Hey guys, I'm a Junior Programmer for Ubisoft Reflections, a studio in England. I'm working on the driving engine/vehicle physics for Watch Dogs 2.
Ask me whatever you want about working for ubi, my treatment as an employee or WD2 itself. (Obviously I'm best equipped to answer questions about the driving. I'm not directly involved in any story shit, but we've been drip-fed enough shit from our senior that I can probably give a pretty good idea.)
Bear in mind we're all under NDA, so I can't reveal too much personal info that would point to myself specifically.
N.B. I wasn't involved in WD1, so I can't really say anything about that.
What's your salary ? Or how much money per hour you make?
Jacob Butler
Lots of reasons, honestly. I think the main ones are that higher-ups care more about profits than quality, and employees have had any real passion for their work squeezed out of them.
Xavier Adams
Is WD2 coming out for the NX? And do you have any info on the NX?
Parker Parker
We're not all on same salaries (based largely on position- which is in turn based on how long you've worked there) so I can't say exactly, as that would be linked to me. I can say it's enough to get by as the sole worker in my family, but it really wasn't worth getting a degree.
Jackson Adams
So did you ever look at the game's aesthetic and plot and think 'Who the fuck thought this was cool'?
Joshua Gomez
Why'd you get a job there and not at a studio that isn't full of depressed wagecucks?
Christopher Ortiz
Funnily enough, one of the girls (who does admin work, not actual game development) asked this a couple of weeks ago. Something about wanting it for her son. It was a pretty flat "no, it's not worth it". Sorry to dissapoint.
Asher Cruz
Is porting from the Xbox One to the PS4 or vice versa difficult? Are you guys making adjustments to make the most of PS4 Pro/Scorpio or that's just a meme?
Xavier Davis
It was local. That's really the only reason. I hate working here. A month ago, I was kept in the office for 3 days (this is not an exaggeration. This was literally 3 days, non-stop work) straight, as we're still running behind. No apology, no compensation, just food brought to me so I wouldn't storm out.
Cameron Robinson
Have you thought of applying for a different company? Or would you get some more work experience first?
John Ross
Every day. My job's just doing the driving (I enjoy driving games, so I guess that's alright) so I don't need to worry about it. It feels so cringy- so "fellow kidz"- and I seem to be the only one happy to admit it.
Isaac Parker
I'm in my 30s; work experience isn't the issue. This isn't the first company I've worked for. I have a wife and two kids at home (including one baby) and I really don't want to put them at risk, even if I have to work a job I hate to support them.
Luis Cox
not the OP but you usually don't write a game for one console and then port it over, you separate out all the console specific stuff then swap it over
I definitely recommend you leave as soon as possible, that's an absolutely abusive working environment. I work at codemasters on the F1 games, and while I have no interest in the games themselves, the work environment is great.
Anthony Thomas
What's your favourite driving game?
Colton Richardson
1)It's fine. No real problem.
2) Not yet, anyway. Information's still a bit hazy though.
Kayden Carter
Do you play many video games any more?
Samuel Perez
How do you feel about aggressive advertising?
Connor King
It's such a broad genre that it's difficult to choose one. I just love the concept as a whole. No progressive story bullshit, no stupidly complex characters. Just cars and gameplay.
Parker Hughes
Hey. Good job, I know who you are now. Expect a mail on monday
Zachary Walker
I try, but no. I work till dark, I come home- maybe get to see my wife/older kid if they're still up- sleep and repeat. I honestly think working in this industry has killed my passion for vidya, rather than strengthened it,
Alexander Gray
Is driving important in Watch Dogs 2 or it's just meant as a generic mean for transportation? Also, aren't you worried you could be tracked down by saying what's your function?
Chase Bailey
Funny joke. None of the higher-ups know what a forechan is, and the only colleague I know who comes here goes exclusively on /lgbt/.
Daniel Perez
why do you think higher-ups don't talk about Cred Forums? unprofessionnal, even if you go there
Aaron Perez
1) It's a way of moving faster, basically. It's meant to be easy enough that you can do all the hacking shit at the same time.
2) We're almost all working on this. It's fine. Besides, I could hypothetically be a troll. There's no real proof here that I'm an Ubi worker.
Carter Gonzalez
Inb4 you get all the fucking junior programmers in your studio axed.
Christopher Cook
Could they legally do that?
Wyatt Carter
I've always had the impression that Ubisoft is the closest thing to Acme in video games, as a lot of their products seem similar and bland, perhaps due to how large the teams working on these games are that any sense of identity is worn away by sheer numbers. Is that an accurate description on the dev end?
Lincoln Allen
not in the UK, no, unless they had specific evidence that it had damaged the company
Levi Gutierrez
No, but they can have people behind them every time and have some traps laid in some mails to see who is the actual fuck-up. Happened in a company I worked for before, that's pretty well done but also really stressful.
Chase White
They can certainly find an excuse.
Matthew Hall
>legally As legal counsel for a multinational juggernaut, I can tell you that's hardly relevant. If you really want to axe someone, there's always a way to do it "legally".
Kevin Carter
We're workers, We're given work; we do it. There is no identity, despite what the recent ads try to make you think.
Hudson Cruz
Is Prince of Persia dead forever? This is probably top secret though.
Nolan Thompson
>traps laid in some mails Like what? I'm not sure what they'd do to call someone out for making a thread on Cred Forums.
John Taylor
just seeing who leaks stuff by feeding false information.
Cameron Ross
so you're saying your salary can be traced back to you, but saying you're a junior programming working on the driving physics can't?
Sebastian Evans
I'm surprised by the lack of WD2 questions. Are you all really that uninterested in the game?
Jackson Lewis
why wont you fucking worthless frogs fix rainbow 6 sieges hit registration and fucking hitboxes, every single patch you fuck this game up more and more, when will it fucking stop?
Nicholas Richardson
See 2)
Benjamin Watson
there has been enough marketers those past years to be uninterested in another open world ubisoft game viral thread. Or start saying good anecdotes to get people interested in it.
Julian Johnson
The first one was fucking terrible. Why would anyone be interested in a second one?
Nathan Smith
Is Watch Dogs 2 an SJW tranny fest
Cooper Bailey
As a longtime fan, I sure hope so
Evan Morgan
Are ubisoft done with downgrades ?
Easton Miller
Honestly, if you weren't working on it, would you be?
Charles Bell
Why aren't you working on For Honor instead you cuck?
Adam Watson
Oh yeah. "Diversity" is the key word. They keep trying to push this whole "SF is diverse, so are our characters" meme. It's cringy.
David Smith
Any personal recommendations, though? I usually only play arcade racer type games, if I play driving games, and even then not a whole lot.
Josiah Hill
Anyone working at ubisoft think of Uplay as anything but a pile of shit that makes peoples avoid their games ?
Aiden Campbell
please find a better job user, your family would appreciate a happier dad
Mason Young
>making a sequel to shit dogs >the main character is also black to emphasise how shitty the new games is. Really makes you think...
Ayden Clark
I am, and I'm not interested.
Alexander Allen
That's a shame. Diversity can work if characters are written beyond "I am defined by what I like to stick my dick in".
You might be RPing and you might not be. In either case I hope you and your family are fine man.
Jackson Scott
When's the next Assassin's Creed coming?
Kevin Kelly
How dead is Prince of Persia? How dead is Rayman?
Ayden Reyes
fat chance, but... can you give super vague descriptions on Ubisoft's future products
Noah Powell
>Watch Dogs >For Honour >AC
It's like pigshit, horseshit and dogshit.
Ian Howard
My family's fine. I appreciate the concern, though. :)
Eli Lopez
can you blame us, the first one sucked, and the second one seems to be the same but this time aimed at political and social bullshit
Connor Hall
No. It's not that I won't; I just can't. I don't know.
Luke Wood
>ignoring actual questions to jerk yourself off this is a blatant tripfag attention whoring thread, actually answer shit or fuck off you low level monkey
Noah Harris
I answered the question. I then thanked user for being considerate about my own and my family's wellbeing. Don't be a dick.
Ryan Jenkins
Is the driving any similar to WD1s? If yes I'll know who to blame if it's shit again.
Logan Lewis
In terms of actual storyline, it's not too bullshitty- if VERY anti-Google. Which is probably justified considering the weird shit Google's been trying to pull lately. The thing is, the race/abstract nature of the characters is never even pointed out. There's no self awareness; it's just casually shoe-horned in. They're like normal characters who happen to look like tumblrtards.
Xavier Watson
It's a collaborative effort, don't shove all your blame on me! It's pretty similar to WD1, just easier and with less variety in vehicle types' performance. Moving toward the GTAV style of "hold R2, fastest-looking car wins!"
Julian Wood
Can you tell anything about story of WD2? Did you ever work in industry before Ubisoft?
Bentley Lee
Whats the best game in terms of physic right now ?
Jordan Rivera
Yeah. It's basically a few strings of story arcs with different antagonists, leading up to one main finale act, with an (apparently) impressive amount of side content. Josh, the dull (WHITE MALE) of the group with a lot of skills but no real personality. The one who's never included in any promo art. He betrays you for that last bit.
Jaxson Rivera
Why are you bullshitting everyone with answers that everyone could think of? There's only a few programmers working at a single mechanic at a time and revealing that you're a junior one would pretty much reveal your cover. Piss off reddit prankster.
Blake Powell
Did you graduate from Teesside or Northumbria?
Kayden Adams
You underestimate the shittiness of resource allocation here. If it were good, we might actually release on time. Or maybe you found me out. Who can say?
Caleb Kelly
The driving in the WD2 trailers looks like absolutely garbage, no offence.
Charles Fisher
Neither. Nowhere near here.
Lincoln Walker
In what regard? Serious question.
Jason Campbell
Is that the same studio that made shadow of the beast?
Jose Ortiz
I live in Newcastle and graduated from a Games Prog degree
Landon Jenkins
The first one wasn't that good. I'd give the second one a chance if it wasn't so obviously going to be politically driven with BLM shit and muh oppression.
Do you have any insight about For Honor? That's a game I actually care about
Jonathan Smith
Didn't play the first one and I'm not really interested in the second one. The only thing Ubisoft that would interest me is another Rayman or another Might & Magic.
Ayden Jackson
Ok. Well done, I suppose.
Brandon Wright
Give me another splinter cell
Caleb Barnes
It just looks very floaty and weightless. The subpar damage modeling doesn't help either. A jump with a motorcycle/ATV looked very jarring.
This has been on my mind for so long and it's just been tormenting me for years. Will we ever see Beyond Good & Evil 2? Pls tell me all about it OP
Noah Brooks
What/when will the tachanka buff be?
Ian Taylor
>floaty and weightless Like I say, it's meant to be easy.
Nolan Jenkins
I'd love to be able to answer this, but I simply don't know. I have no way of knowing this.
Sebastian Hill
I'm talking about the car which leaps over the fucking wall 16:40 this has nothing to do with arcade gameplay but shit physic
Jonathan Allen
But easy is boring.
Henry Morris
send a picture of your kid or wife with a timestamp on their forehead so i know youre a real ubisoft employee
Connor Stewart
is city fun to traverse? is it full of small detail? wd1 lacked that.
Kevin Myers
Why were so many games downgraded, was it you all overestimating the power of the 8th gen consoles or was it intentional?
Michael James
It's fine, OP. You tried your best. Just promise me that if you ever decide to snap, you'll kill that son of a bitch Michel Ancel
Julian Ramirez
I know exactly what you mean. It's intended. It means you can just hold the accelarator and forget about driving. You can just focus 100% on hacking. It's not meant to be fun. There's no point in an engaging, challenging driving experience when you can just fast travel anywhere on the fucking map.
Mason Gray
No matter how true OP, refl guys did great job with driver sf, even I prefer sim games I had a lot of fun in driver. So similar physic could really help WD2.
Brody Ross
See Mainly part 2. There are lots of cool (if mostly scripted) details in the world. But mostly on foot. The driving mostly exists for driving missions and for chases.
Brayden Allen
>It means you can just hold the accelarator and forget about driving What a poor excuse. Your car is blocked at 16:40. Its trying somehow to leap over the wall. This is shitty physic admit it
Joshua Murphy
Thanks. I know that shit sounds small, but I really miss praise. It's just not something I get anymore.
Andrew Jones
Have you met Yves Guillemot and if so, is he truly as faggy as he comes across on video?
Andrew Reyes
Is Yannis Mallat a fucking cunt?
Dominic Gonzalez
I'm not denying that. I say again: realism was sacrifised for the sake of ease.
Logan Evans
heard any radio stations? last game was fucking awful when it came to music. is it any better(or at least they put some effort into them)?
Cameron Gutierrez
Is Ubisoft your first games job? Do you still want to work in games after this?
Austin Ross
Never met either of them. I've heard Guillemot is a nasty man in person, though I try not to make judgements based on word of mouth.
Jack Rivera
why is it ubisoft games cant get driving done correctly? the only thing close to real is the crew and that game had terrible physics but at least it didnt feel like driving a brick.
Matthew Torres
can't you guys just make a fucking M&M game in which I can lead millions of skeleton warriors, destroying everything on my path?
Also fuck paladins
Charles Sullivan
Couple of things: A) I thought WD1's music selection was cool. This is going to sound VERY shilly, but I liked how each song/artist pertained in some way to Chicago. But my taste in the actual music is probably not that great. B) Lots of black/anti-authouritarian shit in WD2. Shit like Run The Jewels's "fight tha power!" kinda message.
Gabriel Edwards
Are you guys ever going to release Ubiart as an open source program?
How does it feel knowing that the higher ups killed Rayman?
Gabriel Bennett
I'll fuck you up skele,back the fuck up
Bentley Gutierrez
Well, now I see how it could be even worse if they were aware of it.
Jose Price
IT AIN'T ME
John Clark
>How does it feel knowing that the higher ups killed Rayman? How do you think seeing your happiness and memories crushed by the people who control your payments feels?
Juan Sanchez
What do you think about Forza Horizon 3? Thinking about picking it up on PC.
Matthew Reyes
Damn man. If you were to set fire to the whole building, how would you do it? Asking for a friend.
Colton Thompson
any cool features that were cut out/left unfinished?
Kevin Garcia
Favourite place to eat in Newcastle? other than your desk
Thomas Morales
Damn, that sucks...
What's Michel Ancel doing now? I read that he has his own game company now
Carson Harris
Heroes of Might and Magic.
What is wrong with you? Are you ashamed?
Dominic Walker
I think get what games you think you'll enjoy. The fact that I work in the industry doesn't make my opinion on what you should like or dislike any more valid. Although if you do want it, I've heard the PC port is pretty good.
Wyatt Perez
Does Wrench stay a cool guy the entire game? Also is it true that you'll be able to go through the game without killing anyone? Like are there forced shootout segments where you have to rely on the bolo?
Lincoln Gomez
>It's not meant to be fun.
Well I guess this about sums up almost every modern Ubisoft title
Justin Ross
NEW DRIVER WHEN CASUAL FILTER TUTORIAL WHEN
Isaac Sanchez
Wherever's least busy. Like, a coffee shop or greggs or whatever. I don't trust ubi not to pull some KONAMI-level hijinks and monitor where we all go to eat to identify me. You live in Newcastle? I wouldn't have expected that many anons around here.
Christian Price
But that makes them sound competent at doing something.
Zachary Wood
Is Aiden in the game? What happened to him?
Julian Ramirez
>Does Wrench stay a cool guy the entire game? If he's your idea of chill, then sure. >is it true that you'll be able to go through the game without killing anyone? Oh yeah. There's no real change in terms of gameplay (a la MGSV) for going non-lethal or lethal. Just different methods of eliminations and a nice challenge if you're interested.
Kevin Cooper
Not in the main story. I don't know anything about the minor campaigns outside of rumours, and that's one of the rumours.
Jordan Lee
First time seeing it and I hate it already. It's not just cause 2 bad (which I think it got worst driving physic ever) but it close, for other reasons though. How most people said, it feel weightless. Ways to make it little better doesn't have to invlove physic itself, just the presentation. First thing sensitivity, it's way too much. Second, body roll on corners, there is like none of it. Third camera, make its movement little smoother. This alone, without changing physic itself could make it more eye pleasing. Also, there has to be someone who worked on driver sf in studio who could fix it, that game was as arcade as possible, but damn it was fun to drive around.
Anthony Turner
What's the most enjoyable part of the job?
Lincoln Wright
I saw him in a cutscene in a video that Giantbomb put out that involved him fucking with a toaster and I liked his dialogue and helmet
William Robinson
A lot of this stuff (e.g. camera) is still up for tweaking. I'll see if I can subtly suggest this. >there has to be someone who worked on driver sf in studio There are multiple. We're working toward a less shitty version of what we have right now, basically.
Lucas Mitchell
So why does Ubisoft think UPlay is an even remotely good idea? On top of Steam, no less. Does this fuck with your ability to code at all, having to account for an extra launcher on top of a launcher?
Jace Bell
Still me, but yes. Honestly, I've been pretty close to properly applying to Reflections too. But your concerns relate to my fears of it. Low pay and poor working conditions - which may more sadly lead to a lower motivation to make games.
Chase Cooper
wd2 uses denuvo?
Landon Fisher
More oversteer!
John Stewart
I'd love to be able to say "working with my passioun: video games", but that's not it anymore. My favourite part of the job is payday.
Jaxson Diaz
Why do your devs harass and try to blackmail women into dating them on the internet?
Also Ubisoft have gone to absolute shit.
Henry King
Don't fuck it all up again
Fucking ubisoft
Gavin Green
Not really. It was meant to be a big, central hub for Ubisoft gamers. Thing is, anybody who's enough of a fanboy to get excited about that, doesn't need anymore convincing to stick with us.
Andrew Wright
Godspeed, dadfag. I feel for you.
Nathan Barnes
>Ubisoft have gone to absolute shit. Why do you think I need to be told this. >Don't fuck it all up again There are far too many people working on this game for no fuck ups to occur.
Ethan Bennett
Sell the rights to HoMM and M&M!
It is evidently that you have no love for this series! Let it go!
Sebastian Gutierrez
Honestly, I'm fine with the way I'm treated. Pay's alright, and I can deal with long hours. I really wouldn't recommend coming here, though. If nothing else, you might accidentally rat me out about this thread. It's nice to meet another Geordie around here though.
Tyler King
>Why do you think I need to be told this. I'm British, I can't help but tell you frogs how much I hate you.
Lucas Morales
>frogs Read the location of this studio again, bong.
Brody Sanchez
How much do you earn=
Chase Harris
Have a peek at
Liam Ward
Where would you rather work instead if you could?
Ian Turner
Obviously not your department but in general how shady are some business practices? Do you "favour" certain sites more than others? What are your working conditions like? I think I remember reading somewhere that people would leave and received glares from co-workers for leaving so "early".
Ethan Peterson
Somewhere with better pay/better conditions. I have no real sentimental ties to any company in particular.
Jack Hall
Has WD2 all you've worked on or is that it? Do you already know your next project (and what it is, but I doubt you can say that)? I know you said you worked three straight days, is development still on time? Or is it a day to day monitoring of where things stand.
Anthony Reed
I might just come for an interview anyway Sick of working at Accenture
Julian Garcia
>Obviously not your department but in general how shady are some business practices? >Do you "favour" certain sites more than others? I don't know, and I can't really say I care. >What are your working conditions like? I touched upon this earlier. Basically, I've found myself in the office for days in a row without compensation. We're not really treated as individuals, so much as we are as a "team" [read: "hive"]. Particularly at Reflections, they try to push this whole eclecticism bollocks, where we're a diverse and varied group coming together under one banner. In reality, we're a group of drones coming together to put whatever features they want in their games.
Andrew Long
I'm being sincere when I say don't bother. You won't enjoy the work. It's effectively office work with worse deadlines and worse treatment.
Juan Mitchell
I've done other stuff before WD2. The gane will release on time; they're adament of that. Its quality on release, on the other hand, remains to be seen.
Easton Brown
Have you seen the NX controller?
Ayden Jones
It's okay. I won't really. God speed though you lovely bastard. May your metro run on time.
Jaxon Edwards
What are your thoughts about one of ubisoft dev at blue bytes harassing women online ?
Gavin Powell
He's asking for your informed opinion. The fact that you enjoy driving games and work on driving in games makes your opinion on driving games credible.
Landon Williams
Another downgrade?
Cameron Davis
Is Dusan actually a good guy, and Marcus and Deadsec in the wrong?
Wyatt Smith
Well OP 1) Do you think you'll have to help with a massive day one patch before release? 2) What is the team's morale at this point? WD1 was overhyped and had a lukewarm reception, and from what I'm guessing working on a sequel to a game a lot of people had issues with sounds terrifying.
Noah Young
Can you guys do anything right?
Your games are worse than cancer. Why the fuck would you make WD2 after the flop of WD1?
Lincoln Murphy
This is genuinely strange to me. I never expected to meet someone from Newcastle online at all, least of all on Cred Forums. May the "modernisation work" never be happening on your line.
Wyatt Taylor
>reflections WHERE THE FUCK IS MY NEW DRIVER GAME
Also I noticed you guys co-developed The Crew. I assume you were the ones that unfucked everything.
Ethan Gutierrez
Why Ubisoft wasting talent of all those programmers and graphic designers?
Nathaniel Brooks
It's wrong. It's shitty. It's no more my issue than any other case of harrassment. Quite likely. Very dangerous, though. Lots of people seem to be holding WD2 as Ubisoft's last-chance saloon. In regards to morale, some of us are just treating this as another job. No real passion left in us at this point. There are a few fairly peppy ones, still. Mostly women. I think so. Marcus and his merry men are massive fucking hypocrites. I'm not sure if it's bad writing, or an honest representation of a lot of hacktivists. "We wanted to build on the awesome potential of WD1" is the PR answer. "SJW bux" is the real answer.
Noah Miller
"Unfucking" is effectively part of the job description, especially for the Driver SF veterans,
Brayden Jenkins
Why does Ubisoft kiss Nintendo's ass and then shit talk them when Sony is in the room?
Kevin Rodriguez
Because Nintendo's a cute concept. Sony is a profitable one.
Hunter Davis
Hey OP, just dropping by to say I graduated from Newcastle in comp sci in 2013 and work in web dev, think a couple of people I spoke to ended up at reflections but I don't have any contact Lovely city, shame your job sounds so awful
Grayson Wood
That's neat. I probably know a few. Small world, I suppose.
Jayden Long
kinda unrelated: which do you think will fare better in the next ten years: small indie teams like Unknown Worlds and Re-Logic, or one-man sensations like Tobyfox and ConcernedApe?
Brandon Rivera
My personal opinion? One-man teams will succeed more. People like the whole indie vibe that comes from one man making an entire game, regardless of quality. I think it's a shame, as small indie teams can make much better games than just one person on their own, but lack exposure for not being "indie enough".
Aiden Bennett
It was nice answering questions for you guys. I'll probably be around again in the later Ubi/WD threads, so you can try summoning me again if you like. I'm always happy to talk about my job with you guys. :)
Owen Jones
I've been playing the crew since I got it for free, how is calling all units looking? Does ubi see a future in the game?
Gabriel Sullivan
Are you making anything yourself? Or wanted to/have done before?
Nicholas Harris
I made a couple of really small games as proof when I was applying for jobs. I've never really been all that interested in being an indie developer. It's too much responsibility, particularly in the creative department.
Cooper Morris
Right, I'm going to bed now; I need to catch up on sleep. As i said, I'll probably be lurking in future Ubisoft or Watch Dogs threads, so call if you need me.
Ayden Brown
Are you going to make another shit Splinter Cell?
Samuel Kelly
Think he's gone, user.
Cooper Turner
>SJW bux That's dumb. SJWs dont spend money on games.
Jeremiah Garcia
>We wanted to build on the awesome potential of WD1 They actually thought the first had any potential?
Ayden Green
If it isn't meant to be fun, why is it in the game? You aren't making games for teh sake of it, you aren't making games because you feel that they are art, then why don't you try to make good and fun games?
I know the reason: market research and target demographic trends, but come on, you are pissing us all.
Thomas Morales
How many are assigned to regression?
You should be able to answer
Nathaniel Robinson
Do you think that mankind will ever develop technology which allows us to intercept an 'Escape' key press during video playback, thus enabling is to not sit through hours and hours of shitty, over-long cut scenes?
Connor Rodriguez
no; they control the media so cuck gamers spend for them.
Robert Lewis
Why did you make the main character in watch dogs 2 look like a huge faggot?
Sebastian Barnes
I'm going to be completely honest if you are in fact a dev, I work for 2k won't get too much into detail but a friend got me to test out WD2 a week ago
I enjoyed the driving in it much more than the first but god damn the voice acting is seriously try hard hip
Who write the lines?
Blake Turner
Why don't you get a "normal" software job that pays more then?
Julian Garcia
How come ubisoft hasn't made a single good game in years
How come ubisoft is the only companyi n the planet who seems to make their games shittier each year
Like you cannot think a game could be more dull and terrible and yet they always surprise you.
Other companies at least make one good-ok game and then they ruin it on purpose
Ubisoft gives the vibe that they are actually "happy" with their shit games like it wasn't on purpose
Jeremiah Reyes
>and the only colleague I know who comes here goes exclusively on /lgbt/.