Microsoft is now pushing OEMs to sell 'PCs' that are locked to only run Windows 10 to prevent attempts to remove the...

It's fully legal, much like how consoles can prevent you from using CFW.

Linux will grow larger

I love RMS but look at his website, the man's never going to convince more than 1% of people to give all this stuff up:

stallman.org/

In good news, he is looking to
>help webmasters of various sites (not related to me or GNU) make simple but substantial changes in their web sites — for instance, to use the GNU Project's recommended terminology.

No interjections please

Home building is going to become less and less of a thing over the next few years as SOCs take over the industry. Don't be surprised if by the time Windows 7 is EOL if it becomes more expensive to buy discrete components for a gaming PC as single board systems will be the norm.

>Linux will grow larger
t-t-this year will be the year of linux!!!!!!!

no, user, wake up. linux will never be big. at the very best, macOS will become bigger than MS, and that's the closest to the year of linux we'll get.

if only, instead of having 12 gorillion distros developped by 12 gorillion autists, they all focused on just a few distros (or even 10 - which is a big number compared to MS's 3 (7/8/10)), we could have actually decent distros that work. but no, lets split our forces :^)

lol if I wanted a console I'd go buy one

Only about 1/3rd of my steam library is supported on Linux. OSX supports more than that.

I'll also be happy to switch when X doesn't fucking boot to a black screen just because I changed my video card and my xsession stops failing to log in just because I connected a new monitor.

>you only play shovelware?

No I mostly play strategy games, a genre which is already well supported on Linux with same day launches of the big games from the major publishers. Most of what we're missing are the kind of dumbed down games for the drooling masses that Cred Forums usually rails against.

store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=Released_DESC&os=linux&filter=globaltopsellers

>macOS will become bigger than MS

Extremely unlikely, at least as far as gaming goes. Apple has neglected their 3d drivers to the point that even the third party open source driver efforts now provide faster performance and a greater level of feature support.

We can't allow the future of PC gaming to be squashed by phone and console companies. We're going to be a niche market and their indifference is going to lead to if not the death of the PC as we know it another lost decade.

X is going away, Wayland now supports the last big features it needed for game support and SDL has already added support so most games should start to just work as long as you have a modern Linux compatible GPU.

There are actually only three major lineages of distributions now. There's Debian based (Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, etc), Redhat based (Fedora), and Arch with a few more minor distributions like Gentoo and Slackware that are still out there.

As far as PC gaming is concerned there's really only Debian based OSes since Arch will take care of itself.

>windows 7 is 7 years old

>windows 8 is 8 years old

>Windows 98 is almost a century old

>windows 95 is 3 years newer than windows 98

Good thing there are no PC games worth playing that require new hardware

Hell I still have a 770gtx and can more than easily play any good PC game

Windows 10 is some creepy ass shit, I don't know why they are so desperate to force it everywhere

>you can build yourself
Under the supervision and guidance of the designers

>Time for gaming on Linux?

>Gaming
>Linux

Pick one, you're not getting both.

>implying Capcom will port Dead Rising's to Linux
>implying EA will port to Linux
>implying Activision will port to Linux
>implying anyone non-Indie but Epic (due to muh middleware) will port to Linux

They make a lot of money off of selling your entire profile to companies and advertisers

>Windows Millenium is 1016.5 years old

> macOS will become bigger than MS, and that's the closest to the year of linux we'll get.

That happened in 2005 or so. Macs were being bought more than PC. Apple was in the "Year of the Mac/BSD" trend, but they squandered it by continuing to be overpriced pap and never working on getting games to run.

I'd go back to Mac in a heartbeat if Apple opened it up slightly (for upgrading the CPU, RAM, and GPU) and lowered costs + had games.

They're not going to do that since they're a Luxery Car brand for Steve Jobs legacy.

So have companies just said "fuck it" and stopped pretending entirely?

At least one new Capcom game has been confirmed as Linux native, and all of the games from when they were actually good are already playable with emulators.

>implying EA will port to Linux
>implying Activision will port to Linux

Why would you want their games?

>implying anyone non-Indie but Epic (due to muh middleware) will port to Linux
Is 2k indie? What about SquareEnix? Sega? Its not 2001 anymore where Microsoft bought the only big company supporting other OSes and turned them into a Xbox-only shop, a lot of players are on board and several companies now survive on being porting specialists.

Yup

There's nothing wrong with win10 you goddamn pedos

Go away, bill

>tfw playing games on Linux right now

>SqaureEnix
>2K

Why would you want their games?

Shit what kind of porn was it?

>Windows 10 is malware
Go back to Cred Forums. Nobody here cares about your Linux cult.

The new Deus Ex looks pretty good desu.
Gonna have fun playing it without the cancer that is Denuvo.

Oh so NOW you're interested in linux.
That's the way its gonna be.
Pimp daddy Microsoft treats you less than perfect and you come crawling back to us?
NO.
Fucking fair-weather friends.

They've steadily been improving the UWP system to make it better for games.

Actually you can have both gaming and linux. There is a tool called wine that allows linux users to do that.

no, still noone cares about loonix
get back to bed grandpa

and it will make your frames go away

>calling others grandpa
>while using software that's on it's way out

Isn't being a niche market what you guys want? You always whine about how much better games were before they went mainstream, and how devs used to make games because they like games and not because it was a viable career. PC gaming becoming a niche again seems like something you guys would be looking forward to.

windows will never go away no matter what
enjoy your useless open source os

>that are locked to only run Windows 10 to prevent attempts to remove the malware

Oh yeah, it's not like I can enter the BIOS and change a setting.

ok bill

>Make your frames go away
I have yet to see a game that does not perform as well in it's native in environment compared to using wine on Ubluntu.
And I'm not using top-tier hardware.

>windows will never go away no matter what
Just like anything that came before it, right?

How does it feel to serve your corporate overlord?

steam tried popularizing linux but failed
google tried popularizing linux but failed
name ONE company that has the power to overcome microsoft and isn't listed above

you can't

You'd need to play games to find the ones that don't work, and since you're here, well you know.

You can't actually

You need to flash your BIOS to get rid of it on these new devices.

>Stating a fact is serving an overlord
So how are you going to convince the biggest companies in the world to switch every single computer in their company to Linux? Because that's the only way Windows loses its spot as the dominant platform.

>not just using windows XP

protip

Government uses XP. Chances are this will never change.

Someone will have to deal with the poison that is Microsoft sooner or later

Linux is not idiot-friendly enough, that's why there is no mass appeal.

Yeah. And? Is that supposed to be some kind of problem?

You have no idea what flashing a BIOS means, do you?

The companies using XP pay out the ass for special contracts to continue development, MS isn't going to let you have any of it. Also if you're seriously going to use an OS that immediately discounts you from any kind of modern gaming, you might as well go full hog and install Gentoo.

Slowly?

If only the sheeples would see that Linux is just as good as windows.

>inb4 EU lawsuit

>as good
Proove it

I'm just using 7 with updates disabled. It's pretty good

you think they roll out different patches for different companies and government agencies for an OS that's main draw is tons of compatibility?

Windows will eventually become so locked down it will effectively becomes a software-based console. Running Linux with Windows 10 VM and GPU passthrough will probably the closest to "open" we'll be able to get in a few years.

most games not on linux are triple A garbage that were made for consoles

>Home building is going to become less and less of a thing over the next few years as SOCs take over the industry. Don't be surprised if by the time Windows 7 is EOL if it becomes more expensive to buy discrete components for a gaming PC as single board systems will be the norm.
I have no idea what you're talking about

Planning on building my first PC this new holiday sales season. Am I fucked or something?

Sadly true. You can't install anything worthwhile without getting your hands dirty in the terminal.
If they could fix this Linux would be a viable competitor in the market.

I haven't used Ubuntu in years, what DE is that?

...

Looks like Unity with a theme

typing sudo apt install [program] isn't really getting your hands dirty if you'd ask me.
But if that's really to hard for you, they're working on it with Snap Packages and Flatpak.

Prove how or in what ways?
OS's are complex machinations of tons of software and have many different facets.

>muh gaems muh privacy!

I bet you never signed up for YT or any social media ever and you don't have a phone.

Face it, your shit generation never had a grain of privacy and the second you first used Google you joined the club. There is no undoing it either. So stop being fucking Luddites.

>you can either give away all your privacy or go live in the mountains, there's literally no in between

No.

1. It's easier for them to support one Windows version instead of several.
2. Their enterprise customers are vastly more important to them than their consumer customers. The latter act as unwilling guinea pigs for the former, via forced Updates. Any consumer who doesn't like it will have to deal with it.

I do indeed. And again I ask, is that supposed to be some kind of problem?

I am talking from from a normal user's perspective.
Typing cd /pathtoitem/ would be considered high-level magic for them.

If you build your own this isn't a problem. Non story.

>still no answer
>people still think linux will magically dominate the industry

Windows xp all over again. I'm not upgrading to 10 ever, that dog turd of an operating system can shove it. I used it for 2 months and felt like I was using a tablet.

Modded Unity.

So what are the actual problems with Windows 10? I don't want to hear any imaginary bullshit about botnets or Microsoft employees looking through every single file on every single hard drive connected to a Windows 10 machine. No conspiracy theories, actual, tangible problems.

Well, better than straight up gnome.

It's a bit misleading.

Apparently on boot the UEFI sets the SATA controller to some kind of unusual RAID mode which is unsupported by the Linux kernel and inadvertently prevents the kernel from booting. With other systems this mode probably wouldn't have been enabled to begin with and if it was you would have been able to change the mode to something else to workaround the issue but here the option to change the mode was removed.

>install Ubuntu
>open firefox to watch a youtube video
>can't watch videos in over 480p

>download chromium
>1080p now works, but not in fullscreen
>change graphics driver to proprietary
>later down the line install an update
>display manager is ded because you're supposed to change the driver back before updating and I would have known that if I had read the million pages of update notes

>can't be arsed to try and fix lightdm, install Debian
>tells me at the start it saved me from the evil proprietary driver for my internet card
>can't even fucking dowload it from the internet because I don't have a fucking internet connection

This kind of shit is why I'm not switching to linux anytime soon. Also, nogaems.

You can upgrade ram and gpus. Only thing you cant is cpu but youre running xenons so why would you

Linux will NEVER be the platform for PC gaming.

Screencap this post.

>I bet you never signed up for YT or any social media ever and you don't have a phone.

This is accurate. I also only have email accounts that only ask for my username and password.

I like how 7cucks still can't come to terms with the fact that Windows 7 is on the same level as Vista now, both are no longer commercially supported and no one is obligated to release software for it aside from security updates. I respect people that se Linux more than the people desperately clinging to a dead OS like 7.

If you buy a laptop you are a cuck.

You need a hardware programmer you need to physically connect to the chip that holds the BIOS to flash your customized BIOS.

>imaginary

When TV shows have kids opening Command Prompt and hammering on a keyboard and calling that "hacking" then yea Linux is fucking doomed.

Problem with Linux isn't when things go right, it's when something goes wrong. Finding community support for your specific distro and version can be mind numbing and even if you're computer literate you can fuck up your install.

Just shows how windows users are the most casual in the pc realm. Inb4 osx that shit is at least unix certified and isnt limited to 4gb like ntfs

>update VLC
>can't use my wireless anymore
Beautiful

Holy shit, how long ago have you tried Ubuntu?
Over 99% of the problems you just described have been fixed, integrated, and now work beautifully. You might want to take a second look at it.

why do people living in fantasy worlds where the actions of a company somehow make any difference at all

certainly the 'herd' has some pull, things like cell phones and laptops exist, and lots of people use them

but we are hobbyists, we will always have our own tools, or create our own tools to subvert a company like microsoft's "planned obsolescence" of already functioning software

Where are antimonopolists? This smells like monopoly

>g-guys it works now!
That's what they say every year
Still a broken piece of shit

Sometime within the last year. And I'm 100% sure that in place of those problems came a fuckton of others so for now I'll stick to running a VM if I ever need something from linux again.

Hopefully snaps will help bring some unity to the world of Linux.

>Tell me what's wrong, but don't say what's wrong.

Unsupported doesn't mean incompatible.

You gigantic fucking retard.

or doujin games.

Yeah, someone noted in the comments that you technically can't even install other versions of Windows 10 on the computer without downloading the special drivers beforehand, since it's not natively supported in Windows, much less Linux. I could see this being an issue down the line if the recovery image partition ever got corrupted or something, if you can't use the OEM version of Windows for whatever reason it would be difficult to install a retail version over it.

Because they just make it slightly more inconvenient one step at a time. Can't wait to see people getting sued for tinkering with their hardware.

>I bet you never signed up for YT or any social media ever and you don't have a phone.
Right on all counts.

There is actual datamining, which worries some people, and understandably so.

When I first downloaded 10, my computer was running slower, but it's better now. Still, it does feel kinda sluggish.

10 sometimes just refuses to boot sometimes, so I have to hold in the power button. Very annoying, but I suppose it's fixable.

Honestly, my biggest gripe with 10 is the Start menu. It's needlessly cluttered and a pain in the ass to search through.

Just keep sucking from that corporate teet.

Those run on wine mostly.

So just like Windows then?

not an argument

It's actually impossible to install any OS other than the OEM copy of Windows 10, because you need the special Intel drivers to see the hard drive. By default it's set to a special snowflake RAID format which is impossible to read. Ostensibly this is a pretty good way to secure the device, since you can't load any other OS's on the device, but it should have been optional.

>run Xububtu 14.04
>get a message that says "Upgrade to 15.01 is available!"
>click Upgrade button
>nothing at all happens ever
>it does this shit every time I boot it

Thanks. Switched to windows.

>Linux is fully capable of playing games
lmao, enjoy your wine or other half-assed solutions

>It's actually impossible to install any OS other than the OEM copy of Windows 10

He means the version of windows 10 that was "assembled" by Lenovo, not just any old OEM version of Windows 10. For some reason Lenovo made the decision to make this laptop not work with 99% of OSes and removed the option to allow them to work.

I find that hard to believe.
I have been with Ubuntu since 14.04 "Trusty" back in 2013 and have never have any of those problems.

15.01?
That doesn't exist user...

user, I'm running games natively right now.

I'm not at my machine otherwise I'd post a screens hot. No joke it says 15.01 on the upgrade screen.

I'll talk strictly about practical problems. The UI is a bit retarded, the Anniversary update improved it a little bit but it still has two control panels which is mind-boggling. Two menus to uninstall things as well, one for programs and one for apps. Most of people's problems are with the app store which is improving but still isn't there yet. There are some issues with compatibility like every new OS. Compatibility mode goes back to Vista, some XP games run and some don't. I'm thinking about getting an XP VM for older games. Another minor issue is the malware software is a bit overzealous, it's deleted a few programs that I didn't want it to. You can turn it off for a specific folder but it's annoying having to extract files twice.

The biggest issue is forced updating, which thankfully after the anniversary update they've chilled out a bit. It's not as big of a deal for home computers, but for laptops and portable desktops it's extremely annoying. I bring my computer to gaming parties often and the updates are very annoying. You can turn them off though if you're doing something 24/7 like mining, but you have to jump through some hoops.

Performance is generally good, blue screens, I like overclocking and even after 9000 blue screens and crashes it's still running fine and I haven't lost any data. Syncing user settings across different computers is a neat feature.

>imaginary bullshit about botnet
They are not by any stretch imaginary, you can't turn off telemetry and even if you do through various programs or registry it's still sending something to microsoft constantly. It's not botnet when without WLAN and disconnected from LAN.

Why are you trying to install fucking 14.04 anyway? The latest version is 16.04 with 16.10 coming out next month.

I'm not an expert at Linux but I've read that unless you're using a rolling release like Arch you should never upgrade, but reinstall.

Do you mean 15.10 Wily?
Otherwise I would delete that installation.

I'm very happy for you.