Unpopular vidya-related opinions thread

Logs are just as bad as static cutscenes, it doesn't matter that they are optional because when accessed there's no significant difference. They are displayed and you passively receive information without an interactive component. They never, NEVER convey anything that couldn't have been communicated in the active gameplay segments giving the player a chance to observe and discover things which is actually rewarding. If you must have something like a note containing vital instructions, it can be seamlessly incorporated into the environment as something that isn't specifically marked and has to be interacted with in normal gameplay rather than crude log-space.

Platinum is a huge meme. I genuinely think they're combat is all flash. And it's a fact that they are terrible at all other aspects.

Games do not always have to be focused on gameplay.

Persona was a a much needed breath of fresh air for JRPGs.

Nintendo should move away from makimg platformers for a while.

TLOU is a good game.

Demon souls have one of the worst sountracks Iv'e ever heard in a game.

MGSV is the only MGS I've ever played and I was still disappointed
I would prefer Paradox just release new games rather than fuck up my old ones. I don't know how unpopular this is in truth, but I'd prefer spending another 60$ for a CK3 rather than have them patch it so it now plays completely differently than how it was when I bought it.

The next Metroid needs to be first person for the series to have any hope of recovery

I've played FFI, FFVIII and every game in between (except III) and I think IV was the worst one. Yes, worse than II.

I liked MGSV

JRPGs are ridiculously overrated, and seem to be coveted as games for people who think themselves to be intelligent. Most have combat systems that are akin to watching download progress bars. plots that are needlessly convoluted and trying way too hard to be philosophical, characters that are hilariously cliched and usually whiny.

IV is definitely among the most boring.

#FE

Is my GOTY

We're not in the 90's/early 2000's anymore dude. JRPGs are niche nowadays.

Persona 1 is a good game and Persona 2 is gutter trash with P3/4 being decent

Gears of War is the best TPS of all time

I love Vanquish but GoW still tops it imo

>console shooters being the best anything

I have crap friends then :(

>>A controller is better for more genres than a mouse and keyboard is.
Double digit IQ detected

Sorry, but it's the truth friend. Feel free to provide a game that you believe counters my claim.

DmC was a worthy addition to the franchise and, in fact, an improvement on a lot of the core concepts.

The combat was streamlined, making it much easier to pull off combos. They lost a lot of the cheap enemy designs. They made Dante actually agile (outside of a specific style) and the platforming less shit. The characters actually spoke like normal human beings and were far more believable than any of the forced dialogue of previous iterations.

Fallout 4 polished what fallout new vegas and fallout 3 lacked, and that is proper physics, character weight and gunplay. The character creation is miles ahead of what we used to have, the Hair is a SIGNIFICANT improvement. It removed the useless dialogue options that created further confusion, and or locked you out of opportunities. You can argue this with me to the death but imo fallout 4 will always be the better GAME, maybe not a better rpg, but still a better game.

Batman arkham knight added a slew of characters to play as, an enourmous map, the batmobile, and a really interesting story focusing on the death of joker, and the retirement of bruce wayne. It felt like more of a complete batman experience. Overall it was my 2nd favorite game next to asylum, the only reason being, in asylum you get to play as joker.

DmC fixed the horrible camera scheme and added physics to the series. In the other devil may cry games dante & vergil felt like paperweights with no actual physics. While I dislike the redesigns, there was also a classic costume for both characters. The devil trigger was actually way more indicative of a power change, than simply magic spiky armor. Overall I liked it better than most devil may cry games. The environments, the controls, camera, physics, and even the demons felt like an improvement.

M&KB
>FPS
>RTS
>Hack 'n slash
>CRPG
>Point and click adventure games
>Most simulation games
>Most puzzle games
>Some rhythmn games

Controller
>2D platformers
>3D Platformers
>Racing
>Fighting
>ARPG
>JRPG
>Twinstick Shooters
>Fighting games
>Pretty much every 3D game you have to manouever in without an isometric or first person view, actually
>Some Puzzle games
>Most rhythmn games

And I say this as someone whose primary gaming platform is his PC

DmC isn't really all that bad and nobody would hate it if it had come out under a different name.

Bioshock 1 isn't all that good as a game and should have been a movie instead. The atmosphere and novelty wears off after just 2 hours of playing and the game mechanics are pretty garbage.

Mass Effect was never good.

MGS is not fun to play. Another game that should have been a movie or a book instead.

Dark Souls is just plain not fun and tedious.
>gitgud
I already got gud. I've played for like 30 hrs. It's just plain not fun. That's all there is to it. It's a fucking tedious slog for people with no achievements in real life to make them feel good about themselves for fighting something 100 times over and over again.

Anyone who isn't a weird autist has some kind of gamepad for their PC anyway, at least if they emulate.

Videogames should try to give more focus on narrative however it should never overshadow gameplay in terms of development and emphasis.

Although it had amazing games gen 6 was the beginning of the end. We ignore it because there was a fuck ton of games to keep us occupied and we were younger.

Gen 5 3d isn't as terrible as people make it out to be, I find it easy to deal with.

>thinks they have an opinion on the best TPS
>havent played max payne

>nobody would hate it if it had come out under a different name.
At the same time I suspect the game would've garnered very little interest if not for the brand and controversy.

>le modern gaming is bad meme

Agreed otherwise

I guess more people appreciated DmC than I had anticipated.

There is literally nothing wrong with enjoying ASSFAGGOTS.

Played 3. It was good. I still think GoW is better. At least in terms of mutliplayer. Max Payne's story is definitely better than GoW's.

>le I didn't play games before 2007 meme

It's all about marketing. I think the industry as proven that good marketing can bolster a new IP, especially if it's backed by good gameplay. Just look at Bayonetta.

I felt that ME3 ending wasn't that bad, after playing DE:HR recently.

I thought that last gen was still pretty good though. this gen is still terrible but maybe it will get fixed some day like the PS3's library

I'd rather talk about how much it sucks that dueling has been forbidden for quite some time now. Just think how many men could settle their disputes permanently. Or get killed like the fools they are and help the gene pool. And the biggest joke is that movements against duels were started by kings that kept losing qualified officers and since there were wars to be had, they needed their military personnel to stop slaughtering each other during peacetime. It was a decision porn of pragmatism and not some idiotic ideals of human rights or preservation of life, unlike how some like to dress it up.

>Star citizen

How is this unpopular? You sound like another one of the shitposters that make up those threads.

Autistic basement dweller detected

You and everyone on Cred Forums would die in their first duel

You have to admit there definitely was a drop in quality around gen 7.

It was artistically brilliant and mechanically competent. It wasn't the best game but it sure as hell wasn't the worst. I just wish that it would have been its own thing so that we could get a sequel that improves on it.

speak for yourself faggot

This. I wish people would just accept this.

Yeah, the way they portrayed Limbo was fantastic. Even five playthroughs in, it still surprised me how they were able to animate all that. Really impressive.

Been playing since 93 mate.

Early on? Definitely, sure. But it picked back up around 09 and besides a few dead studios/series/genres and DLC nonsense I'm still perfectly happy with the industry as a whole and play lots of games I like every year.

>Played 3
That means you actually didn't play.

How the fuck is Hack n' Slash better on Keyboard?

>You and everyone on Cred Forums would die in their first duel
>everyone

I clearly did speak for myself, that was the point. I'm not spergy enough to imagine I'd do well in duels.

It'd be a win-win either way. And the chances are 50/50 if you're up against someone who isn't a professional marksman. And most people are not.

...

>his opinion of himself is so low that he believes he can't point a boomstick in general direction of his opponent and pull the trigger

kek

AOE III is better than II

Dark souls games are shit and the only thing their fans can do to defend them is say git gud because they don't want to face the fact that they spent many many precious hours of their life fighting just one boss for about 30secs an attempt when they could have just done literally anything else.

Was DmC good, rather then mediocre? There's pressure to call everything either amazing or terrible, but games like DmC fall somewhere between in that they won't be remembered as classics but will nonetheless have a small circle of fans even years later.

>DmC isn't really all that bad and nobody would hate it if it had come out under a different name.

Everybody thought this. It was apparent when people who didn't like/care about the old DMC games enjoyed it quite a bit. It still deserved to flop

People who say MGS is a good game really need to play it again. It's terrible. The controls are bad, the AI is atrocious, and all of that backtracking is completely unjustified.

Ace Attorney 3 is the worst Ace Attorney game and people who like Godot need to re-evaluate his character. He has one gimmick, and he never takes the court room seriously, his personal vendetta against Wright is just silly and really diminishes any chance of fun interactive or serious dialogue between the defense and prosecutor. Furthermore, having 3 of 5 cases revolve around a singular character is boring and killed any joy I would have gotten from the game.

Simply trying to hit your opponent would already raise your chances dramatically.
As long as you do that, you're likely to win.

i only manage to like the artstyle myself
>can pull SSS without trouble
i hardly can do that shit on any other dmc

More potential keybinds, better loot management, clickan is better than sticks for movement.

Though I'll admit my only experience with trying a controller in a h&s game is Diablo 3 and Pillars of Eternity

Took you 30 hours to beat Dark Souls?
Sounds like you need to git gud, friend.

I thought Witcher 3's graphics were great and I did not see a problem, anything that comes out of E3 is usually for presentation.
Blood and wine was okay, not fantastic and the graphics look like something out of oblivion looked very downgraded to me.

>playing games for fun is okay
>100% completion isn't autism
>Dust An Elysian Tail was pretty fun and Fidget is cute
>following a Spycrab is a nice way to pass a bit of time
>comp TF2's 4 class meta is poor design enforcing and reinforced by the community's irrational love of 5CP to the exclusion of A/D
>challenge runs, even self-imposed, are a valid way to extend gameplay time
>Cred Forums's decline in quality correlates with its decline in namefags

Final Fantasy 7 goes to shit after you leave midgar

Wow holy shit I meant Path of Exile not Pillars.

How the fuck did I mix that up.

Star wars: Battlefront is actually good in both gameplay and visuals, if nothing else, the gameplay is very similar to that of the old battlefront 2, the only thing stopping this game from being great is the lack of story mode

>challenge runs, even self-imposed, are a valid way to extend gameplay time
How is this unpopular?

DMDM

Lords of the Fallen > Soulsborne
Lords of the Fallen Game of the Year 2014
Hatred Game of the Year 2015
Homefront: The Revolution Game of the Year 2016
The Evil Within > Resident Evil
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men is fucking awesome.
Kane & Lynch 2: Dog Days is super fucking awesome.
Mortal Kombat > Street Fighter, Tekken, The King of Fighters, Soulcalibur, etc. etc.

I had more fun playing DmC than any other Devil May Cry game, and yes, I've played them all. I'm not sure if this addresses your question at all. Under a unique IP, it probably wouldn't have surpassed more established beat 'em ups, like GoW or DMC, but it definitely would have gained a following (like you said). I hesitate to call it a cult following, though. That term should be reserved for media the runs against the established mold of "good."

My friend is still adamant that the original holds up. Heck, I prefer the Twin Snakes remake over the original. Voice overs and all.

edgy!

Undertale was actually the best game of 2015. It's the most creative game I've ever played, and although the art was ugly at times, the music was fantastic and gameplay was fun as fuck.

Now this is what I call unpopular.

I don't think it goes to shit, but you're right in that Midgar is this giant high point that the rest of the game never quite reaches again. Without Midgar, I don't think most of us would remember that game as fondly.

i didn't notice much differences with the voices
i also prefer TS
>after replaying it a few times i started replaying it every day for a month trying to do it better after every run
>less time less enemies killed less shit

Yeah Undertale was legitimately a good game. Cred Forums just has Autism.

I've got undeniably the most unpopular vidya-related opinion here
>videogames are fun

Thanks, Reddit.

>I had fun
That's great but says more about you than any given video game.

The redubbed lines is one of the common gripes levied at that game.

Someone else already said that

Dark Souls 2 isn't an awful game like everyone says.

Nah man you legit have shit taste. Controversy doesn't make a game good. Every single fucking game you listed is abject garbage that would be forgotten if not for the controversy around them. Hell, homefront fucking WAS forgotten. Legitimate shit tier, teenager taste.

I enjoy normie games like Bioshock Infinite.

I also prefer controllers over mouse and keyboard, although I'm painfully aware how inaccurate controllers are for shooty games.

There is literally no good modern MP games on PC. Maybe Halo 5 Forge, but there isn't a server browser for it yet.

LOL threads are great, so are Quest threads.

GTA San Andreas is fucking shit.

Games before 1990 are mostly shit and have aged very poorly mechanically.

I started regularly browsing Cred Forums only 2 years ago.

Vanila Skyrim is better than vanilla Morrowind. The latter's progression system is mostly the same, ie you can only level up weapons by using them. Therefore it's basically the same game but with different levels of abstraction obscuring the basic functioning of the game.

Also HL2 has aged like milk, in retrospect the gravity gun is cool but the game itself is more of a giant physics demo than an actual game. HL1 had more weapons and overall was the better shooter. HL2 SMOD is probably one of, if not the, best shooters ever.

>There is literally no good modern MP games on PC
fuck you KF2 and Payday2 are good

Lords of the Fallen and The Evil Within were mediocre at worst, and Mortal Kombat is a decent series.

>There is literally no good modern MP games on PC.
dont think thats a unpopular opinion , its a fact
i agree with the GTA SA being shit too , its the only GTA i droped halfway

Playing videogames is detrimental in nearly all aspects.

Witcher 1 was the only game with good story.
Witcher 2/3 were okay but hearts of stone had the best story.

Troika are some of the most overrated developers of all time and rightfully went under after being unable to release a finished product during their lifetime.

I agree with all of these actually. Love TEW, LotF, and MK. MKX was disappointing roster and story wise though

People shouldn't feel pressured to play video games the way other people want them to. If you have a preference for how you like playing video games and it's a viable option, stick with it. Don't let anyone else suggest that you're "playing the game wrong".

There's no reason to ever play a shooter without a mouse

The best logs confirm what the player can already see - e.g. lab notes about the biology of a creature you encountered in the last room (Subject has developed the ability to produce and ignite flammable substance. Increased aggressive tendencies, but containment is secure). It lets you know more that what you’re seeing is part of the world rather than just because you're plot-important.

It gets the whole "autism" meme treatment, especially if it's a tool-assisted run by necessity. I've even seen them deride LobosJr for streaming a "parry only" run of Dark Souls, and of course Cred Forums is almost polarizingly split over pannenkeok2012.

I agree. Definitely not GOAT, but the different endings, the setting, the music, and the easter eggs (calling Undyne when on Alphys's moving walkway, for example) make it pretty strong, no matter that it's not difficult.

You are so fucking hipster it hurts

dark souls 1 was the best game of the 3, dark souls 2 was the worst.

the first witcher game is the best, the second witcher game is the worst.

yokai watch 1 was wayyy more fun than pokemon y

league of legends has the best 2-lane moba map, and it's the best moba for when you DON'T want to play 3 lane games.

bloodline champions was the only moba where it was literally a multiplayer online battle arena, and it's a shame it died.

ffxiv is a pretty fun mmo and it's pretty much the weeb alternative to WOW at this point.

Are you a Kurwalander?

DMDM: Skyrim is the best in the series and if you weren't blinded by nostalgia you'd see how shit morrowind is.

The Kane & Lynch games are cult classics.

There is literally nothing wrong with playong a shooter with a gamepad.

unscoped accuracy 64%
scoped 83%

on a xbox pad. kb/m is just plain uncomfortable.

>dark souls 1 was the best game of the 3, dark souls 2 was the worst.

thats not unpopular at all user, that's the official Cred Forums opinion

i think playing fps on a controller would be perfectly fine if the right stick had more room for movement or could be made to move more precisely.

DMC hasn't been good since 1. The entire point of the Dante character was that he inhabited a Resident Evil-like world but instead of being concerned for his own safety and being taunted by bosses, he taunts them and acts like a smug cunt

Every subsequent game moved away from an RE-style universe, and thus the character fell flat. Also the ssstylishness was overrated, DMC1 combat is still the best in its elegant simplicity.

That's a good opinion.
BUT I hate when someone plays a game in a unusual way and then complains about the game being bad. No cunt, you are definitely playing it wrong.

I don't like the DMC series, mainly 3 and 4.
The heavy combo potential makes it very easy to cheese everything to death and I get more enjoyment from complex/strong enemies that I need to work my way around instead of trying to be stylish sandbagging them.

>Dark Souls 1 was best and 3 was worst
Not an unpopular opinion in any sense of the word.

>Cred Forums is one person

that's just the opinion of someone with taste, and Cred Forums is full of casuals who couldn't get past assylum demon

>Cred Forums is full of casuals who couldn't get past assylum demon

Jesus you think you actually are hardcore or something for beating DS1. Literally everyone agrees even off of Cred Forums that DS2 is the worst and DS1 is the best.

Actually, I thought DS2 was the best game in the series. I beat all the games in the series btw, including Bloodborne.

Bioshock 2 is better than Bioshock 1 in every single way.

Oh yeah, I can definitely understand that. It wouldn't surprise me if some people didn't like Blood Money because they tried to play it like a traditional TPS instead of a stealth game, when the stealth aspect is where most of the fun comes from.

I think a better example of a game that lets you play how you want and still have fun is MGSV, despite how much shit Cred Forums gives it.

Yeah you're totally not trying to "prove" your own point. Dark Souls isn't hard, loser.

>literally everyone agrees
"literally" everyone agrees that the dlc of dark souls 2 puts it over the first. and Cred Forums IS full of casual gamers, or do you not remember the nonstop shitposting about how the graveyard area shouldn't be right next to the first bonfire

LOLIS MAKE MY DICK SOFT

RE4 is the only good game in the entire RE franchise.

>hating on lolies

It's ok to not like them if they aren't oppai lolies.

>He thinks casuals can't beat Dark Souls

I'll repeat myself, Dark Souls isn't hard. You obviously think you're some hardcore "gamer" or something otherwise you wouldn't have pretended that retards can't get past the assylum demon. Anyone can beat dark souls.

I'm not though?

I feel that 30fps has the potential to be better than 60+ fps in many cases.

The DLC didn't fix that almost every area in the game past the first one being a linear hallway. Even if the layout of areas in 3 is linear the areas themselves aren't and can actually be explored. Good luck exploring places like Aldia's Keep. Even some that are expansive and non linear are very poorly designed like the Lost Bastille which for no reason has multiple entrances, a boss that can be skipped and a handful of shortcuts that actually don't make any trips shorter.

It also didn't fix terrible mechanics like ADP. It didn't fix the NPCs (except for Pate, Creighton and Jugo) all having incomplete story lines that are "They went to Majula then stayed there forever".

U wot m8

anywyay

The Arkham games are really poor. I don't understand the love for them other than being decent adaptions of the comics

I think Dark Souls 2 is unfairly bashed but it's still better than 3

I never enjoyed a GTA game before I played V

I though the huge number of playable characters in Chrono Cross represented soulless ambition rather than good design.

I enjoyed Starfox Adventures more than Skyward Sword or Twilight Princess

I think MGS2 is really boring. I can't go back to playing it because of the needless cutscene interruptions (I know you can skip them) and the just generally lifeless feel of the plant.

Non-games like Asura's Wrath will be the norm in the future.

The reason why Dark Souls is considered hard is because it requires patience and a level of introspection to analize where you may have failed.

Which says much about our generation.

3 is the weakest Max Payne game in terms of story and gameplay though. It's also somewhat mechanically broken because of all the fucking last chance moments and cover shooting.

1 is best for story buy 2 is where the Max Payne gameplay truly shines.

I really like Gears of War as well but Max Payne 2 beats it in gameplay. If you love TPS you need to go play it.

Yo dude I think your outa wack and I wanna spout my opinion because welcome to Cred Forums

>Some rhythm games
All of em' dummy, it's either point and click or button press there's no difference from z-x to a-b. Think about it boyo.

>Fighting
>Fighting games
How is this not the same thing, unless you talking games like, nidhog, and toribash. Both of which excel on neither. And a keyboard is just as reliable as controller for fighting games. Look at Skullgirls pros. What YOUR thinking of is A FIGHTING STICK, which is not a controller.

>ARPG
>JRPG
wait wot how

>Most rhythm games
>:^(

Just plain wrong mate. I'd say, all things considered. It's about equal huh.

i know that the ring which gave you the hadoken move made ds2 the best of the trilogy for a lot of my friends.

I concur.

it's just u p g r a d e d really.

>try to pay mp3 on anything other than old school
>always interrupted by the fucking dumb last chance when I've got full health
fucking shit.

>Look at Skullgirls pros.
All I see is absolute fucking faggots playing the worst western weebshit game ever built.

i am zhoka.

>>>Dust An Elysian Tail was pretty fun and Fidget is cute

How do people NOT agree with this, her voice IS FINE.

Skyrim is a decent game
The Witcher 3 has good combat

Dante must die mode here.

Pc games are usually utter shit, even with mods, and having 60 fps doesn't make up for that. There is literally no reason to not own a console when it has better games and costs less

I actually liked RE6, not as great as the others
and maybe not a RE game, but I thought it was
hella fun.

Amen dude

Now THIS is some good fuckin' BAIT WOWZA

If you're talking about the Dragon Bone Fist it is actually my favorite weapon in the series if we leave out Bloodborne (which isn't a fair comparison since Bloodborne weapons are two in one and have larger movesets even in just one mode) but that doesn't override all the other issues I listed.

In fact that there are even more I didn't list like the issue with there being so much equipment that a lot of it is useless (ie it's just a reskin of another sword but does 5 less damage meaning there is no reason to use it) and there being so many bosses that many of them are shit. Dark Souls 2 focused on quantity over quality. There might be some really fun ideas as a result of there being so many but it also means a lot of time was wasted designing things that never get used. Of course, we can't forget Soul Memory. The single worst idea in a Souls game ever.

All that said DaSII is one of the best games of the last decade along with the other 4 games. It's just the worst out of all of them especially since anything new it adds is bad. The only thing it has over any other games in the series is the most of everything (weapons, spells, bosses, areas) but as I explained that's the reason the game fucke dup in so many places.

deal with it nerd

Pretty much every rhythm game with slide inputs requires a stick to do them accurately, and there's also dozens of franchises best played on unique peripherals so you'd be wrong about all rhythm games being best on m&kb even if that wasn't the case.

Most of them are also best played on a controller than a m&kb for the same reason 2D platformers are: D-pads just shit on keyboards for limited-variance but rapid and precision inputs, as do traditional face buttons on modern controllers.

A controller is also far better for 90% of fighting games than a m&kb is even if it's inferior to a fightstick. The only cases where this doesn't apply are in fightan vidya with auto-combos or simplified inputs, such as Skullgirls. I listed them twice by mistake.

ARPGs and JRPGs both fall under the "3D in a non-first person or isometric" clause, except for the oldest of them from the SNES and back.

More of a confession than an unpopular opinion, but Until Dawn was the only horror game that genuinely managed to scare me in a very long time, and it wasn't even a game really.

I think the focus on graphix in marketing and development is lowering the overall quality and scope of games while not really adding that much to the experience

So basically they've been getting worse since the 4th generation of consoles? Because that's when they started emphasizing graphics within marketing.

>most AAA games are shitty ports
>mods are usually buggy or unfinished
>early access shit
>too many shitty indie games
>good ones get ported to console
Fell for the PC gaming meme four years ago and recently went back to consoles instead of upgrading.

>I'm a freshly minted 18 year old piece of shit: the post

Chie's original voice was way better and sounded more natural than her current voice.

I don't mind if developers want to make better looking games, I just don't think that graphic quality should be prioritised over gameplay

>Lords of the Fallen and The Evil Within were >mediocre at worst
I didn't think these were unpopular.

I think Hiro, and the mods are doing a fine job to the best of their ability within reason.

I sincerely considering TWEWY hot garbage.
The art style isn't too bad and the first girl is cute, but the actual plot, the music, and especially the gameplay are fucking awful.
The concept of the gameplay is novel, but in action having to pay attention to two entirely different styles of combat actively at the same time is tiring and unfun (especially with that faggot in the second arc or whatever).
I also find the concept of the Ace Attorney games incredibly boring, though I admit I've never played them either.

I think that red steel 2 is one of ubisofts best games in terms of quality and fun, battle realms multiplayer is a lot more fun then WC3

>Pretty much every rhythm game with slide inputs requires a stick to do them accurately

So you've cherry picked a specific technical example of rhythm games as evidence to your point. You're not wrong, really, yet these games exist solely on the Wii and iOS platform. (At least from my quick google searches understanding) So of course they perform better. I can't concede your point because it's not like Rhythm Heaven is any better than Osu! Really, it's what you like at that point
>But hey jokes on me it's an o p i n i o n afterall hahahah lol

>Most of them are also best played on a controller than a m&kb for the same reason 2D platformers are: D-pads just shit on keyboards for limited-variance but rapid and precision inputs, as do traditional face buttons on modern controllers.

You're >>>>>Implying I have a shit keyboard, I really don't, I'd wager d0sh my inputs are just as fast, if not faster. Good fingers too, been at it a while.

>A controller is also far better for 90% of fighting games than a m&kb is even if it's inferior to a fightstick. The only cases where this doesn't apply are in fightan vidya with auto-combos or simplified inputs, such as Skullgirls. [REDACTED]
Nice.
Yeah, you're not really wrong here, they are better. Though I don't think there's anything simplified in Skullgirls input wise and I'm un-aware of any auto combos. But then again, I don't play fighting games much, I only use the old playcuck 4 for exclusives these days.

>ARPGs and JRPGs both fall under the "3D in a non-first person or isometric" clause, except for the oldest of them from the SNES and back.

So a third person roll playing game is better, because it is?
Is Mass Effect really better?
The Witcher?
Recent Bethesdcuck games?

I can't really see what you're trying to say with that last one.

Dante must die mode here.

I'm a PC gamer but i think PS4 is far better. What and posted is entirely correct.

I honestly believe Halo 3 to be one of the greatest games of all time. Halo Reach has the best campaign

Controller is better than using a keyboard for about 90% of games that are worth playing.

There is literally nothing wrong with 30 fps

Nintendo was right in DCMAing AM2R.

I dont really care about censorship since most of it is just weebie shit anyway

If I see a game that I want I will buy it. Moral stances on video game companies is unbelievably pants on head retarded.

Denuvo is a good thing for the industry and Video game piracy is bad. Not necessarily because it hurts companies but because you don't deserve their products for free.

Dragon's Dogma is a legitimately bad game with few redeeming qualities. Cred Forums only likes it because it isn't popular

Blacklist is the best SC yet

Shadow the Hedgehog is a perfectly good game and is greatly improved if you take the writing as self satire

Naughty Dog is hands down the best developer in the industry

Mass Effect 3 is an excellent game, and the best in the series, due to the refined combat and variety in mission locations

More racial, gender, and queer representation in vidya is objectively good.

Dwarf Fortress is mediocre.

MGS1 has aged like shit, Peace Walker is the peak of the series

DmC was a perfectly good DMC game

Bioshock Infinite was better than Bioshock 1

Bloodborne is not only the best game in the series, but one of the best ever made and overall a better game than Witcher 3

New Vegas is overrated trash compared to Fallout 4

Much of the perceived 'depth' of games pre-2005 is simply due to a lack of smoothness caused by poor programming ability and User Interface

All of the Half Life and STALKER are massively overrated, mediocre and barely worth playing. Bioshock and Halo are shooters that have much better gameplay than HL

Persona series is overrated.
Soundtrack and UI are good, but that's it.

Gameplay and story are bad. Also I feel like most people only like it because of waifus.

>More racial, gender, and queer representation in vidya is objectively good.
>I dont really care about censorship since most of it is just weebie shit anyway
I found tumblr!

Impressive.

I agree for the most part.

Gameplay is like a mixed bag, bosses are always fun, but regular encounters are boring as fuck because they all boil down to "find weakness" -> "1 MORE" -> "1 MORE" -> "1 MORE" -> "AIITE GUYS LOOKS LIKE ITS OUR CHANCE" -> "Shuffle Time".

All the challenge in the end is making sure your MP and HP are set for the boss or you have time to go back to the dungeon before time limit kicks in.

Dark Souls 2 has the best combat mechanics and weapons out of all the Souls games even BB. That being said the vanilla bosses are crap but the DLCs are good.

Super Mario 64 > Galaxy 2 > Galaxy > Sunshine > New SMB / 3D World /Land trash

Shadow of the Colossus was fucking boring. Go to colossus, solve its easy climbing "puzzle", stab it, repeat ad nauseum.

Undertale is boring and lackluster. Its only appeal lies in its quirky characters which is a hit or a miss.

Handhelds are inferior to home consoles. Any game on a handheld would be better on a proper console.

Nintendo's last hope in BOTW; if that game fails to live up to hype Nintendo is totally fucked.

I'll start caring about censorship in video games when it stops being primarily about an anime girl's nipples being slightly less prominent.

There's nothing wrong with stuff like Gone Home. They are just as much video games as anything else.

Actually, I liked it because it's just a bit more relaxing game to spend time on. I don't think it's great but there's a huge lack of vidya that is relaxing to play.
I can't be shooting it up for 8 hours a day. I'll get depressed because that's what stress does to your body eventually.

>Undertale is boring and lackluster. Its only appeal lies in its quirky characters which is a hit or a miss.
Okay. Okay. Now trying posting an UNPOPULAR opinion.

I found the Cred Forumstard!
There's four types of people on Cred Forums

>Cred Forumsacks
>People who don't care about board culture
>shitposters
>people who filter threads like this

What isn't in there is rampart sjws that will dox you. Or your name tied to the account that you post normally with. Most other threads are for shitposters and triggered people that can't bitch about black people on video game covers anywhere else. Because, rightfully or not, they'll immediately be banned or followed around by the forum's local sjw or mini-mod.

Cred Forums is safespace. You have the illusion that it isn't. But hivemind opinions dominate here which is why we need threads like these.

Case in point:
>le bait fish meme

This is another thing that I hate about Cred Forums. If you don't follow the hivemind you're "baiting" what the fuck? And you call yourselves not-reddit?

Your opinions aren't simply unpopular though.
They're just popular opinions flipped.
Like you went out of your way to disagree with Cred Forums on everything and nothing else.

>literally confirmed /tumblr/
Nice try

Someone's on their period today

They are sincere unpopular opinions that are unpopular on Cred Forums
"popular opinions that are flipped" describes 90% of the posts in this thread
I don't know why you were expecting anything else in an unpopular opinions thread.
>literally confirmed Cred Forums
You have to go back

Metroid Prime has aged like shit, the first one had good atmosphere but garbage gameplay and should not be remembered fondly

>NO U!
kek

This but also applied to every game that came out before 2002

Jak II sucks. It's a shit Ratchet & Clank, a shit GTA and a shit skateboarding game rolled into one.

>b-b-b-b-bait!
Fuck off Cred Forums

>This is another thing that I hate about Cred Forums. If you don't follow the hivemind you're "baiting"

People who say someone's baiting are generally shitposters. Sometimes not though.

What are some video games where I can partake in some old timey duels?

Cred Forums is always on their period
You guys live to be triggered by other people's opinions

>fuck off Cred Forums
lol. Get off of Cred Forums.

It's always shitposting.

>gets triggered
>I'm not triggered! All of you are triggered!
Funny joke.

You first Cred Forums

I honestly think Portable Ops' story is better than Peace Walker's and V's. It honestly develops the story a lot more.

>Cred Forums should leave Cred Forums
?

>NO U!

It's true though. Just look at how triggered you all got when someone posted their opinions ITT.

>No U
>No U!
Now hold up.

>Vanila Skyrim is better than vanilla Morrowind. The latter's progression system is mostly the same, ie you can only level up weapons by using them. Therefore it's basically the same game but with different levels of abstraction obscuring the basic functioning of the game.
>implying it is about gameplay

Midgar gave the game a grounded theme and plot. Leaving Midgar made you either start caring about your parties character development, or ??? Not to mention how swag the asethetic Midgar rocked was.

wrong.

私は8年の古いよ、これは何ですか?

Ninja Gaiden Black is overrated. Now don't get me wrong, I still love it and consider it one of the GOAT action games, but I feel like DMC3:SE, DMC4:SE, Bayonetta 1, and W101 are all better. That said, NG1/B easily deserves credit for being one of the first games in its genre after DMC1 and no doubt being influential in the action game genre. The reason I feel like it's overrated is because of some subtleties like the movement being a little finicky at times and the enemy targeting being a little wonky. I feel like the game is almost TOO responsive at times, since I've screwed myself over accidentally doing inputs that I didn't mean to do.

Timesplitters series is mediocre

Bayonetta 2 is subpar

Point n Click adventure is fundamentally a bad genre

Undertale is a nice, sincere game

Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Bloodborne and to some extent Dark Souls 3 are not only great, some of the best games of all time, and it's astounding considering they are all made by the same man who directed them all within a decade

Bioshock Infinite had a decent story and a good way to tell it, even if it borrowed it from Bioshock and SS2. Levine knows story telling in videogame better than most developers.

Romero is a good but overrated level designer. Monolith did a way better job with Blood, making the best FPS level design of all time.

There's not one thing Thief 1 does better than 2.

I'm glad PT was cancelled because as an IP for Silent Hill, it's garbage.

Resident Evil going into a more action-oriented direction makes sense for the lore. It was also never scary. RE7 is probably going to be trash because they're trying to take the series "back" into a direction it never had to begin with.

The Evil Within was a huge disappointment and I'm glad I didn't spend money on it (received it as a gift from an ex).

I think we have a winner. Fuck you you fucking "re4 was my first re" babby.

Does Joystick count as controller? Because then I agree.

>Bayonetta 2 is subpar
It's not subpar but the first one is definitely the better game. People just enjoy the second one more because it's definitely been casualized.

I can kind of hear how some people would find her a bit grating after a bit, but on the other hand I've seen various posters pretty much say "it's a female furry and thus irredeemable waifubait furshit" which is kind of ridiculous.
>"A ghost blacksmith? That's the WORST KIND of blacksmith!"
Fidget is honestly closer to daughterfu if anything.

>the best 2-lane moba map
...people play TT? Last I heard of it, ranked TT was just people agreeing to throw so everyone gets high elos for no skill.
I wish rito would put in a random-champ SR mode where all 10 players get Doombot versions of their abilities.

Pretty much. Worse comes to worst, people can just grind4days. It is pretty neat watching people do SL1 and other challenge runs, though.

>Ace attorney games incredibly boring
The actual mechanics are pretty dull, definitely. I like the games because of the characters and how ludicrous the game gets at times.
If you're just going off of "it's a game about being a defense attorney," though, that's... correct, but misleading; a lot of crazy stuff goes on, in or out of court:
>you have to cross-examine a parrot, to the confusion of everyone
>a prosecutor stabs someone with a sword
>you can claim someone was flying like a bird over the bridge
>the constant debate over ladders vs stepladders

古典的な4ちゃんだよ。

Oh and Metroidvanias are as disgracing as the LoS games. They are basically walking simulator with repetitive and easy combat. Aesthetics and music are the only good things about it.
It wishes it was Super Metroid but its level design doesn't even compare.

Stronghold HD is boring shit based too much around spamming economy buildings and no strategy.
Hopefully Crusader or 2 after it gets patched will be better.

PT was literally a PLAYABLE TRAILER you assclown

user people are calling your post bait because there are so many bizzare and contradictory statements in it. Rather than believe you're a shit dude with shit opinions, people would rather assume that you're spouting a bunch of nonsense with the intent of getting a rise out of as many people as possible.

Really, by calling bait these people are giving you the benefit of the doubt.

PT wasn't cancelled, it was the game that got released you retard. Silent Hills is what got cancelled. Also PT didn't represent the final product because teasers never do. That's why it was called "Playable Teaser" and not "Playable Trailer".

>>Mass Effect 2 is the worst game in the trilogy and half of the worst parts of 3 were the result of massive mistakes made with the writing and game design of 2
this is correct though

Also ignore this moron:

respost, seen this before. did you literally copy and paste it?

Regardless of me calling it PT or Silent Hills, the teaser is supposed to give you some sort of sense of the game. For something that is supposed to represent Silent Hill, it didn't do that--which you can argue that that's because they purposefully hid the fact that it's a Silent Hill game, but the subsequent trailer (trailers? been a while) left me unimpressed, too.

You sound mad

Justice for All despite its flaws is better than the first Ace Attorney game due to better pacing and the introduction of the magatama

There were no trailers. That was it. PT was more to present some concept the game was going to have, about multiple incarnations of the same reality. The reason why Silent Hill is different for everyone. It didn't represent anything in the actual game, besides at the very end where it shows
1)Fog
2)Street Lamps
3) Norman Reedus.

No wonder you were disappointed. It wasn't meant to show the game.

I imagine this opinion is pretty unpopular. Here's my shot at Dante Must Die Mode.

Banjo Tooie is "bigger is better" philosophy taken to maybe the farthest length I can immediately recall. I've hardly played a game that misunderstood what made the original so good to the extent Tooie does.

Kazooie's compact, but densely packed levels were fun to explore, but Tooie's levels are so massive, after the first four or five levels, you end up spending half your playtime just trying to find things to do, and the other half finally getting to do them.

Kazooie's level design lured you to points of interest with natural intrigue and curiosity, but I often spent an hour and a half looking for things to do in Tooie's absurdly big levels, because all your objectives are tucked away in the nooks of such a massive level. Tooie is a boring, unplayable mess from Grunty Industries onward.

>The first two Zelda games are better than the rest of the series combined.
>Super Metroid is overrated
Rare, and the games they've developed are mediocre in retrospect
>JRPGs can be good, granted their main focus isn't on cinematics/narrative
>Platformers are dying because it's the hardest genre to make a quality game for, there hasn't been a worthwhile one in over a decade

I think Half Life 1 is substantially better than Opposing Force

There was a trailer for Tokyo Game Show 2014 and it was terrible. Mind you, it was a concept trailer, but I didn't get a Silent Hill vibe from it or PT--which is my issue with Silent Hills.

For its own IP, I would've been fine, but as a Silent Hill game? Nah.

Lufia: Curse of the Sinistrals was a fun game.
Dante Must Die: Lufia 2 isn't very fun when replaying.

>3D Zelda games as a whole are worse than the 2D ones, and they're at their best when they break away from the formula used by the early 2D entries as much as possible. Wind Waker and Majora's Mask are the best of the 3D games accordingly.
I find that it's more a problem with how the games handle dungeons. Most 3D Zelda games treat dungeons as a series of simple puzzles to work your way through, so 90% of the time you are just facing simple block-sliding or use-the-item for progress. Most 2D Zelda games treat dungeons as mazes, so while getting from room to room is easy, figuring out the correct order you need to do to progress is the challenge.

>The 360 and OG Xbox are both underrated in terms of their exclusives
They tend to get ignored but both had some very good games in their libraries. It's generally not enough for me to consider picking up, but the good games are still there.

>The Wii has a better library than the N64 even with the wagglan gimmick
Wii had a ton of games, both good and bad, so more good games shouldn't be surprising. The n64 actually had very few good games, especially when you consider "good in general" rather than just "good for a n64 title".

Metroid Other M had a bunch of good ideas, but almost universally terrible job at implementing any of them.

>Games do not always have to be focused on gameplay.
True, but not for all games. Games focused on gameplay should focus on the good gameplay. Games not focused on gameplay should focus on what they are doing, to make sure it is good. It's when a game tries to half-ass it in both directions that you end up with something terrible.

N64-era collect-a-thon 3d "platformers", like Banjo-Kazooie and DK64 are all boring garbage where the core gameplay mechanic is padded gameplay.

The only people that could possibly like that shit are nostalgia goggles wearing faggots who played them as their first game.

I don't think this is an unpopular opinion, although personally I'd like Opposing Force more if it was longer and involved more interactions with the main Half-Life plot.

I kind of enjoyed Skyrim

What is so bizzare and contradictory about any of those statements? All I see are shitty manbabies with shit opinions crying Bait! and posting Cred Forums memes because they can't accept sincere opinions that don't follow the hivemind.

I haven't seen it before but even if it is, this isn't the first thread for unpopular opinions on Cred Forums, and just because it's pasted doesn't make it any less of a valid opinion. Many of the opinions I've posted ITT are copied from previous unpopular opinions threads.

There's Samurai Kirby in Super Star. It's a different kind of duel, but a duel nonetheless.

if you want the responsiveness of a controller then you'd naturally want 60fps from a game

you decry taking moral stances and then proceed to take several moral stances

you present the notion that only gameplay matters in games, while simultaneously espousing that video games should match your politics

in short it's a huge list of contradictory beliefs that seem hand crafted to upset people here. If this is truly how you feel, you're a huge hypocrite who doesn't have any business sharing his opinions with other people.

Dante must die mode is 2 ez gg
The division is the best game of 2016

Twilight princess is my favourite zelda, (haven't played wind waker yet)

Banjo Kazooie is overrated, spyros a better platformer

60fps is a meme invented by PCfats to justify buying $1000 graphics cards shilled by nvidia. Difference is HARDLY noticeable especially with motion blur. There is no fucking reason to get it for PC because 30 fps runs just as good. None of this has anything to do with the fact that controller is superior to keyboard.

I decried not buying good games because of your autistic hate bandwagon against EA and Ubisoft. Not buying a game because there's a black person on the cover is just as if not even more retarded than not buying games with white protags. Does mean that more representation of women and minorities in games isn't objectively good. Nothing contradictory here.

Not once did I ever say that politics matters more than gameplay, if anything video games should not match Cred Forums's politics. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Nothing I said was hypocritical at all. Who the fuck are you to tell me I shouldn't express my opinion in an unpopular opinions thread? Don't assume shit Just because you're upset that I don't agree with your hiveminded opinions

you post the smod meme in every upopular opinion thread dont you have something better to do

It depends on the thread. I see a lot of people saying OpFor is better and I've been shit at for claiming otherwise.

Honestly it's just a matter of level design and environment puzzles/navigation to me. Half life 1 felt more clever in those areas.

Although I do love OpFor, I look forward to it every time I replay Half Life

DMD mode coming through
The Witcher serise all have horrible gameplay and i can't fathom how anyone can compare it to souls serise in the slightest when the controls are so unresponsive. (good characters and naritive tho)

Overwatch is for babies and i hate everyone that plays it becuase it's watered down shit that appeals to the lowest common denominator. Just like LoL, Dota or HS it is stupidly easy to pick up with very simple mechanics that take no time to master and give you a false sense of achievement win you win a game.

Smash isn't a fighting game but is still way more fun to watch/play then any Netherrealm game made in the last 6 years.

The FGC is the best gaming community

Cred Forums has never lied to me about videogames EXCEPT for Overwatch

Mass Effect series is glorified corridor TPS with mkay story and RPG elements. Not an RPG.

Legend of Zelda series is highly overrated. Just as pretty much anything coming from Nintedo.

GTA series is going to shit since SA. Character progression, more realism, more mature story. Last fun arcade-y mob satire GTA was Vice City (or VCS+LCS), rest is just going further and further into cinematic realism asshole.

Last case of Trials and Tribulations is worst of all 3 games. Before, it was weird quirk of main cahracters to accept spiritual crap and believe in it. After, it has become legal and everyone supposed to believe in it. What. The. FUCK.

Oblivion is not a good game. Fallout 3 often got called "Oblivion with guns" in order to mock it, but I think FO3 is the better game of the two for the sole reason that it switched the focus away from the godawful melee combat.

>60fps is a meme
>30fps runs just as good

Do you even know what 60fps is

DeSu2 Record Breaker is vastly superior to Overclocked.

The human eye can't see more than 25fps.

Do you also regurgitate your food and expect others to eat it?

Its unpopular OPINION time, moron. Standing blatantly false and provably wrong bullshit is not an opinion.

Now it might be your opinion that smooth, better gameplay that higher FPS brings is not worth the price of a PC, but that doesn't change the fact that higher FPS does give you those things.

Well 60 fps looks ever so slightly smoother but I'm with you on the FPS issue, I've never felt that a game was less fun just because it was less than 60 FPS.

"Comfy" is a code word for boring games used by people with an awful low frustration tolerance.

I liked Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2 is my favorite game in the series. Modern Bioware is my favorite Bioware and their only game I didn't love is Inquisition mostly for the open world filler. Every other modern game they have I adored.

Valve is fucking garbage and is doing more damage to PC gaming than Microsoft.

In other news, an A press is an A press.

You can throw whatever statements you want at me, but the point is that I'm able to tell what the difference is between 30 frames of animation and 60 frames.

Fucking this. Witcher 3 is a good game hands down, but the first two were such dog shit smeared on the sidewalk. (Don't even give me that "They were good for their time" meme either. Witcher 1 came out the same year as Assassins Creed 1 and was nothing more than "click when the sword is on fire"). Then people act like The Witcher 3 is the fucking best when 99% of the shills didn't even play the other two. One good game, a good series does not make.

>One good game, a good series does not make.

M-master Yoda?

Reviews mean nothing

I really like Undertale and games like it
I think mainstream games are mostly popular for a good reason
I enjoy the idea of crossplay with my phone and PC/consoles
I think idort is the way to go
The rise in gender and race representation in games and media is a great thing and I'm always happy to support it

Your point is?

I don't know man.
I finde DMC4 on DMD pretty comfy

RDR is among the most overrated games of all times. Like I wouldn't post the obvious "normie shit" like Skyrim, Assassin's Creed and whatever, but RDR unlike those actually gets an insane amount of praise even on Cred Forums
Well guess what, it sucks fucking dick
Undead nightmare was pretty cool though, I must admit

Who was in the wrong here?

>The latter's progression system is mostly the same, ie you can only level up weapons by using them. Therefore it's basically the same game

So is Daggerfall's progression system. Try playing that, come back and we talk about it being "basically the same game"

It depends on the game. For your average 3rd person over the shoulder shooter it shouldn't be a big deal, but if the game requires frame perfect dodging and countering 60fps is an absolute necessity

Well I'd say that's fair.

First of all, you don't understand the difference between 30 and 60 fps which tells me that you're woefully under educated on the subject to have anything relevant to say. That leaves me with the impression that you speak about things you don't really understand, and that means I'm more likely to question the validity of your opinions elsewhere.

the concept of a good game is wholly subjective and there's nothing autistic about sticking to your principles and abstaining from games made by developers or publishers you dislike. You can certainly question if those principles are coming from a just and moral frame of mind, but that doesn't really have anything to do with autism. As for representation, it's neither objectively good nor is it objectively bad. It's a neutral value that can be implemented well (in which case it enhances the experience) and implemented poorly or even maliciously (adding gay characters as a shield against legitimate criticism)

censoring content more often than not has an impact on gameplay- either via the visuals having less than the desired impact, the story losing some hidden layers, or whole sections of the games being cut out in favor of something less potentially controversial. You claim that politics shouldn't matter, but you support (or refuse to speak out against) censorship of things you personally dislike. Do you not see the inherent hypocrisy in that worldview?

The thread was designed to express SINCERE opinions. I don't believe that you've held a sincere opinion in your entire life.

Shit taste post right here folks

yeah, I'd think most people would agree with you

except for the people making DmC apparently

>Max Payne 1>Max Payne 3>Max Payne 2
>Persona is SHIT

90% of what v calls sjw has nothing to do with it

>you don't understand the difference between 30 and 60 fps which tells me that you're woefully under educated on the subject to have anything relevant to say

Ad hominem
Not an argument

You aren't missing much with WW. It's objectively inferior to TP.

It's okay to believe an unchallenging game has fun gameplay, and upping the difficulty of said game won't necessarily improve the gameplay.

Dante Must Die: The only reason we have a graphic-heavy games is because of consoles. When PC players are asked what are the greatest PC games, they always name games that could run on my geforce 4 440MX from 2003, not HW heavy titles requiring even the power of current consoles. Meanwhile consoles always contribute to the advancement with high budget games and require graphics to be constantly updated. Facebook games and Dota 2 doesn't require, nor has very high graphic fidelity.

>You claim that politics shouldn't matter, but you refuse to speak out against censorship of things you personally dislike.

>Do you not see the inherent hypocrisy in that worldview?

Not him but how is that hypocrisy? I don't care for your brand of politics where having black protagonists in Mafia and Battlefield equate to white genocide nor do I care to speak out against perfectly valid localization changes, removing your precious Anime titty from games does not affect the core gameplay.

These are unpopular mostly on this board but they're my honest opinions
Dark Souls 1 is the best in the series
The Souls series has some of the best in depth lore of any fantasy role playing game to come out of Japan
SMT is the best JRPG series
I think 95% of games pre 2000 are shit and only nostalgiafags praise them
Final fantasy 7 sucked horribly, bad characters, bad gameplay, bad story

I enjoy video games.

DMD: I legit don't like playing games on my computer.

yes it does

you present the notion that only gameplay matters in games, while simultaneously espousing that video games should match your politics

, you're a huge hypocrite who doesn't have any business sharing his opinions with other people.

how is someone demonstrating their lack of understanding an ad hominem?

t. triggered teenager from Cred Forums

I love the Borderlands series and I hope Gearbox survives their stillborn failure to make another one

Dark Souls 2 is one of my favorite games of all time and beats all souls games. Also, I don't like Bloodborne at ALL and have no idea why

>Persona 4: Golden is one of my favorite games of all time
>MGS4 was the best in the series
>GTA IV was the best in the series
>Max Payne 3 was significantly better than Max Payne 2

Dark Souls 2 is a great game and has some of the best mechanics in the series (and some really fucking bad ones). I love all the Souls games despite the fact that each one of them has flaws (DS2 has stuff like shitty world connectivity, broken orbs, a bad implementation of a decent idea that is soul level etc.). There is absolutely nothing wrong with adaptability though. I think the people that cry about iframes being tied to a stat have some form of retardation, its neither good nor bad, it just is. You can beat the first boss, level up adp to 20 and have iframes comparable to the other games and the fact that you level up faster in DS2 pretty much nullifies the fact that you just "wasted"

There's not a single game that requires a high-end GPS on consoles or PC.
PC gaming has the benefit of games giving you options to adjust a game's graphical fidelity to your hardware.
Even with an absolute potato you can just set the graphics quality to very low and play with 640 x 480 resolution.

dude that motion blur isnt good for you, apparently

*GPU

And? I just think that graphic-heavy games exist thanks to consoles, and that the PC players statement about consoles holding the fidelity back not true.

You can't set the fidelity of console games, that's the point of consoles. I get your point, but it's a complete miss to my statement.

DMD'd right here.
>The Last of Us is one of the best games of the last generation.
>Bethesda games are not good as a rule.
>I have never enjoyed a Final Fantasy game.
>Fire Emblem has always been weeb as fuck.
>Easy games can be fun.
>There has not been a single good Assassin's Creed game.
>Undertale was a great and original game, with pretty good execution.
>Dragon Age Inquisition is just okay. It has quite a few good points, but they're dwarfed by the sheer amount of wasted potential the game has.
>Sidenote, Dorian and Vivienne are the two best companions in that game.
>League of Legends isn't very fun to play, but is interesting to watch.
>Ace Attorney games are visual novels.
>Victoria 2>Darkest Hour>EU3=HOI3=HOI2>EU4>HOI4
>Bioware RPGs are mostly mediocre. This includes Baldur's Gate, KotOR, Neverwinter Nights, Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 2.

the older battlefronts are pretty shitty without mods, and even then theyre just decent

the new battlefront with all the new content added in is vastly superior

It's a retardo statement that has no basis in reality. There's no reason to believe that graphics heavy games exist because of consoles and not PC. It's disingenuous to use Facebook games as representative of PC graphics as if the most popular console games are graphics heavy when the fact is they're not.

This is bait.

I was agreeing with you up until you said MOBA shit is fun to watch
You can't be serious, especially when people will drag out a battle up to 70 minutes just to make the other team quit out of frustration.

Now I dunno about that new battlefront comment but I've never thought the battlefront games were really anything special

Best PC games
WoW
LoL
Dota 2
Minecraft
more indies
Shill Citizen (unreleased, only one with fidelity, becomes obsolete at the time of release if ever)

I am serious user. Successful PC games are HW easy multiplayer free to play games, while consoles bring AAA single players with beautiful graphics that PCs can make better through sheer power and mods. I remember reading a Steam community statistics just a year back and most of the playerbase had considerably worse specs than PS4, yet PC master race and human eye can see only 23 fús meme was going strong.

23 fps*

Season 3 was pretty garbage for that reason, but last season and this season, competitive has been in a pretty decent place. Matches finish decently quickly, and decisive fights happen. S2 was the high point.

>Best PC games are all monastery mmos and indie

OK you're clearly baiting. Good job I guess.

I am not. Prove me wrong.

>post a very silly bait level claim that goes against reality
>Why don't people take me seriously? Prove me wrong and take my bait!
See

These threads are trash.

Funny because the main thing everyone liked about Silent Hills and PT was that it WASN'T another half-assed attempt to cram "Silent Hill mechanics" into an otherwise irrelevant game like most post-SH4 entries had been.
Most people wanted a complete reimagining of the franchise.

>You're wrong because I said so

Best =/= most popular.

>I'm right until you prove me wrong
Bait

How about this.

>If you're having fun, you're not playing the game wrong. *
>*unless you're griefing or something to prevent others from having fun

You can say "hey, Hitman isn't designed as a shooter, try playing it sneaky" but if they're having fun gunning everyone down then they aren't "wrong". Just missing some of the content.

I made a statement that is true, backed up by actual statistics. The burden of proof is on you. Calling me a bait is a very poor attempt.

But user-kun, I'm 23.

>I made a statement that is true, backed up by actual statistics
You did neither of these

You don't know what burden of proof is. Your shitty unsubstantiated opinions and generalizations do not get the benefit of the doubt until proven false. Calling it bait is accurate, you've made a poor attempt at getting anyone to take you seriously.

GTA5 is dogshit multiplayer faggotry, MGSV is better than PW, and BB is nothing compared to based Miller.

Everyone who says MGSV is shit is a giant pussy who overhyped it and is a faggot who loves BB too much. Miller is the best character and only reason to play the literal dogshit PW.

Skullface is a good Bond villain and it's a shame MGSV has cut content but I love the game regardless. I'd kill for chapter 3 and a MG1&2 remake in Fox engine. I would love to see a CQC fight ala Boss in MGS3 in Fox for MG1 against Venom.

>backed up by actual statistics.
This bait is a very poor attempt.

But user, you can check the steam statistics yourself.

Also successful PC games are indies and multiplayer free to play low fidelity titles. Other games that can be set with higher quality graphics and mods are console ports that wouldn't exist otherwise.

umad

Best Console games
CoD
Madden
Fifa
Minecraft
more ported indies
TLOU (only one with fidelity, already obsolete at the time of release)

Successful console games are mutlilpatform multiplayer games that do not push graphics at all, developed on PC. Your supposed "AAA single players with beautiful graphics" are practically a niche on consoles. You might actually want to learn how to read Steam hardware surveys before off handedly mentioning them. The percentage of steam users with better specs than ps4 owners still outnumber the amount of PS4 owners in total.

Borean Tundra > Howling Fjord

>I made a statement that is true, backed up by actual statistics
>no you didn't
>But you can look up the statistics I didn't post yourself!

Don't expect anyone to take you seriously when all you do is shitpost.

Those "console ports" wouldn't exist at all even on consoles without PC.

u dumb

>The percentage of steam users with better specs than ps4 owners still outnumber the amount of PS4 owners in total.
Maybe today.

Also the list of games is the best you can get on PC in terms of graphics, you just up the settings of ports. Stay mad.

You're entitled to your opinion.

That said...

>FTL
>Red Orchestra (2)
>Civilisation IV
>Crusader Kings (2)
>Hotline Miami
>X-Com UFO Defence
>Total Annihilation
>Dota/Lol/HotS/HoN
>WoW/Everquest/LotRO/Ultima Online
>Tribes 2
>SUPER HOT
>Terraria

A decent PC can run all of those games for the same or less than a modern console. Even if you think console is better for AAA the devs think so as well a shitty PC is worth keeping around for the indie stuff.

Nintendo really needs to drop out of the handheld shit, I am really hoping that the NX kills off both the Wii U and 3DS. Nintendo is fucking retarded at being organized, they can't maintain both console and handheld libraries there's a always a fucking drought. Just stick with NX and put all efforts into one machine

More developers need to adopt the structure that Retro Studio's are doing, I don't know who the fuck is on top in that company, but they are constantly changing guys and have strict openings, brand new people handled tropical freeze better than the DKCR and leftover Prime devs did

Ace Attorney and danganrompa are one of the few series I don't mind rehashing to death, I don't care how retarded it becomes either I just love murder mysteries and not stupid shit like LA Noir

Miyamoto gets too much shit over what he did with Paper Mario, don't get me wrong, I agree with the majority and think making a sequel in color splash was fucking retarded. But Miyamoto came from seeing Super Paper Mario and it's absolutely retarded character designs so I can see why he told them to stick with Mario characters

Sonic was never good

Neither was Star Fox

Atlus is overrated, if I wanted Weaboo RPG's I'll go to square

All of them are shit.

If you consider the volume and scope, Arcanum was surprisingly coherent and functional game. More so than FO2.

Nah, your taste is shit kid.

>he

Did you just assume my gender???

If a game was only good "for its time" and is shit by today's standards, it is not a good game. Almost every "classic, revolutionary, legendary" title is fucking dogshit that has been long surpassed by far better, more polished modern games. There are games that are old but still look good or play just fine. Those are the true gems.

Oh don't worry mobile shit will finish them and I agree on Sonic. Ultra Despair Girls was dogshit and you should feel shame.

Mobile games can be really good.
P2W shit doesn't bother me at all.

Only mobile I played worth a fuck was Rick and Morty but it's just pokemon and P2W is always garbage much like dlc.

>EA
>Konami

Only reason Survive is being made and packaged as Metal Gear is because they need brand recognition.

I enjoy this generation of video games the most, especially Nintendo's titles.

are you genderfluid pan rastafarian lesbian goddess gay male astronaut?

Metroid is the only series worth mentioning that's ever come out of nintendo.

I enjoy linear story games with a focus on high impact set pieces, because I enjoy tightly contained stories.

Open world games have become a blight on video games that gave way to the tumor that is survival procedural games. It's a good idea that has been stretched to its limit to the point of pure mediocrity and sacrifices gameplay for size. Literally quantity over quality.

The ps1 era and it's coinciding platforms were the golden era of video games.

FF8 was a good game when I was 15, but I won't play it again out of fear of nostalgia goggles.

Musuo games are utter trash, but are some how the comfiest games on the market.

Battleborn is over all a garbage game, but doesn't deserve the amount of hatred it gets and I genuinely think it would have had a better chance if it wasn't right up Overwatch's ass from the get go.

Comp ruined Overwatch.

I think she is trying to tip her fedora on the (reverse) principle of tits or gtfo meme

games were not better back then than they are now

you miss the games you played as a kid because you miss being a kid
it wouldn't have mattered what you played

>I enjoy linear story games with a focus on high impact set pieces, because I enjoy tightly contained stories.

>Open world games have become a blight on video games that gave way to the tumor that is survival procedural games. It's a good idea that has been stretched to its limit to the point of pure mediocrity and sacrifices gameplay for size. Literally quantity over quality.

I can agree on this and we need more original ips not sequel shit and remakes. I hope movies crash because of all the capeshit remake sequel faggotry. I got sick of it after GoTG and Winter Soldier but I'm strangely hype for GoTG2.

>Metroid is the only series worth mentioning that's ever come out of nintendo.

This is wrong though imo because Metroid has effectively ended up as Mega Man has.

>This is wrong though imo because Metroid has effectively ended up as Mega Man has.
As unfortunate as that is true, I meant the quality of the series as a video game.
I hate everything else Nintendo is widely known for.
Zelda is literally the most basic fandom """""""video game culture"""""" has.

But he did just that

Competitive gaming is pure cancer that takes the fun out of gaming and turns it into a chore, or even worse, a job. Not only that, it stunts the growth of video games by forcing devs to stick to the cookie cutter mold of "good" competitive games in order to hold a candle in this meme market

Witcher 3 won GOTY only because everything else that year was pure shit, it had no competition

Overwatch is TF2: Waifu Edition

But I never played something like Star Control 2 or System Shock 2 as a kid and I consider them masterpieces.

>mobile shit will finish them off

The 3DS has been standing for 6 years already

If the peak of mobile didn't do shit then, it's not going to do shit now

Ultra Despair girls isn't a main series game

>If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball

That's how I equate Witcher because all you do is dodge, duck, dip and occasionally attack. I want to enjoy the games but combat is actual dogshit and I'm tempted just to put it on easy just to enjoy the story.

It's because GoTG is actually a space opera disguised as capeshit

I really hope 2 isn't' a dud

3DS isn't pure mobile, wait and see how they fuck Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing with pay2win shit and unlocks.

I liked it more than TFA honestly. Kylo,senile Han,and based Chewie are the only reasons to like rehash shit.

PC early access and indie scams like dayz are a running joke among console apologists yet those games often happen to have times better online experience than any single console game despite being half-assed, unfinished, rushed, cash grabbing products and there's no game game that matches or comes close to that experience

>meme image full of words words words words words

Yeah, nah. Every remake is way worse than its predecessors.
Simcity series used to be good till Simcity 5
Anno series used to be good till Anno 2070
Sims used to be good until Sims 4
Rollercoaster tycoon used to be good until RCT World
Fallout used to be good until Fallout 4

and so on

None of the new games have the same complexity and gameplay value of the old generation, they are build for people who need hand-holding through the simplest shit.

Despite being the first console I ever owned, I have to say the SNES games library has aged INCREDIBLY poorly for the most part.

>talking shit about DKC2
u best not be

Hey retard, OP said unpopular opinions not facts.

I don't believe anyone ever praised Divinity:OS for its writing.

Killzone 2's slugish delayed controlls were fine. Forza or GT also doesn't handle like Mario Kart, so why should every fps handle like Qauke especailly with a controller?

Is that a furby? Those things were annoying as fuck and the new ones have nothing interesting about them, the googly eyes made them charming but now it's a little screen.

I think that the trend of streamlining controls can actually cause problems.

I've been playing Dead by Daylight and killers being able to whip around and change direction in the blink of an eye really detracts from the "serial killer" experience not that that game has anything else good about it .

Meanwhile, Fractured Space has capital ships control like boat-struck manatees and it actually adds to the experience.

People like to pretend that Dante is a cool character. He's not. He looks like something straight out of an early 00s numetal music video and acts like what 15 year old boys think is cool.

Games are still fun though.

I fucking love FreeFlow (Batman: Arkham) combat system. It's like the best thing ever invented to me. Feel free to ask me for an explanation or call me a retard. The predator aspect of said games (except for the gargoyle system) is pretty sweet too. My favorite videogames of all time.

Resident Evil 3: Nemesis is the best of the series.

Resident Evil is scarier than Silent Hill, but both series are great, my old favorite vidya series before Arkham.

I really hate the west vs east war in Cred Forums. Both sides of the globe make good and bad games.

Everything related to RPG games (upgrades by XP points, turn based combat) is trash.

Except for jewish practices like season passes, SJW and all that jazz, video games are better than before. Maybe because PS3/X360 gave me muh Bamham.

You aren't half bad apart from the rpg combat bit, rpg mechanics should stay in rpgs imo.

>I clearly wasn't supposed to trigger yet
>was supposed to trigger

Ya the story is pretty fucking bad.

The combat is fantastic and the freedom you have is insane. I went through the game dropping chests on people. Killed the last boss in three hits on the hardest difficulty doing that. Also, coop makes the game much more enjoyable. Overall, very good game I think.

With Chris Avellone working on the second one I have very high hopes.

>fallout 3/NV better role playing GAME
>Fallout 4 better GAME
Fallout is a roleplaying series so fallout 4 is a shit fallout

The Division is a good game constrained by poor balance and lack of content. The story also had the potential to be interesting, but was limited by making the character a blank slate and relegating the major speaking roles to your bosses at base.

>Sonic was never good

Fuck off IGN. Sonic 3(&K) is a factually good game.

The Halo series is fantastic

Halo CE is the worst halo game, tied with 4

>or locked you out of opportunities.

Because fuck consequences?

I disagree, there's some games with aged gameplay that have still held up because they have something unique or special about them. Metroid Prime's atmosphere and gameplay have both been so far outstripped leaving nothing of interest other than "oh I remember how cool that was back then". It'd be like people praising Killzone 2 that looked pretty incredible for a console game of its time, but has nothing of value to maintain any kind of relevancy

>Bioshock is the worst FPS
>UT2004 was the only good Unreal game
>Every ARPG is complete shit besides Diablo 2
>Alpha Centauri is a terrible game
>Might and Magic 3 is the best in the series, and Might and Magic 6 is far worse than 3-5
>MMORPGs are always trash
>Deus Ex 1 was only good because of the multiplayer

Lack of balance and lack of content disqualify it from being a good game. Having played it on release and hitting the level cap in the campaign and Dark zone, The Division's core design is heavily flawed.

Modern video games are better than modern books, tv shows, movies...etc. Maybe not anime. alot of media has regressed but video games have advanced alot father due to having so many angles of approach.

>>Alpha Centauri is a terrible game
This isn't even an opinion, you're just shit.

Capeshit and Walking Dead shit isn't hard to beat. All the good shows like Hell on Wheels and Sopranos has long been over.

I do not like playing games on PC. at all, Even at perfect frame rate, even on some super computer, even with a controller with no weirdness. Something about playing on PC and not consoles ruins it for me, I played a few games on PC and had fun, but if I have an option to play on console it makes the PC experience worthless to me.

I also don't like multiplayer, Again its something where, I have enjoyed some multiplayer in the past, but now a days I don't even want to hear that a game HAS multiplayer because I know it means less was done for the single player.

I think the Sims 3 is fucking amazing

have you actually watched some of the good TV nowadays? There's a lot of incredible writing and acting going on, nothing anywhere near that quality is happening in video games. Obviously we play video games for different reasons than we watch TV, but saying that TV has "regressed" is fucking blind

Batman: Arkham Knight was a decent game.

Most JRPG's have simply awful and annoying characters

I enjoy games like Dream, Ether One, MIND: Path to Thalamus etc.

>Maybe not anime

Thanks for that laugh m8.

>fight me irl faget

I don't think Gone Home is that bad. It's fine for what it's trying to do, which is tell a story.

Duke Nukem Forever was okay.

I don't regret backing Mighty No 9. It had its problems and it wasn't particularly great, but I had fun and that's all I could have asked for. I DO regret backing Wasteland 2, not that its bad or anything, but it's not a genre that I'm fond of.

Don't bother telling me I don't belong on Cred Forums. I'm going to keep posting here :^)

Your brain is hosed.

Arkham knight was a great game

I don't see people's complaints about the car either, it was great

That being said the fight with deathstroke was garbage I didn't need another reskin of Arkham knight's tank fight

Also Arkham knight himself was garbage plot twist but the game didn't focus too much on him, Joker and scarecrow were great

metal gear is shit, all of them, except 4 and 5 which are okay at best

You have shit opinions, of course you belong on Cred Forums.

>I also don't like multiplayer, Again its something where, I have enjoyed some multiplayer in the past, but now a days I don't even want to hear that a game HAS multiplayer because I know it means less was done for the single player.

Fucking truth look what happened to GTA5,multiplayer is a tumor and ruined great series.

>EA Battlefront

Sorry, probably should have worded that better. I enjoy the core gameplay loop and feel that it had the potential to be a great game had balance and content not been an issue.

>Witcher 2 is my fave Witcher. I loved 3, couldn't get into 1 at all.
>Mass Effect 1 is a near perfect sci-fi RPG, but Bioware completely fucked it with the direction they took it with 2. 2 was decent as a game itself, but not as ME game. 3 was utter trash from start to end.
>Shivering Isles is the best TES game.
>Battlefield series got shit after Bad Company 1. BC2 was good but didn't change much up from BC1.
>The Uncharted games are pretty good and U4 was stellar. TLOU is also good, even if they're only movies I found them pretty damn fun.
>Bloodborne shits all over Dark Souls series. DaS1 + 3 are very good, DaS2 is meh, but BB took things to a whole new level.
>EYE: Divine Cybermancy is better than all the Deus Ex games. I love em but EYE steals the show.
>Shogun 2 is my favourite Total War game.
>GTAIV > GTAV. But Vice City is best GTA.
>Shadow of the Colossus is literally the best game ever and no game will ever touch it's ranking. It's been so long since it's release and no game has ever came close to achieving what it did, nothing and I don't see that changing.
>PES and/or FIFA are fun to play when I'm bored and have fuck all to do.

I prefer unbalaced fighters and aymmetrical multiplayer to the ultra super serious nofunallowed.jpg perfect balance that is made for faggots who play fucking VIDEO GAMES for their sense of competition. Then no matter how hard developers try to balance the shitstained tryhard high schoolers still bitch

Games should be fun.

Platformers are the worst genre. I can't wait for Yoka Meemee to come out so people can see and understand why the genre went away in the first place.

Also, the Nintendo 64 is the worst console of it's generation.

I played Solatorobo for the story, and I enjoyed it. Both stories.
I played Tail Concerto because I wanted to know the origins of those random characters from Solatorobo. I ended up playing a great Playstation game instead.
I played The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, and enjoyed it (mostly). I would not say it has great replayability, but it was good the first time around.
I played Fallout 3 and fully enjoyed it, despite the ridiculous story and asspulls.
I play a Human Male in World of Warcraft, and I do not regret my choice.
I have played many F2P/P2W MMOs that went extinct, including Glory Destiny and Rusty Hearts, and fully enjoyed them. The Rusty Hearts devs actually gave me free stuff from the store on multiple occasions. They were fucking top tier bros when they were in business.
I played and enjoyed Shovel Knight, though I do not believe it deserved all the crazy hype and cameos. SK was a cool dude, but he had almost no personality and no unique design. Shovels as weapons were shown in other games, and even in movies and books, and were more interesting then.
On the topic of Shovel Knight, I felt Plague Knight wasn't that fun. His form of gameplay was too wild and crazy, not fitting in the retro theme of the game that Shovel Knight fit perfectly.
Resident Evil Revelations was a good concept, but it lacked horror and had no right being called Resident Evil.
Witcher 3 is too god damned long. I like a long story, but ten 500k word essays' worth is too much. Just give me a book already.
I have not played any console older than the NES, and deeply regret it when I had the chance.
I played and enjoyed Mario's Time Machine on the SNES as a kid, and even recently on an emulator. No, seriously. I actually got some things wrong when I recently played it, and felt like a fucking moron. I never looked anything up, though.

>Mass Effect 2 is the worst game in the trilogy and half of the worst parts of 3 were the result of massive mistakes made with the writing and game design of 2
Fucking agree. The only people who disagree are plebs who started with ME2.

The same thing applies to Dead Space. DS2 started all the shit

All the Arkham games are fantastic. Even Origins.
The best one is still Asylum, though.

"Walking sims" like Dear Esther and Gone Home should not be derided for lack of gameplay as interactivity is itself an element in their stories they try to tell that is not achievable in any other medium. However, they should also should not be touted as the second coming of Video Game Jesus, as their format is not exactly inventive

Castlevania 64, legacy of darkness, and lament of innocence are actually good games and people only hate on them because "muh 2D"

>Mass Effect 1 is a near perfect sci-fi RPG, but Bioware completely fucked it with the direction they took it with 2. 2 was decent as a game itself, but not as ME game. 3 was utter trash from start to end.

>Battlefield series got shit after Bad Company 1. BC2 was good but didn't change much up from BC1.

>GTAIV > GTAV. But Vice City is best GTA

My fucking NIGGA.

Isometric point & click RPGs are better than 3D RPGs with flashy combat. Pillars of Eternity was still pretty mediocre though.

God this, asymmetric multiplayer has always been my favourite thing. Was great in halo wars

I love the idea of old isometric RPGs like Baldurs Gate and Arcanum, but I can't play them because of how slow and choppy they are.

Traditional games site coverage like IGN, Gamespot and Giant Bomb are more trustworthy than YouTubers.

The new Star Wars Battlefront is better than the old ones because of the graphics.

When a game is ported to PC it loses its value. It's like letting poor people in to a fancy buffet.

I'm an idort, but PlayStation is CLEARLY always the best platform, now that SEGA aren't around anymore.

what's funny is that the majority those opinions were espoused in other posts throughout the thread, yet none of you called them bait. I wonder why that is?

Hey look more bait.

Devil May Cry series isn't that good, fags love le ebin moves while shooting and 3 point landings
GTA2 is more polished than the first game and that's the reason it's worse than the first title, it lacks that aura of minor thug among true sickfucks in a dirty city. Also the driving controls are too on rails, you could do nice manuevers in GTA1

I can't be assed to read every single post in the thread

giant walls of text are eye catching, which is another reason why that post was bait

So if those opinions were espoused in separate posts, but were exactly the same opinions otherwise, they wouldn't be bait?

it would depend on if they were internally consistent or not I suppose

Those opinions aren't inconsistent though, even when combined into one post

It seems like you're confusing consistancy for style, when really you should be focusing on content.