Princess Maker 2 Refine

IT'S OUT GET IN HERE

store.steampowered.com/app/523000/

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mediafire.com/file/s8k2o6mqt9drbt1/Wonder_Project_Series_+_Extras.zip
mediafire.com/file/8845p9a86yyausx/Wonder_Project_Series_+_Extras.rar
spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/pm2refine/
spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/princessmaker2/
princessmaker.eu/games/princess_maker_2/faq__zakonczenia_cd4
youtube.com/watch?v=DyofWTw0bqY
behindthename.com/random/
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tZJKZjpx-vz2T3ZfVBhaaYyFlZCQK36F1bYsSVUOy9Y
youtube.com/watch?v=gcog81DNeT0
youtube.com/watch?v=o9iNTqk1bUA
youtu.be/GjuoGn_IiyA
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Already bought and downloading it now....

Already played it 20 years ago
And this version looks like shit

Never quite managed to raise my little girl to become a professional dominatrix.

So here's to second chances, I guess.

>Plasterer
>Illegal bar
>Favorite Mistress
What was wrong with mason, sleazy bar and concubine?

Mehhhh

Time to play it for the hundredth time. Anyone know how to skip the intro in this version?

Played it like 10-15 years ago.
I don't see anything particularly wrong with it, what's your trouble?

Also, is the "Gainax" mentioned in the video the Gainax everyone would probably think about at first?

>Lewd taken out

No thanks.

Eh, pretty much mean the same. I guess they retranslated from japanese ? Is there some glaring changes tho ?

Yes. Why would it be a different Gainax? PM5 has some Eva cosplay costumes as well.

Yes, it is the same studio.

Last I heard it wasn't, Refine always had the nipples removed from a choice few CGs if that's the problem for yiu.

Way I understand it, this is a new translation done by CFK, who apparently don't have a lot of in-house native English speakers.

*you

Can't type today.

I hope they hire actual translators.

My trouble is whats the fucking point
Just play the original

In hopes of translations for further games.

Did they remove anything?

Look at the top of her head!

Came to respond to say this, no nipples allowed

>Doesn't have the PC98 nice old pixel colours anymore
>replaced with a lazy ugly mess

I'm not buying unless there's an option to put the old graphics back

How is plasterer worse than mason?
Based on this image though, I think its safe to say they explicitly changed "sex appeal", but at least its better than "charisma" from the old translation.

>fgt skill
>fgt rep
Seems this version is for faggots. Also the font sucks and, since is Steam, I'll bet my arm they remove the nudes.

the Refine version never had nudes

>Unironically paying money for the SJW butchered version of game
What the fuck happened with Cred Forums?

(you)

Is the daughter naked below those clothes like in the original game? This is super important for me!

Pls respond

You can get her naked?
how

is this download safe?

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looks legit

So, this versions looks like shit and Gainax died years ago.

I'll rather mail 15 bucks to the eggsoft dude.

"More like this"
store.steampowered.com/app/515040/?snr=1_5_9__300

Fuck off, retard
People like you ruining gaming

I think that worked simply by unequipping clothes.
It's been too long, though, I don't clearly remember.

Well both are management sims I guess

stop shilling that shit , degenerate

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In the original you could:
- Wear the undress dress
- Delete or rename the clothes file
- making your daughter wear a 16+ dress and then lower her age

good little stupid goyim

Enjoy being a literal retard

Enjoy giving money to western jews, you are the biggest retard possible.

No, you couldn't
You could do it only in the hacked version

Is this the GAINAX DOS game?

>I don't clearly remember.
It was a cheat (adding one word or sentence in a file IIRC).

see

You seem to be obsessed with jews. Do you need help or something?

>and Gainax died years ago.
What are you talking about? They are still alive and Akai is the creator of the franchise so he is going to get some money from this.

Koreans have right on the franchise
And by the way they made pretty good games, better than any western knock-off at least

is the nudity still in?

Waiting for patches then.

Refine never had any nudity.

Yes, you could get her naked in the DOS game, the daughter was naked under her clothes afterall. Why are you lying?

Some images of what is going to be the backgrounds for the game.

>translating sin as karma
Blasphemy!
Well, it's no big deal. But really, considering it's not as good.

That said. I am off to get all the endings again to platinum this thing.
Should I go full tomboy or full refined lady for my first daughter?

Tomboys are the best, so you know what you must do.

>game is rated mostly negative on steam
absolute blunder

You had to cheat to do it.

Just looking at the OP picture would have been enough to tell that.

Make her take up your mantle and make her the strongest, bravest heroine. If her refinement has to suffer, so be it.

These images are from the JP strategy guides and manuals. Want that background bad though.

>2 chinese reviews, 2 korean reviews
I dont understand what the fuck those square boxes are saying

>that twelvehead

How bad is the translation?

Doesn't look censored to me.

Not terrible. Fonts are weird though

Yeah, again, the only thing removed from Refine was the nipples. Nothing else.

Looks like I prefer the old translation. Hopefulyl it can be patched with a fan patch.

That said I always actually wanted to play refine. This way I'll get both.
I am still pretty sad by how Steam is basically the only thing dominating PC though. I'd have loved a physical copy of Princess Maker. But nope, this industry is digital only at this point. It's bullshit. But at the very least I am getting the game so I am happy.

Hopefully they're doing Princess Maker 3 next. That would be my GotY for sure.

>playing now: 0
>today's peak: 1
>all time peak: 1
IT'S OVER, WAIFUS ARE FINISHED

WE DID IT, MEN.

The only thing removed was nipples, and that was done in the Japanese version that's been since 2004.

Her shitty hair drives me insane

>I'd have loved a physical copy of Princess Maker. But nope, this industry is digital only at this point
It was worse with books tho.

Can't you change the font? the old one looks better.

Pretty sure he thought everything was removed.

Remind me about this when we get some decent mods

Does anyone know if refine took out the scene from the original, where if you lost to bandits I think, it was implied you were raped?

>Hopefully they're doing Princess Maker 3 next. That would be my GotY for sure.

You sure about that? PM3 is kind of.. eh. Though your daughter being so moody is an interesting change from 2. I do hope they translate it though, I'd love to play it in English for once.

>the only thing removed from Refine was the nipples. Nothing else.
Are you sure about that?

The selling points of the remakes were the considerably expanded color ranges and the higher resolution.
And those are the versions that were the most successful by far. Since the above actually used to be a really big deal.

Why would you ever expect them to localize the DOS versions?
The remakes are the versions being sold in Japan. And they're the versions being brought over to the west. You'd have to search pretty hard to find a legitimate copy of the DOS versions since they remade them.

they like to pretend refine is its own original game.

Are you really acting like there's something to censor aside from the nipples? You know as well as I do the daughter is like a barbie doll and there's nothing going on in the pussy region.

It's a shame Refine does not have that. Seeing the daughter naked was so nice.

You might as well post the Hot Coffee mod for GTA. It's about as legitimate.

Just in case mods get triggered.

You never know.

I don't understand.

>there's nothing going on in the pussy region
Chubby 13 or 14 yo almost have a vagina.

You're a real dipshit aren't you?

>tfw steam doesn't even have the wings over vietnam patch yet
why even bother making a princess?

How the hell does she marry the Demon Lord before even meeting him?
And how is she 14 before she turns 11, 12 or 13?

Dunno maybe they cheated to check stuff. I'm going to cheat and check the Mistress ending to help Cred Forums confirm if the game's uncensored.

maybe devs testing or something

Git gud

>not having your daughter marry the demon lord at age 14 before meeting him
>experiencing time as a linear scope
I already laughed at you before you posted in the first place

it's complicated

Isn't that only via debug tho ? As in : you're not even supposed to have that ?

Is it 16:9?

The gook reviewer is complaining that you can't shift+tab to access the Overlay because when you press tab the game is minimized and the screenshoot shortcut doesn't work. He could try to use another button to test.
Also, he is complaining that the game has no support for widescreen monitors and that he didn't like the genre of the game.

>tomboys
Time to have her chop wood every day to that she can bring in a decent sum of money while growing to be the strongest there ever was so that I can have her beat up the god of war.

I assure you it isn't dolphin porn.

You don't need to be in steam to play game
Steam lists only achievements you got while being logged
Here, solved mystery

>and that he didn't like the genre of the game
Just refund it dude. No need to leave a negative reply.

>Menus: The Game
Fuck off shills

>and that he didn't like the genre of the game.

Why is this a thing that continues to happen in reviews? Has the world not learned from Double Dragon Neon? A man got payed for that shit.

But you can actually adventure and fight and shit.

Nice forehead

Those abbreviations are so shit.

Why would I want to know my Faggot Reputation?
Who the fuck is my HKP Representative? Was he elected, or appointed by the king?

>sending your daughter out into the wilderness
Stop it you monster

>achievement
>Lord of darkness
>Your daughter met the Demon Lord.
sweating man.jpg

Is your PERSONAL (period) at max, girl?

>not training your daughter to be a commando tactical operator adventurer killer of stuff
I know what I'm doing if I'm ever a dad.

People assume all the debug options were supposed to be in the final release. It actually makes me wonder if this debug dress was actually in the retail release of the Japanese version or not.

How the fuck do you get anywhere in the game if you try to ignore farm and the bundles of money that gives?

looks like your FGT SKL is at max

>It actually makes me wonder if this japanese PC game with little girls had nudes in the retail version
user please.

>I know what I'm doing if I'm ever a dad.
Good luck. Hopefully you won't need it.

>he supports censorship

You can come a long way by just doing house work to raise constitution and maternal skills, while also going to church and then compensating all other skills with monster drops from adventures.
It's been quite some time since I played the game though but I am going to try out the above right away.

I still don't understand people like him. He was also complaining about the price being high.

The debug mode was in the PC-9801, DOS/V and FM Towns versions, including the invisible dress (見えないドレス).

Thanks. A bit of luck is always welcome.

Hmm is there a way to skip dialog?

Those choices of words are shit, too.
Karma & Glamour (in fact, Glamour is better), I can understand the change, but that's it.
Temperament was in fact a more accurate word for the stat, both in how it's gained and what benefits from it.
You're not learning "speech" at a bar. It's conversational skills.
Refinement/Elegance aren't the same thing, and you were clearly learning the former.

Also, how do you abbreviate "Social" down to anything but "SOC." We actually fucking use that on a regular basis.

inb4
>sensitivity
>700

Nah, I'd rather laugh at that art skill.
Girl's doomed to a shitty future.

She's going to run away from you, daddio.

>ART SKL 185
Enjoy your obligatory dancer/painter/whatever

Housework doesn't raise stamina.

bought it
if we start getting the rest of the princess maker series in english on steam because of this, holy shit.

also everyone needs to shut up about censorship. this is the later version in japan with increased resolution and voice acting, which also tried to make the game appeal to non-pedos.

>implying dancer isn't top tier

Yeah, got the art ending too just because I won one of those master brushes.

Girl could've been a high magician but she'd rather choose such a boring profession.

>Metric height and weight

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Sell that shit for cash.
Only the sword will trigger negative events.
Or grind in the city to raise your combat reputations.

Remember dads - never expose your daughter to art if you don't want her to waste her life. It's child upbringing AIDS, just one fling and it's there with you forever.

But I want her to work as a plasterer.

>a girl you bring up decides to fuck demons
good or bad ending

>If you're a shit dad who lets her get beat up by giant birds & wolves & shit, she'll marry your puerto rican-looking demon butler

ARE YOU DOING THIS TO GET BACK AT ME!?

>Elegance
>Glamour

>this happens yesterday
>goddess comes in and says im shit and she probably made a mistake.

I'm never gonna let her marry that manlet butler.

Fuck that little cunt.

>Morality
>Faith

Have you married her yet Cred Forums?

Glamour was an improvement.
Changing Refinement was retarded.

And?

SJWS ON SUICIDE WATCH.

I gotta do it once for the achievement.

Eric Bana simulator
Hanna as fuck

>that trading card

hes probably commenting its odd morality and faith are considered different.

>Can't raise conversation until halfway into the game
>Doing it is pretty much assured to drop your intelligence to 0
>The fast way of raising it back up will drop Mag Defense to 0
>The way to raise THAT back up is to use the unacceptably slow way of rasing intelligence

This shit requires some serious min/maxing planning.

Give some pocket money?

Since it lowers her stress by a shitton, yeah. If she has less than 50 stress, nah.

Kind of depends on the demon.

If it's Cube then, what the hell is my daughter doing marrying the help?

If it's the Prince of Darkness, then it's a solid match that will do her good in the future.

Bit surprised that one group haven't gone ballistic over these threads.
Is it too much of a game for them?

I'm pretty sure anyone who cared played this shit 3 million years ago on DOSbox.

>imperial

It's pretty much THE way to mitigate stress early on.
It gets more expensive as the years pass & newer jobs pile the stress on even harder, though. So you'll need to find certain other ways to handle it.

Pic related.

>he desperately wants to see nipples from a game that's probably older than he is

Why is she even asking me what I think about her breasts?

She means her forehead.

She just wants to know if you think she might be a little too fat. That, or she has too much "Charisma" or whatever it's called in this translation that she's thinking about what boys think of her.

Can you still beat up a muslim who announces that Allah is his shield before he fights?

Why are faggots getting up in arms about the possible existence of loli nipples and not that

>Not a perfect hourglass figure

Failure of a daughter.

Not on console that's why.

She's clearly talking about her breasts here though. I didn't remember the game being so lewd. I'm getting some weird boners now.

Conversation is one of those skills you'll cap with 4-5 months of work at the bar anyway.

I played the old version recently, and she did mention her bust size at a young age for some reason. Did you give her a buxomize pill already?

Not sure if he mentions Allah in this translation, but I don't recall any characters being taken out of Refine. I wouldn't start a Holy Crusade against the Koreans if they just put it as God, though.

>complains about her small bust
>give her two of those
>"I think my bust is getting too big
REEEEE

She wants you to drug her with shady pills you get from street merchants.

>pedoshit
how did this make it to steam?

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Not really. Guessing it's a fixed conversation and I'm ok with it.

seek help pedoscum
memeing about pedophilia doesn't make it ok

>YFW she dies

Seeking help by fucking your little sister right now.

What are you gonna do about it?

But it's a fun game.

better then most of the weeb shit that's getting flooded on steam

I legitimately just want her to find a good husband. I don't sexualize her.

How's this different than raising a kid in a Sims game?

>responding seriously to obvious bait

I am going to buy it and never play it, like most of my games.

What about Princess Maker 1?

This. Olive Oyl is not for sexuals.

She's just concerned about if the other girls might end up bullying her for her figure one way or another or why the boys stare at her.

She'll grow more confident in time unless you mess up.

>game is a raising simulator
>it has a little girl as a start
>instantly gets called pedoshit

yeah i bet you think parenting is considered pedoshit

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so what is your other favorite simulation games

mine is webm related

>people keep posting about the nipple and beach scenes
ok

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Which animation studio worked on those games? It kind of looks like Gainax's style.

>Godess: Why did you raise your daughter as a whore?
For the steam achievements.
>Godess: The what?

>only reads what he wants to read
>surprised to read the same two topics

sauce pls

Is that that N64 game?
Oh, I see, it is.

I actually have it physically (got it dirt cheap second hand), but haven't really managed to get into it.
Would you recommend giving it another go?

Wonder Project J2, I think is the one with the girl.

Why does raising sims have such a stigma in the west?

Even pet/animal raising games are ignored by developers and consumers alike for the most part.

mediafire.com/file/s8k2o6mqt9drbt1/Wonder_Project_Series_+_Extras.zip

this has both of the games, along with other stuff like fanart, doujins and some other shit

yeah there is a english translation since 10 years ago so ill say give it a shot

Japanese is no problem for me.

That said, thanks for the heads-up.

thanks based user

Because the west is full of hypocrites.

They like to condemn Japan for releasing games supposedly pandering to pedos while ignoring the fact that the sexual crimerate involving minors in their own country will always be higher than Japans.

Kill yourself SJW. Loli is not pedophilia.

I still can't help but wonder if Princess Maker 2 wouldn't have sold better if they had bundled it with Princess Maker 1. Considering that Princess Maker 1 would at the very least be a new experience than Princess Maker 2 for all the people that already played the abandonware beta. Hopefully it won't need it though.
Princess Maker 1 by itself though? Princess Maker 1 will probably be a hard sell. Princess Maker 2 is superior in just about every way.

I wonder if they will localize 3 or 1 next.

>tfw Daughter is cute as a button
>and also a fucking death machine

don't start that topic here user, please all I want is a comfy PM2 thread

This is what I was thinking.

Bundle 2 together with 1, don't go overboard with the price, deliver a proper translation and you'll have plenty of people spreading the word.

Thanks, cool dude.

>supposedly
how many boy raising sims have you played?

So, how is it?

kek this was my first game and she was invincible and ended up as a wood chopper...

Translation is meh but other then that it plays like it should. Chinese language option is fucked though

KYS PEDO SHIT

Stop shitposting with pictures of my wife.

A faithful port of Refine. It runs well. The translation isn't great but it's not really bad either. Things could have been translated better but I am not seeing any real inaccuracies. So it's good.
If the future titles could be translated better that would great, but if they would be at least this good I would still end up an incredibly happy man.

Not sure what's going on with the file but it seems to be fucked.

Tried redownloading, didn't help.

Sounds like a whitewashed translation, a shadow form of censorship that people somehow find more acceptable.

How disappointing.

I'd like a new game like that but even more deeper in terms of customization and possibilities.

Use 7zip instead of BUY MY SOFTWARE.

same result

All I could do is updating it.

I was never able to beat the "adventure" part of this game.

Like Princess Maker 3, 5, and to a lesser extent 4?

Damn, that sucks. Not sure what your computer's issue is, but the zip file worked for me.

The adventure part has bosses, tons of special events, and all kinds of cool shit. I was really surprised when I first got into it.

Well fuck me, I though it stopped to 3.

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Grind farming, Woodcutting, and Mason while doing some of the combat classes and buy a leather armor with a knife. That's how I ended up doing it.

Princess Maker 5 is really great when it comes to all that. Probably along the lines of what you were thinking of.
I really hope they end up localizing it.

Farm Farm Farm Farm Farm
Kick log until your foot falls off
Pay the drunk to watch you swing a sword a bit
Buy dagger
Go forth & slaughter.

I'm extracting it again on a rar

so lets see if that helps

is there a way to mod in the proper undress art?

Refine didn't have it, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone out there did pictures for a mod like that. You'd have to modify the .dat files, though. Not sure if there's a Japanese mod out there already.

this version is double the res, it would look retarded

The translation in this version looks like shit.

Real talk. Does Princess Maker have an audience in the English speaking world?

I hope I am wrong, but I have a feeling I will be looking at steam spy or whatever in two weeks time and end up cursing the abysmal shit taste of the western audience once again.

*tips fedora*

Good question since this isn't the standard VN garbage you see released on Steam.

long live the queen sold ok because people expected princess maker

Your feeling is most likely correct.
Its release didn't even make Steam front page so no one will even consider buying it because they don't know it exists.

>I hope I am wrong
You're not unfortunately.

The west will always prefer some retarded multiplayer survival horror shit over real small gems.

mediafire.com/file/8845p9a86yyausx/Wonder_Project_Series_+_Extras.rar

extracted to a rar

hopefully it won't have problems

Well I bought it. Not sure how much I'll play given I've played the SHIT out of this, but it's nice to support something you loved a wee one.

Why the fuck did gooks feel oversized Courier New font was okay?

It sticks out like a sore thumb so bad.

What does this spirit mean by this?

Get all 53 achievements :^)

Speaking of those, anyone else kind of disappointed by them? I wanted one for Prince of Darkness ending or Father Marriage. Heck, the Hero ones would have been good, too.

My first thought was "they don't care about this series at all".
They probably acquired the license for chickenshit, hired some coworker who barely passed his English classes and released the game on steam WITHOUT ANY FUCKING MARKETING.

They were probably even too stupid to send out copies to obvious choices with big influence

I do hope the new release will cause some comprehensible guide to be released.

I wouldn't mind a magic hero daughter, but those requirements require some insane specific min maxing.

Also, I think it'd have been a better idea to release 3 first, which wasn't as easily accessible as 2 unreleased translated DOS version.

Worked this time around.

Thanks, man.

You culd suggest this game to Vinny or Joel from Vinesauce.

Like them or not, they have enough pull to warrant some interest.

yeah when i saw the number of achievements i was pretty surprised, until realizing a fuckton of them are just 'work at job z'. i would have preferred more ending achievements instead. the ending achievements they did include are of the 'marry x' type instead of 'raise daughter to become y' which would have been slightly more difficult to get.

Did refine fix that bullshit with the endings where you don't get flavor text with how well she does with her career if she gets a special marriage?

It always bothered me since that's usually the best part of the ending description (such as slaying an evil dragon posing as a king), but NOPE, you married the prince, so you never hear that part of the story.

Or some of the more hidden stuff like "beat the three outlaws" or stuff like that. I do like that they had the contests, though, and the conversation ones are kind of an achievement.

Ive played Long Live the Queen and thought it was ok but rather short is this game as interesting or fun?

LLTQ is bird poop compared to this

It's like if that game didn't kill you for not knowing falconry and mathematics.

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I haven't gotten this one because I don't like the ugly new art or shoddy new translation. I'm looking forward to 3 and 4 though.

>LLTQ without bullshit deaths
Well fuck me ill have to get this and go the Lu Bu build like I did in LLTQ.

LLTQ is more of a stat based Choose Your Own Adventure game with a surprising amount of historical, fictional lore involving magical girls.

This is basically what I would call a proxy RPG. Where you raise a character rather than improve yourself.

The one thing I disliked the most about this game is how all the extra income comes from YOUR daughter doing all the work while you only get an annual salary while sitting in your mansion doing fuck all.

The audience for Princess Maker in the west is in their early 30s. Teenagers won't get how great this is because they were born too late and lack paternal instincts.

as long as you realize you might not get 3 and 4 if 2 doesn't sell.

Except that they already said they're bringing them over.

How do I raise my Faggot Skill?

You can't, it's already at maximum level

By posting threads on Cred Forums

view pics of these majestic giant snakes everyday

>Its release didn't even make Steam front page so no one will even consider buying it because they don't know it exists.

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Just keep doing what you're doing.

Just needs some meme curators make lol so funny XD randumb reviews and it'll get their attention

Here's a simple question

Do you prefer the Original or Refine

A more recent PM might have a chance but PM2 feels really dated so I doubt it'll sell

I haven't bought Refine yet but I do think I'd prefer the original if only for the delicious pixel art.

That said, was there ever a site with sprite rips?

spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/pm2refine/

spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/princessmaker2/

spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/pm2refine/

Oh shit your daughter can get a tan in Refine? Nice touch.

Thanks. This will interesting to study.

Hm. The Refine sprites are technically pixel art, but the shading looks just too smooth and artificial.

>conversation ones are kind of an achievement
Not even close.
You can just go up to king on fresh start and get it.

>princessmaker.eu/games/princess_maker_2/faq__zakonczenia_cd4
rude!

>14 year old 43kg
>Too fat to fit into silk dress
This doesn't feel right.

>Shareware is the only rival who doesn't provoke my daughter to shove a fist down her throat
>My daughter wants to utterly destroy her, anyway

= (

Yeah, you don't even need to meet the actual requirements.
Just approach them, get blown off, POOF, ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED.

This is my fetish

Too bad you can't keep playing after the credits rolled

>people shitting so much on Refine
Sure I too preferred most of SoftEgg's translation choices. But shitting on Refine? Seriously?
>Non-upscaled higher resolution art
>More colours
>Runs on windows without emulation
>And dare I say, Refine has fucking VOICE ACTING
Is it really that hard to believe that Refine is the definitive version?

>>Non-upscaled higher resolution art
>>More colours
And yet it looks far worse, since it's just a cheap redraw of the original art.

Yes, it is.

They could've done it like Monkey Island SE use both the new and old assets.

>tfw finally met fairies

Do you mean the tattoo thing or the Queen of Hell thing?

>>Non-upscaled higher resolution art
Which is drawn worse than the original pixel art, yes

>Dirty yellow and brown haired ones
Uh oh.

>Eat a fairy
>Cooking skill goes up

>drawn worse
You think?

not him but queen of hell. And wikidude calls it a failure

Can you marry your daughter?

Yes!

Yes.

>No fairy nipples either
Dropped.

The requirements are stupidly specific though so it's one of the harder endings to get.

yes
it is a shit ending because it means you suck at raising your daughter

Yes.

shes not really your daughter she came from a magic sky wizard.

>it is a shit ending
for you

Refine only shows fairies nipples on the others 2 cgs and they're really faint.

They never had nipples.


You guys are really obsessed with nipples.

Well it hasn't even been out a full day and it's already in the most popular new releases and in the top seller list. I think that's good. I dunno I don't use Steam at all.

Dude this game totally had hardcore sex aswell and she sucks your dick. Damn cencorship!

Any torrent up yet?
I don't want to support censorship by buying it...

you are a fucking idiot

>Please pick a name for your daughteru!

FUCK ,why do I always have such trouble doing names

Has anyone uploaded the game?

Mariah

probably the nude option and the lewd clothes?

I know, right?
Took mine from a handful of lip balm ingredients by removing few letters.

>there are actually anons who want to put their dick deep inside their cute little daughter
If you're raising her to be anything but an upstanding member of society, you don't deserve to have a cute little loli to take care of.

The localizers haven't censored anything. It's a faithful port of what in Japan is considered the definitive version.

Olive Oly

The game is 100% uncensored. See Zero censorship.

She has canon name, retard

>Did they remove anything?
No.

>lewd clothes
No clothes were removed.
>nude option
Was never in the game to begin with.

>No clothes were removed.

Porting the censored version without censoring it further doesn't make it uncensored
Nipples and the ability to see your daughter without clothes has been removed

That's the DOS game.

Thanks mang
youtube.com/watch?v=DyofWTw0bqY

this problem haunts me in every fuckin game

I don't want my daughteru to get banged by a spinach abusing sailor tho

Don't make me raise you as a shit daughter(male) m8

That's a cheat that was never even officially in the game. The whole debug menu is a part of the beta and not even something you're supposed to be able to access.

Does the Olive Oly cheat still work on Refine? I gotta go to the bank and make a deposit before I can buy it so I can't test it out now.

i usually hate censorship but for fucks sake, the game was never designed to allow you to see your daughter nude. you had to CHEAT for that shit.

You're retarded. I've fapped many times to 10~12-year-old naked Olive, but I can say that the game is not "censored". However I do agree it was dumb of the japs to remove the nipples from the vacation cgs. But fact is in the end we're getting the same version as Refine in Japan.

>people unironically paid money for the butchered version and defend censorship
Cred Forums is doomed

>the ability to see your daughter without clothes has been removed
This was never a feature of the game. Never.
Fuck you people. Damn it, I don't even care about what you think but it's pretty annoying to see you people spread lies like this since some stupid people will actually believe you.

Fuck off, sjw shill

read the thread

This, the art style is so unappealing

its not censored because it was already censored hueheuh.

pls link torrent

>he doesn't raise his daughters to be sex slaves for himself
hmm

fuck off poltard

the game is doomed, the Steam forum is full of people thinking it's a degenerate loli porn game and Cred Forums is full of people saying it's censored butchered shit and to pirate the old DOS version instead. it's going to sell like ass and we'll never get any of the newer games.

Doesn't matter, PM5 is almost translated anyway.

source? if you're talking about the fantranslation hasn't that shit been dead for years?

If we're thinking of the same troll one, yes.

to be honest they should have done some fucking PR work. this was what, announced just last week and now I find out it's just been released despite it being announced for october.

it's already good enough that they got some coverage from major weeaboo sites, so i don't think it'll do badly.

behindthename.com/random/
never have another name-related issue again

While there is that audience on Steam, they might be put off by the lack of panties and requirement to think to get anything but shit ending.

>Trying to start shit
>Over motherfucking princess maker

Pick your battles, retards.

Wait, you can dust people? Shit, I need to make my daughter a wizard.

I don't support nipple mutilation.

>He doesn't have a name he uses for practically every female protagonist he plays

Is there an upload?

no we refuse

Buy it you broke ass bitch. Do you not want 3, 4 and 5? Sure they announced they were going to localize it but they can still change their plans if 2 sell like shit.

>-STRAT stat on equips reduces CBT SKL
QUALITY

I don't want a censored 3, 4 and 5 so I won't buy it in its current state

steam only = no buy
some of us have an image to maintain.

I don't support DRM platforms. If they want my money they can put it on GOG or somewhere else.

There's nothing to censor in those. Have you even played them?

3 was on the PS1 first, it never had the same lewdity of 1 or 2

Where do you think you are?

please stop being retarded accept you are wrong about this game being cencored
of course he didnt play them. I bet he thinks those are sex sims ala teaching feelings

> ask for upload
> why don't they make it available in non drm platforms?!!

why indeed.

And don't give me the "demo" shit, you've had decades to play the DOS version.

>GOG
GOG does not allow Japanese games on their platform.

i can't believe in the year of our lord 2016 that Cred Forums won't buy a game because it removed loli nipples while the rest of the gaming populace won't buy a game because you can raise a loli to marry her, see her naked ass on a beach vacation, see her swim nude (BUT NO NIPPLES), get her raped by bandits, make her a cabaret dancer, make her work at a bar where men will slap her ass, raise her up to be a BDSM queen or the king's concubine or a literal prostitute...

seriously niggers? you're upset over nipples when you can do ALL THAT? you can still put her in slutty outfits and make her boobs huge, you just can't use the debug mode only dress to see her barbie body!

16 bucks at a discount for a game I played to hell and back for absolutely free? Yeah no thanks. I'd rather just replay the classic version.

>too big

No such thing

>princess maker
Do you fuck kings and queens in this game?

>supporting censorship in any way

There's always something 'problematic' to remove if people keep buying it anyway

Just like there doesn't look like there are that many people buying it, there naturally don't seem to be all that many people sharing it.
But as with everything I am sure that it will end up just about everywhere in due time anyway.

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The localizers didn't remove anything. And Gainax hasn't remade a Princess Maker game since Refine.

Western sale means nothing to CFK. Their target market is Asia, hence the horrid translation. Those games are coming out regardless of if you or I buy the games.

>piece of shit pirate thinking people care about his opinion
Kill yourself.

PM4 true ending would be very "problematic" and "triggering" for Cred Forums
Your daughter leaves you for her real family after all

Blood Type A

>15 bucks for a worse version of a game I've already been playing for fucking decades

No.

But voice acting, user.

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>My very first encounter outside the town walls
>A supposedly kind old man, and complete stranger
>There's an "Attack" option
Oh my.

Nice

>Also, how do you abbreviate "Social" down to anything but "SOC."
Obviously, they didn't want you to think you were training her soccer skills.

It's actually a superior version.

Now we're talking

>gives you an achievement for starting the game
>gives you an achievement for talking to some random boy

Why is this game just throwing achievements at me?

Merchants give quite a bit of money if you kill them.
The problem is that eventually you get caught and your reputation is ruined, meaning you constantly flee from battle.

>the only thing that sets it apart from the dos version are the voices
Nope

Is there porn? Why you niggas so exited about this?

maybe some of enjoy video games, I don't know.

No it isn't.
>censored content
>worse translation
>smooth lifeless graphics instead of the original warm dithered ones

If voice acting is really important to you I could see why you'd think this one is better, but you'd be wrong and also a faggot.

did you consider getting your head out of your ass?

don't you also get a huge amount of sin? or karma in this version, i guess.

>some random boy
heh

That's not a random boy

Bruh, this game was my first wank.

It's pure nostalgia.

You can't release game without achievments on steam, xbox and ps3/4
Actually microsoft had best system because developers decided amount of achievments during 360 age
Sony and valve just came with arbitary numbers and developers can't put less than that

These abbreviations are fucking terrible. I knew gooks couldn't handle something like this.

>not getting excited for a loli raising sim

>get her raped by bandits
>raise her up to be a literal prostitute
No longer in the game

I assure you that you'll still take up 100% of the bathroom mirror.

Don't mind me, just playing the superior PM

>you will never be childhood friends with the warrior goddess daughter of the famed hero that saved the kingdom from the demon lord

>pirate
the game was freely distributed by the team that made the adaptation because the deal to release it failed
Ain't piracy bub

But you can still make her into a whore.

proof. Give me proof

It's sad how the translator just disappeared without a trace.

brunette >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ginger

Liar.

Why did censorship become such a fucking meme and topic of trolling?

>that hair
lmaoing @ her life

>random boy
Ah, ignorance is bliss.

Really? Is Steam that popular in gookland? Because I though they chose the Seam platform specifically because they were targeting a western audience.

Except one the vacations in Refine are actually the less censored of the original versions.

Its a raising simulator user you were gifted to raise a little girl to be anything you want her to be, but i guess Cred Forums just throws away the concept of parenting and just cares about if she has nipples or not

now i wonder what Cred Forums raising simulator will be like

Apparently it's 90% translated and I've spent almost all of yesterday manually overwriting all files from the site+the translated pictures.

I'll make sure to upload the patch folder if I don't encounter any problems.

There's no achievement for getting raped by bandits anymore

it is funny because that random child is the prince of the kingdom

Torrent when?

>company A makes game X
>company B licensed game X for localization
>license expires and is sold to company C for localization because company B went under
>staff of company B tries to distribute game X while company C holds license
>none of the distribution company B benefits the original creator, company A

It is piracy, no matter how much mental gymnastics they do.

I forgot how uninspired pm2 vacations were compared to the 4th game

how long is the game?

An afternoon.

Like 4 or 5 hours.

there are sprite rips from PM2 refine linked in this very thread with the prostitute ending art and the bandit rape art. you have no proof that the steam version is any different.

>that horrible sunbathing on the beach censorship dress thing
i remember that, it was so bad...

If dithering and nipples are really important to you I could see why you'd think that one is better, but you'd be wrong and also a faggot.

3 hours if you know what you're doing. I don't see it being over 10 hours at the very longest. It's just a kind of game that's replayed a lot of times to get different endings.

>it's 90% translated
That number really doesn't add up in practice. It's more, 90% of the scripts have been touched upon, but if you look at the actual break down it's anything but 90%.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tZJKZjpx-vz2T3ZfVBhaaYyFlZCQK36F1bYsSVUOy9Y

getting all the endings and all the secrets and trying out different builds and whatnot should provide dozens upon dozens of hours of gameplay. But it naturally depends on how much you like the game.

I'd personally call it a meaty game.

>anymore
That was never an achievement.

Any reason not to just play the original version?

This tbqh

Do you hate nipples?

Fuck off, shitposters.

No lesbian ending with Marthia

You had one job, Gainax.

Voiceacting, maybe cheevos, that's about it

Voice acting is only in Refine.

Higher resolution.
Higher color range.
More sprites (tans and stuff)
The game has voice acting.

How fucking anorexic do you need her to be to fit in a dress?

Oh I see, is the voice acting good?

Not 100% translated.
Occasionally, you'll get an "Error: TXT file not found" message.

Different thresholds for different ages and height. Taller is she is, the fatter she can be. Basically, though, she has to be really thin. You can have her wear the Cotton Dress if you NEED her in a dress like for the dancing contest.

>"Daddy, I have something really important to tell you!"
>[Error: TXT file not found]

As you'd expect from the Japanese.

I think some of the endings aren't fully translated too or really lazily translated because by that point they were already aware that the game they were working so hard on would not be released at all.

if you're having weight issues, take her on beach vacations in the summer months. avoid mountain vacations in the fall because the food is apparently really good and she gets fat.

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No need for DOSbox.

I'll never know what happens if I made a really good Prime Minister daughterfu...

You will now!

Japan has some weird obsession with associating fall with overeating.
I could be playing a rune factory game and suddenly everyone's like "HEY, IT'S AUTUMN! CAREFUL TO AVOID EATING TOO MUCH"
Dude. I'm not a bear preparing for winter.

Anybody got the Advent trading card yet? I don't remember an artwork using it being uploaded.

It's pretty good. The cinematics in particular have great voice acting.

It brings me back to when I was trying to merge SoftEgg's scripts with Japanese Refine just for the voice acting. And managed to do it to an extent but just couldn't do it to any notable extent without the game shitting itself on execution.
It's neat to finally be able to play Refine. I remember having been so jealous of Japan, not only having PM3, PM4, and PM5, but to also have had a superior version of PM2 which was what I was playing.

15 year, 147 and 44.
Gotta keep that in mind for next.
Yeah, wouldn't that normally be december?
All that ham and what have you.

I believe she can also wear the Matchless Robes regardless of weight. It's not like there's much of it to fit into anyway.

'Course, you need to scratch together 4000G for that one.

>You can't release game without achievments on steam
The other 2 is true but there are still many games with no achievements on steam. Devs just add them in because there's a large subset of people who won't buy games without them.

>2 refine has been available since 2004 in Japan
I'm surprised it took this fucking long for an official English release.

How do you equip accessories in this game?

I just bought my daughter the book but I'm not sure how to use it.

Just keep them in the inventory.

harvest festivals and thanksgiving.

youtube.com/watch?v=gcog81DNeT0

"I'm so happy! I'm a very lucky woman"
"Unable to locate file EETN01.TXT"
"SYSTEM ERROR"

Clearly, our new Prime Minister was too distracted by marriage to keep track of her files, and ruined the whole system & plunging the country into chaos.

Then what are the 3 extra blue slots next to the weapon and armor slots for?

From what I can tell those are there to show debuffs like sickness.

Statuses. One of them notifies you when she's Delinquent, I think one for when she's Sick, and I don't know the last one. I'm guessing it's when she runs away.

If you want the newer games to get localized and released pirating this certainly won't help.

Do note though if you ever decide to get her a doll then sell it, she gets hit with the 40stress.

Oh okay thanks.

What kind of father sells his daughter's fucking doll?

One that thinks she's not had nearly enough D's on her tests.

The kind who thought they could get away with a bit of minmaxing.
Though not sure what minmaxing plan that fits in.

I have never felt a stronger nostalgia than listening to the season music

youtube.com/watch?v=o9iNTqk1bUA

I actually played this game a few years after it came out, and thought that I was some special lperson that I knew about such an unusual title,

now here we are again, and it still holds up in spite of being copied for 20 years

I want this game, but I also have IRL friends on Steam [/spoiler]and I usually hide my power level prety well, what do?

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Fake dying and your sister taking your account.

B-B-But C-C-CENSORSHIP!!

Yeah just say your sister sometimes uses your account.

Holy shit a nipple! :O

I'm not sure why people still think the game is censored when there's a literal 12-year-old NAKED ASS in the game.

DELETE THIS

Think of the children!

Just buy it on a second account.

Is this better than long live the queen?

so many assblasted shills.

This sounds different than when it plays in the game for some reason. I like it.

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Because there isn't a debug hack that lets you access things that were never meant to be in the original game. Censorship.

I CAN'T EVEN LOOK AT THE NIPPLES THROUGH THIS OTHER BITCHES FOREHEAD

THEY ALL HAVE INSANE FOREHEADS

WHY

How did no one stop the artist?!

what is wrong with you?

Oh fuck me I'm an idiot. He's using a specific soundcard for it, or emulating one. Shit like this sounds amazing here but less good in-game when I play it: youtu.be/GjuoGn_IiyA

>no age verification.
DROPPED.

It got worse in PM3.

Just ignore him. Most of this board is filled with teenagers that have never heard of the series so when they see a thread about a game they know nothing about they can't help spouting buzzwords.

>no torrent for this or gal gun

Did weebs stop pirating things?

Yes.

Princess Maker is more freeform, has more varied endings and isn't nearly as ludicrously lethal.

Unless you like games that just keep killing you over and over again, in which case Long Live the Queen is better.

>if you ever decide to get her a doll then sell it
Dear lord! Selling your child's precious? Never, ever!
Children bond with that kind of stuff to incredible extents. It'd be like selling an actual friend.
That ought to be criminal.

why are you responding to yourself?

Gal gun is up on extra torrent i believe user.

Both games are using Denuvo

btfo

Long Live The Queen was a game in and out of itself so I was able to enjoy it for what it was.
But I was sold on the idea on it somehow being like Princess Maker, and it most certainly is not. So I was disappointed in it.

user. There's a princess. That LITERALLY makes it the same.

I love you user

Oh, thanks

Yeah I don't think so

>Buxomize Pills
>11 years old
jesus christ

no homo

She's probably been in puberty for at least 3 years by then. If not longer.

funnily enough, satan is one of the best ways to increase stats

It's on nyaa too. I'm downloading it because the publishers are pricks sell overpriced joke DLCs.

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Was the debug hack even in the Japanese DOS version anyway?

>extra torrent
Hopefully it's not the fucking smartsteam version

If you're talking about the $99 DLC, those were meant to be jokes. You can unlock the same items just by playing the game without having to spend any money on DLC.

>ELEGANC.
>Faith
>Karma

Did they ever heard about consistency

That's because he's a bro.

MOM'S GONNA FREAK!

Does the Shogun fap to loli?

I think that's likely user. IGG tend to use smartsteam pretty often.
What's wrong with it?

he doesnt

>worse
You mean better! She's the cutest daughter!

>answering a rhetorical question
Shit dude, you are both wrong and retarded.

i answerd it because the answer you intended is wrong

And here is the amount of gold I have after 3 runs killing harpies in the desert.

Maria is the cutest. Shame the game is so lacking.

dem thighs

>wrong
>retarded
>calls a cheat "hack"
>no capitalization nor punctuation
I feel bad for your parents.

Adventuring is too op

You mean CONSTNCY.

I got that kind of money just working at the Graveyard.

And beating up the skeleton knight.

She's not so bad with the hair down look, but they like to put her hair up in other games which makes her look like a witch.

I'll admit that she is pretty cute. But Lisa is still the cutest!
They're all so cute!

I thought you could only beat skel knight once

But to even get the cheat you need a hacked version of the game you dolt.

There are several RotK and Nobunaga's Ambition games that only have Chinese language releases on Steam.

But the stress?

>Having your daughter attend a single dance party absorbs an entire month of her life

WAT

Yeah, but that one time is really profitable.

Look, that Magic Defense isn't gonna raise itself.

>working at the Graveyard

>Killing criminals while adventuring, looting their possessions in the process. Getting rich.
>Work at the graveyard to bury them yourself. Getting rich.
What a violent life.