Have you pre-purchased Civilization VI for your personalized computing platform?

Have you pre-purchased Civilization VI for your personalized computing platform?

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No

No, want to read reviews first.

>already given half my fortune to Civ 5 expansions

>even considering giving more to shill meier

No thanks

>pre-ordering firaxis games after the mess that was xcom2

Lol

Was it actually a bad game at core or is it all about bugs and performance hiccups?

Of course, I read on Kotaku that it's better than Civ V with the Brave New World expansion pack.

Negative. But I did get all the DLC I was missing for V for about $8 on a steam sale. Pretty excited about that.

I expect it to be good, but I'll wait for some day one reviews. If there any technical issues, if the multiplayer is broken again on release and all that.

No because I don't like cartoon style characters.

The game itself is fine but the launch was a goddamn mess and firaxis is so fucking slow with patches. To this very day they still haven't fixed the game fully, and they probably never will.

>tfw getting the full pack for 20 bucks on a key seller site
So glad I found out about the game that late.

No. I'm going to pirate then buy the whole thing in a couple of years once it's all out.

After several year when dlc is out and it's on sale

>that fucking Civ V cheevo that's currently still completely unattainable

I'm waiting to at least see the videos after the NDA expires next week.

No, the art style makes me want to gouge my eyes out. I don't want to look at a phone game for 1000+ hours.

I'm waiting for the definitive version.

Do you think I'm supposed to be seeing a mushroom cloud when I look at the composition of the image?

it was removed user, rejoice.

No because I don't play phone games. Sorry.

Did they really remove it for good? Last time they did it just came back a few months later.

>pre-purchasing games
You retards never learn.

>Fucking CONGO as a Civilization
>Religious victory now a thing
>No Celts

GIVE ME MY WILLIAM WALLACE YOU SHILLS REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Never pre-purchase, never kickstart, never early access. Endorsing such behavior is negative in today's day and age when developers focus more on marketing than producing quality, even though I dare say that Firaxis tends to deliver decent quality.

They fixed the major issues within the first week - However a few minor glitches remained for a bit too long, though today it is an amazing game since the modding community was given so much power with this one. Can really customize it according to your own preferences. It was the same with XCOM one - A few of the players were experiencing massive issues with the final missions for literally a year after the release.

Religious Victory being a thing makes sense since Muslims and Jews are slowly getting there in the real world - One of the two will win in the end, you'll see.

good theory

>shits on Congo
>wants the Celt """civilization""" back
how many layers of unirony are you on right now?

Civilization 5 was not fun, it keeps you playing sure but no game gives me that same "i'm fucking wasting my life" feeling as much as civ 5 does.

>jews
>winning a religious victory
what? I don't think I've ever heard of a goy converting to judaism

/Thread

I'll wait for reviews.

Civ games usually aren't good until they've had an expansion or two.

But that's just a theory.... A GAME THEORY

like, four or five

>no game gives me that same "i'm fucking wasting my life" feeling as much as civ 5 does.
The Sims series.

It would be so barebones there would be no point in getting it. You can clearly see the UI is designed for PC.

this

welcome to video games

They are taking a different approach - They aren't converting people, just taking over the things and businesses that we all 'depend on' and 'need'.

Muslims are all about converting people and having 12 kids each, though. Different tactics.

Celts will probably get added later as DLC. They weren't in vanilla Civ 5 either, you know.

Also, they said they wanted less European representation so TSL games wouldn't be such a clusterfuck, but since there's only two African civs for now (one if you don't count Egypt) and still as much Europe as you'd expect, I'm guessing they were full of shit.

In Civ VI religious victory means converting most of the world to your religion. What you're talking about is closer to a cultural or (yet not implemented) economic victory.

They should bring back Mansa Musa. He's the only African leader that actually fully deserved to be in a Civ game so far.

12.37€ on steam right now
should i get it?

What's with the Celts==Scotland meme? It's probably the least Celtic "Celtic" country, half of it was de facto English to begin with "Scots" is an anglo dialect.

That's a great price, yeah.

Are there ANY actual benefits to pre-order this game AT ALL?

The only bonus is that you can play a certain civilization early because it's locked for no fucking reason at all

That, or you're paying money sooner so you can beta test a civilization

OR it's gonna be OP and multiplayer matches are gonna be unfair when you're up against the jungle monkey civ who dominates the green areas as early as the fifth turn. Then they nerf it come full release.

There's no bonuses or incentive to pre-order this game. That's kind of the way it should be. I don';t want to be the first to line up to have to deal with all the graphical and performance issues this game is gonna have within the first couple weeks.

In fact, I might be more excited that I'm gonna be seeing SFM porn of Cleo rather than playing this game.

I just hope they don't muck it up.

Probably because the Celtic people were wanking around in the middle of the UK or thereabouts. William Wallace was however a Scotsman, just like you said.

kek

Is it me or does this have a lot less countries compared to the previous games?

youtube.com/watch?v=P_F7_td7M5s

Devs playing Kongo and Rome, mostly about City Growth.

it has the same amount of civs in vanilla

ethiopia and ajuran sultanate could be added too, with egypt and mali thats 4 african civs so that could fill the african quota without adding dumb "civs" like the zulus

Shaka is based tho.

but adding the zulu as a civ as about as dumb as having the huns as a civ, which was incredibly stupid too, for fucks sake you already have barbarians what was the point of the huns?

Attila is a meme, memes are good.

glad happiness is localized again

>memes are good

>not liking an entire game because it has a different art direction than the last game
I promise you that if you played the game for a few hours you'd get used to it. That's just how these things work, user.

>Normal Civ Player: "With the focus on districts, does this mean going "tall" is less viable than "wide"?
>Filthy Casual: "lol it's cartoony n shit"

>Normal Civ Player: "Congo can't win a religious victory. How will it stop Civs with the dominant religion if Congo happens to be following the same religion?"
>Filthy casual: "lol dis looks like a mobile game amirite?"

I'm picking up the anniversary edition. I have a soft spot for art books.

That meaning...?

I'm a little bit more than cautiously optimistic but I won't be preordering it due la lack of disposable income and pressing real life issues.

Civ V turned happiness "globally", meaning you have a single happiness counter. This happiness affects all your cities. So that one city you plopped which is production focused has negative happiness, and that will affect the global happiness count.

VI brought them back "locally". Basically you can have a city that is very unhappy but it won't hinder your other cities.

>Congo can't win a religious victory. How will it stop Civs with the dominant religion if Congo happens to be following the same religion?
Congo is fit for any victory BUT Religious (Scientific too I guess). Just adopt the religion with the founder belief that will help you the most then spread it like mad, it's a high-risk (since you may end up making another civ win), high-reward sort of thing.

I thought the artstyle looked very clean and nice when they revealed the first screenshots, but it looks even better in motion and seems to make reading the map at a glance much easier than civ5 which usually ends up looking like a cluttered mess during the mid-lategame

The vid said they can do scientific too due to their high population growth.

Oh wow I could have never imagined it worked that way in the past, thank you for the explanation.

>Normal civ player
>caring at all about religion
Casual spotted.

Yeah let's pre-order a civ, because they're so playable without expansions
Retards.

They should add Shaka and the Zulu because they have been in it since the first game.
>but they're not important at all
Who gives a shit, civ is a casual game with pop history. Zulu was a film so they put them in the first game, then they became a staple. Anybody who complains about their continued inclusion is a lout.

Yeah guess you're right. Still sounds a bit counterintuitive if they don't add a decent scientific founder belief though.

>during the mid-lategame
It still uses the one unit per tile system, so that is definitely still going to happen.

>Casuals don't know about the new religious victory in Civ VI.

>streamers and youtubers already playing so they can shill

oy vey

This time it will be different...right?

What the fuck is "religious victory"?
That sounds retarded.

But it sucks if the religion you need is the one that's close to winning. You'd be handing the founder a free victory.

basically you just have to rely on your neighboring religions for that

it's Civ V who flipped everything, they switched around civs and added a few new ones, but turned Babylon and Mongolia into DLC

Video of the new stream. Early game combat as Rome and city expansion.

youtube.com/watch?v=P_F7_td7M5s

This doesn't bother me. I actually think it's quite a clever way to market. Firaxis hasn't got a big marketing budget I'd imagine, so letting other people advertise your game for free (when you know they'll like it anyway) is a good way to do things. Just like when they gave Xcom 2 out early.

I was speaking more about the visuals, but in civ6 you can now combine 2-3 units into corps and there's support units that stack with military units

Considering unlike older games that have that "vanilla" flavor whereas this one is building up from scratch with its new mechanics + actually having stuff usually limited from expansions...

...we'll see.

Does someone have the CIVILANATIONS 6 pic with the weenie huts on the map? I need it.

Somebody post the World Leaders photo please.

user don't go spreading lies. There's limited unit stacking now.

The only reason the visuals were a mess in civ5 was because you'd have 90 tiles each and every one of which would have a unit on it, if they're allowing some sort of stacking then maybe it won't be a complete fucking mess.

I wonder if winning a religious victory as the Congo will be a Steam achievement.

I just bought the complete V. Haven't opened it yet though.

Not sure if I want to refund it though. I'm afraid it will suck me in and I won't be able to crawl back out.

this

This, you can combine 2 units into a corps, and 3 units into an Army, or just produce a corps or army.

Why, will there be a shortage of copies?

I might have faith in this franchise if civ5 wasn't casual micromanagement grind, and BE wasn't unplayable garbage.
But in general I'm not paying for shit until I get my money's worth out of civ5 and there's no way that's happening unless it suddenly gets proper mod support.

If you're a student, this will be a good test to see if you can manage time effectively.

If you're working, it will be an effective test to see if you're an adult.

Like that would be a problem on Settler. Most meme cheevos can easily be obtained by lowering the difficulty or with a little setup.

There are complete overhaul mods and countless civs available on the workshop. What's your idea of "proper mod support"?

So if happiness is localized again what is stopping ICS?

>Firaxis hasn't got a big marketing budget

Correction they don't focus funds on marketing and spending too much instead of leaving their games handicapped by budget constraints.

>Oh but they release unfinished games and release DLC and expansions later to fix

They are one of the last AAA devs that still creates games for a niche crowd and knows that crowd is loyal and when you make good games they stay popular for years.

If it were any other dev CIV V would be a FPS about genocide.

Well at least it's not a multiplayer game, it can be addictive but it's not really comparable to MOBAs and similar crap.

>Settler
Why would you want to do that though? That sounds painful.

Bump

Isn't this a good thing?

I honestly wish every developer marketed their games by letting the public get a good look at how the game actually plays weeks before launch.

specifically, at first you can't form an army, however as you learn certain civics (or technologies, I forgot which contain military formations), you can combine 2 units, and then 3 units after another tech research

and even then, naval combining is a different tech from ground unit combining, it's why Norway can do it earlier (or was it Spain?)

unpack cities

also the game encourages settler spawning now

Actual overhaul mods, not just replacing music, fucking with balance, and adding a few civs.
I want full blown thematic changes, fantasy settings like rise from erebus, star-to-star combat like that one mod that came with civ4.

unpack cities?

>not realizing a Cred Forums shitpost

nigga they have that in Civ V, either in workshop or in civfanatics

Anything for trophies.

Well I'd rather play for the Boer Deity achievement again than play on settler.

the game now requires you to build districts to build certain buildings (i.e. you need a campus for science buildings, an encampment for advanced units, etc.), and you are only limited to, at least at start, 3 pop per district, this also allows you to build naval units even if your main city is not in the coast, as long as you have harbor district

districts require a tile within your city limits, so you have to plan ahead, as you have resources, etc.

and then wonders also occupy tiles now, and have requirements too, like Stonehenge requiring stone material

well-of-souls.com/civ/civ6_cities.html

Replacing my ancient pc(and I mean ancient, 8 years worth of gaming) just so I can play this with no issues with performance.

>Boer Deity
Share strategy, I've yet to get that.

Like I said, what is stopping ICS?

Make sure you don't waste your money on a i7 6700k and 1000W PSU

There will still be science penalties I think, although Eureka moments could counter it.
City Spam would mean you aren't building military units and you could spread yourself too thin. There's no warmonger penalties on Ancient Era and it's negligible in Classical so a rival can cut you off at the knees if you try it.
Don't know if AI is smart enough to do that though.

Is that really such a waste? Pls mind my ignorance

Have you played Civ before Civ 5?
Just wondering if you know what ICS is.

I thought it was all of the world to your religion?

building large numbers of cities is a good thing and a sign of a successfull civilization, four city shitters can get fucked for playing badly as they should

>enemy civ keeps random settlers around the world
>pop a city whenever you're close to win
It's most.

Because there is no "all cities do the same thing" anymore, or at least it's more limited

Amenities need to be divided amongst your cities to improve growth. If you put too many cities down too tightly you'll have low population in all of them and lose out on a ton of stuff.

You can just tell who are the shitters whose Civ 5 was their first Civ.

Isn't Japan about close packed cities though?

>Amenities need to be divided amongst your cities to improve growth

Just like in Civ 5? Except Civ 5 implemented global happiness to limit ICS and even ICS still can be carried out to a certain extent. Now that global happiness is gone what the fuck is stopping ICS?

Regardless how this game turns out though, this definitely will be a different experience than V. It's way different than its predecessors much like how III was majorly different from I and II.

nigga I started from II (I don't think I can play I). Please actually pay attention from what VI's are.

ICS only work because all of your cities can replicate pretty much each other. That's severely limited in VI due to how buildings are implemented.

>ICS only work because all of your cities can replicate pretty much each other
What? No. ICS worked because taking a city is hard as fuck and there is literally no drawback to planting as many cities as possible. Sure I can't have cities be multiple purpose, now the cities are just going to be specialized. What is the drawback of going ICS in 6.

Settlers are increasingly expensive the more you make.

i7's are too much more money, for very little improvement. and 1000 watt psu is overkill unless you are running something like 2 1080s. 600-650 is perfectly fine, with tonnes of headroom for any build really.

>buying civ 6 after beyond earth
I hope all of you get a horrible game and regret your purchase

Nope, want to actually see the gameplay once it's realeased first to make an informed decision. Plus the price is pretty steep so I'll at least want to wait until it's on sale first I reckon.

I want to find out if the gameplay is significantly different from Civ 5 and still fun because I learned my lesson from beyond earth already. Plus the artstyle they picked is kind of turning me off as well so the gameplay will really have to make up for it.

>also the game encourages settler spawning now

>Settlers are increasingly expensive the more you make.

I am not sure who to believe. Unless you tell me the Devs want you to ICS meaning settlers are expensive and still vital? Is that the ONLY drawback? Cause if so, all the tall civs can go get fucked.

Not them user but my first was 5, I have the others just for spocs narration but honestly don't mind being a 5 fag.

I didn't even play 5 before the gods and kings expansion so I don't even know how bad it was.

Beyond Earth is a spin-off and pretty a downgraded Civ V. Civ VI is massively different and it's quite apparent they're actually trying this time.

Thanks for the tip pal

>They are trying this time
>Those graphics
Please

There are still two things that aren't answered for me.

Are districts buildable outside the 3 tile workable limit? Are GPs once consumed by one civ cannot be consumed by the other?

In a multiplayer game if I rename my religion will other players finally be able to see it?

Can Bran-Daoism finally take its rightful place as the leading religion of the world?

>20 motherfucking 16
>pre ordering

Just fuck off with your insufferable culture. Haven't any of you learn from the past 5 years that it's all a scam to get our money?

Fuck sakes, it's people like you why we have shiity games today.

>he thinks Civ 6 is the same as BE and are of the same people

settlers are encouraged in a sense that pop growth isn't "paused" when making settlers now

Based on the visuals, they're being even more half-assed than BE.

Nah, artwork looks like shit and agenda pushing shit like that scythia is the last straw for me after the abortion that BE turned out to be.
Vote with your wallet guys, dont preorder and make sure publishers know why are you not parting with your shekels.

>muh graphics
Fuck off the fact grafix is not their main focus shows it's their utmost priority to get the gameplay right.

>settlers are encouraged in a sense that pop growth isn't "paused" when making settlers now
>local happiness

So they want you to ICS huh?

>They are trying
>On the gameplay
>Just not the graphics
Kill yourself you fucking shill. Doesn't even have to be fucking cutting age graphics. Just not this bullshit cartoony piece of shit that will go stale within a year.

I hope you realize how bad of a game it is after the 2 hours pass, so you live with the regret through your steam account

I don't like the artstyle either: it seems far too cartoony to me, but it's pretty clear they've actually changed the core mechanics.

Civ: BE was pretty much Civ 5 with a space skin, some pitiful changes to the upgrade tree and none of the charm that comes from the historic setting of the Civ series.
At least Civ 6 will have the historic charm, albeit tainted by the choices of artstyle (perhaps mods can fix that in time). But the way they've reworked the way you build tile improvements and build up your cities is enough to show the core gameplay has been altered. I'm skeptical about the art, but if the core gameplay is good enough once the game's out and I've seen some footage from average players rather than marketing footage then I'll judge whether it's actually worth buying or not (probably gonna wait for a sale though).

ICS would be a waste because settlers get ridiculously expensive after you make a lot of them.

Graphics (or rather, art style) won't ultimately matter that much if the gameplay is good. This is a Civ game, remember?

here comes the derailing shitposting

city defense is harder now, you need to build a city wall now to actually make your city attack, pillaging districts now immediately destroy associated buildings, and you can easily stop production by surrounding the city

at least, from your definition of ICS, I always thought it's replicating the same city bonuses

>because settlers get ridiculously expensive after you make a lot of them.

What is the penalty? Or are you just quoting some dev?

There is also sieges IIRC

t. shill

I am sorry. If I am going to stare and play a game for hours on end, I would rather not look at graphics that make my eyes bleed. If I wanted "muh gameplay" text only where graphic don't matter, I would play a GSG, spreadsheet simulator or another fucking 4X which is deeper. Half the reason I enjoyed Endless Legend as much as I did was because the artstyle was so great.

>This is a Civ game, remember?

I try to remember, but looking at it makes me think it's Clash of the Clans or some other mobile game.

>good graphics
>Endless

kek

are these the shillposters, the butthurt Endlessfags?

maybe you should actually look at that mobile garbage first

IDK, what does it matter? It doesn't have to be much of a penalty to make ICS untenable.

There are not going to be exact values for anything until the game is finally released.

I'm not a shill, it just annoys me people are judging a Civ game on graphics alone when that element has never been a main focus in the first place.

The fuck are you shitting on Endless legend in a Civ 6 thread for?

I'm even fucking saying that I don't plan on buying it full price at all and that I don't like the artstyle. I'm literally just fucking holding off judgement on the gameplay until I get some footage that isn't carefully selected by the marketing team. How the fuck is that shilling?

If I was trying to shill I'd be trying to encourage purchase on day 1, probably by either accusing people of being poorfags for not shelling out fifty quid for it or trying to big up the gameplay. I'm the guy who said that I'm learning my lesson from Beyond Earth and not buying day 1 just to let myself be disappointed.

Yeah. Graphics was never the main point. The fact that people are complaining about graphics shows you how fucking shit the graphics are. It is so bad that people are actually fucking complaining about graphics.

>arguing with shitposters with predictable one word posts that itself is a cancer in Cred Forums killing discussions next to "piracy" and "SJW"

at this point it's better to consider people replying to shitposters as samefags, or just filtering them.

>civ is a casual game with pop history
If that's true, then where are the jews? Why can't you nuke Tel Aviv and whine about the ludicrous trade demands of the Israeli king?

Yes, but get it for 10 in Humble Bundle instead.

>£50

Nah, fuck off 2k.

The game now has housing which limits your max pop. Amneties is basically happiness in function.

>Civ 4 was bad till expansions
>Civ 5 was bad till expansions
>Civ 6 will be good
>They promise
:^)

I pity the fucking retards

>preordering games
Why do retards do this?
nvm. I answered my own question.

Where's my happiness / golden age based Civ?

>he started at Civ 4
>he never experienced the jump from 2 to 3

I don't regret buying Civ V so it's doubtful I'll regret Civ VI.

Are there golden ages still?

huh, actually they haven't showed anything about golden ages

It's fifty fucking quid on launch and the recent Civ games are only good after an expansion or two. Gonna wait on a sale.
Sorely tempted by my man Haardrade though.

...

Civ 3 wasn't bad. It was just different. Now 4 and 5? They were objectively inferior to their predecessor. I mean if they fucking repacked SMAC with 2016 graphics, they would have a fucking hit. Instead they give us the turd called BE. Now they are trying to shove Civ 6 out with shit tier graphics.

>civ
>xcom
>niche

my point is this is like 2 -> 3 because it isn't just a typical "upgrade the Civ", as it's literally starting new with different mechanics and shit like how the jump from 2 to 3 was

Remember this was the same company that tried to fucking sell a reskinned Civ 5 as the next SMAC for 60 FUCKING DOLLARS. You have to be fucking idiots to trust them after BE.

I'll probably get it soon

I really like the new map and art style. Looks like a proper game now

Don't bother user, most posters hyping this thing are deluded fanboys or literal shills

Oh fuck you. Civ 4 -> 5 had plenty of "new" mechanics as well. Or rather the simplification of mechanics.

I literally want nothing more than for city sprawls to look good and for them to fix the annoying issue of swiss cheese borders that makes your map have holes between your cities.

I literally expect nothing else of you, 2K. Why do you deny me even that.

This is actually a lie, I still want my dynamic leaderheads back but I've lost hope on that

Both 4 and 5 lost features relative to the previous iteration with DLCs. Civ 6 however actually has a lot of the gameplay elements from BNW plus new ones. There is good reason to be optimistic.

>new mechanics
>it's still mostly the same but altering stats and shit

"unpacking shit" is the new "we now have city limits, settlers are not workers"

you mean advisors right? because the leaders are animated as fuck

I think he means the leaders having different clothes which iirc caused a lot of butthurt because Gandhi had a westen suit

No, I mean the dynamic leaderheads from III that would change clothes with each subsequent age, so you'd have queen Victoria starting in the ancient age with just a white tunic and as the eras advanced it would slowly morph into more and more ornate clothing till you had her in full royal regalia

>holes between cities
That will never not be a thing, else border expansion wouldn't be a thing. Just imagine the bits that ultimately will be filled are filled on the world map. Maybe your imagination is powerful enough to calm your autism.

>1UPT
>Hexagons

You have to be fucking insane to think this itself wasn't a huge fucking to the mechanics.

>You have to be fucking idiots to trust them after BE.

You had to be an idiot to buy BE. You could tell just from the trailer that it was Civ V in space.

Of course I fucking didn't. But that doesn't mean BE didn't fucking exist and them trying to sell that POS.

oh that, then you mean era transitioning clothes, was confused by animated leaderheads

oh right those, but at the core it's still literally Civ IV minimalized

considering how much major changes VI has, I feel this is more to the transition of 2 to 3, as not only is VI carrying little baggage of V outside of the tiles and expac focus (religion and espionage), you got people complaining on how "you have to lose the old Civ mindset" on shit like restarting the map because you are a coastal civ yet you're a tile away from the coast

>it was Civ V in space.
If only user, if only

>that feel when The Sims irreparably damaged your ability to enjoy videogames

Ultimately I am thankful this happened.

1UPT and hexagons is a larger change than any stupid city management change that 6 is implement. It is true, you speak like a Civ 5 babby. You have no idea how different 4 and 5 played. But here you are shilling 6 like it is completely different from 5.

I just hope they finally fixed the connectivity issues of the multiplayer, which was borderline unplayable in Civ5.

>I just hope they finally fixed the connectivity issues of the multiplayer
I too wish I was a billionaire sometimes.

>calls someone a baby because he didn't agree
>trivializes major changes to support his cause

nigga I already stated I came from 2, with their shit like walking airplanes and AI magic bombing you unless you pull democracy on them

hexagons are mainly from movement because everyone and their mother move diagonally in older games, so it's not really that big

1UPT is, but I'd argue that's not as big as ranged units actually fighting ranged, and even then I'd argue stacking wasn't a problem back then especially when you siege bomb units

well they gave "bite sized multiplayer" now so there's that

Great Persons are now like wonders.

Am I the only one that just ends up clicking end turn,end turn, end turn? There always seems to be little to do in civ

Play on faster speeds

>Change movement system
>Change how wars are fought
No different.
>Change city management like every fucking civ has done since 2,3,4,5
GAMECHANGING. GROUND BREAKING. WORTH 60 DOLLARS.

Fuck off shill.

Then happiness isn't localized after all, which is what the entire conversation has been about.

This it true but I wouldn't go below 750-800 watt just because I always add a couple of extra fans. It's true that they don't require much but why cut it so close when the difference is cost is minimal? Granted, I have free electricity in my apartment - Otherwise bills would be a bit more expensive too.

the sprawnling cities was something I really loved in Endless Legend, and it always irked me that my cities in Civ never looked like that.

If you are not min maxing and planning ahead, why even bother play 4x games?

They look like that now. But shit. Cause for some reason, they want to draw inspiration from fucking clash of titans.

why would you ever pre-purchase something that hasn't been released? I've never heard of anything more stupid in my life.

anyway, there's like an 80% chance I'm getting Civ VI on release. Love me some Civ but I know of firaxis's flaws.

heheh...you want to access the market?

i've got just the deal for you, goy

don't worry, i won't ask for too much to remove the ban

If you're complaining about the aesthetics, then you're autistic.

If you're complaining about realism, then you're mistaken -- in real life just because a plot of land is smack in the middle of your self-proclaimed borders doesn't mean you have complete control over it, especially in ancient times.

Yes,

I am cautiously optimistic they pulled the right lessons from games like Endless Legends.

I know itll kill many hours and $60 isnt alot to me but the beyond earth stuff left a bad taste in my mouth.

Im still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt but my patience with them grows shorter each year.

Which lesson taught them these graphics were a good idea?

>mudslime
>winning
lmao best they can do is bomb some libtards, only accelerate the world's eradication of them.

I'll be honest. I want a better, an even more quick multiplayer-focused version of Civ Revolution than another Civ game. I don't something too simple like Settlers of Catan, but the simpler parts of the Civ games have always been my favorite. I can barely get through modern ages in Civ games due to how much shit is happening on the screen. I also hate how multiplayer has been handled in Civ games in the past.

districts and agendas mostly

the cartoony graphics dont trigger me, nor the civ leaders

In fact I just wish they went full retard and start with random ass civilizations like the Sogdians, Olmecs, Carthage, Phoenicians, Backtria, Nubia, etc...

>1UPT and hexagons

this
kind of hyped for this game but not hyped enough for pre-order or first day buy
Beyond Earth killed Firaxis for me

The lesson that tablets were a viable market if they downgraded the graphics enough.

Is that a hydra in the back?

Tablets will never have enough processing power for even a semi decent AI. If they put this on tablet, you can officially lose all hope even on this shit being a good game

Oh don't worry, I am fully aware that it's a matter of autism alone.

But as for your comment on realism though, I'd just like to point out that Civ V DOES differentiate between having complete control over a region, and just laying a claim over it without being able to enforce or make advantage of it, considering a city's workable terrain only expands to three tiles away from it, but the borders can keep growing a little beyond that.

>six games plus spinoffs
>still no romania civ

>If you're complaining about the aesthetics, then you're autistic.
Confirmed shitposter.

Vampires get out.

>impaling

yeah, think of them as like a city state.

>AI
>performance heavy
lmao. grafix is always the most taxing shit
xcom:eu was on tablet.

This. Beyond Earth was beyond shit and Firaxis never really provided an explanation or apology or any guarantee whatsoever that they've learned not to fuck players over since then.

Also leaving Mongols out and putting in so many literally who civs is obnoxious as hell. Firaxis stopped being a decent company years ago.

>No Isabella

>Comparing Xcom AI to Civ AI
>A game where the end game CPU turn can take up till a minute a fucking desktop

Don't go full retard user

>tfw very little porn of Civ V

>preordering videogames

...

>my trivialization is right than yours
>SHILL!

what, it is

amenities is happiness

>is obnoxious as hell
No it isn't.

yeah, good thing I can tell which tile is the Burroughs from that screenshot

thanks for confirming Endlessfags are the ones shitting up Civ threads, why won't you guys make your own thread which you samefag repeatedly to create discussion?

How many time have movement mechanics and combat mechanics changed? How many times have city management changed?

aztecs

>Amenities need to be divided amongst your cities
Maybe I'm just reading it wrong, but that kinda makes it sound like amenities are global.

but xcom 2

I'm gonna wait for reviews because beyond earth was fucking SHIT on release

>being this retarded

I'm glad you and others like you are retarded but everyone knows you never buy a game from these faggots right when it releases.

You have to wait one or two years so they can finish fixing and screwing you out of your money. Then you can buy it.

I don't think Firaxis went into many of their games with the intent of making them sexy, and it shows in the loving rule 34 artists give them, or lack there of. There are sexier models out there to use.

>Endless is shit
>Therefore Civ 6 must be good
>X4 lovers must only play 1 X4 game and can't play BOTH endless and Civ

Fucking kill yourself.

What makes this Civilization different from Civ 5?

The graphics are worse. The gameplay looks exactly the same. What's new & improved?

do you know one of the main cpu drains? workers, the AI used to analyze every tile with every worker, putting a hard cap on the number of workers speeds up the game immensely, its the reason why civ6 has workers with "charges"

City management barely changed within the span of 2-5, they're literally just changing stats (bye bye corruption, bye bye pollution, localized bye bye happiness!) or road mechanics (from connect all resources to roads to just the city).

he constructed his statement poorly

each city has their own amenities, and as your pop grows you need to provide enough amenities with said pop, otherwise they'd become unhappy

>The only bonus is that you can play a certain civilization early because it's locked for no fucking reason at all
You're wrong. It's to get people to preorder.

City management changed now.
You can unpack cities now. WORTH 60 bucks.

>There are sexier models out there to use.
They don't strike my fancy as it does to fap to a far hotter than in real life leader.

So what is 6 changing from 5?

>actual 3D terrain features instead of 2D cut outs
>higher polygon everything
>worse

One thing I don't get though is why they are pushing this day night thing. I mean, cool, that will be worth, like, a minute or two of messing around with, I guess.

I didn't say that, I said Endlessfags are responsible for shitting up Civ threads using the examples in this thread, because for some odd reason they can't keep to themselves, not because Endless is shit

apparently they blame Civ for their threads getting drowned in Cred Forums, shouldn't they go to /vg/ since they have a general there

the very fact that you develop cities differently now? that you pretty much need to work with your space now rather than spamming farms and mines? that your workers are now gone? that you can't have the almighty single city power now?

>Say I like Endless asethetics compared to Civ 6
>Apparently this makes me a Endlessfag and all the other projections that you are making onto me when all I said was Endless looked better than the shit 6 is right now

Holy fuck. Seek help. You are insecure as fuck. God forbid someone criticize your game citing another game as a better example.

So different city management?
Or rather. They changed for the workers work?

I agree with that. There should be more porn of historical figures in general. IRL porn I think the limiation is what is the fucking point in dressing up a woman in victorian clothes if you can't get them dirty and when the sex actually begins the person is naked anyway?

SFM gets around that but I don't think it's easy to use models that were only meant for pseudo cut scenes in SFM. And like I said, there are sexier models out there, so most artists probably don't even bother.

The shitty part isn't so much that Beyond Earth sucked on release. It's that it never got better.

Civ V was alright on release, but after all the expansions it became fucking amazing (uh except for the AI).

For that reason I'm not too excited about VI. Because it will either be mediocre on release and I'll have to wait 2 years before it's to the level Civ V is, or it will just disappoint all the way through.

Because you completely miss the point of my post, like you forgot the "I could sure tell where the burroughs are" in my post.

the art style is worse, the graphics are better you pleb

Civ5 was a new start in the series
BE was a Civ5-reskin, but with important features removed

Different city management. Buildings can't just be built willynilly. You can't have that sprawling city where a bunch of wonders are placed. Basically the game now has space management.

There are no more workers. You only have builders which have, by default, 3 "uses". They either build tile improvements or speed up district/wonder construction. Later on you can have engineers which also have charges that build roads (traders however build roads automatically)

Cities aren't one tile, wonders take up tiles, unit promotion trees, civics, government cards or whatever, cities don't have to be on the coast to build harbors and ships, builders instead of workers, roads are built by trade routes, and maybe other stuff I forgot.

The art style is different but not worst.

Hyper realism is overrated as fuck anyways and for a casual strategy game like Civ?The cartooney style works for it much better than previous iterations.

I liked that trade route numbers scaled with cities and I hope that stays in Civ 6.

>how DARE somebody else compare my perfect game to something else
>they're just mindless drones SHITTING UP *MY* thread with other comparable games
Cry more retard.

I bet the Aztecs are going to be OP just to rub it in the face of anyone who doesn't preorder.

Easy to miss your point when more than 50% of your post is raving about endlessfags.

Okay. So different city management. Like 5 from 4. Like 4 from 3. Like 3 from 2.

It's not exactly hard to with the different elevations.
And not to mention, that's the absolute upper bounds for cities in that game, really. The one city faction's city turning into a sprawling mess by end game isn't really a bad thing.

>Pre-order DLC race
Yes. More reason to just pirate this stupid game.

>pirate it
No thanks. They have a reasonable number of civs even not counting the Aztecs. If it is worth playing than it is worth paying for. If it's not worth $60 then I'll just wait until it is cheaper.

>Pirate it
>No thanks
>Advocate pre-order DLC
>After BE happened
Can you be anymore of a shill?

Is the Civilization series worth getting into? Never really tried it, I mostly played Hearts of Iron.

Not him, but that kind of practice needs to end, so I support not buying rather than pirating.

>Advocate pre-order DLC
>implying
Try to keep up.

That is fair.

Visigoth and/or Vandal Civ when?

>I bet the Aztecs are going to be OP just to rub it in the face of anyone who doesn't preorder.

If you guys are patient, one can wait until a major holiday for all the DLCs to be bundled together for a deal on Steam or Gog.

By then youll know if it was good or shit and ifthe DLC fixes that, all at a reasonablish price.

Except I don't believe that this shit should even be DLC.

The Aztecs will be available to everyone 30 days after the game is released.

If you aren't filthy rich then I'd recommend getting an earlier iteration with all DLC when it is on sale. I wouldn't recommend Civ III if you played Civ IV and I wouldn't recommend Civ IV if you'v played Civ V. But if you haven't played any of them then you'll sink a thousand hours into the game regardless.

I recommend getting Civ V with all DLC when it is on sale. It had some fucked up mechanics like global happiness and it trying to combined population limitations with intentional trade, but the combat is more enjoyable and by the time you are done with it Civ VI will be discounted and DLCs will be released.

Thank you, Ghandi.

well now I know I'm being shitposted

I am just going to pirate it to try. And if it is good, I will get it on a sale. Firaxis is never getting 60 dollars from me after BE.

increasing cost of settlers/builders/districts the more you make

*international

also cities need city walls to get the city attack now, and defense buildings can't be bought instantly with gold, if you settle more than your army can defend then shit will just burn

Barbarians are already in the game, though.

>Baltic shit kickers get pushed out of their homeland by Huns
>too stupid to cross the Rhine until it freezes over
>keep running right through Roman territory until the Atlantic stops them in Iberia
>suddenly become expert sailors because they saw a Roman build a ship once
>Roman governor invites Vandals to North Africa to help with an impending Civil War
>just as Vandals get done moving their entire army to Africa the governor tells them "lol, jk. turns out there was no civil war. now GTFO"
>conquer North Africa
>create an Arian theocracy
Most crazy history I've ever heard.

>I don't think I've ever heard of a goy converting to judaism
Maybe if you weren't 12 you would have.

and yet they have included shit like the huns and the Iceni

That's not me advocating it, dumbdumb.

>Spain's leader has awesome animation, full of life and details
>Rome's leader has godawful animation

why

Barbarossa's is worse.

CIV games are never good at launch. Will wait until at least the first expansion is out

I checked it out. It's bad, but definitely not worse.

Trajan is a little stiff, he doesn't appear very charismatic in his movements, and doesn't show a whole lot of emotion.
Barbarossa's problems is that what is being animated just looks stupid

What generally is your problem with Trajan's animation?

Why do people pre-order any video game? You're just committing to buying something before even knowing it'll be good. Worst still is locking rewards behind pre-orders, most egregious example of anti-consumer bullshit that always runs rampant in this industry.

>implying the games were made by the same people
>being too stupid to judge for yourself based on countless videos

>he fell for the beyond shit game

beyond earth looked shit from the start, this doesn't

This. Just wait for the game to be out and pirate it.

>this doesn't

>comparing screenshots from an HD monitor with some shot he got from a YouTube video
Come on now.

>not preordering one day before launch when you know you would buy the game tomorrow anyway, allowing you to preload and play earlier

Still looks like shit senpai

>preloading

if you're gonna do that might as well just download the game itself on launch, when you preload the game takes forever to unpack

nobody plays the game at that zoom level, it's like walking into some random wall in an fps and say "look guys this wall has such a shitty texture, game confirmed shit"

try again

>beyond earth looked shit from the start, this doesn't
>implying

funny because it looks way better than the flat surfaces simulator

...

Civ VI looks better though.

Most importantly, everyone who's played it talks about how clean and distinguishable the tiles look when zoomed out.

I do, I love being able to actually see my units.
If you never zoom in and see what you've got, why don't you just play from the flat map?

>Everyone who got the game early praised the game
Surprise surprise

>got the game early

nigga those are from playable demos in places like E3 or PAX

is Cred Forums intentionally being obtuse

>the graphics are worse

Graphics are not the same as art style, user.

Marbozir made some criticisms in his Civ VI playthrough though.

The artstyle is fine. Cred Forums is just full of babbies who think bright colors aren't mature enough for mature gamers such as themselves.

The real issues with Civ VI are going to be performance, AI, and balance.

>go from 2D trees to actual 3D tree models
>go fron indistiguishable terrain types to distinguishable terrain
>worse

all of this
forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=567144

yeah, here is system requirements btw

I've spent so much time in Civ V that preordering this is a no brainer.

>giving firaxis your money
fuck no

I think my favorite change is losing the automatic notifications of what other players are doing.

But the factions still don't feel like they're unique enough to really make playing one feel different from playing any other.

all factions have something they're really good at, be that civic progress with greece, navy with norway, spreading religion with spain, infrastructure with rome, production/military strenght with germany, and so on.

also keep in mind the more leaders and civs they add, the less super unique each one can be

they are visuals, the one thing that matter

why did you quote me user

yes, but you were using the term wrong earlier

you can still have a graphics-intensive game but still have a cartoonish artstyle

>pre-purchasing digital "goods"
>pc (((gamers)))
JUST

>pre-purchasing games
Kek, nice one user

if it looks good, whats the problem?

>pre-ordering digital games
I really hope no one is this retarded.

>Trajan instead of a Caesar

welp

Also that UA is shit compared to Glory.

there are things that look good but functionally is a mess, and vice versa

you're days late user

there is literally nothing wrong with using Trajan

WTF are you even bitching about? Which Caesar and why must THAT be the leader?

Yeah, because it has specific bonuses to doing that.

>Caesar
>Excellent general
>Shit leader

Trajan is a good pick since Rome isn't military-focused.

I hate the multiplayer so much. First 40 rounds are okay but then turns start taking ages, and processing between turns too.

Wait, I thought it was for mobile?

upvoted for the 1000th time