Can a video game with excessive sexual content be a good game?

Depends if you're into sexual content. If you're not into it, why buy and complain about it?

The thing is that Gane would never be sold outside Japan. Maybe nor Japan would sell it, so the question is, if you have a game with a shot why blew it with things that have "nothing to do" mechanics and gameplay?

yes,too bad that 99% of them are crap.

What is excessive?

I fucking loved Kamidori. I have even recommended it to some normie friends.

American developers are prudes. They've perfected making violence work in a tasteful situation, but sex is just treated as vulgar.

Japs also seem to have a hard time and just treat it as entertainment, makes a weird tonal shift like the beach scene in SMT 4A.

Overusage of sexual content where its not needed is pandering as a resort for more views

How long does Kamidori take to beat?

Yes.

Because they are usually put into a game due to the game being bad to begin with, and relying on it to sell.

>muh violence analogy
don't tell me you actually believe this

That's because Kamidori is fairly prudish and the CGs are as bad as they are nonexistent.

Visual content tying in with gameplay is a sign. Gore and violence meshes well with combat gameplay to make a better experience overall. Sexual visuals aren't going to do that at all for a game with combat, since they're not supposed to go together at all.

Now h-games though, that's where sexual visuals are going to fucking shine.

>excessive sexual content
This is subjective.

>be a good game
This is subjective.

>OP is a faggot
This is objective.

>ps4 controller
>looks like a ps3 game

That's definitely Yakuza.

Would you have it any other way?

Ding.

Dunno man, I havent got any other h-rpg to compare it to to be honest, other than Sengoku Rance and Tears to Tiara?

I'm going to start learning Japanese. I'm sick of missing out.

this picture always makes me bust a gut

Yes.

user have you played Monster Girl Quest

Learning Japanese is hard tho.

ayy

Yes but Americans are fucking scared of sex in games so they'll all say it's shit.
However extreme violence is okay in their eyes but sex is not.
Americans are the most cucked race.

because they're insecure and don't want their normie friends knowing they jack off to video games

totally wrong. americans love nudity and sex. if some celeb has a nipple pop out by accident or a sex tape gets leaked people will be all over that shit. what's actually under pressure is gratification that doesn't involve a real woman benefiting in some way. anything that would lessen the control of the vaginal jew is shamed.

>The thing is that Gane would never be sold outside Japan.

No, the thing is that game would never be sold on consoles, inside Japan or outside. I know we all get up in arms about western censorship around here but the Jap console manufacturers censor too.

There's a reason all the porn games are on PC.

Sex is not treated the same way violence is for a reason. It's more valuable and more personal, and so it's protected far more. Many people here simply can't understand just how important it actually is, so you treat it as lowbrow, masturbatory entertainment. You have no idea, Cred Forums. No idea at all.

Japanese is not hard at all though.

Honestly it looks easier than Norwegian. With that you have preconceived notions of sentence structure and some words are similar to English too.

Jap vowels never change in tone unlike western languages. Hardest part will be remembering all dat Kanji.

I hope you have more reasons to start learning moon runes than playing some lame H games.

As long as it's not the selling point.
It often is.

As a game, MGQ is outright bad. Its porn is okay, its writing is about what you would expect (terrible), but its combat is bad. And the way you "earn" your H-scenes? By sandbagging? That's bad design. I don't care how many stupid Japs do it, that's still bad design.

Just cause its' an H-Game doesn't mean it gets a free pass. Have some standards, man.

It's super hard. Banging out the two alphabets is easy enough but grammar and runes suck ass.

Of course man. Theres a veritable wealth of entertainment I feel I've missed out on, had a general love of Japan since my younger years.

I don't watch anime. I feel I have to say that whenever I mentioned learning Jap.

Same with excessive violence

I prefer balanced mix of sex and violence.

AIDS

Correction: Americans love sex and sexuality, they just don't want to be seen enjoying it in public for the most part.

you're one of those retards that spouts that rape is somehow worse than murder, aren't you

Excessive violence hasn't even really been much of a thing as of late, it's just serviceable and there at best most of the time.

Games that rely on gameplay can have pretty much any amount of sexual content and not suffer from it.

Games that rely on story can't have excessive sexual content interfere with the narrative or it feels weird, like if max from life is strange had giant tits in a low cut top for no reason it would clash with the realism the game tries to give it's world

Yes of course. I want regressive Americans to get out. You only understand shooting people in the head.

because sex isn't gameplay.
sex is like a really specific thing that's supposed to be private and it's retarded and awkward to obsess about it.

This is false though. There are plenty of fantastic games with violence (Doom, Blood, Ninja Gaiden for example) but almost none of the good ones have sexual pandering

Nah, I enjoy good raping with killing afterwards and then second helping of raping the corpse.

Nice job immediately turning to insults.

don't pretend eurabia is much different. even if they have naked chicks in their shampoo commercials I bet a girl will still call you a pig if you check out her titties too much at the topless beach.

Enjoying commercialized sex is different from sexualizing other people. Don't be silly.

Low test beta detected.

High test males such as myself can appreciate sexuality charged content 24/7, and believe literally everything is better with it added on top.

So is killing people for fun, that hasn't stopped anyone.

I hope you get the most of out it when you finally learn it, I personally don't see the need to learn it since the entertainment has been dipping in quality over the years now.

wow, guess I should have murdered you instead of just raping your feelings

I agree with you that console is out on this one but still, the porn pc games can barely be called porn games... at least of what I know, Rapelay (which ever it's fucking name is) is the only truly porn game I know: it's about fucking and fucking alone and you can't just buy it.

Nobody sells it. It's not translated to English. What's the excuse there?

Excessive violence is more likely to serve an actual gameplay purpose than excessive sexual content.

Violence has often been glorified in American society, especially after WWII and 9/11, fighting "bad guys" has been seen as a mark of a hero; Not to mention, tons of other guys from outside the U.S. have used violence as a way to progress a story or create a scene. Combining these two leads to many forms of media including violence in both making the protagonist look strong and giving him an actual physical enemy to battle; lots of stories would be boring if they were just talking(there are many exceptions, but physical acts are easier to portray).

Now, you may say it's from Christian influence in the U.S., but sex appeal-

I feel the need to break here, sex is often used in American media. In fact, sex is so often used, directors sometimes feel forced into adding a useless romance into the story just because it's staple. There's a difference between sex and sex appeal.

-is not common in U.S. media, and I think it's because they have nothing to do with it. Hollywood will hire hot actors, yes, but they hire hot people because every protagonist has historically been attractive. When they hire ugly people, they're good at acting and being made fun of. But otherwise, Hollywood and American video games do not find sex appeal useful in their content. While violence can be used as a tool, sex appeal is complete marketing. I think Americans just have a work is work, play is play mentality; when they go see movies, they see comedies and dramas. When they play video games, they play it for how fun the game is(or for nu-males the """story"""). And when they want sex appeal, they go the full 9 yards and actually look at porn.

Because of this, it's natural for someone like this to think that if a game advertises it's women's "assets" a bit too much, they'll think it's the only thing going for it, which is maybe 50% of the time true.

Also, that whole "objectification is my soggy knee" probably turns devs off from doing it. not complaining on that desu

don't give up. i believe in you.

violence is much more fun then overrated sex.

sexual appeal and 'visual content' go together period, as long as there's a human character in the game.

In fact, there's much more room for sexual appeal in games than there is for realistic violence, yet the violence is always much more catered to than the sexual appeal.

Just admit that there's a double standard that you buy into

A DEAL'S

came here to post this. Most games with excessive sexual content just try to be that. some do it better than the others but but rance is an h game that actually tries to be a normal game as well

Wtf are you talking about? Rapelay does have English patches. But there's almost no reason to play it since there are better sex Sims. Custom maid 3d 2 and honey select are great porn games, and I've been dumping magnum loads on the daily to them in VR. Would recommend playing.

Once again, you prove that you don't understand why sex and violence are treated differently. Rape isn't worse than murder, and murder isn't worse than rape. They're different.
You're going to see more people get up in arms about sex because it's more relatable than murder. And it's also something that is arguably more important. Creation vs destruction-
but of course creation has nothing to do with it to most people here because they only care about what they get off to, or with SJWs and feminists because being loose and having an abortion is fine.

Dungeon Travelers 2 is a damn good game.

Please consult with your primary care physician if you see signs of low testosterone. Low libido, low energy levels, and lack of random elections should be warning signs. Low test may inhibit your chances of finding a sexual partner and eventually a significant other or loved one.

60fps would be nice

>says the Cred Forumsirgin, who plays and wants more sex games to replace their lack of a real sex life

Absolute dumbfucks.

>Random elections

My sex life has no bearing on your personal health. I say this only as someone who cares about you and your hard dick. If you don't provide cummies who will?

Holy shit, she's in the game?

Is it possible to have too much sex in a game?

Hey nerd have you even like beaten that game you nerd its a good game you nerd and its sad you nerd

>violent content for example
ignoring porn games (TheKlub/SexVilla, vns)
violence is more often than not the by product of direct gameplay, dismemberment in Dead Space or Ninja Gaiden 2 for example
sexual content is in most cases visual fluff, or a reward from a choice(which I wouldn't put the same as direct gameplay because autism). In other words, something that doesn't contribute to direct gameplay in the least.
A game that is focused/overly focused on sexual content is more or less hiding the fact that the game has literally nothin going for it Dead or Alive/Senran Kagura being slight exceptions, whereas a game focused on violence at least implies other/extra substance will be in there Splatterhouse reboot being a slight exception

America: Christian prudes trying to cover up as much sex as possible because muh god

Japan: Low birthrates mean you gotta put sex in games to make the teens horny and procreate

It's that simple guys.

As a general rule, no. There are a few exceptions like Sengoku Rance but ultimately a good game would never shut out most of its installbase by including sex and a sexy game would never focus on actually being good.

The country that censors its porn? I think you mean Europe m8

If you could aug your body, why would you opt to stay fat?

there's tons of stuff in games that don't directly contribute to gameplay. music, sound effects, visual design, writing, etc. thinking that titties need to be justified any more than making a monster blue instead of green just shows that you're insecure.

Because barring very few genres, it's almost impossible to not have a video have with violence.

sexual content of any kind should be considered bad in any form of media

I'm sick of every movie, book, and game forcing some shitty sex scene or showing people make out. You can't even watch any tv channel without commercials having any of these shown.

But sex scenes in games usually don't amount to anything more than awkward cutscenes that would be better off not even being in the game, since they are more useful for watching outside of it.

>Nobody sells it. It's not translated to English. What's the excuse there?

Japanese are xenophobic. Few of the porn publishers in Japan have accepted localization and publication requests from western publishers because they see it as "cultural appropriation". Illusion are especially notorious for disliking the west, they even go so far as to geo-block their website they hate the filthy gaijin so much. And no, this is not because of the "outcry" over rapelay, they were already doing it well before that game was released.

There are western devs who develop porn games, mostly browser based shit and a lot seems to originate from Russia. The fact is that porn, contrary to popular belief, just doesn't really sell well enough anywhere, even Japan, to justify large investment. That's why the majority of it is cheaply produced, barebones crap.

you're missing the point. you think it has to "amount to something" in order to be justified, when anything else gets a pass just because it's cool or because someone wanted it in the game.

This.

A lot of weeby Vita dungeon crawlers are lewd, but really good games. Demon Gaze is another good example.

Custom 3D is trash and if you need mods to make your porn game be porn, your game is not a porn game in the first place...

The only mechanic in rapelay (clicking to make the girl get excited) would get you way more interested than whatever custom gas to offer

Fucking a blue man with a dick without textures is bad . Rapelay made me want to jerk off, custom not even close.

Also, having to get all of this the "illegal" way was my point. There isn't an truly porn game, there are only semi lewd games with uncensoring mods...

Yeah I think Japan's declining birth rate has to do with japs jerking it off to video game characters and cartoons rather than pursue action with real girls.

Sex sells, and it's easy, people don't want to admit to it.

Yeah I'm sure the 3% of the male population that actually enjoys video games and anime is the root cause of Japan's birthrate issues.

Yes.
Image related

>American's hate sex

>Says the probable Yurupoor whose continent thought Cindy was too sexy when fans were told to give feedback compared to Americans.

Actually, current research shows sex doesn't sell. In fact, it can have an adverse effect on your sales.

This may be a difficult concept to grasp for some around here but the whole world is not as sex starved as you are.

Sex and Violence both have to be justified to an extent, because they each raise the rating of the game, limiting their scope and budget/expected sales to make up for butting those things in the game. In the west, sex raises it more than violence, and it is the reverse in japan.

of course

I think Bayonetta is an example of excessive sex that isn't a bad game.

I wish there were some bits I wish that had toned down. The excessive visuals were fine but I think they just made her say too many flagrantly sexual things, which made it sound like she was kinda stupid or that's all she was thinking about like her lines after killing things or nearly everything she said to Luka. I don't mind her being predatory but I would have rather it was obvious she was fucking with people instead of being seemingly serious about it and therefore someone who was actually witty and smart while being outrageously sexual.

I guess what I'm saying is that I wish she was less of a caricature in terms of personality.

>whole world is not as sex starved as you are.
It almost is when you remember the actual age-range most people on Cred Forums fall into. Their world revolves around it.

Yes

Dragons Crown is great

>Europeans thought a woman was too sexy
>Americans thought a man was too manly

kek, you're all fags

My nigga.

Rance is pretty much the perfect counter point. VI, Sengoku and Quest are all fantastic games, because developer actually aimed to make a good game, and knew what they were doing.
It's just that most people who put lots of sex in games don't care about making the game part good as well.

>Americans thought a man was too manly

Well, I mean the complaint seems kind of justified when the main characters look something out of a Korean heart throbbing boy band.

you mean 3% of their population still has honor and samurai blood in their veins. the other 97% are marrying pillows with pictures of their favorite character.

But what if I have TOO much sex in real life and play videos games in some fruitless attempt replace that constant need for sex with usually random and anonymous grillz?

I've tried all forms of escapism from my main form of escapism (constant sex) from life.

First Post Best Post.

good game, shame the creator seems to have vanished off the face of the earth, would gladly spend money to support if he continued making VNs

To be fair, I remember hearing most people considered Cindy to be condescending rather than offensive. They were put off by how heavy handed the fan service was, not by the existence of fan service at all.

Yes
Witcher games come to mind

nigga you just went full fucking retard

I agree that being over the top in how much sexual content you put in can be negative, but can you source those studies that show that adding sexual content is the issue?

And in what group does it not sell? It seems unlikely that sex is going to have a negative impact on sales among all demographics.

But I agree mostly, that as said, most people here are teenagers, so sex is literally everything to them, and it's inconceivable that people are different, because teenagers are shit at that sort of stuff. They'll grow out of it.

What game? Does the whole thing read like a /r9k/ strawman?

Why do people think Americans hate nudity and sex scenes? You realize how popular shit like GoT, that throws tits in everywhere, is in America? The people complaining about sex are a not-even particularly vocal minority. Most people only give a shit when they feel like it's being too blatantly pandering or is inserted too much.

Witcher, Bayonetta, Metal Gear

My ex loves the witcher.

I said it's all about ploughing sluts and killing monsters.

She said "You make it sound like a bad thing."

I replied "I do that shit IRL; I'm just not a fucking albino."

>Actually, current research shows sex doesn't sell. In fact, it can have an adverse effect on your sales.
The advertising research you're referring to is regarding using sexual advertising to sell non-sexual products. But if your game contains sexual content, then it is a sexual product, and that research doesn't apply -- you can try to make a case for sexual content that seems very detached from the rest of the game perhaps being inserted for the purpose of being advertised, but at that point your going far enough off the road of the research you're referring to that you're into "needs a new study" territory.

you really don't know what you're in for.

They don't even show a nipple, how much of a prude can you be?

>looking for local it work
>see a job posted by the state police
>first line of the job says "Warning: This job will include viewing material of sexual exploitation and abuse of children"
>almost no experience required
is it time for me to be bernd?

so your ex was a slut, and your job is killing camel spiders?

America is basically ruled by christianity (one nation, under god) and it's a very prudish religion, but has millions of followers. GoT is an outlier and gets the "art" excuse. Fucking Pokemon games get censored in America. I literally can't think of a more kid-friendly series than Pokemon in Japan.

Did you even read the post? Their issue wasn't with the sexual content, just that they added innuendo to the point it took away from the character. Or rather, that innuendo was the character.

Not that they don't like sex.

Yes, my ex is a slutty cunt who will get what she has coming to her in the end.

Also, I didn't mean literally physically killing monsters; it was an analogy for 'Doing better at math than Asians at my college and wreking the curve for everyone'.

To me, that's killing monsters.

As for the ploughing, that was literal; I fucks metric tons of college sluts.

Despite what people are saying in this thread it's been proven that almost everyone even women (during trials for a female sexual enhancement cream they found out the cream didn't work at all but porn worked amazingly well and increasing orgasms in women) like to watch other people fuck.

It's at physical activity just like anything else and just like sports it's fun to watch professionals in action.

People need to get over their hang ups.

Am I the only girl around here who thinks that the

>innuendo was the character.
Bayo is sex incarnate. That is the point. Sorry that doesn't appeal to you

F

That's what Bayo is
She's a pure sex and she's almost 4th wall breaking in doing thay, take away that and you take away what she is, change that and you change what she is

Kek, so what you meant was that you're okay at maths and dated the town bike, then got mad because she dumped you?

That is exactly like what happens in the Witcher, you're right.

I understand that, but it's a completely one dimensional character that isn't really compelling in the slightest, because there's nothing to be compelled by. She is simply a method for the writers to add innuendo, and for me personally (as well as that other guy), that gets boring after a while.

They could have kept the sexualisation by not making it seem so serious.

The evidence that sex doesn't sell is in the sales figures.

Porn does not make that much money, relatively speaking. The industry operates the same way as the mobile industry, very few people spend any money but the ones that do tend to spend a lot. People used to joke about how the majority of internet traffic is porn related assuming it to be true because of adages like "sex sells" but the reality is that porn only makes up a tiny fraction of internet traffic.

This is not the 60s anymore, the novelty of the relaxation of strict media content regulations has well and truly worn off. Only pubescent boys and forever alones are eager to see tits crow-barred into every videogame under the sun and, unfortunately for them, the majority of the video game market is not pubescent boys and forever alones, they are people who find that sort of thing to be in poor taste.

Let's look at two examples:

>Haydee
Now I'm not saying it's a bad game.
But it does things that definitely lower its quality as a game and those things are only there to put sex in the focus.
The dev decided that, because their player mode is incredibly sexy and thick, that the playermodel should take up almost 1/2 of the camera view. Sometimes even more, when crawling through vents for example.
Climbing up a ledge when hanging from it, the game makes you press a button once to pull yourself up and get a nice big shot of her ass, then press the button again to actually climb up and stand on the ledge. For the sex? great, I can get a nice look of her amazing ass. For the game? What's the point? Why make it so annoying? I have to do this every single time?

You get the point.

>Mortal Kombat
Finishers are about the same thing as above, for the violoence it's great, for the game it's the most boring thing you skip after you've seen it 3 times.
But here's the point, you CAN skip it, it's optional, and there's many cases of this in violent games. The developers ACTUALLY acknowledge the "game part" and let you enjoy the violence if you want to.
Not so much with sex games, they're very strict with themselves and design their games in that matter to make a point of their sexyness, but forget the "game part" most of the times.
Which is why porn games are really fucking bad on average.

>wants sexualization "ironic" or "tongue in cheek"
nah, the "deadpan" serious way is the only way to go with Bayonetta sexualization

>Projecting.

Kek, I joined the Navy right out of high school and did 8 years; I enrolled college at age of 28 and had the advantage of experience, self-discipline and knowledge over these fresh out of high school 16-18 year old punks.

They thought they were hot shit until they were wrekt by an old salt.

There's no school like the old school and I'm the fucking headmaster.

As for the ex, I was kidding; she's cool, we fucked for 18 months and then got bored and stopped.

ADWR

>you press a button once to pull yourself up and get a nice big shot of her ass, then press the button again to actually climb up and stand on the ledge
Many "cinematic" platformers do that, Splinter Cell does that
the fuck is your point with bitching about it.

Only presentation is relevant. The content could be fucking anything and it'd still be shit if it was handled poorly.

This is so fucking false I'm not sure if you have payed attention to media or not.

Hatred got bashed for having excessive violence. Excessive violence is criticised, but it has at least some ground on the gameplay, but it doesn't make it not bad. MK is a good example, but the thing with MK and Hatred is that they don't try to hide the fact that they're purely gore-driven.

If I was trying to play a game that had excessive violence for no reason and it wasn't the focus of the game, then I'd sure as fuck criticize it. We need to hold our big guns so that when we actually use them it has an effect on us.

For example, I don't criticize DoA Xtreme because it's obviously a fan service game, but it's very grating when fan service for no reason occurs. I can watch porn or erotic shit if I wanted to have titillation. There's even specific video games for that so there's no excuse.

>mfw EOPs will never ever get the other great games by Eushully

Shame about Eushully going to the shitter with Kami no Rhapsody and Sankaiou no Yubiwa. Now they even announced a fucking DMM online game sequel to Himegari. That sure worked for Alicesoft and Toushin Toshi (not it did not, the game closed in like six months and TADA apologized for it on Alicesoft blog).

Someone please tell me who this titty slut is

I'm not familiar with splinter cell, so I don't know if it has some other mechanic to it

but in haydee is 100% nothing but "look at this ass!"
it's sexy as hell but if you make me do stupid things to actually play your game then my enjoyment of it in general is lowered

this kind of argument proves that whoever wrote it doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. christians in america can't even ban gay marriage or abortion. thinking they have any power over video games is retarded.

Yeah, you caught me, I'm projecting my aptitude for maths on you.

And you might want to tone down the boasting about being an almost 30 year old man who still posts and argues with people on Cred Forums, it doesn't make you look cool.

>As for the ex, I was kidding; she's cool, we fucked for 18 months and then got bored and stopped.

Kek, "it was mutual, I swear!" is the best way to instantly know someone got dumped and is insecure about it. People don't just get bored and end amicably after a year and a half of a relationship.

Either way
>I'm a nearing middle aged man who is okay at maths and dated a much younger town bike and argues with people online

Doesn't really sound like Geralt to me.

better question: can a game without it be good?
the answer is no.

She's not one dimensional, did you even play the game?

This is bullshit and you know it. I'm not saying putting sex into your game will make your product automatically gain popularity, but it can save an otherwise unremarkable game from being under the radar. Look at all the weebshit on Steam front page. Shit like Senran Kagura sells purely on that. Certainly not it's not-Musou gameplay.

You are also wrong about the internet traffic thing. Porn DOES constitute a huge traction of the internet traffic, there was this report once by pornhub but I can't seem to remember where I saw it.

They had it banned from the beginning of law until like last year

That's like score 1 for gays and score 239 for christians against gays and their definition of "corrupted sexuality" or whatever.

no activity is inherently better than any other. all value is arbitrary.

> the reality is that porn only makes up a tiny fraction of internet traffic
I don't know if things have changed in the last few years, but my dad used to work for a managed hosting company and almost all of their business was either porn sites or online gambling.

You can be sex incarnate and not sound like an idiot. And I think she sounds kinda dumb because I've met people who talk like her with not a scrap of wit to it.

What I was saying is that I wish there were some moments where she said something that made the player realize that she was aware of her sexuality.

I don't know, I have to make up examples so forgive me. Like, what if she bent over in front of Luka for a cleavage/ass shot and said, "See anything you like?" And he says no and she starts to lean in closer and says, "Reaaallly?"

Like, have her throw out the one-liners like normal but for one boss, make it something irresistible - something that looks like a dildo with tentacles or just a monster with something is pretty much a giant dick. And instead of making another groan-worthy comment she says nothing. And everyone (probably Luka again) says, "No? Got nothing to say?" and she responds with something like, "Come on, that's too easy." or, "What is there to say, it's a giant dick with tentacles." The game is already rated M and she says "Fuck" in the second game, she can make the dick crack if you wanted her to.

I would have settled with a moment where she went, "That's what she said."

Or I would have been happy with a conversation with Rodin or Enzo or Jeanne where they say to her, "You're screwing with that guy's head way too hard" and she says, "I know right?" or "It's adorable how easy it is".

I just wanted her to be smart and not something ripped straight out of an 80's porn plot. It would have made her actually perfect.

I know the caricature is what some people wanted. But the style of caricature is EVERYWHERE in all forms of media especially with hyper-sexualized characters. Bayonetta the character could have not been a caricature while still pulling all the visual insanity it did.

That's what you see.
The thing is she is her own character and yes her primary trait is oversexualization, but she has more to her, the thing is you are taking her for just face value.

lmao can always count on a libtard to get gigatriggered into a text wall by a meaningless throwaway joke

My dream game is to make a fantasy anime cel-shaded game, with character action gameplay, but you can lose armor to become fully naked, and you can romance anyone, even monsters. Basically, it would be a game where you can use fighting or sex to win any encounter. And you'd be able to fuck humans as well with getting better relationships, and you get special abilities from that.

meanwhile you only understand pedophile comics. guess which one is publically more accepted?

the point is they can't do shit about it now. the idea that american games can't have titties because devs are afraid of the jesus lobby is retarded when you consider how many games these days push the gay and tranny agenda.

Oh no, I'm 31 now.

>Argues

Kek, who's arguing?

As for the ex, she was 21 and I was 30; we had a Big Brother/Younger Sister thing going on and it was sweet but eventually one of us was going to get bored of the other. In this case, it was her; might be because her actual brother came home from the Marines?

Who knows but she's been replaced so Bob's your uncle.

>Middle aged

It's that like 40-45?

Besides I'm aging like fine wine, comrade.

go easy on the commando math manlet-kun, user.

No, it does sell. "sex sells" is implies you might get laid if you buy this item, or you get to be or be with a beautiful person. Sex will always sell, even while there is a rise of other gender identification that hasn't stopped production of sexy things or downfall of such.

>add cringe
nah. fuck that

everything in your post sounds awful

>Many "cinematic" platformers do that, Splinter Cell does that
No, in those games you press a button to catch onto the ledge and then another to climb up. In Haydee, you press a button to catch onto the ledge, another to show off her ass as she climbs, and then a third to actually finish climbing up.

Postal Dude, is that you?
Stop lying. The only type of girls you fuck are the fat chicks like your wife

>Sodium chloride levels rising.

Oh fuck.

Is there ANY way to make a good hentai game? I was thinking where you could chose to rape the enemy or kill them after you beat them. That way, you could do what you wanted. Then have a town or something where you can just be a whore or something and fuck all the villagers you can by seducing them.

>Wife.

Sorry, brah but I love my time, money and ploughing much younger sluts.

>Is there ANY way to make a good hentai game?
Make a good game, add hentai. How do people not get this?

What was it like growing up with an abusive father

Depends; is it more of a hentai game or an action game with hentai options?

Or like an RTS with hentai elements?

Yes, but where do you put the hentai in?

>I was thinking where you could chose to rape the enemy or kill them after you beat them. That way, you could do what you wanted. Then have a town or something where you can just be a whore or something and fuck all the villagers you can by seducing them.
modded Skyrim is the best hentai game

Now this manga is constant over use of sexualization, it works for some but not for me any more because it's just and excuse to write a manga will terrible premise and an excuse to draw near porn to keep sales up. I mean more power to the manga writer to do so but there is a point in life that says "ok you can stop now it's getting sad."

That's the thing, how do you balance them?

I wouldn't know.

>MFW no father.

>Look at all the weebshit on Steam front page. Shit like Senran Kagura sells purely on that.
>Owners: 42,128 ± 5,259

You really think those sales figures on a platform with over 125 million users is impressive? I'm sure those people also buy all the other weeb shit and rate it high too. As I said, it's an industry supported by whales.

>Porn DOES constitute a huge traction of the internet traffic, there was this report once by pornhub but I can't seem to remember where I saw it.

No, this is trick they use for the advertisers. Porn sites do receive a lot of visitors by the numbers alone but the average visit to a porn site only lasts for around 10 minutes and the majority of people only visit a porn site a couple of times a month, at the most. It's just not a high consumption industry and it's not something you want to get into if you actually want to make money selling something to people. As for internet traffic the vast, vast, vast majority of internet traffic is non-porn related video content, e.g. youtube, netflix, etc. Porn-related video content is dwarfed by non-porn related video content.

Prison School?

This has to be a joke. Please tell me this is just some weird attempt to bait by making yourself look pathetic, and you're not actually so sad that your response is to post a photo of yourself and go "It was mutual but actually she got bored of me and dumped me".

You're a 30+ year old man who's still dating sluts at college. At least the whole "dating a slut" would be excusable if you were young and stupid, but you're just stupid.

And that's not even mentioning that when someone pointed out you don't kill monsters, your response was "Yeah but I'm better at maths than some asians I know, so that's pretty much like killing a 50 foot tall dragon".

How are you still so insecure that you have to justify yourself to random people on Cred Forums anyway? I'd tell you to grow up, but that evidently didn't work for you.

In the game.

Doesn't mean every one who talks like that is like that, sure you met some people, but do you really think that is all they are?

Well how do you balance it out? Dumby.

Not sure but I'd also like to know...

WHAT IS A MAN?

>dumby
You're the one asking stupid question, guy.

(You)
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

It's almost like Bayonetta isn't a real person, and the only aspects of her that actually exist is what the writers put in the game or something.

it's funny because no one at your school knows you exist and you're going to die alone

Yeah, it abuses the sexual tension that the characters are literally rubbing eachother's faces into their privates.
I mean holy shit, if I want to be pandered to I will watch porn.

No father.

Also, I'm white so it's my privilege.

>30+ year old man

30+ year old boy; there fixed it for you.

You should have understood that my wording was off, homosapien.

She's not a real person, that doesn't mean she doesn't have character.

It's your wording, not my job to translate it.

So basically you wanted even more sex jokes?
Because that's what happens when characters are self aware
Besides I remember that helicopter scene where Luka is staring at her cleavage instead of piloting the thing so people definitely notice hes sexiness in-game

>30+ year old boy; there fixed it for you.

This honestly just made me sad. Please re-evaluate your life user, before it's too late.

>excessive sexual content
>sexual content
>excessive
>content of sexual nature capable of being too much

Fucking homos

Yes, that is who they are once you get to know them.

There are people who make sexual comments all the time with glimmers of intelligence and there are people who make
similar comments yet are wholly crude and are complete dumbasses. The former reveal themselves to be more complex individuals once you get to know them (they may even turn out to be shy); the latter it doesn't matter how hard you hang around them and get to know them you realize there is nothing base qualities.

And I was a bit sad that Bayonetta leaned towards the latter.

do...do you think you look good in that photo?

this is so sad

Correction: No students at my school know me.

Except for the sluts I hunt and the faculty who write me letters of recommendation every semester.

And of course I'm going to die alone; being gunned down by federal agents, of course.

Guys, your attempts to rage me are cute but I heard better bait from the faggots in the Navy.

Git gud.

Of course she isn't a real fucking person. But there is no reason why characters can't behave like real people. I mean that's all we fucking do here in MGS or Witcher threads is moan about how this shit or that shit isn't realistic.

I want to believe this image is a meme
What car do you drive?

Nope, 7.5 in the looks department tops.

It's my basedednesses that gets the sluts and my wit that conquers kids like you.

What is best in life?

I won't tell you but I can safely say that I'm living it.

Because I'm a permavirgin and sex triggers me fuck you.

Ehh
I've seen worse, sex and lewd as literal plot points for example

1997 Acura CL 3.0

But it does. Sure, if it was a person in real life who talked really sexually all the time, to the point that was all they said, then you couldn't make a comment on if that is their entire personality, because there's heaps more you don't see.

A character doesn't have this excuse. They don't exist outside what we see.

You're right, and characters should behave like real people. That's the issue that's being raised with Bayonetta, that she doesn't feel like a real person, or really even a character, just a way for the writers to put innuendo in the script.

Oh fuck, you are the same guy

>I-i'm not mad! I'm laughing at you!

You posted a photo of yourself and have constantly been defending yourself and justifying why you totally aren't pathetic to people. You're pretty obviously mad.

>excessive sexual content

That's what makes a game a good game.

nah dude no one knows or cares about you, enjoy being so isolated you resort to social interaction with Cred Forums autists

Mind you I feel that is only the negative from your perspective as well and some other people. In the end some find it enduring or even powerful and she may not represent your ideal character in your sense of the word, she is more to others. Saying the shit she says is freeing and even loosens people up, really it can be similar to an MC who is childish and acts like an asshole.

>he actually believes this

it's like trying to ridicule a clown.

I mean, he's not hideous, but you're right that this is pretty sad. It's like mocking Chris chan or something, no matter what you say, their response is going to do a better job at making fun of them.

uh no that's pretty horrific, get your eyes checked

Yes, I agree, all these recent anime have been mostly harems pushing the boundaries by adding more use of sexual actions. I mean you can only awaken her power if you get her to orgasm. I mean that's just fucking dumb from my perspective, bease to me it's just an excuse to show near porn to keep viewership up.

Awe, thanks!

You should see me when I get all dolled up; you can see my freckles and blue eyes.

And isn't that what being based is?

Not giving a fuck what people say or think about you?

Before based was even a thing/work/maymay it was 'Punk'.

Come on guys, you know the maymay theory but you need to APPLY it.

Nah, he's not exceptional looking, but by average peoples standards he's not ugly.

You probably just spend too much time looking at edited photos of attractive people online.

Either way though, mock him for the cringey shit, there's nothing stand out about how he looks either way, he's just average.

hahaha yikes
it's like an aging advertising executive desperately trying to fit in with people half his age

lol what kind of trash fires do you hang out with

And THAT is my greatest weapon.

I'm just your typical 'Boy next door'; they never suspect me of anything or see me coming.

I can change my 'look' by wearing different clothes and adopting different persona quite easily and people buy it because they're fucking stupid and/or I've gotten good at it.

Trolling IRL is even better than doing it online.

Sex is overrated unless it's with someone you love. CHECK IT!

You mean like Masou Gakuen?
Yeah, but in this case sex is just the main motivation for the MC

Not doesn't because each character has to viewed by many different aspects when being created, not just by the designer but by the actor and director. Also the whole back story is a thing. You want an example of a one dimensional character look at the first pacman. He only got more character when he got sequels.
Also he acting the way she does has layers in itself, for one she could be doing it to throw off enemies. Like spiderman does when he makes fun of his enemies.
Also, no these characters should not have to be real. You have no right to stifle people's creativity when you think otherwise.

>Advertising

You watch too much Mad Men, senpai.

Marketing is all where it's at; that's why it's considered the "Blackhole" of business, you can spend millions upon millions of dollars easily trying to market your shit product/service.

I gotta say you guys are waaaaaay more fun the usual crowd.

heh, I remember this pasta

>still trying this hard

Kind of sad. It's why I don't care for it too much. Harems are really the actual power fantasy that can think of.

You do know no-one's used the word "based" seriously for years, right? Like the other guy said, you're just trying way too hard to fit in, and it's really cringeworthy.

Stop trying to pretend you're still 16, because you're not anymore.

I'm curious, can you post a photo of what you think's average?

Winter is coming.

there is no sex in bayonetta, just over the top fighting.

>that facial hair

I just don't see how anyone can honestly look themselves in the mirror and not realize what a faggot they look like. Ahh well, thanks for the laugh man.

>Not doesn't because each character has to viewed by many different aspects when being created, not just by the designer but by the actor and director.

Not really, you just go
>Play these parts in a sexual way

And they do it. There's not that much to consider for a one dimensional character.

>You want an example of a one dimensional character look at the first pacman. He only got more character when he got sequels.

Pac man wasn't a one dimensional character, pac man just wasn't a character. He had no personality or anything, no lines.

>Also he acting the way she does has layers in itself, for one she could be doing it to throw off enemies.

But there's no evidence for this, because half of the things she fights wouldn't care. More than half actually, by far.

Your head canon doesn't count for anything.

>You have no right to stifle people's creativity when you think otherwise.

No-one's stifling anything, they have the right to make whatever, and I have the right to criticise it.

the best games ever include sex scenes, because sex is a part of life and nothing to be ashamed of

Well yeah
The ultimate power fantasy is being the strongest guy in the universe that gets all the hot girls
I don't think it's sad, sure it gets played for laughs in DxD but overall it's a very reasonable final objective

>Mods will delete some animemanga boob nipple touching someone's eye
>But not this ugly fuck's photo or this thread

you're half right

The Saboteur was pretty good.

Had nice music and sexuality seeing as how the character hid out of the back of a "Gentlemen's Club"

Huh, they actually deleted him, that's a positive.

That was one of the cringier things I've seen in a while.

>Play these parts in a sexual way

>And they do it. There's not that much to consider for a one dimensional character.

You aren't an actor nor a director, so I can say with certainty that you have no idea what you are talking about. Before you ask yes I am an actor, I have preformed and yes it's more than just saying words especially when you are being convincing that you are a character and not some ass hat reading a script.
When a director tells you certain character is "sexy but in a real way" there is more to it than just sound sexy.

Yes pacman was a character that's the whole point of the one dimensional character thing, having no personality and just being there and does one thing.

>But there's no evidence for this, because half of the things she fights wouldn't care. More than half actually, by far.

>Your head canon doesn't count for anything.

Her being the last of her witch kind means nothing now? People deal with shit like this adifferently all the time, also being slutty against angels who, would represent the church, also doesn't make sense to you? I mean she does it to get under their skin, especially since the church has been known to disapprove of slutty behavior. Nothing you said is evidence of a 1 dimensional character, when Bayo has a background story.

Your citicism, fair enough, understand that people will also critisize your critism.

I WANT TO SHOW MY PENIS TO JUNKO SO FUCKING BAD

I DONT CARE IF SHE LAUGHS OR WHAT I JUST WANT HER TO SEE IT

>i'm a irl witcher!
>i beated some asian in math!

>Before you ask yes I am an actor, I have preformed and yes it's more than just saying words

Sure, normal acting is, but voice acting is literally just saying the words in the way the writers want you to.

>Yes pacman was a character that's the whole point of the one dimensional character thing, having no personality and just being there and does one thing.

But that's not what it means. A one dimensional character is shallow, there's just one aspect to their personality. Pacman has no personality. He's not a character anymore than a gun in a shooter is a character.

>Her being the last of her witch kind means nothing now?

No, it doesn't, because it's irrelevant to what we're saying. The backstory of a character isn't what makes them one dimensional or not. You can write the best back story ever, but if the character when you actually see them is just shallow and not really interesting, they're still one dimensional.

>I mean she does it to get under their skin, especially since the church has been known to disapprove of slutty behavior.

Can you please show me where in game she says this?

>Your citicism, fair enough, understand that people will also critisize your critism.

Of course, you don't have to agree with me, the world would be a boring place if everyone just agreed on everything.

>Why is sexual content considered a sign of a bad game
Because every non-porn game that over-uses sexual content is always using it to mask shitty gameplay
>Senran Kagura
>Shitty, bland, repetitive gameplay
>Sells because of all of the over-sexualization of characters
>Literally anything by Compile Heart
>Same deal

Don't get me wrong, I don't mine some sexual content but there should at least be a good game behind it.

Ah, the good old despair overload tactic
That might work

Is that guy the SHSL luck of the show or something? Also one slash to the torso taking a man out really breaks immersion.

Normal porn is not the same as anime waifus moaning in a hih pitch. 3d porn is even more retarded. There are some semisuccesful western games

"excessive" has an inherently negative connotation, so we can probably simplify this to the general question of "Can a video game with a flaw be a good game?" to which I would answer "If the rest of the game makes up for it."

Kek, I think it's just how he seemed to be completely unaware of how he came across, and thought he was the coolest shit ever that got to me.

Or the
>She's a dumb slut cunt
>Actually she's cool we're on good terms still and it was mutual
>Actually she just flat out dumped me

>first Nagito was Revolver Ocelot with Junko's hand
>now he's Venom Snake with the mechanical hand
WHAT A MESS WE MADE
WHEN IT ALL WENT WRONG

Man I already miss her porn

she has instagram accounts, both are lewd

no wonder why she left him

>i bang sluts all the time, baby!

I'm the guy who initially said Bayo was one dimensional. I kinda gave up on the conversation because few people were getting it. But I'm pretty much on the same level as you and you've directed the conversation about the same way I would have done it.

I agree, the backstory has nothing to do with her character and are primarily exposition. Most of the flashbacks she has are her dealing with the circumstances of the moment and being the last witch defines her occupation more than her personality.

I don't know, maybe people are taking the "one dimensional" criticism too literally. She IS an asshole to Enzo, I guess that counts in the most minor of ways. She is briefly an asshole to Cereza and becomes motherly briefly. Still, there's very little depth there as you would have to be the worst person to continue being a dick to the kid. And my desire for her to have had some self-awareness, added wit, or control over her sexual innuendo would open up huge swaths of implied intelligence that could show up in bits of punctuation throughout the plot.

Granted, the game was surprising enough in visuals, but very quickly I became bored of anything she said because it felt typical; predictable; and that's why I don't think she's an interesting character from a personality standpoint.

I have to go, good night.

Yes, and I want it in every game. My lust for anime titties is insatiable.

Who is the girl in OP?

>Sure, normal acting is, but voice acting is literally just saying the words in the way the writers want you to.

Again it's not, you aren't an actor so you still don't understand. There is a difference in acting and reading a scritical out loud.
>But that's not what it means. A one dimensional character is shallow, there's just one aspect to their personality. Pacman has no personality. He's not a character anymore than a gun in a shooter is a character.

Yes it is actually we are arguing the same thing it just means lacks depth. Pacman is that definition since he lacks depth in his existence. The only thing he has is a name and eats ghosts. That's lack of depth.
And since pacman has a name and has enemies to avoid. A gun is only the tool to the character, you can't kill a gun, but you can kill pacman.
>No, it doesn't, because it's irrelevant to what we're saying. The backstory of a character isn't what makes them one dimensional or not. You can write the best back story ever, but if the character when you actually see them is just shallow and not really interesting, they're still one dimensional.
Yes it does, the back story is where you get depth, it's where you learn more about the character, that's how you fiND out about Macbeth old loyalty to the king, that's how you find out about hamlets reasoning t distrust his uncle. Back story is what creates a character. That is part of the struggle that makes the character who she is now. You don't have to be an actor to understand this. It's what provides an understanding of how a character acts the way she does in the now. That's the whole point of a back story. It also cements them into the world around them and gives them more than just being there.

Then there is her sluttyNess towaRd the angels. You don't have to be a genius to notice that the angels are synonymous to the church pure way of thinking. Her sluttyness isa form of rebellion. It's what some girls do against their own family.

Script*
Fucking auto correct

>excessive
What did you mean by this?

Looks to be some random chick from an anime called Konosuba.

>Again it's not, you aren't an actor so you still don't understand

That's a terrible argument, because not only do you not have to be something to know about it, but there's really no evidence that you're what you're claiming you are.

>Pacman is that definition since he lacks depth in his existence. The only thing he has is a name and eats ghosts.

Yes, and he is not a character. He is a sprite with no personality, nothing, he's just a thing you move. He's no more a character than the paddles in Pong.

>A gun is only the tool to the character, you can't kill a gun, but you can kill pacman.

So what, a gun with durability is a character?

>Yes it does, the back story is where you get depth, it's where you learn more about the character, that's how you fiND out about Macbeth old loyalty to the king, that's how you find out about hamlets reasoning t distrust his uncle

But both of those aren't what makes them interesting characters. The way that's presented in the respective plays is, their dialogue and interactions with others.

Backstory is cool, but as said, it's just exposition, which doesn't make a character interesting, it makes their backstory interesting.

Look at /tg/ related games for example. You can write a great backstory for a character, but if your interaction with the world is "I make bad joke and kill thing", you're a shit character.

Of course, an interesting back story is important to a good character, but it's not enough to make a character good on its own.

>Then there is her sluttyNess towaRd the angels. You don't have to be a genius to notice that the angels are synonymous to the church pure way of thinking. Her sluttyness isa form of rebellion. It's what some girls do against their own family.

Until you provide a source for this in game, it's just stupid head canon you've made up to stop her just being a shallow innuendo machine.

Disappointing. I was hoping for some porn. The way her tits were hanging and teasing me, slightly hiding her nipples behind that top got me rock hard instantly.

>sex is like a really specific thing that's supposed to be private
kek

>the spread of lolicon mangas in Japan significantly lowered child molestation rates in the country becoming the main reason why they didn't get banned
>the west seriously thinks fantasizing about rape is the same as raping someone IRL and is a sin before God and will never legalize an absolutely harmless escape for potential fanatic rapists.

progression before everything am I right?

Konosuba wasn't bad. Pretty goddamn funny, looking forward to season 2

Catherine comes to mind, even though Its sexual content isn't excessive

>Why do people think Americans hate nudity and sex scenes?
Because its fucking true if you take one step outside and look at how the rest of the states see nudity. Some places are cool about it sure but you still have other parts on the US that have a strong opinion on it.

Let me give you a little sample on something that happened just last year. Nickelodeon aired a cartoon called Augie and the Cockroaches. Its a French cartoon sort of like Tom and Jerry but with cats and roaches, simple enough. One episode however got pass networks and had a topless badly drawn woman in the background, pic related is it. As soon as that episode aired Nickelodeon got a whirlwind of angry calls from that one badly drawn background image. It was so bad they pretty much took the show off air for good. Shit like this still happens today in the US, I mean you have to be really sheltered to think Americans don't hate nudity. Now I'm not saying ALL Americans hate nudity but the ones that do clearly control this country.

>That's a terrible argument, because not only do you not have to be something to know about it, but there's really no evidence that you're what you're claiming you are.
In your situation you do since you over simplify everything. There is a difference from reading out loud like saying spot jumped out the window to acting spot actually jumped out the window, if it were the case that it's just saying words thereally would be no need for an actors guild and everyone would be doing it and getting awards for it. There is a big difference

If pacman isn't a character he would have a name or eat the dots or avoid ghosts. He's a one dimentional character. Pong doesn't die when on loses, pong doesn't avoid npc enemies homing in on its position. Bayo is none of the two, she has reason for being there has reason for being alive and has more reason to being alive aside than getting to point b from point a.
>So what, a gun with durability is a character?
When he has a name and reason to live yeah. That's what makes a character, it's not a deep one but it is one.
>But both of those aren't what makes them interesting characters. The way that's presented in the respective plays is, their dialogue and interactions with others.

Backstory is cool, but as # said, it's just exposition, which doesn't make a character interesting, it makes their backstory interesting.

Look at /tg/ related games for example. You can write a great backstory for a character, but if your interaction with the world is "I make bad joke and kill thing", you're a shit character.

Of course, an interesting back story is important to a good character, but it's not enough to make a character good on its own.

This is just your opinion along with the other dude on what makes some one interesting, but still what you described IS WHAT MAKES A CHARACTER, back story is the growth of the character has to the present. Then conines on ward.

Gosh i don't know

Cont.
>Until you provide a source for this in game, it's just stupid head canon you've made up to stop her just being a shallow innuendo machine.

Play the fucking game then! Jesus Christ it doesn't take much to connect the dots.
Everything from her being a angel hunter to acting permiscuous, is a form of a rebellious nature against the church, have you been living under a rock?

You and that other gentleman have a shallow grasp on what makes a character when there is so many more than one way to present them. Read some plays, not just shakespear even.

>You aren't an actor so you still don't understand.
I'm going to take you to task for this.

Yes, there is a difference between acting and just reading a script. But that's not what we're talking about, we're talking about the content of the writing. You need both good writing AND good acting to make an accomplished product. The voice actor can be brilliant but if the writing makes her one-dimensional, she's going to come off as one-dimensional. Likewise the writing can be brilliant but if the acting is poor; surely you as an actor must know that all the talent in the world cannot make up for a terrible script.

It's like a person who says, "As a mother with a child with autism who had my child vaccinated, I can say that vaccines cause cancer."

You being an actor does not necessarily make you an authority on such matters of good writing or good acting as you have no credentials to present here. Like the mother with the autistic child, she has no scientific experience to back up her statement, she is making a fallacy claiming her experience makes her an authority on a matter when in this case it does not.

As you make claims on Catholicism you could say, "As a Catholic, this *Catholic claim* is true," because that factual statement and your status are directly related.

And so, because you're some random on the Internet and I'm another random on the Internet, the only thing we can do is present facts, and you are offering Pacman as a character when he exhibits no character whatsoever. He has a job, and that's eating ghosts and pellets. That doesn't tell me if he's a hard worker, a gentle person, a family man, a douchebag, valiant, or brave.

>Her sluttyness isa form of rebellion
This is interpretive when we are addressing the lack of obvious and objective expressions of her character.

>It's like a person who says, "As a mother with a child with autism who had my child vaccinated, I can say that vaccines cause cancer."
Correction:
"As a mother with a child with autism who had my child vaccinated, I can say that vaccines cause AUTISM."

Yes, but it rarely happens. I can't even think of one on the top of my head. I guess sone fighting games, but most gajes have horrible game breaking bugs despite being fairly simple to code and the hard part is balance and animation/design.

>if it were the case that it's just saying words thereally would be no need for an actors guild and everyone would be doing it and getting awards for it.

Okay? I never said you just say them deadpan or there's nothing to it, I said that voice acting is just reading words, you just need to be able to deliver them convincingly in different tones to be good at it. But seriously, your argument was "As an actor, I know this character is deep because I say so".

>Pong doesn't die when on loses, pong doesn't avoid npc enemies homing in on its position

But you do. Your paddle loses the game. And what, a character is defined by whether or not it is chased by something now?

You're pushing it. Having a name and doing something doesn't make you a character, because a gun does that, a paddle in Pong does that, a car in a racing game does that.

>Bayo is none of the two, she has reason for being there has reason for being alive and has more reason to being alive aside than getting to point b from point a.

You do realise that one dimensional doesn't mean "literally only has one characteristic", right? It means you're shallow, and only have very few defining major characteristics. She's a witch who acts slutty all the time. That's her character.

>When he has a name and reason to live yeah. That's what makes a character, it's not a deep one but it is one.

So then pacman isn't a character, because no reason is given why he wants to live.

>but still what you described IS WHAT MAKES A CHARACTER, back story is the growth of the character has to the present

But that's not what makes a character good. Do you think Hamlet would be respected as a good character if he almost exclusively spoke in innuendo? Or Macbeth?

You know what lore created by you "Connecting the dots" is called? Headcanon.

You can't just create attributes and say "Oh yeah the character could be assumed to have these" and then treat it like it impacts the actual character.

>excessive

No?
If it were "reasonable" or "appropriate" or "the maximum amount," yes, but not if it's "excessive."

You're using a fucking kid's show as an example of people not liking sex in media. There's a difference between people watching HBO and seeing tits and people watching fucking Nickelodeon with their kids and seeing tits. That difference is the reason that GRR Martin rolls in cash while Nickelodeon takes their shit off the air. Name me a show on HBO that got taken down because it had some tits or people fucking in it and too many people complained. Go ahead. I'll wait.

Tastefulness is the most important thing.

The lack of downblouse in this thread is disappointing.

>Yes, there is a difference between acting and just reading a script.
Yes it was you were the one who brought it up

Also as an actor you have to interpret what is written to convey emotion to the character. Also by getting an actor you give the character more depth especially when this character has an accent and is from a specific place that gives location and depth into her character. It's not saying I'm a mother with autistic child because you as the actor are preforming on behalf your self and the character that is coming from you not the reaction of what injections have on your child. It's more like in the similar context of "I do road construction and it's not just sitting on my ass and cat calling.

Being actor gives me a better understand ing of what a character is aND it does give me authority on know what I do in my job than just read lines.
Now you begin to move away from the point all the way back go pacman.
Pacman is just a one dimensional character, that's all he is, he's one because of all those reason you just pointed out. The dots the ghost, avoiding them until he get a power one. Giving him personality is what makes him 3 dimensional, it can be viewed as good or terrible but it's still more charactization that makes him more fleshed out.

Yes I can say it is interprative, but your entire argument has been thus, what you consider to be a good character, what you consider to be character growth. What I have given you is growth. Wether ir was past or present its growth it's fleshed out and it's exposition on how a character came to be in the present. To ignore all that and see her sluttyness shows that's what you only see. She may have a gimmick but having that gimmick is a character trait with reason. She's like Dante but instead of being badass trickey, she's trickey slutty bad ass.

This.
Since they know the game is bad from the core itself. They try to get bucks from virgins who worry more about """""""""vagina bones"""""""" (what kind of autist came up with that?) than if the game is actually interesting itself.

>Pacman is just a one dimensional character, that's all he is, he's one because of all those reason you just pointed out.
HE IS A ZERO DIMENSIONAL CHARACTER

No explicit motivation, no dialog; can't tell if he's happy, sad, or if even sentient. Pacman is no different than a cow who does nothing but runs around and eats.

Are you telling me livestock, albiet livestock named Mr. Hoof and Farts, has enough character to be called one-dimensional?

I'm just going to say this, I've met cows with more personality and character than Pacman.

>Rance
>Good

So what, your point is that every character with an actor is a deep character because it's a real person acting it?

>Pacman is just a one dimensional character, that's all he is, he's one because of all those reason you just pointed out. The dots the ghost, avoiding them until he get a power one

So you agree that the pong paddle is a character then? It has a name "Pong paddle", and hits the ball in a game, the same as pacman has a name and avoids the ghosts.

>She may have a gimmick but having that gimmick is a character trait with reason.

For the last time, our issue is that her entire characterisation in the games is that gimmick. She doesn't have a gimmick, she is a gimmick. Her having some backstory doesn't mean she's not a shallow character, because there are literally thousands of characters with a backstory. Every character has some backstory.

>She's like Dante but instead of being badass trickey, she's trickey slutty bad ass.

Except Dante has heaps of other aspects to his character, including his nature as not being entirely human, his interactions with his brother, his interactions with Nero.

His personality is cocky, but that's not all there is to him, as he shows heaps of other aspects in canon materials. Bayonetta shows almost nothing but sluttiness.

Seriously, if all you have to say in defence is "Well at least she's deeper than pacman", than thanks for proving our point.

>You're using a fucking kid's show
Yeah, a kids show from France. See the difference? A simple kids show from another country can't be seen as a kids show for Americans. You don't see nothing wrong with this? There's nothing wrong with showing tits especially poorly drawn in a kids show and most countries including first worlder do this. So why is it wrong for Americans?

>scrolling down front page
>"Can a video game with excessive sexual content be a good game?"
>pacman post
>pacman post
>pacman post
>rance
>pacman post

Not even going to ask.

Never change, Cred Forums

If a game is excessively violent, it is usually part of the actual gameplay. Whenever sex is added to a game that isn't entirely sex-focused, it usually ends up being awkwardly implemented. It doesn't help that graphics aren't up to a standard where animated sex looks realistic yet.

That's not to say that it's impossible for a game with sexual content to be good. Sengoku Rance is an example where the underlying gameplay is still good despite being a sex game. Although the most common issue with eroges is that they often require too much grinding.

> I said that voice acting is just reading words
By saying that you simplify the action and make it lose its actual meaning.
>You're pushing it. Having a name and doing something doesn't make you a character, because a gun does that, a paddle in Pong does that, a car in a racing game does that.
Pong is a competition against other players or computer, no separate npc tring to block you from the goal. Pacman is a protagonist, the ghost antagonists, the goal eat all the dots, and not be stopped by the ghosts. Not much to it but it's there.

Bayo is the last witch of her kind who acts slutty and rebels against angels, she has a goal, a reason to fight, a reason to live. You only look at her that way because that's what you want to see.

Pacman isn't a character than why dif they create miss pacman? She just a bow but still now there are two pacmans. Their reason to live is to not die since there is an npc tring to kill them.

>But that's not what makes a character good. Do you think Hamlet would be respected as a good character if he almost exclusively spoke in innuendo? Or Macbeth?

Umm that's what they do, get thee to a nunnery means get out of my face you whore, in lamest tearms. Everything shakespear wrote was innuendo that was his thing! He used imagery and innuendos to decribe the scene or to explain how a character feels, that was his thing! He even made up words!

The most common issue with eroges is that they're eroges you fucking weeb

>For the last time, our issue is that her entire characterisation in the games is that gimmick. She doesn't have a gimmick, she is a gimmick. Her having some backstory doesn't mean she's not a shallow character, because there are literally thousands of characters with a backstory. Every character has some backstory.
Shitty back story or good that still character traits you are ignoring for the sake of the argument.
>Except Dante has heaps of other aspects to his character, including his nature as not being entirely human, his interactions with his brother, his interactions with Nero.

His personality is cocky, but that's not all there is to him, as he shows heaps of other aspects in canon materials. Bayonetta shows almost nothing but sluttiness.

Last of her witch kind doesn't count but being a half demon does? Both have inter actions with another type of character that has a relaton to their past. Holy shit you are point out the back story.
What you described was Bayo only with a fucking dick.

I have to excersize,guys so I won't see your rebutle any time soon.

Because the dev couldnt make anything actually good and is just trying to appeal to muh dick

I want to believe

>By saying that you simplify the action and make it lose its actual meaning.

Okay? I don't really care that much if we're being completely honest.

>Pong is a competition against other players or computer, no separate npc tring to block you from the goal

LIterally every game is a competition against other players or the computer. And you forget, there's also "Pong Paddle #2" trying to stop you winning.

>Bayo is the last witch of her kind who acts slutty and rebels against angels, she has a goal, a reason to fight, a reason to live.

Yeah, because "Witch who acts slutty and doesn't want to die" is a really deep character. The point was that she's shallow because they put far too much focus on making her make sexual quips instead of interesting characterisation.

>Pacman isn't a character than why dif they create miss pacman? She just a bow but still now there are two pacmans.

So you agree that the pong paddles are characters?

>Umm that's what they do, get thee to a nunnery means get out of my face you whore, in lamest tearms. Everything shakespear wrote was innuendo that was his thing! He used imagery and innuendos to decribe the scene or to explain how a character feels, that was his thing! He even made up words!

Have you ever read shakespeare? Or know what innuendo means? "Go away" in different terms isn't innuendo.

And him having a couple references to sex here or there doesn't mean that his characters speak mostly in innuendo, you just make yourself look dumb by trying to make that point.

You're also ignoring the context, in which innuendo clearly refers to sexual innuendo.

>Shitty back story or good that still character traits you are ignoring for the sake of the argument.

But that's not true. Back story is backstory. It can make a good character great, but it can't make a good character. It can be completely missing and a character can still be great, but great characterisation and writing can't be missing in a good one.

>It doesn't help that graphics aren't up to a standard where animated sex looks realistic yet.
Wrong. What doesn't help is that nobody wants to spend money to make animated sex look realistic. Namely, nobody wants to motion capture sex.

It's just like how we can have smart phone cameras that can capture clear videos but we can't equip cops with camera that capture clear videos or have security cameras on par with olympic event cameras.

We can do it; we just don't want to spend the money because the return is not worth the investment.

>Last of her witch kind doesn't count but being a half demon does

I worded that badly. I was talking about what's explicitly in the games and other canon materials. Not his backstory. Him being part demon impacts his character in visible ways throughout the story, and he struggles with it.

>Both have inter actions with another type of character that has a relaton to their past

>they talk to other people sometimes so therefore they are deep

Wow you sure got me I agree, the pong paddles truly are the deepest characters, I mean, the interact with each other and everything!

>What you described was Bayo only with a fucking dick.

Kek, you could have just said you haven't played the series user, let alone seen any of the other material.

Source?

OP's statement is ridiculous because it's tautological.

IF the amount of sex in the game doesn't hurt the quality, then it's not excessive by definition.

I contend though, that there is no such thing as excessive amounts of sex. Or violence for that matter.

Something like Hatred for example wouldn't necessarily be a better game with less violence. It would be shitty, unremarkable and generic.

And shit like Hentai Games tend to be crap because the gameplay gets much less development time and attention than the porn part. But there's nothing inherrent about that.

Just Google it.

The study that the articles cite was conducted on ADVERTISEMENTS. Says fuck-all about media: movies, books, TV, etc.

Basically the claim and study is completely irrelevant to video games.

The argument is what makes a 1 dimensional character not what makes a good character which is on your opinion alone. You've been miss using 1 dimensional character critique incorrectly and is backstory is part of the character not all of it but is part of it if you like it or not. Pong is a game of compition, where you and cpu or player beat eachother scores. Pacman the cpu doesn't gain anything but stops you from going further.
The therm innuendo does not mean sexual innuendo you moron, or they wouldn't need to put the word sexual in front of it to describe the innuendos meaning, sweet jesus go to school or something. Innuendo- an allusive or oblique remark or hint, typically a suggestive or disparaging one.
Nothing about sex.
You guys are the ones that brought up pong paddles, I didn't mention them you guys did. Not only have you failed to make a case you keep trying to derail the argument.
All you have proven is that you have a shallow understanding in literature and writing, you decide what you think is good and misuse the term 1 dimensional to describe what you don't like.

Witcher 3 had 16 hours of motion captured sex scenes

>The argument is what makes a 1 dimensional character not what makes a good character which is on your opinion alone

But user, we're talking about if she's one dimensional (read, shallow), not if she's good.

>Pong is a game of compition, where you and cpu or player beat eachother scores. Pacman the cpu doesn't gain anything but stops you from going further.

You realise Pacman is a game of competition where you try to beat scores too, right?

>The therm innuendo does not mean sexual innuendo you moron,

You could have just said you have no idea what context means or why it's important. If there's a conversation about what the best sort of guitar is, and everyone's posting electric guitars, do you start spamming the thread by going "wow you guys are so fucking stupid you don't even know there's other sorts of guitars, obviously this mandolin is best"? No, because it's clear what the people are talking about.

>Innuendo- an allusive or oblique remark or hint, typically a suggestive or disparaging one.

Kek
>tells me to go to school
>Takes the first definition from a google search and acts smart for posting it.

Nice.

>You guys are the ones that brought up pong paddles, I didn't mention them you guys did.

Because they have as much character as pacman, that's why. They have names, and they have purposes. That is why you said pacman was a character.

Now, answer the question. From your own definition, do you or don't you agree that the pong paddles are characters?

>All you have proven is that you have a shallow understanding in literature and writing, you decide what you think is good and misuse the term 1 dimensional to describe what you don't like.

>You're wrong because you're dumb, and I would know this because I read shakespeare and was in a couple plays in high school like everyone else

Wow what a great argument you have there, really got my neurons firing.

Sounds like a trap

If you mean the google jobs, then don't do it.

It offers shit pay, you have to spend all day looking at sick disgusting stuff (gore / scat / sexual exploitation and abuse / death), they offer no benefits and the contract is one year only (because they pretty much know that after one year you'll be an empty husk of a human being that requires constant psychological help and they don't want to pay for that).

It's probably just a job finding illegal material on peoples computers, nothing fancy really, he'd almost definitely just be finding messages and shit mostly, or reviewing reported websites to see if they contain illegal materials.

Even the sites reporting the show getting taken down say it's only some parents complaining, give examples of other people saying it doesn't matter, and have comments sections full of people saying it's ridiculous. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that it's just Nickelodeon overreacting. It's all irrelevant though. You can't compare what two different cultures think is appropriate for a kid's show and use it as an example of what adults like in their media in general, which is what the initial posts were all about. Not wanting your kid to see tits in his TV shows doesn't mean you hate seeing tits on TV anymore than not wanting your kid to see violence in his TV shows means that you hate seeing violence on TV.

Rance is actually amazing. It's like Civilization, but in single player form and with a crazy amount of detail put into it.

Every time I play it, my mind is blown at how much content and story is packed into it. There's a ton of routes which are all different, the gameplay is fairly deep and challenging, AND it's a fucking eroge. To be honest the h-scenes were nothing amazing but they were pretty funny

>I haven't played the Pac Man World Trilogy

Bayonetta is a 2-d character:
>A two-dimensional character is the same as one-dimensional character except for the fact that they show one emotion or character trait. They are also known as "cardboard" characters, your cutouts, because they lack dimension. They show a little bit of character through their words, actions, or emotions, but everything they reveal is of a one-track nature that's somewhat undeveloped and often lacking in background, explanation, or depth.

>Unlike the one-dimensional character, they must react through speech or gesture to reveal an emotional trait. Their reactions and integrations in the story are often brief, but not always. Though a main character may be present the majority of the story, if he/she is lacking in depth, complexity, or history, that character becomes two-dimensional. One of the biggest dangers to believability or engagement of readers in a story is a lack of depth to main, or even secondary characters.

And though she fits much of the criteria of a 3-d character:
>A three-dimensional character however, plays an important role in the story and constitutes all major characters, including villains. They have complex emotions and sometimes conflicting motives, troubled pasts and deep worries. They are alive with passion and ambition and desire, never apathetic (and if they are, they are overly apathetic).

>Every feature and aspect about them is exaggerated and heightened, and the reader must absolutely understand who they are, and have a profound feeling that they existed long before the story began. Any character that spends longer than several pages in your book should be three-dimensional, or the reader can quickly lose interest.

She does not have complex emotions and while the game keeps your interest very well, it hardly does a good job of keeping your interest in the Bayonetta character.

We're all wrong. She is a "cardboard" character and firmly 2-d. That's why she sucks. But it's still a good game.

I notice what is important no where did I say she's a good character I said she's not 1 dimensional and all you can do is reply with kek, and lol nice, I can tell you have nothing to offer.
You also realize that DMC is a game that you try to beat scores to right? Crazy! AWESOME!
Remember those? Pacman is made to get all the dots and evade or eat ghosts.
It seems you have no understanding what context means if you can't figure out what what a background story means to character development.
Your guys brought up she is good, I never said it.
Now he brings in guitars while not knowing what innuendo means.
Go back to school kid you aren't a scholar nor are you mah nigga.

>I notice what is important no where did I say she's a good character I said she's not 1 dimensional and all you can do is reply with kek, and lol nice, I can tell you have nothing to offer.

Not once did I respond with just "kek" or "Nice". The one point I had that included both of them also included mocking you for acting smart while just copying the first definition you could find.

>You also realize that DMC is a game that you try to beat scores to right? Crazy! AWESOME!

Sure, there is a score mechanism, but there is also a story in all the games. It is not a score based game, just includes a rating system.

>It seems you have no understanding what context means if you can't figure out what what a background story means to character development.

But I've already stated that it's important, but doesn't make a character good. It can make a good character great if it links in well to the story, but a bad one with a great backstory is just wasted potential.

>Now he brings in guitars while not knowing what innuendo means.

Are you retarded? I brought it up as an example of people being able to use a particular use of the word, and ask you to not start throwing around the others while acting like because the original posts didn't use all possible meanings, it means they didn't know them and you're smarter.

Once again, context.

>Go back to school kid you aren't a scholar nor are you mah nigga.

Says the person who's entire knowledge seems to be, as I said "I read shakespeare in high school (like literally everyone else) and was in a couple school plays".

And you have still yet to answer whether or not, by your own definition, the pong paddles are also characters.

But as said, by those definitions, she is 2D, at best. Everything she does is of a one track nature with no real explanation given for why she does it, or depth to it.

She has an okay backstory, but that's it.

wow this is grade a shlock

Nigaa at least wait a couple of posts to prove yourself wrong.

If you gonna lie at least try harder.

Do you know what the word "excessive" means you nigger

Excessive, in its own definition, means more than necessary. If something is more than necessary, it's bad. So yes, excessive anything is bad for the game.

You and me both, brother

How did I do that? Please don't tell me that you think me saying backstory impacts quality of a character is the same as me making a comment on the quality of Bayonetta?

What a great argument.

So what's the source for this jizz magnet?

Sengoku Rance.

Case and point.

>they've perfected making violence work in a tasteful situation

wot

there's nothing tasteful about most western games, and certainly nothing tasteful about violent western games

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You still lied I even posted where you said it, you are too stupid to read your own post or you same fagging so hard you forget which post you are replying too.

Please, link me to the post that happened in?

Excessive according to whom?
If it's OP's opinion, who the fuck knows
Sexual content in general doesn't inherently make a game 'bad' unless you have something against it in the first place

Here is where I linked you same fag.

But that doesn't actually explain anything, it just says I proved myself wrong, when there's no actual way that I did that.

I assumed you were actually going to give an example of a post in which I lied.

And do you even know what samefagging is? Me posting twice in the same thread doesn't make me a samefag you fucking moron.

ikusa megami zero got a full fan-translation somewhat recently though

You said you didn't say kek, it show you don't read your own posts that you are same fagging it shows you don't understand what context is when you fail to use the word metaphor, it shows you don't know character structure and only use big words you mimic from others aND you've proven that you don't know what innuendo and proves you are really stupid and autistic to a point you are unaware of it.

Oh boy.

But I didn't ever say that? I said I didn't only say those in my reply.

You sound like you're honestly just completely out of arguments and have resorted entirely to personal attacks and shitposting at this point though, so I'm out.

Enjoy looking like a retard though.

Yes you did, I even linked it and if it wasn't your post then why did you reply to a posy not ment for you? You are proving to be more and more r eared by the post user give it up.

pretty much

unless you're flat out playing a porn game, having excessive fanservice or other sexual content is usually a telltale sign of having no faith in your game having any other notable or redeeming qualities. Something like Senran Kagura, that's still just "alright", is the exception and not the rule

Do I get to dick the little girl in this?
If so sauce

i don't know any links to the game but it's obvious you dick the girls

dungeon travelers 2 is a good game. its no strange journey but its better than EO.

Depends. Does the game have a on cover disclaimer saying 'This game is lewd as fuck'?

If not, fuck you, you're asking for trouble when little billy goes blind from jacking off too much.

exhentai.org/s/d5f6f9f016/967938-14

4u

90% of this place is virgins, what the fuck did you expect

This is true, it's mostly japan that is doing this. Recent anime and manga do this all the time, shone you got the girl with big tits that is in love with the mc, Harems are just a sexual power fantasy (which isn't a bad thing but it is still a cheap thing) and shojo has beautiful people. In games it's no different, sex sells, Capcom has been using this all the time, especially fighting games where the men are over muscular or twinked, and women have big tits and nice ass or small and cute.
Is it a bad thing? If you abuse it to hide the glaring flaws of your game. If you abuse it and that is your game say like extreme beach volleyball, then your game is a perverted one but still that is what you are going for.

Well you can blame the church and old morals on both sexes on that one. Sex is the easiest thing to use but not every one can do it because they themselves are not sexy.

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You mean machine translation with some schmuck touching up the first part.

I guess it's cool if you want to eat shit, but you shouldn't.

>giving a 10 to a misogynistic piece of shit game
wtf?

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I havent noticed its a single shot. Man that scene was good.

Yeah, shantae is bretty fun

because it's an objective fact. especially looking at the guidelines of the industry-organized rating agencies we have in place of state censors. for a 'PG-13' rating, the MPAA permits essentially as much graphic violence as you want, a specific limited number of profane utterances (infamously permits a single "fuck"), but the second you have even a hint of a female nipple or any genitalia the film becomes 'R', "restricted". you can even have extremely suggestive content, essentially full sex scenes, as long as you don't show any genitals or female nipples.

no amount is excessive.

the name is automoderated here, but searching the little girls name will get you to it. she is one of conquests. it's a pedo game.

someone post the gif

I hate it when people tag shit as loli when its not, hope my isp dont rat me out

Sex is seen as a cheap way to make profits. It's disliked because it means developers can throw sex in their games and then barely try to give the game any other redeemable qualities.

You have to proofs of this

yes
no

this games soundtrack is amazing 2bh

I don't know why people enjoyed this. I was legit disturbed by some of the game over sequences.

Nah, it's provably mostly given it's working with the prosecution. I just started getting weird vibes because that sentence was literally the first line of the job description. Given how small the area is, though, it's probably mostly bs work.

Forgot quote

>game claims to have sexual content
>its just ecchi garbage

wtf is this

So, is this Haydee game actually worth it? I was looking for a game like this (I mean, in gameplay, not the incredibly big tits and ass), it claims to be difficult and it's got good reviews, but I don't know if it's because of thirsty as fuck basement dwellers.

Is that kojima san? :3