over.
not when this section exists (bot gameplay wise and narrative wise). Or the underwater escort mission
But E.E. shows up after fatman.
Stupid sexy Raiden. I just want to lock his penis in a chastity cage & put him in a dress. Make him my sissy fuck slave maid.
Explaining me to freeze a bomb with a can of febreeze like it was rocket science was way worse to me than both of these parts combined. Actually had no problem with the entirety of Arsenal Gear. It was awesome.
Natural Selection 1. That mod was like crack.
>Especially when Roy Cambell (who is an AI that is the bad guy) goes all glitchy and full retard
This is my favourite part
>You're a real egotistical woman!
>You're so cute I can't bear it!
>GET REAL!
>GET REAL!
>you will never play MGS2 for the first time ever again
This
"There are bombs planted all around set with timers"
>"A timer, huh?"
"Yes. When the timer reaches zero, the bombs will explode."
>"A bomb that explodes after the timer runs down..."
"If we allow that to happen, we'll all be swimming with the fishes."
>"So what do we do?"
"We have to stop them."
>"Stop the timers, huh?"
and this goes on for what feels like hours. Instead, they could've just told you that there are bombs and that you need to freeze them.
Thank god for that. Getting switched to Raiden after finishing that 10/10 first stage that was in the demo was one of the biggest let downs in gaming history. The only media that came out before the release was the demo, 95% of players thought they were going to be playing as Solid Snake.
oh that stillman shit is unbearable. the first time I heard his monologue about how he never really lost his leg, I couldn't stop laughing. just talking in circles for ages.
I will never understand the world's hatred of MGS2 Raiden.
Kojima is a literary great.
That said, when MGSV decided to remove all of that shit I kind of missed it as the game didn't feel like MGS anymore.
Don't get me wrong: I enjoyed shit like Otacon telling me about his motivation to build robots for close to an hour in MGS1 and all. Or Baker telling me about nuclear waste. I have no problem with long monologues and dialogues about plot points and character motivations, BUT: When they spend that much time to convey me a gameplay mechanic that is so fucking simple, it just gets annoying.
This. My first playthrough after switching to Raiden I was hoping & waiting for when I would get to play as Snake again.
I never had anything against Raiden. Though his girlfriend Rose was insufferable. It's like when you have to listen to your girlfriend blab on & on aboit inane shit without any of that sex to make up for it.
except said AI tries to be super serious later on and yet I can't take it seriously due to it going full retard
You start out playing as some badass but then 10% of the way into the game he gets replaced by a whiny bitch while the badass is reduced to being a NPC.
At least MGS4 made improvements to Raiden
How would they get worse just because of that? And thanks for the spoilers bruv.
>except said AI tries to be super serious later on and yet I can't take it seriously due to it going full retard
They're two separate AIs, idiot.
At least guys like you and me can appreciate Raiden for his hot smooth hairless body & tight, delicious boi pussy.
>whiny bitch
He literally whines once in the whole game.
>They're two separate AIs
and yet they use the same avatar.
>How would they get worse just because of that?
The dialogue gets STUPID:
youtube.com
>And thanks for the spoilers bruv.
MGS4 renders all the plot and shit from MGS2 null and void so it's no big loss.
>Though his girlfriend Rose was insufferable
Universally undeniable truth
>and yet they use the same avatar.
Because Raiden provides the avatar part, did you even listen at what Otacon said? Of course not.
>The dialogue gets STUPID:
>AI being infected by a virus
>expect not to go stupid
You must be a real fun at party games.
>MGS4 renders all the plot and shit from MGS2 null and void
Because MGS2 didn't need a sequel, as there was nothing left to explain but the whereabouts of each character. There were no loose ends.
The dialogue is great you filthy pleb. Fourth wall breaking stuff is fantastic. I love glitchy Colonel.
>they all died two hundred years ago
>what the hell...
As if that isn't the biggest sequel tease of all time
>Because Raiden provides the avatar part
How so?
>I love glitchy Colonel.
and then the fanabse expect you to take glitchy Colonel seriously
I actually like going back and listening to their Codec conversations after I found out she's actually a patriot AI. Kinda disturbing that they are using her image and voice to manipulate raiden to such an insane degree. And the innocuous romance stuff is actually pretty ironic and creepy
It may have been, but functionally it was just to emphasize how those patriot names were just another blank. And how their identity (the AI location) is still a secret.
How so?
Literal quote from the game:
>Otacon : I think it means -- you've been talking to an AI.
>Raiden : That's impossible!
>Otacon : The Colonel probably isn't GW per se. GW was most likely
> stimulating cortical activity in the dormant part of your brain
> through signal manipulation of your own nanomachines. The Colonel
> is in part your own creation, cobbled together from expectations
> and experience...
Meaning GW was inside Arsenal, it was corrupted by a virus and then eventually deleted. On Federal Hall, Raiden talks with yet another patriot AI, as suggested by:
>Colonel : Raiden, are you receiving? We're still here.
>Raiden : How's that possible!? The AI was destroyed!
>Colonel : Only GW...
So you HAVE to take the last conversation for serious, it's not a glitchy Colonel, nor an infected AI.
>No MGS4 in that pic
#NotMuhMetalGear
MGS4 isn't a game