SMT Apocalypse

You guys DID pick Toki as your Megami, right?

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at first I thought that was the girl from ergo proxy

I picked Swizzgar

Why is Toki so smug?

Why couldn't I make Pixie my megami?

They're similar enough

>YHVH fight is easier when other team dies

Everybody's just holding me back

They sure are, buddy.

Even your demons?

I NEED TOKI

I picked Nozomi.

I'm a tits guy

Of course

I regularly tossed weak demons into the hellfire in search of stronger ones that would not disappoint me

You'd snap much sooner from her endless home slices of banana cakes.

Nozomi is the only one of the crew I never warmed up to. Gaston was a cunt 99% of the game but he redeemed himself pretty thoroughly near the end.
Nozomi was just boring as a brick from start to finish, even if she was hot.

>see through black elastic clothing

I need more of this.


Smtivf dojins when?

SMT IV got like three doujins and two of them were never translated
And also they were all terrible

So I wouldn't count on it, despite the amount of waifu going on in Apocalypse

The will be 99% yaoi and you know it.

>Nozomi: Hey I'm just gonna tell everyone in tokyo that you're a traitor to humanity but lets still be friends ok
I dunno guys I think Dagda is right about this "Bonds is for fagets" business.

How can any one user still be this buttblasted

I would be very angry about facing my death because that bitch couldn't shut it.

>will be

It already is. I tried to find Toki art on Pixiv and got a fuckload more results for gay Nanashi/Hallelujah art.

Does that game have a demonica?

Not that I know of, but in a world where If... can get into a Persona game, I'm sure SJ can

>I would be very angry about facing my death because that bitch couldn't shut it.

Did you forget you get free revives

and if you're self inserting (LMAO) you wouldn't have been forced to do it like Nanashi was and if you had done it then you're an idiot and deserve a public hanging

You took the bonds route didn't you

I can't imagine someone who took massacre would whine like this because she would have been right

I can't believe you warmed up to Asahi but not Nozomi

>There's more than ten Mpreg pics of Hallelujah with a different artist for each one.
I owe /smtg/ for this knowledge and wisdom.

>keeping it a secret that you have a powerful deity with plans to destroy and remake the universe

Bruh that shit's gonna come to public knowledge eventually. Leaving it to fester is the worst thing you could do.

>commit a crime
>someone else has to own up for you

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Please tell me its voice acted like they did with the Terminal guy scene.

Of course it is.

I gifted this to my 9-year old cousin who lives in a hyper-conservative Christian family and goes to a super-fucking fundamentalist church.

Will post updates on lulz.

He better punch god in the face.

should have given him a save right before fighting YHVH because otherwise he's not going to make it past King Frost

How can one jailbait be so PERFECT
Literally destroys enemies and will suck your dicc

It's a shame, because there's so much potential for Megami Tensei porn.

>There'll never be a doujin about some shy girl fusing with a demon and becoming a literal semen demon to get with her childhood friend/senpai/whatever.

Welcome to the hell of having a playing a game with fanbase composed mostly of girls.

It got way more than that.

The rest were yaoi though and I don't think you can find previews of them on Pixiv no more.

Majin Tensei has a good doujin made by the mangaka who did its manga.

I will never understand why SMT attracts mostly female audience in Japan.

Devil Summoner games. Raidou particularly. Pretty much a gay icon over there. Certainly has the most MT doujin by a noticeable mile.

>Devil Summoner games. Raidou particularly.
I think you mean Raidou only.
Kyouji and Hacker both have literal waifus.

It's such a shame too. I got into Dragon Quest last year and have translated 7 or so DQ doujins. Got into MegaTen this year and I've found nothing. Well, there's some Persona doujins, but I'm more fond of Persona 1 and 2 which I've never seen any doujins of. I'd still be okay with translating Persona 3+ doujins, but all the good ones already have been. Guess I can wait for Persona 5 doujins, especially if there's any with the teacher (haha, yeah right).

I don't know, friend
I don't know

Raidou had wifeus too. Didn't stop fujishits.

Female MC for SMTV confirmed
Play as Tokyo goddess reincarnated, truly

You heard it here first folks

How would that even work? Mainline SMT always makes you play as Izanagi of some sort.

Why the fuck was Stephen even in this game

SMT4A is basically all about the amala universe, while Stephen is more or less a traveler of it.

Asahi is for ____?

cucking

Fuck if I know

I guess i'm not understanding this at all because I thought Nanashi only became top dog and defeated YHVH in his universe. Which she and everything else ceases to exist.

Unless Nanashi is now the big boss across many universes or she somehow is created again through his or flynns observations or however that whole thing works

eating

Sacrificing for a world of STR.

Ssssserving othersss delicioussss mealsss

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What did they mean by this?

i heard that all of your items, money and demons get deleted if you pick the ending that goes against the invisible and untrackable alignment meter that builds up over the game

is it true?

Rejecting

Another childhood friend rejected

I can't decide between Toki and Pascal the imouto, they're both great. The better choice for Nanashi is probably doggo, but personally I lean more towards Toki, she has some of the most endearing development. I guess you don't have to choose in bonds.

One thing I'm sure of, though, is that Nozomi is worst girl of any SMT. Insufferable personality, terrible queen who let all the cute fairies die, backstabbing cunt who still tried to stay friends after selling out humanity's only hope, second worst partner gameplay wise after Gaston (who is a joke character).

>That way Asahi gets visibly jealous when Toki hits on Nanashi

Cute, CUTE!

Yes. But it's not exactly hard to keep track of yourself.
Choices that determine your alignment go like this:

"A cute adorable puppy needs your help and your childhood friend wants to adopt it."
Choice A: Adopt the puppy
Choice B: Throw the puppy in a storm drain

Really not complex enough to come as a surprise.

/ss/.

>my team is immune to light/dark
>boss uses an almighty attack that instant kills

Toki has the best hairstyle.

Does Stephen talk like Microsoft Sam?

They wussed out, didn't they?

If... is basically Persona 0 so it makes sense.

What did they mean by THIS?

>Mainline SMT always makes you play as Izanagi of some sort
No

In SMT 1 you were Adam, and heroine was Eve
In SMT 2 you were Jesus and Hiroko was Mary
In SMT 3, fuck if I know, but that shit ain't Shinto. Izanagi and Izanami appear, though.
In SMT 4 you were an avatar of Masakado.
In SMT 4A you were YHVH in the makings.

In Strange Journey you were America, Fuck yeah.

Supposedly

I acted nice for about 95% of the time they were around. Towards the end I acted like a dick because I got tired of having them around. One of the bosses asks an alignment related question and I answered towards the massacre route to which he calls me a liar and buffs himself.

A short while later I was killing all my friends with no penalty

He talks like a normal human being.

In SMT 3 you were bottom bitch

Hallelujah exists for a reason. He isn't good for extended fights like Navarre, bobo or Asahi, but he's great against bosses with bullshit.

>not the full scene

No, Nozomi is the dedicated /ss/ girl

BDSM.

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>In Strange Journey you were America, Fuck yeah.

FUCK YEAH

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Man, after the Stephen fight DLC, I'm way more curious about what happened to him between SMT 1 and now. I guess he's traveled to hundreds of different universes and transcended humanity.

Also, he's canon stronger than fucking YHVH.

I just released krishna from the ark

this game feels cheap compared to IV. only stupid things were added (like the floor master QTE where you spam x to not get relocated). and I understand that the world is supposed to feel hopeful in contrast w the first game and also to give context to the time in IV's story. but at the same time, having every (EVERY) NPC talk about how great Flynn is really cringey

I want to like this game, it's just paced strangely. they better do something big w Navarre, otherwise he's a shitty character to have return. and as of now, Dagda feels so secondary. I know he's supposed to drive the plot, but he never talks other than the two times I've died.

it's also obnoxious when nanashi interacts w spirit stuff (i.e. Navarre, the healing Springs in dungeons) and asahi gets all prissy like "idk what you're doing but you better hurry up!"

everything I've mentioned just makes it seem like sloppy story design. all the moves, as of yet, seem unnecessary. and this is coming from someone who absolutely loves IV. one of my favorite rpgs of all time

>Bitch gets Mother's Discipline
>Gets Pierce Gun awakening passive

>She still fucking spams motherfucking Photo Flash and Seducing Shot

youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk

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So, are the law and chaos routes good or is the game basically "[All the] god[s] rejected!!! XD" in terms of where they decided to go storywise?

>Toki joins the team
>Asahi walks away mumbling "M-Maybe she's not even his type..."

She is definitely my type

It's not law and chaos.

It's basically "power of friendship that doesn't solve the problem overall" vs. "power of killing all your friends and being a complete asshole but solving the YHVH situation."

Persona ending vs. SMT ending, essentially.

Mara is actually female, and has daughters

>Cleopatra needs Asahi's nose to be fully revived in one of the DLC missions
>Say Asahi has a cute nose
>She doesn't know how to react at first, but was happy

No, there's law and chaos endings, but there's also two neutral endings; peace and anarchy.

What I love about this scene is how Asahi's voice actually keeps going on beyond the displayed dialogue.

I don't see the problem.

SMT3 is mixture Cain, Abel and the temptation of the snake for Eve.

Truly best girl.

>SMT 4 Duology
>7 bad ends
>1 good end

>mfw i up to this part now just beat merk
WAT THE FUCK DID ODIN DO

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The White is the only good end

How long is this game? I started yesterday, just arrived in Ginza, and checked a Japanese wiki and it shows me in part 6 of 20 of that guide. Feels like a long way in just over a day if that's any indication of how far I am.

keep playing, you're about to find out.

did you really think the Shesha Radar just broke down without a reason.

>good end
>Flynn now spends all of his time to make sure Law and Chaos ends happen
Speaking of that, they put the Demon Gene into the game.

U wot?
SMT4 Endings:
White
Law
Chaos
Neutral

White is the only "bad" one and all other 3 are ideological good ones.

Apocalypse endings:
Law
Chaos
Neutral (Bonds)
Neutral (Massacre)
Law and Chaos are prestented as "bad" endings here but both Bonds and Massacre are ideological "good" endings.

Your main fucking problem is being too inbred retarded to know there are no bad endings in SMT since it's all about roleplaying and going with the one that matches your ideology the most.

>cheap compared to IV. only stupid things were added
Well it's a spinoff made almost entirely of re-used assets you dingus. SMT IV's dungeons were, unfortunately, terrible, and they tried to remedy it with the traps and wraith walls, but you can't exactly have Labyrinth of Amala style dungeons in a handheld game.

>having every (EVERY) NPC talk about how great Flynn is really cringey
I'll agree, but it at least makes sense, considering it starts right after Flynn goes around all of Tokyo getting all the hunters on his dick.

>they better do something big w Navarre
He gets a decent character arc.

>Dagda feels so secondary
He gets a lot more involved later, there's just not much for him to do early in the story.

>asahi gets all prissy like "idk what you're doing but you better hurry up!"
But it's C U T E when she gets jealous that you're staring at the naked healing lady

>sloppy story design
The plot of Apocalypse is pretty bad, don't get me wrong. But they at least marginally improved all the gameplay aspects from IV. Smirk isn't as broken, builds are more balanced, there's at least a little more to do in dungeons.
The only thing they didn't fix was the difficulty curve, which they had to release difficulty DLC to fix.

How do you take these screenshots? As far as I know in game screenshots for this are disabled.

Bonds does solve the YHVH problem, though. The whole point is that he's not just dead, but the Great Will rejects him, even Lawfags told him to get fucked. He can probably come back like a demon because people know of him, but not to his throne, so he's not as dangerous.

I'm more worried about Massacre long term. Nanashi is just going to become the new YHVH or even worse, having one brainwashed partner isn't going to keep him sane forever. Plus he was already a detached edgelord to get on the route in the first place.

>Massacre
>Bad end

took me 55 hours

the last dungeon alone is like 5 hours if you want to explore it all

that Power was too savage to be an angel

Honebrew probably.

Anyone still has a link to the SDDS V track by Meguro for SMTV?

The law and chaos endings are early bad endings and basically identical to IV's. They really don't count.

And the YHVH situation is?

youtube.com/watch?v=r3wS7QEwUbs

>implying

fucking bullshit paying customers can't do this too.

I'm okay with it as long as it is Nanashi in the goth outfit.

Miiverse

It seems like everyone is going Massacre ending. I'd like to see both, but I'll probably just go Bonds because I heard about the "lose all your items or demons" thing and I've been a generally nice guy, so I don't want that. Plus it's probably what I'd do anyway.

what the fuck am I supposed to be looking at here? his legs are amputated?

Homebrew. From the Homebrew menu, go to HANS and load up the game you're playing. From there, you just press the Home button in game and it will take screenshots. When you exit the game, you go to the Screenshot Tool and it converts them into screenshots.

Just go full dickhead and you'll make it user
how far are you?

Is that from a quest or from a store?

>not having NTR CFW

Losing your items isn't even all that bad. Its just stuff in the inventory and not what you have equipped.

>legs are amputated
Uh. Look closer. Those are toes.

More people went bonds, but they don't talk about it as much because it was a nice, simple and fulfilling ending. Massacre had a lot more to discuss.

Does this Toki count?

Just arrived n Ginza.

That's Nintendo for you. You're talking about the company that removed a story mode from Smash Bros Wii U because someone put the SSBB cutscenes online before release.

The endgame special armor shop, everything there is super expensive.

good to know about Navarre and Dagda. I thought until the fairy forest was rough on war, now I think it's evening out. I'm also more aware how to build my party, which could be contributing to why it's been challenging but not deadly. so rn I personally think smirk is op. but yo I looooooveeeee what they did with hama and mudo. makes me keep them even on physically built demons

I want to like this game. desu I do, it's what they told me they were giving me; as you said, a remade, fan-servicey smt IV: 2.

I just don't feel immersed. oh well, I still have hope

When do I fuck asahi?

WHERE'S ALL THE R34

Ah okay. Well I pirated the DLC, so I can always money grind.

Black card store.

oh, my dude, you have more than enough time
I was near end game when I started throwing my pals under the bus

Where is this armour store?

Toki has more art and porn than Asahi. I'm serious, check the boorus and pixiv.

I got a "black card" from a challenge quest, where do I take it?

Not exactly true. I've played games where it's supported. Atlus decided it wasn't worth the effort I guess, but I guess I should expect it by now from them.

anons, press home while playing the game and load miiverse
be astonished at what you see

sure it's slow as all fuck but it is an option

SMT games that aren't persona barely get any r34, and most of it is homolust anyway.

All Tokis are welcome

Holy shit the music in IV is so fucking good
That boss battle music gets my dick diamonss

So....

I'm at the Seal no demon activations and I just wanna ask...

Was that Walter/Jonathan moment early on really the only time I'll get to see them again?

Fuck, I liked them better than a lot of the klutzes in the party.

Also partner rankings?

Mother Toki is best Toki.

It really is fucking godly, the final bosses are amazing, both versions

Probably in the same place it was last time. Behind an army of fuckers with Macca Beam.

All of you have shit taste in waifus.

>353436893

I don't know where it was in IV.

I don't want to spoil it because it's a great moment, but no, Walter and Jonathan do come back in bonds.

Ginza behind the northern door

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SMT always had top tier demonfus, but IVA is where human girls really shine. Well, two of them, at least.

They make a bit of an appearance about 3/4 of the way through the game, and a big appearance at the very end.

Navarre
Asahi
Nozomi
Isabeau
Toki
Hallalujah
Gaston

This list only really applies until each character's big awakening, at which point it changes around somewhat. Gaston becomes really good near the end of the game.
Certain partners are also better for different things. Toki is the best for grinding, Navarre is the best for bosses but not much use elsewhere, Nozomi is just all-around good but not the best at anything, Asahi falls off in the midgame and comes back in the lategame, etc.

Toki just looks like some sort of weird goblin to me.

>Asahi
>>>>>>shine

More like dine

Thanks, I'll probably head on out since I don't want to get spoilered too much.

Is Gaston really that shit?

It's because he eats up press turns, isn't it

>IVA is where human girls really shine.
Nope.

Yeah. His AI is also awful. If the enemy reflects physical, he just won't give a fuck, he'll attack straight into it and cancel out your entire turn on top of giving the enemy smirk.
At the end he gets pierce all though, and his attack power goes way up, so he becomes pretty decent.

You mean fine right?

Thank you.

>partner rankings
in terms of what? Party use? I'd say

Navarre > Asahi > Toki > Isabeau > Halleluyah > Nozmi = Gaston

Navarre handles buffs and since partners do not need MP his Debilitate, Doping is crucial. Plus his AI knows weaknesses so he'll tell you some bosses weakness by using a stone.

Asahi heals fusiously. Can't ever go wrong with that

Toki can pierce since very early, debuff early on while also dishing damage and can end some battles before they even begin, specially Hordes.

Isabeau does a little bit of everything. Healing, Buffing and damage, bu is kind of inconsistent

Halleluyah grants protection to ailments, which can really help against some bosses and deals tons of damage. Has the flaw of being hot garbage 2/3rds of the game before going DemiKids.

Nozomi has good tools, good damage, inflicts ailments, but will waste all of her turns taking pictures instead.

Gaston deals amazing damage, attacks the whole screen or multiple times. Hell he even gets Pierce. Problem is he'll consume YOUR tuns doing so and can miss, eating your turns. Specially bad early on before he gets Pierce and afterwards he doesn't breaks the HP gap.

Sure is a letdown that Lucifer wasn't in SMT IV. Maybe he'll come back in V!

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He's better later on, but for the most part he's strictly worse Toki. Before his upgrade you'll probably only use him on the bosses he specifically designed to help with.

i can cum to this music
youtu.be/A6cSbof7Pik

No, dine. As in eat. You can tell she's always upset, so something's must be really eating her.

>my fucking face when they brought this music back in SMT4:A for the
medusa rematch

I actually like Asahi, so I'll probably avoid this, even if I usually favor the "Burn it all down and start over" problem solving route.

>he thinks he can avoid it

They re-use it a few other times, for seemingly no reason. Probably because the new boss music is nowhere near as good.

Other than the Divine Powers boss music which is fucking awesome
youtube.com/watch?v=snTakHqVAn4

>Avoid it

>In SMT 4A you were YHVH in the makings.
B-but in this you're supposed to be the FUCKING AKIRA the guy who is the leader of the army (or some sort) and the founder of Mikado right? (he's supposed to climb only to get his sister if I recall well)

>so I'll probably avoid this

>Went the last of the shrines to turn off the Mandala thing
>Fight the last guardian
>Now fight the Inanna ghost thing
>Now fight Maitreya
Fuck I don't have enough Chakra pots for this bullshit

Well if it's unavoidable I may just enact a scorched universe policy.

If you bitch out and don't go massacre
maybe, honestly I don't know

because I didn't bitch out

Why is flynn always so smug?

That's actually the only way to make it so she's not dead

>14 years old
>Fuck you eyes for half the game
>14 years old
>Wants to hold you down and rape you

Jesus fuck how did Atlus get her approved in the West. Like fuck there isnt even any "But she is a 10000 year old dragon stuff!" Its just straight loli rape machine.

yes, but we mean ideologically, not literally. The gimmick of Apocalypse is that Dagda is tempering you to become a godslayer that will eventually outmatch and kill YHVH. In doing so, however, you become little different than YHVH. Your options are to stick with Dagda and become a god, or to stick to your humanity and bring peace.

Finisht he game, you'll understand more about Akira.

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>Ryuji has Jonathan's outfit
That ain't right.

He went world of LUK

He's just born that way.

>Like fuck there isnt even any "But she is a 10000 year old dragon stuff!"

There literally is
She started acting like that once Inanna got into her

Maitreya is fine so long as you don't smirk him. The first time I fought him I didn't realize "all weaknesses are protected" meant "all weaknesses now drain."

So I got completely fucked by that.

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No wonder demons would get super pissed and start missing when attacking him. Just look at that fucking smirk.

So what's this I hear about no items or demons for I guess, Anarchy?

Do I at least keep my Demon Compendium?

She certainly stopped trying to jump on my dick after I expelled Inanna

guess what route I took

>Worthless submissive

Cant wait to kill her.

>Jesus fuck how did Atlus get her approved in the West.

Contrary to what most western video game companies would like you to believe, it's actually not that hard. Because of the way video game companies act, people think you can't have kids involved in lewd stuff in entertainment in America, but that's pretty far from the truth. It's not a game, but just look at the underage gangbang in the sewers in Stephen King's Book "IT".

If you were a nice guy all game and decide to be a dick at the end, you lose all of your inventory but keep your equipped items.

If you were a dick all game and decide to be a nice guy at the end, you lose all of your summon demons but keep your compendium.

Start throwing your friends under the bus before the cosmic egg and don't even worry about it

So does this count as headbutting if he fucks something

>try to debuff and buff myself vs lucifer
>he actually debuffs you and removes his
>merk just let it happen
angel scum confirmed for shitter

Beta.

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Because she never acts on it. She's just suggestive, and there's no shortage on underage characters being suggestive in...pretty much every form of media.

>friends

Now that's the right attitude

>Wants to hold you down and rape you

I only see cute here, no sexual
No clue what you're talking about

Merk also has Dekaja and Dekunda. For me it was the opposite. Merkebah was bitchy with the buffs, but Lucifer ran the whole match at -3 Str and Def.

>excited for Nozomi to be a party member when scans dropped for FINAL since I liked her a lot
>voiced by a grufff broad who talks like a teenager out of a 90s cartoon
>turns on me out of nowhere acting like it's my fault and then trying to act like she's the good guy after our home gets slaughtered while she was away

The "Kiss my ass." option should've been for her. Such a contrived event. Aside from that I've been enjoying the game a lot though I don't feel a lot of the new music is that great for some reason.

He gets all the demon pussy, everyone treats him like Jesus, and with a new protag at the helm he gets to turn into Uncle Dante.

>Nozomi: Sorry guys I gotta rat on the hunters association


Lost a lot of points with me. I still sorta like her but damn I thought she'd be more chill about it.

Yeah I do but I think I'm gonna be patient because I really want to play on Suicide.

Some user said that is really worth.

*I will

Asahi was more useful, free Smirks are great

>Nanashi literally has a deity with the power to resurrect people and a plan to destroy the entire universe
>"yeah guys, let's just keep this a secret between us, nothing bad can come from that"

Just reached tokyo yesterday, how much worse will the game get at this point

So you're playing IV?
The game doesn't necessarily get worse, it's just that the difficulty drops drastically and never recovers.

If all of SMT IV were as difficult as it is until Medusa, it would have been a much better game.

Nothing good comes from telling the association. Nanashi is their only hope and she nearly got him executed while maintaining her bullshit chipper attitude.

Also, if you want someone to side with you instead of the angry Irish genocide machine, don't fucking backstab them.

>She fucking KNOWS this guy is trying to sway Nanashi every step of the way
>It's still his fault.

The point was it was the wrong time to suddenly pin blame on the MC for something out of his control. Hell, she even says in her email the next day "humanity can't afford to be fighting among themselves" when the divine powers were about to wreck shit. Except that's what happens because it takes their focus off surviving and having a silly pow wow.

It just seemed like such a dumb decision to me especially since it's not like they weren't fucked before anyway.

WAT THE FUCK SESHA YOU MORPHING NIGGER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

try to beat the fiends (or even meet them) and play the DLC if you want difficulty

>nothing good comes from telling the association
Sure, but would you rather they find out now or later? The fact that nothing in particular happened except for you getting yelled at for releasing goddamn Krishna means it was probably a good idea.

>don't fucking backstab them
She said to your face that she had to tell the association so that shit wouldn't get any worse than it already was. That's not a backstab, that's being responsible and owning up to your actions.

>Nothing good comes from telling the association. Nanashi is their only hope

>bonds route

She didn't blame him in the slightest. She wasn't even mad. She just said she couldn't keep it a secret from the association, which makes sense.
The hunters are retarded for blaming Nanashi, considering you even get the option to refuse to open the ark and Dagda just controls your body anyway. But that's not Nozomi's fault.

I played the other 3DS SMT and it was really goddamn hard. I climbed down the tower, got to the city, the game opened up, and I got lost and kept going into dungeons that had impossible to kill enemies so I dropped the game like a rock.

But now I see this cute anime girl in the sequel and am feeling regret for not gitting gud and beating the other game so I can enjoy this one with such a pretty waifu in it.

So can I please have some tips for the other 3DS game? I'm going to start it over and try to finish it.

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Fuse demons
Use buffs
Stop being bad

Yeah playing 4 and kinda blogging about it in the past threads
Medusa was fucking me sideways until only 2 demons were left, I'm upset as shit about the lost exp but I don't want to suffer through the intro anymore. I appreciate the break for now even if it will make things worse in the long run.
Tokyo music is GOAT though.

Elaborate on fiends, I only plan to play through it once and jump into IVA, so I want to take as much as I can with me on my way through

Own up to your mistake.

It's not like they're hiding hoping nobody finds out and have actively been trying to unfuck the situation. If they execute you they'd be fucking idiots since they need all the help they can get.

Save often and just reload when you die
Stop crying when you die it happens just keep going on
Use buffs and debuffs
Go magic and get every element on you to exploit weaknesses
Pay attention to the game, it explains a lot to you
kill yourself waifufag

The Fiends are the original super bosses of the base game, though they're random encounters, and more random then ever, so get used to wasting a shit load of time.

The DLC has even stronger super bosses, but they also provide some very strong tools to deal with them.

The game gets easier once you get down to Tokyo. The map is awful to navigate in IV, I'll agree, but just stick to where the game wants you to go first. I assume you're talking about demon domains, which are dungeons scattered around the map, and those are option side areas that vary in difficulty.

Also like said.
Fuse your demons into stronger demons the second they unlock all of their skills, don't wait.
Buffs and debuffs are mandatory for boss fights.
Always recruit every new demon you meet.
Remember to trust the friendly angel Mastema, he's your best friend and has only your best interests in mind.
Consumable items are very useful.
If you want the best build, every level spend three points on DEX, one on AG, one on LU, and learn the best gun skills you can (don't listen to magic is for faggot gaylords).
Learn the move Charge from a demon that has it as soon as it's available.

Don't fight the dungeons' bosses, just use them to grind and fuse demons.
Use buffs and debuffs on bosses. and if the boss is more than a few levels higher than you dont bother fighting til you have a good team, they aren't going anywhere.
Just keep playing and learn the spells and skills. I started with 4 and worked my way through it and then played other SMT games, once you get the hang of it you'll probably love them. Press turn is my fave jrpg battle system.

I wanted to do the fiends. I think I managed to run into Chemtrails once and after that experience I decided it wasn't worth it. Christ, the encounter rate is abysmal.

You would be corect IF the game let you tell her. The game FORCES it to be a surprise like I'm hiding information.

Because its the GAMES choice and not mine Nozomi is a traitorous bitch who I cant wait to kill.

Not him but do you pick up hama and mudo as well?
I just have the 4 main elements and 3 buffs on my flynn

fiends show up after alignment lock.

1/256 chance of spawning in basically random locations. All of them except David and Harlot Mother are super bosses. 5 press turns, and if you block their element too much they almighty spam you.

realistically nobody does them.

>enemy spawns right under me, immediately first striking me because there is literally nothing i can do to prevent this
>stun voice, head smash, entire party locked down and murdered
GOOD GAME HAHAH XDDD IT WAS SO GOOD I LAFFED AND LAFFED THIS IS AGOD FAME IT SO GOOD GSOOGO SO GOOD I LOVE SHIN MT SUCH A GOWOD... GOOD! GOOD GAME, I LAUGHED SO HARD I POOPD MY PANTS A LIL HAHA:):):):):):) SUCH A GOOD GAME GOD ISNT REAL IDIOTS

To be fair Chemtrails is the worst one to find. 30 seconds between each potential encounter.

INSTANT DEATH, NOTHING I COULD DO!!!!
That's BULLSHIT, and the game KNOWS IT! THE GAME KNOWS IT!!!

Maybe I'll just do the DLC then, thanks. Speaking of, what exactly is it/how do I access it? Haven't gotten it yet.

Wasn't that just added in the localisation of SJ?

Ok, thanks for the advice.

Hama and Mudo are very situational and not highly recommended. I prefer keeping those to specialized demons. Apocalypse makes them more general by changing them from "chance to instant kill" to just "light/dark damage, chance to instant kill if smirking."

Can you get into this game without playing SMTIV? I was playing it but I lost my save file.

He wanted easy mode and dexfagging requires you to be slightly less retarded than cheesing with magic

>Dagda lets you continue from right where you were standing the second you die for completely free
>"wah wah I got instakilled by a one in a million chance in an RPG, a genre based on dice rolls"

When do i unlock satan for fusion?
I kinda overleveled trying to get through the fiend dungeon and overkilled him before he gave me dialogue choices

You can use them if you want.

Just know they aren't super useful or anything.

Yes, read the database if you have story questions.

Sort of. It's an alternate timeline of SMT IV's neutral ending.

If you don't mind spoilers for SMT IV:
Walter went full chaos and fused with Lucifer, Jonathan went full law and fused with Merkahbah. The game picks up as Flynn is on his way to kill the both of them and save Tokyo. This game is an alternate scenario where some Irish deity named Dagda interferes and Flynn is basically taken out of commission while you deal with new-goon-in-town Krishna as well as Lucifer/Merkahbah.

I suppose you can keep an instakill demon if certain random encounters trouble you but they would be a waste on flynn

Yep, in the japanase version the MC is from Japan while in the other versions the MC is from America.

Clear the game once.

Well, this makes me look forward to Massacre even more.

>Clear the game once.
Fuck

>Got past Naraku
>But somehow Tokyo is too hard

user, the game is supposed to DROP IN DIFFICULTY when you reach the city.

Nah dude you don't need to play games to enjoy sequels! In fact you don't even need to play the sequels anymore either, just check out one of the many insightful lets plays on your local Youtube!

Just to add to that so that people don't start bitching about shitty localizers: Atlus of Japan told AtlusUSA to make the MC American in the English version because they wanted people from America to be able to identify with the MC (which is really odd because they never cared about it before).

Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

Wasn't the gimmick supposed to be that every localization would use its own country as a reference? Like the german version would have a german mc and crew, the french version a french mc etc

IMO everyone saying the game suddenly drops in difficulty and never recovers are lying. Unless you grinded or used the xp dlc there's lots of challenging boss fights throughout the game and the random encounters can fuck you up regularly. Plus it's all going to be different depending on what demons you fuse and what skills they have.

>Wasn't the gimmick supposed to be that every localization would use its own country as a reference?

Yeah I think so.

I'm not the one asking the million dollar retard question "do I have to play the first game before playing the direct sequel to understand it"

I don't think anyone would, especially considering how comedic it is in Japanese SJ. It's so JAPAN YEAH it makes America fuck yeah look tame by comparison. It's so JAPAN YEAH it makes that Gate anime look unbiased.

>there's lots of challenging boss fights throughout the game

Eh, besides Xi Wangmu, everything after Medusa is pretty easy. And if you fuse regularly, random encounters won't give you any trouble.

And if you have Hama/ Mudo, random encounters can't even touch you.

Post your cutest Tokis.

Or they're series veterans and stomped the rest of the game

>Unless you grinded or used the xp dlc there's lots of challenging boss fights

Basic bitch detected

>Xi Wangmu
I just beat it
How was it supposed to be difficult? I buffed up to +1 ATK +1 DEF +2 HIT then the dialogue occured, giving me another chance to buff up to like, +3 ATK +3 HIT and then I killed her 2 turns later while barely taking any damage at all

Where the FUCK is the Kiba Storage? I just want to meet Mara, dammit! I just don't know where the Joto district is.

>that shitty ass meme image

>Explit weaknesses with World of MAG
>Permasmirk with Luck
>Instakill wipes encounters
>Sujukaja ensures bosses lose turns and your guys smirk
>Fusing often allows you to do all sorts of bullshit

It's only hard if you go World of STR.

I think that's south of the hometown

Hmm, of all the post-Naraku and Tower bosses in the game, that was the only one that gave me a game over. I should go replay IV sometime and try again.

>Terminal to Toyosu terminal
>Walk outside

Seriously can you not read the text above the map on the bottom screen?

This is the Kinshiactivating transptransport complete

>"Once we mass produce the Metatron..."
I dig the mechanical sound effects he gets

>implying Toki wont just assassinate them all the second the pop up.

>Implying Toki wouldn't be too busy getting impregnated at the time to deal with that.

That was just Inanna. Toki is really a pure and perfect girl.

So do navvare anf Gaston have a loli fetish?
I remember Gaston always being the one who was the most worried about Toki.

go kill your friends boyo

Navarre will take any girl he can get.
Gaston, being raised as a lawfag, is tempted by that sweet, sweet chaos DFC because it's new to him.

Why haven't embraced Maruology into your heart and live life to the fullest Cred Forums?

Is World of LUK a viable build? Can it, for example, beat the DLC bosses?

AYE LADDEH, AH LIVE ALL ALONE IN ME SWAMP AND YOU DON'T SEE ME COMPLAININ

HUMANS ER ALWAYS MEDDLIN IN ME SWAMP, COMIN WITH THEIR FRIENDS TO FIGHT ME
THEY DON'T KNOW THAT BEIN ALONE MADE ME STRONG

Is there a more bro tier demon?

What happened to his legs?
And yes, it's called Karasu Tengu,

Doi is really obsessed with spikes, namely spikey legs.
It's a shame, I think he's gotten a lot better since IV and I like a lot of his designs, but he'll never be the master that Kaneko is.
Kaneko has a few design things he obviously likes, like the whole upper lip shading and eyeliner thing, but there's not a lot you can point to and go "yup, that's that thing he always does when he's trying to make a demon look cool" like with Doi.

King Frost and Maruo are only ones who almost wrecked my shit for some reason. I am at Shesha 3 right now. Is it like IV and the rest of the game is gonna be easy?

>everyone calls Marua as "looking cool"
>Maruo is a fatass
>Tokyo is a demon infested hellhole where everyone is on the verge of starvation because no food
>therefore being fat means he has the food to get obese and is strong enough to safely eat it

no wonder so many people got behind Maruology

Shesha 3 is "the third time you repel it" or "shesha third form"? Because there are lots of bullshit battles as you go on, including triple bosses or shit like that. Krishna is gonna save the shit out of you.

SMT IV Apocalypse has the best gameplay in the series.

Can I fuse mitamas like in DeSu to give demons certains skills more easily?
I just killed my friends, but I realized that I have been playing the game completely wrong.

No.

You gotta reverse fuse the demon you like with the broken skills you want and then farm incenses and grimoires to make them as overpowered as MC.

I'm still really shocked that he didn't show up with Demifiend in tow to pit you against one another.

Then I have a long and arduos path ahead of me because my demons are completely fucked skill wise.

Accept the quest from the Challenge Quest menu, and it'll teleport you there.

You should probably do the DLC quests after alignment lock though or else you won't understand what's going on.

He's a Jehuty.

how difficult it is to get the neutral ending in this game?

Bullshit in the OG game, Neutral is the only real ending in apocalypse.
The only thing is that you can go edgelord neutral or Friendship is magic neutral.

You literally just have to tell the Law and Chaos factions to fuck themselves. In fact, if you choose to join them, you get a bad ending.

The real choice is whether you go full edgelord or save the day with ~the power of friendship~, and that's another choice (though you do get penalized if your choice isn't in line with how you've been playing the game ie you're not going to get a freebie with the friendship route if you've been kicking puppies all game)

very easy

there are two pivotal choices you can make in the game: first is to align with Law or Chaos which are the shitty endings with less content

you can choose to align with neither and head for the Neutral route, which then branches off into Anarchy and Bonds. both of those routes are basically the same content wise but with obvious differences in tone and story

IS THAT MOMMY?!

>new Kylie flash SOON

my dick cant wait