There will never be a leap in graphics as impressive as the one between the 5th and 6th console generations

There will never be a leap in graphics as impressive as the one between the 5th and 6th console generations.

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Going from SNES to Mario 64 blew my fucking mind

Why was Mario orange in Melee?

They were probably filming Super Mario Sunshine at the same time they were making SSBM.

This.
SNES to N64 was the big jump from 2D to 3D for most games at the time and that was one of the biggest leaps on it's own.
The last seriously big leap we had was in the 360 / PS3 generation for sure tho. Muh Crysis etc

HAL took a lot of liberties with the models in Melee, for example: Sheik was brown and wore her titty wrappings outside of the skintight suit.

???
That's exactly how Sheik looks

Sheik's sporting some child bearing hips in melee

No, they were pandering to SJW and libcucks, Sheik was always meant to be white.

I know right? When I was a kid I could not believe my eyes when I saw the N64 and PS1 graphics. I thought they could never get any better.

If Star Fox for the SNES didn't exist I would have probably been blown away further, but that game helped bridge the gap.

>Sheik
>the most muslim name out there besides Mohammed
>white
Sheik was always meant to be a proud muslim transman of color

She looks more accurate to the original concept art in Melee than in OoT.

How the hell did Ganondorf not find it strange that there was another brown male running around? They're only supposed to be born every 100 years.

Dunno why so many artists draw her as being pale. It's not like they draw Tetra as being pasty white.

He probably assumed it was just some tanned asshole or a very flat girl. I don't think he thought too much of it.

>Sheik is a Gerudo

>there will never be another Mario game with different, unique aesthetics

>Pandering to SJW
>In 2004

Kid the whole diversity movement in video games started in 2010. What he fuck are you talking about

She's still got it

Sheik is more of a title/position than an actual name.

>her
wtf

And yet the only leaps graphics are doing today are the drops in frame rate and the price difference between cards.

Sheik is Zelda in disguise.

Agreed somewhat. Going from MGS1 on the PS1 to MGS2 on the PS2 blew my mind.

Not as much as when I saw SM64 for the first time though. It was the first 3D game I had ever seen and it's still the most mind blowing video game thing I've ever seen.

Melee was one of the first Gamecube games, since it was the first time that they were truly able to make high poly models they didn't really know what to do in terms of giving the characters more detail. That's why a lot of the characters in Smash feel a bit off, especially ones like Bowser.

Oh. Well fuck I really need to play some Zelda games. Shame on me.

>"she"ik

>Caring about graphical leaps

When I was a kid, all I cared about was gameplay. Graphical jumps meant nothing if the gameplay was shit. That's why I wasn't impressed by the console 3D revolution, especially because I had been seeing 3D games on the PC for years. The graphics on consoles moved to 3D, but the games devolved.

there's no need to lie user

nobody believes you.

True that.
Seeing games finally rival the CG FMVs of the past gen was mind blowing in the early days of 00s. I still find that era´s crisp and clear visuals pleasing to look at; no tons of filters and shaders, just raw polygons and textures, made with love because of that.

This was true as well. I was literally like that N64 kid during the Xmas 1997 myself.

I´d already seen some 3D vidya in form of 2.5D games like Doom, and even some PS1 games (that looked awfully triangular and pixelated event as a kid), but N64 and SM64 really amazed me with its smooth, round and colorful visuals, steady and fast framerate, and my god those analog stick controls!

you should.
OoT and MM are both some true 10/10. No memes or anything.

Why would I lie? I didn't get an N64 or PS1 because the games never impressed me. I stuck to my GBC and PC for the 5th generation of consoles.

I played Super Mario 64 on demo units and instantly knew it wasn't Mario. I played Crash Bandicoot and it was trash. The only genres that ever properly transitioned to 3D are racing and flight games.

I hope I like those as much as LttP!

>OoT and MM are both some true 10/10. No memes or anything.
Actual fucking lies.

The puzzles are mostly shit in OoT, the camera is shit in both.

go back to bed, Egofagtor.

6th will probably always be my favorite generation, aesthetically. Powerful enough to avoid the models looking like blocky messes, but not powerful enough to encourage every developer in existence to create boring "realistic" visuals. We got a lot of great looking games that generation.

If you look at PS2 games and then The Last of Us the leap is huge

What's that?

an elitist ADHD e-celeb who hates the GOTYAY Zeldas because of being so shit at games + "sooo much waiting!"

¨Not really.
TLOU only looks good when it´s forcing you into those snail-pace walking sim sections, where it can suddenly enable single-use-only special effects and boost other visuals a notch.

You've never even played a Smash game?

>When I was a kid, all I cared about was gameplay.
What a load of crap

I'm making fun of the people who give a shit about melanin concentration in games. If OoT was made today their would be so much ZELDA IS A SANDNIGGER, FUCKING PANDERING

I played 64 :/

Not even trolling.

I have no opinion of MM other than people I know who've played it say Z-targeting works the same from OoT, and that it seems like a much more well-crafted game in general. But in OoT, most of the puzzles are actually bad or just fucking dumb., and if you don't think Z-Targeting is a clunky goddam mess you're either blinded by nostalgia or have enough experience with it to discover some insight I missed. Like, combat is OKAY. The story isn't complex, but it is very good and well presented. Time travel is cool and well done. But even if Z-targeting wasn't abysmal and the puzzles weren't asinine and they were both just bad, it would be an 9/10. Honestly I'd put OoT at a 4/5 and MM at maybe the same if it's as good as I think it will be.

Also, I never played or beat either game i nmy childhood and only beat OoT last month because I wanted to know what all the fuss was about. Good game overall, especially for it's time, but undeniably flawed.

*tips fedora*

Going from Star Fox 64 to Adventure is insane

Not only did you get an insane graphics improvement, you also get a higher framerate

>I still find that era´s crisp and clear visuals pleasing to look at
Definitely not the case with the N64 which was blurry as fuck due to that shitty bilinear/anti-alising filter or whatever it was

You've either been out of the Nintendo game for a while or you're just that 1 in a million guy who owned their consoles and somehow never got one of the SSB games after 64. Please be the latter because that would make you more of snowflake anomaly.

Still a him. When Zelda becomes Sheik she becomes a man.

you reminded me that people actually think this.

And a shitty game.

What does that have to do with this thread?

>I´m literally bad at games
>trying to claim otherwise makes u a nostalgia-fag!
Yeah, how about you just off yourself.
I replay OoT almost annually, and it´s still as good as ever. Didn´t have problems with the Z-targeting back when I was 10, dont have problems with it now. Though I did learn to use and love the Z-hold version of the aiming at later age.

I also absolutely love the OoT´s and MM´s atmosphere and the feel of true adventure. They are not puzzle games, never have been, so I do not quite understand your whining. If you ever want to be actually challenged in a Zelda game, then play the goddamn MM.

and a much shittier game as well!

I don't play that much actually, I only own a PC and play some shitty mainstream games like LoL or CSGO. So yeah, I'm out of the Nintendo game like crazy

The Z targeting system is practically perfect. You're just DSP levels of incompetent. Here is an example of how far ahead of its time it was.

FRom here on out, its all about art style. Cannot wait for super mario game with Classical Art aesthetics.

That's a terrible comparison. How is it equivalent when one game is a close-combat adventure game and the other is a third-person shooter?

The jump from 4th-generation (sprites) to 5th-generation (3d) was easily more impressive.

couldn't be more wrong

While not impossible, it sounds like you're either trying to justify something to someone or yourself. Unless you're like 50 or something, then it's possible you outgrew games around that time.

I agree that Z-targetting is not broken or messy.
But that other guy is still right about OoT being bad.
The combat is slow and a major downgrade from the previous game. Going from LttP to OoT is like going from Kirby Superstar to Kirby 64

They're not mechanically bad, but they made the games slow and easier.

So Zelda 64 is MML for casuals?

Its the closest thing to z targeting and I've even seen some people claim z targeting was invented by MML (not true, which is why I made that WebM). Mega Man Legends is also an adventure game.

It's the only good game in the series.

Yes, you are.
TLOU looks like uncanny, blurry ass most of the time.

>But that other guy is still right about OoT being bad.
You´re both wrong as fuck. Played OoT for the first time back in 2010, on a real N64, since I never owned one as a kid, and it was goddamn awesome. The only "Zelda" I´d played before that were Okami and Oracles on GBC.

I never even thought about this, but this webm really shows how bad Zelda handled it.
Mega Man came out first and did it much better

>They are not puzzle games, never have been
Not an excuse. If a feature is in the game, like puzzles, then it should be good. Some were, most were not.

>trying to claim otherwise makes u a nostalgia-fag!

>or have enough experience with it to discover some insight I missed

Nice reading comprehension dood. Using a Z-press to both unlock the camera and switch targets, in exactly the same context, is retarded.

They have great atmosphere and do feel more like an adventure than most games of their sub-genre. But Z-targeting is fucking clumsy and that's about all there is to it. If you need to say, block an attack from another direction, especially if there's more than 2 enemies, it's a total gamble.

Try Kingdom Hearts. It using a system similar to Z-targeting but since the camera is shit and there are many more enemies on screen than OOT, it just doesn't work as well.

DMC also used a similar system.

You like not being able to move while locked on and the game goes into auto aim mode?

I think almost every generation has showed a great leap in visual fidelty, though this faggot is the most correct.

no, TLoU looks great 100% of the time.

I don't watch ego raptor, but I have seen some stuff about him not liking oot. I honestly can't believe anyone doesn't like that game. It's so damn good. I've never met anyone in real life who says it isn't at least a great game. I think a lot of people who are around 18-22 or so really take YouTube seriously and develop opinions based on what these guys say. Like it's some fucking dumpy ass dude who sits around and thinks up ways to pander to children all day so he can avoid work, why would anyone care what he thinks?

5 hours

>biggest advance in graphics
>not 4th gen to 5th gen

what the fuck

>tfw you will never experience as big a generational leap as moving from 2d to 3d

bitch ive been a pcfat all my life and looking back on the games i played in the early 90s to the games i played in the mid 90s just constantly blows my fucking mind

>those NGC-tier trees and grass
yeah, nope.

MML is hold R2 to auto aim, its more casual.

forgot image

what?

there's no need to lie.

Picture unrelated?

the model is low poly, it just has high quality textures on it.

Good rebuttal
>Anyone who disagrees must be young

Ocarina of Time was my first N64 game that I didn't like because it was such a downgrade from the SNES game.
Up to the deku tree, it was exciting and cool, but then the game never got better when I thought it would. It felt like an easy tutorial throughout the whole game.

>tfw 7 to 8
Maybe, MAYBE if 8th gen started with PS4-Pro and Scorpio and had solid 30/60fps titles, I'd think to care but even 6 to 7 just felt right. Consoles can't handle the leap in graphics AND all the extra pixels.

>The only "Zelda" I´d played before that were Okami and Oracles
That explains a lot.

Okami is good, but it's greatest quality is it's art and universe, not it's gameplay. Oracles is half a game. Oracles was more puzzle focused in one game and more combat focused in the other. They did both very well, but only playing one was really only getting half the exemplary Zelda experience. Not to mention it was 2D, and therefore a TOTALLY different game either way.

denial isn't healthy, user.

you really need to check your eyes

This

stop posting the ps4 version

needs more DoF to cover up that 240p res

They work perfectly fine.

Phoneposter alert.

I would understand that looking amazing if you never played a PC game.
But I've had more than 512MB of vram for a very long time now.

>that flat as fuck lighting
Yuck

Kingdom Hearts has way better combat
Especially Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Mix

I meant closest thing predating OoT.

last of us is the best looking game of the generation, only people who say otherwise are butthurt faggots who will NEVER EVER get to play this masterpiece

>phoneposter alert

stopped reading there, I only do that to bait autists like you.

Both, bilinear texture filtering and antialiasing.
I preferred the blurry textures over the PS1's blocky textures, but the anti aliasing was unnecessary at that resolution.

>TLoU cocksucker is a mobile poster

Can we just fucking ban all mobile posters already?

Resident Evil 4 came out in the 6th gen, and that game was stunning. TLoU looks good, to be sure, but the graphical leap is simply not there. It's less than the difference between any other console generation gap before it.

I think this

10/10 thread

lel

>falling for my bait

pathetic. My sides are in orbit.

lol

just beautiful ;w; *tears in eyes*

>"i was just ~PretendinG~ to be le retarded" meme

>tfw PS2 literally plays PS1 games in N64 mode

>being this bootyblasted

KEK

Pretending to be retarded is the same thing as being retarded.

But you could move around. It's pretty much the only way to beat the final boss. Stop shitposting lies that are so easy to debunk.

I wasn't pretended to be anything, you made a stupid assumption from a simple filename and attempted to throw ad-hominem my way but you were embarrassingly proved wrong.

its okay user TLoU is good to you! and thats all that matters :)

taken from solitude

I think you're a fucking Google.

seeThere's no need to be upset.

Wrong, play it again. Unless its an upgrade later on that I forgot about.

>to me

;^)

>not becoming a futa

see

>Those PS2-tier hair on Ellie
Top kek

source?

Well it's either that or strafe shooting while running in a circle

And better porn

>I knew Mario 64 wasn't Mario

The fuck outta here nigger

>what is Crysis?

brown sheik is pandering to my dick

You can turn the filter off in the PS2 menu I believe

>points me to bait

?

The last of us is on pc though. A horribly laggy stream, but its there.

nice ms paint job ;^)

>I wasn't pretended to be anything
You just said you were. You said to have purposefully renamed the files like that hoping that someone would make that specific assumption. You said you were pretending to be posting from a mobile phone, aka being retarded.

>you
That wasn't me.

>embarrassingly proved wrong
By what exactly? We can't even be sure you weren't actually posting from your phone either. The only one that should be embarrassed here is you.

How is it bait? Youre trying to justify ps3 graphics by posting the remastered version and this user posted the ps3 version???

But uncharted 4 looks better.

Because melees graphics were awful. It was a terrible, dark, muddy visual style exacerbated by rushed, glitchy and unfinished development.

It's off by default, I mentioned is a positive thing.

LOL it looks like dogshit
Star Wars Battlefront easily destroys it

San Andreas definitely wasn't status quo graphics for the time. Everyone said GTA games looked like ass, characters especially.

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You too :^)

this tbqh i remember being shocked at how good condemned looked on the 360

>8.9
BLUNDER

>TLoU looks great 100% of the time

Man, I enjoyed the game and the thing I noticed most was that your flashlight cast actual shadows like 50% of the time.

If a house was part of the plot it got shadows, if it was just on the map it didn't.

That game looked good because it cherrypicked its graphics

Sheikahs and Gerudo are different races you dingus.

Sheik is Kat

Most N64 games look a lot better filtered.

I bet you're one of those retards who Z-targeted every enemy before fighting them.

>SJWs
>2001
They probably started to be a thing in 2007.

Welp, thread's ruined thanks to the Sonygger. I don't know what it is about TLoU graphics but they hurt my eyes whenever I see them. I think it's because everything is so over-saturated and the shitty lighting doesn't help at all.

There's only a handful of parts of the game that look nice, like here:

Play the DS version for glorious unfiltered low poly graphics.

The DS use textures that are a LOT bigger than the N64 ones.

Nintendo forced all developers (with a few exceptions) to use heavy filtering for their games to avoid "looking like Playstation". I can see why.

>SJW and libcucks
>In 2001

Spotted the underage poster. Please stop talking about shit you don't know, kid.

Wasn't Virtual Boy between there?

>orange
Anyway, HAL or especially Sakurai always go for references before working in any character. For example, Mario lastest render in that time was the 64 ones (even though the new Mario render was already being developed), so they based Melee Mario in the renders, just like Melee Link and Pikachu.

That doesn't look anywhere near Playstation. Sad thing is that none of those textures look like they would fit 2KB of cache, let alone the full 4KB.

The "in 2001" part is irrelevant, what you said applies to anyone using those words in any situation. You don't do that, do you?

I remember seeing Ridge Racer PSP screenshots on I think GameSpy in 2004 and being really impressed. GBA was only like three and a half years old at this point. The CD-quality music and 60FPS in a 3D handheld game was fucking crazy, too.
>youtube.com/watch?v=KYdc6tCo2gE

Thanks for the blog, but there's no need to be so butthurt.

Actually liberals have always been a thing. It's just that video games were irrelevant to them.

youtu.be/n1tFbZ5kaY8
This was filmed in the early 90s

Mario is Sicilian

Liberals yes, but SJWs specifically, the keyboard warriors, the cultists etc, nope.

Not so much as forced as the trilinear filtering was built right into the hardware. Quake is one of the only games I could think of that disabled it through software emulation.

They are literally the same thing but with a different platform while just using an excessive amount of acronyms. Same preachiness and obsessions. The arguments Cred Forums has are the exact same fights that have been going on for hundreds, even thousands of years. From Romans to Egyptians we have endlessly argued over to build a wall or not. Our battle isn't anything special.

Turok 1 had it as a cheat (named "Quack mode") and you can disable some of it with Gameshark codes for most games.

god you are such a butthurt pcuck and i dont even like TLOU

I think SJWs are more comparable to the aristocracy than libs etc..
Rich, completely out of reality and fucking everything up with their trivial non problems.

That isn't aristocracy, the term is "bleeding heart liberal"

It's a term used since the 60's. Maybe earlier. Again, this has gone on for a long time.

>I- I'm not gay. I'm f-futasexual.

>Be 10 years old
>In KB Toys
>See this
>Graphics and open world blow my fuckin mind

Mario 64 always looked great because of the Goraud Shading so it's not really effected by the filtering as much

That screenshot is upscaled btw so it's not the best representation

I understand your thoughts user. Too many people here were blinded by the graphics backs then when it transitioned.

>futa sheik
holy guac i never knew i wanted this. just checked and there's nothing on sadpanda for it though.

I feel like graphics have stagnated since around 2007. Just very gradually improving over the years to the point of not even being noticeable.

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nvr 5get

What feature was he advertising anyway? Video streaming from the PS3 to the PSP? It's been so long, I can't remember.

Niggers don't like trannies either, you dipshit memer. Did you forget to post your frog image?

>There will never be a leap in graphics
Not for Nintendo anyway.

ps1 emulation

>youngfags will never know how it felt to go from Super Mario to Mario 64 or Final Fantasy 3 [tl note-6] to Final Fantasy 7
>youngfags will never marvel at the technology of Wave Race 64 or Everquest

Goddamn smash-fags. That game looked like shit at the time; at least post sunshine.

this my bros

so... this is the power... of the ps4... woah...

nice semicolon you pretentious fuck boy

>feeling any sense of superiority on an anonymous forum

Oooooof

If PS4 had a stronger APU that could actually support 16x anisotropic filtering, games would look infinitely better than they do currently.

Take pic related for example. Notice how all the textures look awful and unfiltered? How they all look muddy and clay-like? 16x AF would improve that massively, but according to Digital Foundry, their APUs just don't have the bandwidth to do so.

Or any console
>those trees

And some better AO, so the rocks don't look photoshopped on.

I'm not entirely sure if the rocks are on the ground or suffering from an very bad case of peter panning

He actually looks Italian.

Fuck you dude, looking at n64 graphics is just so lovely. I can´t even express the gratitude I feel watching those low poly adventures.

It's not really an insult, just a generational thing. Kids attach themselves to whatever bullshit is popular when they're young. You guys just got unlucky and group up in a world of unfunny e-celebs and memes. Sorry :(

Disgusting.

>oldbros will die and I will still be alive to play all the great new and old vidya
Tough bananas!

dude spoilers

>opens the spoiler and complains about being spoiled

Reverse traps are my fetish

>sheik is [someone] in disguise
hmmm so Sheik is a disguise, I wonder who is blonde and would be wearing that disguise, HMMMM

spike dies
aeris dies

Could have been Impa in a wig.

Maybe it was a different version of Link who hadn't gone into the Temple of Time.

Darkstalkers and Children of the Atom were an amazing leap in animation over Street Fighter 2. I don't think we'll see anything like that again.