Warcraft Legion Suramar Edition

Diamond King is Magni.
The five keys are the objects of power being brought to Dalaran.

Jaina left Dalaran in protest. She's not going to be any "old god" bullshit nonsense. She'll be the one to save everyone with a "told you so" when Khadgar opens a portal to the twisting nether.

>distract myself for a second
>demon passes by
>90++ fucking elves jump at me in 2 seconds
>I MANAGE TO KILL THEM ALL WITH THE SHEER FORCE OF MY ANGER ALONE
FUCK SURAMAR, FUCK THAT CITY AND FUCK THESE PANSY ELVES

>need 825 to do RF
fug, I'm only 798 right now. Haven't really played too much since hitting 110.

wow sucks time to watch mario retardy with your bros

So are warlocks bad or not? I can actually pull off decent numbers as demo if I can stand still for a little bit, but fuck man every boss has a "move the fuck out of the way" mechanic. Being a spellcaster is painful right now if you don't have any decent instant cast spells.

>quest to free all the mind-controlled animals in the Suramar zoo
>have to stand real close
>they all attack me right away
What the fuck is this?

>yfw no corrupted Ysera porn

I got 2 monitors, thanks for the retardy stream

Cred Forums tell us about how your first EN went.
>it's the new trial raiders episode
>same people kill the whole raid constantly with X boss mechanic

They will probably never join us again though.

Jaina might get corrupted because she is probably out in the sea to find Kul tiras after she got triggered by Khadgar. Will probably hear the whispers of N'zoth and become some kind of double agent like the bishop in stormwind was.

>tfw the Pillars of Creations actual purpose is to open N'zoths prison

FUCK

>he's only 825
Look, i'm not one of these retards that weeks ago thought they were hot shit because they were facerolling mythics literally one week after the expansion came live so that they were 840 before pretty much anyone else, but you can reach 845 by literally doing nothing but questing in suramar for your class set upgrades and world quests, that now even award unlocked titanforged gear that scales up to 880.
You have literally no excuse, it takes literally nothing to gear yourself even a bit.
t. idiot who did nothing but farm world quests rather poorly for one week only and he's sitting at 841.
I haven't seen a single mythic yet.

Satire.

daily reminder that the faceless one in violet hold says something about Nzoth
Daily reminder that blizzard has "casually forgotten to mention what Nzoth was up to" when asked in interviews, and the chronicle

Ahahahahahhahahaha

h-haha t-these s-shitty frost d-dks
r-right?
g-guyse?
w-who plays f-frost dk n-nowadays?

Will Khadgar ever do anything right? Will he need apexis crystals to fix it?

>mfw Patch 7.x hits
>mfw scenario to take Suramar City for the Kirin'Tor/Alliance/Horde/Nightfallen
>mfw scorched earth on the whore
>mfw "What's not quite right now, you fuck?!"

>literally no excuse
>Haven't really played too much since hitting 110
Seems like a good excuse to me, senpai. I haven't had a lot of time to play either, I can only play on weekends now that I'm back at college

>free the animals, hero!
>they attack you the second they are free

This is actually what happens when PETA frees tigers and lions from zoos.

...

That's a shitty excuse then, you can still reach a bretty gud ilvl by doing nothing but casual playing.
The amount of casualness wow has reached with Legion is staggering, i wouldn't be surprised if you could drop fucking titanforged gear in heroics as well.
Oh wait, you can already! :^)

HOLY SHIT SO IT ISN'T AZEROTH SPEAKING TO MAGNI, BUT N'ZOTH TRICKING HIM INTO THINKING HE IS. FUCK

Can you hear me, friend?

>spend hours trying to get all the rares and treasures in the court of stars part of the city
>sweat my ass off as there are demons who can instaspot your disguise and fucking 10mln++ elites pretty much everywhere
>die 30 times out of nothing
>manage to did it, pretty butthurt about the whole experience
>do that questline, the end quest is you going there with your dino bro and wreck shit back and forth, literally oneshotting 40mln bosses
I never had so much satisfaction and fun in a single fucking wow quest ever.
Thank you blizzard.

>have to get over there
>slow ass patrol elf walking by
>he stops
>"I can make that shit if I pop Sprint"
>"AN ILLUSION!? WHAT ARE--"
>*poof*
>more elves up my ass than a porn at Santa's workshop

No, fuck YOU

>Khadgar has a quest for me
>"Hey I think there's demons in the city, but I wrongly accused some woman and it was embarrassing. Take this list of names I've written down at rando- ...which I've thoroughly researched and kill them"
>kill ten innocent people
>not a single one of them turn into a demon or use fel powers
>go back to Khadgar
>"Well, when you kill that many you can be pretty sure at least one of them was a demon. Well done, have this"
>get floating Khadgar head inside magic 8-ball

>Oh I have barely played since hitting cap
>shitty excuse!

Kinda hard to do quests and shit when I'm not logged on. I'm not saying it is going to be hard to gear up, just that I'm behind.

>king of diamonds is a stripclub chain

>we wuz sophisticated elves and sheeit

Crackheads.

>good dragon

pop sprint? Why not mount up?

ROGUES MAY BE UTTER SHIT NOW BUT AT LEAST THEY STILL HAVE VANISH
SUCK ITTTTT

QUICK, Cred Forums!
ONE OF YOUR WITHERED IS RUNNING AWAY!
REPLY TO THIS POST TO CATCH HIM BEFORE HE IS LOST IN THE TUNNELS!

I wonder when it'll turn out that Khadgar was secretly working for the Legion all along

only outlaws know this feel

I ignore his dumb ass because I don't need to bother babysitting every withered now I can just get to 400 and leave.

When I heard his voice I was convinced he was gonna be a major character, then he goes hollow at the end of Aszuna :(
If I'm wrong, pls no spoilers tho

>three withered running away at the same time
>while fighting boss
>each in a different direction

for
fucks
sake

Sounds like someone didnt get all the upgrades
>can now easily breeze though because i looted all chests

Nzoth has already corrupted Azeroth

Azeroth

Nzeroth

Nzoth

They can still run away tho, even if it is ungodly rare.

>Nzoth
>Nosgoth

and then Kain was deified.

did you open all the chests and got all the rewards?

and watch as I dont give a fuck because I have like 50 withered and nothing can actually do anything because it all melts when i mayhem

Damn, I really don't want to level alts this expansion. Having to at least start questing in all zones is pretty fucking shit, it's nice the order can be mixed up but it's still the same quests. Can't skip it either because dailies (which are fun this time) need it. What do?

I simply cant play anymore, because the alliance "pvp heroes" have made it impossible to do so.

I refuse to pay for a faction change or server transfer. I shouldnt be monitarily penalized because of blizzards incompetence.

this is what it looks like.
I am literally the only horde there. And it has gotten much worse since mop

Yes

>Outlaw gets knocked out of stealth the very second they start the disguise check
>No chance to Sap in order to interrupt it

Thus the reason I do all Suramar WQs as Subtlety.

link to latest patch notes?

And you didn't get jumped on?
Wow, dude, teach me.

Wait, the large chests (that take 10 Withered to grab) only appear until you get it?

>playing on a pvp server after vanilla

What did you expect nigga

What's the Cred Forums approved way of farming ancient mana?
Server hopping isn't viable anymore, as everyone and their mother is doing it, especially in the vineyards.

yes you dumb fuck. they contain a permanent upgrade for your army

Fuck finding groups for mythics.

>about 1 week ago have ilvl 820
>try to find groups for mythics
>everyone wants ilvl 830
>finally get to 830
>everyone wants 840
>get to 840
>now everyone wants 845
>try to make my own group, but nobody ever joins

Fuck this shit!

Is there any fast way to level 60-80?
This shit is taking so fucking long with my alt jesus

Where do I grind ancient mana fast?

>caring this much to get geared this early
mists of pandaria called, they want you back

>waaah world pvp is dead!
>world pvp comes back
>waaah blizzard stop this shit world pvp is cancer!

It's the PTR 7.1 patch notes.
Nothing is final yet.

>He didn't powerlevel all of his alts to 100 during the Pre-Legion event
You fucked up bro.

Just fucking run around Suramar, it doesn't take more than 30 minutes to get 2000. Follow the rivers and pick up every kind you see on the minimap, the large ones usually give 50 mana.

It's not hard and since everyone's in Suramar like a retarded dumbfuck there's no competition ever.

Still, could use some brewmaster buff right now

You could buy a level 100 character boost and get into the exciting action of keeping Azeroth safe from the terrible clutches of the Burning Legion for only $60.

I dont think you know what world pvp is.

Pro tip dipshit: 100 alliance chainkilling 1 horde isnt it.

The ratio is literally 95 alliance for every 5 horde

At this point I'm having better luck getting ancient mana from the Leyline Rift buff than actually farming it.

I have no fucking idea where they are taking the legion story, but i do like it

Thanks guys, running the same dungeon 10+ times to get 2 levels is fun as fuck.

I FUCKING KNEW THE EMERALD NIGHTMARE WAS OLD GOD SHIT

I DIDN'T FUCKING BELIEVE IT WHEN THEY SAID IT WAS ONLY DEMONS AND XAVIUS

>I didn't do any research before choosing a server

Your experience is not everyone elses experience. Stop being a bitch since your situation is almost entirely your fault.

I don't know what to tell you man. Without the sense of exploration leveling has become a boring as fuck grind. Just keep at it, and use heirlooms if you can.

It was always Xavius fucking around with both.

>New week just started
>846 vengeance tank
>Ran all the mythics that drop loot that would be upgrades, got nothing
>Ran Arcway Keystone +2 twice for a chance at the trinket, got nothing
>World boss drops nothing
>No one needs a tank for raiding

At least there's next week I guess.

Of course it was. Emerald Nightmare was the Old God corruption seeping into the Emerald Dream. That's why all the corruption looks like Old God shit.

>nearing the end of Legion
>Khadgar says it's time to use the Pillars to banish them
>everything's all glowing and shit
>suddenly nothing
>meanwhile Northrend and Silithus have cracked open
>the Old Gods have been freed
Que them announcing the next expac The Old Gods, coming sometime next year!
In the meantime enjoy farming the last raid and the new content drought til then.

That's exactly what world pvp is and always has been. It was only ever 'balanced' in zerg vs zerg. If you were low pop you were fucked. It's exacerbated now because the pop isn't spread as thin, but that sounds like BRM to me.

If you want a fair fight, do an arena.

Skip Surumar

>Old Gods threaten to destroy Azeroth
>Sargaeras with his infinite boner for the Azeroth baby titan will ally with the forces of Azeroth to destroy them to keep his hot pocket fresh.
>playable demon races for both factions

Because of the other quotes

>"To find him, drown yourself in a circle of stars.

>"The boy-king serves at the master's table. Three lies he will offer you."

>"Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it."

>"The lord of ravens will turn the key."

>"Flesh is his gift. He is your true creator."

>Vengenece

Found the problem

Good comment, fucktard, but I was on that server since it was created.
It used to be balanced.

All of this is on blizzards head, because they didnt stop people from transferring to it, and didnt stop alliance characters from being created.

>do withered daily
>faggot warrior valkyr "saves me" and I die outside with 7 chests and 700 point of shit I can't loot

I'm done. Already done mythics at this point it's all gated bullshit and grinding. Fuck it.

I cant help but laugh at how retarded you are, for actually believing what some enemy tells you.

Gullible fucks like you are their prime targets.

>playing as a tank when half the population of WoW consists of tank players

Idunno
Yoggy was pretty spot on about Arthas

>Emerald Nightmare
>Never Tanked before
>Admittedly cause a few wipes all because of me
>Me and bro tank learn and get in the groove
>Healers all on point even some guy with 825
>DPS start to cause wipes and complain
>Get 3 bosses done in 3 hours

I love my guild but sometimes

I'd pay big money to have every Shadow Priest at the start of the next expansion become corrupted and turned into a 3rd faction of Old God dick suckers.

Actually, this is where it gets even more interesting

The Old Gods actually hate eachother, and spent the early years of Azeroth fighting eachother

Now, remember the pre-Legion questline where you go to Ulduar, meat Magni and go into the Celestial Planetarium (Algalons old room)?
Remember how there's faceless ones (ie minions of Yogg-Saron) attacking us and saying stuff like "You are nothing but pawns".

This suggest that the theory about the Pillar of Creation and N'zoths prison is true, and that the other old gods are trying to stop us

Also, both Xavius and Azshara are "minions"/servants of N'zoth

so once again Khadgar is gonna fuck us up

>Que cutscene of N'zoth coming out of the ocean and wrecking Sargeras
>Turns to the players and says "See you next expansion, Bitches"

I really like how Vengeance handles. Would have gone DPS but they nerfed the fuck out of almost all DPS survivability wise.

I still get instant invites to mythic keystone groups so it's not too bad. Never dying is also a great perk.

yeah boy. Now healers run the place

>tfw insta invites wherever I apply as resto dru

It's not a "he's a tank problem"
It's a he's a DH tank

>lord of ravens
Medivh? Khadgar?
>Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it
Savage.
A crater the size of a city :^)

it's a double problem

>never tanked before
tanking is easy, it just requires a bit more prep than maybe some other roles

read up on the fight mechanics beforehand, even for stuff that doesn't necessarily affect you. you need to know what other players are going to be doing so you don't (a) get in their way, (b) can get out of their way, or (c) can position/face the boss correctly so that they can do what they need to do

once you know the fight, it's generally just a matter of handling your rotation correctly and handling the mechanics correctly.

watching video guides of the fights can also help. some things are better conveyed through text, others through videos. i generally recommend watching the video after reading up on the fight so you can mentally refer back to the stuff you just read about as you see it happen or as the person talking about it mentions it.

>It is a small matter to control the mind of the weak... for I bear allegiance to powers untouched by time, unmoved by fate. No force on this world or beyond harbors the strength to bend our knee... not even the mighty Legion!

>We span the universe, as countless as the stars!

>I am merely one of... infinite multitudes.

They've been foreshadowing this since BC.

What's this about the pillars andN'zoth prison?

Ravencrest obviously.

>"Flesh is his gift. He is your true creator."
Is this gonna play out as another "we were sentient beings made of stone before we were cursed" like they did with the dwarves? Or is that what he's referencing specifically?

>People still think DH tanks are a problem

I'm literally running +6 mythics as one. My healers never complain and we rarely ever wipe.

Yeah I got it down in the end I think, I found the hardest part to be the timings with the Ursoc fight just because I'd start to tunnel vision

>pvp happening in a pvp server
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW HOW COULD YOU BLIZZARD

>yfw it will be the old gods to kick sergeras ass and not us

Let's talk about these, Cred Forums.

Also tfw probably too late to get into any decent PUGs.
>killed Nythendra, Elerethe, and Ursoc yesterday
>wiped on Il'gynoth about six times
;_; I mainly want Il for dat possible artifact skin drop but still ;_;

read it's all a ruse by nzoth the prank god

Whispers from the Il'gynoth fight in Emerald Nightmare

Haven't play WoW since cata and thought I might come back and see how things went while i was gone. Im so disappointed

Did this game always used to be this boring? Im seriously bored out of my fucking mind grind.
What a shit game this turned into

Warcraft hack writing. It IS true because subtlety is illegal in Azeroth, silly turbonigger.

the problem is that DH tanks are immensely easy to solo as, but in a dungeon, it's easy to fuck up and not use CDs.

A DH tank not using Spike skin is fucking tissue, and unfortunately common

>pillars of creation needed to defeat the Burning Legion
>By "defeat" they mean unlock Nzoth who eats them all
>Azeroth is my world and I shall be the only one to rule it
>Azeroth continents get Cata'd again now with old god jizz everywhere
>Khadgar says "We stopped the Legion invasion, but in the end we just traded one terrible master for another."

>rerolled on a pve server
>never have to worry about being ganked
>can help out in crowded areas without worrying I'll murder some dude in the crossfire or get murdered myself
>people hate fighting each other so much that even in free for all pvp WQs they still go for mobs and ignore each other

I wish I had known what a pvp server meant when I first started playing so many years ago, I could have avoided a lot of needless suffering

>A DH tank not using Spike skin is fucking tissue

I cannot fucking imagine someone being so stupid but this would explain why there's his weird disdain for Vengeance. I'd boot any fucker that didn't throw up Spiked Skin an in instant.

Khadgar is a meme loving fuck and I love it

They did that already in Wrath.
Yoggy made the Curse of Flesh, turning the Vrykul into flesh instead of metal and stone. They then had mutant children that are humans.

First one is Sylvanas

Naarus

Thrall

>To find him, drown yourself in a circle of stars.

Nightwell or algalon's chamber.

>"Flesh is his gift. He is your true creator."
Obvious, yogg is obvious.

Sylvanas has died three times though.

>couldn't clear mythic+ on our first attempt because our dps just wasn't good enough
Hating my warlock more and more each passing day boys.

>he didnt level his alt in full glad on a heavily skewed server
>he didnt pop niggas left and right as he pleased

Your loss. That was mad fun, even when you were getting shanked by 3 rogues

I always forget the suicide in icc.

Fugg

Sever hopping is the only way

>>pillars of creation needed to defeat the Burning Legion

Remember that it was Magni who told us this, after "being told it by the titans" that he had supposedly spoken to during the time he was crystalized

Everything points towards the theory being true

All good. That's why I'm so clueless as to who it actually COULD be.

That's fucking sad since anything below m4 is just a slightly bigger regular mythic dungeon

Yogg cursed the creations of the titans with a mortal form that would die (he being the self-proclaimed "God of Death") IE the curse of flesh.

Y'sharjj, mightiest of them, cursed them with the vices of Anger, Despair, Doubt, Fear, Hatred, Pride and Violence.

What did C'thun and N'zoth do?

Writing's gotten a lot better in Legion
>Huln Highmountain/Underking using his hammer being an allegory for the player
>Suramar is a city of disguises and intrigue, and the player has to wear a disguise while moving around
>zone storylines actually have themes instead of just fucking around for a while

>our hunter just got his third legendary item

lel

C'thun was the one enslaving the qiraji as a whole, while N'zoth is the sole reason for the Emerald Nightmare.

Blizz could've forgotten a death.

Gotta be bigger than that.

>still no one has found this shit yet
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Arms
>been gearing the fuck up for raid
>2/3 gold traits unlocked for Strom'kar
>run a Heroic
>tear shit the fuck apart
>Tactician procs pouring all over my dick
>400k burst dps on bosses, 250+ sustaining
>raid members want to trial me before raid gets thrown together
>do Mythic Maw
>getting NO FUCKING TAC PROCS
>150k dps on boss
>burst is shit because no fucking procs
>do great on fucking Helya, pull my big numbers
>raid lead tells me to work on my gear / rotation more
>don't get a spot in either raid groups
>FUCK
>get pissed and go do Keystones with some casual members
>back to mad procs out the ass

So glad some of these specs are dependent on fucking RNG.

>sole
yogg actually planted the seed, n'zoth did the most of it

>C'thun
He's responsible for giant bug people. And spider people and wasp people.
Fuck that guy.

Like the shaman healer and assassination rogue that shit is gated behind AK.

They probably don't count the natural death.

Spiders and deep sea bullshit

>being in a raiding guild
>in 2016
jesus christ
how does it feel to be a cuck?

N'Zoth likely made the Naga

Pretty sure Blizz is counting deaths AFTER being turned into a banshee
>ICC
>silverpine
>greymane after khadgar is like "dont do it bro" and GM is all "fuck you and fuck zombies"

EVERY single appearance for the frost dk appearance is utter shit but that one in particular.
Fuck me for playing frost in Legion, and fuck Blizzard and their incompetent artists.

>outlaw
>dps literally halves with shit rolls
You'd think they'd make options to even out the luck on the rng heavy classes.

Still got no info on prot warrior either

It's just fucking horseshit. I can either pull some ridiculous fucking DPS, or hit for jack shit while sitting around autoattacking desperately waiting on rage to spend praying for fucking tactician procs while doing 50k fucking dps because your entire rotation depends entirely on fucking Colossal Smash being up before you MS at 3 FRs or else you hit for 100-200k (otherwise 1mil+ with 3 FR and a CS up).

Camp Vineyard Gazebo. 2k mana in 15 minutes

>Rolled Fire mage cause Felo'Melorn
>Spec's great

Now I just need to get rid of my frost spells and I can be a try pyromancer.

Yeah, good luck doing that with 6000 other people server hopping there.

>The lord of ravens will turn the key
Doesn't Gul'dan HC say something about Khadgar memeing too much and dying or some shit

They had to have done something besides make their own faction. It's clear N'zoth and Yogg had their own "faceless ones" and the bug people each were descended from the Old Gods, Y'sharjj owning the Mantid, C'thun the Quiraji and Yogg influencing the Nerubians but curiously the Nerubians were shown not to worship Yogg but fear/rebel against him.

I really wish they'd done more with the Nerubians like they'd planned. We haven't seen a bug-like race that actively rebel against their Old God parents.

Reminder that we haven't actually killed any old gods, they all still live in azeroth. except for y'asharaj because he officially died by a titan

>Gul'dan fight in the Nighthold
Jesus christ how embarassing and pathetic at the same time.
Probably one of the worst way to kill a character.
Two expansions full of "lol i'm gul'dan the great master" and he just dies crying like a little bitch.

They sound like Cata DKs and MoP monks. Might actually try rolling a meme hunter sometime....

It spawn in a cave. People find it in the beta.

The Qiraji were actually enslaved, the Mantid revered and praised their old god, even if it was dead and shattered, while the Nerubians never had any affair with Yoggy, they were more busy dealing with the Lich King in all of their story rather than yogurt.

All they'd really have to do is increase the proc rate of Tactician I think. They reduced the CD of CS by 15sec, but it really doesn't do a while lot. Your DPS still ramps way the fuck down when you can't get any CS procs.

>raiding in current year

i mean come on

Nerubians came from quiarji

>Destro is random damage: the spec.
>No you don't get it! It evens out on 10 minute fights which only account for a tiny part of the game but who cares about anything else!

>versatility
Out of all the stupid random secondary stats they added in WoD why did they have to keep that one.

At what point in Mythic+ would a 844 Blood DK stop being at least semi-usable?

its big for rogues

spoil me on it I'm not raiding and won't be in the near future

Multistrike was not-crit so they canned it.

It's been changed since Beta, like many hidden appearances were.
People have camped it since they hit 110 for hours and hours.

N'Zoth created the Naga, made Deathwing insane, and did a lot of work on the Nightmare

and he may or may not be taking us on a ruse cruise with the pillars of creation

>demon hunter
>outdps literally everyone with 1 button and a dot

when you die on trash pulls

>Wear garbo items and tank trinket to inflate my ilvl.
>Switch to my slightly lower but better dps items once I get invited.
>No one has commented on it so far.

This is the case on my server too, and I get ganked now and then but for the most part I do the fucking ganking cause I'm not a pussy cunt alliance bitch who's scared of every nameplate.

Changed the eyepatch as per Cred Forums's suggestion.

I recently quit FFXIV, should I playing this game now?
My progress was leveling a bunch of characters to 50 or below trough out the years of trying it multiple times.

>still a gnome
>still an eyepatch
have you considered suicide you attention whoring fuck

The Suramar and class quests are what's killing alts for me. No way am I going through all of that shit again.

I'm on a heavy pop server and never have issues. Just camp only the gazebo and people will fuck off

So plain it actually needs shoulders.

yes

It was also more fun than totally passive bullshit and had room for synergy if the put some effort in but no, we instead keep totally passive bullshit.

How long would it take to understand the endgame and participate in these kind of discussions?

Shoulders always look too big on gnomes.

>Faggot ass warrior humble brags in gchat about the legendary he's got.

Why can't they just make Demonic Empowerment a 5 minute buff or something along those lines? It's such a big fucking mana hog since you need to cast it after every summon or you are fucked on your already meager dps. Then you have to spend precious seconds life tapping to fill back up so you eventually lose some dps anyways. No other caster really has to deal with this shit.

How long into this expansion do you think we'll get before the legendary salt subsides?

but there are 6 pillars of creation, or am i crazy

Yeah, but you can't get the sixth one cause it's firmly attached to my crotch.

I think you misunderstand.
It says the king of diamonds has been made a pawn, probably referring to the fact that he's fallen for the titan memes.

The EN is literally the result of Yog getting a chance to corrupt Vordrassil, giving him access to the ED.
This has been canon for a long time.

Once the next expansion hits. The salt will never stop and will only increase once more and more guilds start asking recruits to have two good legendaries on them.

>>"Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it."
Isn't this more Sylvanas and not Jaina

That way it refers to Khadgar, Sylvanas and Anduin who are the leaders.

What does humble bragging even sound like?

They need to just straight rework locks already. It feels like when they simplified everything and removed the fun ability synergies they forgot that warlocks are a dps class

>Hey (person) can you craft good gems? I need it for my [LEGENDARY ITEM].

By end of the expansion everyone will be legendary'd out, artifacts.

ilevel 999

Then GMs will come in and ding everyone to 255

and give people .kill commands.

But you would have to do a year mission first.

I too browse r/wow :^)

Yeeah, I got this [LEGENDARY] the other day but it's not really that good, they're really overhyped. But you know might as well wear it.

They've saud they're planning on having ways to definitely get a legendary later on, because while EN is balanced around not having them, the later tiers are

This holy fuck

Versatility is a super boring +1 stat and I hate it

It serves the same purpose as mastery, but at least mastery can be interesting

Whereas versatility is just these tiny number increases that have no effect on your playstyle

FUCK versatility, even as a tank I hate that garbage

it's doubly shit because the drop rate is supposed to go down with each one you get and some of them are a lot better than others
so if you get a bad one first you're fucked

My dick is so fucking huge I don't know where to out it. Like holy shit it always gets in the way that goddamn chunk of meat

>afflock
>multi was godtier with all the dots
Just another way they fucked locks in the ass

It goes both ways bitch nigga. There are tons of horde parties full of assfaggots too

How is arms with the 9% heal on MS in arena? I never get healers on my team for skirmishes.

This xp has already lost steam patheticly easy raid. horrible dungeons. forgettable zones. killed pvp.

rip wow

He's talking about the huge team difference, not the other faction being assholes

>patheticly easy raid
but mythic isn't out yet, is it?

I've never played this game before could someone recommend me a good late game class?

You could have just said low content that's all gated.

The elusive Full boner.

Why would you ever roll on a pvp server? Literally no point. Any worrthwhile world pvp content still occurs on Normal.

You literally just rolled to gank lowbies.

>Third death
Helya

>Blazes bright, shadows below
Could it be referring to Azeroth in general?

>He draws strength
I think this just means N'zoth feeds off their strength and the earth itself.

Also the raven turning the key thing sounds like Khadgar. Remember that we set out for the pillars after he searched Medivh's library for answers and consulted with Alodi on where to find said pillars. I wouldn't be surprised if shit goes south real fast once we kill Gul'dan, take the Eye of Aman'thul and try to close the portal that the Legion's been using, leading to Khadgar unknowingly dooming us a second time.

I just hope nothing happens to Khadgar. He's one of the very few character's I've grown to care about in quite some time.

The little I played Outlaw pre-legion it felt like I got more jackpots than actually getting that one buff that's really useful.

mage

>same shit, bigger numbers

?????????????

>Enh
>No stormstrike procs for entire fight

JUST

>playable demon races for both factions
>one gets doomlords, the other gets dreadlords

I'd actually be ok with that. Better than worgen and goblins.

I legitimately don't understand what is meant by "team." Can you elaborate?

Here's the issue. Blizzard hated Spirit, and they wanted it dead. But to kill it, they needed a replacement. Rather than actually look back at old gear and rebalance things, they just threw Versatility on there and called it a day, despite the fact that it's even worse than Spirit because of how hideously banal it is.

>Demon Hunter tanks outdamage every DPS class except for other Demon Hunters

Just take Slice n Dice :^)

doesn't mythic change some mechanics?

Druids are good for experiencing all three types (healer, tank, dps), and they consistently perform well

>trust nobody not even your DpS spec

>Destro will never be at its former glory ever again

Shame there's no grace to Vengeance at all.

How much Crit do I need as Fire to do better? I've been getting out dps'd by tanks and ret Pallys.

That battleground has two teams, one from Horde and the other Alliance. Every red healthbar is one from the enemy team, and the poster is the only one from his own team. This is probably due to his server having a low population in his faction, but the enemy faction having many more.

>Frost DK dps only beats Tanks after the nerf

What is the most fun ranged DPS?

>Main destro
>It'll get better after the hotfixes
>Oh, maybe it'll get better before raid progression begins
>Oh
I main warrior now, feels bad man

Spriest

Were pugs always this bad? I don't remember them being this bad.

got benched for out heroic run this week so i tried doing the normal mode and holy shit people are terrible. why can't people understand Ursoc mechanics it took me like 15 wipes

Spriest doesn't look that fun with them being shit outside Surrender to Madness.

After playing on private servers on and off since TBC I paid the $10 for the wow pack and played through the legion pre patch. I got to 100 and managed to get 20k out of 37k of the gold required for a wow token with 15 days to spare but then I felt like playing a different game for a bit. Then when my sub was about to run out I brought all the heirlooms I could get so I can easily do f2p pvp.

If wow had no sub fee I'd enjoy it, as you don't feel obliged to play it as to not waste your
money. Blizzard must get a decent amount of money from expansions and the cash shop, I reckon subs are still a thing just because the dedicated player base has gotten used to them. The wow tokens sound like a good idea but you just substitute your time for money. Maybe I'm just a autistic jew and don't like the pressure that limited game time puts on you
How do you lads do it?

>Not playing Monk

Yes, there is more shit to deal with as well as bigger numbers. Dragons fight for example has all 4 of them.

monks will go back to being a dead class after they get their nerf- and we ALL know its coming

I rerolled DH.
Still a pain to get into pugs but atleast I shit out damage now.

I honestly don't understand why they don't just increase the base damage of lock abilities in a hotfix. It's pretty obvious that they're incredibly underwhelming and need more subtle fixes, but it's a better bandaid than giving more soul shards
Blizz always seem to be really fucking horrible at balance somehow. Surely they have access to better simulations than thirdparty websites, since they've got all the hard data? The "taking turns" balance doesn't really work in an mmo with 6 month gaps between balance patches. Shit, arms warrior was doing around a quarter of the dps of the top tiers during the entire HFC period. How do you consistently fuck up so badly?

>pre-patch
>"warlock is going to be the best class in legion, suck it fags"
>post-patch
>"will suck cocks for mythic spot"

Play druid so you can try every role.

I'm happy to pay the sub because I feel like I'm getting my money's worth. Plus now I'm making enough gold to pay for a couple of months game time due to some lucky recipe drops and retards buying garbage (literally why would you buy Aqual Marks? They're only 805)

>tfw melee and basically impossible to catch them

Blizzard love sucking ranged dick I tell ya hwat

>xpac all about demons
>npcs comment about how locks even shit all over demon hunters because they can just banish them
>literally bottom tier in gameplay
wew lad

>arms warrior was doing around a quarter of the dps of the top tiers during the entire HFC period

Thats why they are on top. I think blizzard's problem is that a lot of dps specs do very well when played a specific way but suck when played differently. Blizz tries to make sure shit players do around the same damage regardless of spec but completely ignores that some classes do absurd dmg when played properly.

Look at DHs who don't use all the jump talents... they do shit dps outside of mass aoe pulls

>good dps=fun
Voidform is the fun part of Spriest, S2M just makes it last much longer if you aren't shit.

That "battleground" is the timeless isles during MoP you retard

Oh whoops, I thought it was that pvp area with the orbs
My bad

Taking turns is especially retarded now when you have to invest a lot more time into a spec

anyone else find DH dps kind of shitty to play? You have to use your movement abilites for optimal DPS but the camera changes mean you often can't see the mechanics you could be jumping into.

Cenarius is a great example of this... you can't see far enough to know if the roots are behind you when you jump so you have to yolo it

Im thinking of rolling a whole new character on a pvp server, its always fun to join groups that are on pvp servers

Your character is shit fucking kys

This is why DH DPS is falling short. Sure you do incredible damage in an environment that allows for it but in raid boss fights or even in trash you threaten killing yourself/aggroing something you didn't mean to by flipping around.

only you can stop legion fires

nice post autismo

Its almost bad enough for me to want to reroll but that means you're basically just catching up until nighthold releases

>Arms is going to get a nerf for no compensation
>Fury takes 30% damage for literally no reason
>prot warriors are shit in raids and Mythic+ resort to memestatus

Welp bros, Paladin or Druid?

>ret is shit

Fuck

It's easily the hardest dps class in the game right now just because of the hazards in fights. If they ever nerf bloodlet, their effectiveness will drop really fast in raids. In mythic+, they're probably the best melee class with windwalker monk.

>prot warriors are shit in raids

Are you fucking serious? They're literally THE main tank class. You know, the role they were known for since fucking ever?

>Warlocks get the scepter of Sargeras
>Worst ranged dps class

JUST

>Fury doesn't have the damage output to justify the shitty increased damage aspect
It feels bad when you're outside the burst window.

Which is better, Prot Warrior or Blood DK?

reading the Chronicle for the first time... how can anyone stomach this shit?
>Though the trolls were of only average intelligence, they possessed incredible agility and strength.
>Although humans were diminished in size and strength from their progenitors, they possessed incredibly strong willpower and survival instincts.
>Though considered uncouth and savage by many of the humans from other regions, Ignaeus and his northlanders were unmatched in their bravery and strength.
>

>tfw warlock main

>maining a class that can only DpS

>tfw you do twice the damage of warlocks but guilds still want them over your scrub melee class

not spending my gold like a fucking retard. for example, my guild is raiding normal EN tonight? why the fuck would i pay 5k a flask, 2k for a shit potion, and 500 gold for a fucking SINGLE food item on a negligible difficulty? fuck that , i got a few augment runes and some mediocre food which gives wrong stats. that ought to do

>tfw out of all the melee DPS you decide to play you pick Ret

Ignore pain doesn't scale with anything but HP.

Druids can absorb more damage Plus have more self healing, something that becomes more important the more damage you take.

Warriors can't take high damage compared to Druids, who can easily stack % based mitigation with Self-healing and their base stats that are huge.

How's Mistweaver Monk now? Anyone play one?

>Ret's are like 5th best DPS class
>Most of the ones above are either Meme shit like FR Warrior who will be nerfed or LuckRogues.

Ret needs 30% Haste. That's all, everything else is the Paladin doing perfect damage in every situation.

just walking around the streets of the city while doing world quests + vineyard. easy

Meters in EN say otherwise.

In short, Druids are Better for Progression AND get better with gear.

Warriors do not.

Druids also put out better DPS, something that is also important in progression as a tank. Because Druids DPS is not tied to their rage use.

>I can only play on weekends now that I'm back at college
>back at college
>now have LESS time to game
does not computer

>get new archaeology quest that sends me back to that guy in Azsuna
>figure it's something you do multiple times for a different artifact each time
>go turn it in
>get no new quest afterwards
>won't get another quest for a week or two

You got any personal meters?

All you need is judgement up 100%. And you're fine.

I THINK Paladins are a little weak in AoE unless you spec for it like Zeal.

But Paladins are very artifact specific.

>not playing Legion while listening to TBC soundtrack

IP scales from AP tho

>mythic+ mode
>you cannot replace a member even after the timer has elapsed
>if the timer elapsed, you are still obligated to finish it or else the loot is lost forever
>literally anyone can troll and DC out or ragequit the moment you start a +10 run and you will not be able to finish it with just 4 people, and since the keystone will be depleted afterwards no one will join you anymore as it awards no loot

AHAHHAHA HOLY FUCKING SHIT! HOW DID THAT GET PAST THE RADAR?

THIS IS LITERALLY AS BAD AS HAVING RAIDS ONLY ALLOW 20 UNIQUE BATTLENET IDs, IF SOMEONE LEAVES, NO REPLACEMENTS TILL NEXT WEEK!

Also

>it costs 3000 gold to flask for one hour
>runes cost 600 gold and expire on death
>combat potions cost 600 gold each and are used twice in a fight

HAHAHAH

Do you normally play that zoomed out?

More. Always more. At about 50% crit, thing will start to look up.

Also the burst rotation will help a lot, use Rune of Power if you're not already

But it's capped to be I think either Half or a Third of your HP.

The difference between a druid and a Warrior isn't so hard until you start getting to Mythic raids or in Nightwell.

Ignore Pain as a mechanic is utter ass because % based Mitigation will ALWAYS beat flat numbers.

Titans were retconned to be much stronger than the Old gods. Their main power lies in the fact that they hold the planets they corrupt hostage. Sargeras has literally cleaved a planet asunder full of old gods destroying all of them and one pantheon Titan reached into azeroth, picked up the most powerful of azeroths Old Gods and ripped him in a storm filled sky. The old gods are petrified of Sargeras coming anywhere near Azeroth which is why they seem to interfere in every event tied to bringing him closer.

it doesn't really matter if they nerf Outlaws dips. It's still the only viable spec for rogues because both raids and mythic + are made with trash fights in mind. We have like 2 bosses without adds.

>EU prices
>5 k elixir
>1,2 k flask
>runes 1 k
>Food
>need to buy health pots because among 30 player no one wants to play warlock

We had someone in the guild that said he would play warlock but dropped it becuase how fucking boring they are. I can't wait until that shitty BoS vendor pops up and crushes the price of everything in AH

>complete 25 highborne artifacts
>nobleman's letter opener
>nobleman's letter opener
>pre-war highborne tapestry
>nobleman's letter opener
>pre-war highborne tapestry

More

Fact is I would take a ret Paladin over a memepirate or a Memewarrior because a Ret paladin geared right won't end up doing sub 50% DPS because they lucked out.

is emerald nightmare the most boring raid ever?

Vineyards.

Best way I find is the azure bay.

Best new dungeon?

My vote is maw of souls

It's pretty straightforward and is definitely the best presented one

Violet Hold
muh nostalgia

Outlaw doesn't really suffer that bad from bad roles though. I hate the spec but has everything a dps need and they are not energy starved like the other 2 spec.

I just really wanna play Assa or Sub. But this fucking meme pirate spec is probably going to be the only viable until they actually fix Sub and Assa in some strange way.

>level warlock from 90 - 100 pre legion patch
>see some guild looking for ranged dds
>mage, elemental, owl, hunter, warlock
>might aswell apply, played warlock since I started in BC
>get too 100
>no fucking way will I continue playing this sack of shit
>reroll mage because I'm an autist and like casters
>launch day
>guild still looking for warlocks, owls and elementals for raiding
>today dick around in dalaran, mostly underbelly
>guild has removed every class but warlock from their macro but nobody wants to fucking play it
It's sad and funny at once

killed 4 of the bosses.

i'd rather just stick to mythic+10 dungeons but it's not really viable because blizz fucked up the lockout system and nerfed loot by 60% and evne put an artificial level cap.

Doing Mythic/Keystones as ret here friend, doing just great.

Helps to spec for full AoE since trash makes up most of the dungeons.

Millie Manastorm destroyed my sides the first time we got her.

3 max rage IPs without Never Surrender, 6 max Rage IPs with it. So if you can max an IP before tanking (highly likely in a raid scenario) you'll get about 2.1 mil damage absorb without NS and an insane amount with it. This also doesn't factor in Shield Block which is 30% flat reduction on physical at a minimum.

If you use the Milhouse toy while she's present you get one-shot

Blood DK. Hardly ever need a healer and when you do, it's the thing you're hitting.

We had two of us use it in Mythic and got the achievement. :^)

The Delicate Art of Telemancy.

There i said it. How much did everyone hate this piece of shit quest?

>daily reminder that the faceless one in violet hold says something about Nzoth
>Daily reminder that blizzard has "casually forgotten to mention what Nzoth was up to" when asked in interviews, and the chronicle
TFW we have been N'zoths master plan all along.

sounds like a pretty good idea desu

use the old gods to kill the legion.

Why would a guild look for warlocks anyways?

The rocks are free health pots and the summon gate helps get everyone to raid.

Gotta have someone to blame for everything that goes wrong during raids, i guess.

Holy shit, really? That's hilarious.

It's Jaina.

Her first "death" was her losing Arthas. Her second was when she lost Theramore and ger father.

Now she's going to do some major shit at the end of the expac and lead into an Old God expac.

Guardian druids can keep up at least 2 stacks of Ironfur.

Fact is 2.1 million IP is eaten away by everything fast.

You simply cannot keep IP long, while Guardian Druids can keep their mitigation up all the time.

I just find it really strange that blizzard are so hands off with balancing until everyone has done EN. We have classes that have obvious problem with specs that are just better. Classes like Fire mage,Outlaw rogue,Unholy DK,BM hunter (because you can actually move and dps) and Arm warrior.

Then we have a class like warlock as you mention, nobody wanna play that shitty class and it's mostly not because of the dps number and more of just how fucking boring they are. I really wanted to play one because we always needed one, but can'-t really be bothered playing something that is so stale and uninspiring. Don't understand how you can fuck something up that is about summoning demons and collecting souls to do more damage.

Healthstones and portals. But also because most guilds seem to lack warlocks in general. Think I have seen more monks than warlocks this expansion.

The main point of warrior is to keep a form of active mitigation, not just IP. Shield Block and Artifact are fantastic bridges. Guardian's problem is that rage generation is too readily available and that their mastery is far too strong even after 2 nerfs, Ironfur isn't as strong damage mitigation individually against IP, Shield Block, Demon Spikes and SoTR. Also Frenzied Regen.

I would love to play Warlock if all 3 of their specs weren't shit and Demo wasn't so poorly made.

You can keep at least 2 stacks of Ironfur up 100% or keep MoU up 100%.

Guardian druids mitigate damage through % damage reduction, something they can get to insane degrees.

Armor has heavy DRs meaning that 2 stacks of ironfur probably equates to 60% more DR from armor which is only about 30% more than baseline. It's nowhere near as poweful as people make it out to be beyond it's uptime.

*60% total DR from armor

well with the suramar questline we are looking for a way to turn back withered into normal nightborne maybe in a future patch

>nobody talks about these

Ironfur's strength is it being able to sit at the Armor cap easily.

Guardian druids have tons of inate % base damage reduction on top of hitting the armor cap, tons more DP and tons more healing.

You seem to forget a Guardian druid will straight up have like 20% more HP than anyone and 20% more healing.

Also, Tons more useful cooldowns.

>The Old Gods actually hate eachother, and spent the early years of Azeroth fighting eachother
Well yeah they do. There were 5, they destroyed and ate its essence for more power.
So uh yeah they kinda don't "hate" each other, more like emotion doesn't enter into it, they just gotta eat.

>that their mastery is far too strong even after 2 nerfs

>once you know the fight, it's generally just a matter of handling your rotation correctly and handling the mechanics correctly.
Yeah if you want to be a mediocre sucky tank.

That's not correct at all

I do.

As a long time resto druid, it's a different sort of deal. Your AOE healing is basically hammered shit until you can get a couple of the gold artifact talents, and even then your positioning is paramount to make any use of them. If you ever played one before now you're going to find a lot of your utility abilities stripped out because streamlining.

But overall, I'm still having fun with it. Still moreso than the shattered husk that is resto druid anymore.

seriously i started playing in BC (a few weeks after BT hit) and started on a PVE server I always read how PVP servers were superior and had a much better experience with warth i rolled on a PVP server

>Level 20-70 Getting ganked by geard 80's
>Level 80 Getting Ganked groups of gankers 5v1
>Group up with guildies for a 5v5
>they run
>Level 80 in PVP Gear questing arround try to fight a similary geared Belf pally
>bubbelhearth

imgur.com/a/dIhws
love the elf bants

>Doing the withered scenario on my druid and then my priest.
Who the fuck decided that shit was balanced?

>doesn't mythic change some mechanics?
People always mention this. The question for you though.

Does that actually make it more fun?

>that feel when don't even bother doing Brewfest on the Horde because it's garbage compared to the real, Dwarven version

>in a no guide EN pug at Il'gy
>figure it out on our own
mite b cool

Well you were complaining about it being easy. Then you were complaining about it just being bigger numbers.

>FLESH AND BONE TO EARTH AND STONE!
>FLESH AND BONE TO EARTH AND STONE!
>FLESH AND BONE TO EARTH AND STONE!
>FLESH AND BONE TO EARTH AND STONE!

>This casual guild sounds fine, I'm tired of being alone anyways
>Notice some grammatical/spelling error in their guild name
I'll just keep being alone.

>DUDE the CLASS FANTASY
>DUDE what if setting someone on fire like sometimes gave you a soul shard randomly?
>DUDE I feel like a total warlock right now bro
>that's what it was missing bro just that idea

Now that the dust has settled, what are the best/worst classes?

true hybrids > heals that can also DPS > tanks that can also DPS > pure DPS

With the way this x-pack shits on alts, explain how I'm wrong. If you didn't roll monk/druid/paladin you done fucked up.

>waiting on faggots to show up to Nithogg

Goddammit.

do you really need a hybrid if you're a main tank or healer though?

Just join a LFG

>what is group finder

No, but if you ever want to do anything other than main tank/heal you're totally fucking screwed if you're not hybrid'ed properly.

Or I guess you could spend days on an alt doing the same shit all over again while your main falls behind the curve of copious shit to do.

why would you want to do something else?
there's always more than enough dps

It really annoys me that blink, demonic gateway, and heroic leap were made so less mobile but then in legion they decide to give outlaw rogues a grappling hook that is head and shoulders better and demon hunters a double jump and glide. Also class flavour seems really fucked up in terms of what classes get what. Most artifacts and artifact quests suck with a few that are great. Some are almost literal copy pastes of others. In the world druids, shamans, and mage (might be more) have little events that give artifact power and add some flavour while I haven't seen anything with my warrior and dk. Class access is another thing where some, mage excluded because mages have always had ports, have direct teleports while others have to run around dal to get there. Even something little like being able to die as warrior and having a valk'yr take you to your hall would have been neat. As well druids get dialogue in dark heart thicket for their artifact weapon and I was extremely disappointed warriors didn't get a little flavour dialogue from Odyn in Halls of Valour despite him being part of your class hall. Just in general the level of work that was put in to the different classes feels like some got the most attention while others had it slapped on for the sake of it being there.

>DUDE the CLASS FANTASY
>DUDE what if you had to empower your demons each time you summoned new ones?
>DUDE what if you could only regularly summon some imps and demon dogs with the bigger, cooler demons being on a 1.5 min cooldown at minimum?
>DUDE I feel like a total warlock right now bro
>that's what it was missing bro just that idea

>main spec heals
>off spec tank because know other healers
>usually spend time questing/farming in DPS spec so I can melt faces faster

Hybrids a best.

well every tank/heal has a dps spec for questing

They are fine when they can stick to one target but if they have to swap, judgement makes it clunky as fuck when combined with mobility and how Holy Power works.

I really don't get why they just don't turn it into a self buff, that alone solves like 80% of Rets problems.

Hence why they're above pure DPS and below true hybrids.

Are you even paying attention?

>really wanted to main my warlock this expansion
Fuck you blizrd

Should I level my Rogue (101) or my Warrior (76)?

I like Rogue, but I'm a bit tired of doing Legion content that I've already done on my main (Monk).

>change destro in MoP
>you now consume yourself in fel fire for more and more power (burning embers)
>everything you do wreathed you in more fire to channel into your big spell (chaos bolt)
>guys that's not the class fantasy, it should be about RANDOM CHAOS CRAZYNESS
>RNG MASTERY
>RNG ARTIFACT
>RNG DAMAGE HOLY SHIT
>Now THIS is Warlocking!

Yes I'm upset.

Khadgar is that good friend who enables your bad tendencies.

>this is what PVE players really believe

Holy shit

They should just give Destro a passive called Reigns of Chaos that reduces the gap, so instead of 0% extra damage to say 80% extra damage it's like 30%-80%.

>Usual druid shit in druid zone
>Suddenly Owlkin literally melting dryads into ooze puddles
>There's a torso of a dryad half melted into a table giving quests

The fuck man.

Not him but I switched because 99% of the pvp that happens on pvp servers is one or two people shutting down whole zones because they sit outside the questing hub and gank lowbies. I exclusively did dungeons from 80-90 during WoD because you literally couldn't quest because of the ganking. Almost every time you encountered someone your level if you didn't engage they'd just ignore you anyway. The only time world pvp was interesting or fun was at max level because you either got to kill gankers, who usually seem to have shit gear or are terrible at pvp, or had actual competition over world resources which was incredibly rare and again unless you engaged they likely just ignored you.

With FFA pvp zones in Broken Isles I'm 100% content on a pve server because I can enjoy that 1% fun world pvp and not be at all involved with the 99% shit world pvp.

Here's a fun game, what is the first page you can find a Warlock in this list:

warcraftlogs.com/rankings/10#boss=1841

>play on balanced PVP server
>gank Alliance players
>they literally just stand still and /sigh, waiting for the sweet release of death

Why even play on PVP servers if you're a giant pussy in shiny armor? How beta can one be?
I just quit my main on PVE server because the safety made me bored out of my mind.

>gank someone
>upset they don't bother trying after getting stunned for 10 seconds and have 25% HP before they can even act

mage here

thanks for giving us your fire class fantasy

I wtf'd as well. Kind of unexpected.

>more than one skull
What does it mean?

...

Dwarves are the best
>Funloving
>Got their shit together
>Actually quite intelligent
>Tough as stone
>Excellent racials

>manlets
when will you learn?

i wonder who's behind this shilling general

>Frost DKs are terrible
>nerf them more
What?

My army's upgraded to the point the entire thing is a cakewalk now.

>Elves
Keep sucking that Orc and Rotten corpse cock

Some people react, some even manage to come back from that and wreck me - those guys are respectable.

But having paladins with fancy transmog sets just sitting there and taking it like a little bitch is just pathetic.

At least try to run for it, jesus. If you're going to cry and willingly let people shit on you in a game where you're supposed to pretend to be a mighty adventurer, you've really reached rock bottom.

He's dead

Shaman healer is just first boss in Wrath of Azhara though. You can farm that shit on normal

He'll be back in 7.1 once we figure out how to cure the Withered.

>His voice
Oh you mean Lorewalker Cho 3.0, they fucking used the same voiceactor for 3 fairly prominent characters in Legion

If your not a Plate class or Tank, You'd be lucky to survive a stunlock duration before you die

If a rogue lets someone get away from a stunlock they are terrible

I feel dirty transmogging my artifact weapon.

I'm glad all the bows look dope as fuck. Transmogging the bow removes the quiver and that fact ruins my day.

I feel good knowing every Thas'dorah appearance has a color scheme to match the Season 1 Hunter set, and that my Hunter is a Blood Elf. Everything clicks so nicely.

So for world quests, after you complete the 4 quests for the faction, do you turn in anything anywhere or do you keep doing quests and the caches will drop from then on? I completed my 4th but had to leave for work

Exactly - I'm undergeared (ilvl 770-ish) and only recently started playing rogue. I'm terrible at it and my gear is shit.

Still, they don't fight back.
They are whipped beyond salvation.

>wah I'm a rogue why won't anyone 1v1 me after I chop their health bar off
>if they do fight back vanish lmao literally no risk to you
You are what is wrong with PVP in the first place.

It's the same as D3, you just run to that zone's emissary and turn-in for the cache.

Playing a mage sort of makes it feels like you and Khadgar are the two most powerful mages on the planet, and you're both making shit up

Legion has a few darker things like that, Suramar has some of it too with the whole oppressed people and child kidnappings and summary executions.

>"The lord of ravens will turn the key."
>first patch is returning to Karazhan

Zug Zug?

salty warlock here to say fuck this expansion and fuck blizz

Who said anything about elves you queer manlet?

Trying to pug EN has made it that much clearer that I really should try and get on a backup team for some actual competent guild.

Because you start tossing around hot memes like a typical Elven casual

Dont you got a troll futacock waiting for you in a silvermoon inn? You disgusting ERPing faggot

>i don't know how to use my abilities, wah wah

You should make a macro for that /sigh, or you might get hurt pressing all those buttons.

>September 21, 2016 Curse client patch notes
>Added a WoW game version column to the "My Addons" and "Get More Addons" pages.
Where were you when Curse called Blizzard the fuck out and added vanilla support?

Done Maw+2 and EoA+3 tonight, was pretty fun.

Ate shit on both a few times thanks to bad pulls but on Maw I got my keystone back. What do you guys think of Keystone dungeons so far?

How is Arcane? I keep hearing people saying Fire is just the best right now, but I prefer the sound of the staff artifact.

>tfw afflock
>always a 5+ second initiation stun
>set up dots that do nothing
>get shadow locked for 5+ seconds when I try to use my important abilities
>after that's done, another 5+ second stun
>even if I could actually do anything, every class has rehealing abilities anyway
I have a shrug macro that I spam now whenever I get in these fights, because I literally can't do anything else

I've done this for every class but my Paladin.

Arcane is decent ST. Fire just has the edge right now because it is an AOE monster.

I'd make fun of you for really having that shrug macro, but from what I've been hearing, afflocks are in a horrible spot right now.
I feel sorry for you, but not in a condescending way. Hope Blizz fixes warlocks soon.

Pallies are still giant pussies though.

>Survival Hunter inexplicably nerfed overnight

dude what

Why are her areolae visible?

>People discussing vidya must be one the payroll!

Go and enjoy a frosty glass of bleach or two, my friend.

>clear EN
>walking around the Emerald Dream, the first non-druids to do so in thousands of years
>everyone is safe and just dreaming, even Ysera.
>empty cave
>save for a demonic flower "the last remnant of the void"
What does it mean?

The artifact ability is now on the GCD, whereas previously it wasn't. The whole spec feels clunky as shit now. Thanks, blizz.

Just remember that somewhere out there someone unironically rerolled into a SV hunter.

Hey, at least you're not a warlock or frost dk.

I've got the exact same shit on my server. When I last played in Cata it was more or less balanced, but now it's 8:1 in favour of alliance.

>Already canceled my sub and went back to playing FFXIV

Game isn't meant for the core audience anymore let it die.

Anyone willing to offer input?
Giving up on Warlock various reasons, damage being a teeny, tiny one, with other reasons being much more decisively persuasive , and I'm stuck between:
>Old God Pope
>Alternative Glaive Wielders
>Ice Mage

Any advice?

>running violet hold
>frost dragon guy comes out
>starts casting that 20 second freeze
>tell everyone to run to the second level
>I'm the only one that does
>the two other dps die
>people start bitching in chat about how it's bugged, tell them again to go the second level
>casts it again
>tank runs up, healer doesn't
>happens again
>and again
>and again
>finally down the boss thanks to the tank's sustain
>"lol sorry first time here"

Shadow priests are forced into surrender of madness.
Frost mage is shit, if you go mage you have to play fire.
DH is literally good at every possible dps situation, but it's braindead easy and boring.

How are priest and druid healing? Thinking of leveling one.

What is the most fun ranged DPS right now? I was thinking of playing Spriest but S2M seems like the most unfun mandatory skill ever.

would someone be willing to powerlevel me from 95 to 100? I'm tired of WoD and doing the same dungeon over and over because I don't have good enough gear.

I'd say Ice Mage, it's pretty fun and looks awesome when you use the spell that combimes all icy spear things into one big one

>DH is literally good at every possible dps situation, but it's braindead easy and boring.
hardest rotation with momentum

>in before meme shit

let me xd in advance

Yes because Mythic is the only relevant difficulty

Heroic literally doesn't fucking matter and Normal doesn't even register on my radar

If you raid in WoW and you don't raid Mythic you're wasting your time

I suspected as much.

Thanks man.

I don't want to heal this expac, and Fire just didn't click with me.

DH it is then.

Thanks man.

Frost is fun, although DHs don't really have to heal every 1-2 trash packs whilst levelling, which is appealling.

Their artifacts kinda suck though.

>heroic Ursoc
>ranged doing half the damage of melee

>tfw did most damage as ranged during 10m N Ursoc

So what should I do?

>Sold my account years ago
>Came back and started an Enh Shaman
>40 something doing loremaster
>Thinking about buying Legion and getting 100 instantly

Should I boost my Enh to 100 and buy Legion?

Some of my friends who got me back into this game a week ago have already quit saying Legion got boring.

>Have no idea what the mechanic is
>Whole group doesn't know
>Everybody gets frozen
>Ashbringer actually breaks me out due to breaking CC longer than 2 seconds
>Manage to break Healer out
>Get to tank
>At this point the other DPS gets out
>Quick glance at Dungeon journal and we sweep the rest of the boss

Retadins are the best. Fuck what those sims said.

Ret is fantastic for cheesing mechanics. We can't get around fast for some fights but being able to just outright ignore some using bubble is great.

You should have stayed away because the expansion didn't fix shit.

When you hit cap level you realize the game caters to the newer audience who enjoys things to be brain dead easy ontop of the fact that all the original WoW devs are long gone and metzen just left .

Don't fall back into the trap man.

I can do this with touch of karma and do double your dps

They have a trial feature so you can learn the basics of the new specs and hwo they play. They've dumbed down all the classes considerably to fit their "class fantasy". Healers are in short supply and melee are king this expansion.

>Go to Touch of Karma the boss
>Get stunned
>Get rooted
>Die to dots on the way
>Slowed to oblivion

Sure.

How is The Divine Crusader for tankiness/DPS?

NO NO NO NO NO DONT DO IT

Shamans are mediocre and their class hall is fucking stupid.

Don't forget you can do that whilst also having far far better mobility and AoE than us too.

I'll stick doomhammer up your ass if you say that again faggot i'll fuck you up

>Rolling around in the dirt is comparable to denying ANY movement related CC AND a Horse

>There's an AoE out there that beats the buffed Wake of Ashes into Divine Storm that isn't coming from a Fire Mage

Good thing it won't hurt since Shamans are fucking garbage.

Monks have 2 rolls and can spec for more, as well as a teleport and that kick thing that takes them over range.

We get a 3 second horse with a long CD and can spec to get 2 charges of it, at the cost of longer bubble CD.

300k single target dps AT LEAST as enhancement shaman.
Elemental on the other hand is insanely low.
Restoration is top tier

Monks are fucking retarded bullshit. I can't wait until they're nerfed into the ground.

enh and resto are great

...

LOLOLOLOLOL

please respond

are you ok?

You are literally fucking retarded. Look at the fucking OP image

Enhance does more dps single target than windwalker, and equal damage overall. Plus we have windwalk totem + buffs.

Once windwalkers get +25% raid wide movement speed 100% uptime legendary, they'll shit on all melee

Good thing I play both

Stay salty bitch.

>mfw these magical nerfs are never ever coming

nigga are you retarded, we've had the exact same mobility our entire existence, that won't be touched.

they might nerf our aoe a little more, but big fucking deal

Ret can do good AoE, the problem is that they need to spec out of single target to do it. Monks don't need to do that, they just hit one button different and carry on doing whatever.

>resub
>log back on
>immediately get DCed
>try to log back in
>"character with this name already exists"

fuck this game

Who /bestmount/ here?

Really running around with any of the Legion mounts before every single shitter can co-opt them is nice

That means your character still hasn't logged out of the world after your crash you mong. Have you literally never played WoW before and just talking about resubbing to seem cool?

>TFW when you realize you will never be a sex slave to a unga bunga troll godess

I've got my Swift Razzashi Raptor and my Ultramarine Qiraji Battle Tank so I'm happy.

You'll have to catch him first.

Fuck forgot the pic

Arcane is decent if it can stand still and turret without any interruptions on a single target.

If the plan deviates from that at all, fire blows it away.

Every mage is fire right now for a reason

>still no mount

fire is overtuned as hell and blizzard is okay with it

Arcane is worse in every single way and has less mobility.

You know your spec is shit when your optimal rotation is to drop rune of power in a pack of mobs and spam arcane explosion.

sick mount bro

FUCK thats not the pic

Whatever, the LW moose.

Isn't that basically just listening to the Legion soundtrack what with all the reused music?

I'd ride it.

are you the mount?

did they change global chat numbers or am i going crazy

currently my trade in zones with trade doesn't exist and everyone's just spamming in /1 which should be general, and my general is now /3 in non-cities

It's not that fire is overtuned, it's mostly Frost being irredeemable shit and Arcane not having the burst it used to.

Fire mages are competitive right now, maybe nerf Rune of Power and put some points elsewhere, because Combustion+Rune and everything is fucking insane burst, but after that it falls to mediocrity

>haven't played since Firelands
>somehow ended up being in a HC group
this will be fun

Is Blizzard going to fix Brewmaster monks and Warlocks?

No, they're too busy redesigning ret's good talents for apparent reason.

You or an addon fucked something up.

heroic is the same as old regular raiding.

Mythic is what old heroic used to be.

Essentially you're just raiding like you used to. Oughta be fine

Why is Shadow Priest so fucked? DPS is garbage outside of needing to use a meme skill that forces you do have 100% uptime against a single target just to do competitive damage and you die at the end. This shit is fucked.

no

no

>be in suramar for days since the launch
>just today found out you can grapple to areas above

Just became my favorite city in the game.

brm is going to be the best/one of the best tank once gear comes into play

well that's more likely, i'm used to fucking everything up

time to try and fix, because resetting chat settings doesn't work

>fix Brewmaster monks

As someone who only tanks for shits and giggles, tell me what's wrong with it.

Spriest is top 3 dps though

>ilevel is 835
>try to do mythics
>denied, denied, denied, denied
>tfw always top heroic dps as outlaw rogue but cannot into mythics

Feels bad man.

Assuming it's not an addon fucking up all your preset channels, just go to a city, exit all chat channels, then rejoin in the order you'd want them to show up.

>arluin
F

Blizzard refuses to make SPriest generally good casters

thanks, i'll try that!

have some cute as a reward because we're about to hit bump limit anyway

Just make your own group. Only way I ever manage as a dps, usually fills fast enough.

YOU DID A GOOD JOB HERO.
BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO DO SOME MORE CLASS MISSIONS.

Why is Blizzard so adamant on ruining Warlocks?

Dunno, why are Warlocks the whiniest and entitled class in the game?

Seriously these past three weeks are just the first three weeks of WoD repeated verbatim. You all fucking spat the dummy that you weren't #1 after SoO and then you turned out alright in the end

Warlocks will be fucking fine, you'll get your precious buffs and be back at #1 in no time

>Be the top spec for 14 months
>still has the gall to complain another spec for the same class is now king shit

Mages people

totally bro

tfw I haven't played in so long that the shiniest looking mount I have is the Hearthsteed

>warlocks are fine
>worst pure DPS by far
>all 3 specs perform worse than almost every other range DPS

That argument you made would have worked before Mythic+ and RN but it doesn't now.

>haven't raided/played semi-seriously since WotLK
>actually enjoying mythic 5-mans
>no static 5-man group for keystone mythics
>no guild
fug

>14 months

try like 5 fucking years

Fire is really not that overpowered

It's good don't get me wrong, definitely in the top tier of specs

But objectively It's just not really as strong as most people think it is

And I think that has led a lot of people to be disappointed If they rerolled Mage thinking It would be absolute hot shit faceroll #1

I pugged a couple of easy keystones today, but I expect that'll be impossible above 4 or 5.

I am not big on WoW lore and stuff, and dont know much of it, but that quest where you are defending the place with Velen, and then you are fighting the main bad there, and Velen screams no and tells you to stop, because Velen realises that was his son, that shit was pretty sad

Here we go, this fucker.

Who else is /bestmount/ here?

I just wish I could sell the fucks on the AH

lw mount?

yee

>Dragons of Nightmare
That's it? kek

In SoO it was affliction and feral
In HFC it was arcane and sub
Right now its come combo of arms/combat/feral and fire

>Warlocks are shitting the bed because they aren't at the big boys table this time around
>Mages are complaining they're 'forced' to play fire
>Rogues are complaining that combats the best because ranking is based on rolls.

Meanwhile my top spec unholy is on the wrong side of average, frost is dead last, ret got cucked, ele shamans all killed themselves.

how did you get 800 lw? I'm stucked

How legit is this?

>people who party up for the FFA world objectives
Literal fags.

i play ele, it really isnt that bad, it's so simple/streamlined that you do closer to your simmed dps than harder/stricter classes

random heroic logs/legit

I am mad as a lock because NONE of the specs are competitive at all. At least all the pure DPS has 1 go-to spec, Warlock has fucking nothing at all.

>Alliance in charge of not being scum.

You can either play the roulette to get the rank 3 recipes that "only" take a stupid amount of leather/scales.
Or you can do what I did, make a million dreadleather belts and constantly farm blood of sarg for 3 days straight.

Just make sure you dont grind a recipe that requires fel leather. Shits fucking hard to come by

The first one sounds like Sylvanas to me. She died the first time to Arthas in WC3, then I think in one of the short stories she died again, and either one or multiple valkyr sacrificed themselves to bring her back.