What in the FUCK is this?

7 generations in and we're just now getting actual wolf Pokemon.

not a furfag but I'd let it fuck me

It's shit that belongs in your furry containment board so fuck off back to /vp/.

combodog

NEVER EVER. I stopped playing a good while ago, is it confirmed?

>part Rock
More like pure Rock senpai.

Iori from the KOF series

The reason why Rockruff wears his Dark Energy Moon Collar

One of my Sonic OC

obvious furfag bait

support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/202294884-Champion-Update-Schedule

Yorick was just released last patch.

>tfw I stopped playing right around the patch that nerfed Poppy's new E range
Is she good again man? I just saw her new skin and it is tempting me to play again.

WannabeZoroarkButI'llstillfaptotheporn/10

New furbait.
Porn when?

latest pokefucker cock warmer

MOVE OVER, LUCARIO

Looks like edgy FNAF fanart.

*muffled BODIES HIT THE FLOOR*

>More like pure Rock senpai.
Even better!

I meant to say pure Rock

It's a Werewolf (rock type)

Sonics new evil enemy. A combination of Silver, Shadow, Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails.

The newest furbait for pokemon this time around

All pokemon from and after XY are pure shit.

It's pure rock.

Iori Yagami's fursona.

Pssssh... nothin personnel... kid.

*yiffs behind you*
Heh...Too easy.
Awoooooooooo~

>hand furbait Pokemon in a silver platter
>make counterpart quadruped for retards complaining about incoherent evolutions
>counterpart does the furbait's job a lot better

Are you spewing hyperbole for comedic effect?

A quadruped is objectively less furry than a biped. With a haircut no less.

this and vikavolt and doge are the only good sun and moon pokemon.

but fuck that shit why should there even be a new fucking game when literally nothing has been added and the aethestic has gotten even worse? what's the point? there isn't even a gimmick this time like it being cgi or mega evolutions.

1) it's art is shit. it's a very lazy drawing.

2) why is this line a rock type? it's just a dog, i don't see the connection to rocks. usually, rock types are made of rock or, at the very least, look like they're really hard. it's just a fluffy wolf doggo.

you are forgetting that there isn't a single bad ghost design. It has only creeped into mediocre territory twice with Dusknoir and the new Ground/Ghost mon

>All pokemon after gen 2 are shit

fixed

Lucario 2.0, because Lucario wasn't furbait enough.

ghost is and always will be the most aesthetically pleasing type

Iori Yagami's fursona

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it's a werewolf

the moon is a big rock

Except that Lucario has a good typing, good movepool, good abilities, and good mega.

Zoroark and this thing are complete fuck ups that show that GameFreak doesn't know WHY Lucario has been popular since 2003-4.

RockWolf doggo reminds me of Link doggo.

They are both adorable.

the rest of the family aren't werewolves

>why is this line a rock type?
because it rocks

OwO what in the fuck is THIS?

>rock type

this is pissing me off more than it should

>literally nothing has been added

>different story mode with quests and no gyms
>Z-moves
>Alolan forms
>Hyper training
>Battle royale
>Snap minigame
>Grooming
>full 3D with no chibis
>tons of new abilities/moves to shake up the meta

It's the game that XY should have been.

Is that design supposed to be good?

Okay, I actually chuckled.

looks like a digimon

I'm not a furry but I would dress up in a vibrant pink wolf outfit and let anybody fuck me in the ass

>GameFreak doesn't know WHY Lucario has been popular since 2003-4.

Because they shoved it down everyone's throat. It's not that good competitively and its design is fucking dogshit. It's only genuinely popular in furry fandom.

Based on all that they clearly do know what made it popular. That's why they made another one. And ironically it has the same shitty design precepts of edge, furbait and looking fucking nothing like its type.

Zoroark didn't succeed because it was event only and its gimmick was introduced in the same gen as team preview.

You are fucking retarded and don't remember what Digimon look like. Probably by choice.

that's a nice pokemon on the right. is it a sun or moon exclusive?

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lmao brass knuckles

I'm not a furry but I'd let someone drill me while wearing a realistic werewolf costume.

>literally nothing has been added

Please actually look at games you shitpost about before shitposting. It will help you not look like a spastic.

Is your opinion supposed to not be shit?

>that look of exasperation when Midna first lands on his back
Link's face in that game somehow became more expressive when he turned into a dog than when he was an actual human.

That looks awful too.

Its a wolfman, so obviously Moon you dummy.

What's wrong with it?

A cartoonish werewolf.

Lucario would be better without those dumb spikes.
>herro,what type is rucario?
>steer type
>oh but he don't rook rike steer
>put spike on him, no one notice

I pound that fortune cookie, if you know what I mean.

I don't think it works well as furbait. It's too cartoonish, even in comparison to Lucario/Zoroark.

Nigger fuck off, Tyrantrum is great.

>what's wrong with it?
You can't tell? Compare it to a good dinosaur design, like Nidoking

BloodyRoar 4

>haunted sandcastle
>mediocre
u fokkin wot m8

Are you blind? How about the frill for starters

>Nidoking
>A dinosaur

New furry porn character

If you're gonna go full autismo, take it to /vp/.

Why is this thread even up on Cred Forums, FUCK OFF BACK THE /vp/ YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS

Biped = Furfag
Quadruped = Dog fucker

That's why bronies are so much worse than furfags. At least furfags make the squirrels and shit they wanna fuck vaguely human, bronies just want to fuck horses.

My name is Dogte the demon killer and i'm your prom date you ugly sack of shit.

just hide the thread, nigger. you didn't have to take time out of your day to click on a thread with nothing of interest to you in it.

The spikes make him look slightly less like someone's fursona.

Chargabug a cute.

But you can't just call every animalian creature furbait on account of bestiality fags.

On the other hand moonruff is clearly designed to pander to furries. It has no appeal to anyone outside of that.

this fucking faggot

It looked better in the edit where they remove the hair on the top.

Outside of that, might be cool. Not buying into version exclusive due to the naming and how Moon is +12 hours later.

>as a contrarian everything is shit to me!

What's wrong with wanting to fuck horses?

Another edgy Pokemon to attract kids. What's worse is that it has no hopes of becoming a qt edgy Pokemon like Lucario and Zoroark

>87 posts in
>no mention of Yabuki Joe

>Midnight Form Lycanroc provokes its opponents by pressing in hard and inviting their attack. When an opponent falls for this tactic and attacks, Lycanroc counters with its forte: a single devastating blow that finishes off its foe! The stronger its opponent is, the more excited for battle Lycanroc becomes. It doesn’t mind getting hurt if it means victory in battle. Battles thrill it so much that its eyes glow. Contempt rises in this Pokémon for Trainers who give orders it doesn’t agree with or who try to force it to battle. On the other hand, it will feel a deep trust in a Trainer who can truly draw forth its power in battle!

>wild, solitary Pokemon who boldly takes on tougher opponents
>recklessly takes hits in order to launch a cross counter
>Vital Spirit prevents him from falling unconscious during a battle

Literally Yabuki Joe, aka "Rocky" Joe, the Pokemon

A twisted fucking psychopath

Garchomp would be better without the dumb spikes. Gen 1 simplicity > all this other faggotry

This.

Nidoking is a 3 foot tall edgy/NOTHING PERSONNEL rabbit.

That looks literally retarded though. The hammerhead was the most defining part of his design and whoever did that ruined it. He just looks like a confused lizard now.

They gave her some light buffs but she's still pretty shit. The auto reset passive removal was huge and made her super clunky

What do you mean by not buying into version exclusive?

>zoroark never took off
it still hurts

If it turns out sun and moon are actually all that time of day all the time I will fucking flip my shit. I just want it to be a reversed time period.

Oh, but they've been selling the idea of some totem battles being different in sun and moon, with Gumshoos in Sunand Alolan Raticate in Moon, and I don't feel like they'd swap out Alolan Ratticate for Gumshoos or vice versa just because you're playing at real world night time in either versions, which is a concern because Raticate is nocturnal in these entries while Gumshoos is a daywalker.

Fuck, now I'm actually worried. If Moon's all night all the time and sun's all day all the time that would SERIOUSLY bum me out, dood.

Aren't Lucario's paws adorable?

It's an internal sabotage by Gamefreak designers. This shit, plus the offset clock, the inferior legendary, the inferior ultra beast.

They clearly don't want you to buy Moon version.

>That looks literally retarded
Nah, you look literally retarded for trying to defend Garchomp's original design.

They have the Sun version listed as "Midday Form" and the Moon version in OP is something like "Night Form"

Unless they're SPECIFICALLY making them evolve in each version, which would be a first for the series, it should be the usual time of day evolutions.

Nah, they confirmed that Moon is just +12 hours ahead, which is nice for those of us that player later in the evening and always stuck with night.

It's been confirmed for a while as a reversed time period in Moon. Sun just works normally.

>Except for a few scenes, time in Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon is tied to the actual time. Pokémon Sun operates on the same time as your Nintendo 3DS system, but time in the world of Pokémon Moon is shifted by 12 hours.

pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/sept-6-sunmoon-differences/

There's still people shouting about permaday and permanight though, when they are flatout wrong.

Nah, sorry, its design isn't half bad, and is definitely extremely appealing to kids and most teenagers looking for a cool design. It appeals to them in the same way shonen anime character designs do. It doesn't excel competitively, but does well enough to be even more appealing. Zoroark failed because its design is a lot worse, on top of what you mentioned.

This shit is so dumb.

Without the black sclera it just looks stupid. Its coloration also looks more killer whale than shark.
Gen 1 NEVER fucking opted predominantly for white, if anything it would be an off-yellow, just like blastoise and charizard's bellies.

Also its outline wouldn't be so smooth, it would have more musculature.

Whoever designed this is a fool.

And you just look like a genwunner nostalgia fag. Have fun with your puddle of smegma and your two Pokemon that are literally just pokeballs.

Blame GF for having stupid requirements to get one and giving up pushing it immediately afterwards.

Trailer and website say that Rockruff in a given game will ONLY evolve into the form for that game.

Version exclusive evolutions.

Are you the asshole that made this?

Even in the original corocoro, it was said they were "sun/moon limited evolutions". The video this morning confirmed it, they are just version exclusive formes.
youtube.com/watch?v=m8lfI66T5II

Lucario was a champ for AGES. Please keep in mind the fucker's been around for over a decade now. It's only due to Pokemon's ridiculous power creep that those stats are no longer competitively viable.

Fighting and Steel type pokemon have been popular for a really long time, it was no coincidence that a dual type would also strike a note.

so you can't even catch them all any more

Damn. That's a pretty good fursona if I'm gonna be honest.

Let's just hope it's a mistake in the English trailer/website.

Well, that's a first, and also pretty dumb.

I guess the trade game will be strong with those and others like them, which works as breeder, but dumb from a gameplay mechanic to FORCE a version exclusive form like that.

There have been version exclusive Pokemon since the first game retard. They aren't even different Pokemon, just different forms. They fill the same pokedex space.

>genwunner
So basically you have no argument beyond insulting me. Okay.

It was also a pretty shitty pokemon. Hyper frail, crap gimmick, Team Preview fucked it competitively, shit moveset, absurd evolution level for Zorua, etc...

This.

It's exactly the same as version exclusive pokemon.

Quit being a sperg.

>anything that walks on two legs and is an animal
>furrybait

Please, exit out of this thread immediately

>Nah, sorry, its design isn't half bad
It's design is fucking atrocious.

The stupid puffy pants, stupid hook tail, weird rubber rings, pointless spikes, head dildos, giant snout, overly geometric shape and patterns and complete lack of steel features are objectively bad design.

It looks like a Sonic OC gone wrong. It barely even looks like a Pokemon.

Yes it's designed to appeal to teens, but it doesn't do so naturally. It's just forced in every piece of their media, second only to Pikachu, who is at least genuinely cute and likable.
Moondog is forced as well, there was no reason for a dual evo when they're the same exact type and playstyle, and they had a perfectly good conventional evo in sun. It's designed only to appeal to furfags and edgy kids.

It goes into detail about how in Sun, Solgaleo's power causes it to turn into Midday form, and Lunala's turns it into Midnight form in Moon. It isn't an error.

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Nigger you have no argument other than
>muh opinions
>muh nostalgia

Why? Nothing else on there seems to be a mistake.

There's always a line in a generation that's the posterboy for a certain new mechanic (be it forms, gender differences, etc...)

I'm getting Sun, so I won't have a problem with a fucked clock or a world at night when I play.

They are forms with the same pokedex number, and technically the same pokemon. You can also always just trade them, like you've had to since gen 1 for a complete pokedex.

>Expansion is Absorption in the localization
I don't understand.

No, the Japanese corocoro magazine also said it.

Not him but at least gave you something resembling an argument whereas you simply called him retarded. Good job all around, folks.

>le american marketing slogan meme

The original Japanese phrase is "Everybody get Pokemon."
"Catching them all" was never intended game design, it's just a burgerfat catchphrase. It's an optional thing that gives you a small irrelevant prize.

I have an argument, you just can't understand it.
It's called Gen 1 simplicity > other faggotry.

Even by Gen 3 they fucked up and couldn't even make a fucking Seal pokemon correctly when they mastered the craft in Gen 1.

Great, I love delinquent looking Pokemons. I guess it's going to be Moon for me.

All you did was list off things you don't like about it. I don't even have any particular fondness for Lucarion, but why it could appeal is fucking obvious. "It doesn't look like a Pokemon" is not an argument. If so many Pokemon "don't look like Pokemon" anymore, then clearly the design standard has changed.

Lycanroc moon form isn't forced. He got a Corocoro spread with day form because it's a unique evolution, they didn't even put him in the trailer that came out at the same time as the Corocoro issue. He was a feature of one trailer, and his playstyle is obviously different because he has a different ability and learns different moves. We don't know yet if their stats are different or the same.

It's not an argument if you don't explain why it's better. Just saying "it's better" is an opinion, or nostalgia faggotry, like he said.

>It's happened Pokémon has finally hit Shadow the hedgehog level of shit.

Anyone else enjoying the idea of trainer customization and pokemon snap minigame?

Hell the Rotom Dex in general is just a really enjoyable idea.

I'm not even the user who originally criticized it. But thanks for the free (You)s. I got what I wanted.

The game is just hitting the right note in a lot of places, so yes I agree.

All they need to do is nail the post-game and I'm good to go.

>I have an argument
>It's called Gen 1 simplicity > other faggotry.

That is literally your opinion and its not even a very good one. You just heard some other dumb faggot say gen 1 had better designs because they're simpler and you've actually added nothing to the discussion.

You just cherrypick shit you don't like out of newer gens and ignore all the grade A garbage that came out of gen 1.

>Wanting boring wolf over nothing personell
>Wanting rugby lemur over daymio orangutan
shit taste

It's a good design. Nothing about it is out of line. Go make a thread about your butthurt on /vp/.

Not him, but this WILL end up being one of, if not the most r34'd Pokemon of that gen. It's obvious enough as it is. They'd just have to slap a cock and/or a pair of tits on it and that would be well enough for the vast majority of furfags. The character requires close to no anthropomorphication, making it an excellent candidate for furries.
Don't ask me why or how I know that.

See, you claim I'm cherry picking but I've done nothing of the sort. I simply stated that all designs post gen 1 had lost any coherent design direction, discipline in avoiding busy deisgns or linework, and proper color choice properly identifying a pokemon as a given type.

The end result are pokemon that look cobbled together, overwrought, and ultimately not as good as those with the simple hook (ie: Gen 1).

Happy?

I hope the rumor of final starter exclusives is true. The "leaks" all look like "dark" things, a heel wrestler, a siren and a thief.

Let's be honest here, OP. Is this thing really any worse than Lucario? Zoroark? I might even say it's better just because it's relatively simple and to the point.

There are Pokemon designs in every gen to complain about, including gen 7. ESPECIALLY gen 7. And you pick the one that actually looks passable? Embarrassing display.

>I simply stated that all designs post gen 1 had lost any coherent design direction, discipline in avoiding busy deisgns or linework, and proper color choice properly identifying a pokemon as a given type.

You literally didn't say any of that though. You just said "gen 1 good because simple, other gen bad because not"

Next time lead with the actual argument.

My guess would have been that Ultra Beast that looks like blondy. But your statement makes more sense, people like wolves I get it.

>Shitloads of pointless spikes
>Looks like a dark type, not fighting or steel
>Has a weird snout and mouth combo
>Testicles dangling from head
>Shorts

It's not a good design, TBQH.

>Pure Rock
>It's so such it doesn't get unique abilities and it's signature attack is fucking Counter which was only ever good back with Wobbufett generations ago.

Trash for you

I thought it was gonna be Aloha meowth or vulpix for sure.

>ESPECIALLY the new game I must complain about
fixed that for you

Those are just things you don't like about it. None of those things clash with each other.

user, would you honestly look at Lucario and assume its a Steel type, though?

My money was on the Disco pants Mantis personally

The one on the left looks like a goddamned yugioh card

This is where we are people

Nah, I said that straightaway. I just paraphrased it as Gen 1 designs > other faggotry.

shouldn't rock types look rocky?

a wolf is fluffy. fluffy things can't be rocks.

It's a stone Luigi

I
LIKE
THAT
JUMP

I listed bad design decisions.

The puffy pants give its legs an awkward shape. The way they terminate at the belt makes it unclear if it's fur or actual pants. Why the fuck would a dog be wearing pants? And why are its hips so wide? It's shaped like a fucking dick.
The hook tail is completely nonsensical, it neither has basis in nature nor conveys anything about its design. It's just an akward shape for no reason.
The rubber rings are out of place for the same reason.
The head things are supposed to evoke a headband but they look more like tumors.
The spikes are just thrown on there and are completely impractical.
They gave it a dog snout but its mouth is humanoid, at the base of it. So the snout is actualy just a giant nose. Again, awkward.
The overly geometric shape makes it look inorganic, like a toy rather than a living creature.
And again, it doesn't evoke its type, with no thematic justification for it. That's objectively bad design.

How are any of these features good?

It just has no sense of direction, with features scattered about and having awkward placement and shapes for no good reason. They clearly didn't put a lot of thought into the design and just threw it together.

The dark brown things are sharp rocks.

Werewolf weak to Silver
Rock Type weak to Steel Type

Strong Style furbait.

This. Steel types are rugged, manly, resilient looking or mechanical. Fighting pokemon look mighty, skilled, muscular, and trained in a particular fighting style.

The good designs reflect the innate traits of their types via their colors, body shape, and design details.

See: Charizard, a glance tells you he's both fire and flying. Blaziken, one glance and you can tell it's fire and fighting. Those are good designs.

Lucario is a 2 foot tall blue dog with shorts. It looks more like a normal type or dark type than anything else.

It's not like I'm dogpiling on Lucario here, it's just the biggest problem to strike pokemon and it began with Gen 4.

Its got the one rock spike as an emo bang, while the sun doggo has some spikes on his collar.

But I agres they should at least have a 2nd typing. Fighting for edgewolf, i dunno maybe Ground for sundog.

If you're implying that I'm simply bandwagon-hating because it's new or something, let me tell you - that isn't the case. I stood by the last three gens when they were revealed and enjoyed many of their designs (minus some stragglers obviously).

With Sun and Moon, I'm really struggling to find many I like despite loving the way they're finally shaking up the Pokemon formula. It's...an odd feeling.

>all designs post gen 1
this is why I hate genwunners. I hope you take a look at the Kanto pokedex and start eliminating pokemon that don't fit your "good pokemon design" argument.

go ahead and show us your results

btw, your argument is filled with buzzwords with no actual meaning

>it began with Gen 4.
So by looking at Gyarados you'd know right off the bat its a Water/Flying type, right?

Pic relevant.

>ground/ghost type
>can learn fly

>genwunner
Opinion discraded

I'm willing to take the good with the bad. If the price we have to pay for a major shake up like this is crap pokemon designs, I'll take it.

In one fell swoop the leaks have been confirmed. No gyms (or gym substitutes, that's not how the game progresses), no HMs, no Elite 4, no evil team, no plot to destroy the world, full customization, etc...

Good Pokemon design easily reflects it's typing

See the new Ape Pokemon

Bad Pokemon design doesn't

Garbage like Bewear and Lucario who were designed first and had types slapped on to them

>The person spouting furrybait is the only one in this thread talking about furries

why do you have to ruin threads with your degeneracy

So can we not have werewolf based creatures because people want to fuck them? That's idiotic.

Whoops.

Considering it looks like one of these things, yes, I could buy that it's a flying type.

Lucario however has nothing remotely steel about it.

>blue shenlong

Yes without doubt

Oh boy Giratina, I honestly thought this was going to be our first Dark/Steel type.

Turns out it's Dragon (wtf, how?) and Ghost (wut). So the designs are slapdash and the types are just arbitrary. On top of that, old pokemon names were clever and full of meaning (in addition to sounding good).

Lucario isn't a real word, nor is it a clever portmanteau like older pokemon names. Same goes for Giratina. The fuck is a Giratina, a vaginal disease?

It looks like a Chinese dragon. It's a flying type in the same way Charizard is a flying type.

Lucario is a martial artist that mastered aura, similar to Medicham.
The Steel part is a stretch, but I think it has to do with "iron body" that comes from some martial arts training. Lucario's body loosely resembles a tattered gi.

>rock type
why

The only "grown up" people I know that enjoy pokemon designs past gen 3/4 are literally mentally ill, NEET or pure "manchild" (I don't like the wors but it just fits)

It has fins and flippers and it's blue, so it's obviously a water type.

And it looks like a Chinese decoration blown about by the fucking wind (like it's prevo).

>Lucario isn't a real word, nor is it a clever portmanteau like older pokemon names. Same goes for Giratina. The fuck is a Giratina, a vaginal disease?

Apparently, those little dark round things embedded into it's flesh are rocks. And that is apparently enough to dictate it being a rock. That's not a wolf you're looking at, it's a rock.

Absolutely looks like a water type (blue colouring and fish attributes) and some deduction reveals the flying type. Granted, the secondary type could be misinterpreted as dragon.

Its name is Edgedoggo the Smogonbird Killer, has a nice ring to it, dontcha think?

Shorts because it's a fighting type, hook tail to match the pointy design, "rubber rings" to make the color pattern even, head things because Anubis, spikes because fighting type and pointy design, snout because Japanese anthro.

>Garbage like Bewear and Lucario who were designed first and had types slapped on to them

BINGO.

Good design:
Rotom. From the name to its design it accurately displays its concept, a poltergeist fucking around with electronics.

Bad design:
Bewear. It looks like a poorly colored amusement park mascot suit but its name suggests something is wearing said suit.

There's been porn of both forms since the CoroCoro leak last week, where the fuck have you been?

A flying type that can't fly or learn any flying type moves.

Charizard can actually fly and use flying type moves.

Niggas, its obvious they just slapped flying on there because they wanted the Dragonite line to be the only dragon types in gen 1. You can add whatever mythological angle you want on it, but Gyarados as a flying type was poorly thought out and implemented.

No. NO. Stop.

If you hadn't know this beforehand, you would have claimed pure Dragon, Dragon/Water or Dragon/Flying.
Compare it to Dragonair, their design's are similar, why aren't they the same type?

>Charizard can actually fly and use flying type moves.
>what is pokemon red

I'd also like to point out the metallic grey fur and spikes have to do with the steel typing.

But every Pokemon in gen 3 is better designed than the average gen 2 Pokemon.
Ex all the starters

>MUH GEN 1!
>MUH PRACTICAL DESIGNS!
Who cares? If you're so autistic that that decides what Pokemon you actually like or not, that's just sad. If it looks cool to me, why should I care that this ANIME CREATURE wouldn't fit into any real world?

i agree about gyarados and he should be water/dragon but with the levitate ability

but he DOES learn one flying move. you can teach him bounce.

>unironically thinking that XY has worse pokemon than BW

>Lucario is a martial artist that mastered aura, similar to Medicham.

Lucario doesn't look like a martial artist, unlike Mienshao which is a blatant pokemon version of a stereotypical Kung Fu master. Strike One.

>The Steel part is a stretch, but I think it has to do with "iron body" that comes from some martial arts training. Lucario's body loosely resembles a tattered gi.
The steel part being a stretch is a HUGE problem. That should never be the case for any pokemon. It means the design is indistinct and fails to communicate what the fuck you're looking at. Lucario's body looks like a wide hipped blue dog.

Is it the Chun Li pokemon?

Lucario is the Japanese name, unchanged. Same with Giratina. The names you're referring to were English localization.

The closest thing Lucario has to a theme is anubis, so the name is some combination of lupus/lycan, oracle, orichalum, Cairo etc.

Giratina is a portmanteau of girasol and platina (meaning "little silver" in spanish, from which the term platinum is derived). A girasol is a type of opal. The gen 4 remake was tentatively named "Opal," another type of precious gemstone besides diamonds and pearls. The term 'girasol' is often used to refer to a type of opal that is semi-transparent and milky (like diamonds and pearls, respectively), but this is incorrect, much like the tentative game title. Real girasol opals appear reflective and follow a light source, but the glow is actually the result of fluid inclusions, meaning liquid and gas trapped inside. This refers to both how the distortion world reflects the real world in a contained state, and how Giratina is trapped within it in a non-solid form.

Platina obviously refers to the game's actual title, as well as how platinum is used as a catalyst in reduction-oxidation of harsh chemicals, referring to Giratina's change in form. Platinum is also a highly precious substance, like diamonds and pearls, but is a metal rather than a gemstone (Giratina is similarly different from its counterparts, i.e. antimatter). Giratina's name is essentially a combination of opal and platinum and its concept draws on these elements, but the connections are obscure enough that the name just sounds like a name and retains a fitting mystique for a legendary.

Also, Gen 1 was the worst about actually thinking out evolutions. Why is Charmeleon red all of a sudden before going back to orange? Why does Butterfree look more like Venonat?

Why the fuck does Dragonair evolve into Dragonite?

Charizard can learn fly in Gen 1.

Tell me how the names "Lucario" and "Giratina" conveys ANY of this to the young demographic without research.

Lucario
>From the reverse of orichalcum (a mythical metal) or oracle (referring to its supernatural abilities involving aura). May also involve lupaster (a subspecies of the Canis aureus), Cairo, pharaoh, or lykos (Greek for wolf).

Giratina
>Giratina may be a combination of girasol (a type of red opal), guillotine, or girare (Italian for to wander around); and プラチナ purachina (Japanese for platinum).

Considering Giratina is a serpent (dragon) that represents antimatter (ghost), it makes more seems than your garbage typing.
The name is most likely the same as Pikachu, the -tina part of the name is similar to "purachina" with is platinum in japanese. The Gira- part im not sure.

Because the Dratini line were the only dragons in gen 1. Dragon type was special back then. Clearly you're too young to remember this.

lucario is a portmanteu of lupaster (egyptian jackal) and orichalcum
Giratina is derived from Guillotine and Platinum in engrish
stop being such a neg

>Why does Butterfree look more like Venonat?
Butterfree was actually originally supposed to be Venonat's evolution if I recall correctly. Stuff gets changed in the process, for reasons unknown.

>Dragging Dragonair into this

GET THE FUCK OUT

Tropius and Dusclops exist to shit on your example.

It is good, swallow it

He can't on red/blue/green, only in yellow.

jesus, Cred Forums is baiting the fuck out of pokemon fans
now i understand why /vp/ was made

>pokemon looking like much more like digimon every new gen
Is this gen that we will have fusion of humans with pokemon? Will Bill finally fuck things even more?
When we will have full mecha pokemon type? Next gen?

It was an issue fixed in the very same gen, though. Gyarados to date only uses his flying type all of once.

Man, that Tacoman cosplay is pretty bad.

>Platina obviously refers to the game's actual title

>obviously
This is totally relevant to how Giratina came out in Diamond and Pearl years two or three years before.

Holy fuck. "Blinded by nostalgia" isn't a phrase that I use often, and I hate it, but you're going full retard.

Mew
Gyarados
Starmie
Jynx (why the fuck is this thing a Pokemon?)
Mr Mime (this too)

You don't expect me to think you knew their types at a glance, right? Why is it so hard to admit you're wrong?

He uses his flying type every time he avoids ground moves and most hazards.

>fusion of humans with pokemon
Did ya see the anime, user?

Literally my mom's seal

I'm seriously considering making a whole team composed only of alolan qtpies like Mimikyu, Pyukumuku, Cutiefly, dance birb, Wimpod and Lurantis. I just hope none of them evolves into edgy badasses.

Fair enough, but I'm talking as far as actual moves. All the nigga's got is bounce.

It isn't a pokemon though so we're all good

Serpents aren't dragons.
Giratina is a big, fat, worm.

Mind you, the first time we saw Giratina it looked even LESS like a dragon.

We already have a full mecha pokemon. Zygarde.

Cores are actually individual separate entities that build themselves up with non-sentient cells, and can combine together to create a mecha form.

That's not a fusion. It's Synchro, or a different form of the Bond Phenomenon that results in Mega Evolution.

I didn't say anything about the design or the fact that it kinda looks like a werewolf.
I just said that if it is slightly anthropomorphic and has animal traits, it will be used by furfags. You can bet on it even more if it has an edgy design and looks like a canine.
It's a shame though, but such is life.
Yet, there is big bucks to be made from an autistic audience if you're not too squeamish about whoring out your creative skills.

Sure, faggot.

The fighter design is pretty obvious to me simply from the shorts. The steel part is pretty well integrated too but doesn't show well in the game. Maybe you're just retarded.

>That should never be the case for any pokemon. It means the design is indistinct and fails to communicate what the fuck you're looking at
Like how Charizard and Gyarados not being Dragon types, Khangaskan not being Ground type like the rest of the Monster family, and Porygon not being Electric despite being a computer program?

Dragons are giant reptiles. A giant serpent can be very fucking reasonably construed as a dragon.

And you know this because...? Right, because you already know it.
Can't you read what we're talking about? We're talking about Pokemon designs that aren't clearly their type, and which existed before "gen 4" like that user was saying. And don't try to pull the underage/"us true pokefans" card on me, fucker. I guarantee you're one of these teenagers who's trying to fit in with the Pokemon GO fags

You literally said nothing. I'm not shitting on Dragonair, learn to read and control your autism

How is that any different from Rapidash being a horse on fire. That's not a horse you're looking at, it's a fire.

Giratina is a big, fat, wyrm, you mean.

And that looks enough like a dragon to me. If you ignore all the edginess of the design, the basic form is a winged dinosaur with too many legs

Its a male you blind fuck

Also Gen 1 had a habit of going
>don't know how to evolve em so just add one more to em
>dugtrio
>dodrio
>Magneton

>Krabby just becomes a slightly larger crab
>Seel just becomes a slightly larger seal
>Grimer becomes a slightly large button of smegma
>Voltorb just flips upside down

And why the fuck is Alakazam the third evolution of Abra when he looks more like a direct upgrade of Abra than Kadabra. Kadabra loses all those markings and an entire tail to go back to looking like a slightly bigger Abra.

Kadabra and Alakazam should be swapped around.

>shitting on pokemon designs
A reminder to get a load of this and be grateful for what you have

>Serpents aren't dragons
You're right, dragons are serpents, though.
>The word dragon entered the English language in the early 13th century from Old French dragon, which in turn comes from Latin draconem (nominative draco) meaning "huge serpent, dragon", from the Greek word δράkων, drakon (genitive drakontos, δράkοντος) "serpent, giant seafish". The Greek and Latin term referred to any great serpent, not necessarily mythological, and this usage was also current in English up to the 18th century.

Its like they were trying to make Spirited Away a Pokemon game.

>Why does Butterfree look more like Venonat?
that was a mistake
>Also Gen 1 had a habit of going
>implying this doesn't happen in other gens

this looks like a gay version of kabutops with a poorly shaped head and no armor

>remove kadabra tail
>its now alakazam
wtf

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, it just happens more in Gen 1 in particular.

Also you can suck my dick, Vanniluxe is adorable.

You have the argument completely wrong.

I didn't say Pokemon have to immediately and blatantly evoke their type. I said that at the very least, their type should be believable on them.

Gyarados isn't obviously a flying type, but the flying type is reasonable on it as you can make a reasonable connection to Chinese dragons. But even if you know that Lucario is a steel type, you could not make any reasonable connection to it from its design. Same with this moondog and rocks.

You're aware of what Yo-Kai ARE, right? The reason they have designs like these is because they're the spiritual embodiments of daily annoyances. They're nothing more than spirits, so of course they're going to look weird because that's how they are in Japanese folklore. Comparing this to Pokémon is downright asinine.

that looks like a retarded dinosaur. you even went out of the way to remove the shark features.

No, since Hoenn. But I was talking about games as a new gameplay thing
Regular pokemons.

Ok. But that doesn't change the fact that these designs existed since the start.

Why is Mew or Mr Mime psychic type?
What about Jynx's typing?

I like Pokemon

>Yo-Kai
>mixing up game shit and real myths
you're fucking retarded

>Why does Butterfree look more like Venonat

End this meme, the reason they look similar is because of the art style gave both of them the generic compound eyes and bug mandibles in Gen 1. You might as well say Weedle and Diglett are actually supposed to evolve into one another because they have a bulbous noses

>has the word Psy right in his name
>constantly clutching his head
>Pokedex mentions psychokinetic powers
>can use psychic type moves
>neither it nor its evolution have the Psychic type

that would just taste like seawater

The better form

Sundog has reconsidering which game to get again. I like Oranguru too.

>Staryu gets Psychic typing upon evolving, despite both forms having relatively the same abilities and powers
>Psyduck doesn't get them
You have no idea how salty this made me.

you fucking nailed it. I've bought every mainline game and I'll always stick with the series, but gen 1 and 2 really were the best in terms art style and designs. I feel like those first two games had a certain vision for the series that gen 3 onward departed from.

This is one of the worst things I've ever seen

And Golduck is so fucking cool too.

>mixing up game shit and real myths

BASED ON Japanese ghosts, you inbred. The spirits are a base to work with, they're not just straight up ripping off folklore.

I disagree, many later gen Pokemon were very well designed and fulfilled all those criteria. Pokemon in general is rather good with the designs.

psychictype was OP on gen 1 and it didn't needed any more of this type

>Tfw want to call it Coldsteel
>But we have a literal Ice/Steel type right now

GOD TIER
>Gen 1
>Gen 2

GREAT TIER
>Gen 3
>Gen 6

GOOD TIER
>Gen 4
>Gen 7

SHIT TIER
>Gen 5

Ranked by Pokemon designs only.

I know what it's called. It's nostalgia. Don't worry, tons of other people think like that, so you're not alone. Your arguments start to fall apart when other people call you out on it, but you still insist you're right. Trust me, I know it because I act like that sometimes.

Leaving aside the desing change from this generation, I find some recent designs too cartoony for my liking, but when I look back to previous generations, I notice they existed there too, and I wonder why did I ignore these?

Wow
Nice catch

I like a lot of the new mons and I think they have good designs. Also, Weedle looks like shit, and that's something I always thought ever since I picked up Pokemon Red.

>actual reason
Cool

Don't worry about me user, I'm just a lowly bug type.
Please don't hit me with your fire, flying, or rock attacks while I set up with acupressure.

Shoulder pads?

Funny thing is, it's been done lots of times without making them look pants on head retarded.

YW designs are just plain bad.

Gen 2 had some of the worst designs in the series though.

It's like that on the 3D model too, but there's a reason for that, it's not an error or oversight. The ice itself is not part of the pokemon, but it formed around it's body on the cold climate

Ruins an otherwise somewhat nice design

>no problem releasing tons of Pokemon every gen that are just birds or foxes with little distinction
>couldn't just make a normal scorpion Pokemon
>gotta put his arms on his fucking face for no raisen.

Sceptile > Venusaur >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Meganium

>retarded nostalgiafags

Gen 2 wins for Totodile and Scizor alone, my dude.

Gardevoir is better than every single Pokémon from Gen 1. Prove me wrong.

While I agree that Gen 2 has the worst ratio of good designs, Qwilfish is my nigga, leave him alone.

Not him, but while I agree that Nura was an awesome manga, the yokai in there didn't always look serious, there were some wacky ones. Besides, Yokai Watch targets kids and such, who really like wacky and funny things. I liked the designs of the yokai in it, I thought it was cute and fun, which is what they were going for.

>Gen 7 Pokemon revealed.
>Illustration looks like complete shit
>Gameplay video released
>Manages to look a million times better in 3D somehow.

What the fuck is going on this gen?

Fasty the Wolfhog: Original Character Do Not Steal

topkek

>Simple design
>Interesting origin and lore
>Nice stats
>Good movepol
>Fairy as of G6 (which makes sense)
Gardevoir is pretty good.

>butthurt reddditors

>synchro
Fucking hell I'm stupid. I knew the idea was familiar.

>still no REAL bug/dark

>first form's cute
>second form's dope
>third form's an abomination

Delphox was fine in art, the 3d model was trash though

It's something I call "Drapion syndrome"

Why do you still not have a trip?

Just for you senpai
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Sugimori is a shit artist and has been for over a decade. He makes a lot of pokemon look worse than they really are and fails to do them justice. Rhyperior immediately comes to mind.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Acupressure

post em

>frill is bad

help me guys

passimian is making me hard

Great taste.

That's like 50% of the Gen 5 monsters.
>Looks awkward in sprite form
>Looks decent animated and in 3D models.

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>Sugimori
Sugimori's not in charge of pokemon art this time. It's Ohmori now

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Mew is a pink levitating alien with a big head. You could construe that it has psychic powers.
Mr. Mime creates literal barriers with its mind. Which goes with the whole mime motif.

Jynx is not a basis for good Pokemon design.

>Scrafty
>good

I disagree with your opinion but respect your right to express it

Too many children on Cred Forums, I swear. I shouldn't expect everyone to know about Yabuki Joe, but at the same time the Pokemon's design parallels his entire character so completely that anyone remotely familiar with Joe would make the connection.

>liking Swampert

Mew is an embryo in a womb, which ties in with its "original pokemon" thing.

i like MEW's initial design before they turned it into a cutesy pink blob. it actually looked like a psychic alien and you could actually tell that mewtwo was created in lab based off of its DNA

A wolf dog that's an Ultimate Despair?

Sugimori still does the artwork for the pokemon, Ohmori is just the game director, he's not an artist.

Here

forgot pic

>people will defend this

So progressive.

darkstalkers.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Talbain

Ohmori does the art too. He did at least half the new Pokemon.

Pic is his on the left.

I admit the primal stance made me think of Iori Yagami first, but now I see the light.
I kind of wish it was part Fighting, though. I don't think there's a Pokemon of that typing yet.

>has white on it's body
>progressive
Literally eat shit Cred Forumstard

I could have sworn Ohmori was not an artist and just a dev. That said I was also aware that Sugimori just did pokemon art and thought someone else worked on the human characters. That said he definitely wasn't doing it as far back as Gen 4 and the pokemon art for that game was kind of weak despite having very good pokemon overall.

God they really need to do something about Hippowdon's 3D model.

GOD TIER
>Gen 1
>Gen 2

GREAT TIER

GOOD TIER

SHIT TIER
>Gen 3
>Gen 6
>Gen 5
>Gen 4
>Gen 7

Ranked by Pokemon designs only.

Terrakion is the only Rock/Fighting Pokemon so far.

>

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What are those critters at bottom?

Ohmori only did Pokemon designs before, and Sugi did all the artwork. This his first game directing. It was Masuda from gen 3 to 6.

Ohmori and Sugi share Pokemon artwork duty. Ohmori uses much cleaner lines and shading. Pic related.

>Boring doggo over this feisty bastard
Sunfags on suicide watch

zooplankton

zooplankton

I wanna hug Rowlet. I wanna use him as a pillow. I wonder what the Sun evo will be.

There aren't split evos for starters according to the Chinese leak.

But Rockruff is supposed to share a secret with the starters.

Here's hoping their shiny forms be a palette swap of each other and not the retarded green/purple/etc that makes no sense and always looks terrible

Probably just that it's able to sniff out Z crystals in the wild.

It hasn't been elaborated what the secret is.

Homosexuality isn't version exclusive.

no, but I wish I did

Corrected:
S tier
Gen 4
A tier
Gen 5
Gen 6
B tier
Gen 2
Gen 3
C tier
Gen 1

Gem 7 left unranked because it a not even dopne but shows pro!miss with cohesivercohesiver thematic elements

N is [spoiletr] a zoroark though

I want to kiss Mew's paws

A boxing werewolf.

gaybo detected

But she is a girl

It's based on parasites like mosquitoes and ticks, what's not to get

It absorbs blood/energy/whatever, and then expands it body with it

OR WILL THEY

>Gen 4 above anything

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yooooo

The artist already revealed that they're fake.

I know, but I still liked the creeper clown strongman magician seal.

>Dusknoir
>The BIG DICK NIGGA of all ghost types

You have some severe shit taste. Get a trip so I know when i'm talking to someone whose opinions should be disregarded.

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Throw in Dragonite, Shedinja, Blastoise and some waifus like Gardevoir and Delphox and you pretty much have my tastes.

Also MissingNo. will always be my Gen1 nigga.

Only thing I could come up with is a rock star pokemon. Only reasonable explanation for it's typing, other than they could have fucked up gargoyles.

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I STILL HAVE FAITH DAMNIT

I don't. I just think it would have been neat.

the black parts of its fucking body are metal just like mawile you dumb cunts

>trying this hard

Best pokemon next to Mimicyu

>its rock type
uh I haven't played pokemon since gen 5
Wouldn't it have been better as dark/normal or something?

You're insane. It was extremely clear with 110% certainty that those were fakes. Anyone with half a brain should have realized that.

Wishing they weren't fakes isn't the same thing as being convinced that they weren't.

>starts as a dog
>transforms into a werewolf
That's not how lycanthropy works.

>Left: Pokemon Sun
>Right: Pokemon Moon
If only.
Although I'd definitely take Gardevoire-style male-female dimorphism.

It is how anthropy works.

To begin with, they made absolutely zero attempt to mimic Sugimori's style.

Rockruff is a mountain wolf with a little rock collar, which is more prevalent in its evolution's midday form. In its Midnight form, the rocks are on its side, and the tip of its mohawk is stonelike.

Consider, that this form looks more like a rocker.

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>like werewolves
>like this thing's design
>it's fucking rock type with no good secondary typing

FUCK
IT'S NOT FAIR

Rock types are the cruel joke of the Pokemon universe.

After Ice types, anyway.

>like this thing's design
i want furfags off my Cred Forums

>Tfw Rapeclown will never be real

It's such a neat design.

Really, nigger?

>mfw it's gonna be neither poppmaid nor rapeclown
They're both good, which is exactly how I know they're both fake

I know Ballio and friends are fake, but I fucking WISH they were real.

>nothin personnel furkid

That thing looks rabid, it should be part poison.

Dragalge sucks because it evolves at level fucking 800.
I hate the Pokemon that you can't actually use in the game. Shit like Volcarona, who is so cool, but doesn't even evolve until around 60. Even if you use the underleveled one it doesn't learn any decent moves until the higher mid levels.

>Braviary
>Hydreigon
Yeah BW was pretty shit in that department

But I don't think Dragalge was that bad. I remember already having him before the 7th gym

>Dragalge sucks because it evolves at level fucking 800.
nigger it evolves at 48. it's not low, but it's totally acceptable for late game, your team is going to be much higher that that by the end.
Volcarona and Hydreigon, on the other end...

Fucking Gen 5. What's the point of introducing a fuckton of new Pokemon if it takes 5 years to evolve any of them?

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Rapeclown will always be real to me ;_;

Well, at least you still accept your uncle.

Gen 5 is by far my favourite generation, but that was one big flaw it had. So many of the cooler Pokemon were so lategame that they might as well not even exist. Heatmor and Durant only being on victory road was a massive misstep.

But sun doggo is the one that got the most porn

Sugimori doesn't do the art for sun and moon, it's actually Ohmura (not ohmori, the director)

You mean Ohmura, not Ohmori. Yusuke Ohmura is the artist, while Shigeru Ohmori is the director.

Generic deviantart tier furbait

I like it a lot more than regular wolf

>flaw
casual detected
I bet you didn't even have Tyranitar and Dragonite on the same team once

>ctrl+f fur
>39 results

Funny you make a post like that while posting Gengar.

Mienshao and Meloetta are the Zoroarks of waifumons/furbait.

Lycanroc will fail even harder than them

Yeah, clearly it is a flaw since gen 4.

Qwilfish is best gen 2 boxbait

Where's the PORN

If it's canine, furfags will want its knot.

>giant dragon with shadowy wings somehow wasn't dragon/ghost at first glance
Were you retarded?

>old pokemon names were clever and full of meaning (in addition to sounding good).
Yup. Seel.

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no hat = revolution

Sun it is.

tfw no autistic furfag bf

Enjoy your toxoplasmosis

nothing cancerous with things that make me happy

Not that hot desu