Dragon Quest VII Thread

>the arena immediately after getting your abilities back
what the fuck

I just got to the town with the giant clock how much farther until I can get access to the carpet and get the next party member

Were is the digsite again? I've visited all the islands in the present can seem to remeber where it was

sail upwards from l'arca

>just discovered that Mervyn and Aishe have party chat for all the places before you got them
Welp time to revisit every single island.

>quicksave
>no option to resume
Huh?

I like that in reality Professor Digby was just letting anyone see his shit while the DQ equivalent of a jew was selling tickets to see it without telling him.

And then he takes it up entirely after he leaves.

So what am I supposed to do after Cayenne gets kicked out of the manor (I already did the stuff with Carraway visiting a grave)? Am I done here?

I'm getting wrekt by Setesh in the desert anyone have tips?

>666
anyway I don't understand poker, should I just do the coin machine?
I am in the Buccanham present.

Kabuff or Gritty Ditty

Yep, that's it.

Poker is shit, the only way to get winnings on that anyways is to win a shitload of rounds of the "pick the higher number" card game that comes after you win a hand.

Do the 10 coin slot machine, the far right one in the past has 2 rows of 7's for the highest chances of them. If you so happen to line them up right they count as double payouts (unfortunately not as good as lining up four 7s)

>Poison dagger skill
>Setesh was envenomed!

he takes 150 damage per turn

Is there no way to expose that fake hero in La Bravoure?

Poker is only if you're doing tool assisted or segmented speedrun, don't bother.
If you want to bother anyway; if you don't start with a pair or better, discard everything that isn't a joker. The reason you want to discard everything is in the hopes you draw a joker, which is a wildcard, and will most likely win you the round. After you win the round, it's time for Double or Nothing, the real reason to play poker. The rules get explained to you, give up if you get a 7 or 8, maybe if you get a 6 or 9 too if you're safe. If you find a way to manipulate the rng like people did with DQ 9, this is the game you want. Otherwise, it's riskier than any amount of slot playing, and slower if you don't count just happening to get 21 wins in a row on accident.

Both past and present near alltrades has 2 rows of 7s

Anybody have the soundtrack to download on Mega or something?

Also I finally got jobs.. no wait, I have to go through some more bullshit. How do you defeat those two monsters after rescuing the priest?

God damn it I just want jobs already. I'm at Faraday Castle, how long do I have?

kill the tiger first

spam the salvation stone with Maribel

good luck

about 12 more hours

really

I'm You're getting there.. I got up to 22 hours in the game, and it is in my reach.

Thanks brah

gamefaqs.com/boards/688276-dragon-quest-vii-fragments-of-the-forgotten-past/74326503

Mini medal and haven guide for anyone interested.

Just set then for dont use magic. There is almost no ability in the game with a longer animation than basic attacking that wont also do more damage than basic attacking at the same time

Thanks.

>salvation stone
w-what

Anyone?

Personal question to you guys.

I'm fifty hours in and already grinded my characters to their best classes. I was worried that later on it would take forever to advance classes but it evens out with how fucking long the game is. I feel bad since I didn't want to cheese the game just thought I would only be getting my advance classes later on. Should I go back to intermediate classes and not completely destroy everything?

You have a bit, maybe around 5ish hours.

Did you not pay attention? Fingers gives you a stone which is basically an infinite use medicinal herb in battle. Use it.

You'll get the item needed to obtain the carpet in the next region you travel to.

okay thanks I heard you could accidentally skip over getting him early and I don't want that to happen

Restart the game; you've fucked yourself by being an idiot.

How do I get in the dig site when the bodyguard is blocking it?

go talk to digby at the palace in the past hell give you what you need.

You might have I believe, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm sure you know already but Mervyn comes having mastered or even a single star in any class. Prepare to either grind or have him be deadweight for a bit.

>finally beat tiger and rhino
>get key too alltrades
>have to go through another dungeon first
>get abilities back
>have to win this fucking arena now

DOES IT EVER END?

I'm grinding masteries for the base pool of vocations at Slimetree Forest, how hilariously have I broken the difficulty curve for the game?

Haven't done the fight with the bandits near Present Alltrades, so I'm essentially just after unlocking Alltrades Abbey in terms of plot.

anyone have that super simple vocation chart?

are there also any simple chart for monster classes?

*doesn't

Fuck

until the last round of the arena its not that bad. you can bang your way through the beginning rounds

Just start learning the other beginner and intermediate classes. Then switch your characters back to their best class before the final battle. A character can have more than one advanced class.

>here lies one who danced for the Almighty, and beside her, her dutiful guardian
IM CRYING

>Implying I'm not already doing that
user, pls. Scorch is long as hell and they keep spamming it instead of using regular attacks. Lightning is not much better.

I don't believe a monster guide exists other then this one. Unfortunately everything will be the Japanese names, sorry. Hope it helps a bit at least.
dq7.org/

I'm fairly sure it's actually a bit weaker than medicinal herbs (seems to heal more in the 20s than the herbs' 30s,) but yeah, still a useful thing.

I got really lucky with him. For whatever reason, his main strategy was to only attack my main character and no one else. I could have Ruff and Maribel do whatever they wanted

>no reaction from party
serves him right for betraying us.

>Oh this must be Kiefer's grave
>party chat
>nothing

THANKS

Mastering 2-3 basic vocations for each character won't break anything.

Hero: Priest->Warrior->Martial Artist
Maribel: Priest->Jester->Dancer
Ruff: Priest->Shepherd->Warrior

Was what I did. After that I made them Sailor/Mage/Thief respectively and played normally, and I think my vocation progression has felt pretty area-appropriate.

And for ruining Florin's life too

I used Buff on Ruff and his defense went up like 250 for six turns. The enemy just kept hitting him but it took so many tries. Why was that fucking thing there.

That fucking Wetlock arc
>figure out right away that Florin is the musician, assume he became a crazy demon-worshipping motherfucker after getting cucked and that's why he's kidnapping people
>he actually became a huge bro and saves an entire continent, while Kiefer disgraced himself by abandoning everyone and everything dear to him just for gypsy pussy, not to mention they obviously never succeeded in reviving anything based on the present

I dunno about that. It would've only been a matter of time before it was revealed that he had the mark. If anything Kiefer was just the salt in the wound.

so kiefer doesnt come back?

Yeah, I figured that much. Thing is, when I said "the base pool of vocations" I meant to say "all of them, for my current party" (which is Hero, Maribel, and Ruff/Gabo right now.)

I'm 99% sure this is overkill and totally unnecessary, but I don't really mind doing it.

Nope.

what, thats dumb

Yeah, that's true. Regardless, Florin was royally screwed over by everything

That'll definitely break the difficulty. But it'll also do something far worse: bloat your menus with mostly useless abilities.

I don't even remember who Digby is.

Yeah, Kiefer is pretty dumb.

I can't help it, the shiny golden stars of completion call to me.
I have a problem, I know.

>Tfw I didn't miss a single one even without the guide

how many people do you eventually end up with in your party?

Do you at least get his equipment?

Not even the one in Pilgrim's Perdition where you have to randomly select Examine at a certain spot?

At least the abilities are divided into appropriate categories now

After returning to the present, you find a sack sitting behind you with a letter from him and all his equipment in it. So at least he wasn't that big a dick.

After I made Ruff a thief after that I backtracked spamming Snoop in every room to see what it actually did.

Unless you're grinding low level enemies (which you shouldn't be doing) or slime tablet (which is an oversight anyway, clearly it's not the devs intention for players to max vocations in there), using skills will always be faster than spamming auto attack. If anything, it's the flawed job leveling system that you should be complaining instead. Having the battle count as a way to level jobs promotes monotonous grinding, forcing the players to fight monster that's low level enough for the fight to be easy, but still count as job exp. Compared to that, metal slimes hunting in other DQ is miles better. It encourages you to be active (which prevents boringness and the need for auto battle in the first place), but yields better rewards.

Meh

I got
Hero: Hero
Ruff: Champion
Maribel: Druid

I'm so close to that slutty nightgown I can almost taste it

>you can bang your way through the beginning rounds
>not giving hero a boomerang and having ruff spam sic em

Meh

You can still complete them later, you know. The game is long.

So I'm in need of party healing spells right now now that Maribel is gone. I have Mervyn as warrior>fighter>priest>paladin
and Aishe as dancer>jester>troubadour. Should I make Mervyn into a sage or continue for luminary for Hustle?

You'll have plenty of time to get the classes later without murdering the difficulty curve
The game is already easy enough with nothing but defensive buffs, Oomph, and Knuckle Sandwich

I'm at the arena, too.
I just got to round 5 without much issue, but last night I was getting the worst RNG possible. The Priest literally would not stop spamming Snooze and his wind spell. It seems like it's going fine this time, however.

>Kiefer disgraced himself by abandoning everyone and everything dear to him just for gypsy pussy
Doesn't matter, had sex. ;^)

Hustle Dance is very useful for that part of the game
Particularly against Cumulus Vex

>Ruff's defence drops to zero!
what the fuck?

This morning I got to the place after El Ciclo, WetWood or something stupid like that

How much longer until I get Monster Meadows? I just wanna do random dungeons and tablets 5ever

Yes, I'm currently grinding for job levels (Mervyn). Yes, it is a flawed system. Yes, it would be made hundreds of times faster with a dedicated auto-battle feature.

You're almost done. Almost. Of course, after the Arena, you have to go through another 3 or so basement floors of Alltrades Abbey which are monster-infested and laid out like a dungeon, then you have one last boss before you're finally done… but you're close!

That's what I was thinking. I'm actually getting destroyed by the cumulus vex, so I'm in desperate need

I recently got a Jawtoise and Golem heart.

I know Jawtoise gets Oomph but are there any other notable skills they both have?

I'm pretty sure you felt very area-appropriate gang banging those bandits

when do I unlock the second casino?

>Wanting the game to literally be able to play itself
But why? I dropped FFXII like 30 hours in cause I got to a point where I could rig the whole gambit system to require absolutely no input from me besides running to the next fight, it was boring as shit.

Just keep Aishe and Merv spamming heals and you should be alright

>unlock class changing
>remember about the tablet in the shit town
>go down and up through the dungeon and cave to get the tablet and come back
>find out shortcut had been opened
Fuck.
Also, I wish the game would tell you when you're not getting class points from battles anymore.

I think it'd be fine if you could just set it to remember what your last choice was so you wouldn't have to move the cursor over to spell or ability every turn.

Am I the only one who thought the Alltrades Abbey arc was cool as fuck? Most people seem to hate it, but I didn't have much difficulty. I even bought a huge stock of medicinal herbs, but just playing safe and smart with the Salvation Stone was enough to get me through most of it. I did suffer casualties against Tigger and Piglet, and Cardinal Sin, though.

Job scumming the monster tablets desu

It'd be fine the way it is if the fucking menu lag wasn't there. Normally I don't mind it, but when grinding vocations it very quickly starts sticking out.

If you were able to do anything other than spam Attacks and Salvation Stone, then sure, it would have had potential.
But the thing is, here you are 20 hours into the game, FINALLY getting access to vocations, and then the game tells you to get fucked.

Where is this shortcut?

You can get to pilgrim town through its north gate, which was blocked by boulders before, now it's opened.

Is oomph + focus strength > knuckle sandwich the highest damage dealer in this game?

The wall in the back of the shit town is now gone and you can just get there from the world map. I hadn't even walked out, so I didn't see it.

You act like the battle system evolves noticeably after you actually do get vocations. 75% of the abilities (probably more) are rubbish, and combat still consists of using whatever cost-efficient strategy you come up with for all random encounters, and bringing your full might to bear in boss fights. If the gameplay is a 5/10 before vocations, it gets bumped up to a 5.5-6/10 at most. I don't think I'm alone in saying I don't exactly play this for the gameplay.

If anything, the tension of being stripped completely bare of what you'd come to rely on made the Alltrades Abbey arc fights some of the more memorable ones for me.

I'd sure as fuck hope a basic vocation skill gets outclassed by something eventually.

Focus strength is waste of turn. You deal the same damage in two turns.

What are the casino locations? I've only found the one near Alltrades but there's gotta be a faster one.

Just play on a CFW'd N3DS fampai, no lag here.

>can't imbue elements with Armamentalist like in DQIX
>can't abuse boss elemental weaknesses to kill the last boss in three turns

It's okay at the beginning of a battle while you're sapping the enemy or earlier on if your attacker has really low MP.

Gets the most damage out of your MP though
Plus big numbers, who doesn't like hitting for 1400 in a series where damage numbers generally say in the 100's?

Isn't it slightly more than double damage though?

alltrades abbey (past)
alltrades abbey (present)
the haven (when it's completed)

Someone told me this threads ago, and called me stupid. Well I tested it and you are completely wrong.

>fighting cardinal sin
>he up and kills maribel from 100% hp on turn 4
what the fuck
she was the one holding my only yggdrasil leaf, too

should I just restart?

arent the both altrades ones identical?

Do i need to fully complete the haven with all 16 people?

How did you not have three yggdrasil leaves by then?

Present one has better flip card prizes, apparently

It's the same. The differences you see is just damage variance.

Thankfully I fought those bandits immediately after mastering my first three jobs.

Priest on Ruff
Mage on Maribel
Warrior on Hero

Much like all the boss fights so far I barely survived. I've already grinded 5+ jobs for everyone and I'm regretting it because I fear it'll make everyone feel too samey and bloat move lists with redundant moves.

Present day Vogograd

I used one in the Stripes and Rashers fight, and never found the other.

I just finished waking up all the spirits and the almightys true identity was revealed

How close am I to the ending?

I beat those bandits with only a couple levels in my first job for each character
Shit was rough

Is there another casino after the 2nd one?

How do I tame monsters with the Munchies? DonI have to use the item or just have them in my bag?

Also what the fuck do I do with monster hearts?

Put a monster heart in a characters inventory and talk to the alltrades guy.

Burn the whole village down except the kids who will start the village anew

How do you make the guy on the far right slot machine at alltrades leave?

Thats the lucky machine right? I want to use it.

>Mayor just casually smashes the tablet with a club

>take shepherd as one of my first jobs
>expect it to be trash
>ability to put all enemies to sleep for 0 MP
>works almost 100% of the time if enemy is not immune
I almost feel bad for not letting regular enemies do anything.

just get into the right angle and use it the machine

Just use the machine, he's not actually in your way

>How do you make the guy on the far right slot machine at alltrades leave?
You don't. You position yourself beside him and play it like normal.

>Your party does absolutely nothing to stop him

How many residents do i need for the haven casino to open?

Thanks. Apparently I'm retarded.

More than 10 I think
But it'll be the same as the Alltrades casino until you get all 16

NX OVER HERE

holy fuck I wasn't paying attention and started mashing A in the cardinal sin fight
are you supposed to lose it? I didn't even realize it was over until I saw the text on the black background, so I can't tell if I lost or somehow managed to win

You're supposed to win it. He just has a bullshit attack that does about 70 damage twice to a single character.

I just got vocations, so my best bet is still spamming the fuck out of the slots in either alltrades casino for a long time?

FINALLY GOT VOCATIONS

I'll now grind the everloving shit out of them, breaking the game or not.
What's a good setup to start with for the 3 dudes i have right now?

You can't grind them too much because you stop getting job exp if you're level is too high for the enemies around.

Fuck me. DQVIII took a while to get going but when it hit its stride, it was amazing. I hope that's the case for DQVII as well.

>This Alltrades quest with no abilities

Fuck this game and fuck Fingers 2bh

Take the shortcut back down for the tablet when you're done with all that so you don't go through all the monsters again.

Shortcut?

It might seem counter-intuitive, but I'd suggest making your Hero a Shepherd first, especially if you insist on grinding masteries. Whistle is invaluable, letting you get into fights real quick, and having your Hero learn it means less button presses to actually using it.

As for other things you might want to do, mastering a couple Priests might be helpful, because Zing is far cheaper for revives than doing it at a church.

Someone else can go over other shit, these are just some general tips.

The boulder blocking the north entrance to Pilgrim's Perdition vanishes

Why the fuck does the automaton part have so much unnecessary dialogue?

Cheers

Where do i get the mermaid moon for the carpet?

Keep playing the story

Padding

Alltrades Abbey is one of the best parts of the game imo. Way better than boring shit like Volcano Island and Robot Island.

>Die to the purple dragon looking boss in the desert area
>Decide to grind for cash and exp
>Ruff masters shepherd
>Switch to thief
>Already level 7 thief now and it hasn't even been an hour

I'm going to get Monster Masher early and I haven't even mastered warrior on Arus or mage on Maribel, and I heard it's one of the best classes so I'm hype

why is it called dragon quest?

I think I only have enough time in my life for one Dragon Quest. What is the general consensus on VII vs. VIII?

Yeah there weren't any dragons until around 30 hours in.

And it was a fucking plesiosaur, not even a serpent like they called it.

Monster Masher is pretty ridiculous to get early yeah
And Thief and Shepherd are really fast to master

I'd recommend making Ruff a Priest at some point so you can abuse his high speed for emergency heals later.

Fuck the volcano. Why did the game have such a hard on for making you go through dungeons twice early on?

Tiger and wolf battle wasn't bad for me, but I fucked myself over by picking vocations immediately and then having to face the four bandits.

Also kinda tedious from facing three boss battles in a row along with an arena battle inbetween.

Is there a good vocation Guide somewhere? Like what do the ranks mean etc

So which Boss led you to start grinding?

I'm in the desert with the snake and Boss is fucking me three ways from sunday. Decided to step back and grind some classes before returning

Each job just has eight ranks. You can see what rank you're on for each job in the attributes page for each character.

How does the time travel thing work?

Couldn't the team have gone back and told Big Keef the Roamers failed? Or tell Automan about ELLIE?

None
I did a bit of grinding to get Mervyn and Aishe caught up when they joined but that was it

I know Kiefer leaves. Do any other members permanently leave? I don't want to waste my time improving them to much.

He's the only one to leave permanently.

Ruff sticks with you forever

I was really expecting those two shrine maidens to heal me.

I mean gee it's not like Maribel wasted most her MP getting here.

Need help. I did quick save and when I turned my game on I was at the last save I made. Did I do something wrong?

pay attention when you boot it up, dummy

Sounds like you chose the wrong vocations.

now that i got my first jobs, do i just grind these out now or just continue the story normally? where can you check your job experience?

>Entrance heals you
>Princess heals you literally one floor later, and all you need to do is solve a puzzle to get there
>fight two more long floors and a midboss
>Well thanks go and get fucked, you still got two more floors of monsters to go!

>Live in Argentina
>Want to get the game phisycal.
>Everyone sells it for 70$
>Friend doesn't travel to USA until November.

Oh well, at least i'm white.

I'm afraid of succumbing to the digital meme.

>the four thieves right next to present day Alltrade Abbey
what exactly just happened? do I get to fight them again at some point? was I supposed to be able to win that fight?

>was I supposed to be able to win that fight?
Yes

time to grind your vocations

There's a counter on the left side of of Alltrades. One of the people there tells you how many more battles you need to win to rank up. Be aware that if you're level is too high, you won't get job experience.

Does anyone else REALLY hate this localization over the PS1 in terms of script?

I hate the new town and character names.

>fight midboss
>constantly put him to sleep with my Shepherd
>he doesn't get a single attack off
>only end up using 4 MP casting Sap twice

Did the clocktower, back in present day. It was like two hours of walking around and no battle including that and revisiting Herb place.

It that all there is to do? Maribel said we should fuck off.

I can confirm that the Skimpy Nightie does still change Maribel's outfit.

wouldn't it be better to go to the equip screen that no one uses to get a better screenshot?

>going through a dungeon twice
That's nothing, they make you go through some of the later dungeons half a dozen times or more.
Theres a shitload of backtracking in this game.

How do you zoom the camera out?

Oh I forgot about that screen entirely
Gimme a moment

...

>Maribel's midriff as a Mage

Really? At what point?

When you reach the town named Providence there's this cave that leads to the church

They make you go back and forth through this cave multiple times and iirc you can't use Evac or Zoom in the present day version when you reach the top.

Garter doesn't do shit I take it

>can't use Evac or Zoom
Why do they keep doing this?

Half the games runtime is walking back somewhere.

Evac only works if there's one exit from the area

Because fuck you.

You also can't have a wagon either.

Not true, you can evac out of the cave between Aeolus Vale and Shrine of Winds on either end. It takes you out to the end you entered from.

what levels should they be at? I just got my party to level 3

>can't Zoom in the past
>can't Zoom from the digsite but can Zoom from the top of Grotta del Sigillo
>not every location is on the Zoom list

>Faraday Castle is on the list
>But the town isn't.

???

What happened to that bitch cayenne. Does she turn up later?

She finally got her pickle

...

how many stars do i need to master a vocation? i hope its not 10

10. It goes gold.

>dermot the hermit sleeping
>ah-phew... ah phew...
>zzz... I wish I had friends... Lots of friends...

Eight.

bump
my party is Warrior!Hero, Priest!Ruff, Mage!Maribel

Time to scope out the final dungeon. Merv's almost done with Gladiator though so I'll probably have to back out and make him a Champion before coming back in.

Hero's a Hero, Ruff's still working on Prism Peacock (this takes forever apparently) and Maribel's working on Sage. Probably won't bother grinding her through Luminary until postgame.

Is there a way to use the human jobs but keep the default costume for the characters?

>Mercurial Thrust - "strikes an enemy before anyone else can act"
>thinking it'll make the warrior run up fast as fuck and hit someone
>he just walks over regularly
this is the most disappointing shit ever

>love Dragon Quest games
>always get burned out because the games take fucking forever to get anywhere or do anything vaguely interesting

Outside of 3, 5, and 8, are there any DQ games where the start isn't a 10+ hour slog? I love 7 to death, but holy fuck this may be the reason these games don't do well in the West.

I don't remember IX being too bad about it. At least you could choose from a few classes to make the rest of your party early on.

I can't find the sunken city in the present, where is it supposed to be?
Is it invisible from the flying carpet?

>Arrive at the bird people island
>See one normal human among them
>girls dad "that's my daughter shes adopted"
>girl gets made fun of because she has to FUCKING WALK
That's actually my daughter she defective

Even she like turns out to be like some chosen super bird person that's still right in the feels

just did this, it was annoying as fuck but it's just like 3 areas and most monsters are easily avoidable.
Still, it's so time wasting, what's the point of building a church on a cave filled with monsters? And isn't the icon supposed to get rid of the monsters, how does that even make sense plot-wise?

I missed out on 9. Is it too late to go back and play it since there was the multiplayer component to it

If anything monsters should've appeared there after the icon was broken

no
You'll miss 3 fucking times in a row

yeah it's too inaccurate for my liking. I prefer using flame or gust slash

>do the internet streetpass thing
>a dude gives me a tablet with all the gemslimes

thanks senpai

The multiplayer was local only, and it didn't really add much and could actually stunt your party's growth because you had to make room for other players.
What could affect things is that you can't download the DLC quests anymore. It's possible to add them in through other methods though.

It works great until I think Hubble when it starts to miss a lot more.

>Set everyone to Fight Wisely
>KNUCKLE SANDWICH KNUCKLE SANDWICH KNUCKLE SANDWICH

youtube.com/watch?v=tXDNBBh2QSo

Fuck off Florin. Nothing will change the fact you got cucked and ran away like a huge baby.

Stay mad Kiefer, you lost.

>First Orgodemir fight
>It's just a couple of turns of Hero, Mervyn, and Ruff spamming Knuckle Sandwich while Aishe spams Hustle Dance
This move is so fucking good

>free Mervyn
>actually feel compelled to bring him to all the party's friends and family and go on a world tour

man I love this game

Should I let him be classless for a while, or does he not learn any more skills before choosing a vocation?

Just got my vocations and trained some classes, where do i go from here?

Hero - Shepherd/warrior
Maribel - Priest/Sage
Ruff - Shepherd/Priest

Do i go Paladin+Gladiator for Hero, beeline to druid for Maribel? And i have no idea what to do with Ruff

>step out of yellow shrine teleport room because I had something to do in the desert
>notice the sconces of the blue teleport room are lit
>"huh, wonder if it's open"
>it is
>get some Prism Dew inside, whatever that is

I feel like I just discovered a secret.

>And i have no idea what to do with Ruff

Make him max out Priest and go for Thief and Shepard for Monster Masher

The skills characters learn by leveling up are separate from their class skills, give him a job ASAP

it's under the option to resume from the last priest save. It's a little wierd since it doesn't go away, either.

It's required later

>got two new islands to choose from this time

Even green, odd red

I have have grasslands, graveyard, forest, tropics, seaside, mountains, desert and tower

where are the other two enclosure plans

Characters who should've been party members instead of Aishe.

Rocky and Wiggles. True heroes.

he was a true bro

MC's dad.

He never even got a memorial grave for his sacrifice :(

>Rocky joins your party
>Yfw he sacrifices himself to kill Ogrodemir.

so when you master a vocation, you can choose a new one and you keep the abilities right?

How does that online tablet thing work? I can share a tablet every 24 hours and i get 1 tablet from a random online guy every 24 hours?

Only for the basic ones.

a little help here please

Only on basic or monster vocations, on intermediate or advance you lose them.

how do you unlock those?

So you keep all monster and basic vocation abilities at all times and can only have the abilities of an intermediate or advanced vocation if you're on that vocation? Or am I missing something?

Which one?

I just updated my N3DS to the newest system version and now my game lags a bit. When i open the menu it noticably stutters. Everyone else has this?

Correct, a skills you learn from a basic vocation and monster vocation you will permanently keep once learn. With intermediate or advance classes the skills will only be available when using the class.

so if you don't get to keep intermediate classes, then is the point of them to go through them to unlock the advance classes?

right now i mastered dancer for maribelle, and i just changed her to a mage.

>trying to get the war-axe for the casino double card for 2 hours
>only thing missing left
EVERYTIME IT FUCKING POPS UP I FIND THE MIXING UP NI THE FIRST CARDS I POP UP WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUCK FUCK THIS GAME REEEEEEEE

you can get up to 3 or 4 i forgot the number

if you only got one it means someone shared one of the starting tablets

Intermediate classes need to be mastered in order to access the advance classes. Even then the intermediate classes are more efficient in a certain field while the advance classes are more balanced. If you really wanted I'm sure you could beat the game without using a advanced class.

It's to the southwest of the fishing town that used to be in the past. You'll find a whirlpool there.

Well shit, final dungeon was shorter than I thought

After beating the final boss will I be able to come back and see what paths open up if I use the other spirit's amulets? I didn't even check everything on the path I took. Once again I go the exact right way by just trying to explore.

You need some tablets for the post game stuff. I know maximo gives you one for 85 I believe.

Can anyone explain how Monster Vocations work? For example, I have a large supply of Slime hearts; if I use one to become a Slime, am I then stuck as a slime until I max it/change out of the vocation, or does it eventually evolve into a new type of monster? Do monster vocations evolve, or do they drop new monster hearts at some point?

I've seen the monster vocations chart, but I can't wrap my head around what that progression means, or how it happens.

Yeah I already have the tablet from medals. And I did grab the tablet on my way down here. There were just some rooms earlier in the dungeon I missed that I was hoping I can go back and check out since I apparently can't leave this final hallway without just quitting back to my last save.

I think you only need monster heart for changing to that monster only. After that, you can treat it like every other jobs.

You can change any class, monster or regular, before mastering it. Monster classes give you permanent skills, once you get a skill with a monster heart the character will always have that skill.

you put the monster heart into your inventory

then when you go to change your job you can select slime

you level up the slime and max it then do other jobs

if you max certain monsters other monsters appear vocations appear that do not require the heart in order to change

that faggot priest at the Buccanham present time refuses to give me the stone tablet, he decided to go this bed and I can't do anything now?

>Show the cat the Seal of Sands?

Biological or the one that adopted him?

Talk to nun, the examine the altar.

For mastering classes do boss battles count for more then one battle? The ladt two bosses I fought advanced on of my characters a rank, seems too good to be coincidental.

Where do I get this?!

Anyone got the list of the locations of all the reformed monsters for the haven?

See

Just started, how long until I can change jobs Cred Forums?

The final boss was neat, although his second form was by far the most dangerous of the four, since he actually mixed up Magic and Breath attacks, had higher speed than everyone on my side but Ruff, and spammed Disruptive Wave

20 hours

thx

Oh, and for the record, I had
>Hero: Hero (5*)
>Maribel: Sage (5*)
>Ruff: Prism Peacock (6*)
>Mervyn: Champion (1*, literally just made him one before accidentally running into the final boss room)

I guess I'll have to grind them out to their final classes for the postgame shit.

What is the Thief's Key for? I haven't found any doors that it can unlock.

it's for chests

500,000 tokens at the monster casino.

AKA good fucking luck.

Can Aishe wear it?

nope

>not having your final classes mastered for the final battle

I spared the big fish king but now the chest on his left is locked, what do?
I already received the tablet

nigga talk about a chore. it takes about 3700 battles to max out all the human classes just on the hero who's always in the party.

I was planning to, I didn't mean to fucking walk into the boss room by accident. I had thought the portal was a shortcut back to the entrance of the dungeon or something considering there was a big ominous door next to it. Even to the very last moment this game fucks with my sense of direction.

I also fucking forgot to give everyone the proper consumables before walking into the fight so I was running fucking dangerously low on MP by the end. Would've been in trouble if I did run out.

it can help for chests, especially useful to find more Mini medals.
>mfw 63 mini medals found
I'm missing a few more fragment tablets. I need to get the one in Buccinham to exchange something for it, another one Pool of Piety and a tablet in a shrine north of Wetlock (which I don't know how to access)

>finally get vocations
>Mage's Frizzle is better than anything else I'm capable of
wew

does anybody have any good art of the Pips?

>the hermit mumbles while sleeping "I wish I have lots of friends..."

Kek

>kicked out of the manor
Crap I think I skipped that. Is it too late to go back and see it or is the event probably gone now? I just got access to vocations.

What are mini medals for?

>what do?
nothing, it was probably crap anyway

No, you'll get that event later on.

you exchange them for rewards somewhat late into the game. You need 85 for a stone tablet and some are missable.

if you want an upgraded monster park and access to the bonus dungeons, you're going to need 85 of them.

Otherwise it's okay gear, but none of it is great.

The max reward at 110 medals is a great reward, but it can be achieved through other means.

Trading for rare items. If you're pretty early in the game, it'll be a while until you can actually trade them in thought

I'm really worried about overleveling my jobs, since I had to grind a little bit earlier. Level 5-6 is probably too high, right? I just got the fragment from the Bandit Hideout.

What do Lucida Shards do?

confuse an enemy on use. Only works if enemies are prone to being confused.

It's great when you get Weird Whacker. That seems to confuse enemies pretty often.

At that point it's still okay to have a 1 or 2 maxed vocations. In fact, maxing priest for 1 or two characters is encouraged.

>only one tablet fragment to go
Am I almost over with this game?
I almost feel sorry about it but I am at my 70 hour though

Great, thanks. And while I'm asking, how do I get Intermediate and above classes? Do I just need to master the prerequisite classes, like Thief and Shepherd for Monster Masher?

Do I have to win the prize at the casino to one of the fragment tablet that you need to exchange for something in Buccaham?

There's a person at the desk on the first floor of Alltrades that tells you

Yep

Yes, most likely.

Wheres the reformed monster in the likeness? I found them all except the one in the likeness.

Actually after you get the last tablet fragment, the demon king appears and steals all the tablets and rescatters them throughout the world and time and you basically play through the game again in a new order with new problems to fix.
You're not even halfway done.

He's actually outside the building itself. look around the entrance

>the demon king appears and steals all the tablets and rescatters them throughout the world and time and you basically play through the game again
wtf I hate DQVII now

It's Bravely Default all over again

Thats only if you didn't find the dragonballs scattered through the islands. Hori was a big fan of ghosts and goblins so he thought it would be a nice call back.

How can you hate this fabulous motherfucker?

Where do I find the haven monster in La Bravoure?

no, that's not the fragment tablet that I'm missing in Buccinham.

are you joking? does that actually happen and you have to do it all again?

Do any of the other games in the series have a continuity like I-III?

4-6 I believe are the same world.

4-6 kinda

4-7 have a very slight one
8 has a connection to 3 as well

Whoops I meant 4-6, finger slipped

I'm joking user, getting all the tablets is like 80% of the game, theres only a bit more after that.

anybody else go all the way through the dungeon of alltrades to get that shard the banker left behind?

Goddamn did I feel dumb when I walked out of the abby and saw that boulder gone

At least I leveled some jobs

so what is puff puff implied to be in the original Japenese?

Are armors and weapons at the ship enough for the final boss?

Theyre really expensive. Also, whats the best way to grind money? I still dont have liquid metal slime tablets.

It's the same joke, they make you think it's shoving your face in some tiddies but it's always a fakeout

go to Grondal and get 3 gemslimes then make a tablet

or get a bunch of prayer rings at the casino

the inn I think

does the "Puff!" dragon change colors based on who is using it? When Ruff transforms, it's mainly dark blue

I wonder if the slimes get anything from that

>the dog gets poisoned because Cayanne is fucking nuts
>dude's waifu is ded
>he just sorta leaves after the fact

Goddamn, no closure is driving me nuts.

It's the sound of a woman rubbing breasts on a man's face

I honestly did not expect the game to be this fucked up

There's a scene later on that's about as fucked up, if not more, than Pankraz's death in V

ABSOLUTE MADMAN

and here I was expecting to get a blowjob for being mr big hero guy

It's practically impossible to get the 77777 on the 100 coins machines. FUCK!

So how the fuck do i use the pixie pitcher in the great tree part?! I press use but it doesn't collect the water droplets what the fuck pls help

I got it in DQ5 once. I was set for life on tokens.

Getting 5 melons on the 100 coin machine gets you 300k, I got that once in this game.

dont you just have to walk next to it

What's the ideal endgame vocation for each party member?

Why do I get the urge to play dragon quest 9 the more I play 7?

Yeah i realized after i posted that thx

Depends what you want out of em. Final boss isn't TOO tough, I haven't seen what kind of hell awaits me in the bonus dungeon yet though, still doing the victory tour.

>richest man in the world witnesses a one of a kind miracle
>somehow doesn't believe an old man could be the Almighty's hero despite being escourted up a monter infested tower by three children, one of them having extremely close chemistry with a fucking wild animal that breathes napalm

the dude must of seen some shit

Holy shit I did the same thing, when I realized you can just go through abby's I died a little.

>Honestly hopes the legendary hero will become his maid or something even after said legendary hero learns that the world isn't at peace

Yeah OK. I'm sure that's well worth his time.

So can I share tablets with anyone I want? I just made a tablet with metal slimes and two shit enemies, was going to ask if anyone wanted it.

If they are within 30 ft of you yeah.

There's a man who gives you a Puff Puff in III as well. I'm afraid to even imagine what that would be like...

Honore's maid just told me to go search for the Mermaid treasure, but didn't give me the real flying carpet.
Should I just go to the next available island? It's the desert one.

Oh baby

How do I grind for monster hearts? Is there a way to make a dungeon with exclusively one type of monster?

yup keep going. You're about two islands away.

put said monster in a bonus barn
get two more of that monster
make tablet
???
profit

Tablet dungeons you make yourself, even with three of the same monster have a 4th and 5th designated by what's near them in the monster book.

The only way to counter this somewhat is set a monster from the special catagory as the leader, but you'll still get some of those monsters in the regular dungeon.

Goddamn, the Hero is an absolute pussy destroyer

>what are we going to do on the bed [hero]?

>*pomf*
>The bed was a Dream Eater!

>Hero casts Oomph!
>Hero casts Knuckle Sandwich!

I'm having the same issue. I stopped playing 9 because cant remember why. But 7 keeps making me want to finish it.

>Foe Euphonia is stunned by [hero]'s jewels!
>[hero] unleashes multifists!

I swear that shit would happen. I'm actually surprised closets didn't have a skeleton in them.

what?

What abilities are effective towards metal slimes?

I'm literally missing two mini medals to get to 65.
How could I miss two? I don't want to have to re-do every dungeons/towns to found which ones I might have missed.

Hatchet Man
Metal Slash
Poison Needle

When your level is high enough, normal metals will damage normally from regular-non elemental strikes even attacks.

For other metals, metal slice, hatchet man (either crit or miss), and ultra hit are your go to's.

>people who keep resending the default villager tablets

>I swear that shit would happen. I'm actually surprised closets didn't have a skeleton in them.

Dragon Quest 11 needs to step up its game

>Open a closet
>Oh no! It was a skeledresser!

>Search through a bag hanging on the wall
>Oh no! It was a Bag o' Horrors!

>Talk to an NPC
>Oh no! It's a doppelganger!

You're probably missing at least one that was invisible on the ground.

>Try to go up some stairs
>Oh no! It's a Scarecase!

>Try to walk into a castle
>Oh no! It's a Ruin!

I wonder how the fmv will look on the 3ds.
Did they announce a release date?

>camera moves
>her tits wobble
this is the real cancer killing video games

>Chilly place in desert
>Well user are you gonna do the gentlemanly thing and give me all your clothes?

Marribel is the Tsundere all other Tsunderes should aspire to be

but I'm not that far in the game.... when do I finally get to use all those monsters, anyway?

>Try to go to a town
>Oh no! This is halloween, halloween halloween!

>Talk to the innkeeper
>Oh no! It's a Grinkeeper!

>Talk to Ogrodemir
>Oh no! It's Ogrodemir!

then stop leeching the system you kike.

what are these monster vocations everybody is talking about? you can turn into a monster or something? how do i get those?

Well that was a good game
Class system still has some issues, but overall I enjoyed it

>Open menu
>Oh no! it's a werelist!

>Try to save
>Oh no! It's a Time Waster!

the other door

yeah, I figured that out, but what does "shut fast" mean?

I can't get to the Shrine north of Wetlock? Because the flying carpet can't go over the mountains. So are there other ways to get there?

It means someone slammed the door quickly.

Sometimes (VERY RARE with normal play) monsters will drop a heart if they have one. They drop more frequently in tablet dungeons.

You need a heart for all basic monster jobs for each party member if you want them all to have that job. You can get hearts for advanced monster jobs as well, but basic jobs can combine and give you access without needing the heart.

For the most part they are not needed to beat all what the game offers, but if you want a particular skill to carry over between classes, this is typically the only way to get it.

Continue with the story m8

I just unlocked Scorch

>wolf is now vietnam war helicopter

>Before mine imprisonment, this building was a temple—a place of prayer, where men would come to pledge their dedication to the Almighty.
>Yet what do I find now? A squalid den of vice and iniquity! ...Shall the drop in?
Mervyn is the best.

how long until I get him? I'm on the desert island right now

I'm missing 3 tablets fragments. The one from King Maximo the one at the Pool of Piety? Which I don't know or remember where it is and the Shrine of North of Wetlock.

Some of the party chats are genuinely funny

>Why did you tell that man to get lost? He just wanted to know where the Alltrades Abbey was!

You can get him as soon as you get the flying carpet, so you're still a while off

Ruff, Maribel, and Mervyn's party chats are comedy gold

Where do i find the tablet in Grondal? The thing is flashing but i cant find it

I can't remember the exacts, but there's one party chat after talking with one of the NPCs that more of a hussy and Maribel says she's nothing like her and just ends with..."What are you looking at me like that for?"

did you talk to the farmer?

It's fun to poke fun at Maribel

>If I died, you'd remember me forever and ever right?
>>No
>What?! How rude!

It's from her straightening her back. Get your eyes checked.

so I'm working to finish up El Ciclo, how many jobs should I have mastered by now? I'm working on my second one for each character.

Also, how much more game is there left? I checked a guide and it looks like I'm nearing what would be the end of Disc 1, and the other 2 discs don't seem to be nearly as long as this one.

Just talked to him thx

even then, they really shouldn't move that much

>go dowm stairs
> go up stairs

Too bad all the breath moves are class-locked.

In fact, a number of moves are class-locked and it's a little annoying. Animal Magnetism is kind of essential and certain powerful attacks mean you can never really have a good spread of anything but apparently sleep skills.

As long as you haven't run into a brick wall difficulty wise you're fine. Worst case you might need to grind up someone with Multiheal by the time you get to Cumulus Vex, but that's a while away for you still.

Oh god it wasn't just me.

Learn monster classes.

>just arrived at the second casino
>which means I'm probably gonna spend the night gambling for OP gear once again
At least they made a tunnel that specifically leads straight to the save point. It sucks that you can't quicksave inside the casino

SEND HELP

I ALREADY HAVE 11 VOCATIONS MAXED PER CHARACTER, I CAN'T DECIDE ON WHAT THE FUCK TO DO WITH RUFF

Just found out that I missed out on the Lore Hat/Canny Cap

My autism is twitching.

Monster Masher and/or sending him through every single monster class to see what other monster classes you can unlock

did they ever put a dragonball reference in any of the games?

yeah
half of the characters are either goku or bulma, the other half are all yamcha

there's the MC's 100% tension mode in DQ8

other than that, not really, in fact, some of the DQ designs made cameos in Dragon ball

>just discovered press y in town to see store stock

DQ8 Hero's hair goes all spiky when you Psyche Up all the way to 100% Tension

>Hey Hero, that cow's a boy right? You can't get milk from a boy cow, can you?

Neat thanks

Which classes are the most stylish?

It looks like I think I'm missing the mini medals you apparently get after recruiting 14 monsters because I didn't get much change to recruit many monsters, and I had given up on looking for the monsters reformed human.

what does style even do?

Armamentalist

Mervyn looks great as one seriously.

Wait
the slot machines aren't all the exact same?!

>At least they made a tunnel that specifically leads straight to the save point
W-wait, what?

You get it from the reformed monsters whenever the haven changes

What's her name in the Japanese version? I want to search for her.

so is the "priest at the spirit statue" not this guy?

He's outside

Total time from start to defeating Disc 2 Orgodemir: 79:00. If you add in a few save scums at the casino, it's probably 84.

Man, Mayor Mayde wants me to marry Maribel, I can see it, but literally nearly every other woman on the planet is better than her. Fuck, even before bringing the islands back, her maid was higher on the list than Maribel. And now we have Euphonia, Maribel can't even compete.

Also, the priest at endgame proved that the hero wasn't adopted, but rather, the Almighty shoved whatever child was going to be born out so he could be born by Pollock's wife.

Where was Pike when I fought Orgodemir?

What was up with that giant plant thing right before the water amulet section?

No, he'll be outside and doesn't show up for a good while yet. Check back after the next island is cleared.

You sound like an ungrateful nephew. Pike you guys left and he came to clean up the scraps. The temple crumbling was actually the start of a new form.

I just sent a Gem Slime to monster meadows and now I can't find it to send it to a dungeon? Is this a bug?

>going back through the game to find medals I missed
>get to the cliffside pass where all the alltrade abby priests got sent during that hell
>go into the inn
>one of the people who's soul got stolen is still lying there in a coma and his girl is standing next to him crying because he won't wake up
Jesus

Am I the only one who thinks the present day King of Farraday did literally nothing wrong?

It's the whole point of the scene, bud.

is it just me, or does the framerate drop by a tiny amount when bosses die?

Will I always be really weak after changing vocations? Should I just grind up a couple levels every time?

I did that what must have been five times in a row on the same set of stairs once. I wanted to kill myself.

I get framerate drops when I fight those giant priest things but otherwise everything has been pretty smooth

Changing vocations doesn't effect your level. Basic vocation skills always carry over.

>Game tries to make me feel sad for some mechanic sex doll that may or may not have a soul

Yeah Farraday King was in the right and everyone else is retarded

>that may or may not have a soul
It says "THANK YOU" if you talk to it after saving it

I get framerate drops whenever I choose which enemy to attack

I mean vocation levels, not character levels.
When I first changed vocations, most of my stats dropped.

Do you have the enclosure it goes to?

I only get framerate drops when using the menu or during the bandit battle after alltrades

Vocation levels don't effect your stats*, every vocation has set stat modifiers. You probably went to something with garbage stat modifiers like Priest or Jester didn't you?

*Mastered vocations supposedly give some kind of bonus stat while you stay as that vocation, doesn't carry over to other vocations

there's blueprints all over the opposite fucking room in that bungalow

what a retarded prince

>go back to wetlock to find the Haven dude I~m supposed to conscript
>Prof. Wade lost his nice hat
Where can I find his hat

>Jester
do they even do anything in this game? I know that in III they had Sage access when they hit 20

Still no proof of soul

You need em to unlock Luminary (and thus, Druid)
Also Tongue Bashing is pretty useful

Don't be a fag

>We need a humanoid robot to make our own.
>What about this maidbot with the scrubbed-off nameplate? You know, the kind of maidbot some citizens have said they wanted AND is definitely not a warbot, which you have said you did not want to make?
>No fuck that take the one trying to feed the skeleton, tell it we have soup.
Also
>LATER
>Orgodemir makes all of Faraday vanish
>Robots gone too
>Skeleton gone
He was very thorough, it seems. Didn't want to risk that soup bringing Autonymous back.

The real question is how did the fat guy was able to fix ELLIE, while the other researchers didn't even have an idea what ELLIE was.

there is supposed to be a reformed monster in a casino? But it apparently it hides into pots. I went to the casino on the All trades Abbey and I didn't see a big pot. Or is it the very late game casino?(Buccanham)?

What characters make the best magic users, aside from Maribel?

Dragon Quest more like Drag-On Quest amirite

some parts of IX certainly felt that way at least[\spoiler]

He was descended from the original guard captain guy. They had been protecting ELLIE for generations.

MC and Mervyn are pretty good at it too

MC and Mervyn are good at everything

pot guy isn't in a casino though...

Yeah, but I thought he was some kind of a soldier/captain, and not a mechanic?

I'm charging my 3ds, but the lady npc mentioned "casino"

Who says you can't learn to do both? He just had to replace one missing part, they probably had it laying around from one of the other robot invaders from during the war.

>do chimera
>all that time just to learn flame breath

well fuck-a doodle doo

also I really like that ripple cutlass, hopefully there's a toy of it somewhere (pic related, action figure is uolding Dragon Quest Legend Items Gallery weapons).

Just play more of the game, you'll know the big pot when you see it

Because you recruited her from a casino you dumbass. You'll see the big pot she was actually talking about later.

its a robot with a monster power source aka soul

>if something doesn't have a soul it doesn't deserve to live

what a small minded person you are

Well I think I'm pretty "far" into the game. I put over 80 hours and I haven't beaten the boss of the game yet. But I'm stupid as fuck so it takes me ages to finish a place and move on to something else. Characters are in the mid 40's.

There is a side quest to get it there

It's a slave which makes soup for a long dead weirdo who painted it pink and named it after his ex girlfriend

Rip that shit up for the good of your kingdom nigger

Damn nigga I beat the final boss in the mid 30's. About 80 hours played total though, that was with a lot of fucking about in the Casino and shit too.

The clockmechs are magic robots, no amount of reverse engineering would let them build a humanoid

And how do I get it there

HEY!

... It was already pink when he found it.

They'd never know unless they tried

automanous or whatever said that the robots only worked because of the assumed demon power source

I was thinking of making Ruff a monster masher as his final class but I'm having doubts, what did you guys make him or plan to have him as? I was thinking paladin since his speed is good for healing. I know most people make him hero/champion but I want to try to have one persin per class, makes them more unique that way.

well I might have over grinded almost every islands and I went into the Metal Mannequin tablet at the Haven which levelled up my characters really high.

The Hero already knows that so why not save the chucklefucks the effort and embarrassment?

Automanous never even managed to turn himself into a robot who cares what that hack thinks

I'm sending him through a bunch of Monster classes and seeing what I get. Still fucking working on Prism Peacock.

>tfw you discover how his gf died
It sucks he lost her but he's totally autistic, dude needs to get laid.

Yeah so far I have heal slime, jawtoise, and berserker mastered for him, do people use prism peacock as a final class for him?

Dropped that nigger out of my party as soon as I could.

ten thousand lines of dialogue and it all boils down to OOGA BOOGA WHERE THE FOOD AT

People give Aishe shit for being bland but Ruff is far worse

Ruff is fucking adorable

My goal goal is to get either Esterk or Platinum King for Ruff eventually.

I did Jawtoise on him and now I'm doing Prisim Peacock for permanent Scorch but holy hell it's been taking forever to level. I'm in the postgame and only finally hit 6 stars on it.

I like him, his design is more like earlier DQ and is a bit goofier. Also seeing the wolf in costumes is adorable.

Back off nigga
Ruff and his observations on normal people things are fantastic

Ruff totally wanted to give her the D, didn't he

oh absolutely.

My end goal*

Who wouldn't?

>not wanting a simple minded dogbro on your side at all times

>Pink baboon boss OHKOs Maribel with his multifist

What do

Cat > shitty doge 2bh.

My memory is really bad. What's the town again with the pot?

Please kill yourself, Ruff is best character.

>He literally calls her a friend
Stop. Ruff is not for lewd.

I feel bad for Ruff's adoptive mom, she has to put up with a lot of shit.

well she got to learn how to breathe fire so it's not all bad.

desert town

>make him monster masher
>he currently is the mob killer with Scorch
>don't want to change his class anymore
What do

mamma mia

>OOGA BOOGA WHERE THE FOOD AT

sounds like a true bro, fuck all this bullshit lets eat

>cats ever

Euphonia also call the hero her friend, and look where that ends up.

Fun fact, Ruff/Foze (her name on the Japanese version) is a thing in Japan.

Get Buffed

She's just desperate and thirsty, that's different. Ruff is pure.

Well that's Japan.