Which one was better in the end?

3>5>4>2>1

>>it's now the "cool" thing to call GTA V better than IV
I knew Cred Forums was full of contrarian faggots but it's worse than I thought

>3
>Good in any shape or form.

Fucking kill yourself.

V sucked for me because of the retarded/immersion breaking AI compared to IV

I could tolerate it with the 360/PS3 version along with empty World due to hardware limitations but the shit should have been fixed for PC/Xbone/PS4

what are you guys comparing between the games to determine which is better?

If IV had all the technology and art upgrades from V it would be amazing

V is better, the missions in IV are very lackluster and only the DLC had some good ones, mainly TBOGT.

V does lack some features but at the same time has plenty new ones, and is much more polished. The gameplay might not be equal to Max Payne 3 but its a lot better then GTAIV.

I like IV more. V is my least favorite 3D GTA.

GTA V with the Redux mod is better than IV.

V might have been as good as IV if they didn't put all their effort into GTAO

>He's so blinded by contrarian nostalgia that he forgot how limited and repetitive the game play was.

Sad.

>3
>bad in any shape or form

GTAO>GTA4>GTAV

It's GTA, you drive around and cause mischief

ragdoll added more depth to the silly gameplay than previous additions to GTA

Could you pick up trash off the street and throw it in V?

>Silent protagonist.
>Terrible weapons that autoaimed even on the pc verson.
>Zero memorable characters.
>Zero memorable missions.

3 is easily the worst GTA, anyone who says otherwise hasn't played it.

Every time a new game in a series comes out people on Cred Forums immediately start praising the previous installment.

Even though it doesn't matter:
In order of "soul":
SA > IV > 3 > 1 > VC > 2 > V

In order of "good":
SA > IV > V > VC > 3 > 1 > 2

In order of "physics":
IV > SA > V > VC > 3 > 2 > 1

In order of "free roaming fun":
SA > V > IV > 3 > VC > 1 > 2

In order of "my favourite (nostalgia goggled)":
SA > IV > 3 > 1 > VC > 2

Debate me, I don't care, leaving thread...

I like V more. Brucie missions and Ballad of Gay Tony were the only good things in IV. The game was otherwise much too bleak.

>It's GTA, you drive around and cause mischief
Not everyone is a casual gamer, friend.

>Cred Forums suddenly likes GTA IV

What happened?

...

I forgot V in "my favourites... fuck
SA > IV > V > 3 > 1 > VC > 2

Now leaving thread.

Is that seriously a make or break feature for you?

So what "hardcore" activities do you do in GTA?

Darts? Bowling high scores?

Please, do tell

IVfags on damage control

Everyone who liked GTA IV stayed quiet because saying anything would end in retards going on about the new hotness.

IV is better in almost every single conceivable way with the exception of graphics.

4 was objectively a bad game, especially if you followed the developer hype/promises

By the time 5 was released, the genre was dead.

>GTA V had jets, customization and uses for money.
GTAIV beat it in every other way. Especially dlc.

V shat all over IV.
What the fuck has IV got? A gritty plot that makes no sense the minute Niko shoots fifty mobsters before escaping from SWAT teams and helicopters?
Retarded combat where the cover button is god and blindfire headshots are the best way to play it? Oh but they stumble around a bit huh? Big woop.

can you? I forgot to try it

>Everyone who liked GTA IV stayed quiet
>being this new to Cred Forums

You can't.

Playing the actual game and doing the missions.

>It's GTA, you drive around and cause mischief

Teleporting Police ruins that

u can't customise cars in IV, fucking trash shit what's the point

I've been hear a sadly long time. Because that's what matters to you.

Don't feel like debating old games with new games until the dust settles. Cred Forums is filled with fucking retards, I've been here long enough to know this.

Sleeping Dogs.

>the missions in IV are very lackluster
Chase missions were the worst offenders. Every single chase was scripted from start to finish. Get in car, follow target, wait for target to reach its goal, shootout, done.

>developer hype/promises
Rockstar said almost nothing about GTA 4 before it's release.

I've played the GTA series from the beginning and V is my least favorite. It had no soul.

GTA5 has actual easter eggs and exploration. it's automatically better. the only thing GTA4 did better was grittiness, and lower threshold for vehicle damage. the story was equally bad in both and Mp is equally good in both

...was a pretty shit game

>It had no soul.
Please expand on this, that's very vague.

Right so the ultimate GTA experience is finishing the game as fast as possible got it

>Every single chase
No, only some. In most chases you can shoot them while they're fleeing, though it's difficult without mouse aim.
Some chases you can avoid entirely by placing a bomb on their getaway vehicle.

Not him, but he's right. It had no soul at all. I don't know how else to put it.

No love was put in that game.

>still $60 on steam

Guess I'm never going to get a chance to play the game.

GtaV is objectively better in every single possible category, i actually kind of feel bad for people who lie to themselves to claim other wise.
Ops image is amusingly misleading.

Gta V had the worst protags in the series. Franklin is so bad that you want to drop the game after the third mission.

i bet u think its made for normies

reeeeeeeeeeee xDD

It was polished and played it very safe. Like they checked every requirement off for a GTA game but ended up just being milquetoast in every department.

>DURRRRRRR

better play safe than make game shit

>4 comes out
>everyone shits on it
>5 comes out
>everyone shits on it
>suddenly 4 was good

This happens every single.

GTA4 had way better physics.

GTAV's car physics are shit, watered down and every car is super light and has no inertia

It has objectively better:
Physics
Shooting
Combat
Driving
AI
Police
Map

What does V have? A shitty tank that you drive around for 5 minutes and never use again? Who gives a shit about having a million guns and cars when the core of the game is fucking trash

>rockstar
>make shit game

not possible

But they made the worst game in the series.

You know, I just think you don't have a real point to make. Tons of love was put into that game, you can feel it just by taking a walk around in first person view. The way all the areas were hand crafted with unique pedestrians, the fun and varied missions, the zany cast of characters.
You people are fucking nutters, both IV and V are pretty damn good.
>it was polished
Sure
>played it very safe
How so?

youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI

upvote

GTA 4 - Better graphics and physics
GTA 5 - Better gameplay and more fun to play

GTA4 multiplayer was a no fun clusterfuck of randomness. GTAO is actually well made and good.

5 by a mile. Almost everything about 4 was terrible. Shit filter on everything and no NYC does not look gray and brown all the time in every area. Terrible driving. Whiny characters that were never relatable, likeable, or even had worthwhile motivations. Lazy mission design where chases all play out the same and shooting was just dull (we all know the heist was good but one mission in an entire game isn't exactly a good balance). Even shit like the comedy clubs were awful because they actually paid Gervais and Katt Williams to be as unfunny as possible.

5 isn't a great game but it's good. 4 is just absolute shit that shows hubris from the Housers.

>played it very safe

They stuck to the formula too a T except for heists which give the illusion of choice and multiple protags which make the story less enveloping

>objectively better
Come on now, you know half of those are personal opinion at best.
The police complaints are all from casuals who want to be able to hide in an alley and instantly get away from cops too, but guess what, you can't do that in GTA4 since you need to escape the fuckhuge circle first.

It means that the person saying it has childhood nostalgia for the previous game and since they're bitter nerds now, new game can never measure up to the false image of the original game that their juvenile sense of wonder created in their memories.

>GTA 4 - Better graphics

>If a police car touches you, you temporarily lose steering control
>Police spawning is even more spammy
>Added suppressors and police line of sight but killing a cop instantly gives them your position and police will path to practically every hiding spot the player is in and will ignore the areas without the player (in other words these two features are useless and do not function properly. In the case of the latter it is blatantly obvious they always path to you when able)
>Animals can call the police
>First person fov is terrible and, when combined with the muzzle flash and weapon bounce, is useless when compared to third person
>Only around a third of the map is interesting city (which is small and boring compared to liberty city. Aforementioned police changes only exaggerate this)
>Rest of the map is dull wildlife areas with the occasional settlement
>Did I mention the police will ruthlessly spawn in the wildlife areas with the same frequency as the city?
>Driving is streamlined and bland
> but flying has some turbulence. Why did they put more thought into this and less into driving?
>Police will suicide against the rhino and eventually kill it by ramming the back (seriously this is the same shit the gta 3 ai did and that was released over a decade ago)
>Story drags on even more than Gta 4's
>Story has more scripted trash than gta 4
>There's a fucking yoga mission in Gta V
>Story has a few heists. You usually don't keep the money for most of them.
>Heists are also all very scripted (notably the last one with the gold. The entire car chase segment is scripted to hell)
>Trevor is a lel whacky randuMb character. His aura of power feels very contrived
>Franklin and Lamar missions are a non stop of mind numbing ghetto speak

The only thing Gta V did better than Gta 4 is the aiming (some reason gta 4 had deadzones) and performance. All the bad shit from Gta 4 was put into Gta V plus more.
Try again faggot

only recently for gta 4 and 5
few years ago people still shat on 4 and called 5 a much better game

IV

v may have a better map and more playtoys overall but its so fucking dull especially online i just didnt play it past 2015

would love to get back into iv but that engine is horrid

>implying GTA IV looked like that when I played it

>They stuck to the formula too a T
As opposed to what, making a 3d platformer? What the fuck.

>>Animals can call the police
They actually fixed this (albeit it took them 13 months to fix it)

>play IV story
>missions as so bad
>its so boring u couldn't finish it

nice game u got there

>Physics
Yes
>Shooting
No
>Combat
You mean melee? Then yeah
>Driving
Fuck no
>AI
Debatable
>Police
Fuck yes
>Map
Fuck no.

>Vice City that low

Spot the San Andreas cuck

VC > SA > IV > V > 3 > 2 > 1

Since someone made a video showing the things GTA IV has that V not

See "Latest game in series is worst, previous was best" applies to just about every long running franchise according to Cred Forums

this so fucking much

not to meantion online is horrid and rockstar are fucking evil these days

i wish gta v concentrated more on SP especially more michael and trevor missions

Franklin was dead weight

>Franklin and Lamar missions are a non stop of mind numbing ghetto speak

San Andreas had this too though

Modded IV looks better
youtube.com/watch?v=1o-ojTM6tCE

You mean things Cred Forums never noticed on their own? What a bunch of tools.

>my opinions are fact: the post

I have no clue what you're saying. I think it's for gamers, "normies", grandmas, whoever the fuck will buy it, is who they made it for.

>You know, I just think you don't have a real point to make.
It was boring, lifeless and a piece of shit game over shadowed by every GTA before it. The point is, no matter how much money they through at worker bees to put "loving detail" in doesn't change the fact it was a piece of shit. Slave hours, shit management, lifeless game. Prove otherwise, you fucking can't.

You can tell when people are not having fun making a game, and this was that. If you can't see it at that level then there is no getting it into your head. "has no soul" means exactly that and you have to know what that means to know what I mean when I say it. You clearly don't. So move along.

Can tell I'm wasting time tonight responding to this bullshit.

>implications
>as if user knows why others are posting that GTA IV is more fun
Maybe realize that you can't just post >contrarian every reply. V's cops are legitimately uninteresting, and they just spawn around the player without even following realistic guidelines. They just home in on his position without following a grid structure, not to mention being able to shoot weapons and items out of their hands from IV being removed.

They don't have interesting driving technique either, just spawning in front of the player on repeat, and using the infinite-police-speed technique to hit him from behind. IV actually tries to spin the player out (without using artificial physics).

Pedestrians going down to one shot is trivial gameplay.

There is no crouch for taking cover without using the shitty cover controls.

Gunplay has no recoil and same-y sounds.

Then there's all the awesome features that IV has: parkour / ledge grapple for actual city traversal, physics, item pickups, leaving doors open with the radio on, cop missions, interiors, and driving that goes beyond the arcade, simple driving of V.

this

retards would say "stop nitpicking" like with the police AI and cars touching your car and suddenly you'd experience a scripted "loss of control"

>it sucks, it's shit, you're wrong, i'm right
Like talking to a goddamn brick wall.

>posting this every thread
>it's not even a valid argument

V is objectively better in every conceiveable way but Cred Forums will have to be contrarian to look intelligent and tell you that IV was the best ever and unerrated, it totally beat V, etc etc.

IV was fantastic, don't get me wrong, but V is literally a hundred times better.

>finish IV
>literally nothing to do because map is boring as fuck 100% city
>multiplayer was alright but no progression

>finish V
>car customization, flying and shit
>play multiplayer with progression

You know, GTAIV was so soulless. You can just tell.

>IV is better in almost every single conceivable way with the exception of graphics
GTAV has a better map, story, missions, activities, side missions, secrets, a greater variety of weapons, vehicles, clothing and increased traffic/pedestrian density while running better than GTAIV does on the same machine.

All GTAIV has is physics.

see
the webm of and

STOP CHERRY PICKING YOU FAGGOT,
MODDED PC GTA 4 VS PS3 GTA 5, CLEARLY AFRAID OF THE ANSWERS.

that shit was barely playable with 20+ fps

Literally objectively wrong, see

GTAIV is harder to get running iirc.
>Still wants GFWL accounts
>GFWL is kill

Liberty City was a mistake. What a boring ass city. GTA4 was shit man. I liked the story and characters but playing it was a chore.

Are you brain damaged because only the silent protagonist part is true. Are you sure you played the game?

>Acting like subjective opinion doesn't matter in a an art form.

It is like talking to a brick wall. Dense fucker.

Stop shilling you're shitty video.

>No none of those things in the video count because I'm gonna call you a shill

>IV was fantastic, don't get me wrong, but V is literally a hundred times better.
This is the way I feel but people seem to be going through some insane mental gymnastics to deny it.

of course there is this faggot what always spam with those shitty webms/videos

Liberty City is a purgatory. I hope rockstar never revisits that place again

I'm glad we're at the point where we can just insult each other.
Fuck you bitch nigger you haven't got jack shit of substance to say.
>durr it just doesn't have SOUL man

IV is one of the highest achievements in the history of video games.

V was an over-reaction to all the faggots who complained about how real, and therefore boring, IV was, along with a cash-grab online mode.

I've realized, they both suck for different reasons. There is no difference between miles of empty hills with a grass texture stretched onto it, than miles of nothing but, grey sky scrapers. They both suck. Hate GTAV more for spawning the abortion known as GTAO tho.

>that WEBM doesn't count because I said so

Vegas when?

>making the game more fun as a video game is a bad thing
fuck off

None of those things count because GTAIV still runs like shit.

IV was the worst gta though.

>Absolutely nothing to do in the city
>CAUZIN LETS GO BOWLING

The only good thing from that game was the Russian radio station that had silly songs

>effort
GTA:O

The game was little more than GTA IV's Free Roam mode with missions attached when it first launched months after GTAV even game out, and that was if you could even login which was such a clusterfuck for the longest time.

The planet earth when?

V fags will defend this

>that doesn't count because of an irrelevant point I'm gonna bring up from 10 years ago

are u forced to buy them?

Why doesn't Cred Forums talk about joining a / the /vg/ crew? GTAO is super fun with buds.

>free online
>still up and STILL free content being made over two years on
>oh no they charge OPTIONAL extras

and if you say "everything is so expensive you need the cards" then you have no idea how to fucking play GTAO

the grind in GTAO is pretty cancer

Hopefully the next game, assuming Rockstar don't just make GTAO2.

>running brothels
>gambling
>casino heists
>cooking meth in the desert
>crazy desert cults
>accidental marriage

>All GTAIV has is physics
thats all it takes really
i dont care about different looking weapons or cars unless the handling is fun

GTAV was a better game, but GTAIV was more technically impressive.

>it has no soul
>explain
>it was shit, boring, and not fun. "Prove otherwise, you fucking can't"

>this is how people argue on this site

m8, if this isn't a troll then you are a genuine moron

Can't defend that but the GTAO updates did add some pretty awesome shit to the singleplayer, like muskets and other fun guns. I think they also added a mode where you can choose any character model from the game and run around with invincibility on. It was meant to be a machinima thing but I usually just jumped around with cheats on.

The game still doesn't run as well as GTAIV, that isn't irrelevant.

Just watch CrowbBats video

Here it is for reference
youtube.com/watch?v=GWVtZJo-HqI

I usually like CrowbCat's stuff but this was laughably pointless.
And then someone made a video doing the exact same for GTA V showing they both have good and dumb shit lol

youtube.com/watch?v=qFbkXffa85E

The radio stations in V were shit and you could tell they ran into problems with licensing and were reluctant to shell out too much money for it.

The radio stations in IV were amazing and perfectly captured the zeitgeist of the late 2000s

full retail game how is online free?

V missions were way more fun than IV. More variety than IV in the world as well.

sounds like you have a shit comp from 2008

I played it on a lenovo Y500 with a GT650m and an i5 mobile and it ran great all the time

V, it has better graphics

...

''''''Free'''''' content with ridiculous prices that you won't be able to afford unless you take up the game as your job and do literally nothing but missions 24/7 since everything else pays like shit
You can see how much the greedy kikes at R* inflated the cost of everything by comparing the cars we had on release (muscle cars that cost around 40k) with the DLC ones (a fucking muscle car costs 800k), you're basically forced to buy shark cards

>Game from 2008
>sounds like you have a shit comp from 2008

Link us to the R* social page or give us a screenshot user. I'm down

>forced to buy shark cards
or cheat

yea because I had no problem playing it on an i5-2500k and a 560ti and my old 460 could play it great as well. Sounds like you're pointing out an issue that doesn't exist anymore

It really is a shame that GTAV didn't include every little minor detail that IV had but in the end that's all they really are, minor details.

I like them both, I think GTAIV had a way better story, atmosphere and characters than V and did a good job making you feel like you were lured into this criminal conspiracy.

GTA V's story started out ok but I thought it got kind of uninteresting about halfway through. Also that final mission felt incredibly rushed and was not a statisfying way to end the game at all.

Overall I like GTAIV more for the story and V is better for dicking around. Also Online can be a lot of fun even though its kind of unfocused and grindy unless you buy rockstarshekels. Driving and shooting is better overal in V imo, even though I liked the driving in IV. Being able to go faster is ultimately more fun imo.

I just wish we'd have more interiors to mess around in in V. Oh and something like the swing that launches you in IV would be great to have in V

I guess it's on the /gtag/. I haven't been there after quitting in like January.

people who prefer 4 = pc gamers

people who prefer 5 = console gamers

prove me wrong

V's mission design made me so angry. Scripted pieces of shit. In old games, they said "Do this" and then, you could just do it any way you wanted. At least in IV I could end a chase mission by destroying the person/car. In V, it's invincible and everything is scripted, even the traffic. I have to drive for 10 minutes listening to characters I don't care about just for the car to blow up in a cutscene. Just let me kill someone, already. What's the point of even having physics if you're not going to use them? I'll never replay Vs story, ever.

>cheated loadsofmoney
>buy a lot of shit
>get banned
>keep my shit and $25.000 extra
>mfw

why would pc gamers prefer 4 when it runs like shit on pc and 5 is actually a good port

they let you keep everything you buy?
if so I might fill a garage with x80s in case I ever get banned

The pc port is fucking horrible, why?

Well if you only played it once how would you really know?
I've played the first ten missions or so a bunch of times (two playthroughs on my own, getting through missions for younger siblings and once with a casual friend) and I've figured out there's a fair few times where you can cut missions short by doing stuff prematurely.
For example, in that early mission where you have to repossess the bike you can take the dude out when he first goes to drive off through the fence and skip the entire chase if you're quick enough.

>reluctant to shell out too much money for it

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_V_soundtrack

Come on user of all the things to shit on don't try to go for the radio stations really

IV's DLC vastly improves it, but the base game was still not great. They stripped away a lot of the goofy fun that had become a staple of GTA. Just felt like they were trying to make a serious crime drama, and it just didn't work out.

Most folks felt this way at the time. Saint's Row 2 came out around the same time, and people were saying that that was more of a GTA game than GTAIV. It had that good mix of humor and seriousness.

GTAV was a return to form, while also advancing the series forward. Character movement didn't feel like you were controlling a barely sentient sack of potatoes. The shooting mechanics were actually good. Driving wasn't stupid. I got many sensible chuckles out of the story, and there were also legitimately cool moments.

I beat GTAIV when it came out, but I never felt the desire to go back to it. GTAV, I've already played through the story three times.

the pc problems on 4 are overstated it runs fine on my duocore

>all these people having problems are wrong, it runs fine FOR ME, therefore everyone is wrong

There's always one of these idiots

Yeah it's widely known as an unoptimized shitfest. It worked fine on my older shittier computer but it fucking hates this one for some reason.

>He needs a duocore to run a game from 2008
>"it runs fine"

Just because there's not much effort there it doesn't mean it isn't the most effort they put in the game.

I don't need a duocore it's just what I have

Remember when GTA IV came out and everyone fucking hated it and called it a glorified tech demo? Everyone kept saying it was the worst in the series because stats were gone, haircuts were gone, airplanes were gone, the shitty was objectively ugly, customzation overall was ass, driving was wonky for no reason, and that the story was terrible. All it had going for it was gay physics that made everyone waddle around like a drunk baby when they got pushed, shot, anything. Everyone kept saying San Andreas will always be technically superior due to having way more content, "Graphics and ragdolls dont make IV a better game!", and now just look at you shmucks. Stop doing mental gymnastics to fool yourself into thinking GTA IV is better because muh ragdolls and muh steering.

>Play and love GTA4 online
>Hear GTAV is habbening
>All me n my friends want is GTA4 but in a much bigger map with planes
>They add a lot of stuff people wanted but somehow the soul feels gone
>Map is big but complete ass
>Planes feel oddly useless and i always fly them to chilliad and parachute out no matter what
GTA4's physics and ability to play without being instakilled by player cars n guns was a treat. RPG fights on the city roof tops were a treat and being swatted by heli blades was fun too.

I know that one, thank god. But, for every one like that, there's another where you can't control anything.

>When everyone is oblivious the nonstop IV vs V circlejerk is just fueled by R* to make us forget Red Dead Redemption never came to PC.

Yeah, people pretending GTAIV was good really shows the hipster mentality of Cred Forums.

Can't like the newer thing, oh no! Don't want to risk looking like one of those "normies"!

But, user! Don't you like flying a plane for 15 solid minutes listening to Trevor & Ron? Or how about Yoga? How about Michael's family disappearing for half the game, eliminating any dynamic development? Surely, this is riveting gameplay!

Fair enough, I recently watched a speedrun of GTA4 and I was quite surprised how many shortcuts there were in missions that you otherwise wouldn't notice attempting to play the game normally.

Hey now the yoga mission is a one time tutorial thing, GTA4 had that mission where you go bowling with Michelle (at least I think that's her name).
Just being fair, I really like both games.

If I liked 5 better I would say so. why can't you let people have their own opinions?

>the shitty was objectively ugly
Whoops meant to say city was objectively ugly

>the story was terrible
Nigga don't make shit up now, the story is the best of any GTA and that was recognised at the time too

this looks terrible outside of really cherrypicked examples

Yeah, but couldn't you just shoot Michelle in the face and skip it? I did that on my second playthrough. First time, I didn't mind bowling. Yoga is disgusting tho. Rockstar lost the plot with that one.

Not that guy but

>the story was boring
Fixed

>the story is the best of any GTA

Nope

Name one with a better story

Yeah it really wasn't all that fun. I think all it did was help you grind up Michael's special metre, which rose pretty fast if you used it often anyways.
I thought the hunting and tennis minigames were alright though, even if they straight up ripped the tennis controls from their old table tennis game for 360.

Vice City, San Andreas, Chinatown Wars

All of the other GTAs

Just because GTAIV is the most like some shitty crime drama you'd watch on TV doesn't mean it's good.

San andreas
Gay Tony
Lost And Dammed
Vice City Stories
And your favorite: V

We're trying to have a serious discussion here user

>V story better than IV

V is better than IV in a lot of aspects but story is not one of them

being a grimdark drama doesn't make the story any better, it's still "go there and kill someone for the mafia" but with depressive dialogs

V's story is a weird, lazy mash of 3 previous stories already done well. There is no comparison between San Andreas and whatever the fuck Franklin's knockoff was.

>There is no comparison between San Andreas and whatever the fuck Franklin's knockoff was
Because CJ and Franklin want two completely oposite things?

V, but that's not saying much. IV was an abomination to the series. V tried to revive it, but didn't do a great job. And unless Rockstar of David gets their shit together and makes GTA VI a fucking masterpiece then the GTA series is pretty much done.

No, they wanted the exact same thing and they went the exact same way about it, with the exact same circumstances. Just none of the characters or development because too many main characters, too short of game, GTAO must sell shark cards.

This right here

I can't accurately judge gtav. I over hyped myself for it, something I usually don't do and haven't done since it came out.

>they wanted the exact same thing
CJ was trying to prove himself to his brother and expand Grove's gang operation, Franklin wanted none of that shit, he just wanted to be rich as fuck and forget Tanisha.
They both used the same means which are usual GTA stuff but that can be said about every GTA protag

This video is even more misleading

IV was more sim than game
V was more fun

But honestly rockstar "games" are not very fun to begin with

iv cuz of the atmosphere
v feels way too bright to me and far from real

>GTA series is pretty much done.
>GTA V is the 4th best selling videogame of all time
>done

Literally the opposite.
GTA4 was a test run for RAGE, leading into a poorly-performing, janky mess.

That didn't happen. CJ wanted to get out, he left years ago. He got sucked back in after family death but, once it went bad, he was done with it. Then, Sweet gets out of jail and sucks him back again. Franklin goes through the exact same process, only the game forgot to do it. My text message girlfriend shows up and plays Sweet's position and now I gotta save my "family". Franklin's story is a cheap knockoff of CJs with no development, made by a company to play on the nostalgia factor. V's story is lazy.

>GTA IV had soul

>Keep trying to do heists
>Longest I waited was over 20 minutes
>Almost never have enough people join before they get impatient and disconnect or I say fuck it and bail first so I pretty much don't even bother doing them anymore
>Rare occasion that there's enough people, they're fucking retarded and keep getting killed from doing stupid shit or randomly disconnect anywhere during the mission - best way to piss everyone off is to disconnect/die right before the mission is about to end
>Give up because most of the time is spent staring at a lobby screen and not actually playing
>Also all the fucking time being wasted waiting for the game to transition from one session to another "seamlessly"
Nah fuck GTAO.

>GTA IV
>realistic windshields with plastic sandwitched between layers of glass like they should
>side windows made of tempered glass and shatter to tiny pieces like they should
>rear can be both depending mostly on age and production of vehicle. Like they should.

>GTA V
>all glass on cars behaves like glass pannels in 2001 Red Faction

CJ got sucked, yes, but he did want to impress his brother and prove himself

>GTA IV
>ugly as shit and runs terribly
>GTA V
>looks amazing and runs like a dream

Cars need fuel to run.

Neither game properly simulates going to a gas station and fueling up.

What pieces of shit, not realistic at all 0/10

6 better only have 1 MC, so they can put some actual focus to the game

Please do not attach Yotsuba to your garbage posts. Thank you.

Naming a better story than the story of the crazed gunman who wants to stop killing but keeps doing it anyway? Try every other GTA.

never had perfomance issues with IV, but I only got it for PC after EFLC came out, so maybe I just missed worst of it.
>rockstar removes realistic and visually pleasing system, with cartoon tier bullshit
>people are actually defending it

This shit has been happening with every instalment of GTA. A batch of underage faggots grows up and think the GTA they grew up with is the best.

Everybody used to shit on IV a couple of years ago, without exception. 'Muh boat driving', muh no fun, etc. Now all of the sudden it's GOAT.

>rockstar removes lame, boring shit and makes GTA fun again
>people are actually attacking it

>gta V
>Better shooting
nigga i played the whole game with the handgun and it didn't made a single difference, in gta IV the assault rifle felt like you were shooting bullets, also the people you shot stayed alive for a while, in GTA 5 enough shots to the foot with the handgun will instantly kill anyone

TLaD maybe.
Nico's story was clearly written by someone who never played video game, much less GTA game.

>a game is defined by its realistic windshields with plastic sandwitched between layers of glass

The controls in GTAIV are garbage and Niko moves with no sense of purpose.

Completely agree.

V was better

oh, you're just shitposting. whatever

It's tricky. Here's opinions.

IV
-Unmodded game looks too desatured
-Poor environment variety/Liberty City only
-Main game's story is too serious
-Gun stores are badly placed as they're illegal
-The story takes too long to get properly going
+Walk in restaurants
+Vigilante and other side missions
+Great damage model on cars
+More fleshed out world with 2 expansions and a lengthy main story
+More in-depth AI
+Map feels tightly packed
+Jokes hidden in the environment (ads/billboards, etc.)
+You have plenty of money for the activites available and it's not hard to make more
+Made no unkept promises

V
+More vibrant graphics
+Good environment variety/Los Santos and surrounding area
+Main story fits the gameplay more thematically
+Gun stores can be accessed faster and more easily
+The story missions are immediately more exiting
-Restaurants removed / less legal activities
-Most side missions removed
-Simplified damage model
-3 playable characters spread across one game's length makes main campaign feel all over the place/lacks focus
-Cops don't run away when outmanned or injured / aggro over nothing
-The map is larger but also emptier
-Humorous ads and billboards removed or toned down from the environment
-Despite the series revolving around getting rich you have little money to buy the properties in game unless the game is played in a certain way
-Being able to pull heists was hyper up but only limited to the main story where it came into play maybe 3 times
-All the promising cut content alluded to in the game files

The rest I don't either remember or where about equal in quality.

>in GTA 5 enough shots to the foot with the handgun will instantly kill anyone

just example. One of many small, immersive things, you didn't notice until they were gone.

V was enjoyable.

IV was shit

Stories of Liberty City was GOAT

Fight me

I literally never noticed and it never ruined my enjoyment of V

People that think GTAIV is good played it when they were young and it was their first open world sandbox game.

Anyone that grew up with older GTAs knew it was incredibly lackluster and clunky as hell.

Saint's Row 2 was better at being GTAIV than GTAIV was, and everyone knew it.

But now those ignorant kids have grown up and are in their hipster phase, so they have to hate the new, objectively better in every way game, in order to sound cool.

>Unmodded game looks too desatured
it's color filters. Brown in IV and yellow in TLaD. I hated it. Thank god for mods.
TBoGT had them removed, and only had bit enhanced pink and blue in middle of night.

>Stories of Liberty City
I think TBoGT was the great one in that pack, TLaD was basically GTA4 with the grimdarkness amped up ridiculously.
Thought the story was sad? Well now your gang of friends implodes and everyone ends up dead.
Thought the visuals were too dark? Fuck you, here's some film grain.

Then Rockstar takes a big shit on Johnny in V.

Nope

started with the original GTA when I was 13 or so. It's ok people can have differing opinions user

>grimdark
Why does this buzzword keep popping up?

GTAIV was the worst game period.

>Lackluster car variety
>driving was less fun
>saving cars was aids
>environment was boring as there was very little variety
>clunky as shit
>le brown/gray meme city
>no military or anything neat
>guns cancer to get

Ill admit the stores, ads, etc were neater, but GTA5 is better overall

GTA IV Ballad of Gay Tony

I was just trying to make a point about how dark the stories were, I don't really have a problem with 4 or TLaD's stories. Much preferred TBoGT though.

read the thread and find out

>not using the xliveless mod

the funny thing about car damage in GTA 5 is that it used to be fairly detailed, somewhat moreso then GTA 4 in launch. Even on the 360, I remembered being a retard and driving inbetween a train track and a indestructible pole and just the train would just demolish the car beyond recognition.

They ended up just reducing the damage models for reasons.

I'm with GTA since GTA 3.
I loved 4 for TECHNOLOGY and MP, but found SP boring as shit.
Episodes made it for me vidya equivalent of second coming.

GTA V is not bad, it's just took too many steps back from GTA IV for me to not notice.

V, those screenshots are really cherry picked. They both have some wonky car damage.
Also the city is better, the missions are much better and there's variety to what you can do. The game also runs much better than IV.
I don't know why people pretend IV was more than a tech demo.

driving was slope, like the car shockers has no weight on it.

What would be easier and make more sense to do?
Mod GTAV to have the features already in GTAlV? Or Mod GTAlV to look like and have the features of GTAV?

>this mod puts the physics of 4(euphoria) on 5

GTAV had nothing but improvements for me.

I can't think of a single meaningful thing GTAIV does better.

I have like 400 hours in IV, and it was a fun game, but lets not kid ourself.

It had some things going for it, but it was a huge step down especially coming right after SA. They stripped the game of everything. No haircuts, clothing was so-so, no drive/bike/fly school, shit tier vehicles selection (no bicycles, no planes, no special vehicles like tanks), no rampages, shit tier map, shit tier missions (go to x, kill y- literally every single mission), shit tier weapon selection, no car customization.

The game was bland as fuck in terms of actual gameplay.

I feel completely different. Maybe GTA V didn't "have soul" but it was a much more coherent experience than GTA IV

>Chinatown Wars
>good story
Muh honor stories are so fucking generic

but did it have soul?

Best DLC coming through

I think everyone is correct in saying that GTAV is better than GTAlV.
Ballad of Gay Tony however kicks the shit out of GTA V in every single area.
It has better characters, a better story, the missions are wild and dont repeat themselves, the hand to hand combat is crazy deep, the guns are fucking amazing, the shooting is superb.
GTAV the shooting is probably the weakest element it has going for it. Firefights are just so bland in comparison.
Ballad also has the most soul, since that is now a category, and extremely satisfying ending.

I feel like people who are saying GTAlV is better are actually just thinking of ballad of gay tony

Forgot link

youtube.com/watch?v=Wx-9KE1NTdQ

>its the weekly lol gta4 is better than gta 5 shitty contrarian opinion thread

kys

best song coming through
youtube.com/watch?v=5N-hpv-A9q0

Both sucked major dick, Niko Baloney was bland as fuck and i didnt care for whatever his struggle was. GTA V had the better world, feels more alive but the Three Stooges return tour is as uninteresting as Niko's plight, i hope this is the last time they make a game with three protagonists.

Modded GTA V rocks though, the user made cheats blow whatever Rockstar did out of the water.

youtube.com/watch?v=mO-H-kgVn5A

>its a user gets triggered by the truth episode

I mean, SA is still better than IV if you're trying to go the Zelda cycle route.

I really wonder what makes people defend billion dollar corporations when they screw up their own product. Probably a regret of those 60$ spent on a shit game, huh? Too bad, GTA V is only worth pirating anyway.

SA > VC > IV > III > V

The only right answer. Tho i enjoyed VC more, because i am a metalhead, but that's subjective.

FPWP

>that pic
There's literally no meaning behind any of that.

R* are just trying (and failing) to recreate the magic of SA mysteries.

DELET THIS

>nothing to do
This is wrong:
>races
>drug runs
>flying pigeons
>repossessions
>dating
>assassinations
>vigilante missions
>strangers and freaks missions
>mini games
>friendship bonuses

There was a decent amount of content, not to mention that the story is the longest out of any GTA.

>100% city
And? Better to have a densely packed, detailed city filled with interiors and landmarks than miles of empty desert.

V

>story was written by someone who never played video games

which is why it turned out so well

>And? Better to have a densely packed, detailed city filled with interiors and landmarks than miles of empty desert.
GTAV had both, except the desert wasn't empty. It was pretty great, you should try it for more than twenty minutes sometime.

sometimes I feel like people here played a different version of GTA IV than me, how is Liberty City more densely packed and detailed than LS? Doesn't GTAV have landmarks too?
The story being the longest isn't a good thing when 2/3 of the missions are go to a place, kill someone. Also how can you count the pigeons as a good thing?

SA and VC had soul, 4 was shit and I never even bothered with 5.

So GTAV is secretly a spiderman game?

>Have to pay money to play as other characters in IV, none of them do anything unique from the others
>V just has 3 characters all with different special abilities in the base game

>No planes or jets in IV
>V has them

>IV has a serviceable amount of weapons and vehicles
>V has 10X more weapons and vehicles with more coming every month

>V has smoother combat
>V has better graphics
>V has much better customization
>V has a much bigger map

Other then the shitty story and the multiplayer being way to grindy, V is the better game in almost every way. Nothing wrong with liking IV, but anybody who says it's the better game is a complete fucking retard

Liberty City gives the impression of being more lively thanks to the dynamic AI and the claustrophobic environment. This means that more NPCs can be concentrated into smaller areas to give the impression of a crowded place.

On top of that, the AI and physics allow for some dynamic events that make the world feel more alive (cops arresting criminals, gang shootouts etc.).

>how are the pigeons a good thing?
They're literally no different to hidden packages.

IV has better story, atmosphere and attention to detail
V has better everything else.

>Liberty City gives the impression of being more lively thanks to the dynamic AI and the claustrophobic environment
I think both games do it well enough, Rockstar perfected the open world genre, you can like IV's atmosphere more but that's a matter of personal opinion

>On top of that, the AI and physics allow for some dynamic events that make the world feel more alive (cops arresting criminals, gang shootouts etc.).
So, like, in every GTA game?

>They're literally no different to hidden packages
Nobody in this thread is defending hidden packages or using as a way to say V is better

the focus on multiplayer made V shit

Devs left single player behind to Jew kids out of money for shark cards instead of them making actual content llike IV had expansions

completely original opinion you got there

I usually used mods that fixed this as a side so I didn't know. Good on them for addressing that even though 13 months for that is somewhat ridiculous.

A lot of it is fact. Someone else already posted the video of their car steering while changing the radio. As far as I know the rest of it (excluding the animals^) hasn't been addressed at all. The police in Gta V are just disgusting. For fucks' sake Halo 1 put more thought into the ai than Gta V; so did Gta 4. As for most of the barren map, if you genuinely enjoy that then good for you. It doesn't change the fact that there's little out there, it doesn't make it any more difficult for the police to swarm you, and how small the actual city is comparatively.

I've put more hours into modded Gta 4 than I'd actually admit. Even with same mods (excluding 1 that hasn't been remade yet) I cannot make Gta v enjoyable. It lacks character and a good fun factor. Fucking with the trainer and the army base is amusing for maybe an hour but after that there's nothing left except a game that actually runs pretty good. Don't even try to mention the multitude of collectibles: nobody likes those fucking things and adding even more of them was an insult, not a mistake.

I'd say Gta 4 was great. Definitely not perfect but even with the shitty, unnecessary deadzone that hindered aiming it was still extremely fun. The driving wasn't hard at all to get accustomed to and even mastering it wasn't impossible. From a technical point Gta V is also great. It runs better than most every other unoptimized piece of shit out there and looks good enough considering its scale. However, all the grievances that have been outlined multiple times still stand. What's baffling is how much of it is a downgrade from Gta 4 (this is not limited to the minute things like windshield textures and water-around-a-helicopter physics).

>wahh GTA V was perfect wahhh

I just want them to fix the fights. And the kicks. It feels good hitting someone and knocking them down instantly, but it gets boring after the fifth time. It was way better in GTA IV where each punch seemed like it really hurt, even more the kicks, which in GTA V seem like a little pat.

>wahh GTA V was shit wahhh

>thread asking for opinions
>get assmad when they you
t. sjw

SO U RIKE GTA IV NOW

>thread asking for opinions
>repeat the same shit that's being spewed out for years
>gets called out and appeal to strawman

lol, none is shittier than vice city. vice city stories was decent, but the first one is absolute, perfect, unbriddled shit. only nostalgia about when you where a fresh wee lad with lots of potential makes you think vice city is anything but shit. the atmosphere, music and visuals are cool, granted, and i like them. everything else, shit.

I prefer IV, always have
>driving and ragdoll physics are extremely satisfying
>great atmosphere, pulled off nyc really well
>preferred the story and characters meanwhile couldn't stand any of them in V

Enjoyed V, but IV will always be my favorite

>IV better than SA
This place man I swear