ITT: subtle vidya clothing

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To be a walking meme of course.

Should I get this?

Sure, if you love you're
>arrow in the knee

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I own this shirt.

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Cringed

>Get sweatshirt
>>Oh hey I love Undertale too!!!!
>>What's your favorite character!?!?!?

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>white dragonborn

>subtle video game clothing
>posts a t-shirt that doesn't have anything videogame related on it

One of the very few acceptable options.

To get pussy, obviously.
Women vastly prefer non-gamer men.

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Isn't that Kumatora's jacket?

>vidya clothing thread
>the literal exact same shitpost images and even the same earnest replies are reposted—again

I want a tshirt with Todd on it, but Todd is wearing the Todd shirt wearing the Todd shirt...etc.

>wear this in public
>get mauled by hamplanet

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I'd unironically wear this and any variations of it, especially Cred Forums - The Vidya

Most subtle video game shirt.

sounds like a dream come true

I know this is from Catherine, and I get that it's supposed to say rave, but was the double entendre intentional or just an example of Engrish in action?

Better size.

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Does it come in futaba colors?

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I thought it was the meme skeleton's hoodie at first glance.

where do you buy these memeshit?

The brown jacket, not the whole outfit.

>Futaba
>not Tomorrow
>ishygddt

Hot Topic :^)

No such thing as subtle Vidya clothing

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>wearing if halfway down like a faggot
>not wearing pic related

>Tomorrow
>not Burichan
>2011+5

what if you wear a ring around your benis

I unironically believe this jacket is subtle.

This is actually pretty good

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Also not video game related.

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>not wearing a lab coat at all times
Fucking neo-Cred Forums

Actually unironic question here.
What do you think of this?

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RALE?

RAHE?

That seems a bit much, but I would totally wear the jacket the Nocturne player character has before becoming the Demifiend. I probably wouldn't pair it with a green hoodie, though.

That's not subtle at all

>black t-shirts with prints
How anyone finds this appealing is beyond me, it looks fucking awful.

TIME TO SPAM GUNS

it's such a jarring combination of shit

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This looks like an 8 year old's pijamas.
You'd have to be autistic to think that this was ok to wear out in public.

>only XXL is in stock
>normal human size will never be in stock again

I like it.

>tfw your cousin annoys you so much you commit suicide right in front of her in the fastest way possible

>Hey who's that kicking minecraft Steve? :)

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if someone wears this in public i swear to god i will punch them in the stomach

>not wearing leather booty shorts and pantyhose

What are you, some kind of faggot?

I think it looks alright

I unironically have this.

[Comona playing in the distance]

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>decide to look up some shirts for this thread
>find pic related immediately
Fuck this thread. I'm out.

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Botswana

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I sometimes post this, but I rarely get any replies. I suppose it's a testament to how subtle it is.

Am I the only one who dresses with style here? Fuck these childish graphic t shirts.

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Better start learning to sew, friendo

What fedora should I buy with this???

I'd unironically wear this
Looks comfy and I'm a huge faggot anyways

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Redbubble is mostly garbage for classic SMT shirts. I really wish they had some kind of rating system on individual products so that really low effort shit could be filtered out.

You're baiting, right?

>wanting to wear anything a nu male cuck with a hipster beard wears

gnope.jpg

Honestly that kind of coat goes much better with a trilby.

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Fangamer is pretty good about generally nice stuff. I used to own their Chronometer shirt and it lasted a good while, plus it was subtle enough to wear out in public without looking like a -complete- sperg.

They're just too fucking expensive now though. I'm not really keen on paying $25 plus shipping for a fucking t-shirt.

>Wearing t-shirts in front of people
Jesus, I don't even let my sister see me wearing one, why do people enjoy them?

Fucking amateur hour over here.
>not wearin a beanie cap with your trenchcoat

Yeah, I like to keep it low key.

>wearing video game clothing

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gross

Bought one of my favourite shirts from fangamer.
Even got a little katamari pin out of it.

>wanting your clothing to be subtle
Why? Subtle clothing is frequently really boring.

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I thought we were just talking casual fashion, but I guess a retard like you pretending to know jack shit about looking cool would wear some weed head gear like that. Pick related with a trench coat is the most pussy you could every get in one afternoon of walking.

better?

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>Cred Forums
not suprised

Unless you're fit, attractive, and confident, you should be doing everything you can to attract the least attention possible.

Do you expect to be excited every time you look down at your tee shirt?

>Egyptian cotton

WE

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it's just a young man with a beard. Why does this trigger you?

Should just wear a shirt saying "I suck huge dicks". That way everyone knows you're gay, not just Fallout fans

I expect to look at my T-shirt and think "That's pretty cool" or "I love it!" or "That's so cute!".

>t. Tailgate Laurelius

POLE POSITIOOOOOOOOOOON

I should get a white t-shirt with this printed on it

Only if you're okay with taking an arrow to the knee XD
*bro fist*

Wow, it's amazing that you can deduce a person's entire life and personality just from one picture. You should work for the FBI, user.

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I actually have this one.
Got the merch bundle when it came out
I wear the delta rune one a lot more though, less autistic.

Every time you look at it? You must be easily amused.

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what?

you are abnormal

Quick Cred Forums

What is your desired "subtle vidya clothing"?

Is this subtle enough?im looking for a hoodie now that autumn has arrived.

If you're cool enough to rock a leather jacket then you have no business buying some tacky licensed video game replica

I would ironically wear this

>there are people who actually wear this

if there wasn't a picture and the text was centered then I'd buy this hat.

Fuck off Quinten

Khakis, a blue button down, and a jacket

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every fucking person in the western world can recognise a pokeball you idiot

>is this subtle
>pokeball right at the front
Do you know what the word subtle means?

Nothing wrong with it if you can pull it off.

Not vidya but I just ordered this

Rate?
Subtle Jojo doesn't exist

I like wearing this because it makes it easy to meet other true gamers.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYY

youtube.com/watch?v=kiEj4RNpYME

I mostly wear it as a joke when i go out with friends and such.
Most of them recognize it too.

i bet i'm the only cool bro whose gonna be rockin this hoodie in winter.

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other true gamers like this girl?

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I rike it. That's about as subtle as you can get with Jojo.

Buy it anyways. Subtlety is stupid. It looks cool.

t. Todd

I mean there's that Kira tie you can get, but that'd only be cool if you wore a tie a ton.

Pokemon GO is insanely popular with the normies right now. Everyone will know what that is

Nope, get rekt you stupid jew.

would unironically wear, retro shit is in right now
>inb4 dreamcast
>retro

please be bait

REMEMBER THE NAME

I'd pose at any faggot wearing JoJo merch.
I don't care if it's autistic as fuck, I want them to feel incredibly awkward.

Would wear

I mean, this is pretty subtle.

Is this too subtle?

What's the M stand for?

C'mon

>undertale shirt

Infinitely. I'd also tongue punch her asshole.

Sure is Tumblr in here.

it looks pretty meh to me.

What game? I wanna say metroid because it's red

jump Man

How about this shirt?

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Are you baiting or just autistic

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>wear this

>everyone in a twenty foot radius (including yourself) gets sick

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manlet

I unironically used this shit when i was in high school.

Those aren't subtle but they're cool anyways and I'd totally wear the Last Guaridan one

It's on eBay should I get it

>Item is sold out.

Its boring

would be sick without the logo.

>not silver

Still neat though, I'd get it.

What would you think of someone wearing this?

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I find myself wearing this, I get a lot of compliments

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Would buy and never wear.

Id ironically wear this

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Oh shit man, is that a Polystation reference?

I only know cause muh project m alts

never have I ever played jet set rodio

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>tfw you bought one of those N7 hoodies
>a week before 3 came out

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Bottom right one is really cool. Where did you get it?

I still see nothing wrong with this image.

Fucking Swedes I swear to god

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If the background was green or some other color that'd work but white just makes it look tacky

Portal is a 3 hour game.

subtle as brick through your window m8

Your MAMA looks tacky, my nigga.

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i have this shirt. everyone thinks it says rape. i no longer wear it.

>Amazon won't ship them to my country
Fucking bullshit. Are they available anywhere else?

all 3 except for the black foxhound shirt are from redbubble.

what wrong with rape?

I'd make intense eye contact and pose back.

newfag

teechap.com/shirts/studiopolis-zone-t-shirt

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I would make my hypothetical girlfriend wear this.

Oh god I want to die.

give a site where we can make shirts plz and I will show you my vidya shirt ideas

subtle Bioshock 2 shirt, I like it.

>Wore a t shirt of this while in high school
>Everyone asking me what brand it was

I know this is probably bait but I'll bite
it's Bomberman

shirtmockup.com/

>bait
it's called a joke, user.

Would this work if you wore it post ironically?

well I suck

>getting a T-shirt and putting the purchase information on the front for the graphic
this is too meta for me to not try

I'd wear this

>Subtle Jojo doesn't exist
Take his shirt hoodie and remove the hearts, bam.

I need dis

is this from that taiko game

The only /effay/ approved vidya clothing.

To be honest, I was considering getting it but I was afraid it'd be one of those things I'd get because I think its cool and then realize it'd be embarrassing to wear in public and then just tuck it away.

>Can't find this exact shirt anywhere online
Why even bother fucking living?

if it had a vaporwave filter it might

I'd wear the fuck out of this, inside my house. Cool for friend reunions I guess.

PK Love?

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Thanks, user.

I would wear this.

That's clearly a new Vegas robot face

underrated post

would buy

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NOT BLUE
O
T

B
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U
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PK Fire β.
At least someone would recognize it

>not getting a recursive shirt

I saw a kid wearing this shirt once.

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PSI Fire ɣ?

Looks like my Laura Palmer shirt

It really isn't. It's okay if you have it and like to wear it, but it still looks like an autism awareness shirt.

HEY ASSHOLE! GIVE CREDIT!

I kek'd

Copy that.

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>tfw when my older brother unironically wanted to buy a FNAF T-Shirt for me

I've never even played the damn game.

This is a normie meme now thanks to president Trump.

I plan on buying this next semester to replace my current bag. If ya see me around the college campus make sure to give me a holla y'all ;)

pls forgive me mr. smithygon

kek
the dude didn't even include a "pls gibe credit" in the image though

w2c??????????

I got a medium sized version of this at E3 a few years back at Sony's booth. Its a bit darker than this image, but it's pretty sturdy overall.

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It's a white nationalist emblem
Shitposting is the new normie meme keep up senpai

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Oh I would wear it still, just for the triggers. And then correct them by asking if they don't like rave and so on.

>atari
Do they still make anything besides the plug n play crap?

Would actually be pretty good without the medkit

All I want is a Windjammers T-Shirt but I know that I'll never find them anywhere.

this is from Wikipedia

On June 22, 2014, Atari announced a new corporate strategy that would include a focus on "new audiences", specifically "LGBT, social casinos, real-money gambling, and YouTube".[49]

Sweet IKEA sweaters, where can you get one of those?

I think less of anyone wearing FNAF shirts

Assassin scum.

You cannot stop us; you cannot stop the future.

May the Father of Understanding guide us.

Should I cop?

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>"What's snatcher?"
>"My name....and occupation."

How the mighty have fallen. They gotta pander to children, addicts, and loud faggots who don't play video games

looks like shit.

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Holy shit, why is his face so inconsisten.

New banner.

That would be a pretty sick winter sweater.

what is the second kana meant to be on that shirt? I'm fucking new as shit

I bought both the shirt and hat from the valve store for a Halloween costume and it didn't have the medkit.

that was 2010 though. Dunno if they still sell it anymore.

Do we need to have this thread every day?

I'd enter her portal.

or this one

RAGE

Pretty sure that's "na".

It reeks of KnowYourMeme

>tshirt is wider than it is long

are people really this fat in america? Literally the top half of your body is wider than it is tall? jesus fucking christ

that one looks much better

>look this up
>only Chinese sellers
why life

Would unironically wear

>except once again tshirt is wider than it is tall, wtf is wrong with americans

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I would wear this.

This would be 10/10 if there wasn't a Cirno silhouette on the breast.

60+ teams working around the world and lack of centralized communication/delegation.

Why the would the fuck would you care? When is the last time you left your bedroom, let alone the house?

What's the story behind this image?

>those tshirt proportions

I know it's a mockup but jesus fucking christ

Fuck off Vlad

PRASE LE SUN xD

You'd get a lot of literal redditor attention. And almost exclusively redditor attention.

I never screencapped thread, but someone on /vp/ posted about "based bug pokemon" and that was the response image.

I would actually wear this.

Information desynchronizing

Dude the very hungry caterpillar is the shit

A pepe shirt is like reverse thieves' cant. Normies will see it in public and think meme, we'll see it in public and immediately know the wearer is autistic.

you trying to say there's something wrong with Hawaiian shirts there pal?

> blue arms
> ears

Same dude... same.

I'd wear this

I must be dyslexic. I initially read this as "Dick Racing".

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If you wear that shirt, YOU LOOK LIKE A REAL JERK!

I'd wear it if it was just one sprite

DId you play some casuals with him?

It is certainly subtle, I'll give you that.

>You'd have to be autistic to think that this was ok to wear out in public.
You have to be a complete fucking detached from reality sperg to think that a plain red jumper with a black and white checked decal is something anyone would think twice about if you wore it in public. Don't call other people autistic when you make complete fucking autistic posts which display a legitimate complete lack of understanding of human social interaction, you fucking pathetic manchild.

I fucking hate obnoxious cunts like you who should have been aborted. Basically the majority of people are like this who were born in the past 20 years in North America. You're nothing but a drain on humanity. Drink bleach and make the day slightly better for everyone else alive at the moment.

I don't mind what they think I just thought it was subtle enough that normies would think its just some neat design.

>that bright as fuck blue
>not this

user, dearest of all my friends.

It's 2016; time to let go of the Hawaiian shirts and embrace an all white suit.

Also, I would fuck her.

very nice.

DON'T

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>wearing a nigra

>Sure is Tumblr in here.

Looks like someones too low test to grow a beard.

its a man baby

top tier shitposting faggot

I'd wear it and I've never been to reddit.

Same to you, little boy

Everyone who says they haven't been to reddit is either lying or is actually stupid enough to get sucked into Cred Forums culture and the "I dont use redit because im not gay haha" meme.

People just come here to shitpost and occasionally leak details anonymously. Don't take it any more seriously than that.

only people i see unironicaly growing beards are numale cuckboys that enjoy fallout 4

i would know
T. the guy that cucked you

>Other M suit

Would you?

or you know old enough to have never given a shit about it

You'll be able to grow a beard when you're older, don't fret about it so much.

I own this shirt so, yes

nigger i can grow a bead i just shave it off

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People like you dilute what Cred Forums is really meant to be about. it's about discussion and just that with no other bullshit. No names, no points, no history. The anonymity brings shitposting, that's an inevitability, but it's not what the site is about, and never has been. Bringing in that mentality is what's shitting up this site in the first place.

>admiral bullshit

it's a weirdly stylized To, spelling BIITO (Beat)

>Liking rats

fuck off Revved

Well good for you that you can grow a bead. I thought they were made, not grown, but whatever.

I was talking about a beard though. You'll be able to grow one once you hit puberty, probably.

no
>wearing gaming tshirts
>ever

I like EG
it just came to mind when subtle

My high school wrestling coach wore Legend of Zelda shirts and he was the toughest motherfucker I knew

>what Cred Forums is really meant to be about
It literally started with the few originalfags using names and then people realised you could come in as an user and troll people and it grew from there.

Unless you were originally posting as a namefag on the anime boards back at the site's creation you can shut the fuck up.

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>My high school wrestling coach wore Legend of Zelda shirts and he was the toughest motherfucker I knew

that just makes me not want to wear one even more

ya well not everyone is tough like him and cant afford to wear stuff that'll get them made fun of or beat up

RTZ? TI5? TI6?

I own this shirt too.

I bought one for a friend and my son to sleep in as well.

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But user, EVERYTHING IS CHINESE MADE.

I followed the team for Universe and the others. RTZ is cool but not my favorite

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I'm wearing shirt on the right right now

it's pretty awesome

Fear is my boy, I miss him already. Good thing he's coach at least.

The first time I booted Portal I beat in one sitting unintentionally. It's short as fuck

they were from insertcoinclothing but they have been sold out for years

not Trump shirts

Probably an ABSOLUTE MADMAN. Would actively avoid.

>normies make it 4 player game with items on, default time limit so winner is decided by KOs
>choose puff, vamp until they've gotten each other to a high % then rest into them and steal all the kills

I fucking love jigglypuff

Not bad. I'd probably wear that.

Thanks to /r9k/ you mean.
That shit backfired hard.

Theoretically speaking, how good would a shirt/hoodie/sweater/whatever in black with this crest in white on the back and right side of the chest look?
Or black on white, whichever.

>anime viewer
>think's graphic t shirts are "sick"

Good.

I own a shirt almost exactly like this, except its Doom 3.

I've never played a doom before NuDoom but its one of my favorite shirts

>The Last Guardian
Who the fuck buys a shirt featuring a character from a game that isn't even out yet

Every person I see wearing a leather jacket is either fat or a skinny white boy

>I own a Doom 3 shirt
>I've never played Doom before

That's not vidya. How can it be vidya if there's nothing vidya about it?

TOP KEK FAMBRO PEPE MEEMS AMIRITE

I've had it for a long time, no idea where it even came from. I avoid wearing outside if I can but its comfy as fuck.
How would I go about playing the original? I liked what I played of the new one but id like to see the first one or two.

>Wow, user, I didn't know you worked at Data East

>dad has diablo 3 shirt
>has never played any diablo
>wears it all the time
it actually triggers me little

I want to find this jacket

So were all in agreement Johnny best Jojo

>How would I go about playing the original?
internet

They started selling their old stuff again pretty recently.

To think the edge game has a subtle shirt

bretty good

I would have written him off as a blizzcuck for even wearing a Diablo 3 t-shirt in the first place because that game sucked ass and shat all over D2 fans that had been waiting for years.

The fact that he hasn't even played it is just the icing on the cake though.

I deserve this.

i won this

I would buy it but probably never wear it outside of the house

I can almost guarantee none of that money will ever reach the original creators of the game. Just torrent it, you're not doing a good deed by paying the money, it's not gonna get to anyone who made the game.

Saw a dude wear this a little while ago,told him that his shirt was neat.

At no point during the time it took you to type that out, select the image, complete the captcha and hit Submit did it occur to you that your post says absolutely nothing and is a waste of bandwidth. What the fuck are you doing?

Check this shit out
verycoolshirtz.com/

>all these fake depression shirts

THIS is why i stopped using reddit.
you say anything that could in any way contradict the "Narrative"
(In this case, He wasn't bowing down and Kissing the Feet of the Grill, Redditors treat Females like gods; in the sense that if you Criticize her in any way they see RED),
then the hivemind of Whiteknight FedoraVirgins downvote you to hell.

eeh, the art is really flat and undetailed looking...

Reminds me of One Piece if anything.

Farmingdale? Ty bro

>What the fuck are you doing?
shitting on people that make the same unfunny joke for the 10th time this thread

Subtle?

You probably have autism.

W-Will Forte?

huh.

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all of the Hot Topic ones are all pretty garbage IMO

look at Pic related, It has 2 Fucking logos.
They could've made some good shit, But instead we get 2 shitty Part 3 shirts and a mediocre stone mask one with an unnecessary Logo.

You threw a bunch of random words together, none of which had any use in getting any kind of point across, and posted them. This is not shitting on anyone, it's acting like a retard.

That is way too memetic.

Mozart

10/10 would wear

Just go to /vr/ and find the doom thread

But Mozart wouldn't wear anything like this.
More like a skullcap

I can't stand apathetic teenagers who pretend to have depression or anxiety and say shit like "hahaha I sure do love wanting to kill myself :)"

I just assumed it was either Japanese thinking English and US memes are funny, or one of the highest stages of irony.

>subtle

Guys, I fucking got this.

half this thread is faggots screaming cuck. jesus christ kill yourselves already.

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man i really hate these cringey ass mashup shirts.

Sure, Mozart.

some of these are pretty effay

>hating the lootcrate specials

Actually saw someone wear one of these when I was working. Wasn't quite sure what to make of it.

>don't dead, open inside
What did they mean by this?

Goddamn Catherine in a nutshell. Piece of shit made me wish I was a virgin.

Let me help you out, The original developers said they don't care if you pirate the first 2 games (Hell, They probably Encourage it.), Because none of the money goes to them anyway.

I Bought them on steam because i didn't want to bother finding a safe download, and because i wanted to have them in my Steam Library.

Don't play the the Steam version, they are just shitty DOSbox versions that barely work. You'll want to use a "source port", i recommend GZDoom for your first time.

To get the Source Port to work you need the "iwad" files from the original games, so heres a Download for them (provided by me, it's safe):
https:// mega. nz/ #!7MdHGZiR!G0-NrHaU2h969wMOoqcZIHkH4HleDIHqtfBrK6sWx4E (remove the spaces)

Heres where to download GZDoom: gzdoom.drdteam.org/page.php?page=download

you can probably figure it out from here, Google shit. Oh, and for multiplayer, Use "Zandronum", You'll also want to look into Mods.

>a TV commercial 90 seconds in length
WHAT IS THIS SORCERY?!?!

Really want a shirt like this without the text

Fun fact: I knew a kid in high school who wore this hoodie almost every day

Fifteen thousand fucking videos

>Imagine being at computers so fat you look and see food

Because it's a shit series. Same reason why they decided Desmond should look like Adam Sandler in the first place.

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As a true Cred Forums veteran and oldfag I always amusingly confound normies with this hat and then take great delight in condescendingly explaining its meaning to them.

If anything this one's practically a parody of mashup shirts.

How subtle is this Cred Forums?

I'll bet you scoff at people who eat Snickers bars with their hands.

COOL VIBRATIONS
I WANNA DANCE

the year is 20XX

Kek, its legitimately funny, and it wont make normies look down on you.

Andrew? ?

Like if you understand this reference XD

The challenges are pretty great, though. Only recently finished all six Advanced levels, nowhere near getting gold time/portals on most, and even bronze steps are elusive.

Canon Dragonborn is a nord therefore white.

I know I'm late, but this is probably approaching subtle

Ok that's a nice fucking jacket, not a fan of the N7 but I would Hounestly consider buying this

Your wife's son?

it's supposed to be To ト

Only if you were megachad, then you would just be demoted to regular chad but it probably wouldn't be worth it.

They publish games in japan

This entire thread is proof that no good video game shirts exist.

I got this one, never wore it and tucked it away deep in my drawer. In the time it took between me ordering it and it getting delivered Undertale turned into a pile of cancer that I just can't bring myself to associate with.

>filename
fuck you

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/m/ related, but i'd get a shirt with this on it.

>not wearing the officially licensed Top Nep hat

It's like you don't even Nep.

Would you?

Source?
would you?

Cred Forums is actually taking it back from normies after /r9k/s peepee poopoo shit blew up in their faces.
Who would've thought that /r9k/ can't do anything right.

What a great t-shirt to say "I'm a massive faggot who loves giving my money to the acti-blizz jews"

No one can wear this shirt and get away with it.

NO ONE.

It's a black tee, for starters.Nothing wrong with plain black tees (if they fit right/nice material).

But.

Right away, you can see it has a Wal-Mart tier picture on it. Literally something you would find at a Wal-Mart or Target discount isle; right when you walk into the store. So, naturally, these shirts are made of crap. They fit awful, unless your body is pear shaped and wavy. Plus, no matter how often you wash these kinds of shirts, they will ALWAYS have lint and shit on them.

Not ironically. Not post ironically. Not ever.

Never.

Ever.

unless you're a hot grill. They can wear a shirt with cp on it, made out of actual cheese pizza and probably pull it off somehow.

I would legitimately wear this if red shirts didn't look godawful on me.

I own one

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Thinking if getting either this or an isaf one

>user why do you have a lady benis gedding benisdd!? :DDDDDDD

top left is dope

So you just go shirtless?
Especially in front of your sister?

*tips fedora*

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I own this one.
Not very subtle but mane, it sure is cool as fug.

Do any shirts exist with the moon from Majora's Mask replacing the moon from Le Voyage dans la Lune? That would be neat.

Comfy

redbubble.com/es/people/yarvenclog/works/12690264-melies-shot-majoras-moon?grid_pos=389&p=t-shirt

Meh.

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How many times do we have to tell you user, you don't want to become Autism Bunny.

I like this one

Well you could fit a few guns there.

>Tfw you are a fan of wrong faction

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Worry not anons, here I will post an actual piece of subtle vidya clothing.

Too bad I'm too skinny to make this look good.

>edge the jacket.

Michael

>tacky
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Perfect. Where can I get one?

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rave.

Those are made in Mexico :3

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I would actually wear this.

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I actually own something like this

Probably would look better on a plain black or white shirt.
I know I'm late, I just wanted to say it.

jesus christ

>man you must really love game of thrones

is that the angry joe jacket?

Is that Fat Joe's jacket?

Is this Furious Felipe's jacket?