WoW Legion

Pretty obvious it's Sylvanas.

How the fuck can you people stand to stomach this shit anymore?

I decided to resubb this week and all the memes about the game being Nu-WoW is completely true. EVEN THE FUCKING STORY IS SHIT WHY ARE YOU DISCUSSING THIS FUCKING GARBAGE?

ALL OF THE BLIZZARD ORIGINAL FOUNDERS LEFT

LET.
IT.
GO.

>mfw all the hidden shit underwater in Legion

Blizzard fucking nails underwater/deep sea themes, and everyone who hates Vashj'ir deserves the LFR retards they're forced to raid with.

Does the Demonology skull have any special whispers for the EN raid? This is important?

>People trusting an Old God dagger

It'll be more islands. Kul'Tiras and Kezan, etc

Kael'thas going over to the Legion is a fucking retarded twist forever. Now the Sunstrider line is done and Blood Elf relevance is also pretty much done. Despite Blood Elf being the most popular Horde race.

Maybe, but she already died three times in Cata. They're a bit overdue

3?

How is WoW these days? Some friends are inviting me to come back and I'm not sure if I should. How are Monk and Demon Hunter? How good/viable are the other classes?

Killed by Arthas, jumps off ICC, gets shot in the face by Swaglord "two goddamn pistols" Godfrey

Thought it was only twice when Greymane shot her.

Guys, my only 110 is Warlock fairly freshly 110 too and PTR 7.1 doesn't look too promising either.
It feels awful to play in every aspect, and I hate evety change but the perma-corruption talent, but I love the theme, hall and artifacts Plus he was my main throughout WoD and I've invested a lot of into him

Do I stick out the pain and hope for a good 'Balance Patch' a few months away, or switch?
If switch, what to?

Godfrey, my bad.

Oh right, ICC.

...

She died once when Arthas slayed her and once when she jumped off a mountain after killing him and losing purpose.

Play destro for now, affliction is broken garbage; demo is usable but the ramp up makes it more limited, destro is pretty much completely fine, not a top DPS spec, but it is fine.

And here we see the nostcuck in his natural habitat: the legion threads

Its all WoD fags nothing changed the old community isn't back.
Look and see all of the "Should I play WoW" threads. Its a massive influx of new fags after the movie which was blizzards goal. To round up a brand new audience.

>Muh nost boogeyman
You realize all the vanilla fags fucked off to Kronos and are playing right now right?

>Pre-launch event similar to Cata's
>Jaina replaces Deathwing, flies around the world freezing everything

>jumps off ICC

what

Afflock's the only spec I enjoy though.
Except for the artifact, of course.

I hate the RNG aspect of Destro far, far too much, both on the damage easpect, as well as shard generation.
I also refuse to use permamently summoned demons (such as imps or dogs) in any spec but Demo.

I hate Demo with a passion.
The only thing about Warlocks that I hate more than Demo, is the disappointment about how good Demo COULD have been.

It's more super important book only lore, after Arthas is killed, Sylvanas feels she has no purpose and commits sudoku, she then goes to hell and realizes it really fucking sucks in there and the Valkyr offer her a way out.

Probably another retcon book

It's a short story on the website.

You probably shouldn't unless you have a stable income and a lot of free time.

>people are gonna start drawing r34 of jaina being gangbanged by old gods/void lords

Shit and over used shit.

Also Shit Balancing is a massive fucking joke now. Don't fall for the legion meme every class plays like a MOBA character now 4 button rotations.

>has no purpose
did the writers forget about taking care of the Forsaken and securing a future for them?
fuckin' retards I swear

Could be Sylvanas.

>check out brewfest because I saw there was a new toy
>700 coins worth of new toy I don't have

Jesus this is going to take a little effort...I wonder how many characters I'll need for this.

>not looking forward to Ysera corruption porn

She never gave a shit about the Forsaken, they were the means to an end about killing Arthas. Arthas died and she realized she had nothing left to live for and threw herself off ICC, after she died the Valkyr showed her the fate of the Forsaken at the hands of Garrosh. They were basically used as fodder in the Gilnean war until their were no more remaining.

Between that and the threat of the shadowlands (hell) she finally decided to step up and be a leader for the Forsaken.

Are there any special things/events tied to your artifact weapons?
You know, things like if you land in Valdisdall, the flight master will comment on your prot warrior shield, the blacksmith on your MM bow.
I also know there's a Troll in the Dalaran inn who warns you about the Dreadblades your outlaw is carrying and the guards of Thunder Totem will salute you when you're carrying Talonclaw.
There's also wild Worgen in Val'Sharah which balance druids may heal with their Scythe for some AP and I've witnessed the Dalaran blacksmith empower the sword of a fire mage.
Not to forget the first boss of DHT who comments on the druid in your group.
There surely are more, please tell me what you've witnessed.

>stable income
Not a problem
>a lot of free time
I kinda have that but I tend to cycle/not stick to some games for an extensive period.

>every class plays like a MOBA character now
Well that blows.

old gods have proven to be useful sources of exposition, with the exception of c'thun, whose spooky whispers were more tasteful

Then that would be admitting that most of Nost was bots since Kronos doesn't have near a quarter of Nosts userbase....but you said all of them.

>all the build up to make Jaina evil
>She ends up being the one character who doesn't go full on evil
>"Fucking SJWs!"

>good player
>never mess up
>on the floor on successful progressions kills
Come on, healers.

>not including the best leak

Baine becomes warchief

Not artifact but a random night elf npc said '(name)... What happened to you?' as a demon hunter, like he knew me before i became one.

That was kinda interesting..

>>every class plays like a MOBA character now

He's lying. Only Demon Hunters have little buttons. Some specs have too much fucking buttons and aren't fun because of it.

People will try to say
>HURRRR BLOAT CLASSES IN VANILLA WITH USELESS SKILLS LMAO
Which isn't the point at all it was that you used those skills to CC because the game actually was CHALLENGING

Emerald Nightmare raid just launched yesterday and a bunch of people who worried about it said it was actually insanely easy and felt incredibly underwhelming like Blizz is purposely making the raid retarded easy and that it doesn't get hard until around the 4th boss in Mythic and even then its just a DPS check.

Game is fucking garbage and I highly wish the shills would fuck off back to their WoW general on vg because as much as they say its cancer its where they belong.

Dreadblades grant a stacking movement buff when they taste humanoid blood and allow you to track treasures on the minimap. Kingslayers allow you to mount up while stealthed.

The class with the least amount of buttons still has 14 required spells to achieve their top DPS, ignore this shitter.

>There are hundreds of world quests so you won't see the same ones often.
What did they mean by this?

you cant even do mythic yet

>every class plays like a MOBA character now 4 button rotations
Oh yeah, vanilla never had that.

>did the writers forget about taking care of the Forsaken and securing a future for them?

That story was the first instance of her ever caring about the Forsaken since she realized she didn't want to die. Before that she never cared.

Meant to say Heroic.

>warlock are shit

Why? I wouldn't be so mad if at least 1 of their specs was good.

>Be healer or tank
>have a set of spells that you can use to react to different situations while balancing your resources.
>Be DPS
>Roll face across the keyboard, dont stand in the fire, link DPS meters if you're on top. Make excuses if you arent

Why do people like DPS again?

Light's Wrath gets comments from the scarlet clerics in Dalaran and has the random chance to become "overloaded with light" making your next Light's Wrath hit for like 4 Million base damage.

Shadow Priest knife that talks

Holy got a glowball on a stick.

World Quests are the same for all characters and all players you fucking idiot. They didn't mean you'll only see the quest on one of your toons.

The game was not challenging. Itemization was backwards and a lot of gear didn't actually matter. People used to be retarded and played at 10 fps.

FINALLY pugged out normal NE

Sylvanus has never once cared about the Forsaken and their continued survival has always been a means to an end for Sylvanus. Prior to ICC that end was revenge. After ICC that end is becoming immortal.

AND SO HAVE I

See this faggot proving my point that the raid is so fucking piss easy he managed to PUG it completely week 1.

Some hostile storm elementals in Stormhein turned friendly when I had the Elemental artifact

Whats your point? You get the same ones every day champ

You can't do anything beyond normal yet you fucking moron.

And all classes still retain utility like CC. In fact, they made CC and stuns better in that they still have use on mobs that are immune.

You're just talking out of your ass because you hate the game now yet spend all of your time reading about it and posting about it to try and get everyone to agree with you and move on because you can't stand the idea people are playing it and not joining you in letting it rot.

>"You will drown in your own blood, this world will burn!"
>Not overtly evil
wew lad.

Yeah, fuck videogame threads on Cred Forums. This is the meme board, if you wanna talk about games go to /vg/. Out of all the threads on Cred Forums I'm being forced to constantly post in and read WoW threads and it's pissing me off.

>PTR doesn't exist
Kill yourself shill.

Are subscriber numbers still dropping bros? Thought I could get back into wow again but I hope it's not a fucking wasteland

Normal has been easymode since MoP. Heroic is the new Normal and Mythic is the new Heroic.

Every raid since Mythic was introduced has been cleaned on normal pretty fast.

Quit talking out of your ass.

The quests rotate out after 3 days.

>look people are clearing it too fast!
>you can't even do some of them
>no heroic kills yet, let alone mythic
>uhh PTR testing with flasks that make your ilevel and stats up for testing the encounters show it's easy.....

Just leave.

Game has been "dead" since 2004

> Despite Blood Elf being the most popular Horde race

I heard you twirl as you said that

>Ha fucking REKT this piece of shit now has BLOAT tiers

Kill yourself already shill.

They're not going to post subscription numbers, even if they did go up (which they probably didn't).

That said my server has been Full everyday since the second day of launch, so if you're on a High pop server it won't be a wasteland. I suspect everyone's been transferring to them which is why it's Full now, so most servers are probably graves except those ones.

Wait til Eredar are on the horde :^)

>PTR

Which never has you doing it at progression. You get statted tabards (or flasks this time) to test mechanics you dumb shit. Mythic wasn't even available on PTR for the last 4 encounters.

Nevermind your original argument was people completing it too fast, which is wrong because the Heroic and Mythic haven't and PTR is scheduled testing periods.

>Flask don't exist on live
Kill yourself already shill.

PTR raid testing is having the encounters open for only a few hours and you get flasks to put you at ilevel for completing that raid.

They're going to complete those encounters fast because they're timed and for mechanic feedback you dumbfuck.

>It's easier for people who just want to chill.
>It's a chill position to be in and takes off the edge, even in mythic raiding guilds.
>It has HUGE potential for self-gratification
>gives a sense of accomplishment too see yourself at the top of the DPS meters
>it births a competitive spirit in a PvE environment.

Is it a shit easy role most of the time? Yes. Is it a fun and crucial part for a lot of fights? Yes.

>LEAVE WoW ALONE
> ITS NOT SHIT ITS NOT ITS NOT ITS NOT ITS NOT

Holy fuck calm down you fucking manchild no one is taking your shitty game away and no one wants to go back to it when better alternatives exist.

>I know all about this games current content and how it's bad because these reasons
>get told that's not how the game works, so you're wrong and talking out of your ass
>HAH THE GAME HAS USELESS DIFFICULTY LEVELS, BTFO!

I dunno. If you're not going to bother addressing the fact you're saying objectively wrong things, you could always try telling me to kill myself again.

>be DPS
>have to waste money on flasks and food in preparation
>autistically mash buttons like a monkey because every second spent not mashing them is lost DPS
>have to pray to gods RNG is on your side so your damage is sufficient
>have to constantly compete in eternal dick measuring contest of whom rolls the dice better
>have to constantly be under pressure that if your numbers are not high enough and you might get the boot
>have to constantly compete with hundreds other people for spots and gear

>be healer/tank
>hurr durr
>click buttens
>get all the praise and gear automatically

There really aren't any alternatives anymore, they're all shit now.

What is the most fun healer? Never healed before and I've always been interested in it but I just never made the jump.

Game is easy now fuck off back to your facebook missions and diablo 3 dailies.

>explain how what you said is inaccurate
>move the goalposts
so if you don't even play the game why are you so invested in keeping up with how it's shit?

So am I able to RAF myself, have both accounts linked and leech heirlooms and mounts from my main account on RAF account?

>Tell you how I'm right that you simply reiterated my point of there being to many tiers now all of which are still piss easy since all you need to do is farm LFR, Normal/Heroic/Mythic at the same time to steam roll

gee I don't know

>talk completely out of your ass and keep telling people to kill themselves
>get told how you literally don't know what you're talking about over systems that have been in for over half a decade
>gee maybe you guys should calm down

I don't understand why you're posting in this thread then.

any pre-BC sources on her explicitly 'not caring' about the Forsaken aside from using them as an instrument of revenge?

I UNAPOLOGETICALLY loved Vashj'r. If they make another zone where I always feel like I'm going to die, where my friends will abandon me, where my heart will explode, where the terrifying things the go glub glub in the darkness are just out of sight, I will love it forever.

The Flaskataur Flasks that specifically alter your ilevel and stats per raid encounter do not exist on live.

The Flaskataur NPC does not exist on live.

PTR testing has been like this since Wrath.

That would actually be pretty fucking cool.

Not the ones used for PTR testing.

Anyone else /casual/ here? My friend, brother and I just hit 810 ilvl and are doing heroics together. It's fun tanking.

>You can't alter your ilvl with gear and stats with flask

They are both the same shit besides the idea of a flask just giving it to you all at once. Fuck off already with your retardation shill.

Who /Shadow/ here?

She died for the third time when Ashbury or whoever the fuck killed her in Castel von Werevulf.

If they actually pull the corrupted crap with Jaina I'm going to be so fucking disappointed. Cant have someone in warcraft lore getting pissed without them getting corrupted can we?

Does Sylvanas care about anything? She hates Night Elves, she hates Blood Elves, she hates Forsaken.

Why is she such a bitch?

So because its post BC its no longer allowed? When the fuck did she ever express any care for the forsaken other than "I can use these zombies to kill arthas for killing me"

Because you can't do them all at the same time? Of the difficulties you listed over half aren't in the game.

The raid difficulty that has been the main progression that has existed since Burning Crusade has yet to be accessed.

The Normal easy mode is going to be easier, and does not give you equal gear to actually raiding.

She does now, she just didn't back then

LFR is piss easy, also not available for two weeks and even then only limited wings.
Normal is easy and the only one accessible.

Heroic and Mythic are the old Normal and Heroic and the actual profession.

You can't farm them because they're not unlocked outside of Normal.

Alright I'm going to bed shill try not to stay up to late damage controlling

soup

seems like a silly retcon to make her Maeiv 2.0

Old God faction when?

That was not your point. You said people were clearing raids too easy and said it's easy to breeze up to the 4th boss on mythic, which isn't possible.

Normal does not give you equivalent gear to actual raiding. You do not have them all on farm because there's no point in farming LFR or Normal for inferior gear beyond transmog gear. You don't do LFR if you're progression because the gear is worse than Normal despite coming later.

>no Warden xmog yet

If you're a destro lock the flightmaster at felblaze ingress says you reek of fel and Tehd makes fun of you one of the times you meet him. As if being a warlock in Legion didn't suck enough already

Raid lockouts don't work that way.

It also wasn't your point. You said it's easy till you get to the 4th boss on mythic which is objectively false and not even possible.

Tehd is great.

She was Maiev before Maiev, if anything Maiev is a ripoff of her.

>No Warden third spec for DH

>IT HASN'T HAPPENED (yet) THUS ITS IMPOSSIBLE

It will happen and I will be right and you faggots will stay subbed the entire time just like you did with WoD.

When are worgen going to get new animations. This is painful, Blizzard.

The PTR flasks are LITERALLY cheat items for testing. They raise a character at any level to the level needed for that fight.

You cannot get anything on live even remotely similar to the literal cheat items that were available on PTR.

This is how they have tested raids since Wrath. There they used statted tabards. You can get tabards in the game, but you cannot get cheat tabards with millions of stats.

You're being too obvious.

Anyone maining Destro/Afflock here?

Am I seriously gimping myself for singletarget if I don't use the imp/dog pet?
A little DPS loss I can handle, but is it a serious DPS loss?

I hate using demons

Pretty much.

Tanking is such an easy role that I laugh when I see people talking shit about DPS.

And yet people respond.

the night elf campaign is before the undead campaign in TFT where you meet undead Sylvanas
NICE TRY

If you mean you're obviously being retarded that you don't realize that grinding gear is part of the game and you can attain the minimum requirement with just gear then yes you are retarded.

Work on your reading comprehension.

No, PTR Flaskataur flasks are cheat items tailored per encounter. They are not in-game flasks. This is how they've tested PVP and raid encounters forever, so at this point you have to be trolling.

Garrosh didn't really get corrupted if you think about it.

He just went from angry to more angry.

Go resto shaman. Lots of utility and useful group healing.

imp is practically invisible dude, just turn on shoot-your-target and you ignore him forever

warlock is just unfun though--reroll before it's too late

With my closing notes

>You faggots will defend blizzard to the death
>You will always be a blizzdrone
>You will be back for every Xpack
>And you will keep your sub active for another content drought

peace.

The flasks you get on PTR for the encounter testing are cheat items.

>MFW YFW

What sort of DPS is needed for mythic dungeons? I can do 170k single target but I worry people will want more and I haven't done one before.

It's not the looks of the Imp, it's the idea; I'm not a Demonologist, why is a demon a major source of my damage?

But what should I reroll to?
Been thinking of rerolling for a while, but I can't really settle on anything.

170k is more than enough
I do 185K at 843 as a warlock and I've only been kicked once for sucking at trash.

Way more than enough
Honestly guys people don't really give a fuck about DPS unless you're doing less than the tank.
Just don't fuck up and no-one cares.

Worry about the couple of mechanics and it will be fine. Mythic dungeons are the new heroics.

obviously mage because you seem to want to be a non-demonologist which is equal to a caster without a pet
or druid if you want more options

Technically he was following the visions of y'shaarj, and absorbed and used its powers during his encounter, but he came out of it alright.

Thanks mate, although I tried Mage:

Frost is fun, but takes a while to kill things.

Fire never clicked.

Arcane is boring and underwhelming, but witha cool artifact.

How's Balance Druid?

More dps and better gear only serve to make the fights go faster and reducing the chance of retards fucking up so bad it's a wipe.
I've jumped in as vengeance with an unupgraded artifact and lazy ass shitter guildies who can't even be bothered to spec into momentum and still done them with hardly any issues.

I main Prot Pally and have a disc priest alt.
Planning on having a DPS alt fpr funsies. What class? Meele or ranged?
What's a good class to get started in PvP?

Get one to 20 and find out.

>why is a demon a major source of my damage?
Because you're a fucking warlock.But yes, you don't even notice the imp being there anyway.
Go mage if you want a caster without a pet. Or just spec GoSac

what said.

They added Cross-Realm-Zoning.

its been in the game for awhile now and it basically mashes up multiple servers so every zone is almost always brimming with players. this helps blizzard hide their subs too, you will never truly know how shit your Server cluster is unless you actually never see anyone ever.

Alright. I guess i'll try one tomorrow when I wake up. Just feels like I hit a DPS ceiling without jumping into mythics at level 834. I feel like i'm playing UH DK correctly, though.

>834
Mythics are like, 815-820 to be adequate.

What period of time are you talking about? All she fuckin talks about in that forsaken starter questline is her people and rejuvenating the Forsaken via corpses of the dead which is when Angry McOrcLarge calls her a bitch and puts a stop to it.

Are you talking prior to this?

>escapes corruption even though all the druid and priests say it's impossible without killing you

He was the warchief the Horde needed but didn't deserve.

I hope all the haters who made Blizz rewrite him into a villain are happy with Batshit Banshee as their leader now.

Melee have an easier time but some raid mechanics discourage stacking a lot of melee together.

>PvP
Melee. Probably Meme Hunter.

>tfw alchemist/rogue
>tfw you can poison the first boss in court of stars by interacting with his flask
>he just gets to 30% then runs to drink it and immediately dies

Wasn't expecting it to be that effective.

I have one at 100, but stupidly I chose the Guardian artifact and I'm stuck with it for two levels and half a zone.

Yes, I'm a Warlock; I covet power, i seek power, I AM power.
I am not my demon, I should not be neutered without my demon, I shouldn't need my demon to be an evil wizard.
GrimSac sucks compared to WoD.

I'm staring a Frost DK because I've always had a soft spot for them, and don't really care about min-maxing (no intention to raid). When will Blizz buff them? Any tips on suffering well?

I'm not following the story too closely, but why is Cenarius okay after you beat him but had to kill the cat Archdruid, Ysera, and all the rest?

AN ILLUSION?

How many people do you need for Nithogg?

there's always the shitty green weapons they sell in the hall

>Why is a demigod better able to survive corruption than a mortal?
These are tough questions to which we may never know the answers.

>stuck with it for two levels and half a zone
You can buy 740 green weapons from a vendor in the class hall.

idk, we did it with like 30 people like this--probably can do with much less with geared people
just don't stand in obvious fire

Demigods are part mortal. Would it really make a difference to kill him when he just comes back anyway?

Not many. I was passing by a group of 5 or 6 and tagged it at level 100. It was fine.

Oh yeah, forgot about those.
Thanks guys.
How IS Balance anyways?
Fun for questing and/or PvE content?

it's alright

>caring about Warcrafts story after WC3/The Frozen Throne

Fun/efficient?
Or just kind of average across the board?

Should I go for Feral instead?

>caring about anything warcraft related at all after WC3/The Frozen Throne

Did I miss something with Xavius?
Why did he turn into a fat Kiss reject?
Please tell me the mythic fight has more story in it than "fight him, whoops everything's cured".

gettin' PUMPED over here

It's about Azeroth you cunt

Has Azeroth technically died, though? We know it has been wounded with plucking Y'shaarj out/WoE type stuff and Cata, but has it really died, if even in the metaphorical sense?

he's double downing on corruption, using old god and demon juice
well that'd be a massive buzzkill with all the hype they're building for her

What should I play as an alt to my spreist which im starting to not like anymore.

]I don't have any other characters at 110 but there isnt much to do on my spriest outside WQ and waiting for artifact knowledge to go up since I'm already at 2 gold traits. I used to main Frost DK but that spec is a joke now.

Really don't care much between dps or tank, but I've never healed raids before so I'm not sure If it is fun or not.

I'm looking for another class to play. I am a simple man, I just want to play things that feel and look awesome.

My main is an Enhancement Shaman because I love to call down the elements and every hit is so meaty.

I have an alt that's a Discipline Priest because I really dig the mechanic of healing through dealing damage, and it's also quite fun to play, if a bit more subtle.

I love the ideas and themes behind the Warlock, but apparently they're total shit or something? Should this be something I actually care about?

Other things i've tried are the Outlaw Rogue which actually confused me between the rotations of my shaman and the rogue, ending up using wrong abilities at the wrong time. so I scrapped that one.

I've heard good things about mage but i'm not entirely certain.

Hunters need more oomph to their gun/shots for me to care about them. I should be hearing loud satisfying bangs coming out of guns. What happened to that?

So yeah. tl;dr. Easily entertained man looking to play new class. New class should look and feel awesome to play.

>Wave fel-infused dick in the face of a Draenei chick.
What would happen?

Warlocks always look awesome, but currently they feel awful to play, and their damage isn't great so questing takes a while.

These may get fixed in a patch or two, but currently I would recommend DemonHunter or Death Knight for a good mix of aesthetics and Oomph.
Just don't go Frost.

>c'thun tells me me fuckin hearts gonna explode
>girl ive been with since we was cabbages fuckin dumps me for some sorry cunt
>that fuckin slagwitch c'thun was right

Why don't you like Spriest?

>DPS
macro everything, be top of the dps meter

>tank
macro basic attacks, have to keep alert if adds pop up or you NEED to use a trinklet/cooldown

>healer
most stressful job of them all, every second is a potential player getting killed, having DPS´es standing in shit and then complain about dieing doesnt help

every class waste money of flasks and food btw you twat, ive been in endgame guilds and DPS is the most braindead and chill playstile of em all

It's just really boring until the boss hits 35% so I can pop S2M and the spec being reliant on that talent to be relevant dps is kind of off putting. Not to mention the extreme focus blizzard seems to be putting on add and high movement fights really hurts spriest.

Also having probably the worst aoe in the game right now is going to make it hard to do m+

Really considering between a warrior(would be fresh level 1), Paladin(prot, have one a 101) or Rogue(have one at 87).

Shame blizzard raped destro locks because they were fucking fun back in mop.

This is pretty much why I'm not playing Shadow Priest even though I love the old god flavor of the spec and launching ghosts at enemies. S2M just seem really fucking awful due to the fact if you don't go it and it's not currently in use, you're doing shit damage and you can be replaced by literally every other DPS AND there is absolutely no other talents at 100 that even comes close to the benefit S2M gives you.

It's only her second death as an undead. Maybe Blizzard forgot she was living first?

boohoo. Spam 1 of 3 available heals. High Single target, decent aoe, heavy aoe. Pop CDs as necessary. I've tanked, healed, and DPS'd raids. DPS is a bitch and a half. tanking in the BC and wotlk times actually took half way decent effort. Now you just stand there and keep threat.

Meanwhile I'm a fury warrior in the back of the boss. Heals hasn't sent me so much as a single HoT in the last 2 minutes, and the other healer isn't dispelling so DPS are dropping like flies because of the debuff and DoT.

And I don't macro anything for DPS. Not anymore. Every spec and class is so braindead compared to what it was it's insane. I remember stance dancing as an Arms warrior and topping meters in Cata for fucks sake.

Warrior or monk. But id say warrior, all 3 specs are fun ans theyre the strong tough melee guy version of enhance.

Im an enhance shaman main and also a simple guy. Everything warrior does looks and feels amazing. the arms rotation is pretty strsightforward, fury is fun for whej you just wanna spam keys, and prot makes you feel like a gladiator.

Trust me on this user

The dagger never lied to us, unlike the Naaru.

Is there like a "support" or anything? Like a DPS with skills that helps benefits parties?

not anymore
they killed utility classes

>want to play healer
>have to play dps because my guild has more healers than we need
I never asked for this

Same user as You could try dk as well. frost is pretty straightforward and the same as how i described fury.
blood makes you feel like a vampire blood mage knight hybrid and is super strsightforward.

unholy makes you feel like a necromancer, rider of the apocalypse, pestillence spreading badass in theme. However, i find unholy to be very tedious. You end up watching a bunch of timers, spamming death coil, which feels light and shitty and pressing some button to make your pet big, it all just feels clunky, which is funny because they updated the class to feel less clunky.

Also from what ive read the DK campaign is much more superior to the warrior one unless you enjoy that mythos

Here.
>those awful aoe dps
>have to die to be good against bosses
>slow ramp

>finally bit the bullet and rerolled to Fire Mage from a Warlock
I really wish boosts weren't 60 bucks.

Been playing warlock dor 10 years.
Never ever going to change.
Tfw blizz no soulswap

Shadow has mass dispell and PWS. Dark mend for the oh shit moments or waiting for healer to get brezed

Ret has some thing too.

More fire for the Sylvannas lore.

Don't go Frost dk right now. It's single target damage is so bad right now. It only has aoe damage and if you want aoe just roll a DH and do both.

>rerolling a class because muh dps
>not playing and mastering your class
>not waiting for first balance patch

youre the greatest kind of faggot there is. go play cod

>Spam 1 of 3 available heals
having played shaman/disc and holy priest/holy pala/restro druid. i can safly say there are more then 3 skills to use, there are timeres to watch, 5 to 40 of em.
having to manege all the diffrent heals, while managing mana. not just spam the highest, watching 40 HoTs/shield, think what heal is the best at the moment depending on what is happening/how much dmg the person is taking and useing your time good (if a dps is standing in shit, its better to give him a heal, hot and shield then to just heal once becuase the time it takes to change target the dps will need a heal again)

>healer isn't dispelling
while the DPS are rolling thier face on the keyboard the healers have thier hands very full, thats why,
got worse tankfinger from healing then tanking as warrior back in vanila (aka having to tab and lay a singel sunder on every mob, as thundershock didnt do as much threat)

>Legion has been out for weeks now
>still no main yet

I wish I had a guild to tell me what to play instead of floating around trying to find something I really like without thinking about the grass being greener.

>That cage tug-of-war level

Every wow thread regarding the story i read, its like illidan is gonna be the actual or some sort of a hero/anti hero.

He's being hyped up as the savior against the Burning Legion, except he is currently still dead and his body is frozen is carbonite and in the possession of the Legion.

>Got my first legendary today
We did it reddit!

>potion of deadly grace is literally 10% of my dps
God this pot is OP.

We won't know what the greenest grass is for at least 3-4 weeks.

I mean greenest grass in terms of fun. I'm not in a guild, let alone raiding so being top DPS doesn't matter to me right now.

Oh. Well its still dependant on what you are doing. Some classes will be better for dungeons, others for WQs, others for farming, etc.

I feel like I should be doing more aoe damage as a moonkin, but I'm following my rotation exactly

How's your aoe dps, other moonkins

Depends on how good the tank is at stacking and how long they last. It's pretty good if they're stacked perfectly and I have plenty of time to ramp up, especially if I've taken FoE, but if it's quick bursty fights it's shit.

>DPS is a bitch and a half.
there is a reason why there are more DPS then tanks or healers,
its easier, you press your rotation with the occasionally POPUP attack

dps have the mentality, if there is shit on the ground or a debuff, not my problem, we have a healer. MUST AOE: MUST HIT HARDER! RIP AND TEAR!
even tanks go out of thier rotation to remove debuffs if they see em

just because you have higher DPS doent mean that your better then the DPS that went out of his way to CC something
DPS are generally entitled little shits

there are some good DPS out there that are flexable into emergency tank, healer or kiter

Eh. I use dps because it makes soloing shit easier. I switch to tank, and have DEVELOPED my tank artifact because it lets me solo SOME shit easier.

>Prior to ICC that end was revenge. After ICC that end is becoming immortal.

This is pretty amusing for a bitch that kept begging arthas for death.

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Most dps has skills that benefit parties. It just depends on what extent you mean. For example, balance druids have a spell that makes healers spells cost no mana and give them 30% haste for 10 seconds every 3 minutes, which is a huge healing CD for them.

>he says while he probably doesn't get denied for an hour when trying to pug at night because lmao locks are shit
The only spec that feels somewhat good is Destro, and even that is all over the place because of muh chaotic energies. Demo could be tolerable if they did something about Demonic Empowerment and Aff just looks boring.

>Sylvanas will die a third time the patch the N'zoth breaks loose
>Azeroth's sun contains an old god?
>Thrall and the shamans' magic was always just drawing from N'zoth

Did Sylvanis die twice already?

I dont know, blizz is really trying to get people to raid. I never raid usually but now I have 4 quests on the new raid. They are all related to artifact wep and professions too so I cant just ignore them.

I'm assuming a lot of noob casuals will also try to raid because of this.

Maybe I should pick up my shaman again, what's best currently for shaman?
I love monk but I am getting bored being monk since it's only good for dps, tank monk is terrible.

healing is best

>DAAAIPAIIIESSS IS DAH HARDEST FUEREVER +INFINITEEEE!!11
DPS per tank:
Million
DPS per healer:
A trillion

EXPLAIN THIS DPS KEKS?

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>tank/heal role gets significantly harder as you go into mythic and then mythic +
>dps still only literally have to not stand in things just like in normal
>mythic raids means you have to dodge 1-2 more things as dps then go back to rolling face across keyboard

wew

Just sit around it, people will eventually gather up and engage.

Pally tank can solo him.

angry healing cuck detected

Glad you could make it, Uther.

You need to have beaten the secret level and gotten the extra Panda hero.

It's EZMODE once you have him.

REMINDER
>Master race
RL, MT, H
>Bitch
RDPS, OT
>Proud cuckold, praiser of the bbc
(((Minigamer)))

Mistweaver is currently second top raid healer in the game

I found both of them very easy to play. If you like to just relax and talk shit they are good choices.

The heart explode line spooked me good the first time I heard it.

In some alternate timeline/universe out there somewhere Arthas defeated the Scourge, married Jaina and became the king.

They are doing something about Demonic Empowerment if the 7.1 on the ptr is anything to go by.
They're nerfing it

Did they just spoil all the upcoming expansion story? Thats retarded

t. 1300 shitter dragonslayer title

>People still thinking it's Sylvanas

It's Elisande. You have to kill her 3 times but time reverses each time until she finally dies upon which you can go to the Nightwell.

where does MDPS fit into this?

Minigamer.

that's so stupid, but I still laff'd

after the stratholme purge he should have stay in lordaeron and nothing bad would happen

t. Proud LFR hero, warrior of the arena and winner of the minigame.

Yeah cause Darth Menethil was such a good fucking story.

he was already beaing corrupted, yada yada

already ? i have to replay the campaign i though the turning point was the mercenary mission

>Also from what ive read the DK campaign is much more superior to the warrior one unless you enjoy that mythos

I've played both and yes, DK is vastly superior. DK is working directly as the Hand of the Lich King and Ebon Knights are basically operating as a third faction outside Alliance/Horde, invading other class halls, raising dead alliance and horde generals to be your servants and generally fucking shit up.

Warrior is doing errands for some invented norse-like leader guy. To be fair, Warrior class hall is A+ aesthetically though.

Honestly DK has a great campaign, but DH seems like the better class right now. Top tier DPS as opposed to DK's dumpster-tier DPS, and the tank spec is apparently better at self-healing than Blood, which is meant to be the original self-heal spec.

No, his mentor and lover/friend abandoned him in his greatest time of need and it mentally broke him.

After the purge, Lordaeron was more or less safe from the Undead but after having been forced to purge his own people/kingdom he was pretty much a lost cause.

If Uther and Jaina would have stayed, he would have been okay.

Does it have to be a Litteral death or will they pull that figuratively death?

Had a nice chortle there, user. gud jorb.

Completely forgot the biggest advantage DH has over DK, actual mobility. DK gets a 45s cooldown 3 second sprint, DPS DH has a fast CD dash and Tank has a fast CD heroic leap. It's meant to be part of the DK class fantasy to be a low mobility, highly survival, high DPS monster. The reality is one defensive CD (we lost the others), shit DPS, and bad mobility.

Still love the class, but it's just straight up broken compared to DH right now.

>I hate using demons
>Plays a FUCKING WARLOCK

you're an idiot.

>It's a spriests get the plot spoilers while warlocks get weapon that shittalks them, mages get weapon that shittalks their friends and rogues get weapon that is edgy little shit episode

>warlock is all about muh demons
fuck off blizzard nobody likes your class fantasy

>play hunter
>hate pets
>Marksmen spec
>lone wolf (remove pet for 18%more dmg)

must feel bad to be a lock, you got shafted.

Was getting so sick of my pet doing stupid shit like run after and attack some one 40 yards away that just stepped on my tar trap as I was fucking about to use flanking strike.

Get this hothead out of here.

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People were hyping up Suramar City to be the best part of the expac. Fucking how?
>absolute chore to navigate, fuck up avoiding a patrol and get ganked
>quests that involve killing things often have be facefucked by 40 guards and I'm not a tank so I die instantly

God damn these people must have never played an actual stealth game before to think Suramar is good because of the "trying not to get caught" schtick

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DK should get:
Passive +30% movespeed increase (he's on a fucking horse. He's a KNIGHT) and +60% 3s movespeed sprint that disables his horse for like, 40s or something like that
DR back.
FDK gets the ability to deal damage.
Horse hits in combat.

>DK weapons might be able to talk
>Don't because they're good little boys. Except FDK

>be tank
>just ignore all of the problems

>Treason?! Have I lost my mind. Uther?

I didn't buy into world of tankcraft though senpai, think of how much suffering it is for us squishy casters

Just jump into the canals when you get aggro. Suramar isn't even that bad.

Leveling my spriest was a struggle. Leveling my prot pally right now is a breeze pulling 5 mobs at a time.

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>implying uther wasn't trying for arthas being the lich king the entire time
>implying uther wasn't king asshat.

>there is people who are leveling on legion as anything but tanks
Not even "M-muh 10% dameg nerf" shit counts, tanks just pull the whole area and kill it at the time a single dps kills a single guy and rests.

>play hunter
>it's the escort daily
>as soon as allies get close to ending the escort i just shoot them and remove their disguise from a roof
>mfw they ragequit and probably pop a blood vessel

New to WoW.
lvl 43 healer just doing dungeons. When does it start getting fun? No idea what im doing.

Watch your tone with me boi.

Did you buy legion?

just 57 level to go breh

>leveling as a healer
that only works if you have a buttbuddy with you all the time

I can't tell you when the fun starts, but I'll tell you when it stopped.

When Cataclysm launched.

At max level. Aka fucking never since you'll drop this shit before you hit whatever the level cap is now.

You can do dungeons non-stop as a healer, you don't need anything else.

Nope. I haven't gone that deep in yet. I saw it had a character boast but i'd have no fucking clue what do with it.

I wanna fucking die.

I have one but dungeons give me instant instances.

No friends wanna fucking play FF14 with me.

O-ok.

FUcking boost a character because this game has 100 fucking levels.
There is a reason they gift the boosts with the xpacs

Jaina is nothing but an orc cock sleave

Should I level my shaman, DK or DH alt first? They're all at 100.

>you are playing a role playing game!
>nope . enjoy killing your faction leader raiding your city and having no choices
and no . you can't be neutral to kill your own faction leader out of boredon

delete this matey

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>stratholme purge is a dungeon
>its fucking shit and not like a mission at all

FUCK WHY

>not trusting you daggerfu

She makes the Spriest class the best one by just being here

You. I like you

>pulling only 5 mobs at a time
laughinganimegirl.exe

> Play specs that are pretty complex or at least have a large toolset
> Don't understand the whine about pruning, as some classes really haven't been
> Decide to try Paladin
> Crusader strike, judgement, stronger crusader strike, single target Holy Power spender, AoE Holy Power Spender
> The only mechanic is using judgement properly
> Best talent spec only adds one active skill
> Only CD is a 20 second straight up damage increase
How the fuck did this spec pass?

Is this expansion worth picking up? Have not played since Pandaria

Ret has always been stupid simple.

How the fuck BDK changed into legion most buttonless spec is a better question.

>tfw MT and RL

been a warlock main for ages and i want to switch classes now for legion. hunter, mage or priest?

>Muh daiipeeiiisss
>Muh daiiipeeeisss
>I'm actually useful JK MUH DAIPIESSSS

huh?

Truthguard reveals demons, pretty useful for that demon hunt in the area on mythic+, but outside of that you just get some AP from them.

>people are unironically taking the words of Old Gods (who survive off sending people mad) as 100% fact

>yiffing

The same way that brewmaster monk and protection paladin passed

>healer in vanilla
>goddamn channeling the autism of the universe

>tank/healer in tbc
>now with 120% the autism and more keybinds!
>at least the talents are less shit
>telepathically link with all players or they will somehow fuck it up, this included obnoxious use of fisher price macros to make sure those fuckers don't fuck up when main tanking

>dps in wotlk
>me push buten gud

DPS was so much easier, I realized I didn't even know what they fuck was going on half the time as I just tunnel visioned the boss so I didn't fuck up my rotations and waved dicks at the other DPS in the raid in our sekrit dps chat channel.

It was pretty liberating and I can see why most people choose DPS, since it's fucking easy.

>I believe everything an evil heart tells me

You're one dumb fucking cunt.

The 3rd one is Wrathion.

He's the son of deathwing. The earth warder.

>Arthas and Varian

There would be no more horde.

>Her heart is a crater, we have filled it
>People are stupid enough to think it's an incredibly minor character like Jaina and not Azeroth itself and the Maelstrom

I mained a hunter up through wotlk, and thought it was easy until i got my druid leveled and began feral tanking and healing. At least in BC i had to target swap and move, up until firefighter i could faceroll both druid specs.

I'V YEARNED FOR THE LEGION TO CRINGE BEFORE THE FURY I WOULD UNLEASH

warcraftlogs.com/statistics/10#dataset=99&difficulty=3&metric=ehrps

Big ol middle finger to all non prot warriors

>BDK

And?

Laughing how much they said they where the worst

Aluneth is pretty baller too. I love all his comments.

It's High Noon

>First week of a raid
>LINK ACHIV FOR INV

Are these people literally retarded?

It's a Heroic run.
Just fucking clear Normal which happens to be piss easy, and then link that Achievement.

because isn't the same for normal

Type something coherent this time.

Khadgar, please

When have the Naaru ever lied?

What if I told you
The best way to send someone mad is to tell them the truth?

Get me more apexis, i need it for ... um ... teh AZEROTH.

>Demon Hunter intro
>Khadger helps fix the fel hammer
>Has a magic mcguffin in a chest
>"No I don't need these Apexis Crystals..."
That bastard

>tfw shaman
>tfw can't ever get groups

>tanking
>not the easiest thing since they nerfed threat importance

Fuck off.

It's not Sylvannas. She died 3 times already. Arthas killed her. She killed herself and Godfrey killed her.

It's Elisande. She reverses time to undo her death twice. Her death lets you get the 5th pillar.

It's also the worst horde race, please cry more while my favorite race(orc) gets plenty of fucking screentime.

When Arthas killed her and whenshe committed suicide at the end of WotLK in the novels and the Valkyr resurrected her

I play as a tank and I just can't play a dps because of the pressure, even simple dungeons feel stressfull to me because I get obsessed about the damage meter, if I'm not at the top I start to inspect the other players and tell my self that I'm a shitty player. When i play a tank I can give 0 fucks, just place the boss and then pop a cooldown or two when needed. I'm not saying that one is harder than the other but DPS is too stressful for me.

nigger detected

>Try to do Darkheart Thicket for the dungeon quest from the end of Val'sharah
>Blood DK tank keeps pulling 3-4 packs at a time, blowing up, then bitching at the Druid healer for not being able to keep him up even though nobody in the group is level cap
>20 minutes in the dungeon and haven't even gotten to the first boss
>Everyone just leaves while the tank bitches

Leaders without unique models are banned from being warchief or king of alliance

>In the books
Well goddamnit

>huntards remove pet to gain 18% dmg
>locks remove pet to gain a 3% dps increase in form of a shitty useless proc

Why fuck was the old grimoire of sacrifice turned into shit

And why is everything but DHs fucking shit and why is everything but DHs being nerfed in the next patch

I'm sorry, Arthas. You can't watch me do this.

all will know the power and glory of the Sin'dorei

Velen got a revamped model, and by all rights should have been Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces since Cataclysm. But no, lets stick him in a basement because hes literally too OP.

Even Frosty Mages fet a better GrimSac than locks, and at an earlier level to boot.

>play warrior tank
>Eye of Azshara
>mage dps starts the dungeon by saying "gogogogo"
>complains that I don't skip every pack
>tell him that if he thinks I waste his time he is free to leave
>he proceedes to get "offended" and decides to just run after the group and never do any dps
>the rest of the group doesn't want to kick him for some fucking reason
>dungeon takes longer than it should have because we are basically one man down
It didn't really affet me in any special way, it was he who complained about shit taking too long, but come the fuck on.

>best in slot trinkets are both 820 blues

>there has never been model updates

Got that original Jaina pic?

Not only they aren't getting anything, frost is being nerfed
Also heart strike and bone shield and pretty much everything about blood will do less dmg/heal less now
Yes

That Remnant of the Void at the end of the Emerald Dream is pretty foreboding, it's also in the cave where il'gnyoth was i think

Ysera's spirit seemed to walk towards it also, wonder if that means anything

I completely agree.
I've tried dpsing and healing before, and i've always felt extremely pressured.
As a tank, all i have to do is watch the boss, and watch out for adds if there are any. It's simple, predetermined path if the boss needs to be moved, easy af to interrupt if need be, easily spotted periods of increased damage to use cds.
Trying to dps i have to compete against my own team, and it's especially stressful on crit reliant specs. Knowing when to use cd's trying to align trinkets and cds with bloodlust. You get screwed in the meters, you can easily be kicked and replaced.
However i've never had more stress than trying to heal. First time i've tried healing was in Cata heroics, can't imagine how stressful healing bigger groups as a priest could be, because the wipe is probably on you, unless some dps visibly fucks up hard. I find druids to be bearable, because you just hot people up.

>tfw you decided not to play Legion and watch the nerfbat slam all of your favorite classes

I love playing a Draenei and being referred to as primitive by Nightbourne NPCs.
Like, bitch, my race has colonized several planets after learning long distance space travel and the evil half of us have conquered thousands of planets, you assholes can't even figure out a masquerade disguise half the time.

You just dodged a bullet, everything that is not a DH is just bad

>People will play red draenai

Khadgar, what's wrong? What happend? Something bit your head? That's all? Would you like me to kiss it for you?

haven't tried healing since wrath, I played a druid back then and they were really good so I can't remember it being really stressfull.

My other character is a fire mage and it is a nightmare, I joined a heroic and do "great dps", something like 200k which I think is okay for my mediocre gear, then the monk starts to dps, he's decked out in mytic stuff and have 30 more ilvls than me and blows me the fuck out on the dps meter. I just left because I felt fucking worthless.

Cata healing was hard as fuck. Don't compare current healing with that.

I leveled like 4 classes to 100 in the Legion invasion event and had a lot of fun doing it once I found out about the logout exploit. I was excited to play some of them to 110 at launch too, but I'll be content with all the fun I had while the rest of these WoWfucks ragequit after dropping a cool $50 just for Blizzard.

Never healed since Cata. It was too stressful for me.
I drank half a bottle of scotch after healing my first heroic.

How do I get more DPS out of Assassination Rogue? No matter what I can't push it more than 140K DPS.

Healing now is not healing back then. You literally mash two buttons the vast majority of the time.

>click spec
>click outlaw
>click learn

My main spec is outlaw. I hate the RNG of it though. I can do either over 250kDps, or barely 100. I want something consistent, and assassination is supposedly better on raiding, while outlaw cleave is best for mythic dungeons.

Is Jaina a pure and chaste virgin?

logging out and resetting scenario process isn't an exploit

using 3 Marks of Honor to buy entire PvP sets for transmogs was an exploit.

No, Arthas took her virginity in a retcon book. Said book cites the event as the beginning of his lust for power, since the sex was so lousy.

>no janky synergy abilities for warlock+DH or hunter+feral/guardian
>you will never send your best cat friend into a dire frenzy

Reroll DH

>get a lvl100 powerup with preorder
>"man, mage seems cool with all the portals and sheit"
>get a 100 mage
>it's a fucking chore
>every mob bullies you into oblivion
>underwhelming style
>have to stop after every kill to eat and drink
how the fuck do I enjoy mage ? I blew my powerup on this piece of shit and I'm determined not to let it sit unused but god damn it's frustrating. So far I've played fire and it's been a constant stream of getting my shit pushed in by trash mobs, and don't even get me going on elites
Do you have to be constantly accompanied by a melee type who tanks or am I missing something ? Is there a better spec to lvl up ? please send help

>warlock+DH
>synergy
Would it involve DH brutally murdering the warlock for consorting with demons while listening to linkin park?

>killing trash you can skip
you also kill optional bosses that drop no loot i guess

Kill Heroic Xavius yet, Cred Forums?

Is fury warrior viable in Legion or should I just trash it and go fire mage/warlock?

>sperging out about not taking "the optimal path" trough an instance
how about you roll a tank yourself then?

>he doesn't want to Tehd & Marius the shit out of the legion

So she isn't even a freak in bed? Lame.

Git gud and learn your class you shitter. Should be nuking enemies at your before they even attack you.

Everybody in Warcraft turns evil

>Do you have to be constantly accompanied by a melee type who tanks or am I missing something ?

Yes, leveling as fire is a fucking nightmare, level as frost. Even playing fire solo fucking sucks until you're decent geared and mobs don't fuck you in the ass because you just nuke them first but hot damn is it fucking fun once you're max in dungeons, raids, and pvp.

This. And then they got surprised why he went full scourge. Fuck them

It's a crater down there

>so we have this character what can we do with it?
>DEATH
>CORRUPTION
>ITS ACTUALLY EVIL
>PANDAS

so just run in circles spamming scorch ? that sounds great you fucking cum-guzzler
I guess I'll just have to suffer until I can get the fabulous frost staff, then
very much so, but prot is a lot comfier

I have a tank, maybe you should get your shit together and try to be up to par with every other tank in the game and learn dungeons. You'll never get far into mythic+'s with that attitude.

isn't playing the game supposed to be the fun part ?

in my opinion, doing lower dungon with pug or friends, leveling and not rushing thru it

I already run through mythics with my guild and have had no complaints, how about you stick to your fucking tank so you don't bother other tanks with your bullshit.

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>In the sunken city, he lays dreaming.

>Beneath the shadow of the darkened spire, there is no light, no mercy, only void, and the chaos within.

That... Would be pretty cool.

Windwalker weapons give you slowfall when you fall a certain distance.

Don't go Warlock.
Not right now.
Wait until the 'Balance Patch' to even consider it.

Ignore talk about damage it varies from awful to sometimes average, except for one spec which is just always awful , the class is simply unfun to play.

Which is a pity, since the class hall, artifacts and campaign are fantastic.

Yes, I was maining warlock.
Yes, I got to 110.
Yes, I'm bitter.

But don't go Warlock if you've already tried something else, it will feel awful in comparison, and it doesn't get better.

Unlike Ret, apparently. Which does get better, despite a rocky start.

Also don't roll ele shaman at the minute; it's fun but horribly weak and questing will be more of a chore than nearly any other spec of nearly any other class.

didn't know being efficient was bullshit but if you and your guild are complacent with being worse than other tanks go right ahead

Why the fuck would you go warlock?

Tehd is the only good forsaken

>another fucking blackrock spire raid
The place basically consists of instance portals as it is

Because I'm a dark edgelord.

>mfw magic nelfs call me lowborn

Go DK or DH then

>Punished Velen

No nigga, it means N'zoth is under the Tomb of Sargeras

>implying my guild isn't filled with worse casuals than me
I even give them advice based on personal feelings and aesthetics, not actual facts

Nigga it's assassin. Keep your dots up, use deadly poison, hit your artifact skill.

warlock players are all retarded faggots anyway
>destro lock signs up for mythic Maw of Souls
>wipe on trash because no one bothers to interrupt shit
>"yeah you have to stun or interrupt those guys or we wipe"
how about you stop playing a spec with shit damage and no utility fuckface

Guys i just got benched on Heroic Xavius cause i didn't have a legendary, what do?

With demo skull, the featured and the skull will make comments to each other depending on the zone, pretty cute
Also thakriel will insult you for needing more people for the summoning portal

Should I bother with the WoD quest or just skip on ahead to Legion content? Last I played was MoP and that 100 boost is so tempting.

>Nobundo...I'm already a demon.

Funnily enough, we had both a few months ago...

Find a better guild.

you get the 100 boost for free and I suggest you use it, level up your 90 if you decide you want it later.

Just skip it, enjoy Legion whilst it's new and cool and fresh and current.

Level to 110, enjoy the new things and then go back eventually so that you can fully enjoy the story amd fun things there.

What is a good horde EU server?

Was thinking about moving to either Kazzak or Twisting Nether.

I would like to PvE mainly but finding a arena or a RBG team would be neat.

Also are DH's worth it? Was thinking about making one as an alt to my Mistweaver heal slut.

>guy has a point
>"b-but your class is umbalanced shit for now and broken so you can't talk!"
Not even a lock, but come on man...

>Fuck up because you can't stun or interrupt
>Guy tells you what you need to do to not fuck up
>HURR RETARDED LOCKS
You're a fucking idiot.

I literally just logged off of my Mage for this reason. Pretty sure I was supposed to go frost but I don't even want to bother getting to 102.

POTTERY if I ever saw one

But thats gonna be hard, they are close to top 1 US

Your guild is garbage if you're not shitposting.

>her heart is a crater, and we have filled it
That is referring to the titan soul of Azeroth you mongoloid

>Horde
>Not alliance
c'mun user we need DPS

I was interrupting. Most trash pulls in Maw need you to cast multiple interrupts. Once mine is off someone else has to do it and our rogue was an idiot
if we needed interrupts that bad he could have switched to afflic but he's just a bitchy faggot that wants to show off muh sick chaos bolt rng

>top 1 US
>benching people for that reason
Doubt

Maelstrom doesn't look like a crater to me, m80

>better =/= successful

If your guild hasn't cleared H Xavius yet then it is no where near top1 US

>Il'gynoth: Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it.
It's talking about Azeroth you mong. The Titans pulling Y'Shaarj out made a giant hole.

But I like female belfs.

Tell the fucking rogue to stop being retarded then instead of the guy actually telling people to stop being retarded because you're too fucking beta

glad you could make it Arthas

People have been benched for damage reasons in BRF on Blackhand, i wasn't in the best 20 for that fight

Fem NElf.

watch your tone old man

Well I don't see what BRF has anything to do with being sat for a lack of legendary on Xavius. Furthermore, as another user has pointed out, you are no where near top US if you "just" got sat and your guild hasn't done Xavius yet.

Basically your guild is succ.

Best server to roll new alliance on? PvE I'm tired of being ganked constantly.

>worst horde race
>not trolls/taruen

MY KINGDOM FOR ORC, ELF, OR GOBLIN DRUID HOLY SHIT

Actually less so elf because while I don't mind playing one that change would make 75% of the Horde blood elf, lol.

As if you could forgetti

Holy shit you're a special kind of retard, aren't you?
Tell the fucking rogue to do his job, fucking autist.
>rogue is fucking up
>let's blame the lock who was saying how to not fuck up
God damned, retard.

We were world 30th

i just watched the warcraft movie and i thought it was pretty great, why was it considered shit again?

>Trolls/Tauren
>Bad races
What the fuck?

EU?
Argent dawn

I love seeing all these nobodies in shit guilds thinking they know how shit works in high level guilds.

Fall for low effort trolling more.

Changed lore and CGI was pretty fucking bad at some parts.
And I actually thought it was okay

What's the name of the mod that shows all world quest rewards on the map without you having to mouse over everything?

A friend of mine is on Kazzak and says it's a fucking shithole community

No Arthas
No Illidan

>tfw I have no time for lore because I've been making insane bank selling arcane weed in WoW. Nearly 1 million gold in just a few weeks

Why don't they just merge servers?
Not having a server community fucking sucks

>tfw humans aren't warcraft humans and look like crap with warcraft orcs in comparison

I wish it was more CGI like FF movies

>people missed the extra where he says we're going back to Argus

>Being a faggot.

Aren't the humans meant to be stupidly muscled and built like brick shithouses?
I thought it was quite weird, but then again It might have looked really off on-screen if they did it that way.

As a new player I leveled from 0 to 100 as fire. Would frost really have made a big difference?

>tfw on NA Argent Dawn and it never reach Wrath pop again

IF I CANNOT MEME THE PAYMENT FROM YOU, THE SPIRITS WILL

Yep.
Warcraft humans are basically built like half-giants since they come from not!giant vikings.

This was honestly one of the worst plot twists in WoW

Fuck Vrykul

>it's another "let's make wild theories based off of manipulative old god whispers" episode
boy oh boy they sure love playing this rerun often

If a lying says he's lying, is he telling the truth?

>humans descend from early humans
>plot twist

????

>Old gods
>Lies
Pick one

It does explain why the fuck warcraft (in general) humans have retarded fridge proportions.

Trying to justify a shitty art style as lore choice?

huh, didnt actually know that one.

You've tossed a terrible salad, Arthas

>Jamaican and Native American cultures
>not garbage

Gaurds in org will thank you for wielding Doomhammer

Tarren mill or draenor imo. Stormscale is an autist containment ground, stay the fuck away.

As much as i'd like, i doubt thal'ky's going to give us any decent leads on a heavily druidistic/old god-ish focused raid.

>Eye of Sargeras of Sargeras

Look, warcraft is built upon a simple principle
"can I make it more retarded?"

... & Knuckles

and the answer is always yes
That's its beauty but also its curse

When they didn't admit that they were fucking voidlords in disguise

That's Seline's quote, though. She tries to find balance between Light and Shadow rather than either or, so of course she would believe that most of what it has to say is lies. However, she learned everything she knew about Shadow (and thus allowed the Cult to sprout up from her writings) from the dagger. So she clearly listened to its lies.

Wait, what the fuck? Explain
Also, not telling something isn't the same as lying

Kingslayers allow no such thing

Lok'tar, friend, what is it you wish?

>Reminder that "Jaina is a Dreadlord" memesters were dread wrong.
>
>She's actually a whore for the Old Gods/Void Lords.
>
>Proof:
>Il'gynoth: Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it.

yeah i saw that on reddit too! XDD

but seriously, lore is so fucked at this point, sargeras is supposed to be the good guy and he wants to fuck azeroth or some shit? whats going on I dont even

Because the Naaru are a lot more trustable.

wait, wait
suramar was in the bottom of the ocean until the isles were raised
what the fuck? how did aegwynn use it?

sargeras isn't a good guy they just gave him more motivation than "lol imma destroy all life in the universe cause I'm evil"

>Did they just spoil all the upcoming expansion story? Thats retarded

you know they spoiled Legion in MoP right?
Not even like, at the end of mop or anything.
Before the fucking second raid of MoP, Wrathion said that the legion is coming to our world again.

This shit has, is and will always continue to be in the game

theres a Cred Forums / /vg/ guild on shattered halls EU, called wrench, if you want to play with them. I used to roll with them in MoP, theyre actually not shit at the game

WoD and Cata weren't spoiled.

and sargeras is gonna plug that hole with his dick and make a new titan

Naaru who lose their light become voidlords.
Voidlords can be purified to become naaru

>cata wasnt spoiled
>he doesnt remember the maps in ulduar

>wrench
>Not utter shit

>wod and cata werent spoiled

except we knew for quite some time that deathwing would be making a return from the ~book lore~

and it would be almost impossible for them to 'spoil' lore ingame on WoD because its literally an alternate timeline.
the only people that knew we were going there were that bronze dragon fuck and Garrosh, when they made the jump

But with that logic you could say voidlords are naaru is disguise

How did Sargeras come back from being killed by the guardian? He isn't a demon so he shouldn't resurrect in the nether.

Leveling is piss easy no matter what you're doing these days. Fire has only gotten more solo friendly with all the changes.

inb4 gorilla faglord sheriff

yeah, the plot twist that homo-sapiens were early humans was a shit plottwist too

In some comics their proportions are normal, and the youtube short stories. It depends on the artist, I don't think there's lore reasons for it, just that in-game model designs have followed Samwise's exaggerated comical proportions since WC3.

his avatar got his dick kicked in, but a part of him was like "imma chill in ur cunny" and he did, so when she shat out mediv mediv was sargeras puppet

>cunny

Thanks for the response user but you triggered me

>his avatar got his dick kicked in, but a part of him was like "imma chill in ur cunny" and he did
Jesus user

Vashj'ir was great zone but I think making another one would not make it's experience as interesting. It would probably be annoying.

>Getting triggered by cunny

Thal'kiel also has one or two comments for each dungeon, he either comments the dungeon itself (HoV, for example, he comments that if the valarjar would prove a huge hindrance for the legion but since they're stuck in there he considers them useless) or talks about one of the bosses (in BHR, he either comments how you should study the amagalm of souls or that it's a pity you can't stay longer to try if you can enslave the DH boss):

They meant it'd be a shame if suuesh was released

Sargeras is the big bad of Legion, but who is next?

Azshara expansion with N'zoth?

I think the reason I like Vashj'ir so much is because it's the first zone that actually feels like a directed experience rather than a bunch of unrelated quests spaced across an area.

Last boss of Legion is either Kil'jaeden (based on him having a new boss model) or possessed Illidan. Next patch is most likely N'zoth, based on the fact that we get the Fifth Pillar from Ellisande in Nighthold combined with "Five keys to open our way. Five torches to light our path.
The Lord of Ravens will turn the key." from il'gynoth.

Next expansion will be Azshara most likely.

Bretty gud

Demonic empowerment

>possessed Illidan
no, illidan is getting cleansed by the light and, alongside anduin, will be the leader of the army of light.

He'll essentially make the transformation that the demon in the paladin order hall does, but he'll be a literal golden illidan

>You can enslave the hueg infernals in felsoul hold
Dark pact gives me a mega shield but the artifact ability doesn't work. What a gay

>Actually believing the obvious bullshit the Naaru are spouting

It is standing right behind you. Do not move. Do not breathe.

O-oh cool. Another 820 reward from my Emissary quests. How neat.
Would be a shame if my subscription ran out.

No user, I'm sure you will get that legendary you want in the next emissary cache.

>kil'jaeden has a new boss model
what? let me see?

the box that holds your legendary is the box that would have gotten the day after your subscription runs out
so stay subbed good goy

We never did get Neptulon back after Throne of the Tides.

Hope you've got a Rogue, you see it in the artifact quest for Sub.

Would they really let us have fun as a Warlock user?

Getting Hueg Infernals is nice though, if only we could summon actual powerful demons ourselves too...

It'll most likely get patched or something later on because i can take it to Shal'aran and let it loose in there. But that is pretty much the extent of the fun

yeah we did
he just nonchalantly shows up at the start of the shaman campaign in Legion and says he's best friends with the octopus

that's his model from SWP

I hope you're joking.
I get the impression you're not.

Nope.

Blizzard said themselves, Vash'jir's storyline had an _extremely_ satisfying conclusion.

Probably.
Nofunallowed in this expansion.
Can you let it loose/make use of it in the sewers?

Unless you're DH or a tank.