VR can cause myopia, extreme eye pain and brain damage

yeah. I forgot to mention that point.
Like you said. its a screen strapped to your face. that is it.
There is some VR that allows to move around. but even then. you are limited to the confinements of a small room.

>This isnt even "real" VR
its not surrogate bodies we control remotely or matrix brain plug

the only thing to qualify for VR is providing a virtual reality, which this does, to the vehement clamor of its few users

It might be a screen strapped to your face, but with enough fps and low latency it does what it says on the tin

>not playing games on a drive-in movie theater screen

PSVR is more likely to cause that since the 1080p screen will lead to massive screendoor effect. Which will cause a much higher degree of eye strain as it tries to focus on the image with a narrow pupil due to the proximity of the screen and light it generates.

It's a fucking LCD shoved in your face. Of course it was still going to be an issue.

Virtual reality is a bit of a farcical term. The proponents of head-mounted displays tend to cast the phrase "virtual reality" in such a way that it describes what HMDs do, but that's obviously specious. Also, if you take into consideration how important our suspension of disbelief and sensory substitution is to HMD-based VR, then it's not a stretch to say that a well-written book is also a form of virtual reality. Arguably a far more plausible one.

>literally no studies done on this
>just an opinion piece with a quote from an optometrist about how gamers don't leave the house so they don't get sunlight to keep their eyes healthy
10/10 clickbait. Truly the Mirror is the most reputable news source.

>the only thing to qualify for VR is providing a virtual reality
By that logic, couldn't every video game ever be considered VR?

Joke's on them, I'm already nearsighted
Can't wait to augment my vision with all those kickass cybereyes currently undergoing medical trials

>tens of thousands of studies done that show that excessive eye strain done by staring at bright screens with lots of oscillation of light patterns can lead to a deterioration of the eye; leading to loss of vision
>HMDs are everything above, but now 3-5" from your eyes instead of 5-10 feet

The doctor isn't wrong, dipshit.

virtual reality is a virtual space that you feel is real. modern HMDs trick you into thinking the virtual space is real by rendering games in 3D, one angle to each eye, and allowing you to move your head and body around a virtual space.

it's vr plain and simple. saying otherwise is like saying you aren't living in the real world if you have a disability that doesn't let you smell or feel things yet you can still see and move around.

stop being retards. true 1:1 vr won't be a thing for decades at best and when we live in that age, mankind will be so fucking advanced that all the world problems would be solved.

this shit applies to staring at your computer and browsing Cred Forums too you fucking mongoloids.

This isn't exclusive to VR at all.

yes, it can
i didn't say it was a very good word to use but they used it anyway

>the doctor isn't wrong
Where are the studies specifically about VR headsets?
And besides they didn't mention thoae studies. Its a fucking clickbait article trying to cause a panic and get attention over "DON'T SIT SO CLOSE TO THE TV YOU'LL GO BLIND" tier supposition.

Show us one of those studies faggot

This is the exact same reason you don't sit in front of any screen all day.

Luckily the Vive simulates imagery being displayed about 2 meters from your eyes via the lenses. The only real issue is eye dryness. Yeah, if you don't blink for several hours, your eyes will get dry. Blink nigga.

>By that logic, couldn't every video game ever be considered VR?

Technically yes, "virtual reality" used to mean any 3D computer generated space back when people still said "information super highway" completely without irony

Obviously. The point is, that excessively looking at bright screens will lead to an eventual loss of vision.

>studies for VR

It doesn't fucking matter if it's an HMD, your monitor, your phone, or the god damn TV. If it's a screen, and it's bright, and you watch it FAR TOO MUCH, you will damage your eyes.

Faggots.

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Darwin was a cousin marrying coward.

Only reason he published his work is because he found out a much younger man was going to publish his own work which more or less was identical to Darwin.

Only reason people remember Darwin and not the other guy is because of his grandfather was a well known gentleman scientist (who's work Darwin pretty much fucking copied/stole from).

Fuck Darwin.

>and when we live in that age, mankind will be so fucking advanced that all the world problems would be solved.
>implying the world won't nuke each other before that happens

>holding a screen like 2 inches from your face is bad for your eyes
Well no shit.

The DK1 didn't cause eye strain though, the better the resolution the lower the strain also. It's more straining to look at a monitor or television than it is to look at a VR head set, since those are letting you perceive depth.

I'm definitely not disagreeing with the OP article though, that consensus is common sense.

VR HMDs exasperate the damage though, since it's so close to your eyes. And it's very likely worse in other ways, for instance the increased amount of radiation exposed to your entire head. There is a lot of advanced and high powered tech in the gadget and it's literally strapped to your head.

>DK1 didn't cause eye strain

It sure as hell will if you use it 4 hours a day, 5 days a week, for a year.

No, no, show us the studies just for normal screens

Hmm, so watching a screen from a distance for an extended length of time will damage your eyes... I wonder if mounting the screen 1 inch from your face will damage it more? Huh, really makes you think huh?

>"could"
Shitting in a toilet 'could' lead to colon cancer, user.

>british 'press'
>"VR WILL KILL YOU IRL, CAUSE BLINDNESS AND VOMITING EPIDEMIC"
>people in vr won't blink enough
>people in VR won't get enough natural sunlight
>no mention of nausea in actual article

That's how we'll solve the problems :^)

>If it's a screen, and it's bright, and you watch it FAR TOO MUCH, you will damage your eyes.
Except if you use a lense to refract the light

Why the fuck would you use it 4 hours a day or even 5 days a week? Even then I doubt it.

I don't think he'll understand.

>not blinking in darkness for long period is bad for your eyes
no shit

>disrupting focus
bulllshit

Make it sound like a serious issue when its just a matter of taking breaks AS HAS ALWAYS BEEN RECOMMENDED with regular displays.

academicjournals.org/journal/MPR/article-full-text-pdf/0905F9948599

hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/assets/Sites/Longwood_Seminars/Eyes_March.pdf

>Myth: Staring at a computer screen all day is bad for the eyes.

>Fact: Although using a computer will not harm your eyes, staring at a computer screen all day
will contribute to eyestrain or tired eyes. Adjust lighting so that it does not create a glare or
harsh reflection on the screen. Also, when you’re working on a computer or doing other close
work such as reading or sewing, it’s a good idea to rest your eyes briefly every hour or so to
lessen eye fatigue. Finally, people who stare at a computer screen for long periods tend not to
blink as often as usual, which can cause the eyes to feel dry and uncomfortable. Make a
conscious effort to blink regularly so that the eyes stay well lubricated and do not dry out.

Page 20.

Fuck I have brain cancer now.....

Maybe you should get yourself checked out for autism first.

As much as I don't give a fuck about VR, in theory your eyes could be more relaxed with proper high res/high fps headset than looking directly to a monitors for hours.

>"vomiting epidemic"?
How retarded are these people? is like saying rides in amusement parks created "vomiting epidemics" NO SHIT? IS A FUCKING RIDE.

Also Lets be real here, VR is going to be banned on Europe and Ausland by concerned mothers, is just a matter of time.

Friendly reminder that VR will be the death of humanity.

The answer to the fermi paradox is that all sufficiently advanced civilizations abandon real life in favor of VR.

>There is a lot of advanced and high powered tech in the gadget, exposing you to increased radiation.
you genuinely have no idea what you're talking about. this isn't me being rude, this isn't a meaningless rejection, it is the sincere truth. there are next to no radiation sources in any of these HMDs. the closest thing would be the Vives IR lasers used for tracking, and those are operating at some fraction (hundreds or thousands of times less) of natural sunlight. VR HMDs are less radioactive than any cell-phone.

>if it's a screen, and it's bright, and you watch it FAR TOO MUCH, you will damage your eyes.

But this isn't true

>muh radiation
please

>stare at the sun directly for an hour

>trust me, I won't go blind

Do you not fucking understand what excessive means?

That's never been a theory, it's always been the case. Looking into an HMD is no more straining than wearing glasses.

>VR is going to be banned on Europe and Ausland
Too many smart people working on it for this to happen.

> less radioactive than any cell-phone.
I don't believe you. I'm not saying you'll die but after decades of use something might pop up.

>Speculation

Why can't Cred Forums not be retarded for 2 seconds?
Where are all the articles of this happening to all the Vive and Oculus buyers?

>yfw you didn't fall for the VR meme

In what way is a device that sends and receives microwave signals to space less radioactive than a symple screen with some gyroscopes in it?

At some point in the near future, you'll either fall for the VR meme or you'll fall for the AR meme. Pick your poison user, and pick it well.

It's not a simple screen and the gadgets are clocked at high frequencies.

>Mirror.co.uk
>The writer of the article is called Nineball2112

I don't buy it.

>microwave signals to space
it's called cellphone because it work as cells and not by satellites
that's why you lose signal on woods

It is a simple screen and it's not ACTIVELY BROADCASTING RADIOACTIVE SIGNAL like a phone you baiting faggot

you know that there isn't any difference between light and radio except the frequency right?

>Sony will get sued into oblivion with VR lawsuits

I can't wait

Your computer is clocked at GHz. Better throw that shit out the window, user.

>VR plebs
>not AR master race

>not trusting based nineball
He's doing his job protecting humanity

what in any of these HMDs do you think is emitting dangerous quantities of radiation? the most intense radiation is most likely the visible light from the screen itself, and that won't even give you a tan. your wireless controllers are going to be dosing you more than the HMD itself.

the only real possible optical danger posed by modern VR HMDs is for small children who use them habitually (probably, in practice, spend more time in a VR HMD than they do out of it) to develop near or short-sightedness, because of the way the optics trick your eyes natural focus (which is not as well developed in small children). even that is not well studied and basically only embraced as fact because of how safety-minded the modern VR makers really are (and way beyond optical health, these are people inventing whole new technologies to help you not stub your toes in VR!).

Let me know when you get cancer from a flashlight, I'll wait

>laser eye surgeon
he's only talking about people with bionic eyes that may malfunction

let me know when you get cancer from a cellphone, i'll wait

That shit isn't strapped to my face now is it?

There's no way the VR companies put all that time and money into something that can backfire this badly.

don't dare me user

The difference between your face and your desk is an order of magnitude. GHz, user. GHz.

In order to suffer from injuries related to long-term exposure, there would need to be a VR game worth playing for more than three minutes

>Blog post written by someone with a username like that
>A random surgeon with zero evidence to back his claim makes the assumption that people will get zero sun exposure to their eyes in the future
Also, there is already a myopia epidemic.

BINNED

Also mfw Cred Forums has zero critical thinking skills and believes OP's link.

Retards

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>I date you
uh no i dont think so

I DARE YOU

sorry, no user
no homo

>people have been staring at TV screens for 50+ years, people in security watching cameras
No problem
>computer screens for 30 years
No problem
>mobile phones for 10 years
No problem
>vr
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because your TV is several feet from your head

Your computer is probably not as far but still some distance

Your phone is small. But also arms legth

VR is a fucking screen IN YOUR FACE

And hell phones and computers have fucked up our eyes over time. VR is going to do it on max speed

>TFW Sony suckers are so desperate for games they will risk even worse eye problems for a few shitty gimmick tier games

The porn is worth it though.

ad hominem in action

>20 years later
>We still can't argument our eyes

People have been smoking for centuries too. But I guess since people keep smoking, it's not harmful.

>One day we'll develop cybernetic eyes specifically for indulging in media and activities that our suboptimal flesh eyes cannot fully reciprocate to