So, did or didn't she know that Joel was lying to her?

So, did or didn't she know that Joel was lying to her?

Explain this shit to me, I couldn't bear the awful gameplay to get the story.

She didn't know.

Elly could potentially have the cure to the zomby shit in her, but she would need to be killed to find it out, which she was okay with. Joel breaks into the place just before they cut her open and kills everyone. Afterwards she awakes in his car and asks what happened and he tells her that they cancelled the operation because they knew it wouldn't work. In the end she asks him if that is really true and he lies again and she gives him this look, then the credits roll.

She believed what she wanted to. This is a test to see where you fall on the spectrum and you won't like the results.

I'd rather have the loli than the cure too. Solid choice.

the game is acclaimed for having a good story but it's all just oscar bait cringe

Yes she knew he lied, but they make up afterwards.

I think the point is that you're supposed to decide that yourself.

The sad part about this is that what the Firefiies tell Joel about her and their plan makes no sense biologically.

Ellie's symbiont wasn't transforming her not because she had an immunity (she didn't) but because it was a mutant that was inert.

In other words, nothing that could be used to develop a vaccine in either Ellie or the symbiont.

I got mad at this point because it felt like the writers had painted themselves into a corner and said "well our players never finished high school, they won't notice this."

Too bad she likes pussy and not dick.

Of course she knew Joel was lying

Joel couldn't go through losing someone that close to him again and he literally chose to doom the world instead.

I want to have sex with her

She had doubts, but she didn't push him for the truth because she's a little girl and she doesn't want to die in a lab

He should have killed himself if he couldn't handle the grief again. Dooming the world for his not daughter baka

He didn't really doom the world, humans might have been fucked either way. There was hints that gutting her wouldn't work anyway.

I think it's a bit of a cop-out and makes Joel seem like less of a villain, but really either way he did save her for his own sake, that's clear.

This part really pissed me off, they give you meaningless choices like killing/leaving some random guy at the start with a broken mask.

But the actual big choice Joel makes, you have no control over. And it's a fucking stupid choice since the majority of people thought they should kill her at a chance of a cure or vaccine.

She'd change her mind when her instincts take over as her body starts to do what nature intended it to do

>What is adolescent experimentation

What you tell yourself when you remember your sleepovers cakeboy

t. virgins in denial that ellie will never want to fuck them

She did but she wants the D.

Jokes on you. I'm a female and would totally lez out with her.

Too bad for her XD

I couldn't get into it because of the father/daughter relationship.

Would you trust a bunch of beggars running a shitty hospital just because they said they knew what they're doing? Besides, society can be rebuilt without a cure.

Solid choice Joel.

Well if I was Joel Ellie would be my personal cum slut the moment we met.

Change the not-zombies to niggers with rabies and the "hospital" at the end to a Brazilian slum "hospital" and then decide if you would let them search a cure for the rabies by killing your daughter.

Really? Most people wanted Ellie to live, same as Joel. And realistically, like it hasn't been discussing a billion times, what would the Fireflies in their beaten to fuck state do with the cure on the off-chance they made it?

The virus has already done its damage on civilization, the dangers of the cloud spore is limited to enclosed areas and even gas masks nullifies all possible threat of infection. The main issue are the amount of clickers, runners, and bloaters running around but even they eventually expire and turn into spore cadavers. The amount of new infected is low as fuck when you consider you need to get bitten AND survive. Most people just shoot themselves in the head before that happens and the military does routine checks already. Civilization is already returning with shit like tommy's settlement and the main danger of the world are retard bandits or cannibals. In 30 years, the world will be empty of most infected because they'll have died off and decomposed into spore makers, humanity then will have a chance to move forward.

If they could figure out a way to infect themselves with the same strain as Ellie they would be immune like her too.

Also

>thinking science is as black and white as the simplified version taught in high school

Hilarious that people who don't even have university education look down on others.

I dont even like the game, but it right not to let you choose imo.
Joel isnt really a self-insert, killing her would be too much against his character thats established in all cutscenes that you cant influence.

A much bigger joke is that the gov who still more or less controlls the country just abandons all hope to cure the virus.
It would be the most basic human nature to try all kinds of random shit to cure already infected people or look for a vaccine. We would never just ignore the by far biggest problem in human history if theres the tiniest sliver of hope - even if its just for the publics morale.

The Fireflies had already murdered other immune people and hadn't found a cure yet.

It's been a long time since I played this, but don't things hint at this and it just goes to show how desperate they are.

>doom the world

Nigger the whole message of the game is that the world is probably better off without the humans.

The government at this point might primarily be just remnants of the military. They've got their hands full just trying to feed the people in the quarantine zones and not get fucking murdered by crazy freedom fighters that have no idea about what the long-term effects of what they're doing are

And? They cant gather a bunch of scientists and give them infected to experiment with?

They don't even have the resources to keep everyone properly fed. Getting that under control is gonna take precedence over everything else

...

She knew. I thought this was obvious? The tone of her voice was very telling.

They would not have been able to make a CURE anyways. They were talking about a vaccine which isn't going to help people that contract it in the first place. Even besides this the fireflies were almost fucking dead. They were working a on skeleton crew compared to what they once were. Even if they did make something what were they going to do then? They don't have the man power or transportation to get it out to the whole public. Also a lot of the roads are fucked or overrun with bandits and/or infected anyways. It was a pipe dream in the end.

yeah, they already tried it on other people who were immune and it didn't work

>hey guys I finished high school this year and entered university

cure to that fucking fungi stuff wouldnt de fuck up the world so joel did the right thing imo also fireflies are shady as fuck

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they really were.
black lady wanted ellie at the end less because of the good of the world and more because she wanted to stop being treated like shit.

i thought the game was okay, but i liked it more for the area's and less for the actual game.

exploring all the abandoned places was pretty cool.

it had a nice start.
initial outbreaks are always great.

She knew he was lying, but she trusted his judgement enough not to call him out on it.

That the Fireflies showed themselves totally incompetent in everything they did probably helped that.

dunno how to feel about this game.
anytime i have to deal with other people, i start losing interest

World is fucked.
It's full of infected and Fireflies couldn't do shit even with a vaccine.
No facilities to mass produce that shit.
No infrastructure and manpower to distribute it to enough people so it would actually matter.
It might be used as a way to rule people and overthrow the government (join us we have cure).
The cure also only fixes small subset of causes of death (if you inhale spores and if you happen to survive an attack but get bitten anyway)
Doesn't do shit against the large swarms of infected everywhere that would just tear you to pieces even if you were immune.
Shit helps only marginally.

He didn't care about saving the world, he just needed to save HIS world

I dont know if you can speak on behalf of the majority, like another user said, there were others and disecting them came up fruitless. Not to be a contrarian, but i think joel's decision would not have made a huge impact, there could be more.

I don't think Ellie was made aware that she was going to die. If she did, then she would have known Joel was for sure lying. But I think wanting to believe Joel had her best interests in mind makes her want to believe him. And I think she would want to live.

After a live performance of some of the most pivotal scenes, creator Neil Druckmann released an epilogue to the epilogue, taking place a few weeks[7] after the end of the game. The One Night Live epilogue is quoted by Druckmann as a way of “saying goodbye” to Joel and Ellie."[8]

After spending a few week so at Tommy's and having been accepted by the community, Joel finishes his work for the day and searches for Ellie. He finds her listening to her Walkman in her room, writing something at her desk. He knocks on the door, calling Ellie's name but she can't hear him. After a few attempts he enters the room to tap her shoulder, startling her.

Ellie stands up and waves him off, pulling off her headphones as Joel claims he "didn't mean to scare [her]". After a pause, he asks "What's up?" There is some tension in the air—Ellie possibly resenting Joel for having lied to her, though whether she knows for sure is unknown.

Joel starts off slowly, saying that they haven't talked for a little while and he wanted to check in on her. He tells her that some kids found some water guns and were playing with them outside that day. He had hoped to have seen Ellie out there playing too. Ellie quickly responds by telling him that she's more needed repairing the outer wall with Maria and that she doesn't have time for that. Sitting down on the corner of the bed, Joel tells her that everyone has been really impressed with Ellie but that it's okay to take a break from work every once in a while. Joel realizes he isn't getting anywhere, and decides to change the subject.

He talks about how Tommy has made him a town guard and that things have "calmed down out there somewhat." Tommy apparently has paired Joel up with a woman named Esther, with Joel confessing that he thinks Tommy wants to see them "hitched", remarking she has a "great sense of humor" and that she told him a joke.

While Joel starts mumbling to himself, trying to remember the joke, Ellie interrupts. She mentions that it is late and that she needs to get going with the additional repairs needed for the outer wall. Joel is a bit deflated, but quickly recovers, leaving and quickly returning with a guitar in hand.

"What's that supposed to be?" Ellie says, somewhat sarcastically.

"Well I done hear that some people call this a gui-tar." Joel says, really pouring on his Texan accent, getting a quiet chuckle out of Ellie.

"I know that," Ellie says and asks him again what it is for. Joel sits down on Ellie's bed and confesses that he has been working on a song for some time, though "started working on it sometime ago", hinting that he may have originally begun writing it for Sarah. Ellie sits in her swivel chair, drawing up one of her legs to her chest as Joel begins to play and sing select verses from Future Days by Pearl Jam.

The musical performance is tender as Joel sings about the pain that they've gone through and how much it means to him that they still have each other — "you and I." As Joel performs, Ellie silently sheds a few tears, wiping them away slowly. As the guitar and Joel fall silent, an emotional Ellie quietly responds "That was beautiful, Joel." The tension and distance between Joel and Ellie is gone now, replaced with genuine fatherly-daughterly love.

Joel thanks Ellie, stands and offers the guitar to her. Even though she says that she doesn't know how to play, Joel reminds her of his promise to "teach [her] how to play the guitar" gifting it to her.

Ellie, touched that Joel remembered, reaches out and takes it saying, "You did." A warm silence falls and Joel begins to excuse himself. "It's getting late and we both need our rest." Joel heads for the door as Ellie falls back into her swivel chair.

"What was the joke you heard the other day?" Ellie says, breaking the silence and bringing Joel to a full stop before exiting through the door.

Joel turns around, and with a soft smile on his face asks, "What's the hardest part about eating clocks?" Ellie shakes her head and puts up her hands, giving up.

Joel smirks and says, "It's time consuming."

They both share a little laugh. "That is pretty bad," a smiling Ellie responds. "Yeah, it's one of the worst I've heard," says Joel. "Well, goodnight, Ellie." Joel walks out the door, a little slow to remove his hand from the door frame, leaving Ellie to play the guitar a bit.

Did you mean to reply to me with this? I don't get it.