GUILTY GEAR XRD -REVELATOR- PATCH 1.04

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Some interesting things to note
>Millia 6K hurtbox added
>Pot damage increase on air moves. j.D has ground bounce on CH
>new combo routes for Axl, Ram
>Johnny Mist Finer level 1 low is unblockable instead of stagger if it hits standing block with bacchus sigh
>Dizzy tension gain on most of her specials, bigger hitbox on bubbles

And others. Sol, Ky, May, Zato, Chipp, Faust, I-no, Jack-o, Kum Haehyun are unchanged.

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>slight bedman nerfs

why?

>May unchanged

At least they didn't nerf her best asset

Just number changes. Nothing too serious.

>new combo routes for Axl
excuse me?

>combo memorization simulators
How about you learn to play a real game like Melee before you start posting on Cred Forums?
>>>/reddit/

>c.S: Gatling route to 3P added

>Still no armor for Undertow with Slayer
That move is so useless. It's not even as cool as it used to be either. They're also really trying to make Helter Skelter good aren't they. I only really find it useful online. Offline I usually get my ass punished when I try to use it for Oki.

damn, that is ripe for potential

>>Johnny Mist Finer level 1 low is unblockable instead of stagger if it hits standing block with bacchus sigh
Pretty interesting. I've never seen anyone really use low lvl1 MF so it's a neat thing to add.

>implying Melee isn't a combo memorization simulator
Hypocrite that you are

>playing nuguiltygear
Fucking cuckolds, go away and stop scavenging off corpses that deserve more respect

2/10 not enough buzzwords.

>a game that doesn't revolve around building up combo and super meters
>a game with a mechanic as based as DI
>combo memorization simulator
Fuck off

>combo meter
A post that revolves around having never played any games

Different combos for situations and weight class of course. Most of the fun comes from neutral and Oki play imo.

Melee is ok, i just wish they took the stock count from 4 to 3. 7 per minutes match is kinda ridiculous. Also playing a game like that with a gamecube controller is kinda doing yourself a disservice, its already been proven that arcade pads in melee are far more optimal and easy on the hands.

>Johnny nerfed again

When will it end

probably when hes not SSS+ Tier anymore

>dem dizzy buffs

These changes are pretty minor.

W H E N

He got unblockable BF back, if only on one version of it.

Will they fix the PS3's fucked up online? It's a pain to fight online now on it.

is it weird if i find jam's voice and moans hot?

Dunno what happened. Can't get any games

I need porn of the valentine sisters. Revelator warmed me up to them, especially with as soon as they reunited you could see they never once let go of each other's hands a

it would be weird if you didn't

Avatars disappear randomly, connecting hell, infite searchings, it got really awful after the last update. I have to quit the game quite often now cuz it gets locked all the time on online mode.

What does her bacon grease taste like?

Cred Forums help me out, I can't find my main so give me a boost.

>Axl
>Chipp
>Kum
>Leo
>Ram
>Sin

which one?

If you don't give any examples of what type of characters you play in other games or are interested in general of, then it's basically going ot be like throwing darts blindfolded.

You know Sol went balls deep in that once she woke up. Poor El, she'll never get fucked. Her sister will never get fucked either because Sin's way to young to know about that kinda thing, I can only hope that Ky and Dizzy keep their coitus down as well

What you're exactly looking for in character?

Do you prefer mid/long/close range?
Do you prefer frametraps or okizeme?
Do you want to meme them to death or safe options on every opportunity?

sf3trirdstrike: oro
sf4: gouken
sfv5: alex
Kof14: Bandeiras, dino, Mian

Why didn't I buy this game when it was on sale! FUCK

Sin. Braindead simple, but still strong and gives no fucks about anyone.

At least El and Ram have each other and Miss Confire...

>Do you prefer mid/long/close range?
mid
>Do you prefer frametraps or okizeme?
I like both
>Do you want to meme them to death or safe options on every opportunity?
Playsafe

What characters would classify as having lots of safe options?

Leo has those then.

Sounds good, I like his design and personality and playstyle

Got any cool leo pics to share?

>Sin's way to young to know about that kinda thing
He could ask Sol where babies come from, though I bet Sol would just throw a porno mag at him and say "you do the math".

Leo is for you

If you're going to feel that he's too slow, there's also Kum. She's a bit faster and in general better in offensive but doesn't have really good options under pressure

In general characters that doesn't have to worry so much about failed mixup attempt and can safely go back to playing neutral game.

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So kinda like Ky, Sin or raven?

Yeah exactly. Especially Raven

Delet this

Minor changes all around. Johnny is still the best.

Dizzy got some needed buffs, but from what I'm hearing the buffs that she got weren't what Dizzy players actually wanted.

Any GOOD Dizzy players here? Is that correct?

no
someone post more hot leo stuff

You already have Sol for bara niche
Leo is pure

i see thou art a fag

All Leo players are

I'M TURNING GAY

I wanted to say something nice about Zidane but.. yeah

He's been rambling like an old man for quite some time. Being top 8 in EVO is truly great achievement but he should stop acting like such a dick.

sol is nice, but he's too clean

it ain't gay if it's leo though

>it ain't gay if it's leo though

Almost broke up with my gf, thanks user

If there's such thing as meme character Leo is a prime example

I think Johnny and Baiken are bigger meme characters imo.

Well he gave us unga

How long until best girl is playable?

SOON

But Sol is an even bigger unga character.
And didn't the unga meme start in BB with Azrael?

By the way isn't her makeup a reference to Ghost?

Nope
Unga started with Buiscuits being very butthurt over Leo

no

Don't let shit die, bros.

BUFF MAY'S DAMAGE AGAIN PLS

Never, bitch is dead
I'd sooner believe Jubei gets into Central
Fiction
You never heard of Juggalos and Insane Clown Posse?

She already shits out damage like Sin with meter
You want her to have TOD combos or what?

Nerf May's armpits

no I just thought it was funny that they buffed her damage last patch, when she didn't need it at all.

>2P hitbox and hurtbox are taller

has potential to be something useful, and j.d ground bounce is cool on counter hit. Still didn't address the issues why he is shit though. They are going to keep buffing the dumb little stuff, and when they do address his issues he is going to be way too strong.

Pot is just an inherently hard character to balance.

I'm just saying.. it's Guilty Gear. A series where even virus' name is a music reference

And new characters still got those too. Some are painfully obvious like Helloween or White Lion, other more hidden

Jebailey says he's against the patch for Xrd since it's out tomorrow. Thoughts?

They should give him 6p jump cancel or 6p gatlings.

A patch is a patch. Games should be up to date no matter what

Gatling might be much, but yeah 6P JC would do wonders.

I disnt get that last Pot buff part, does j.D bounces the enemy on the ground if it hits a counter hit? Also about Axel, what dies combo route even mean?

Not having 6p jump cancel is the stupidest shit. He had that in #R for god's sake. Can't convert off of regular 6P except a few situations. Losing the overhead was dumb too.

Honestly I still can't see why he can't have his AC heat, he can't even combo into it the way he could in AC.

They can't move to the new patch. It would be stupid to make changes in a couple days.

Yes it causes a ground bounce they will most likely lead to combos. Probably like Pot's +R j.S counter hit. They should give him back that.

>ASW can't balance for shit and misses the point of a character's flaws
Surprise of the fucking century.

What big issues does current Pot have? He has high damage, got much more consistent with new Blitż and dust working in his favor and even got very scary mixup with trishula YRC

He's by no means Dizzy who's just flawed even on paper right now

ROBO KY

W H E N
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Fug, what's wrong with Dizzy? I just bought the game.

I've been trying to learn johnny but fuuuck, can barely get past the 5th combo or 8th situation thing. Anyone got tip? I only got into SFV

His damage is shit out of the corner. His pressure is bad. Terrible mobility. Heat kills all momentum. Struggles to mash out of any pressure. His dust is shit so it being stronger does little. YRC trish is strong but is only really useful after ICPM. His oki is bland compare to the rest of the cast.

The corner is the only place where he becomes strong, but so is every other character. And unlike them he can't corner carry nearly as consistently as the strong characters.

Johnny is fucking hard to play.

>Stance cancelling in the air mid combo

I can only pull of that BnB corner combo like 10 or 15 percent of the time. Probably doesn't help that I'm a pad scrub.

What do you mean by 5th combo?

In the dojo you know how they teach you a characters specials, then start you off with basic combos? I cant even do his 5th combo string

Oki character that has no oki and no reliable overheads

For reference

Oh. Well i cant look at it right now.

What is it you gotta do again?

How do we divert population from SFV to Guilty Gear?

Change GG's aesthetics, slow down the game by a lot, and have Sony market it a lot more.

we have the full patch change list, they should use move to it anyways

Jump(HS)
Standing(K)
Close Range(S)
Low Sweep (Crouch D)
Glitter Is Gold (CS+HS)

Where are you dropping it? the jump into K? Glitter is gold?

God that would be terrible. Keep the SF drones to SF then if they'll end up fucking with other fighters. On a side note it's cool Infiltration picked up the game. Kinda want to see him play it sometime.

I always randomly mess up going from the K to S and I can never complete the combo without choking

release a forever upgradable version on pc with cross play

Well then that just comes down to practice. Its a pretty simple combo, so just keep practicing.

Also make sure you are close enough after the k to get close s.

This is like a 6 months old description, how long has it been since you last played the game?

Yeah I'm getting the hang of it only thing I'm forgetting right now is the glitter is gold.

With HOS, Testament, and ABA all not in the game, who should I main when I pick up Revelator this weekend?

Sin sort of reminds me of HOS with his sub-meter, but I've heard all his moves are mirrors of Ky's or something along those lines.

3P was already a ridiculous normal. This shit is going to make Axl a problem as far as rushdown is concerned.

What are you talking about? He barely changed in Rev. I have a feeling you don't play the character or know what you are talking about.

This is the feeling I got from you actually.

Ayyy I deed it.

Alright name one thing i described that changed?

>3P was already a ridiculous normal
yeah? I only used it as a mix up, either 6H for OH or 3P for a low then hit confirm 5S 2S normal TK bomber combo

Nice. Just to let you know, you can also dash after the first glitter, and throw another after the dash to get lvl 3 right away.

The damage being shit outside the corner, and acting as if comboing into ICPM was hard.

Since I main Jam. I'm sad Ryujin got some slight nerfs. But that Axl buff on the other hand.

One day....

pc version when?

So you want a grappler that has good pressure, is mobile, can end combos with the ability to set up great oki and have higher damage?

Fuck off nerd. If you dislike everything about the archetype don't play it

His dust is practically a ToD anywhere on the screen if he has tension, and that alone already makes his mix-up stronger because the opponent actually has to look out for his dust now.

And both ground throw bounce and now the butt dive bounce allow him to corner carry out of both.

>pc
>fighting games

lmaooooooooooo

2017 most likely. Right after they announce the newer version for arcades.

There is supposedly an announcement related to GG soon, maybe that

or we wait until a new version is announced then wait 5 months

He is wrong about Pot's ability to set people up actually, that or he is unwilling to sacrifice meter for positioning like a scrub.

Remember kids. Prolonged Backyard exposure can cause this. But it might be worth it to gain godlike magical powers.

Specially when Potemkin's meter gain is insane like it is.

But that is pretty normal actually, most Potemkin players are fucking crybabies.

I'm not, though.

Meterless you are getting a gatling to sweep which leads to really poor oki options at most distances, or hammerfall combo if they are crouching. Both of which will be less than other characters with faster and better normals.

Comboing into icpm is hard if you opponent isn't inside you since you have no way to bring them back into 2H range. It is easy on a training dummy though.

His Dust can only get near ToD after half screen and you need tension. Ground throw requires 50% tension, and dust potentially but ICPM combos are very finicky

It's frame trap city.
Floats on CH
Can bait DPs on knockdown or just straight up clash with Sol's DP
Can confirm into rashossen
Don't sleep on 3P bro.

>might be worth it
There's a million goddamn ways to get insane magical power in the Guilty Gear universe and 99% of them DON'T turn you into a shitty twink catboy.

Why cat ears? Thought he would look more mystery under the hood. What Sol do when he met him?

wow, that does seem pretty good, I look into it

thanks

also user if you're still here I have one last question, I have a hori fightpad but I've been told GG is easier with a stick, is that true?

Sacrificing meter for positioning is always worth it for Potemkin, keep that in mind and you will improve.

so does this patch cost $60 too?

GG is the one game i tell people they should use a pad if they are comfortable, its really nice with a ad
then again i dont have a stick so i might be biased, but i actually feel fine with one unlike in SF

depends on who you use i guess

Elaborate.

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Come now. I'd rather take GG furries over most other ones.
Him and Izuna aren't related. But I guess when you live in the Backyard for centuries you start to turn into a Youkai like Izuna. which are basically natural Gears.

I don't know what you want me to say.

The nigga can't airdash. It should be obvious.

hey remember when Cred Forums was rooting for the heel character to win evo?
shit was jokes

Depends. If you are planning on using Johnny, i would recommend a stick. His mist finer cancel stuff sounds like a pain in the ass on pad.

Most of the cast plays just fine on pad so its your choice really.

Remember that revelator has legacy support on ps4 so you can use a ps3 stick too if you want.

>Japan is always first for new releases
>FUCKING ARCSYS COME ON RELEASE EVERYTHING IN THE SAME TIME WE WANT NEW STUFF ASAP!
>here's a patch, guys!
>W-WAIT! WE AREN'T READY! WHY EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING SO FAST?!

He's only saying it since CEOtaku is this weekend.

I do have a stick but I've gotten use to my pad so if anything I'll try learning a more easier character. Is Leo or Axl good for people that like to do mid range and air combos?

Trying to consistently do IAD into dp is such a pain.

A patch coming out literally right before the tournament, it's natural to be undecided on whether to want to make the change or not.

How long will it last?

And we've seen what happens when a patch hits a tournament right before it starts. MKX anyone?

What a retarded character design.

tips for approaching?
havent played in months but i want to get into it again and i main pot, im also pretty shit and cant combo. I just do shit knockdown combos from jabs and punish jumps with HPB and fail at doing HF into cancel into buster since online frames are fucky for me and im bad.
my corner shit is generally 6K and Trishula loops and bait them into fucking up but its just random guessing on my end

i was told to stop using HPB to punish since it should be used in combos and i also fuck up consistently against certain characters like jack-o due to her bullshit air power

HF>HFb>HF>HFb is fucking impossible too for me, i've practiced it so god damn much and im 100% certain its impossible on pad
i wish they would find a way to fix Ram, target combos are fun as hell especially with the amount of options she has then they nerfed her to F tier and she's been stuck there

No and the last one didn't either

walk block, jump and do early j.S or j.P or jump block. That is about his best two approaches.

Yea they are fine. Axl is more a prediction based character where you kind have to condition and anticipate your opponent a lot more, hes pretty good these days though. The hardest thing execution wise from him is probably just his TK special combos.

Leo is also fine, but hes easy to fall into a kind of scrubby mentality with him since his stuff can blow new people up really hard, hence the UNGA meme. Skilled Leo's are definitely still scary though.

But this is Guilty Gear user.

my first online match was against a skilled leo and he perfected me. I'll just try out both I suppose.

Just walking was my main early on since its terrifying and builds meter but i got into a really bad habit of doing slidehead>HF>HFb and its ruined my already less than mediocre play with him
I found myself doing alot of j.S since it has a good hitbox and everyonce in a while i could get off a j.S>PB if i let their block stun sit for a few frames, but most jabs beat that shit. it's fun though

Hopefully a while. Sol deserves to be happy. They can raise all their retarded Gear children together.
Feel sorry for Elphelt though. Lost the Sol bowl and her second option is more interested in her delicious brown sister.

That's the difference between old GG and new GG. That Man was a shady villian a fucking Gearmaker who fucked Sol's life. Now he's kawaii ugu~ nekomimi bishounen. They want BB audience or something?

This is a not-on-pc-REEE post.

Hitbox, nigga.

Literally not. She was designed by Mori so she belongs to BB.

guess who actually buys and plays their games in japan?

Doesn't Mori voice the key?

He still has the same personality. He might have had a just reason for fucking Sol over but he doesn't really apologize to Sol for it. Hence why the next game is suppose to be their final confrontation. They're not real enemies anymore, but they have a grudge and scor to settle.
As For the ear I think he might be becoming a Youkai like Izuna.

Yes

It's called ironically liking a character. She's a silly character but GG is full of freaks and weirdos like her.
Yeah. ABA's dialogue with Paracelsus is one of the best parts of her.

Five minues at most. The series isn't called "Everything's Petty Good Gear".

Picked this up during the sale this past weekend. Can anybody give me some advice? I'm deciding between Ky, Elphelt, and Millia. I've played BlazBlue since CT but I'm still terrible at it. I prefer oki and staying mid to close range, but I suck at longer combos. I figure I'll have an easier time with Ky or Elphelt but I feel like Millia will help me improve at fighting games overall.

>they have a grudge and scor to settle
Let's see, That Man
>saved Aria from her disease
>made Sol invincible so he can survive until he can fix Aria
>saved Sol's child so now he has big happy family AND his gf back
>actually helped to save the world many times
Yeah, Sol definitely should settle the score with such awful friend!

Out of that listing Ky is probably the closest to fit your liking, although Elph isn't far off either.

Is she a normal human now though? Doesn't it mean Sol will live and see his wife and son in law dying from being old?

Did he bother to tell Sol any of these things? Did he give Sol a choice to be the prototype Gear or tell him why he need to be one?
I'm not saying he's a bad guy. He's actually quite good but the way he does things is pretty dickish.

Ariels asspull and turning That Man into a good guy all along was the dumbest shit so far honestly. Ariels just felt like random crazy shit with weak as fuck context, and of course a terrible attempt at """redemption""" near the end.

I really don't see why they had to make That Man a good guy when he was basically terror incarnate before. It just seems like a cop-out more than anything, since there wasn't any hint of that prior to Xrd. And saying "that was the point" doesn't change how anti-climactic it all felt.

>expecting fighting games to have good writing

Yeah, not a big fan of Revelator's plot either.

At the very least Ariels was entertaining to watch a lot of the time.
Daisuke says that SOl vs That Man is still happening though. I guess just under different context than previously expected. Maybe we'll finally see Sol go 100%.
Though at the end of the day Guilty Gears story is one trope to the next since the beginning. But it's still enjoyable for the silliness.

rare footage of kum getting fan art

Thanks for the response user but yeah that's what I was thinking. Ky seems like he can be played a lot of different ways while Elphelt seems to keep things kind of simple. From what I've seen Millia has some crazy mixups but she's just as complicated to match.

Ky is probably a little more simple then Elph. While Ky has plenty of ways to be played, Elph has some really crazy hit confirms going on in order for you to be good with her.

Add on top of that a good chunk of character specific stuff and she can turn out to be way more complex to play then most people give her credit for.

They're mirrors of Ky's in spirit and name mostly. He plays completely different.

Sol is pulling the "I never asked for this!" card. And he does kind of have a point because it was all done against his will.

Guilty Gear XX Korean OST DLC for Xrd when?

0/10
(You)

and so on, embarrassing people legit fell for this bait.

probably in with Baiken at the same time.

Where my Zato players at?
Do you personally prefer fuzzy guard oki or just straight low/frame-trap/throw pressure? Are you an oki-heavy Zato or do you prefer controlling the neutral with Eddie?
Also why is the Jack-o matchup such garbage?

CEOtaku is going to run without the patch. And I agree, it was simply way too little time to adjust to it.

welcome to GG, yes even before the big bad "blazblue bogeyman" "ruined" it.

there has been a ton of forshadowing about That Man being misunderstood since fucking #Reload you #Retard

> tfw by the time this comes to pc people probably moved on onto the next iteration
> because theres no crossplay pc community will die within a month
guess i have to stick to SFV

does this patch include digital figure mode or whatever it was?

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Yes

youtube.com/watch?v=EerVjIFTfh4

Why is this shit so good?

>I-no didn't change at all again.

Sigh. Throw a guy a bone.

when does this patch go live?

I dont play against many I-nos, is she good?

I only played against one and from that I assume a lot of her shit is from IAD which as a Axl main, would punish the fuck out of

She's actually pretty solid but I wish she had more stuff to blow mashing, or her j.s/j.k hit low profile. She's very hard to play though, so that's probably why you don't see many. All her bread and butters require a very tight link in 5HS IAD or SJ IAD j.k which is pretty offputting to beginners I bet. Another core part of her is her J.D cancel which requires phlinking.

But yeah, Axl is her worst match up so you'll probably cream any you meet unless they're really on the ball.

I-No is a god of high\low mixups. Once she's in your face you can only pray.

He's axel though. His neutral counters her hard enough she struggles to get in to do those high lows, and once she's in she still has to consider DP reversals. She's not as scary for him as it is for say, Venom or faust.