Tell me Commander, if your Federation is so good, why are there no good Star Trek video games?

Tell me Commander, if your Federation is so good, why are there no good Star Trek video games?

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Wrong picture, Dukat.

Remove Kira

Where are all the Cardassians in Star Trek games

Why is the only Trek vidya coming out have to be VR? That puts it in the automatic trash pile, no matter how much Geordi wants to get excited for it..

Elite Force was cool. Starfleet Command and Academy was fun. Deep Space Nine Harbinger is surprisingly comfy. But Star Trek is old enough, and has enough lore to facilitate a quality video game if it was its own original thing.

I wish the franchise would be reinvigorated one day and someone decides to do a love letter to the franchise in the form of a game.

Would have been a cool thing to announce for the 50th Anniversary, if anyone still cared. Not even a Google Doodle.

But the slow death of Trek is still better then the death of Cardassia, Dukat.

rpg with singular story would be fine. no need for multiplayer nonsense

Don't worry, we'll get a new videogame from that new series they're making

Gay people, transexuals, it'll be the Mass Effect of its generation

Dukat did nothing wrong.

He was a good Legat. Going to the Detapa COuncil every sunday when the Obsidian Order and Weyoun showed up.

Dukat did a lot wrong

Boning all those Bajorans, for a start

So I just played through Elite Force 1 and 2 as well as DS9 The Fallen. Any Other games worth playing?

>Odo fucked over all his friends for this thing
Also I forget why she looked like that, did they give a reason?

It was never stated in the show but the writers have said that when Odo first turned up on their planet, looking like him was meant to be a sign of solidarity and acceptance. When he turned his back on them they kept it to mock and belittle him, since they have absolutely no issue taking humanoid form like he does.

That's retarded to be honest.

>Oh no leftist agenda in muh star trek

>Killing some dude's wife and stealing his kid not to emotionally hurt him immediately, but to dishonour him years later.
>This motherfucker.

Garak confirmed for best filthy Cardie.

A Final Unity.
25th Anniversary.
Judgement Rites.
Klingon Academy.
Bridge Commander.
Starfleet Command.

I always did wonder this, because they only ever said that he specifically had trouble with faces.

I figured they just got lazy.

elite force one and two and bridge commander is all that series needs

It's just that Odo had set an appearance for his race and now they had to follow it for fear of the audience not understanding why they looked different.

TV show logic.

Sums up the Founders pretty well

At no point are we ever lead to believe that they're a well adjusted species/sea of goo

All it takes is one one game man.

Just one great title to show everyone that it can be done, and it's worthwhile. Just get a team together that loves Trek, and give them a decent budget with creative freedom. That's all we need.

There's literally 50 years of history to build off. All it needs is attention. Someone needs to give a damn.

We should wait first and see how the new show goes. For all we know, it could be worse than Voyager.

Armada 2 Fleet Operations

If you have to announce those sort of details ahead of time you're not just attention whoring, you're completely missing the point of Star Trek's liberalism

There is no show right now, and I still want AAA Trek vidya. If the show is shit, I still want AAA Trek vidya.

The Federation are dirty communist.

Eddison was right

Edison was a faggot too

>you gave away our land to preserve the peace of the Federation of a whole?
>well fuck you we've lived here for maybe a single generation and we're going to put more lives than our own at risk by antagonizing the fascist, militaristic assholes

You know, the only thing you need to do to make a popular star trek game is to let them play as caitians

>Federation wants to asssimilate everyone
>if you don't wanna join that are gonna bully you into joining
>literally doing policy of appeasement with Space Nazis
>have your own Stasi
> many admirals are just greedy assholes

Federation a shit. SHIT

Now the Romulans are noble people

I'm watching Voyager now. It has some bad writing and acting sometimes, but nothing beats that feeling of mystery when they run into something unknown. I wish there was a space game that focuses on those mysteries and dealing with them.

Tell me John, if the farscape project was so great why aren't there any farscape games at all, hmm?

>Romulans are noble people.

Mostly scattered hydrogen atoms but I agree.

Wait, so you're saying the romulans argon?

This was a fantastic series, more people should watch it.

I agree, Voyager is one of the weaker series, but its not as bad as people say (ignoring some real retarted episodes)

DS9 > Voyager > TNG

There is a Farscape game though

>VOY above TNG
The Doctor doesn't carry the show that well

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Please, Harvey, don't make me shout you.

Watching Farscape right now and it just hasn't gripped me like other shows have.
Is it like TNG were the first season is the weakest season?

These films are not canon !

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In my defense I have not watched TNG in ages while I just finished Voyager

But in DS9 and Voyager I appreciated how they looked at the darker side of the trek verse

Yea I would say the first season is the weakest while the others are much stronger 3 being the strongest.

Wait till Harvey appears. Then it's all a grandiose ride that goes on and on.

Agreed, but I would say that the truth of the matter is that each successful in what they want to do.

TNG managed to revive a post TOS Universe where frankly people were more interested in movies, and did it exceptionally. It sold Roddenberry's universe and fit in perfectly with that 90s Rio conference mental attitude.

DS9 was eventually a walking-talking deconstruction of the Federation and the universe in general that greatly humanized pretty much everything it touched: including the fucking ferengi, who were a goddamn joke in TNG.

Voyager tried and generally managed to convey a scenario in which a federation philosophy was exposed to the elements. I think it came the closest to failing in that simply because they were too afraid to keep continuity. Voyager comes through looking and being crewed by basically the same people it started with, but it still manages to convey its message in some very good episodes.

>It's a "I refuse to play that developer's game because I disagree with their political beliefs" episode

youtube.com/watch?v=IeqNPAb4frk

An amazing ending, obviously dont watch if you dont want spoilers

2 and 3 are the good seasons, everything else is okay, but its not why people watched it.

Like the other guy said, when Scorpius starts playing a major role the show stops pulling its punches. Its fucking gold.

I think it becomes garbage about the same time a shrill gingerminge turns up, but that's just me.

You mean like how they announced the racially and nationalistically diverse cast in the original, the black captain in DS9, and the woman captain in Voyager? Not to mention all the episodes that were all "Riker helps a genderless alien fall in love that totally isn't an allegory for coming out (Riker wanted the alien to be played by a dude)" or "Dax reunites with a former lover but they're both women now so let's watch them make out"

Star Trek has always been in-your-face progressivism.

Yea I think the fact that each series is so different makes it difficult to compare

Why my good and dear friend Mister Garibaldi! if Babylon 5 is the last, best hope for mankind why does it not have its own grand Centauri line of entertainment video games hmm?

Even moreso than TNG. There's a pretty clear point near the end of S1 where the writers clearly realize that this really meh "star trek but they don't like each other and they're bad people" concept isn't working, an overarching plot kicks in, and one of the best villains in sci-fi shows up. S2 is great, and S3 is amazing because the writing staff has thrown the book on how to avoid looking really stupid out the window and turned the show into Chrichtons' Wild Ride.

>don't know what will happen if you operate on the alien
>scan it and ask the computer to make a hologram
>operate on that to find the answer

Why not just ask the computer what the solution is? If you trust what the hologram projection is telling you, just cut out using it entirely because it's all guesswork based on scans and computer logic

user you missed the real sucker-punch of the entire first season of TNG.

Every episode is Roddenberry's wet dream of "enlightened humanfolk has dispensed with petty isms and money and anything remotely interesting, now let's talk RAPE GANGS"

But that was his point, he wanted to paint a positive future for humanity, TNG's very basis is Q seeing if humanity has changed, it SHOULD be unbearably preachy, that was the fucking point.

DS9 goes in a very different direction, partly because Star Trek's god died, and partly because if you have nothing but light you can't really see it, so a little shade had to be introduced. You get Federation playing its own little games of intrigue and bullshit, political convenience and wheeling and dealing, and its not necessarily edgy, but more of a realistic look at how the fuck the feds would function and not immediately explode up its own ass. There was some of this in TNG too, but it was much more focused on how the Federation dealt with ITSELF, rather than others.

The people who invented holographic technology should have been contained in a cage made out of the isolinear rods containing all holographic schematics and technology and shot into a sun.

The amount of extremely terrible things that happen in there make them a greater menace than anything else.

Alright, that sounds motivating enough. I'm 5 episodes from the season finale anyway, I was just wondering if the other seasons are more of the same. Thanks guys.

I liked Bridge Commander :3

Sure but nothing you just addressed my point. TNG and DS9 did all of that while also being in-your-face progressiveism. Or at least as much as Rick Berman let them. Saying "by the way, there's probably going to be a gay dude in this series" doesn't go against Trek at all.

I liked starship constructor, which didn't even work properly, and sold about 8 copies.

Bridge commander made me realise that apparently Picard runs literally 99% of the entire ship from the shitty left part of his chair because the alternative of letting your crew do their jobs was pretty much suicide.

Gotta appreciate the love between quark and sisko

Cardies are playable in Armada 3.

I just started watching deep space 9 on netflix

Qwark and Odo are the cutest couple.

>invent technology that has the capability to produce fully sapient entities just by asking it to or leaving it on too long
>somehow incapable of reproducing Dr Soong's work on Data

Forget positronic nets and all that bullshit, you've got Turing Testable intelligence lurking in every VR wankchamber across the Federation

They remain full tsundere right up until the end

In the style of mass effect.
You can take your ship anywhere and explore.
There are ground missions.
Also it's more RPG focused with a much better dialogue system.

I would also like to see a w40k inquisitor game like this.

installed it like a month ago

unfortunately MP is dead

Gotta just love Quark, especially since he's the only Ferengi who actually makes being a Ferengi not a bad thing.

>Out-logics a fucking Vulcan through the rules of acquisition.
>brutally deconstructs Federation as a hopeful but subversive force that strangles the quadrant.
>recognises the way wars can turn good and decent people into goddamn monsters.
>Selfish enough like a good ferengi but also realizes that the Grand Nagus has to be selfish for his entire people.
>Not actually just a greedy mook, but living his life to a specific code he genuinely believes and adheres to.
>Didn't even treat the Bajorans as badly as anyone else during the Cardigan occupation.

>Accidentally invent a super genius autonomous being in holodeck because you were bored and wanted to see if you could make the token android blow a gasket.
>Keep it in a bottle for 4 years.
>Don't actually tell anyone, or do anything.
>Wonder why its upset when its woken up later by "I've fucked everyone in every multiverse" Barkley.
>Still don't fucking help it.
>Nobody thinks about maybe either using or at least examining the profound moral ramifications of this fucking magic machine.
>Just start making bald doctors out of it.

And I mean the structure of mass effect not the bioware faggotry before someone sperges out on me.

I just pretend season 7 mysteriously only has two or three episodes and Sisko gets a headache and goes home immediately after they take Cardassia. I don't even mind Bajors raging boner for religion and wormhole aliums, but turning Dukat into a well-intentioned antagonist into that thing was a fucking disaster.

Don't forget the episode where the Enterprise itself becomes sentient because it felt like it.

>Cardigan occupation
RIP

If they'd just hired Ferengi to handle the negotiations over the Cardassian DMZ the Marquis would have never fucking happened. They'd all be poor as shit but nobody would be dead.

>mfw i realised nurse ratched from coo coo's nest was that bajoran religion fag

>mfw when the jem ar'dar walked through the containment shield on the bridge

DS9 best series, watching TOS right now. You gotta give it a chance

>put the sapient program in his own little holosuite
>holograms left on too long start to degrade
>potentially trap Moriarty in his own little hell with no escape or way of calling for help until some random Ensign checks up on his box

Ethics!

When the wormhole ayy lmaos ruin grand Nagus Inconcievable he doesn't take any shit like Sisko and tells them to set him back. Because a) its fucking wrong and b) the leader of the Ferengi people needs to represent his people.

Its so goddamn good, when everyone else lets these fuckers walk all over them. That time where Sisko decides its a-okay for them to have a pretend renfaire battle between good and evil on the station wearing his own son and first officer reenact that car park fight between Sora and Riku.

Just no, fuck the wormhole aliums, fuck Bajors insane worship of these orb-laying cunts and fuck all of the Kais. Even Obama.

I just love the part where they let the Enterprise's energy baby or whatever go and Tori or somebody is like "Hey what if this thing is really dangerous and it goes out there and wipes out a planet or something?"
And Picard is like "Eh, fuck it."

Isn't there an episode where a guy got dumped in a terrible novel about a casino and probably went batshit insane? Isn't this just as bad as what they did to "I tricked Picard like eight times" Moriarty?

>Star Trek: Discovery is going to be a prequel

Honestly, I would delete Moriarty after the shit he pulled on the Enterprise the second time. Too dangerous, etc.

Yeah, aliums couldn't return him to earth, so they "read" his shitty book about a casino and thought that was what his home planet was like, and recreated it, then left him. He spent something like 40 years watching the same shitty story play out over and over again, before dying in his sleep.

This is why I'm freezing myself in a tube with 200 copies of katawa shoujo and shooting myself into space.

>The aliums just break my legs.

What I don't get is that, when we're supposed to believe the aliens were trying to help and comfort him, they set the criteria for leaving the simulation as finishing the story

Like, what if he had figured it out and against all the odds won the bets and bought the hotel? And then walked out into the black nothingness outside? What was the plan for him then?

Someone would eventually read Picard's logs and ask where he went, then he'd be put on trial for killing him

Where are the toilets on the Enterprise ?

In the bathrooms, alongside the sonic showers

Holograms aren't considered people under law, hence why a bunch of Doctors worked as slave labor and why they had that big trial (that was totally not a rip-off of Data's trial) over the Doctor's holonovel. It was only Picard's morals that said Moriarty was sentient and therefore deserved a chance at some semblance of life.

Hell, Picard wanted to communicate peacefully with the fucking crystalline entity until Dr. Crazybitch shattered it.

Hey, that entity deserved a chance. It's a giant, spaceborne crystal. The chances of it understanding that there are other sentient beings all over the big rocks it eats to survive were pretty slim.

>that day when Cryptic finally updated the Warp system so going over Warp 9 was listed as Transwarp
>now you can never again go Warp 40