What do you play when you're depressed?

Contemplation with a rope.

we should be friends

Do you cum multiple times or...?

take my meds and stop caring about anything

Twice.
I don't wanna.

Animal Crossing and porn honestly. I've felt like shit the past 3 months, dad started bitching at me because I lost a ring he pawned like the useless junkie he is before he went to prison because I had to move. He's either sick,depressed, or angry everyday and I hope he dies soon because he brings me down to his level. I'm a shitty person...

drive.google.com/open?id=0B8_YGUZasFM5S1pSMENLU2VTQUU

I play video games.

whatever I dont care

Yoshi's wooly world, or mario generally. Maybe just listen to some audio of birds.

Disney Kart Racing when? I'd buy it but my favorite movie wouldn't get in.

Do the wine make you feel that way or the xans?

>i will never kart race as gaston while the gaston song plays in the background.

Something new. Never play a game I already played. It's gotta be something that'll make me look at the clock and go "oh fuck it's 4am".

Pretty much my go to any time I'm depressed/angry/ect is do somthing new. I taught my self how to play warhammer table top recently. Made me want to paint models and focus on shit. Got the German Rosetta stone program torrented. I made replicas of dark souls and monster hunter weapons using techniques I never tried.

Your depressed because of the shit that's happend. Do somthing you haven't already done.

OS RuneScape. It's a nice game to zone out on.

Right now I'm wandering through an old MMORPG I used to play on my downtime in high school.

It's dying. Only 92 people on there right now. Managed to find one person and they said the servers would be shut down soon.

So right now I'm just wandering around aimlessly, reliving my past.

osrs was not good for me
in two weeks after making my account I had over a week of playtime

>Never play as Hercules,Phil,Megara, and Hades while driving on Hydra Way.

I miss 2D animation more and more every day and regret never having seen Princess and The Frog.

Thanks, good advice.

When i'm feeling down, I reach for Sierra Mist, the only uncaffeinated citrus beverage with the taste of an appalachian pine forest!

Breath deep user, It's Sierra Mist!

Monster Hunter, especially when I'm feeling lonely since the multiplayer community is really friendly and I can not feel as lonely since I know I'm making a difference in my hunting group. Doing gathering quests can be relaxing as well if I need to chill out.

Hotel Dusk, followed by Cape West.

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Cred Forums is really full of kids

Real talk, Sierra Mist is pretty good

So how can i get fun alcohol effects without getting sleepy as shit

are you old enough to be using this site? I'm sure they teach at least a little brain chemistry in 10th grade biology

This is some bleak shit

Time consumes everything

Inject vodka directly into your bloodstream

Tetris, minesweeper. Just simple shit like that is surprisingly distracting.

Borderlands has that, I'm not sure about 2 though.

I like to relive my past too but I just watch old anime openings and try to sing the songs too.
Makes me remember times when I used to be happy.

thats a good thing

This shit right here

Drink more. I now get more energized the more drunk I get. I annoy the shit out of my friends because I try to force them to watch shit at 4 AM after coming back from bars.

t. manbabies

Cred Forums

I know that feel. Logged onto Aetolia for the first time in years and walked around three days by myself until I found another person. When I did, they just followed me around endlessly, probably because I was the first person they'd seen in weeks/months. I couldn't deal with it. Logged out and never went back.

The abandonment in old games is amazing.

Doesn't work for me.
I end up even more sleepy.

>what do you play when you're depressed
I play the "Keep refreshing Cred Forums while scrolling through steam library and listening to Beach House" game

>drink alot
>always have complete mental control just get dizzy and shit.

Everyone Fucking lied. I tried everything for years. I don't get buzzed, I don't forget my troubles, ect. I just get a little off balance or black out. There is no in between.

The game is Sherwood Dungeon if any of you feel like wandering around a soon-to-be dead game.

Right now it's just me and someone else from Cred Forums, and a bunch of spanish speakers. Room 4.

I don't lose control it does make me happy tho, but that might just be because I'm around family.
I've never gotten drunk alone, seems like I'll just get sadder.

Hatred.

I bought it and I actually enjoy killing people.

(You)

I could really use some alcohol right now.
But I hate feeling like I wasted money.

Every game, since I'm always depressed.

Are isometric games like hatred and xcom actually fun?
I've never played them.

just get some cheap shit vodka

When people make me feel upset, I usually play that game to turn humans into a bloody sponge.

Drakengard or any other kind of musou.

pirate it if you wanna try.

Xcom and hatred are very different games.

Here you go friend.

Also I jerk off a lot and drink more.

a videogame

a game with good music , like jet set radio for example
youtube.com/watch?v=HSZIej-ZraE

Lay down and listen to Pink Floyd or Draconian

I always want to log into CoH again. Just fly or super jump around. Save the day.

Then I realize I can't and it gets worse.

Drink a lot of alcohol and play literally anything till I get sleepy
That's been my whole week actually

Katamari Damacy cures depression.

/thread

usually a long jrpg
but i'm all out
XV was supposed to be the stopgap
now that's not until november

time to wither and die since i can't find a single game on steam or PSN i want to buy or play at all

I miss that

...

I played that I think. I remember it was Sherwood something and I remember playing it in computer class because fuck the typing bullshit.

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>been depressed for as long as i can remember
>today met a girl who i really want to get to know better
>feel nervous but also happy
>haven't felt this way in years so my mind and body are rejecting it making me feel restless

I play "wanking & crying 2016"

>Be a generally happy person
>Suddenly 2016 hits and all I want to do is die
What the fuck happened?

What's the most painless way to kill yourself?

>met a girl i want to know better
>she sent me lewds and hasnt been the same since
>blows me off in the only shitty sense
>never wants to play games or anything else
>never responds to my texts, might have creeped her out
FUCK

helium mask

Exit bag

Something easy that you're good at. I liike playing Civ 5 on prince and steamrolling the AI's once I get strong enough.

She sent you lewds then blew you off?

Was she a slut?

nothing. which is why I haven't played anything in months

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"hide the dragon dildo"

jack of all trades but a master of none

undertale

seriously, don't play that game if you're depressed. you just may kill yourself

Enjoy Oomori Seiko, OP

youtube.com/watch?v=qB6Sqkb6zYE
youtube.com/watch?v=kL-2kHx3NxU

Jumping off a building and landing head first

i remembered playing Soul Reaver when i was a kid but never finishing because too spooky.
Finished Soul reaver 1, 2 and blood omen 2. Of course i also watched blood omen 1 first because the gameplay didn't look too appealing to say the least.
I will continue with Defiance tomorrow.
Also masturbate before going to sleep.

Hotline Miami 1 and 2, Bessiege, M&B Napoleonic wars

Why are you so depressed all the time? Why don't you just be happy?

>le depression is a choice meme

Because long-term chemical and structural changes in the brain are hard to overcome, specially if said changes, i.e depression, makes you take bad decisions that will likely not help restore this changes.

>tfw you can't even drink alcohol to dull it all out

help

Read this.

Honestly, unironically, this, OP.

All you can do is put on your smile and go out in the world user, depression or not
I have self-worth issues and paranoia due to manipulating all the people I meet and the fear that they secretly hate me for my lack of redeeming qualities beyond my humor and smile, but I keep on smiling user
Maybe what your dealing with is similar to what I am, and maybe putting on a smile will help?

Sounds dumb but a little bit of spiritual food for thought goes a long way

I played Undertale and had no emotional connection to any of the characters. I felt pretty indifferent to the True Pacifist ending.

i hope i dont wake up

True

life is shit and people are gay and stupid. The degree to which I am a depressive faggot with no patience for all of people's dumb bullshit means I have almost no chance of being successful. And some nights I come to the conclusion that in some point in the future I will kill myself with a terrifying certainty.

Everyone who is depressed- please take this to heart. It is absolutely true, and you ARE in control of how you respond to things no matter what is or isn't going on with your brain chemistry.

Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you deal with it.

I like the stories and respect the messages but I've never really been a big religion guy. I'm going to be an bad person and a good person all at the same time nothing more I can do about it except whistle a tune and sing a song to brighten my day.

Nothing, have no drive to play games, can't escape reality in them, but anime works for some reason. I don't watch it otherwise.

Games from my past, so that I can remember what it was like to experience wonder and happiness.

Beach House is perfect for when I feel depressed

I believe this is possible.

That is complete bullshit. It's 100% what you are doing. There are certain things you can be doing to mediate it no matter where you are like working out or finding hobbies but it isn't completely in you head. You have to actively do things to improve your mindset.

I bitch to my friends until they make me happy again, then I go out and meet up with people and have a good time playing smash, CoD, or all sit in a room and play Overwatch.

Life's too short to be depressed, you should all just tell your friends, they'll help you.

Depression is just a meme anyways.

Go outside
Read a book
Eat some healthy food like fruits
Talk to people, preferably decent ones

video games

Chavo Kart

>high pitched flat singing

I used to restart on that shit constantly.

Because i got fired from a cool place where i could shitpost on Cred Forums all day and get paid

Were you fired for shitposting on Cred Forums all day?

>mind over matter hurrr

No

Clinical.
Didn't find out till about 4-5 months ago, I've been trying to come to terms that everything I've been through so far has been out of my depression and I never really had much control over it.
Been on the anti-depressants for a while and they help a little, it gets me up and going and not wanting to sit and do nothing.

Oh of course, absolutely.

I meant the mindset WHILE taking actual steps to change your situation. Frustration is the best motivator.

Look at this guy It is true though that you don't have any right to feel sorry for yourself. It's in your control if you want to change.

>actively do things to improve your mindset

Once again this is exactly true but I wanted to clarify one thing- your attitude is still a heavy factor. You should then do things to enforce and reinforce that, and before you know it you're snowballing in good thoughts

Nice image
t. this is my first post in this thread

See, when people say "all you have to do is X" I think, yeah and all you have to do to go to the moon is fly there. It is skipping over thousands of steps that are all required.

This book is quite fun until you realize what angels are humanoid race from another planet who's violently raped our women.

I'm not talking about complex things. I mean finding a hobby you are genuinely interested in and dedicating time to it. I mean running for an hour or so, taking a walk for a little if you really don't want to run. Things like that not something super complicated. It seems like it's a hundred steps sometimes but that actually is in your head, sometimes it's not as big of a deal as you think.

> Working out help depression
> Stops working out once you get depressed
Didn't think that one trough, did you faggot?

That's fair, I understand being vague isn't helpful.

Listen to this guy, though. Start small.

Not him but you still have to put in effort, even if it's small steps at a time.

It certianly won't change overnight but if you go slow with small steps, within X amount of time you would be further than if you didn't start now, as opposed to being nowhere and in the same place X time from now.

Even take 1 month. Your brain can drop or gain a habit in about a month. Maybe for the next month dedicate yourself to running or taking up a new hobby or diving deeper into an older one, anything.

I did, you force yourself to do it. Shame yourself so there is no option but to work out. It's one of the reasons I didn't kill myself last year

I sit in a dark room and play GTA Online. I'll fly the Duster biplane above the clouds and just bask in the feeling of being free.

I just started playing a bunch of DS games for the first time. I had a PSP in high school, so I missed out on a lot of good titles. Just started Hotel Dusk then Ace Attorney: Trials and Tribulations. Got a New 3DS XL to play on too, so might replay Ocarina of Time or Super Mario 3D Land. Just finished my first playthrough of Dead Rising in about 8 years and felt so alive. It was one of my favorite games in High School and replaying it on new hardware felt refreshing. Played through Resident Evil 4 again before that. I've dabbled a bit in Overwatch here and there. It's not bad but I need to get used to it. Recently tried the new Battlefront DLC since I got the Season Pass for free and it looks GORGEOUS. Gameplay is still meh though.

I have gamed a hell of a lot more in the last month than I have in about 2 years. The reason?

I quit drinking. 50 days sober today. I look and feel a lot better and smile more. Fuck, even being on Cred Forums is better; I'm not irrationally angry by everything anymore and my panic attacks have disappeared. I highly recommend it.

No shit it doesn't help if you don't fucking do it you retard, that's like saying
>medication helps schizophrenia
>stops working once you stop taking it

The whole point is that it's been demonstrated (harvard studied it, I can post a link if you want) that exercise is as effective in the treatment of mild to moderate depression (what almost everyone with depression has. Yes, that includes you) as medication or therapy, and there's evidence that it's vital to recovery from severe, though it's harder to measure.

>50 days sober

Congrats, user!

>exercise as an effective treatment for mild to moderate depression

Absolutely true. And better than shitty drugs

Thank you. It was hard at first, since I was drinking every single freaking day. But I always justified it because it was never alone or in the morning. It was "social" so it was fine. But I was always blackout while everyone else just drank to have fun.

Depression sucks, anons. Don't respond to trolls that try to tell you it's in your head and to "get over it." But, coming from personal experience; cutting drinking out and a lil' bit of exercise each day does wonders. You might even find that you like video games again...

The doctor said I have adjustment disorder and recommended me medication for autism. Something called risperidone, do you know how bad that makes me feel?

Saints Row IV

Nothing wrong with being you, user. No matter what anyone says. I know sooo many people that, on the surface, you would look at and assume they are just run-of-the-mill normal folk. But, in reality, they are just as troubled and in need of help in different ways.

Christ, almost everyone is on some sort of medication now. Nothing to be ashamed about.

I've been on it, though for a different disorder, and it depends entirely on the dosage, and on you.

You'll feel pretty sedated for a while until you get used to it unless you start on an insanely low dose, and you need to have regular checks of your prolactin levels, but your doctor will handle that.

You'll likely be on a low dose though, so you should be fine.

And the same as for every psychiatric medication, or any medication really, my experience with it won't be yours. What side effects I get aren't the same as what you might get. So take it, but ask your doctor to take it slowly.

>Depression sucks, anons. Don't respond to trolls that try to tell you it's in your head and to "get over it.

Eh, I think it depends on the case. A lot of the time (particularly on /r9k/ or /adv/), people just diagnose themselves with depression when what they're experiencing is pretty normal for their situation, and in that case going "if you stop obsessing over how you're totally mentally ill and you're the victim, you could easily improve your situation and get out of it".

But sure, if you have no real reason to be depressed, you can't just get over it, the same as any disorder.

Oh, wait, did you mean bad as in how the medication would make you feel, or bad as in what said and being given the medication is what made you feel bad?

Yes it is something to be ashamed about. I don't give a shit about what other people think is acceptable, having someone prescribe you medication in response to a diagnosis that isn't even certain makes me feel a little bit uneasy.

Then see another doctor? My cousin had a doctor tell him he had autism. He went to get a second opinion that day; turned out he had a fucking concussion.
Not saying you have a concussion or brain issues, user. Just saying sometimes a second opinion means a lot more than the first.

I'm the guy who misunderstood what you said, and the part about being given meds for an uncertain diagnosis is normal.

I've never seen a case where a doctor waits to be absolutely certain what it is before they try to treat it, because it can take years to properly diagnose a disorder. They get a basic idea what it could be, and try something, because stopping your symptoms is more important than what name that group of symptoms has.

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I try to make friends, I really do.
No one writes back to me unless I write first, almost like I have to beg for my existence to be validated.
Dropped out of my course (Medicine) due to being retarded at studying and not getting any help from friends. Now I'm in Science with an aim to do graduate medicine.
At least I'm performing well academically now. Gyming, studying, browsing Cred Forums and vidya keeps me sane. Maybe I'll try to learn piano over the summer break.

Ace Combat.
Fuck I'll play ace combat anyway.

I got sent to the hospital again on the same grounds and he didn't prescribe me any drugs. It's not a good feeling to have someone prescribe you medication for a problem you, yourself don't think you have. Namely, the figure of every psychological drama involving a character who is "clinically" insane or some other problem.

Ya the second time I went back I wasn't prescribed anything at all. So it's confusing to sit in a hospital overnight wondering when someone will try and validate the diagnosis, if at all. The second guy didn't even apply the same diagnosis as the first, so it was plain screwy and rushed. There's nothing to make you feel more helpless than that.

>no friends
>socially retarded
>not good at anything
>going to die a failure in life
>self-hatred
>lazy
>realization that people are arrogant unbearable shitstains in the underwear of life
>girls don't like you
take your pick.

Why did you go to the hospital instead of a psychiatrist user? That doesn't really sound like an appropriate facility to get a second opinion on a diagnosis in, unless you're already in a psych unit, which you're not based on you being able to talk to us right now.

t. angsty teenager

They didn't want to send me into the medical bay again, and the first time I was there, I would have had to stay all night.

Yes, but why were you there in the first place instead of just booking an appointment with another doctor as an outpatient?

Most people don't go to hospital when they need to see a doctor, especially for mental illness.

Whew, lad.

Take steps to improve your situation. Be bolder in social interactions, start with small steps like making small comments to cashiers or whatever and build up to bigger conversations with other people.

If you're in school, maybe find a gaming club (as autistic as those can be, you might find some well-adjusted people). That'll be an easier environment to talk in for you I'm sure. It doesn't have to be that, just anything where you'd be more comfortable.

Not good at anything? What does that even mean?

Most people are pleasant, you're miserable man. Your perception is poisoned.

Don't be so self-defeating, that's why girls don't like you. Miserable people give off a negative vibe and girls especially don't take well to that (they're aware of their emotions at every given moment).

I'm socially clumsy too but you just roll with it.

>going to die a failure in life
Sheesh, with that attitude you will...Good thing you still have time.

If you don't change your mind and how you approach life, if you don't start putting effort in to change what you want to change about yourself, then you won't stop being miserable. It doesn't just go away magically one day, you have to make a conscious effort. And even then not everyone will like you, but so what? People will.

Oh, because the grounds on which I went to the hospital in the first place weren't of a psychological basis. I was admitted into the hospital for bleeding, and I was put in the psych ward after I told them what happened during the altercation. The same thing happened the second time, except I wasn't bleeding a whole lot, and the removal from my house was actually a criminal endeavor or whatever you call the infringement of rights. The grounds on which I was removed from my house weren't justified and cause for an actual investigation should I have the balls to go into it, but I didn't really want to give myself something to do, let alone get my family wrapped up in another police drama.

Wait, so you attacked people trying to evict you from your home? That does sound like it's grounds for a psych eval in a hospital.

Do you often get violently angry at people like that? Because if so, that's why you're on risperidone, or why you were given it at least.

Nah, my brother beat me up after I told him to mind his own business repeatedly.

Blood Omen. My existence is one of constant pain and despair so I connect with Kain a lot.

Oh, and they put you in a psych ward for that? That seems strange, was that the whole story?

i fumble my words a lot when i talk. i'd rather be silent than sound like a babbling bafoon. the other thing i didnt note is that my default facial expression is apparently too scary for girls to approach. for fucks sake its just my neutral poker face. i cant be smiling 24/7. realism bleeds into pessimism and vice-versa. i know when im going to fail at something or when im out of my league with chicks.

>Not good at anything? What does that even mean?
i have no applicable skills to exploit for a well-paying job. the only thing worse than being a loser is being a broke loser. also chicks don't fuck with no broke niggas.

sometimes i can slip jokes into my few stable conversations to give people a laugh, but then i start to wonder if what i said was genuinely funny or they're just faking a laugh to pity me.

Where in the Bible does it say that?

Pretty much, I got into an argument with my mom, he got involved with his girlfirned in the basement, I told him to go somewhere, and he wouldn't listen, so then it turned into a screaming match even though the situation had little to do with him (this is how every fight pretty much pans out, none of the situations have anything to do with him), and he defended my mom from me despite me not harming her, and despite her putting her hands on my throat at one point, for reasons I don't really understand either.

The whole thing is confusing because all of them pretend they never did anything, while my existence in the house goes from bad to worse for seemingly non-existent reasons. I keep in contact with everyone normally, I see everony daily and I have a reasonable line of communication open between all my family members in the house, so I'm just confused. I told my mom I was cutting myself, she didn't think anything of it at the time, and then she waited until my brother was beating me up in the living room to call the cops as if her savings grace would be to involve the authorities in a situation where the crime is "victimless." So I don't really get it, my brother and my mother both have problems that I don't like, but I don't ring the m up on it because it's up to most people to decide how they live their lives. I didn't beg for help during any altercations, I just asked my family to understand and respect me, which they ended up doing anyway, after it became visually apparent that I have literally no defense against either of them in the house.

Well, if what you're saying is exactly what happened, the best advice I can give you is to tell this to a person at the hospital (if you're still there, I'm kind of not sure on that), and to move out as soon as you can, because that's an incredibly shitty situation you shouldn't have to deal with.

I don't know, I don't have any reason to lie and even if I did it wouldn't benefit me to b ring you this far into the situation on an imageboard.

Nah, I didn't think you were lying, but sometimes people present things in a biased way that they're upset about. We all do it to some degree.

Still, I'd say getting out of the house is a good choice to make.

The problem is virtually unsolveable.

I went to work for a while and had a similar problem with coworkers, and I would have situations where tourists of a large volume would make me out to be some sort of saint comparatively. I don't see the problem getting better by moving away from my family and into the area and arms of unfamiliar people.

It's time for your medicine, user

4am is time to sleep.

me on the far left

get real drunk/high and freeze yourself to death.

I stutter too. Maybe take speech therapy? Even if it's just yourself. Practice sentences slowly when you're alone. I remember taking speech therapy in kindergarten. I recall saying sentences with the word "chair" in them helped, but it may have just been my specific speech impediment. I literally solved it for a number of years but it comes back, and then I just need to slow my mind down when I talk. Sometimes I get "set back" and it takes some time of talking very slowly before it's back to being natural. Just say some bullshit sentence to yourself over and over, slowly, and annunciate. You'll feel stupid but it helps immensely and once you're back to talking normally it feels great. I'm currently in a cycle of stuttering a lot and I need to go back to slowing down/etc doing the stuff I always do. From what I understand it literally fixes the speech part of your brain that's not at 100%.

Take it from someone who has always struggled with stuttering or fumbling, it isn't too hard to fix. It's annoying but not difficult.

>well-paying skills
Are you in college or anything? Did you major in English or something? You can still find something with that.

>faking a laugh to pity me
Yeah there's no way to tell, depends on the person, what you said, the kind of humor you have...I say some of the spergiest shit ever at school and one friend will think what I said was autistic idiocy and the other will think it's hilarious. It's just senses of humor. "How" you say it also counts, if you come off like you don't care what people will make of what you say, it can directly affect how they react.

Destiny. Nothing helps me like grinding.

I saw on the news a couple years ago, some Indian girl killed herself just after exams. She locked herself in the car, with the engine going; carbon monoxide poisoning. Do you really drift off like that? I imagine it can be pretty painful.

I prefer to read hindu texts, myself

its not stuttering so much as it's just saying the wrong words or forgetting the words im trying to say. dyslexia i think its called. college is too expensive and the only thing i really want to do is animate cartoons. problem is that the good ol' usa outsources all animation for its "american" cartoons so there's very little if any work for it here.

Town of Salem

all my friends are uncomfortable around me because i've always joked about killing myself, and now they worry that they're not jokes.

I see. Can you see someone about that?

Yeah, that sucks. Maybe if you distinguish yourself somehow? I guess they're not super stringent on quality though...

Shit, I don't know man. Maybe you can make shitty youtube videos.

Persona 3 Fes

they're not really your friends if they're worried

No one lets you joke about something that bothers them.

Listen to music.
Talk to the buds about random shit.
ASMR.
Take meds and go to sleep.

A smile and a 'thank you' go a long way, for you, for others.
I help them where I could not help myself.

I have chronic depression, so the same as always.

A mix of benzos and alcohol.

Nothing.

yeah, you just get real sleepy with carbon monoxide poisoning.

That sucks. That must be a really good way to go then, and I don't have a fucking car.

well, I mean, they all ask me not to make the jokes because it makes them worry.

Well shit, maybe it is with you then? If it's not just your family, it could be your fault these things keep happening.

Try the medication, or at least try some therapy, and see if that helps. I assumed it was just your family with the move out advice.

I listen to the Phantasy Star Online OST.

No one does that to me. Every time I go to work and I tell someone I can't do it anymore we have a laugh about the price of funeral expenses or how easy it is to go on with life if I just buck up and become the piece of shit I truly am.

I don't hold anything against people who think its bad to joke about stuff like that, I just hate double standards.

The lie in bed and contemplate suicide game or I just cuddle with my daki

Suicide.

This is the worst advice ever

>come home after work
>down a bunch of vodka
>turn off the lights
>listen to Beach House until asleep

bideogames.

Playing memelee with friends has helped at times.

People near me are actually dying a lot. I read in the Daily News people who are prescribed steroids and other painkillers are dying by the dozens statistically in Long Island. It's crazy when you really think about how many Caucasian households lose elderly or even middle aged people due to drug abuse, or just misdiagnosed prescriptions.

It's not true, you get a headache, labored breathing, a bunch of stuff. You can definitely feel it happening.

Plus, most cars these days have a thing in them (catalytic converter I think) that means you can't do that anymore, there's not enough carbon monoxide in the fumes.

>they're not really your friends if they're worried

What?

Yeah, because an overdose is a great way to have some fun. Even if he doesn't, benzo's plus alcohol just makes you extremely tired and pass out easily, because it just makes the benzos stronger.

How old are you and why are you constantly on here?

A lot of people who die to stuff like that die because they're retards and take way over the recommended dosage, or drink when they take it.

I don't really see how steroids are going to kill you though, short term at least.

That sucks then. If there would be a good way to go by vehicle, I suppose the best way would be incineration.

In the article , it described that people were actually taking the prescribed medication as diagnosed, but the rate of death was going up instead of down. So now, I don't mean to argue all medication is bad, and advocate some homeopathic means, but I have to be aware, you know.

>That sucks then. If there would be a good way to go by vehicle, I suppose the best way would be incineration.

Or get hit by a train or some shit. In all honesty, if you're making excuses for why you only want to kill yourself in a completely painless way, you probably don't want to die that much though. It's not like you're someone with a terminal illness who's going to die anyway and wants to go out with dignity.

>So now, I don't mean to argue all medication is bad, and advocate some homeopathic means, but I have to be aware, you know.

There is definitely some benefit to homeopathic options in some cases, but you're not going to die on risperidone, at worst you'll get a bit twitchy or something.

Not everyone who is suicidal has a superiority complex man. The stereotype of some angsty teenager who thinks he's better than everyone and wants to die because he's an edgelord is really popular for a reason. Because he's still alive.

Okay? I'm just saying, generally people will with stand a bit of pain to kill themselves if they have to. Obviously pain free is the best option, but people do all sorts of shit to die, because generally escaping the pain is the big goal, and a bit more isn't that huge of a deal.

>The stereotype of some angsty teenager who thinks he's better than everyone and wants to die because he's an edgelord is really popular for a reason. Because he's still alive.

Yeah, I agree, kids like that are fucking annoying. /r9k/ is absolutely packed with them, people who identify themselves by being unhappy or suicidal are nearly inevitably those sort of people I've found.

Gta 4 - free mode
Mw3 - infected

Oh no, I understand where you're coming from, I'm saying people don't normally advocate suicide in bad blood. People who are suicidal tend to joke about it less than those who actually aren't. At least from what I understand about personalities.

>tfw IBS and chronic depression

Any antidepressant I try fucks me up.

At this point all I can do is sit at home and play shit with friends when they're not busy living their lives like I thought I was gonna do.

When they're gone I just listen to music because I have this thing where I always think I'm too tired to play video games.

I wish this was just some really shitty dream and that I'm gonna wake up soon.

Oh, I get you now, I completely misunderstood what you were saying there.

But yeah, I agree completely. Most people who are joking about suicide constantly aren't really suicidal, they're just doing that "Lol I'm chronically depressed and want to die" shit that edgy kids do. Some aren't that way, but very few.

>IBS

I know that feel

it really sucks

The worst part is going from doctor to doctor and finding no solution. They just tell me the pain is all in my head and that I need to get on antidepressants.
I just find it so hard to believe that my digestive system decided to stop fucking working out of nowhere one day when I was actually feeling happy for once in my life.

Yeah it happens too often.

There are lots of people who kill themselves and aren't angsty emotional messes. So in order to prevent that, it helps to be able to talk about it and joke about it. Some of the most boring, happy and completely well off people wind up dead and no one ever really knows why.

...

I listen to whatever moody sad song I can find and wallow, what else is there to do really..

I don't play anything. When I get depressed I realize that life is pointless, that we are all slowly but surely marching to our inevitable death and any fun in life is fleeting. We live for meaningless hobbies and spend hundreds of hours on them. When I get to that point I watch three stooges episodes. Nothing says humor like getting a lead pipe to the face.

Isn't there some rhetoric that talks about the harmlessness of suicide and the argument that people who are prolife are much more damaging to a community?

I feel like there is, I'll search for it in a minute.

I honestly think that constant joking and having to tell everyone that you're so depressed when you're not really takes away from people who do have issues.

When you have people being so over the top with it, it means people stop looking for the more subtle signs that show someone's struggling with stuff, and don't take them as seriously as they probably should.

Yeah but if we argued over the regression of personality, we'd never see eye to eye. the 1950's detective should joke about suicide occasionally. It's not his fault he works in a profession where people die and he has to encounter dead bodies, so the least he can do is understand his situation and make light of it a little.

In 2016, we are surrounded by more messages of animosity and benevolence everyday. The whole world we live in is so polarizing, doesn't help that saying one thing or the other gives your entire moral stand point away either, as if it is a video game like KotoR or Jade Empire. It helps to be able to remove that duality and argue from an individualists or existentialists point of view, where we can bring meaning back to its inherent value, instead of supposing everything means something.

Rocksmith

>depressed
>still being able to play vidya

I literally just sleep and mindlessly browse the internet if I'm not tired enough to sleep while I sit there and brood over how everything I do is useless.

came here to post this desu

Something mindless. My go to used to be that MX vs ATV that's on the Wii cause I liked the ski jump course, but I got whatever one is on Steam when I got tired of changing batteries. Something about mindlessly playing a game like that in a snowy course is soothing, I'm not sure what it is.

Depression is tricky, it doesn't necessarily mean you're sad, you know. Just unfeeling and pained.

Of course, dark humor is fine, and the occasional joke is as well, but when you're joking about it constantly, and "Lol so depressed" is your major identity, that's when I think it becomes an issue.

You can still do it if you choose, but it's kind of tasteless and takes away from people who do struggle with that stuff. Even more if you're using it as an excuse or doing it for attention. People think that's how those issues are, because you're shoving it in their faces, and they miss the more subtle signs that someone really does have issues.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying in the second part, or how it's relevant to the topic at hand.

Yeah you're just not seeing it.

"People have funded their entire careers on being able to joke about suicide, but the occasional joke is preferable. Don't be so morbid, but do whatever it takes to make yourself happy. Give life a chance, but don't be a cunt all your life." Your whole stigma is so glaring in the posts I have a hard time believing you don't see it yourself.

>tfw woke up and thread is still alive

I play drink until I can no longer feel the pain. But that is getting expensive.

Something that allows me to just mindlessly grind. It's nice to be able to focus on some arbitrary goal I can realistically achieve, even as the rest of my life goes to shit. Gives me the illusion of being productive even though I achieve nothing valuable.

I read a poem about something like that. There's even this Korean manga that talks about the vulnerability of value in humans, even the most meaningless events can have some sort of impact on our lives.

The poem was much darker and cynical.

I just see it as a simple psychological thing. RPGs play into the human need to see the world change as a result of your effort. And when I'm feeling down, it's always related to that feeling of not being able to make anything better no matter how much effort I put in.

It gets better anons. See a therapist, maybe do some light exercise and don't let your depression keep you from playing games. I'm getting better and better every day.

youtube.com/watch?v=OvNmxkxkUI8

Being able to interpret and enjoy artistic mediums helps in the psychological repair of depressed people. It's the story where a really exceptional almost savant like artist with nothing going on in his life gets brought down by people who want nothing more than for him to be happy, on their own terms, of course. That story breaks my heart.

The world of the living can no longer comfort me

Try DXM. Will get you dissociated pretty hard, you're probably a burgerclapper so you can get robotussin

The nothingness of death will bring you no more comfort, I assure you.

Carbon monoxide attaches to hemoglobin in your blood stronger than oxygen does. This means the receptors on your brain stem don't understand that your hemoglobin isn't carrying oxygen to tissues and into cells, which makes you eventually just pass out calmly and die. Tape windows and airholes shut, draw a vacuum pipe from your exhaust through a window crack back inside the car, turn it on, sit and wait. Good luck, I hope you find a better place somewhere else.

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

All I'm saying is to not joke about suicide all the time, because it takes away from people who do suffer from those issues. It's fine to make a joke about suicide now or then, but that it becomes kind of tasteless when you do it all the time, the same as it would with any illness. It's fine to make jokes about cancer for example, but if you constantly do it, and say how you have cancer even as a joke, you're kind of a dick.

When faced with the ultimate irony of a suicidal premonition, or the finality of absolution, user chooses neither; and beguiles his enemy with his long and everlasting wit. Even in defeat his cradle rocks back and forth!

That was really mean. What I meant to say was yes, a death by monoxide poisoning would be preferable. Pro-life arguing is really mean.

you're right no doubt about it but at least I won't have to struggle

Hey Cred Forums I think I've been depressed for as long as I can remember. my life is gonna end by me killing myself. I Dont see myself getting any better since feeling this way is all I can remember. All I ever wanted was a nice bf to play comfy vidya.
>inb4 kys faggot
Don't worry user, I'm trying

for what it's worth I enjoyed my time on Cred Forums people told me to avoid it but I don't mind all of you indecisive hot heads. It's been fun

Yeah but if you don't take away from people who actually suffer from suicide then how is the suicidal person actually supposed to come out and make it known that he has a problem...? Am I overlooking something in behavior or do suicidal people just wake up one day and say they have a problem?

There won't be any struggle, but there won't be any joy either. Even non-depressed people have struggles in life.

Well, a lot don't, but there are heaps of signs that someone's struggling with those sorts of issues, they're just more subtle than "LOL I HATE MYSELF AND I WANT TO DIE", and when people are acting like that constantly, but people aren't sure if it's serious or not, it detracts from the others issues by making them harder to notice.

Well, if you kill yourself your chances of finding a bf to play comfy vidya with is 0%. If you continue living, it's definitely higher than 0%. How mucher higher I can't say, but definitely higher. So just from a statistical standpoint killing yourself is a dumb idea.

>dumb white middle class retard making dumb shit up so he can fuck off

sounds good to me man

...

Yeah well I'd rather take away from a suicidal person than wait for them to kill themselves and then make fun of them.

There's no reason people should be desensitized to the wants and needs of small children and suddenly super sensitize to suicidal people. It's disproportionate. I know it's a small red herring but altogether we teach, in this community, it's okay for a child to get smacked if he cries over spilled milk, and not okay to laugh at someone who maybe wants to jump off a bridge.

>There's no reason people should be desensitized to the wants and needs of small children and suddenly super sensitize to suicidal people

I think that's kind of a false dichotomy. You can show sensitivity in both situations.

And the plausibility of showing any in either is disproportionate anyway.

that's literally my job right now

>all these "don't do it, it gets better user :))" faggots
Why give wannabe suiciders precisely what they want, attention and compassion they do not deserve? Weak faggots who can't deal with the fact that life isn't always fun are nothing but a BURDEN to you. You should actively seek to give them clear instructions

this is not an okay post judging by most posts on Cred Forums

>Yeah well I'd rather take away from a suicidal person than wait for them to kill themselves and then make fun of them.

Or you could just do neither? And if taking away from them contributes to them actually doing it, I'd say it's much worse than making fun of a dead person. Both are shit, and you shouldn't do either though.

>There's no reason people should be desensitized to the wants and needs of small children and suddenly super sensitize to suicidal people

Or you could just be sensitive to both? Why do you think that people don't care about the needs of children?

Punishing a child isn't anything like mocking a suicidal person, and I don't see why you'd think it is at all.

Well edged my friend, well edged.

If you have any decency in the matter you would actually subscribe to something that wasn't so paradoxical as, "if I'll ignore it it'll go away".

The person is a suicidal being, his ability to be with us is dependent on a series of environmental factors, and your contribution to the situation is to validate his problem by leaving him alone in any way shape or form so as to not incriminate yourself.

>If you have any decency in the matter you would actually subscribe to something that wasn't so paradoxical as, "if I'll ignore it it'll go away".

But I'm not saying that at all? Where are you getting this from?

>The person is a suicidal being, his ability to be with us is dependent on a series of environmental factors, and your contribution to the situation is to validate his problem by leaving him alone in any way shape or form so as to not incriminate yourself.

Seriously, where did I say this? I said that people should stop making jokes about how suicidal and depressed they are, because it makes it much more difficult to notice if someone's struggling and to attempt to help them.

Are you high?

Actualy edginess is thinking you have problems worth announcing to anybody but yourself. There is nothing wrong with your life, besides the fact that you are an ungrateful shit. You are depressed because you haven't had a single challenge in your life, yet you have earned everything that makes life comfortable. Enjoying the existential crisis it left you with?
Even edgier is believing the world now has a responsibility to comfort you for not feeling fulfillment in sitting in front of your computer all day. Look at yourself through the mirror and pull the trigger, if you're under 40 and feel as if you have no drive, you will not amount to anything.
Your life is going to be one disappointment after another, and nobody has TIME to listen to your "issues".

Your entire stance is completely innocuous. You're neutral in the entire design:

>Or you could just do neither? And if taking away from them contributes to them actually doing it, I'd say it's much worse than making fun of a dead person. Both are shit, and you shouldn't do either though.

What is that? Are you being facetious? Is that some sort of argumentative preemptive, by choosing not to do anything you somehow win the argument?

I became an alcoholic at 21 and two years later my life is still fucking awesome

>i just turned 18 and i know it all!

When I'm depressed I just come here and shitpost on Cred Forums and don't play any video games at all.

same. only that Cred Forums is shit and i rather go to /lgbt/ and Cred Forums. they're shit too though.

The only one with the fractured ass I'm seeing is you, my friend, as evidenced by that extremely edgy rant you just typed out. If it really bothers you that much, you're more than welcome to go to a different thread.

>What is that? Are you being facetious? Is that some sort of argumentative preemptive, by choosing not to do anything you somehow win the argument?

Seriously, what are you talking about? How is me saying you don't have to be a shit person in either situation confusing or contradictory at all? You can just not make fun of suicidal or people who died as a result of suicide, that's not hard at all.

Seriously, are you high? Because you're just making no sense, you're all over the place.

Fatal Frame/Project Zero 2
Silent Hill 2
Persona 3/4
SMT III/Nocturne/Lucifer's Call

If you seriously don't know what I'm talking about how are you finding it possible to clue me in on any inconsistencies I may have?

Because you're just making up shit and saying I said it, and it makes no sense to say that "Don't do either" is somehow a contradiction. You don't have to be a dick in either situation.

Yeah, that's how you solve problems in real life. Beg the bully to leave.
Bye cuckold.

Yeah and then there would be a problem with me insulting you too, now I take it?

because you don't argue properly and you appeal to a whole bunch of argumentative fallcies in your posts and when faced with the argumentative fallacies you want me to point out each one perfectly, and pristinely, so you can vocally herald the idea in question instead of trying to actually grasp it.

I mean, it would be kind of pointless, but hopefully it would make more sense than the rest of the stuff you've been saying.

i think you argue like a person who doesn't want to be right and depends on the opinions and popularity of others in order to maintain validity, while maintaining that you yourself, don't want to be very correct at all, and that your opposition is just spouting nonsense.

I am so tempted to jump right back into that massive timesink

But I didn't do that at all, literally all I was saying is that when you joke about suicide and how depressed you are all the time, people don't notice those who are struggling with suicidal thoughts or depression, because the signs are much more subtle for those than constantly talking about suicide. Then you started talking about how people punish children so therefore joking about suicide is okay, and how you have to pick between making fun of a person with suicidal thoughts and making fun of a person who died from suicide.

I'm not insulting you or being fallacious, but you're legitimately making no sense, you're just sort of jumping from one point to another, not even points that have been previously raised, there's just no train of thought to follow. I don't know, maybe it's just me, if someone else could let me know if he's making any sense, that would be great though.

Again you're telling me that you're not the expert on the topic, but there are better ways to be, while maintaining that I am somehow wrong, because you have this stance.

To be honest, I'm finding your train of thought difficult to follow as well.

Why would that matter if you're arguing the plight of suicide and the nature of how to help suicidal people?

Ok. Whatever. Suicidal people kill yourselves. Everyone else, talk about video games.

I'm not saying it "matters" or not, I'm just saying that I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around your argument. I'm not making a value judgement of your argument, not sure where you're getting that from.

My stance is that people who are suicidal are going to have a hard time letting you know that they have a problem. Whether or not people make fun of them isn't something we can control, and regardless of that fact, it's a bit healthier to have them exposed to ridicule than to leave them on their own to suffer a problem that may not actually even exist

But I'm not, I'm just saying that your train of thought in particular makes no sense, and it's really hard to follow what you're saying as a result.

I don't even know what your argument actually is, just that it makes no sense, it doesn't logically follow.

But then why does that matter if you're talking about other people and how to safeguard them

I really like this idea

>My stance is that people who are suicidal are going to have a hard time letting you know that they have a problem.

This happens sometimes, yes.

> Whether or not people make fun of them isn't something we can control,

No, but you can control whether or not you choose to do those things, which is what matters.

>it's a bit healthier to have them exposed to ridicule

Based on what?

>than to leave them on their own to suffer a problem that may not actually even exist

If they're suicidal, they're almost definitely depressed, which is absolutely a real problem that exists.

Listen some NSBM and prepare for race war

Because I don't know how to address your points if I don't even understand them, and when you start making up stuff, it becomes really hard to get what you're saying.

But this makes more sense. It also ignores what I'm saying.

I'm saying that by turning suicidal thoughts into a joke, you make it much harder for people who do have those issues to let you know they're struggling, as well as making it hard to notice the signs someone's struggling with a mood disorder.

>Whether or not people make fun of them isn't something we can control,

But we can. Not only can we control what we ourselves do, but we can express distaste when they make fun of them, to show that it's not okay to do.
>it's a bit healthier to have them exposed to ridicule than to leave them on their own to suffer a problem that may not actually even exist

That goes against everything we know of how to help a suicidal person. You don't fucking mock them, because that just means they'll close up, and feel even worse than they did before.

There is no reason for why turning this illness into a joke is okay compared to others, like cancer or something more tangible than it. You don't make jokes about how you have cancer, and it's shitty to do the same for depression, especially if it's constant.

russian roulette, with myself

that fucking 0

Yeah and you can also stop playing red herring. You saying there are starving children in africa doesn't take away from the fact that people with suicidal problems will have ridicule thrust upon them.Making the argument that choice is apparent and optional is only making your appeal petitio principi more apparent. Your argument is riddled with holes and you're asking me to buff out the alleged holes in mine, while ignoring and significant points I'm making.

JUST BEE URSELF

Monster Hunter Online, i don't understand shit but looking at the environment relaxes me...
If i have no Internet then any kirby game will do

Just looking at the trailer makes me laugh

I take tons of codein a play rocket league while listening to some music . Strange game to while depressed but idk i like it

Now that URF is on league i put my headphones with super mario world's athletic theme extended and i laugh like a retard the whole match

I write.

Bad boy from down town
Video games makes me frown
Tough guys make fun of me
Bullies are my enemy
I shitpost on the board called Cred Forums
Spouting shit to everyone I see
Secretly gay and a pedo
Stick my dick in grandma's jello

I had meeting with health councellor, told her that I've been really tired and have no motivation to do things I want to do, something that has been going for years. She just told me to take some internet test to see if I'm depressed. And oh boy are those things most useless things that I have seen.

Just few questions like
>Are you sadder than usual
>Are you crying more than usually
>Do you feel like you have no goals

I mean what the fuck, am I sad? no I'm mostly angry at myself for not being able to push myself forward.
Do I cry more? why would I be crying, I watch sad movie and I might tear up, but I've always been like that.
No goals? I have plenty of goals, but I have no motivation at all to keep working towards them. I start and quit and cycle repeats.

I'm so tired of everything. How do I stop being depressed? And I don't want to kill myself.

i almost flung myself into oncoming traffic wednesday

Seeing a therapist would be a good start.

nah, read this

Jesus christ that's sounds like a terrible councilor.
What's the fucking point of even telling them if they're just going to direct you to a shitty internet quiz?
This is probably one of the reasons why people have a hard time opening up, because idiots like your councilor don't understand how to deal with stuff like this.

You are autistic, you fuck. You better take those meds.

that's your way of defaulting and i don't care.

a fail for user

He's autistic.

That's just gonna get you more depressed, though.

I don't have any money, user. And I don't want people to know that I'm (most likely) depressed, 'cause I'm just that insecure.

where do you get off saying that

do you have credentials for your diagnosis or are you just so apathetic that you don't care who you call what

Alcohol.

Well in that case I'd recommend reading Feeling Good by Dr. David Burns, it outlines a lot of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy techniques that you can use to fight your depression. You can buy it for really cheap on amazon and other sites. It helped me a lot, I'd imagine it'd do the same for you.

Thanks, user. I'll probably buy that and Meditations.

The latter, you autist.

thanks buttercup.

that's all i ever wanted.

I like making people laugh

even though deep down I know it's one of the few things I'm good at, seeing other people's smiles make me feel a little better inside, but once the laughter stops it comes back like a crashing wave. I've come to grips that everything is only temporary, only death is permanent. If I don't talk to anyone irl I usually play lighthearted games that don't require too much thought or ability.

Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about? Who mentioned starving Africans? There is no petitio principi going on here, you can't just name a fallacy, you have to explain how it's there. Naming random fallacies is in itself a fallacy.

Why did you ignore too, you autist.

Depends on the test. There's a really comprehensive on by the black dog institute that takes like 2 hours to do, and you have to get referred by a medical professional in order to be able to even get into it, and the results are then sent off to them to be analysed. If it's just a random one though, then yeah, it's shitty.

It really does seem like it.

The Book of Enoch is extrabilblical user

You're begging the question, and you won't admit that you're arguing from the conclusion first

Cry myself to sleep

To everyone in this thread: You aren't depressed you're just bored and you mistake this for something clinical because you believe that life is supposed to be constantly engaging and fun.

"I'm so depressed hurrr" Is the worst special snowflake meme of forever.

Who the fucks suffer from a mental illness that got an impact on their body here ?

Apparently i suffer from a mental disease that causes me to be dizzy. This is fucking hell.

But I'm not, and you have to explain how I am for your naming of fallacies to be anything more than just a fallacy in itself.

How am I begging the question? Please explain this with quotes, because I'm not seeing it at all.

You really should stop posting until you get a better grasp of how to debate in English.

People are using the word "depressed" for anything whatsoever, this isn't new.

You just described being depressed, dipshit. Depressed doesn't mean sad, it means a flat affect.

I believe you. What do you do to avoid boredom/falling into a rut?

>but i'm not

see there's you're problem. you're assuming that you're not doing something already, which is arguing from the end, rather than the beginning. which is called begging the question

>It's 100% what you are doing
bullshit, what about shit like injuries and sickness you have no control over?

war thunder to make me feel even worse or fallout to make me feel better

>Yeah dude I'm suicidal because my life is kind of flat and boring lmao

user I....

>when
it doesn't fucking come and go
being depressed is a constant ennui
i haven't enjoyed anything for about 3 years now

Balance is really key. From what I understand a lot of people here become disinterested in their daily routines because they commit too much time to single pursuits like games.

I'm not meaning to suggest that everyone would be happier if they just went to the club and just be'd themselves, or anything like that, but a lot of people NEET it up for years on end and end up with monotonous lives where their hobbies are reduced from pursuits of passion to simple chores they fall into out of habit.

I go out for walks in the morning, work out with a fair bit of frequency, and try and squeeze in some time for socialization in between periods of sitting in front of the computer.

It can be really refreshing to just do something different, even if the task itself is totally mundane. Even walking around Walmart doing grocery shopping makes me feel engaged.

You would look much less stupid if you bothered to do any research at all. Motherfucker you're already in chrome, open a tab and look at wikipedia you stupid fucking child.

Major Clinical Depression is not sadness like you'd feel after a death in the family. It's a flattening of all emotion good and bad as well as a lack of energy and disrupted sleep patterns.

Not being able to feel joy is far far worse than feeling sadness.

When i get depressed i just get awesome instead!!!! :D

Holy shit, you have to be trolling. Either way, you're a fucking retard.

That's not true at all. MDD is a disorder with a very specific set of criteria, you can't just go "Yeah I feel kind of bored because I have a boring life so therefore I have a serious mental illness".

Everyone needs to claim they're severely depressed, when most of them are just mildly sad about external stuff in their life, which is a normal reaction to your circumstances, and therefore not a mental illness.

Read the rest of his post. No matter where you are in life, your direction is your choice.

Even an athlete who becomes a paraplegic can still work towards becoming either a paralympian, or working at a different sport. Hell, even a quadriplegic, alongside obviously all the rehab for it could still coach.

Unless you're in a coma, the direction of your life is entirely your choice.

This is false. To have a depressive episode, clinically you only need to have had the symptoms for two weeks, and it always comes and goes to some degree.

People who claim to have been in the exact same mood for years are just flat out lying to you, because that's simply not how moods, or mental illnesses even work. Schizophrenics have good days, and most of the time they aren't psychotic. Bipolar people are calm most of the time, not constantly up or down, you name it, it fluctuates.

The reason Cred Forums handles this situation so well is because we're ALL depressed and its a diagnosis easily communicated between people over the internet.

Do meds work? How do I get them? I don't want to do therapy because I'm extremely uncomfortable around people. Xanex or something sounds nice. Work is getting more and more difficult just because I can't handle being around people, even people I've known my whole life. I only feel comfortable when alone. Yet I am lonely.

>That's not true at all. MDD is a disorder with a very specific set of criteria, you can't just go "Yeah I feel kind of bored"...
Good thing I didn't say that, twat.

I have extended depressive episodes, my sister is full-blown bipolar, and we're both at risk for schizophrenia.

>durr you're just sad
Depression isn't even related to sadness you cunt

Meds for depression are shit. Poor response rates, long acclimation, and horrible side effects. The best treatment is exercise, sunlight, and cognitive therapy.

Fuck SSRI's, they won't help they just take your money and give you ED

Video Games
>But user. You play video games everyday
>...

Ah if only it were so simple, little one.

>what do you play when a depressive episode hits
Moeshit.

JRPGs are preferred but shit like Senran Kagura or Gal Gun will do in a pinch.

It doesn't really help, but it keeps me occupied

>Good thing I didn't say that, twat.

But you did. He said you're not depressed you're just bored, and you said that's what depression is.

>I have extended depressive episodes, my sister is full-blown bipolar, and we're both at risk for schizophrenia.

Okay? I have MDD with psychotic features (sometimes diagnosed as schizophrenia, butmostly the first one), it doesn't actually impact what I'm saying at all though.

>Depression isn't even related to sadness you cunt

But it does
>images.pearsonclinical.com/images/assets/basc-3/basc3resources/DSM5_DiagnosticCriteria_MajorDepressiveDisorder.pdf
>Depressed mood most of the day, nearly every day, as indicated by either subjective report (e.g., feels
sad, empty, hopeless) or observation made by others (e.g., appears tearful).

Doesn't say anything about being bored, does it? But the word sad is definitely in there.

>horrible side effects.

The rest is pretty true (apart from long acclimation, it's pretty short), but the side effects are incredibly mild for SSRI's. Most people just get a bit of nausea for a couple weeks and then are fine, and the worst that's at all common (as in like 5% or less) is sexual dysfunction that goes away when you stop.

>Why are you so depressed all the time? Why don't you just be happy?

Because society is morally corrupt at a fundamental level and no one seems to want to acknowledge it even though it is completely obvious. It's really hard to make friends when all everyone ever wants to talk about is the latest video game or movie.

This. I've lost like all my friends. Was rejected when I asked a girl to be my girlfriend. Had to move home. And even the friends I didn't lost are normies that drink and smoke, go to parties whatever and in the end I feel nothing, I want to feel sad but I can't, just sometimes I'm crying when I'm in bed because I can't sleep and think about things that went wrong in my life.

I'm trying to be motivated and that actually works pretty often but it feels faked. I'm nowhere near to kill myself but I'm also not motivated to live anymore, I've ADHD and I can't even pay attention to school lessons anymore, can't do homework, I can't play games constantly anymore, I don't feel joy while playing them and I mostly just listen to music all day.

We can tell.

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It's pretty special that you have depression but don't understand what it is. You should probably kill yourself.

Kek, what a great argument. I source the DSM V as an argument for why you're wrong, and you go "Yeah well I have depression and you should kill yourself because you don't know", as if I give a shit about your (probably self diagnosed based on how you're arguing, and you don't claim to have MDD) diseases, or your family.

Sounds like you not only don't have mdd, you wouldn't be able to recognize it.

user is right that it's a flattened affect and not intense sadness.

If you feel intense sadness that's not depression, that is some other mood disorder.

>user is right that it's a flattened affect and not intense sadness.

>I know more than the DSM V!

Flattened affect is a major feature in schizophrenia, not in depression.You see how it isn't mentioned anywhere in the source I provided, but the words "Sad" and "tearful" are?

If you're flat every single day, you're either just bored, or you should sleep more, because depression is marked by feelings of intense dysphoria and guilt, as well as lack of interest in stuff (Which can present as anhedonia in its most severe form), and a few other symptoms including psychomotor retardation, diminished ability to think or concentrate and sleep disturbance.

Doesn't seem to say anything about the edgy teen stereotype of not feeling anything ever.

And I don't really care what you think I'm diagnosed with honestly.

>depression with psychotic
It's not depression, it says right there in your own link that psychotic features better explaining episides precludes the diagnosis
>the word sad appears!
You're fucking stupid.
>You said...
That depression is flattened affect, more readily described as a loss of emotion rather than intense negative emotion. See "lack of interest."

It's rather ironic that yiu're trying to tell people what they do or don't have

>flat affect isn't depression
>if you have flat affect sleep more
Holy shit, you just slammed your foot on the gas and careened off the stupid cliff

>It's not depression, it says right there in your own link that psychotic features better explaining episides precludes the diagnosis

Are you retarded?
>Specify:With mood-congruent psychotic features

It says another psychotic disorder, which I don't have. Learn to read, moron.

>You're fucking stupid.

Kek, still no argument, right?

>That depression is flattened affect, more readily described as a loss of emotion rather than intense negative emotion

But it doesn't say that at all, read here All the symptoms talk about feeling intensely bad, feelings of guilt, appearing tearful, sad, hopeless, irritable mood, recurrent thoughts of death. None of them talk about feeling nothing at all.

And yes, lack of interest in the activities of a day is a symptom, but it's clearly a result of the intensely negative emotions, not that you just can't feel anything at all.

>It's rather ironic that yiu're trying to tell people what they do or don't have

Says the person who claims to know more than the DSM about the diagnosis.

>flat affect isn't depression

It's objectively not, a depressed affect is. A flat affect is much more symptomatic of psychotic disorders.

Also
>I'm just going to ignore all your points to focus on two sentences, one of which was clearly not serious

Nice one, retard.

When I get depressed in the winter months I tend to play a lot of RPGs that I can lose myself in

>When you're depressed
I don't get depressed, grow some balls fag

Ok, I've let you twist in the wind enough. Here you go, dipshit:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduced_affect_display
psychcentral.com/encyclopedia/flat-affect/
goodtherapy.org/blog/is-it-depression-if-i-dont-feel-sad-0429144
psychologytoday.com/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201510/the-important-difference-between-sadness-and-depression
healthtalk.org/young-peoples-experiences/depression-and-low-mood/what-does-depression-feel-emotional-cognitive-experiences

Oh, and telling someone with flattened affect to get more sleep regardless of their actual diagnosis is full blown fucking retarded. Oversleeping is part of the problem.

The DSM is garbage btw

Lets look at some other sources though, shall we?

>beyondblue.org.au/the-facts/depression/signs-and-symptoms
>You may be depressed if, for more than two weeks, you've felt sad, down or miserable most of the time

Feelings:
>overwhelmed
>guilty
>irritable
>frustrated
>lacking in confidence
>unhappy
>miserable
>sad

Huh, no mention of feeling nothing again?

Lets just try wikipedia
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_depressive_disorder#Signs_and_symptoms
>A person having a major depressive episode usually exhibits a very low mood, which pervades all aspects of life, and an inability to experience pleasure in activities that were formerly enjoyed. Depressed people may be preoccupied with, or ruminate over, thoughts and feelings of worthlessness, inappropriate guilt or regret, helplessness, hopelessness, and self-hatred

Still nothing about feeling empty. Huh.

Reduced affect is not a flat affect. They are clinically different terms.

>psychologytoday.com/blog/the-squeaky-wheel/201510/the-important-difference-between-sadness-and-depression

Did you even read this?
>Depression is an abnormal emotional state, a mental illness that affects our thinking, emotions, perceptions, and behaviors in pervasive and chronic ways. When we’re depressed we feel sad about everything

>goodtherapy.org/blog/is-it-depression-if-i-dont-feel-sad-0429144
>One scenario that causes people to feel depressed without feeling sad is when depression causes them to feel primarily numb. They don’t feel sad, angry, joyful, or really anything at all. They may feel an amorphous misery, but no specific emotion.
>amorphous misery

That's not feeling empty.

>The DSM is garbage btw

The DSM is what defines what a disorder is you fucking retard, you can't just discount it, otherwise I can just make up whatever I like for symptoms. Half the sources you provided directly spoke about the DSM symptoms too.

you might want to try reading more than just the first paragraph of each source

>muh DSM
Even the people who use the DSM professionally admit it's total garbage.

>amorphous misery but no specific emotion
>apparently this does not describe a flattened affect
Oops, you're retarded.

This thread sucks but goddamn do you suck harder.

I can't play single player games when I'm depressed, at least not a great majority of them. Most of them usually have frivolous objectives to do that never get me truly engaged, and thus keep reminding me of how I'm feeling. Multiplayer games get past that by simply giving me a new game every match, and also make me feel accompanied because I'm doing something with people. The only single player game I can think of right now that doesn't make me feel worse is STALKER, since it's easy to get lost in its world.

At this point, though, I really think I'm gonna need SSRIs, because life is giving me less and less time to use videogames as my escapism.

Oh, and before you point at
>psychcentral.com/encyclopedia/flat-affect/

And go "haha, I caught you now!", not only is that purely talking about the expression on your face, but a flattened affect is still mostly a psychotic feature, and presents in MDD with psychosis. It's not necessarily considered to have anything to do with emotional state, as said here
>This is supported by the ongoing theory that flat affect is the result of a brain abnormality involving motor function rather than emotional processing.

>you might want to try reading more than just the first paragraph of each source

Why don't you just highlight the parts of info you want me to read? I skimmed each source for info, and highlighted the relevant parts. If I missed something, please, point it out.

>Even the people who use the DSM professionally admit it's total garbage.

But they don't. They admit it has issues with some disorders, but they don't just throw it to the wind and go "Yeah it all sucks, lets just disregard it and do whatever" like you're doing. What the DSM says is a symptom, is what the disorder is. If you aren't diagnosed with the DSM or the ICD criteria, you aren't diagnosed.

>I have no idea what a flattened affect even is

It's literally just about the emotion on your face, not how you feel. From the source earlier in my post
>Flat affect is different from apathy (lack of emotion) in that feelings may simply be unexpressed rather than totally lacking. For example, a person with flat affect may feel anxious or surprised, but will not express these emotions through facial expressions, tone of voice or body language

Might want to try finding out what terms even mean before you start going "This describes it".

“You get born and you try this and you don't know why only you keep on trying it and you are born at the same time with a lot of other people, all mixed up with them, like trying to, having to, move your arms and legs with strings only the same strings are hitched to all the other arms and legs and the others all trying and they don't know why either except that the strings are all in one another's way like five or six people all trying to make a rug on the same loom only each one wants to weave his own pattern into the rug; and it can't matter, you know that, or the Ones that set up the loom would have arranged things a little better, and yet it must matter because you keep on trying or having to keep on trying and then all of a sudden it's all over" - t. Faulkner

Even though you're not really in control of your life (we all know that), you need to believe you are, you need to have hope that you can change things. In a way, you need to lie to yourself to make you feel important, even if that's not really true.
Take for instance friends. You might not have those, you feel like they're too shallow and worthless, and you don't feel much with them. But remember you're not special: you're not unique. There are tons of depressed people, everywhere, about 10% of americans, 15% in some countries. Hell ,they're not happy with their life, and you're not happy with your life. You can talk to them, and they'll feel happy about having a friend, having someone they can trust. And it's good to talk about your feelings with someone you can trust, anyone. Kind of a catharsis.
You might not change someone's life. But you can help them in small ways. And that makes you feel better.
It's not much, but I hope this post helps someone.

>may
please look up what that word means.

Depression can present as intense UNFOCUSED (that's the key to distinguishing between it and just sadness) sadness and misery or it can present as a blunting of all emotion. Both happen and are very common. Any amount of reading on the topic bears that out.

This argument is asinine.

>Numbness: One scenario that causes people to feel depressed without feeling sad is when depression causes them to feel primarily numb. They don’t feel sad, angry, joyful, or really anything at all. They may feel an amorphous misery, but no specific emotion. They may go through the motions of living without the feelings that motivate and satisfy people. This numbness can be experienced as suffering, but in such an ill-defined way that it isn’t identified as sadness.

That post is pretty stupid, but it's not completely untrue that your willingness to kill yourself can be channeled into turning your life around. Take the Japanese salaryman who kills himself because he can't handle all the pressure from his boss, his family and society in general telling him to suck it up and keep working like everything's fine. When he kills himself, he's saying fuck you to all of those, which he could have done without killing himself, hopefully finding some kind of happiness after getting rid of all the things that were destroying it.

>please look up what that word means.

It means that they can be surprised or anxious, but that they aren't necessarily surprised or anxious, moron.

>Any amount of reading on the topic bears that out.

Except for all the sources I've provided, right?

Yes, I quoted that one user. Do you see where it says "Amorphous misery"? That means they don't feel a concentrated feeling of sadness, but feel generally negative, they feel unhappy in general. Not that they feel nothing, those are very, very different things.

Now, to clarify, and this is a serious sentence (read, not a joke), because you got kind of confused last time, if you legitimately feel no emotion, ever, this is much more likely to be a physical illness, and you should absolutely contact a doctor. It's the sort of thing people get after brain injuries, when you just lose all ability to feel emotion.

But, if we're being honest, that's not what you're experiencing. You still feel all your normal emotions at points, there's just always (or usually) an undertone of general dysphoria. You may not be as happy as you were, or not laugh as much, but you still get angry, or jealous, or hopeless, or generally miserable. This is not the same as feeling no emotions.

If you legitimately had all your emotions numbed to the point that there wasn't even any sense of misery, you would likely just do the bare minimum to survive, if you could even be compelled to do that.

If you're able to play games, you just have meme depression. Besides a mindless multiplayer game just to pass time perhaps.

(You)

Now, lets also not forget what your original position was, that depression has nothing to do with sadness. On this, you are absolutely, objectively incorrect, which I have demonstrated with three separate sources. One of the main symptoms of depression is a feeling of unfocused or generalised sadness, or unhappiness. It's usually referred to as dysphoria, but encompasses all of those terms.

You've now moved the goalposts to "sometimes people with MDD feel less emotion than they did before", and dropped the "they feel nothing at all" line.

Good job.

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>If you legitimately had all your emotions numbed to the point that there wasn't even any sense of misery, you would likely just do the bare minimum to survive, if you could even be compelled to do that.
Oh hey, another person accidentally described one of the ways depression manifests while trying to say how it DOESN'T.

Funny shit.

Also
>you
you really think it's one person saying you're wrong, don't you?

Darkest Dungeon always cheers me up.

>Oh hey, another person accidentally described one of the ways depression manifests while trying to say how it DOESN'T.

Are you trying to tell me that people with depression are regularly catatonic? Not even just the sort of catatonic where they try to keep a strange position, but the sort of catatonic where they are barely above comatose. They're barely reactive, don't eat, shit and piss themselves instead of going to the toilet, you could punch them and they wouldn't even react. Is that what you're claiming depression is like?

Because if you had no emotions whatsoever, that's the state you'd be left in. You wouldn't feel disgust, you wouldn't feel anger or fear at being struck, you wouldn't feel anything.

>you really think it's one person saying you're wrong, don't you?

No, there's clearly two, I just can't tell which of the two I'm replying to in the moment every single post. Or can't be bothered trying to figure it out when it doesn't matter that much. If I get it wrong, just swap out the word "you" for "he".

Anything to take my mind off things. 6 days a week I take the bus to my methadone clinic, get my methadone and come home and play anything to help me not think about being a junkie. Been playing dark souls II lately since I got so bored of 3 and never played this one. I'm looking for some cool roguelikes/roguelites to play.any recommendations would be cool senpai. Hope everyone finds happiness one day

Used to play DotA 2. It disconnected me from my pain. Now i don't need it anymore.

>Hope everyone finds happiness one day
This reminded me how I can be pretty happy about seeing others be able to make it out of it and find that stable point in life, but despite that, I can't see myself doing the same thing, and think getting past depression myself is a pipe dream.

gommie faggot go back to your feminist classes