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Why haven't you sided with Lucifer and his gay peacock horse?

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these grinding DLCs are the fucking worst, i cant stop farming in there
and now i have loki before the first dungeon and got a shitton of apps
send help

Anyone got a solution to the first vr mission?

Glad to see hard mode is actually hard this time around.

No one to blame but yourself

the one vs the pig?

Just survive
don't try to deal damage

iirc its mc boost then both demons heal and your parter heals the third member

do that until mc cant boost then just pass your turn and have the demons boost

>Guys, please help me stop myself from pouring mayonise on my cereal
Never take up smoking

Thanks.

PRAISE FLYNN

strength or dexterity for apocalypse>

>everyone loves flynn
I guess this would be annoying for anybody that hasn't got neutral in the orginal smt IV.

>Asashi ask me to do the thing
>I honestly have no idea what the fuck she is talking about
>"You know, the silly area scan with cubes and holograms"
I lold, silly asashi, you don't fit in this edgy world, you lost your way to Persona or something?

Probably

You start the game after he's filled the chalice with hope by doing all the hunter requests

that's why everybody's going "ahh shit it's mah boy Flynn!"

It's also why we don't get request the way we used to. Dude did them all already

Help, i instinctively set my stats to be balance, i did the same in smt IV until i got all the spells and decided to go magic, but hearf nanashi has shit MP, wat to do?

Strength is less of a hassle since with guns you will have to deal with bullets too.
For apocalypse, you should go 2 str-2 ag-1 luck most of the time. You need the agility so your attacks will connect more often early on.

rate my qt godslayer

Get mp boosting equipment whenever you can.
With sky high magic, Spirit/Energy drain will give you back lots of mp.
Make sure you get demon whispers to raise affinity with spells to cut down cost dramatically (Salvation, top tier spell can drop from 100 mp to 50)

How did you get so many incenses?
Is that a thing you het later ingame?

im guessing dlc quests

>awakened to crossdressing

My copy just came in yesterday
When do I get my rewards from playing IV and my pre-order bonus?

My copy of the game was destroyed before being delivered thanks to the riots in Charlotte.

I love the game so far but every fucking time I hear Nanashi say "Dogda" all I can think about is how much I miss Boroughs. Like its such a weird thing but its really killing the mood for me.

Guessing gay horse and Cleo are new? Don't remember seeing them in any of the PS2/nintendo games.

They've gone too far this time.

When you become an official hunter

Turn 1: Dia->MC, Rakukaja, Dia->Stonka
Turn 2: Rakukaja, Dia->MC, Dia->Stonka
Turn 3: Dia->MC, Rakukaja, Dia->Stonka
Turn 4: Attack, Attack, Tarunda
Turn 5: Attack

Gay horse was in P2

Addramelech was in Persona 1 and 2, different design.
Cleopatra is brand new

Pure balanced bro.

Why so many DLCs are "expired"?

thanks hermano

I'm gonna enjoy killing her. Oh her face will be just priceless.

>Lost my SMTIV cartridge for dumb reasons
There's a transfer bonus right? Any nice bonuses, or could I just skip redoing IV again?

They are not actually available yet

not officially out yet but on the cart

schedule is on the games website

>He thinks he can kill Asashi
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! He doesn't know...

>Look at this
>Look down at my 35, 30, 35, 35, 32 Nanashi

Brah

You should start minmaxing or else you will become merely a buff/healbot

Nigga I was told there was a route where I get to kill everyone. She is at the top of my hit list. Don't tell me I cant kill her.

Best redesign coming through

They knocked it out of the park with the art this time, which wasn't hard after IV...

>He doesn't fucking know
user, get out of this thread, quick.

I normally go full balance and turn the MC into a jack of all trades. So I'm never caught unable to hit a weakness to get extra turns for my other demons.

Dadga's design (coming from previous games and concept art) is also amazing

Yeah, this Odin actually fits in with Soul Hackers(?) Loki and Nocturne Thor.

free dlc apparently unlocks the level cap

It's not worth the hassle of replaying. You get bonus app points at the start and some street pass shit.

>Suddenly an old man starts talking to me smiling like a lunatic

This fucker is Loki right?

Close enough.

See

How far am i?
Im up to the part where im about finished up sealing the jars.

Wasn't Cleopatra a historical figure? Or is this one based on a cultural depiction instead of the actual one? Seems odd to not be classified as Famed.

Don't worry you will still be able to kill all your firends on that route.

Midway

Quick, panic rounds or red earring?

Panic Rounds

>King Frost
Well shit

Whats a good endgame STR skill set?
Im too attached to fang breaker/frenzy chomp to let them go.

>Finished Cosmic Egg
>Someone posted YHVH's dungeon
>See that shit
>Lose all motivation
Fucking hell why is this place so fucking convoluted?

Grab a spriggan

Spriggan
Asparas
Makara

Angel learns that skill that completely removes smirk.

I'm playing on War difficulty, and this shit is tough. I can't imagine how easy it is on normal.

>People actually unironically doing the grinding DLC quests for exp and money.

I don't mind the dick sucking because neutral was a pain in the ass to get in 4

Was digging around a bit and found that there's the regular low level Angel and a level 90~ one, what's up with that?

It's a bit of a chore, but the game always lets you know which door you have opened or not.
When there are more than 1 possible exits in a room, make a note somewhere ,like Brane 1(C area) to come back and check the rest.

It still takes a long time, but you can exhaust all options without running in circles.

Seriously, a piece of paper with such minimal notes will save your life

>back to back merkabah and lucifer fight

I assume she is the demon waifu of one of the directors, so she got reused.

Mother fucking Victory Cry saving me in those fights.

I'm more annoyed by his completely out of character voice.

The only real issue was that fucking Hexagram attack. All my demons had ebery drain at this point, and each boss has either Dekunda or Dekaja, not both.

My angle keeps saying "This throbbing is unbearable" the fuck is up?

If you mean after he gets taken by Krishna there's a good reason for that.

its gun digivolve

Evolution, son

oh yeah, shes got QUITE the "historical figure", heh heh. didn't think she was that fucking stacked and that hair makes me daimunds

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>First error gives me a demon I was already gonna make with other shitier demons

I feel so cheated right now.

I loved Odin's new design the moment I saw it.
I can fuse him eventually, right?

Turn off the vibrator

>error
what

Buy the res ice clothes.
Napaea learns resist ice, and Mermaid and Apsaras naturally resist it and also have good healing

Only 1 guy has to survive.

Fusion error.

He is level 85.
Special Fusion

Demon fusing error. Sometimes when you fuse you get a random demon. There are demons you can ONLY get through errors.

this game has sexist demon designs so i refuse to play it

I've never had that happen.

It's rare

across four games and hundreds of hours i've had it happen once

And there are like 8 demons available only through fusion accidents

I don't really try to catch 'em all or anything so I don't really care.

I've had it happen twice so far in IVA
I think I had it happen maybe once or twice in IV.

Which demons?
I had like 4 accidents over the past 30 hours.

The whole 'Famed' line.
Includes guys like Yoshitsune and Jeanne D'Arc.
I realized their existence when I fought Famed Hagen as a boss

Damn yo your unlucky I average 2 or 3 a play through.

>Famed line
Goddammit. I got a shitty chinese guy as the accident

>Generally, the chance of a fusion accident occurring is low (1/64), but fusing dead (0 HP) and/or Foul demons will increase the odds - each dead demon used increases the chance by 1/64, while including a Foul doubles the final chance, for a maximum chance of 6/64. When a fusion accident occurs, the result is typically within ~5 levels of what the normal result would have been, and the skill repertoire of the resultant demon is randomly selected from its default skills and its components' skills, except those of the Famed race, which are guaranteed to have their default skills. Most Famed race demons can only be created via fusion accident.

>tfw had a fusion accident in Persona 4 and got Loki early

>Unlocked conditions to fuse Beelzebub
>Not in the special fusion list unless I'm blind
>Didn't come up in the search
Dammit, how do I fuse this fucker?

I don't think of myself as unlucky because the one time it happened the demon I got was complete shit

total downgrade

You need to Special Fusion Baal first.

You must not have any of his components.
Fuse Baal first.

>had a fusion accident when trying to make Satan in P4 and ended up with this guy instead
Still mad

What Race?

>292 MP at level 30
how?

He is also a special fusion. Go a bit left

>Find spring of healing

Can I get the spirit of the spring as a demon I like her design.

What are the second and third words in that post

I don't remember SMT IV having MP incenses

Yo, fuck goblins. These guys are a pain to negotiate with,

Can I somehow tell my partners to NOT use their special max attack thing? They keep wasting it on shitters.

You're at a club and this guy slaps your girlfriends ass

What do you do?

I just had all my demons buff and let them die
Nanashi killed him by himself after that with Asahi keeping him healed

Wonder how can he slap

I usually try to arrange it so the last turn or so comes up to Nanashi, and if it doesn't look like I can wipe out the enemies then I'll just do a scout. If it goes bad then it doesn't trigger their turn blocker, and there's a chance I'll get a new demon out of it.

Call me boys in on this wanka

Please tell me Metatron is back

Mourn the seven hundred humans killed as completely avoidable collateral damage in the process of his slap

>war difficulty
>Shin Missgami Tensei
Atlus pls

SMT isn't as deep or as well designed as EO. Quit pretending this shit is hardcore and not just RNG. Please.

>Go on a fusion spree
>Skill inheritance
>Ehh I got enough demons that know this skill I don't need it
>Turns out I fused all the demons that knew the skill
>Now I have none left
>tfw ran the whole game up to endgame without a dedicated healer and didn't use Asahi or Isabeau
Although to be fair, Energy Drain is too fucking good. But I wish I had a demon that knew Samarecarm at some points. Especially at Vishy.
Also, Doping is amazing.

Was stuck on that for a bit and still can't forget the word DIE from that boss fight.

That nigga carried me through to the end of P4G, not like P4 was all that hard, but man he put work in.

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Ask him to smite me to Hell and torture me for a thousand years.

[bagpipes intensifies]

If you think he's tough then just wait till you hit the owlman of many hit rate debuffs

see

Who?

HEY KID WANNA KILL GODS AND STOP BEIN DEAD

NOW YER TAWKIN LOIK A REEL GAHDSLAYUR

Obviously meant for

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>hurr

The boat dude at the well dungeon

>mention EO
>hurr he's too dumb to use buffs
SMTkids are so silly.

>Guy says he keeps missing
>Tell him something to make him stop missing
>Hurr

You're at the shrine and this guy slaps ur god's ass what do you do

THEY CALL ME DANTE THE GOD SLAYER

GOT A NICE RING TO IT DONTCHA THINK

Call his mom.

Call his mama

What a mamas boy

His voice too is pretty fucking smooth, eeven while dying he barely loses his cool

That game would have been better if Vorgil had a smooth Irish accent

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Guys
Finish off Shesha
What happens if I press no?

Snek waifu

>a preteen fag kid with goofy hair fights demons and rebels against a cartoonishly evil bald authority figure
oh fuck

>No more Boroughs
>No more "Congratulations master"
>No more "I'm sensing a strong demon ahead"
>No more "Be careful"

The games just not the same. Now I just have an asshole bitching about everything I do.

can't handle a wurld of MOM

>fight King Frost
>watch Bufu Boys die a million times
>Roll in with Dwarf, Hua Po, and Makara
>Spam Agi and Head Smash
>?????
>Turn break's becue of baby mode limit break
>all smiles
>Oh no he's getting a turn and he has smirk.
>Magic Mirror
>Kills itself

Its funny that he tries to use the same curse on Nanashi he had used on Aleph and Dagda just tells him to shove it

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This theme is too good.

>No more make sure you bring more macca next time
>Mido is toned the fuck down

Disappointing

Her congratulations always came as mood wisplash, someone has that comic where isabeua is dead, hoy and good boy are in despair and flynn is brutally injured obly for her to go "congratulations in completing the quest!"

The fuck did they do to Mido?

They turned down his hammy voice a little.

>tfw an old man will never welcome you to the cathedral of shadows, where demons gather

Did the japs make a fusion calculator for this yet? I'm trying to get specific demons for special fusions and it's a pain in the ass.

Instead of WEEELCOOOOOOOME TO THE CATHEDRAL OF SHADOOOWS
WHERE DEMONS GATHEEER
It's welcome to the Cathedral of Shadows, where demons gather

>fenrir encounter
>remember anons talking about the cute throw bone dialogue
>get that dialogue
>it runs off
>next group has a fenrir in it
>toki murders it before combat

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>Lets shake hands as a sign of friendship
>Don't touch me with your filthy hand

sauce?

Is Mastema worth it? I really want to use him but >2 weaks

It shouldn't have run from her master in the first place

>Semen demon asks if I want to grope her
>Do it
>Says she'll cut my hand off as a souvenir and lights me on fire
It's just like real life

>About to fight the second boss in the Sky Tower
>Skogsra has pierce resist and wind dance
>Fusion fucks up
>Don't know how to fuse her

Now I'm getting charmed into fucking oblivion

>encounter Mermaid for the very first time.
>Fall in love.
O-oh. Jesus, not a single demon has ever caught my attention like this before.

Fuck, Dagda's voice is so great.

wait why are they using P4 Loki ?

Do it.

How the fuck do you beat the DLC bosses.

I just want to fuse Cleopatra

That design comes from Soul Hackers you retard

Because SMT is a Persona side series now.

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Same is in most SMT: Grind.

Dagda's better than gauntlet girl

>In order to go Massacre without any penalty you have to be an absolute dick to everyone
>Even though Massacre is objectively the best outcome by the end and not even a remotely edgy outcome
>Have to kill all your friends sans Isabeau and watch them break down before you kill them
>Even gives you an option to comfort them and apologise before you finish them off
>Navarre, Gaston, Hallelujah, and Toki's last words
>Plays Isabeau's battle theme while fighting them
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I didn't fucking ask for these feels Atlus.
The only part that rubbed me wrong was not being able to explain myself to everyone in front of the rock. Was kinda dumb.

>That fucking sound that plays when people mention YHVH

muh dick

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>Lewd Hunter: I'd like to come with Flynn, even just once.
What did she mean by this?

>the I hate god only because I'm not in charge route
>not edgy

That said I'll take any chance I get to kill Isabeau again.

I agree

he's cute

Shes shit. Couldn't keep her alive even long enough to level her once.

do NOT bully the isabeau

stop this meme

>she'll never get it since Flynn likes R63 Harambe

Wow I'm using two dead memes at once

Nah

Is there any demon you're having a hard time letting go right now? I swear King Frost has been a fantastic partner so far even after Sesha.

She resists everything that dungeon's boss shits out, a shame she's -5 with lightning spells or she could probably solo him

Go away, degenerate.

M8, I'm not gonna use her, I'm just permanently keeping her in my gauntlet. She is seriously gorgeous.

Ye.

The outcome, not the journey. Fucking Massacre is full on edge, with your puppet goddess and mind broken Flynn, but at the end of the day it's arguably the best outcome for everything. Hell, you can even pick non-edgy responses on Massacre, and Dagda was actually a good guy all along with good intentions.

>Gaston can skip order and immediately initiate a fight

Manga reader detected. Prepare top die

Can't find the cia without going to a shady site.
Google drive pr mega or bust.

Usually I have a demon or two hanging around longer solely because there's fuck-all to fuse it with to get decent results. I'll have zio/heal focused characters for example and everything he can become gets -3 zio and/or heal.

Then I tried internet streetpass fusion, which made things worse.

Whos the best phone buddy?

>Tico (Male)
>Tico (Female)
>Burroughs
>Dagda

NUMBAH WON

Dagda > Male > Burroughs > Female

Burroughs

>is best angel worth it
Why is that even a question?

Have a nice WHEEEEE

Not that one and pretty sure he killed her himself in that pic.

>It's a "Gaston uses up all your turns and you get wiped because you couldn't set up" episode.

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Wait, what penalities would you get if you don't do that?

>left with only one turn sometimes

Then again if I spread damage out he can wipe out 2-3 demons easily. I want to hate him but he saves me time

If you go massacre without setting yourself up as edgelord then Navarre steals all your shit
If you go peace after becoming edge incarnate then Dagda empties out your demon stocks

>not beefing up your waifu demon until she becomes a destroyer of worlds

Dagda, Burroughs is a close second

Do you have dungeons after the split to recover from this?

What? but we kill navarre, can't we get the stuff back?
And Dagda deletes only your demons on hand or all the compendium?

>2 fusion errors in the same session
>one gave me a slime
God damn it, Mido.

Hey kid, I bet you're reading this in my voice.

Oh, shit, translation is out already? How is it compared to SMT IV?

Female Tico was fun, sure she pretends to be a dumb bimbo but hey.

Because Final has more of a Persona ending than Persona 5

Nocturne is such a good game god damn

TV Tropes said that Toki's lewd dialogue at the pot of lust was heavely censored, is true?

Weird, le boat man never used debuffs on me.

No you lose all your items forever, not sure if he takes your equipment too though
Only the ones you have on hand

The only time this was literally viable was in Nocturne.

What the fuck is the source material for this.

It makes IV look like an alpha for this game.

I thought the same until I checked and saw that my entire party was -3 on hit rate
I think his ice attack debuffs you

she will always be my waifu

More balanced and more persona

No. It's the same, voiced moans and all.
You ever wanted to know how a 14 years old sounds like when she moans in ecstasy? Well that's as close as you're gonna get.

Oh, that was probably it.

>Answer boat mans question in a way that pleases Dagda
>He doesn't do anything while owlman gets buffed attacks

fuck you man

>The only time this was literally viable was in Nocturne.
As long as it had dia, you could use the same demon for almost all of Raidou 1's battles. I would know, since I used a Jack Frost for the whole game.

Still wishing this line was voiced.

youtube.com/watch?v=eyd51lvu3xw

Your waifu is an ugly as fuck fujo with a shitty haircut who looks nowhere near as attractive as fan art makes her out to be.

Had her with Absorb phys, Debilitate, Victory Cry and Tarukaja, she was plenty useful.
Raidou 2 let you keep anything you wanted till endgame.

Betatron is back as a level 98

ENOUGH

The scene is still there and voiced.

W-what?

Hee-ho version of Dagda when?

Answering in a way that made Navarre get pumped just gave me one pip of team attack meter while owlman buffed his attack
I think the proper answer is to just keep your mouth shut

After re-reading, if seems only the descriptions of what is happening to toki were toned down.

Thank fuck for the fusion app letting me make level 90+ stuff without having to grind past 84.

>all those voiced lines for Frosts

>try the internet fusion thing
>both times my level 30 ish demon becomes a centaur

fuck off neos

>thought Nikkari was going to be revealed as a Raidou Kuzunoha because of his cloak and sword
>he just dies like a bitch to gay donkey
fuck

That might be the point.
She congratulates you when you fucking destroy the universe in the way of white ending.

>Had expectations for the nobody characters who were obviously going to die at the start

what happened to his fucking arm?

I thought Burroughs hated the White. She dissed the fuck out of one of them during a boss fight right after a neutral alignment lock.
Must make her a great waifu if she always supports you.

A shit artist designed him.

Hoy.

Walter resides there.

>"A small break emerged when some of the unused designs for the demons and characters where revealed in the art-book. Namely that many of the rejected designs where meet with wide praise and raised questions as to why they where rejected in the first place. Some claim it is just how things turned out while other think that the developers tried to go for more "Persona" like designs instead of following the mythology like the rejected designs did. Others like the designs that did get used in game and enjoy them, but also tend to like the concept ones and see them as working better for future games."
What? what are these "unused designs"? someone has pics?

A good friend went full alignment.

tfw the artist is dead

>play through iv
>hey bro, want to release all of humanity from control of the gods and become the true messiah
>that sounds cool, go with it
>this sequel pops up
im not ok with this. its essentially a retcon
can i remedy this problem in game?

STOP SAYING WHERE WHEN YOU MEAN WERE

Faggot

I didn't write that, just copypasted it.

>Fighting Merkabah
>Flynn just tells everyone to charge him like a dickbag
>They actually listen
>Get smitten
>He keeps telling them to charge
>All while having this stupid fucking grin on his face
Fun.

The Neutral ending in IV is canon. It was canon even before Apocalypse was even a thing, as evidenced by the beginning of the game.

I miss those edits

>Its essentially a retcon
Bro do you even SMT? Its a multiverse I mean fuck SMT IV even shows you other timelines.

>Falling for the lies of The White
You fell for the lies of demons when they promised you power. You're no better than Law and Chaosfags.

Law end was the good end in SMT4. Nihilism end is for homos

>tfw I still like TMS#FE better but this is still so much better than the piece of shit SMT4 it's really fun

>tfw refusing this ass machine

nanashi's voice is so fucking silly, i lost my shit when i first heard his weapon swing grunts and even more when he falls from the waterfalls in kanda no yashiro

>implying
Stephen called Law Flynn in his failed protagonists boot camp DLC, along with "blown up" Hero and "got his shit kicked in by Lucifer" Hito. Can't remember which Aleph he called.

There is a Flynn that believed the White, this is him afterwards.

Are there really only two endings?

Just edge my shit up and Persona?

>Tried like 10 times to recruit her
>She finally just joins me for nothing out of pity
>Forget to save when I quit the game afterwards
God DAMNIT

I believe its, "died to Megido Ark" Aleph

When should I play the Mikado massacre and meeting up with the other protags DLC's?

There's early Law and Chaos endings if you're boring

Guys, help me with boat guy. Even with 3 demon with zionga he still kicks my ass.

Stephen is a stupid unclean faggot though completely buttmad that his shitty unclean town has to be wiped out.

Maybe if he used his cripple science magicks to close the fucking hellmouth and save Tokyo from the demon apocalypse

But no he's a fag.

Nuke him. Nuke them all. Save Mikado.

I wonder who could be behind this post

Take asahi with you,be sure to have demons with healing knowhow and healing or buff skills,really asahi saved my butt in that fight many times

>Nekomata uses macca beam

I'm stuck here as well. The problem is he has like three different party wide elemental hits and I dont have a combo of demons that isn't weak to one of them.

I fucking HATE the new smirk system. Me slapping his weakness should get rid of that shit.

If you're at least level 20 you can fuse that snake pot thing with something else (I forget what I used) to get Patrimpas with Zionga, who is resistant to ice and wind with a huge magic stat

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>it misses

>no more xylophones

What should I know going into devil summoner 2? It seems like a based game and I like the idea of demon fusion.

newfriends worst friends

are you literally deaf

Well my mc have rakukaja.
Well i still at lvl 19

>had 100k macca on me

Where do you get that outfit?

WHEN DO I GET THE BLACK CARD QUEST

>Well i still at lvl 19
You can make Hathor at level 18, which is resistant to ice and wind but weak to physical so it's a bit more of a crapshoot

Already have her.

>DLC cia doesn't work
WHY

All the 'Expired' DLC in the DLC menu is actually just not released yet, right?

>tfw when using Hathor for le trick boat owl
>Every time he hit her she had smirk on

Shit was intense.

Well then the best advice I could give is to go fight a couple hordes to get to 20 and make a Patrimpas with Zionga

wheres the cia/freeshop qr

I wanted to see Flynn rekt ass.

Instead he got captured like a bitch

This just irritates me the most.

Thank god my neutral run is canon in another universe.

Is your fault (nanashi) actually, by choosing to accept dadga's offer you cause a new chain of events.

Same as it was in EO2U, not out yet.

Is the average Angel supposed to be higher in power level than the average Demon in SMT lore?

How the fuck do I get to the Shibuya national park to fight the worm thing?
I've walked all Shibuya and I can't seem to find it.

Story-wise and gameplay wise it's up there with SJ and Nocturne. Honestly one of the best SMT.

Nobody?

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Slut

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>In apocalypse she's totally bottomless
MUH
U
H

It's out if you're a piratebro.

Piratebros got the game a week early and all the DLC a month early.

Paying for games doesn't pay.

Just play it nigga

Don't own EOU2, but I figured that was the case here. I appreciate the confirmation, thank you. I'll just have to keep an eye out for them moving forward.

Time to exit this thread, as even the handful of posts I've accidentally seen are chock full of people who apparently can't figure out how to use spoilers.

How do you get the Ginza shop membership?

Also all these dick jokes with Mara are making me hot and moist

>Apocalypse still uses the inferior titania
I will never stop of being mad for this.

>buying SMT4A on release
>not buying EO2U on release
shit taste

Finally each boss fight gets harder progressively instead of starting hard and becoming more and more easier until merkabah

UENO
E
N
O

That is Apocalypse. There are actually two different Angels in the game.

There's actually 2 Angels in Apocalypse. One is in leather bondage gear and is a high level while the other is bottomless and low level

>tfw celebration party goes horribly wrong
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Magic, sword or gun?

LUCK

All of them.

WRLD OF STR

>In 4's neutral, Nanashi had chosen to stay dead
>Asahi also fucking died
Sure puts a different perspective on things.

>Titan begs for mercy
>After slaughtering the innocent fairies and burning down their forest for shits and giggles

Someone, please tell me sparing him will help the fairies in some way. Give me one good reason I shouldn't make Titan suffer. My disgust levels are through the roof and I can't think logically.

Nanashi is a fucking faggot so he'd be dex or mag

Full support is the way to go. Your demons are your attacks and defenses.

So is str just a meme or did magic get nerfed because in smt4 magic was so much better it was disgusting

>merkabah
That fucker just straight up cheats.
>Oh, you've got a nice demon? FUCK YOU, it's instakilled.
>Tetrakarn? Suck my dick. Have 3 almighty attacks.
I don't understand why you fight Merkabah first in the neutral route. Lucifer is a joke in comparison.

I just ignored everyone when they beg for mercy.
I cant see a reason to let them live after they tried to rape my skrillrex ass.

Sparing him will give him an opportunity to rape you

>Sparring any of the divine powers
He's also just rusing you and just trying to get you to drop your guard.

STR got fixed. It affects skills now instead of just the basic attack.

They're just fairies bro. Come on. They don't even feel pain like humans do.

STR was literally broken in SMT4. It would only feed standard attack. Every attack skill worked off Dex.

STR is technically much better in 4A because they fixed that. Dex feeds shoot skills. STR feeds phys skills

World of MAG

How is a Luck build in this one guys? I know it's not and never was the best and most optimal and whatever but it was the one I had the most fun with in IV. How is it in this game, is it still doable, do I still get crits all day and Mudo/Hama insta-kills?

>ever falling for a demon's tricks

New Medusa was goddamn hilarious once you get a hit in when she tries to make you look at her eyes.

Nah, he channels the STRENGTH OF THE OISLES through his benefactor so he can be as STR as he wants.

Nozomi pls

Gaston pls

>that censor near the end of her fight
did the japs get something similar?

MAG is gr8 but I can see it becoming less and less viable as the cost of attacks/buffs go up. It feels like Victory Cry/Spirit Drain is fucking required on my demons because of how expensive skills are, luster candy, war cry, mediarama, ect.

>Magic
>Get options of six different elements
>Hama and mudo have been buffed to insanity
>Megido for instant random battles mid game onwards

>Sword or gun
>A sigle type, so if an enemy is strong/null you do fuck all
>Very very few enemies are weak to phys
>Pretty much sit with your thumb in your ass until you get pierce which is hyper late game

It was also censored like that in the JP version.

Exactly the same thing, with beep and all.

It also bleeped in the undub

Are elementals still used for rank up/down fusions?

>try out the undub for a bit before my cart arrives
>hear their voices
Goddamn it, after playing the entirety of IV with dubbed voices now I can't stand their jap ones, it's slightly distracting. Should I just go with the dub?

>tfw light and dark are finally viable and GOOD and don't insta kill you if a boss happens to have it
Making it instakill just on smirk is one of the greatest decissions this game made

I didn't find king frost that hard because i invested on LU, it really makes a difference this time
Balanced is best build

Im having fun with phys since i invested a shitload into that one chomp skill that causes bind/poison/charm and dark swords.
Its hilarious raping bosses who are open to ailments

JP voices
>no Irish accent for Dagda
ENG voices
>Irish accent for Dagda

The answer is pretty clear.

Do it lad, play the dub for your old m8 Dagda

I don't get why this series had this gay instakill shit for years. I just finished Soul Hackers and most of my deaths were just protag getting Mudowned randomly. Shit fucking design.

I know SMT isn't supposed to be lol so deep so hardcore hurr souls crap and it's random fun, but still. That's just tedious.

I just got to 200 mag and the bar turned blue, do stats cap at 200?

youtube.com/watch?v=kbqt8RLX54k
youtube.com/watch?v=vn1tTp9kP3g

anyone else here get the game from amazon?
i redeemed the second part of the promo code for the prime jacket but first part makes no sense
it doesnt fit in the code redeem box its 5 charactres too long to use

No. See

There are bosses vulnerable to ailments? I assumed in true SMT fashion that bind/charm/dizzy ect. would never apply so I go full buff/debuff for boss fights.

On the other hand by having only a single element focused on, you get it in all sorts of useful varieties, like phys attack + debuff, phys attack + status effects, phys attack multihit, etc. Also there's VERY VERY FEW enemies that outright null or reflect phys, most of them very late-game. Yeah it can be a little annoying when you run into something that resists it, but that's why you have 3 demons hanging out with you. And oh baby when you get that Pierce...

No. 200 is the soft cap.

Does anyone else actually like Nanashi more than Flynn?

>wiping out the 3rd horde of demons with a smirked hama
>big dumps of experience

Yes.
Thats why i had an easy time with king frost/viking guy compared to you casuals because im poisoning/binding their stupid ass

I liked Flynn's descriptions of relics much more.

Yes it was a comedic bleep

What are the must have apps?

GUYS WHERE THE FUCK CAN I FIND POWER THE RED ANGEL KNIGHT

Isabeau or Asahi?

Isabeau

Yeah the relic descriptions in 4A are super bland. I miss the goofy interpretations of modern-day objects by a medieval dude.

>ailments working on bosses in an SMT
Bullshit this isn't SMT. There's no strategy other than buff spam weaknesses.

Nanashi is in a much better game. They both look kinda gay though

Asahi
Apocalypse really does like to bully the fuck out of her.
Bobo is still pretty meh.

Prioritize demon expansion
Then your own skill expansion
If you're having trouble with the game, get the fusion cap increase--though raising too high will trivialize the game
Only increase stock when necessary
You may as well buy the first MP regen

Following this, you should always have enough points to stay on top of demon skill slots when the apps open up.

how do you use physical/gun demons in this game?

they have low mp and rarely anyone is weak to their attacks compared to mag demons that can exploit weaknesses easy

its like all my demons are magic all the time

>Monkey or Dog?
Neither.

...

Pop evasion buffs on them and use those high crit rate skills

>have high Luck
>spam Poison Sting
>crits4days
>everything gets poisoned

Neither to be honest but if I HAD to pick it would be Asahi just because shes a little more pushy and bossy.

I've yet to find a waifu in 4 or 4A.

They usually have enough MP to work with, and heavy dealing phys skills tend to work out fine. Really, the only time you'd have MP problems is if you stick on spells that they have no affinity for, hence why they usually have +3 or 4 in their melee or gun affinity.
Charge and Critical Eye also help.

Aight.

MarielX pls go and stay go

Physical skills also cost less MP
Physicals have cheaper multihit attacks and more likely to crit, giving you smirks.
Fang breaker is gr8 early game
Phys-Status is great for mobs.

In the JP version she says "my body is hot" shit but not in the localization

Isabeau isn't a monkey

Isabeau is utter shit.

Asahi isn't fuckable though. She's a qt little sis.

My own MC is DEX/MAG for flexibility. After that, I usually carry 1 demon who is outright WORLD OF MAG, another demon who is half support half MAG, and another demon who is half support half STR.

I mostly like having a balance and covering holes that I have with each other.

Who wants some wood splinters?

I want to give Dagda a sibling

Worth it

I did SMT IV with a Gun build and wrecked face with it.

I heard Dex got nerfed though, should I go Mag build?

>Peace has you calling out to him and trying to snap him out of it
>Massacre is just Dagda talking shit to Vishy about how Nanashi is way better than him and you actually kill Flynn outright

>milf

Okay, whatever you say, monkey lover.

Every single one of my demons has whatever -unda and -dyne moves I could fuse onto them organized willy nilly.

It feels kind of stupid and disorganized, but it pays off when I can have a whole team slamming weaknesses for four turns, then buffing the four press turns. For multiple bosses.

...

There's no way that will work forever in the long run. Someone is gonna makarakan and then just fuck your shit up.

Youre going to need doping and luster candy and some different types of moves eventually.

I would let her wreck me.

>filename
kek

That's when you hop down to skirmish for a fight.

>law fags
>not embracing chaos
Laughing every second. Be careful running down the carpeted stairs.

delete yourself. I refuse to believe people from Cred Forums actually do this.

>not using p5 loki

Besides the elemental skills, which skills are the must have in a MAG Build? right now i have concentrate+energy drain. Should i drop in a healing skill when i get the next skill slot?

And then you get to bosses that carry -karn breakers and that's that.
Honestly, Doping and Lustre Candy are really handy.

Does damage output scale with level, because I twice the amount of str than my phys demon, but I don't notice a real difference in damage output.

>you'll never have Dagda's voice
>you'll never fuck Toki
>you'll never fuck Pascal
>you'll never be Stephen

Dekaja

I got tired of the fucker guarding t he ark and I hopped down to skirmish. He had so many different party wide magic hits I didn't have any demon combination that wouldn't make him smirk. I was already level 25 too so it wasn't a case of "Let me grind this out."

My rule of thumb is ten losses. If I fail a boss ten times and it doesn't look like a level problem I just go easy mode.

chaosnigger kys

Well when they do that you then just get to cast megidoloan six times a turn. That's how it works, right?

Oh wait lol no that's only cuz Atlus couldn't balance post-game bosses lololol

Way to be a big baby bitch. Might as well stay on Skirmish. This is why single focus parties don't work.

I like this new Satan, even if he's not as blasphemous as the old one. I'll miss the titties.

Eh, it's SMT, a JRPG. It's not like it's Ninja Gaiden or something with real skill involved.

It never hurts to have media on your mc just in case. I'll probably go with the same skill set I ended IV with.
>Agidyne
>Bufudyne
>Ziodyne
>Zandyne
>Megidola
>Mediaharan
>Luster Candy
>Debilitate

Ehh its whatever. I'm mostly here for the story anyways.

>Turning it down to easy mode is almost exactly the same as playing on hard mode.
>Wow, why is this game so easy? There's no skill involved.

Okay.

At what levels do you unlock the skill expansion apps?

I haven't gotten another one in what seems like forever.

>Asahi isn't fuckable though
If you're a fag then sure.

>multiple heads
>four wings
>stigmata
???

Revelations, nigga.

25, 50, and 75.

Book of Revelation

>you'll never be Stephen
This so much. How can one cripple be so fucking based and stronk?
>made burroughs
>made ez demon waifu summoning program
>can wreck anyone's shit unless a bunch of heroes and strong demons team up on him for a hard fight
>while he fucking stands up on his own

This fucking guy

Okay I didn't expect this game to be good. I just wanna know some stuff

Is there gonna be more dungeons?( I'm back at the fairy forest again)
Hama and mudon work on boss When I'm smirking? (I think I killed boat man with Hama of the other one)??

Also demon negation in this one still boring compere to the other games, every demon just starts a topic and move to another after your answer there question.

No jokes of cool advise no one calling a failure??

Doujins fucking when?

there´s more dungeons, remember the size of the map of the original smt IV.

>WORK FOR ME KID
>DELETE THE UNCLEAN ONES
>MUH STR
>DELETE EVERYTHING
>do what you want, my man

Stephen really is the man

Asahi is attractive, but it's a little annoying that she's 15.

That's not the body of a 15 year old.

Can Str and Dex compete with Mag this time?

I was wondering this myse-

>50, and 75.

...

Ah I see

>Besides the elemental skills
kek. if you're going MAG just focus on light/dark/almighty. you don't have enough skill slots to cover every base.

Japan's putting out some good art, so maybe one day. SMT really doesn't get much attention doujin-wise unless it's Persona for obvious reasons.

Everyone but her, basically.

Bitch gets nommed by Krishna's snek.

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>get btfo by an angel of all things on how stupid you look
Being Asahi is suffering.

Str is endgame level. Otherwise yes, theyre all viable

The last dungeon in particular is reminiscent of SJ.

It feels like weighted training clothes at that point. 25 is early enough you don't really feel it, but getting the extra skill slot at 50 was a serious power moment for me.

What do you mean endgame level? Like its only good at endgame?

>but it's a little annoying that she's 15
Bro, they are angels and demons fucking up Tokyo's shit, I don't think those kinds of laws exist anymore. How else are you going to keep the human population from dwindling?

...

It's fine most of the game, but by endgame it gets really dumb if you go Str/Luk since you just start critting everything.

what do you consider when fusing demons? are skills the most important part or stat distribution? does race matter?

No, like it does the most damage endgame. Early to mid game youll be using it more like a status inducer, later on youll be packing enough heat to make satan blush.

By fucking the myriad grown women that seem to be fucking everywhere.

I definitely wouldn't want to be pedoscum when the little girl has a father, mother, brother, or even just an acquaintance that happens to be a hunter with access to powerful demons.

>inb4 pedoscum has demons

Like a child predator is man enough to wrestle anything better than a sukudama into his thrall

Stat distribution is the only thing that matters.

Skill passing is nice and streamlined, so everything you want should have already been worked into it. That being said, stat distribution is important because having a MAG demon turn into a STR demon with low MAG, it's obviously going to suck.

Also important, but not as important to me personally are the affinity levels.

Is it worth to keep evolving the angel line? im at virtue and he fuses into some cool shit.

Register him in your compendium, fuse him, and then re-summon him. It's not hard.

Goes all the way to Cherub IIRC.

All you need is that first demon to get the ball rolling.

That point about demon negotiation isn't even true, they fixed that from IV

I look at whats most powerful and get it. Thats about it. I try to make it so EVERY demon has a healing skill and then I just fill them up with as many different kinds of magic on them as possible.

man i think this game and persona Q have one of the best fusion systems

Having played IV before Nocturne (Even though SJ was my first game), it really fucking spoiled me.

Nocturne's fusion system is garbage.

Black card when/where/how

Shit, I'm already level 75

>tell a demon I want to marry her
>tells me to swear my eternal love in her stomach
Kinky

>Falling in love with a demon

One more level

>love
>with a demon
You misunderstand me, but probably not smtg

I guess I haven't meet any demon that said anything interesting yet.


Also what happened to the side quests with stories? This game seems to have none? They were the best part of iv imo

Why do you dumb Americans always get Scottish and Irish confused? They have very noticeably different accents, which you should apprently know considering places like Boston frequently proclaim how much more Irish they are than Ireland.

Flynn did all of em.

There is one that I can remember off the top of my head. It just takes awhile to come back. It started with the ghosts in the Tokyo Dome.

There are 2 I believe.
Maybe 3.

how come we have 2 angels now?

So how do I get the black version of the Nanashi's original outfit?

...

Why are all the armors you can buy so fucking goofy?

I think you have to hit the soft cap for Magic. At least, that's how I got mine. I think.

>stuck with one outfit so much because the other shit was handegg uniforms and hazmat suits.

>OHKOing a horde with a smirked Hama

The hazmat suit looked so fucking stupid I almost didn't buy it. But I'm a filthy min maxer.

Fairy Queen.

Makes sense

At least it better then nothing

Do you think Isabeau would fantasise about Flynn getting fucked by Walter or Jonathan?

Well Cred Forums, top half of the body or bottom half?

Why did this have to come out the same time as DQ VII?

Every early outfit was or is stupid. Even in 4 I spent most of the time using the Black Demonica until I pirated the DLC and got the Green Ranger and the demon armor.

She probably wrote various stories herself.

Bottom half

New to the series, how do you guys usually build your parties? Do you have one demon devoted to a specific element? One with most of the healing skills? One physical? Or do you just spread the abilities out?

>go on online exchange for cards
>all those outfits on endgame japs
>stuck on Hazmat for now
>Pyro is too silly

>get War Cry
>65 SP

WHAT

did it always used to cost so much

Yeah. nah you gotta die.

No, it was 45.

doesn't really matter too much, as long as your demons have fairly quality skills overall

i typically have MC as an offensive powerhouse, a support demon with some heal spells and buffs, and then your other two demons can be whatever. honestly if you slap 2-3 elemental skills on each demon and then anything else that seems good, you are fine for basically the majority of the game

>talks lewdly to femdom demon girl
>Calls me wicked and fuck off
>Try to talk another one in a different battle
>Says she was waiting for me, cannot resist anymore and forces herself into my party
I am starting to understand that guy from SJ.

>To escape them one must keep running, throw some garment such as a shoe behind you, and tell it that "it's your mother." This will make the Ubu to stop chasing someone.

Mythology is the funniest shit.

Is it worth sinking 100 SP into the Party Wide SP Regeneration app? Does it apply level 2 of the SP regen app to all my demons, or the level 1 version?

Right now I have Energy Drain on all my main demons just because I'm a MAGfag and everything costs so much goddamn SP in this game

>Demons can recognise you from past conversation
It's pretty cool

I play somewhat haphazardly. Spread out elements. Just6 pick what's good. I feel like -pleromas aren't that good till late game.
But keep it balanced in the way that you always want to have at least one phys- demon
And you want to have at least one buff/defuff on each demon, for bosses. Having a tetrakarn or makakarn for bosses can be hilarious as well.

Prioritizing Healing Knowhow will prevent you from needing dedicated healing/patra/posmudi, and you can get it relatively early with one of the fairies if memory serves right. If you run with Asahi as your partner, you can sustain yourself pretty well.

I also like victory cry/spirit drain so you don't run out of MP for attacks like judgement and Megidolaon, but really you could just switch in demons

It's actually really handy for the final dungeon.

Upgrading skills actually matter now, for you and your demons.

>put hamaon/mudoon and at least two elements on each demon
>get at least one smirk each round
???
>profit

>Abe has trouble breaking in his demons
>their dialogue and voices

Oddly enough seeing Asahi mess up commands for her pixie reminded me of the whole loyalty system in Devil Summoner.

what are the medals like

>Filename
You're aight user.

Where is yaesu passage?

connected to tokyo station which is connected to ginza

True world of STR/10

>power 67
Buy a new weapon already