ITT: We talk about how Rainbow Six Siege is the best shooter out right now and one of the best skill based shooters in...

ITT: We talk about how Rainbow Six Siege is the best shooter out right now and one of the best skill based shooters in years

I haven't renewed my ps+, (I can't wait to order pc parts) how are the new ops? I was going to pick the dude with the bow since the chick looked kind of shitty. Is she shitty?

The guy is named Capitao and his crossbow ability is pretty good. Shoots a flaming crossbow round that burns for a good 10 seconds and has an area effect. I also think he can shoot an explosive one. Caveira is the girl and she's a roamers dream. Has the silent step ability which makes her almost completely silent when moving but she can only have out her pistol when she does it, but the pistol is pretty high powered anyway and has a built in silencer. If she injures someone she has the ability run up and interrogate them and reveal their teammates position on the map for like 30 seconds. Overall they're pretty decent

Capitao is a 1 armor 3 speed OP. Carries some big guns. His ability is the crossbow. It has limited ammo and can shoot either an AOE flame dart that burns for ~10 seconds. Or he can shoot a smoke dart that is essentially a smoke grenade.

Caviera is the go-to roamer. She has a shotgun, smg and pistol. Kills with the pistol (while her sneak mode is activated) will DBNO an enemy. This allows her to hold F on them and "interrogate them" which kills them and reveals enemy team's OPs for ~15 seconds.

If you dont have all the operators already I wouldn't spring for BOPE. Caviera is good, but less practical than other roamers. Capitao has slightly higher utility since he brings area denial (something attackers do not have without him).

But I would probably take a Buck or BB over Cap, and a valk over Cav (dlc-wise) Jager (non-dlc-wise)

Game would be the Perfect Game if they fixed the hit reg.

Interesting. I would consider renewing, but I'm not sure how much time I could spend on it with school and all. I don't want to feel obligated to play either since I payed for it. Don't they have another big patch coming? I heard the most recent one was mid season or something.

Did they nerf the c4 yet? It doesn't make sense how that tiny explosion can just destroy someone who's behind a shield. The blast is so small.

>siegecucks

must you shill this game every sale?

But user, OP is right

They lowered the amount operators who get C4 but added impact grenades which I believe two-shot a shield.

how is he right? what is he right about?

I'm pretty new to the game. Are there any must have operators I should go for sooner?
Right now I have Rook, Montagne, Sledge, and Jaeger.
Are there any DLC operators worth grabbing ASAP? I like the idea of Buck but I'm not really sure just how useful having both an AR and shotgun would be.

Impact granades don't down Montange from my experience, but they bring his HP down significantly.

>the best shooter out right now and one of the best skill based shooters in years

how is it the best shooter. what makes it the best shooter

Get Thatcher and Thermite

Its a good game but its still buggy as fuck and its impossible to find a game without retards or leavers.

No must-haves, but if you had to choose between all the DLC operators, I'd advise you to pick up Blackbeard because his ability is kind of a crutch for newer players, it just denies headshots and is good for peaking. It's good.

The team based mechanics, the gunplay, the high skill ceiling and competitiveness of the game

Buck's versatility with AR + Shotgun is mainly used to peek people, or set up kill holes.

Shotgun blows holes in walls and floors. AR to kill.

Its a very deliberate and fun tactical shooter. It takes time to truly master and even then one mistake will kill you instantly. you are pretty annoying.

what about those? is that it? no explaination of the points just vague statements?

>casual.
ye thats why.

Game is good but hitreg is currently beyond fucked, despite this, still fun.

what do you need? a fucking essay?

why do you fags come into every siege thread

Impact grenades to 45 damage. Not sure if they are affected by headshots or shields. I'd assume shields are slightly resistant.

>vague statements
I already explained why I thought the game is good within a reasonable amount of articulation. I'm not writing you an essay justifying my opinion. Fuck off already.

How about if you play the fucking then and see it.

Hivemind my man

You're just going to chimp out and call them shills if they explain anyway

i need explanations not just DUDE ITS FUN LMAO

also there is no GTA5 threads thats why im here

still waiting on those explainations buddy

i wont and have never have

I will never not be smug about Siege's success.

This game is so fucking good. I really have my doubts sometimes. People say they want a teamwork oriented high skill ceiling game with lots of personalisation and no DLC, and here comes Siege and everyone fucking ignores it.

Watch some gameplay or go and check out some reviews you cuck, Thats why they exist.

Ranked is better but you still get at least one leaver per match and one or two players in each team carrying the rest.

>GTA5 threads

You still playing GTA5?, After 1 fucking year of completing the story?

The word fun was used once, everything else in our responses was an actual reason, an aspect of the game recognized as a reason for why we like it that isn't as simple as the stupidly simplified exaggeration you just tried to boil the responses down to. You're going to stay waiting, faggot. Just leave.

Have the fixed all the problems outside of gameplay? Does it still get stuck on smoke loading screen?
Great gameplay but the amount of problems outside of that on release was fucking insane. Also starting the game through Steam to start Uplay to start Siege is really lame. Really questionable design choices. I couldn't call it the best shooter because of them

You don't understand how this hurts my soul, I wish Siege were more popular.

Like I said, you are fucking annoying. But since you are a retard and can't figure things out for yourself let me expand a bit.


>High skill ceiling because of the very lethal weaponry
>The visibility and the movement of characters actually need you to focus if you want to see them

>It requires a team to work together if you want to be 100% efficient

>The guns all have different recoils and patterns making each on feel different and takes time to master.

>5v5 means competitive jerkfest

>also theres a PvE mode called terrorist hunt, go operate with you friends

>Characters are mostly balanced because you die fast anyways.

>Each character has a special utility for fags who like that

>Run and gun is bad idea unless you know what you are doing, even then its very risky.

>lacks the toxic community as CSGO

>you are a fucking faggot. go kill yourself.

>play it

no i simply call it shit and trigger people who bought sharkcards, works everytime

>reason
reason is a tactic used by jews to indoctrinate us ayrans

It's because they want a FREE team oriented high skill ceiling game with lots of personalisation and no DLC.
Most of the people on this board are salty poorfaggots who think NO game is ever worth 60 bucks, not even the 20 year old games they circlejerk so much, and any company that tries to make money are "JOOS" even though they're even more jewish for trying to get everything for free and getting mad when a game won't go down in price despite being good.

needs to redo the ranks system

>Mute still has no ACOG option
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP

You sound like an idiot. Are you an idiot?

>lacks toxic community

stopped reading right there, community is as shit or worse than every other competitive game and CSGO

>R U DUMB

no u

GMG constantly runs out of keys because their keys are typically from key sellers and not authorized sellers. I'm sure the game has sold well, but your evidence for it is shitty.

Most of the problems are fixed but its still buggy for a game released a year ago. I've actually encountered new bugs in the past few weeks like not being able to fire weapons and drones getting stuck in floors.

How do I get better this game? I feel as if I've peaked and I'm shit.

They were running a deal with CoD BO3 at the same price.
Also EVERY key seller was sold out for Siege on release believe it or not.

>community is as shit or worse than every other competitive game and CSGO
Got any proof or examples? Burden of proof is on you.

Bullshit. The Counter Strike community has been shit for years and as a result it's just been festering and rotting ever since, there's a significant amount of new players running around in Siege that there's a friendly enough atmosphere in my experience.

>community is as shit or worse than every other competitive game and CSGO
I'm thinking someone said "gg ez" after you got 0-3'd and you never got over it.

Like I said you dumb fucking dildo, you just came here to shitpost. I made that post for people who potentially want to play. Again you prove to the whole thread that you can't and will not use your brain.

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@353576938
@353577028
@353577041
>teamkillers
>competitive mode
>allah akbaring
> twitch streamers
>jackie chan

proofs right here bro, all of the day

There are a lot of things to be good at. Positioning, map knowledge, team tactics, and of course how fast and accurate you are.
Find out what usually gets you killed and develop the skill that prevents that, it's probably not as a simple as you being too slow.

>Basically admitting to baiting.
Good job, now everyone reading knows you're wrong and anyone with your opinion is also wrong.

did you really just use the @ sign to reply to people? Nigger, leave.

I know you can use renown for the DLC operators but that does take a while. I do appreciate how they did DLC in siege though.

If you really feel you have peaked I would suggest grinding/scrimming against teams that are better than you and watching streams/videos to learn various tricks to maps.

I've been doing the Master Bathroom Blow-out-floor-peek-basement-stair trick since watching Serenity do it with buck in Pro League. Usually gets someone, and a 4v5 can swing the game pretty well.

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>Siegeweenies are this new
made me think?

I remember Siege coming out and every single one of my friends telling me it was irredeemable trash, was finally convinced to buy it by Cred Forums and it's one of the best shooters I've played in ages. It's a shooter where I really feel like decision making is what sets me apart from the rest of the players, without the shooting aspect feeling dumbed down.

Hopefully it continues to grow.

>jackie chan
What are you on about? Shit posting still? and whats up with the @. You forget you are on a mongolian rock picture site? here's your (((you)))

There's going to be a patch this month, but the big one is going to be the Season 4 update in November.

Same here.
I'm glad Siege outlived the Division.
Goes to show that when you do a game up properly it can outlast overhyped and underperforming garbage.
Siege isn't perfect but it is a huge step in the right direction.

Holy fuck man go play a game. Also your bait needs work.

>Burden of proof

and you haven't proved it's any better than CSGO yet

It sounds like your friends are casual trash.

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@353577573
>siege niggers

thanks for the backup senpai

He doesn't have to, you said it was as bad, so provide proof.
Or keep saying dumb shit and have us laugh at you.

no but I did in this post Nice of you to join your friend. I bet both of you combined have a fucking IQ of 70

Is there a real reason you faggots are still in this thread? You're just shitting it up with your faggotry.

Most people fuck up on their positioning. Sitting anywhere near the objective is pointless, instead you should ambush the enemy in an area where they wouldn't expect you and don't have any cover.

Same with attacking, never go for the obvious entrance.

>burden is proof is on you guise :^)

still havent said why it was good and i never said it was bad

are you sure you arent a jew? You are also a faggot. That makes you a double degenerate.
Lets take a nice ride to the work camp shekelstein.

Hey dumb ass the guy you're dicksucking said it was as bad as CS:GO, just because you're not him doesn't mean you don't support his claim by saying you agree with him.

>personal attackts instead of why the game is good

the game is bad isnt it siegebabies?

nigger did you just...

>tfw people like jackfrags and lirik are regularly playing it now

Oh shit guys it's popular now I better start making videos about it

please help us bump the thread babyboy

Oh, so you're flaming?
Thanks for admitting it.
Game is alive and good and you're crying salty tears because you'r shit at it.

@353578360
all of the day bro

I love how faggots like this sometimes pretend like they're owed enough respect that people will debate with them intelligently.

I'm gonna resort to personal attacks, not because I don't have points that make you look like your on the spectrum, but because I don't fucking care enough to try to convince you of anything. Please kill yourself.

I'm pretty interested in this game.
So, what do you recommend?
Starter pack or Full game?

stop replying to him

@353578723

the game is still shit senpai get better taste

Starter pack won't put you at a disadvantage, but the grind for new operators isn't an easy one. With that in mind, do what you think is best.

Why does every Siege thread have a shitposter?

I mean not like a handful of people attacking the game or criticising, just always one single autistic shitposter?

If you don't play the SEALs exclusively, get the fuck off my board!

It's one guy, same posting style every time

It's sad that the few shitposters have as big of an affect on the thread as they do.
So anons, what changes to the game would you make if you could?

Ubisoft

I'll think about it.
Thanks, user.

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>wahh muh shitposter
STILL deflecting, no one has had a single explaing point that isnt vague yet

A lot more maps. I don't know much about game dev but how long does it realistically take to make a map??

Why do you keep making the same thread saying the same statement?

You are the Witcher 3 shitposter and I claim my £5.

What negative effects do you think were a result of Ubisoft? Server issues are the only thing I could really pin on them, I haven't had issues beyond that.

Obviously map design in every game is important, but with siege it honestly is one of the most important aspects. Every line of sight, ceiling hatch, destructible wall, camera location and objectives is important. Trying to balance everything to make sure there isn't a clear favor for a certain team is extremely hard.

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>witcher

never played it and fuck off i dont owe you anyting untill monday because im skint

He was here since release, I remember BTFOing him every single thread on release.
And then we had the crystal ball predictions.
>"I-it'll be dead in 1 month!"
>"T-two months!"
>"T-three!"
>"THE GAME IS FUCKING GARBAGE HERE'S STEAM NUMBERS AGAIN!!!"
It's hilarious desu, he'll be forever anally ravaged because he got proven wrong.

Just wanted to let everyone know that I play this game and I hack.
Thank you.

I'd imagine it shouldn't take longer than a month or two, but given how the structure and design of the map is important to Siege, maybe it takes a little longer.

Siege is the game that should have died in a month by all logic. Yet it stays steady and somehow manages to get more people over time.

>Should have died in a month by all logic
What makes you say that user

It's almost as though they updated the game regularly and the DLC is free if you actually play the game, and it's almost as though the game is actually fun and good.

go fuck yourself you're worse then a tripfag fucking pass user

>another shitposter
not all heroes wear capes

Is the network/servers still trash?

The launch issues were pretty atrocious.

Must have been at least two months where you would get disconnected constantly and spent 20 minutes before every match taking it in turns with your friends to open and shut uplay until it eventually let you all be in a squad

No promotion, bad servers, connection issues out the ass, janky hit boxes, only three game modes, massive downgrade from E3 as per usual.

I love playing the game, but man it had some serious problems at launch.

not giving the operators cataracts.

Not sure what state the game is in now but it was pretty shit for a good while. The netcode was dreadful and peakers advantage lead to bullshit kills happening all the time. In a game as tactical as this you need perfect netcode and tickrate otherwise it completely ruins the whole thing.

Also the community was full of some real autists who raged so damn hard. Not talking about "gg ez" talk but people full on sperging out.

Truth be told, I picked it up a little late so I never had enormous issues, just the occasional "Cannot connect to squad".
It has a small but steady fanbase, I'm glad they persevered through that bullshit, I probably wouldn't have.

I'd hate to be a new player.

You are pretty vague with how fucking smart you are. You wont even tell us how smart mommy thinks you are. last time I'm responding, put this in your (you) jar so that mommy can go and buy you food you wanted.

Casual mode has a nice mix of shitters.

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>projecting

I used to hate this game since I played it in beta but they turned it around and made it into a fantastic game. But fuck me, it's netcode is fucking awful. Everything about the netcode and lag smoothening is horse shit and is nothing but frustration.

actually

as long as one dude doesnt have 300 or 200+ ping the game should be fine.

>garbage
its just full of furry porn tho

pol is much better place to send him because he misgenered my mother

That's everyone though. People queue different continent servers for advantages, or use netlimiter for that matter just like in planetside 2

I have that game in my inventory if any of you want to trade for it.

>People say they want a teamwork oriented high skill ceiling game

Most people who say this are just saying it to fit in. When these high skill ceiling games come out, no matter the type, people rage quit in droves. They are too frustrating for most people and high skill ceilings mean 90% of the population always gets shit on.

Worst part about it is that gap between players.
If you shoot outside or don't stand in the objective they claim hacks and leave.

CS can handle those shitters because of its popularity but I'm afraid it'll stop Siege from growing.

Hey, Siege has been growing since release for almost a year now.
Those shitters may come and go but the developers say concurrent playerbase is higher than release now; the only thing Siege needs going for it is good hitreg and a not god awful esport scene plus some big twitch streamers to become as big as CS.
I honestly have no idea why the face of Siege is Xbox ESL matches; the console versions of this game and console "pros" are so horrendously bad it might as well be a different game all together.

>Skill based shooter
More like hide and seek based shooter.

Ubisoft fucked it up enough for it not to get popular so I can see why the majority steered clear

>Normal retail price
>FPS for consoles/PC
>R6 fans are so muddled up by now they all want different things from it
>Multiplayer only with ten maps on release
>Game looks like it's a F2P cash shop game from the outside
>You even have to grind for the little content there was
>Spend budget on CGI cutscenes which have nothing to do with the game
>Delay all updates to it
>Terrible launch with a bunch of other AAA titles

It's like they still ubifucked it up but just didn't touch the gameplay.
I think that's why it's slowly growing because people are forgetting all that bullshit now that they see the cheaper price tag.

This is probably the most accurate depiction of how the game succeeded. Feels like I accepted their mediocrity now :)

Ubisoft always sides with the manufacturer that isn't in front. Last gen they did all their deals with Sony, this gen they've been doing all their deals with Microsoft. Less competition and probably more incentive from the manufacturer.

This. Holy shit this pisses me off so much. It's almost impossible to watch entrances on the daylight versions of the maps. Literally can't see shit.

Thatcher is next to fucking useless now since no one really directly defend or place their gadgets on the objective room anymore.

The meta has changed, gramps.

Hows bout you actually play the game?

I think they delayed launch of some content is actually helping because at least all players can use the new maps added, every time a new content patch is added it brings some old players back and some new players too which then snowballs the popularity a bit more.

Casual is hilarious now, you see so much people doing weird shit and just rage quitting once they get completely shat out by the enemy team

I just hate how it's 1 batch every 3 months and that they haven't confirmed season 2.

He's great for allowing thermite to breach rooms. On PC I see reenforced walls with either mute or bandit protecting them and a thatcher is great for them. Since kapkan isn't too popular for traps right now he doesn't have much utility as a counter to him but he still has uses and some decent guns to use too.

>1 batch every 3 months
What more do you want?

> Season 2
Got some bad news for you user...

That may only happen in Casual because thatcher is still pretty useful in Ranked, even with Twitch going around

Did they say anything at all about that?

>I just hate how it's 1 batch every 3 months
Are you seriously complaining about free dlc being released every 3 months?

Also, they never said they were going to do a season 2. If they do do one then that is even better but they never said they would so I don't know why you are shitting on them for it.

Speaking of ubisoft how is the division now? Still shit or did they at least try to fix it? I ask this because I find the setting interesting and its on sale right now

I don't play it but people say it's still shit

Shit still. They more than likely wont fix it; the DLC is more of the same with little variety outside of DUDE RANDOM ROOM PLACEMENT with only like 5 guns added and insane stat inflation. Even in vanilla game people went from doing 1k damage at 30 to 50k

The Beta put me off so much. I would consider playing it only if I got it for free. besides Ubisoft has been throwing out free games for couple of months now on every months 15th.

Considering how much every new operator affects the meta that actually seems about right. New operators can have a huge effect on how every other operator is valued.

Thermite and Ash are still top picks as attackers.

And if defenders don't have Bandit/Mute and Rook they are just shooting themselves in the foot.

I don't know how games like csgo are taking so seriously when RNG bullet hits are involved.

Siege shits on it

It's getting better
Lucky I didn't buy it at launch
Just finished it two days ago

>Rook
Well, if your opponents are good and go for headshots, his use is questionable

Believe it or not a 100% headshot ratio is actually physically impossible so anticipating everyone headshotting you is a positioning error.

Thermite is definitely a top tier operator, but gets countered HARD by mute and bandit. Ash has a really good ability but I also wouldn't call it something ridiculously unbalanced since she can't penetrate a reenforced wall.

He might be able to make a player win an otherwise even firefight, but the armour isn't OP. His usefulness is mostly because his ability is a passive buff to the whole team which will always come in handy compared to some more situational abilities.

At the current moment very few teams pick counter to Thermite. Ash is top pick because she is fast, with hard hitting fast assault rifle and the special just causes a lot of shit storm.

There's another secondary advantage to Mute in that he can prevent the enemy drones from spotting your team and the objective. That information can actually make or break the fight. Not knowing where the objective is can buy your team an extra 30 seconds to prepare and if the enemy don't know you have a frost (for example) then they're ever so slightly likely to fall for her traps.

>but gets countered HARD by mute and bandit
and they get countered HARD by thatcher

>Not knowing where the objective is
They will know the objective is wherever you put up the jammers.

Exactly and no one wants to play Mute any more.

And thus the cycle of reliance and teamwork is formed.

I bought the game a bit ago when it was on sale but don't really want to play it before I upgrade my computer.

I am a little intimidated by the game, though. Obviously CSGO is known for an absolute trash community but at least with that I had friends to fuck around in the game with.

I don't think too many of my friends really want to try Siege, so I might end up going at it alone, which spooks me pretty hard. It has a lot of systems and seems really deep (which is good) but that can also lead to people being horrid perfectionists when it comes to their expectations on other players.

Is this the case with Siege? I have a mic and don't mind using it but holy fuck does playing 5v5 games with randoms bring up terrible memories.

also what operator do i unlock first

>I have a mic and don't mind using it
You should find a group of people to play with pretty soon if you do. Even this far into the game's life cycle randos send me friend requests after we play a good game together. From there on you can invite them when they're online or ask them if they have a discord server or whatever.

More often than not games go fairly well.

There's the occasional angry child who blames his entire team is they have a ba round (it can happen that you just get unlucky).

As a new player I'd recommend you play the single player situations as they will get you used to all of the main things to be aware of in the game and earn you enough points for a few operators of your own.

Generally just try to minimise the amount of body you show and remember that information is key.

If you know where they are after you die, say it.
Use drones to scout ahead if you're nervous.

SHIT WHAT WAS THAT MOVIE'S NAME ?

>I'd assume shields are slightly resistant.
probably not because the shields don't lower damage from kapkan traps either

why would you want acog with how slow it is to ADS and when most encounters are close

>tfw when 0.69KD
i thought was good

occasionally I will MVP and do some cool plays I wish i recorded but otherwise im consistently below average

>can buy the starter edition now
>or save my neetbux for payday 2 sale next week
I don't know what to do