>"Skyrim belongs to the Nords!" >Imperial supporters denounce this as evidence of the faction's racism >Ignores the tolerance for large Dunmer minority-- one of the most vocally xenophobic races in all of Tamriel >Ignores that less than half of named NPCs in Skyrim are even Nords (not even cosmopolitan Cyrodiil was this bad)
Is there anything worse than people who feel very strongly about something, yet willingly ignore information in case it challenges what's been decided as the "correct" view?
William Cooper
It's a bloated sense of nationalism. That problems form from outlanders rather than the traditional resistance to the empire.
Bentley Morgan
>Siding with the Nordfags because "Muh homeland!!!" They were invaders who kill most of the Elves there. Besides, Skyrim has always been part of the Empire. Also, fuck Talos for suggesting the Empire die out.
Caleb Powell
More or less the current mindset of the modern left.
Nords didn't do anything wrong, gas the elves race war now!
Ethan James
>Siding with the white man They were invaders who kill most of the Natives there. Besides, America has always been part of the Globalist Empire. Also, fuck Trump for suggesting the Globalist Empire die out.
Christopher Evans
>Ignores the tolerance for large Dunmer minority Tolerance is a strong word when you see everyone in Stormcloak-controlled lands shitting on the Dunmer for no reason.
Isaac Fisher
Empire died with Martin
Daniel Richardson
Globalism is a cancer that will destroy separate nations.
David Sanders
Bitch do you even know about St. Alessia? The distinguishing feature between Imperials and Nords is that Imperials spent some time as elves' bottom bitches (but not quite as long as Bretons) Cyrodiil was literally founded on the extermination of the Ayleids. Skyrim was getting along just fine with the elves until they initiated the massacre at Saarthal.
Henry Powell
>America builds itself on globalism >Now wants to seperate themselves from it
>American's for America! >Down with the empire!
America = Skyrim
Nolan Powell
Notes were not invaders. Lived peacefully along the snow elves until the night of tears
Matthew Thompson
>no reason Can you name any examples that aren't those 2 drunk unemployed old men when you first enter Windhelm?
Hudson Williams
1) Dunmer pay their taxes, Stormcloaks don't. Remember; the Empire was originally envisioned as an equivalent to the Roman Empire, and Rome didn't give a fuck what you did so long as you didn't fuck with them and you paid your taxes. 2) The Dunmer are only safe because of Ulfric. He dies and they're pretty much dead.
I got nothing for the last one other than shitty representation because Bethesda made a dead world.
Ryder Wilson
there's also that whole Forsworn genocide thing but yeah focus on nationalist rhetoric instead
also Ulfric Stormcloak is a faggot and a puppet of the Dominion
Camden Anderson
There's also the ghetto in the city. Obviously they probably wanted to expand on that, if old mate toddy wasn't so lazy in creating 2 house cities.
Jordan Rogers
>tolerance for Dunmer minority
tolerance is putting it pretty fucking nicely.
Jordan Russell
In Ulfric's defense it's not so much he's "FUCK YEAH THALMOR" so much as he's just really fucking predictable.
Wyatt Cook
>America = Skyrim Bit of a broad statement there mister 60%.
Brody Clark
That's a pass, i'll take it.
Luke Bailey
>Rome didn't give a fuck what you did so long as you didn't fuck with them and you paid your taxes. Also true to Rome the Empire gave zero shits about the Talos worship going on until Ulfric made it an issue and the Thalmor put their foot down.
Dominic Brown
Fair enough, I'm just bantering ya, either ways I always side with Nords for the simple reason that defending the homeland, even if that means everyone dies in the process is better than submission.
Dominic Harris
It's because when the Nords handed refugees the Snow Quarter for free, and gave all residents exemptions to being taxed then it was up to the Dunmer to negotiate cleaning the streets and getting food. They didn't do anything about that and so 200 years later are wallowing in their own shit, blaming Norda for everything.
Windhelm can't even bring job holding Argonians into the city because the ash-DINDUS are so racist that there'd be murders
Elijah Price
I find it kind of funny that Cred Forums often judges harshly about the stormcloaks because they are racist, while most of Cred Forums likes to post fascist bullshit and condemns liberal contens as SJW propaganda.
Julian Rogers
they literally tolerate them existing there, that's what tolerance means not that you should like them
Luke Bell
It's a short term long term thing. With the Empire you're taking back Skyrim and making a victory over the Thalmor that much more likely, but you're taking a gamble as to whether Talos can hold on long enough.
Stormcloaks you're spreading Talos worship and giving the big guy a lot more power to hang on to the world, but you're also gambling that the Stormcloaks can take on the Thalmor and win. Remember, it's made expressly clear that you didn't fight near the entirety of the Empire.
Bentley Jenkins
>playing this shit game instead of Morrowind
Jack Hill
I'm just disappointed that guy really did not shout the other into pieces.
Lucas Hall
If the rest of the Empire becomes mortal enemies to Skyrim fuck it, they'll be fighting on 2 fronts then.
Anthony Cox
Current Bethesda doesn't give a fuck about the writing in their own game, they know everyone will still buy it because they've mastered the science of selling their game to the brainless mass.
Zachary Watson
>for no reason. Dunmer where happy enslaving basically everyone, but especially beast races, these fags where hilarious xenophobe in Morrowind, they even shat on you when you played as Dunmer since you were born outside Morrowind. Then the Oblivion crisis fucked them and suddenly everybody should give a fuck, fuck them, I am glad they get some of their own medicine for a change, I wish there was a torch the ghetto option.
Elijah Bennett
>in Ulfric's defense
Why
Why would you defend that self-important faggot who studied for years under the Greybeards and can only FUS. Can't RO DAH. Can't even RO. Just FUS. He skewered the 12 year old king after cheating by using FUS and then ran away like a pussy. And he thinks he has a legitimate claim to the throne, being a weakling coward as well as a puppet of the elves.
Stormcloaks are faggots.
Luis Roberts
It's only wrong when they're racist against my argonian waifu
Jonathan Myers
>tfw u realize skyrim is literally america >tfw u realize ulfric is trump
Mason Morris
You kind of jumped the gun there, didn't you, buddy?
Shit like that is why Dark Seducers are superior.
Ryan Young
Well, Cred Forums? Which of your runs was your favorite?
Dominic Richardson
>Ulfric is Trump >Ulfric is an idiot blowhard that picks on targets weaker than himself and runs like a bitch when the going gets tough, talks a big game despite being shitty at what he does, and is actually a puppet serving the whims of an enemy state that seeks to sabotage his homeland
What did user mean by this?
Mason Ramirez
The stealth archer one
My only one
Ethan Hall
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Andrew Thompson
I think he meant that Ulfric Stormcloak is actually a terrible businessman when it comes to absolutely anything that isn't real estate and is also a giant hypocrite who changes his positions on shit every five minutes and constantly lies about shit he said in the past and makes his opponent look good in comparison in spite of the fact that she's like 95% as bad as him
Brody Ramirez
Jesus Christ that fits way too well. >Ulfric is an idiot blowhard that picks on targets weaker than himself It's how he killed the High King. He even literally blew on the guy hard enough to knock him over and admits he was stronger and was using the voice to make a point. >and runs like a bitch when the going gets tough, He fucking cheeses it at Helgen when Tullius and the Empire is sticking around to get as many innocent people out of there as possible. >talks a big game despite being shitty at what he does, Is a horrifically shitty boss fight despite his claims >and is actually a puppet serving the whims of an enemy state that seeks to sabotage his homeland His Thalmor dossier.
Daniel Foster
todd is a fucking oracle
Jaxson Ross
I don't Hadvar even has a PayPal, user.
Grayson Morris
>He fucking cheeses it at Helgen when Tullius and the Empire is sticking around to get as many innocent people out of there as possible. Thinking on it, shouldn't that have ended the civil war right there? Like straight up "woah guys we may be fighting but we might want to kill these fucking dragons first" ended it?
Lincoln Nguyen
the interesting thing about OPs post, is that I have absolutely no way of knowing whether he is pro-nord-only-skyrim, or against
nothing about what he said, or the way he said it, gives any clue about which faction, or belief, he's criticizing
people who say nothing on purpose = troublemakers
Evan Sanders
Probably, but Ulfric, as is demonstrated throughout the game, is an opportunistic power-hungry shit and tries to take advantage of the confusion to march on Whiterun
Nathaniel Hernandez
this
Henry Scott
Does it weird anybody out how a lot of storytelling tends to be about 5-10 years behind actual events? Like yeah, I understand it's possible to have some foresight and predict the outcome of events, but it seems to happen pretty consistently.
Ryan Moore
Too close for comfort tbqh.
Jason Sanders
Well, the current climate usually leads to the future climate. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how one thing might lead to another.
Samuel Edwards
Lets be honest no one cares about Skyrim's plot. It seems like Bethesda intentionally gimped down Skyrim's plot and story to make it less complex for casuals and people new to the series.
Thomas Parker
>Empire = SPQR >Stormcloaks = Gauls
Nuff said.
Ryan Stewart
>Skyrim was getting along just fine with the elves kek
Dylan Green
I'd consider that a Bethesda problem. Realistically, of course the dragons would be a huge enough threat to stop all fighting and secure your own territory, but all these characters were written by people who wanted to make a sandbox game. The world waits for you, the player, always.