This man, and only him, influenced the whole jap game music scene

And Malmsteen.

>King Crimson and Yes
He has good taste.

If you're not jealous, then you must suck at guitar. Always a treat to see a highly skilled player.

More like just prog music in general

One of the Dancing Mad acts has a part that's lifted from a Triumvirate song, and they're German.

I remember listening to The Snow Goose by Camel and thinking it sounds like the soundtrack to a Final Fantasy game in a lot of places.

>Ov Vey Memesteen
>le classical shred skill over substance trash music

not even once, his music is shit, autistic shreddy shit

Indulge us in your patrician music taste you well, toned fine male specimen

Good songwriting > Technical Prowess

Besides, Malmsteen gets old after a while.

youtube.com/watch?v=Dl8Tzodb86k

Nice argument friendo, mad cause you know it's true.

When is the last time you had any real desire to listen to his, or any neoclassical widdly wanky shred music? Did you buy his new album this year? No?

It's almost like technical skill can only replace actually songwriting for so long before it gets boring and repetitive.

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>When is the last time you had any real desire to listen to his, or any neoclassical widdly wanky shred music? Did you buy his new album this year? No?
>It's almost like technical skill can only replace actually songwriting for so long before it gets boring and repetitive.

>When is the last time you had any real desire to listen to Bach, Beethoven, Paganini, Vivaldi, Chopin...

I think you know what that means.

literally never

Exactly.

You are a hipster with no taste.

What are you even saying you ignorant fuck?

All those composers had great songwriting, the problem with people like Malmsteen is that they always play classical focusing on speed and shredding, and theyvplayvehole songs in a monotone way as a result, with no dynamics at all.
As impressive as his technique is, eléctrico guitar sounds like boring garbage when playing classical compositions like that.

>guy who thinks anyone who doesn't listen to fucking classical is a hipster
>muh superior classical taste

holy shit are you serious, fucking nobody listens to classical

He looks homosexual, but less than the FF15 cast

>All those composers had great songwriting, the problem with people like Malmsteen is that they always play classical focusing on speed and shredding
Not true.
>and theyvplayvehole songs in a monotone way as a result, with no dynamics at all.
Again not true.
Listen to something by him that isn't Far Beyond the Sun.
> eléctrico guitar sounds like boring garbage when playing classical compositions like that.
That's just your opinion.

>holy shit are you serious, fucking nobody listens to classical
0/10

That stratocaster color is awful

>n-not true
kys senpai

This man is responsible for the creation of anime and video games as we know them today.

Bow down to him.

From the thumbnail it looks like Marty but it's Yngwie.

youtube.com/watch?v=T1Va1F1dQWo

Fuck off, now.

sounds like hot garbage and you know it

Malmsteen is a hack, the only time he plays anything remotely tasteful is when a classical guitar is in his hands.
There's nothing spectacular about using Paganini's music verbatim, he doesn't borrow from Bach or any other composers really because most of their music didn't fit the "monophony VERY fast" schtick.
t. Classical Guitar player

If you don't listen to classical music it's likely because you can't appreciate it.

Classical pieces should not be played on electric guitar because they sound like bright, tinny trash with no control over the shading of notes except through the pickup selector which can't easily be done and limits one to only 3 shades.
Fuck the electric guitar, the favored instrument of the musically illiterate like yourself.

Plebs who have probably only listened to Malmsteen's first album and nothing after.

His first album is just wanky garbage, but everything afterwards has melody and structure, you cretins.

youtube.com/watch?v=iqk-FMIMAg0

2 minutes in and it's just a bland melody over overplayed chord progressions.

Oh and the guitar still has no dynamics.

;)

*tip*
*respectful nod towards you*

>unironically linking one of RazörFist's videos
>faggot manlet manchild metalfag

you can't make this shit up, link some AlphaOmegaSin while you're at it

I play classical guitar too, you piece of shit.

Both have their qualities, stop talking shit.

>after a while.

After two songs.

Says the person that knows nothing about music.

>Says the person that knows nothing about music.
Says the person that knows nothing about music.

>OMGF I PLAY TOO >:O
You probably don't make a living from it.
The electric guitar's only nice quality, that's artificial really, is its sustain.
The tone is atrocious, all it ever amounts to is an effects conduit to most people.

The electric guitar is taking a fantastic polyphonic instrument and then crippling it.

>lel look at me use my long fingernails to pluck the strings of my little boi pucci gayboi wood (kek, wood like boner!!! ) guitar :^3

electric or bust fag.

you're dumb as a rock, listen to more music
not even him

has this guy (or any other shredder) written a memorable riff in his life?
for someone so heavily influenced by blackmore he sure can't write

We'd play circles around you.
>not even him, listen to more garbage until you appreciate it!

Yeah, and electric guitar is just bad at playing classical, even worse if you use a fucking pick that gives you even less control over the sound.
The only good thing you can play with an electric guitar without sounding like shit is jazz.

Hot arguments there senpai.

Don't shittalk Popeye

>it's garbage because i say so
dumb as a rock

>all music I don't like is garbage

spoken like a true guitarfag

There's no doubt good music out there, I have a fondness for jazz, but there are genres with no redeeming qualities.
Such as metal, indie rock, (((pop))), punk, (((hip-hop))), rap.

The OG Shounen.

absolutely underrated

youtube.com/watch?v=tM0Y1Ajqq7g
make your pick
>hip hop
>metal
>no redeeming qualities
You're making yourself look like a fool

Guitarfags everybody.

>hip hop
>metal
>good

Reported for underage.

Literally what are you spewing out of your mouth?

Far Beyond the Sun is a very memorable riff.

announcing reports is a bannable offense, read the fucking rules next time
no, fuck you
i play the guitar and i'm not nearly as retarded as that guy

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You're pathetic making excuses for lesser music.
>Doesn't even play an instrument or at best "plays" piano which is to say he lightly improves the left hand while the right hand plays a root, fifth, and octave as to create ambiguity of major/minor chords allowing him/her to easily switch between the parallel major and minor of a given key which makes it easy to impress simple people

Is Cred Forums the worst board?

Who and what are you quoting?

>mufags

/fa/ and /gif/ are easily the worst, but Cred Forums is up there.

/gif/ is good for porn which is pretty much all it's used for

Triumvirat was really just an unofficial Keith Emerson fanclub.

You know who needs to influence the game music scene now?
Buckethead.

But the posts that aren't porn are absolutely awful. Not to mention the fact that nobody reads the fucking sticky.

>Cred Forums shitposters are posting on my board

>tfw malmsteens rhythms are dope as fuck but his leads are all the same

But user, he already does..

>any type of music discussion or disagreement is Cred Forums

nah

Any good modern prog-rock? Stuff like Steven Wilson, Riverside (RIP), Pocupine Tree, etc

>118
What did he mean by this?

this one? reminds me of exdeath's theme as well

youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=JxBQPcfFJnM

You bet, you can find it at the end of a .45.

>all dlc

dude epic

this is the real shit.
if anyone disagrees he is a dirty pleb.
youtube.com/watch?v=RUaSi0raSiY

Buckethead post-accident, is plain inhuman.

Why did they call it LTE? Its just Dream Theater without the singing cat.

>accident
Explain?

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Haha, I love root-fifth music, so powerful sounding :D

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Thanks

He sustained a back injury in 2010 and had to go to hospital.
It's why he made that banjo album.

It makes you wonder if he worries about his own mortality.

Japs consider Malmsteen God.

>indie rock
>punk
>hip-hop
>no redeemable qualities

And this coming from someone trying to defend shitty dadrock. What a joke.

youtube.com/watch?v=Nv5jMLJQ9f4

if this song (and band in general) didn't influence every video game soundtrack composer in the late 80s-early 90s then i'd be surprised.

You're as much of a sinner as he is.

youtube.com/watch?v=ycyOtfFmdS4

Yeah. At least v and tv and the like know they're shit. mu is in a never-ending circle jerk of pretentiousness.

I meant to throw rock under the bus there too, thanks for reminding me.

He has some intense arthritis(or was it carpal tunnel?) pains if I recall correctly so he's probably worried about being unable to play soon so he just records every jam session he has these days.

Is the new Opeth album good?

>Being a stupid cunt because someone doesn't like 2deep4u music
Go jerk off to pitchfork.

youtube.com/watch?v=WKNOlDtZluU
youtube.com/watch?v=IUVmcKcTZ4A
These two piece heavily influeced videogame music

So does anyone have a source on this or is OP just being a faggot as usual?

>Look at me, I'm an edgelord.

youtube.com/watch?v=G31n1ITApY4

They did.

But Malmsteen influenced all the "epic" musics, boss musics.

see

my vote goes to /fa/

He is THE edgelord, faggot.

[citation needed]
There's none, Malmsteen is just a poor teenagers Paganini. Paganini wrote beautiful fantastic works for violin and even some for guitar, Malmsteen simply took the violin works applied them to guitar and played Chords consisting of only roots, fifths, and octaves underneath the leads.
What's stopping Paganini from directly influencing Japanese music?
Why does there have to be a middle man?

you say that like Cred Forums doesn' t do that about literally everything you ignorant fuck, music, vidya, anime, porn, jav, food, drinks, everything

who gives a fuck about some old dead dude who didn't even play the music himself?

Just listen to his music faggot.
Malmsteen has many "Japan only" albums, jap interviews and shows. AND he is the only solo guitar player to get famous in Japan.
youtube.com/watch?v=T1Va1F1dQWo&t=7m0s
>7 minutes and 2 secods
Sounds like every JRPG ever.

>Paganini
>didn't play the music himself
You stupid ignorant piece of shit.
I wish I couñd hate you to death.

Marty (((Friedman)))

How do electric guitarists like Yngwei feel being absolutely shamed by Asian kids playing more difficult music on a guitar that's harder to play?
youtube.com/watch?v=h4UzvheAOk8

Are there any Japanese musicians who don't love YMO? Are there any musicians in general who don't love YMO?

Not a solo guitar player.

but he is

that's not fast at all, malmsteen would play at least 3 times faster than him m8

>Arpeggios
Kid, Malmsteen did all that stuff 40 years ago.

Maybe in the 80s and 90s, but nowadays there is no "jap game music scene" and if there is it doesn't involve metal.

Kek, Yngwei has never played a 3 octave arpeggio in the first place. He always limits himself to 2 because that makes it so he doesn't have to make an leaps like this kid is doing.
There are 8 fret jumps in that song that have to be done in the span of a 32nd note.
Mr. Malmsteen would be lucky to even be able to read the sheet music.

No shut up, you shut up
I am not slower than some fucking asian kid
I'm the fastest in the universe

He didn't get famous playing solo.
Fuck off.

>Malmsteen did arpeggios 40 years before Villalobos
Nice.

Paganini did it well over 2 centuries ago.

Neither did Malmsteen, he was in many bands before his successful solo albums

Do you really think this is that impressive? It's slower than most solos. Not even virtuoso solos, just normal rock style solos.

When you compare it to the stuff that people like Vai or Malmsteen do regularly, it's pretty tame.

Like, go look at the devils guitarist solo Vai did in Crossroads. It's much more technical than that, and it's not even particularly fancy for Vai, or virtuoso music as a whole, just the first one that came to mind.

And a well set up acoustic (or classical) isn't really any harder to play than an electric.

>Malmsteen did it
What did he mean by this?

Why do Japanese people love cock/dad rock so much?

Are you implying that is hard at all?
He is even using finger style, which is much easier.

because they have a juvenile idea of what is cool

Awful taste.

Do you even play guitar?

The stuff in the vid isnt really hard and it isnt fast.

It's the inverse...
Without Megadeth Marty would be nothing at all.

>slower than most solos
Speed does not equate difficulty ever.
The stretches, jumps, dynamics(!), and colouring of the music in combination with speed make this song far more difficult than anything Malmsteen has ever done in his lifetime.

Come on user, you should be able to do fret jumps like that within 3 or 4 years of consistent practice, it's not that impressive at all. And as said, it's finger picked, which makes it easier to hit different strings much quicker than with a pick (though you do miss out on some other techniques too).

At least choose an impressive finger picking player if you're going to, like Tommy Emmanuel or someone instead of just some random kid playing a kind of quick piece of guitar music.

buckethead is way better tho

well it's a good thing he did and he used his success in Megadeth to help propel a very successful solo career in Japan

Low-tier bait.

yes
youtube.com/watch?v=adV8-_hgL4g

speed is the only thing that matters, if you can't play fast then you should just play bass

It's like weebs and idol music, only it's middle-aged Japanese men and dad-rock.

American music has always had a weird, sometimes unclear popularity over in Japan, despite the latter's music not really being popular in the west (in the same way foreign music is for Japan, at least).

Needs more guitar autists:
youtube.com/watch?v=MBvAvW6KQDk

ITT: kids thinking that playing an electric guitar fast with a pick is hard

This is why /mi/ laughs at this board.

That's an awful lot of worthless conjecture.

Malmsteen isn't american.

Try it. Good luck.
Classical right hand technique takes way more time to develop than plectrum technique.
>I can't read this shit, where are the numbers!

I didn't say he was. The original poster didn't even ask about him.

The fact is that Malmsteen was the FIRST solo guitar player to get famous in Japan.

They romanticize about other countries too much. My Korean neighbors who've I've known for almost 12 years still think Paris is this great romantic city when in reality it's a total shit place to live in.

>spot the pretentious artfag

>Speed does not equate difficulty ever.

The speed is literally the only somewhat impressive thing about that song.

He makes a couple jumps that any competent guitarist could make, and the stretches are nothing, he reaches at most 4 frets from what I could see.

There's nothing impressive about that piece at all, it's mediocre classic guitar that you're jerking off because you've got no idea how difficult most virtuoso style music actually is to play.

Like, with dynamics and tone, did you know that even the angle your pick strikes the strings has a huge impact on how the note will sound? Not even just how hard you pick it (which, lets be honest, is all that kid's doing, plucking harder sometimes), but the actual angle the pick is at needs to be adjusted to play in a virtuoso style.

Oh no, a bunch of 13 year olds might laugh at us, I don't know how I'll ever recover!

Pic related, Lucas is the average Cred Forums browser/

>Classical right hand technique

You mean finger picking, right? There's nothing fancy about fingerpicking, and literally any competent guitarist should be able to do it at least decently.

Both have skills that need to be developed, and both create very different styles of music. You can't do with a pick what you can with your fingers, and vice versa.

There's also nothing particularly impressive about playing a bunch of arpeggios.

The Dear Hunter, although whether it's really prog depends on the album.

Is it pretentious if classical music is objectively more important than your dime a dozen radio pop or that cool indie band in you buddy's garage?

Well, seeing how Lucas is completely right in your picture I'd say you're correct
.

>I am special snowflake
No you are not.

Also, it's about sweep picking.
You have to train both hands... Unlike the one you showed.

>objectively
subjectively

>t. Someone who has never touched a classical piece
Why not make today the day?
Try it.

Arpreggios isnt some secret ultra hard techique. Every intermediate E Guitar player will start to learn them.

Classical music was objectively more important to history and the development of music.

Play it.
I want to hear you play it post it on clyp or vocaroo.

>starts retarded arguments
>goes on about how he's an expert who's studied many genres of music despite only knowing basic Cred Forumscore
>calls himself a musician at 13
>won't fuck off no matter how many times people say they don't give a shit and don't want to argue with him

Typing pretentiously and acting like you're smarter than everyone else while somehow not getting the message that you're not winning the debate, but rather that no-one fucking wants to debate you, and then feeling like you looked so good throughout this that you followed up by messaging the person who repeatedly told you to fuck off, and then screencapped it yourself.

This is an 18+ site kid, we don't need more posters like you.

I plan on giving it a go later, don't have my classic on hand right now.

But lets be honest, no matter what I say here, you'll either go "haha you couldn't do it!", or "haha you're lying to me and actually couldn't do it!".

There is nothing complex about arpeggio's. As said, they're just an intermediate technique.

Are you really this desperate?

>Japs make a game
>"glorious nippon does it again how can westfags ever compete?"
>Japs buy our music
>"shit taste who even likes Japan anyway lol"

>I-I just don't have my classical with me...
Play it on your precious electric with a pick then.

user, you do realise that just because people don't want to sit down and learn a song at your demand (songs take more than 5 minutes to learn), or even if no-one could play it here (which I doubt, it's not a complex piece at all), it doesn't mean it's hard, right?

It could just be that everyone here sucks, or that they would rather keep doing what they're doing instead of dropping everything and frantically trying to learn a whole piece to prove a point to some stranger online.

By your same logic, if you don't post a clip of you playing through any of the Malmsteen songs, it means you're wrong and they're actually logically the next step up from smoke on the water.

>play this finger picked piece with a pick

You've never actually played a guitar, have you?

>By your same logic, if you don't post a clip of you playing through any of the Malmsteen songs, it means you're wrong and they're actually logically the next step up from smoke on the water.

Fucked up this sentence.

I meant the linked in this thread songs, and that the most complex classical pieces are logically the step up from smoke on the water.

Except he's not typing pretentiously at all.
You're probably just stupid and feel intimidated with big and completely normal words, like the retards in the picture, he's right about everything but somehow he's 13 and he annoys the people who are wrong so it doesn't count.

I'm digressing though, the point is that you're a fucking plebeian that's comparing the musical garbage that is Malmsteen to Paganini, and the only reason you're not being laughed at by everyone id because this is a videogames board.

In your opinion. I can say cavemen were more important because they beat sticks on shit which eventually lead to classical music. Doesn't make it a fact because the value of importance is subjective.

I was talking about the asian kid...

Marty Friedman
You're an obnoxious fanboy
He's skilled but he brings nothing new to the table.
>ñ
hola
When he got famous in japan he was solo

>guitarfag
>the genres were guitars prevail the most have no redeeming qualities
wait what

Kek, okay user, if you don't think that kid's being pretentious, it might be time to take a look in the mirror, because you might actually be him.

>I'm digressing though, the point is that you're a fucking plebeian that's comparing the musical garbage that is Malmsteen to Paganini, and the only reason you're not being laughed at by everyone id because this is a videogames board.

Or maybe because we're talking about the difficulty to play them, and not everyone agrees with you?

Kind of supporting my point that the only reason you don't think that kid's a pretentious retard is because you're one yourself though, thanks.

Early Yes is good. Afterward they went down hill

see

You wouldn't be able to play it even if I gave you weeks, it really doesn't matter if I give you 5 minutes or a year.
You don't play guitar beyond a first year level, you trivialized what the asian kid was doing(Etude 2 is a piece Andres Segovia himself did not like to play because Heitor composed what he wanted without regard to the limitations of the guitar)
So forgive me if I've been persistent in your laughable pursuit to marginalize classical guitarists, right hand technique, and the music in general. All of which are the pinnacle of guitar in complexity and difficulty.

None of those Facecock faggots have anything even remotely interesting to say. They're all a bunch of tryhards who dont know shit about the era they're talking about seeing as that other faggot was born in fucking 94 ffs.

>i'm going to keep calling you pretentious so I'll somehow be right

I've never talked about the etude in any of my posts, all I said is how Malmsteen is derivative garbage, playing something that was done already better centuries before him and in a monotone style that only appeals to kids that buy Guitar World and download tabs from ultimate-guitar.
Liking it shows a lack of taste, thinking it's especial in any way, shape or form is plain ignorance.
Electric guitar shredding is the ultimate pleb filter, only guitarfags that don't understand shit about music like it.
Musicslly, there's no difference between Malmsteen and Michael Angelo Batio.

lets face it. japs basically stole everything from the west and put their own spin on it. the only thing they ever really came up with was the katana which shatters agains the most simple european weapon.

japan before the white man

Beyond that this kid doesn't seem to notice that at the end, the other kid confirms he doesn't even listen to two real punk bands. So the bias of the image is clearly on the side of "lucas". I don't think this guy even noticed that.

>le harmonic minor arpeggio douchebag

real niggas listen to jason becker

>You wouldn't be able to play it even if I gave you weeks, it really doesn't matter if I give you 5 minutes or a year.

Kek, don't be so predictable user, as was said here it was obvious you were always going to just go "Nuh uh doesn't count it's shit/you didn't do it/it's because you can't".

>You don't play guitar beyond a first year level

You caught me.

>(Etude 2 is a piece Andres Segovia himself did not like to play because Heitor composed what he wanted without regard to the limitations of the guitar

That doesn't actually say anything about the difficulty user, simply that one person struggled with it.

>So forgive me if I've been persistent in your laughable pursuit to marginalize classical guitarists

Which I've never done, they're different skills, but that piece isn't particularly hard.

>right hand technique

By which you mean finger picking.

Probably because they just wanted to post the photo and go "haha so true", and then move on, not have some Cred Forums sperglord start acting superior and starting arguments in the comments.

>i'm going to keep calling you pretentious so I'll somehow be right

Well you're kind of proving over and over again how pretentious you are, so I don't even need to really say it.

>Electric guitar shredding is the ultimate pleb filter, only guitarfags that don't understand shit about music like it.

>I'm not pretentious, but if you don't like exactly what I like it's because you're a fucking idiot pleb with no taste at all who doesn't understand anything

Kek.

Literally my entire point in this thread has been that what that Asian kid was going, any virtuoso guitarist could do, let alone ones like Tommy Emmanuel that focus on playing finger picked stuff.

Not about the quality of their music, entirely the technical difficulty of it. Of course, you classical autists take this as a personal attack and have to go on and on about how your personal tastes are the objective best. Chill.

malmsteen is over rated

He didn't say he didn't listen to them, he said he didn't like them.

Yeah I totally heard him play something impressive in the last 20 years, oh wait.
Becker is a great guy, what he was doing at 16 was impressive for his age, but I think we mourn the potential he had rather than what he played. If he never progressed past the 80's shred and into something more respectable then I'm not sure it wasn't the best thing for him because his compositions are pretty cool today.

why the fuck would I want to listen to wheelchair sounds and beep boops

>instrument skillz wankfest thread 101
I want everybody in this thread to commit suicide
I don't care if you're Master Batio or you can unleash the fokken fooree, if your taste in music is about as shit as your guitar playing is fast, all you deserve is a kick to the nuts

youtube.com/watch?v=SAsHFSrh0i8
youtube.com/watch?v=572Dq97s6kA

youtube.com/watch?v=pB9DHFUIrbA
youtube.com/watch?v=vlayiIBH75o

Pro-tip: your hero Tommy wouldn't be able to play what that kid played.
He's not as good as you think he is and his technique is absolutely atrocious.
His arrangements often have the voice leading sensibility of a two year old and rarely capture the spirit of the original song.
Here's an example of a good arrangement of a pop song.
youtube.com/watch?v=mdrcPVgxStg
Before you start, yes Doug Niedt is better than you and Tommy, thanks for asking.

>Fuck the electric guitar, the favored instrument of the musically illiterate like yourself.

*Tips piano*

get a load of this guy, probably listens to slow shit for grandpas like david gilmour

>dadrock
What does this term even mean? If someone's dad likes something it's automatically mad? Get out hipster.

I think its 70´s rock. Now they also call 80´s stuff like Metallica and Megadeth dadrock/metal

Kek, alright pal, whatever you want to believe. Go back to your shitty Cred Forums general where you can all jerk each other off about how classical music and musicians are all the most talented people ever in every single way.

But Far Beyond the Sun is his best track

>david gilmour
At least you tried.
Yngwie is for middle aged rednecks and first year guitar pupils.

So the greater musical community who studied music, have degrees, and write books?
Will do senpai.

>Fuck the electric guitar, the favored instrument of the musically illiterate like yourself.
The guitar was literally used by clowns to play in exchange of food

I play classical guitar too and I'm really sorry that you don't have enough talent to play both

So I suppose Randy Rhoads was an absolutely garbage player because he was active in that era. I can't stand pretentious fags that hate good stuff because it sold records.

The electric guitar was played by drug addicts for drugs.
The four course guitar was one one of many instruments that the court composer would play. You should learn some history beyond some clown one time played it because he was starving.

He's an overrated fuckstick who needs another skinhead beatdown or three. Posting a superior shredder.

It's a shame they did something stupid and he died just as he was starting to play more classical music.

Guitar shredders give rock music a bad name. Prove me wrong
youtube.com/watch?v=jVPjcfGqs8Q

Yep, that explains why "Random asian kid" is generally considered one of the most talented guitarists ever.

I have to assume you're not over 18 though, because it's insane how much you're lacking in any self awareness here.

Rock guitar and classical guitar are completely different skills, but any competent fingerpicker could play what that kid was. It's not a challenging piece in the slightest.

But seriously, you keep using "you do it then" as an argument, so why don't you post a clip of you playing even an easier virtuoso piece, like Satch Boogie?

Izzy Stradlin' did, too.

You can hear GnR in most 90's jap games, and I'm pretty sure there's even a Megaman where all the bosses are named after GnR members.

Also, Izzy moved East after GnR split and has been doing things in China and Japan ever since.

Anyone who unironically uses the term dadrock has failed music entirely

bow.

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>The electric guitar was played by drug addicts for drugs.
Exactly. Arguing about instruments is only done by retards with self esteem issues

bow

bow

>ITT: "I can't shred so therefore shred is shit"

What a great response.

Probably shouldn't chuck out challenges if you can't even play, kiddo.

I can't play a lot of the music I enjoy, but shred is still generally shit, only tolerable in thrash/death metal

Final Fantasty battle theme youtube.com/watch?v=BTFD5DZwK7g

Sounds like unlistenable shit.

You're welcome?
You never had any intention of committing to playing any of the "easy" music I posted.

>mom that feedback is scaring me!

Because as I said, I don't have my classical on hand, and you can't play a finger picked piece with a pick.

You've been throwing out "you're a shit guitarist and that's why you don't like the stuff I do, because you have no talent and are new to the instrument" all thread, so why not prove to us just how talented you are, or at least how easy guitar virtuoso music is? Should be easy for someone as accomplished as you clearly are to play such easy pleb music as something like Satch Boogie, right?

The only thing I know about this guy is one blues lesson he made, I still don't know what the fuck this was about as clearly it wasn't blues music at all

Man, you're a fucking retard if you think knowledge is pretention.

>Shredders and Classical fags arguing over which is harder to play.

Who gives a shit? I don't understand why some seem to think difficulty is a metric of musical quality.

Here's what good guitar playing looks like.

youtube.com/watch?v=lFsPYyj7mIU

having a song like this play during battle would be amazing
m.youtube.com/watch?v=LCnebZnysmI

Shitty production but otherwise its pretty cool grungy song

But that's my point. The kid has no real knowledge, and is acting pretentious by acting like he does.

Did you miss the part where he goes on about how he's a musician and has studied the history of many genres, then can only name basic Cred Forums-core?

If you really think that kid's knowledgeable, you have no place in a thread talking about music, because you clearly know fuck all about it.

Gotta love all the other pretentious teenagers that have come out in defense of the kid though, really proves my point that Cred Forums is mostly filled with those sort of people.

without even looking I know this is a generic Cred Forums teenager try to out-"taste" each other thread but it's not surprising the japs are obsessed with yngwie and guitar wank. they dont have souls so the technical aspect really stands out to them

they should make a japan timecapsule and all thats in it is a baseball cap, a coca-cola, a yngwie or paul gilbert album and a bottle of pure anal smelle

m.youtube.com/watch?v=89zM9pZzt0U

stand aside plebs

>people not knowing about the most metal soundtrack of them all.

youtube.com/watch?v=SpHSDJaPtHE

That etude is one you can. It's entirely monophonic, no fingerpicking required.

Jesus, Rian is that you? You were such an edgy tool in that image. Threatening to beat up a 13 year old who said didn't even actually imply that you and yout friends weren't as special a set of snowflakes as you'd like to think?

Get a fucking grip dude.

While on the subject of prog and shit anyone know an album and band with the same feel and sound as Images and Words? Can't stand post vocal chord destruction Labrie.

This.

the entire thread is pointless, because Blackmore is everything Malmsteen tries to be, to this day.

His entire persona is modeled after Blackmore, even his fucking musical choices.

He is the ultimate cuck. And while Blackmore met his future wife while she was still a teen only to score her later, Malmsteen is the biggest loser poser in rock history.

I'd say Lucas is the least cringy there.

Huh, you're right, I'll give it a go I guess. If the thread's still up by the time I have it I'll upload, but I doubt it will be considering it's like 4AM here.

Yeah, you caught me, I'm actually the specific guy from the picture I took from another thread, what a coincidence?

Those other people are retards too, but if you honestly think that kid's not being pretentious as fuck, or that he actually has any real knowledge about music beyond what's on the front page of Cred Forums, then as I said, I really don't think you should be in a thread discussing music, because you're clearly incapable of doing so in any meaningful way, you lack the knowledge or attitude.

sounds like Thunder Force

>Who gives a shit? I don't understand why some seem to think difficulty is a metric of musical quality.
Self-esteem issues, that's all there is to it. They need to dickwave in an anonymous imageboard instead of actually playing music

The same happens with videogames

That's not Guilty Gear though
youtube.com/watch?v=jiDguHfPCDU

but I do

m.youtube.com/watch?v=QbhHngLx494

>Its a "Cred Forums has shit taste in music episode"
Just accepted it Cred Forums you have shit taste in almost everything.

Pagan's Mind or whatever for the first track
For the rest, Kenny G maybe

Imagine a '90s Final Fantasy soundtrack without Emerson, Lake and Palmer existing.
Not possible

youtube.com/watch?v=5QpXBazWT80

Then it'd be based on early Genesis and be much better as a result

Post it in /gg/ on mu, there is always one going and they could use some music played for them.

very nice

Not disagreeing. ELP are the definition of overrated.

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>His first album is just wanky garbage

>starting arguments that no-one's interested in being in
>trying to act like you're the reasonable wounded party when people tell you to fuck off and they're not interested
>I hate mainstream music
>B:I am a musician, an avid listener of music, and have explored the histories of many genres, despite him only being 13
>Only lists basic Cred Forums-core despite his apparent understanding of the history of many genres
>treating a random facebook chain like a formal debate, despite no-one being interested in debating him, and repeatedly telling him to stop
>then messages one of the people who repeatedly told him to fuck off asking if they like two of the most mainstream punk bands around
>then screencapped this post because he thought it made him look good

Yeah, that's so much less cringy than a bunch of people who just identify a bit too heavily with being different while also saying that all genres are good, and that they don't really identify with any particular movement.

That's a good idea, though I haven't browsed that general for a while. Is it still mostly people arguing about shit that makes no real difference, and boasting about how they have x or y guitar?

Is it cool to post my music tastes in here?
youtu.be/DAY_84q5WAs?list=PLot6cES9gA8YQOH66YJl0LTSzZrU732ag

>posts worst girl

Yes

vocaroo.com/i/s0PLHxXbme4D

Rate my playing, did it in only one take with a shitty headphone mic so there's a few mistakes

This ugly britbong makes legends like Vai, Gilbert, Satriani and others tremble in his presence: youtube.com/watch?v=J503OvHWKko

if only playing music was a speed contest. we could all be the best.

youtube.com/watch?v=GbiQNM0HrrI
The drummer always gets me.

Yngwie Malmsteen is shit

pray to a real god, like Paul Gilbert or something

this live solo of him playing Sevens at like ~4:45 is the tightest shit I've ever heard in my life

youtube.com/watch?v=ZsCKpRzfMzU

And here he is making Tom Morello's multi effects seem pointless youtube.com/watch?v=s_0QizlG7Rs

Needs more right hand practice.
Evenness is key, look up Giuliani's 120 right hand studies and spend time accenting particular fingers.
This will give you more control over dynamics.

really underrated

None of this is metal.

This is metal.
youtube.com/watch?v=jqnavLNvvRo
youtube.com/watch?v=cixW6rogZ48

Thanks. Any tips for learning Flamenco guitar? I have the rasgueado down, but I can't play picado with long nails

Makes sense, his stuff always reminded me of Keith Emerson

Shattered soldier is a very underrated game.

youtube.com/watch?v=9YJL6OcX1ms

Yngwie is horrible masturbatory garbage. His technical skill is amazing but his music is shit and technically complicated for the sake of being complicated. It just doesn't sound good.

>Guilty gear
>Not metal
nigguh
youtube.com/watch?v=Hh1onX6fBYQ

youtube.com/watch?v=s7t5jAsTcuY

youtube.com/watch?v=rGetImTgyFA

Here's more.

This

>it's an I can only play harmonic minor scales episode

I shorten my nails quite a bit these days, I used to believe I had to have them long to produce a pretty apoyando, but I have discovered as I've aged that I just have to shape and round them a little more.
This is conducive to picado as well since short length helps speed.
When practicing picado for speed, grab a metronome and play staccato notes on any of the strings, aside from low E, and rest on the string below. The staccato comes from muting the string with the next finger so it's ready to strike as the other comes to a rest.
My picado is only at 140BPM comfortably and hasn't gotten much faster in quite some time.

I don't know how I forgot about Dwelling of doom, it's note for note the same song on some parts. Holy Orders is not as similar as the other ones posted though

Pretty good. Malmsteen isn't my favorite but I really enjoyed his first album and Rising Force. He's an egotistical cunt like most big name shredders but I love his style and like that he keeps things more metal than Vai or Paul Gilbert, although they're both probably better players from a technical standpoint.

I see the high school orchestra shitters from Cred Forums are here to suck dicks, I wished they'd stay on their containment board.

The entirety of his first album gets stuck in my head. Especially Black Star and Far Beyond the Sun.

Exactly. For when you want Dream Theater but not that piece of shit Labrie.

What does Cred Forums think of Animals as Leaders?

I agree that it's great to highly skilled players, but he is awful. He play s fast. A drill can do that job. He doesn't play melodically at all, and if you can't do that what is the point? I'd take Dave Gilmour over him and his ilk anyday.

Marc Bolan had a much bigger impact on Japan OP.

Ok but gets old fast.

bimp

that was shit

Perhaps the same could be said for all shred.

God tier malmsteen coming through, the solos in this are some of the best in fact this whole album was insane!

youtube.com/watch?v=FnOPIJ-JQxM

Perhaps. More for some than others and Animals as Leaders qualifies as the more boring type for me.

More like underage b&

Malmsteen is one of the best. But every time this motherfucker just keeps on surprising me, the stories about him are hilarious especially during the days he was in GnR.

youtube.com/watch?v=JsjYqm-2PDk

>Musicslly, there's no difference between Malmsteen and Michael Angelo Batio.

There really is. There's a lot of difference.

His hands are fucking huge, and I'm not even a manlet.

I really like what I've heard of him though, playing his stuff feels great even if I'm sloppy as fuck

holy shit i thought i was the only nigga that knew about that nigga, massive respect muh nigguh

this tune always destroys me imagine if he never got ill what kind of kino stuff he would be making like this, fucking cincredible

youtube.com/watch?v=0lR1tt24mo4

youtube.com/watch?v=sVf8W-Ov97s

youtube.com/watch?v=kw-KT4B_Nys
I wish Buckethead would do an entire game ost. I know he loves video games and even did the music for old Sega Saturn commercials. I have seen him live but I wish I could have seen him in the 90s when he was more experimental with deli creeps/praxis

HOLY fucking shit WTF? How did they not get pulled over for this?

He wrote this piece of music fully diagnosed with ALS. He used a special apparatus with a motion sensor on it to select notes one by one.

youtube.com/watch?v=J7MEDrzcPbM

Malmsteen got the Rising Force solo from Megadeth's My last words, he wasn't in a position to sue about that one

Don't know about the rest

>made a song about his favorite pornstar

youtube.com/watch?v=Fcyt1hsqCxY

Best metal vidya song

youtube.com/watch?v=h8CmfRgxvVQ

He should stick to the guitar, honestly

Feels good

Fucking love him, cant decide if my favorite album is Eclipse, Trilogy, or Rising Force.

Cool, so what criticism about that particular video and his opinions in it do you have exactly?

You didnt even make an argument you fucking idiot. You just spouted a meme to try and fit in and called it autistic shit. That is less than meaningless.

You're both just stating things and saying theyre good or bad, then your replies are saying
>nu uh I said its bad!
thats all this entire thread seems to be.

I remember a lot of them, so by that definition yea.

Bretty cool

Cute girls bring everyone together, the rest is typical Cred Forums edginess which is the same here on Cred Forums as it is there. Nothing specific to Cred Forums about it.

>band named Unreal City

Once you read Eliot, you can't escape him.

>only him
Yeah kid, sure. Whatever you have to tell yourself to get to sleep at night, kid.

He removed the vocals and used the song in Colma. We have all been cucked by the porn industry.

>you're a fucking plebeian
How do you expect your opinion to be taken seriously by anyone?

Holy fucking shit! I need more like this!??! Holy shit!

And whats stopping anyone from picking a hilarious reaction image and trivializing Jason Becker? What a meaningless post.

Never heard of that second link but im in love. That is a beautiful evolution of Far Beyond the Sun and I love how majestic it sounds. Dont even care that its a copy because its damn good.

Jesus christ. Only on Cred Forums does someone make a thread about a famous guitarist and people reply saying shit like "Fuck the electric guitar, the favored instrument of the musically illiterate like yourself"

lmao

Much like everything else this person had an influence on VG music too.

youtube.com/watch?v=_WZxZnpk-mU
youtube.com/watch?v=4pzcqZTVfDI
youtube.com/watch?v=Ghy6M7jLNpY

yeah he's bretty gud

youtube.com/watch?v=bUZK9dasP8s

I know you're joking but I have aspergers so I seriously do like Yngwie for the technicality. Music telling a story or appealing to emotion doesn't really grab me.

>MGS fanboys

but user the best music related vidya is JetSetRadio
and the references from this men are nonexistent

My favorite Malmsteen solos are probably from his work on Alcatrazz. No Parole From Rock n Roll is the only album where I love each song, all Yngwie's other albums have a few stinkers.

>technicality
Yes, dividing his time between natural, harmonic, and diminished scales and arpeggios means his work is really technical.
If you cared about technicality you'd be listening and analyzing classical music.
You'd look at Chopin's use of a Neapolitan 6th moving to a vii*7/V then back to a i or his use of a German augmented 6th to modulate to a different key.
Malmsteens work is not a complicated exercise in musicality and there have been players better before and after him.
>but it sounds cool
Okay, you like his music.

Wasn't there a song where Batio BTFO of Yngwie at his own game and Yngwie wasn't good enough to reply to it?

I wonder if he was writing about twitter sjws when he made Brain Police
youtube.com/watch?v=DuABc9ZNtrA

Masturbatio wears a fucking badass wig

Cred Forums is so beyond the irony of Cred Forums and Cred Forums that they actually like and talk about the normie pop music shit that is created to make billions off millenials.

It'd be like if Cred Forums talked about CoD the same way Cred Forums talks about pop music.

Not him, but there is a difference between theoretical approach and Yngwie's technical playing style. Very few players at that time were as proficient in staccato and legato as Malmsteem was except (at the time) Fripp, Di Meola, and John McLaughlin.

Yes, Yngwie's style was an overrated gimmick and simply a novelty at the time, but at the same time it was something new in heavy rock. It was just enough of an oddity to influence people, and for some reason Japs mostly.

I would say the most musically capable guitarist is probably Satch (it least that I'm aware of). I wouldn't have thought that either until I saw him teaching a lesson and breaking down a potential lead into dozens of musical directions it could go into and playing each one with some interest.

Has Santriani ever played anything far outside his comfort zone?(not metal, rock, blues)
Has any of his jazz work approached Pat Metheny's work?

He knows his way around certain types of music, but to say he the most musically capable is disingenuous as I'd say Chris Broderick is probably more capable, he's played a lot of different music in his lifetime.

No, I think Satch doesn't really adventure far when writing, which is the big tragedy imo, because he's definitely capable. I like Broderick too, but he's not exactly adventurous either.

I guess what I'm saying is Satch had probably the potential to be the strongest and most well-rounded player, but he doesn't really budge within his style.

I would put Methany, Al, and John all sort of in the same school of traditional jazz fusion players, while Fripp was a bit more experimental.

i literally never heard of that guy

Yngwie please go

Matt Pike is our one true god

>they still haven't grown out of metal

really? you wanna be "that weird guy" forever? when are you gonna cut your hair by the way?

>elitist classical-only fag
>polcuck
LOL

Cred Forums was alright before all the waifu garbage

I blame Grimes

>classical only
>mentions jazz has merits
Please.

>there are genres with no redeeming qualities
You really should have listed sub-categories of those.

Saying Boston "hardcore" has no redeeming qualities is far better than saying punk has no redeeming qualities.

Yea I really like how the electric guitar sounds, simple as that. I'll check out your recommendations though

Cred Forums has always been hypocritical, but when indie artists started winning Grammys, they went full suicide.

I graduated to punk. It's more honest music

Posting the best death metal band of all time. Gone but not forgotten
youtube.com/watch?v=kdGR9lU6DBc

I like Malmsteen's version of Gates of Babylon more than Rainbow's

youtube.com/watch?v=c92ah7Wb3hU

>Japanese games of old were timeless classics
>they were based on western media of old, including games

>modern Jap games are garbage
>they are based on Japanese media

Really makes you think, huh? Without the western world, Japan would be a shithole untouched by time.

You mean they're based on Japanese media that spawned from being tainted by Western media, and that's why they're bad now?

Grimes and Fantano are cancer.

Grimes is worse tho and if you dissent from the Cred Forums hivemend, they chimp out.

The best metal style lead guitar player is Marty Friedman before going to Nippon. He had pretty good phrasing and played tasteful, albeit being slower than most other players in the same category. The only shred guitarist making meaningful solo albums is buckethead. He has some cool ambient stuff, some cool hard rock stuff like Binge and Grab..... but also 2 gigatons of crap.

The least intresting shredder is Batio.

Cred Forums has its moments though

Non sequitur. Western games are shit in general outside of the occasional exception weather they were domestically or foreign influenced. Almost every lauded game from the west is a CRPG or a FPS of some sort and most of them aren't good, but more of a best-of-the-worst.

Did you actually just fucking compare Chopin to Yngwie Malmsteen?

Are you surprised? Look where we are

t. weeaboo.

>Western games are shit in general

That's why final fantasy took Ultima's overworld, right?

That's why dragon quest took Bard's Tale's battle system, right?

That's why dungeon crawlers like Etrian Odyssey are literally just Wizardry spinoffs, right?

The JRPG genre is literally a domesticated version of CRPGs, and without them, you wouldn't have panty quest simulators that are as mechanically deep as Wizardry 6.

It's true. Most western classics are shit like System Shock, Deus Ex, Torment, Quake, Doom, LoK, etc... most of which are hot garbage.

I don't even like JRPGs. I would consider them shit just like CRPGs. It's basically every other platform that nips excel at that westerners dont even bother attempting.

Try harder.

Yeah, stuff like Wizardry and Ultima are shit. I don't know why the Japanese wanted to copy the style of those games.

>RazörFist
>manchild

I feel absolutely GLAMOROUS

I cant try harder to like shitty games user.

But he is
>Swears like a 13-year-old who just discovered the words
>Only listens to metal
>Dresses like a highschooler (camo pants, band t-shirts) and has long greasy hair
Textbook manchild.

Is Yngwie good at riffs?

>tfw I dress like a manchild
I honestly don't give a fuck anymore

Jerry garcia>any le shred fast trash man

Call me when these faggots can play 20 minutes of improv lit out of mind on acid

If he's so great why is he dead

Fuck you

Have you ever improved in a jam band? Improv is easy and fun and the best part of playing music with good musicians. The tenants of blues, fusion, and jazz have heavy roots in improv.

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>ITT: "I play guitar so I can't be criticized until someone else plays it too because I'm too insecure to accept opinions"

No

How did you extrapolate that from what he said?

How do you not extrapolate it from it? You should start reading your own sentences

It's boring in excess, you'll get over it once you turn 18 once you realize that's all these guys have is zero substance shredding

youtube.com/watch?v=hb5QaCfm7bg#t=1m10s

He never said he couldn't be criticized user, and your conclusion is different than his. You conclude he's insecure due to dissenting opinions, but his is that most shred music is aimed at musicians, notably guitar players... which it is. It's niche.

"ITT" doesn't mean "You"
People call out shredding for the boring gimmick it is and people who do it get defensive and start going "hurr he's better than u"

lmao git gud
youtube.com/watch?v=iQ8ml7eENuI

get on my level
youtube.com/watch?v=cDcBKVKQizg#t=2m10s

The exact same thing can be said of any genre of music and will be met with the same resistance.

So, so good.

the best

Pic related-era Yes.

>>Only listens to metal
youtube.com/watch?v=_VTpvHYrUag
youtube.com/watch?v=dY_mc7jU29k
youtube.com/watch?v=rFZBJu8D1EU

4:30 always looked sped up to me

this mix is the definition of paper thin

holy shit

It's depressing how few of you fucks ever bring up Richie Kotzen in these threads. He's like an '80s shred version of Tommy Bolin with a singing voice that sounds like a cross between Glenn Hughes and Chris Cornell and a pop songwriting sensibility akin to Daryl Hall.

It's a fucking crime than John Mayer made it big worldwide but Kotzen didn't.

He also made an album covering Gundam songs.

He did! It had Billy Sheehan on it too, from memory.

bump this great video game thread

I prefer Michael Romeo.

>Cred Forums discussing music

holy fuck you are even worse than Cred Forums

Literally copy and pasted from /jp/. What's wrong, didn't get enough (You)s?

The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.

Noice

Sorry, but your argument has way too many generalizations to take seriously. Also, I feel like I've seen this same exact post somewhere before. Is it copypasta?

Now post the rotational velocidensity one

>it's a Cred Forums leaks into Cred Forums episode
Fuck off.
You have your own containment board of pretentiousness, circlejerking and retardation.
Stay here and rot, Cred Forums is already a sea of shit, we don't need more diarrhea to paste up things.