Are monks any good in both NWN games?

Are monks any good in both NWN games?

They're alright, not exactly gamebreaking in either game but still decent and fun to play.

They aren't as shit as they should be given it's a 3.x game.

>Rangle together a bunch of people to play the campaign multiplayer with
>Use the PRC expansion pack for more class options
>Lizardman buddy picks Warlock, playing a Paladin.
>Get to the moment in the keep where Fenthick is crying.
>Warlock casts spell that blows off Fenthick's clothes, leaving them laughing.

Monk is not bad in hordes of the underdark from memory as high wisdom gives good role play options

More importantly, why do monks exist? Who keeps bringing weeb shit into FR? LotFR is there for a reason.

This. Having actual cost-effective 'weapons' for Monks in the form of gloves in both and quarterstaves in NWN2 do a lot to help and so does both games having fairly low monster AC(exception: final boss of Storm of Zehir, which is horrible for even an optimized Fighter to deal with).

Because Gygax and co. thought it would be a neat addition to the game.

who the fuck cares about FR anyways
its by far one of the worst fantasy settings every created

Having no experience with the setting other than the BG games, what exactly is so bad about it?

every class is "any" good.
They are not supremely OP, if that is your question.

Monks are as broken as they were always meant to be in epic levels in NWN 1

They are the most popular setting, that is enough to elicit such claims.
While popularity does not equal quality, it almost always generates disdain for just that.

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Most broken class in the game

Moves fast, attacks fast, dodges everything and is basically immune to all magic

>3/4 BAB

Why is D&D so focused on buffs? There's hardly any reason ever to not be cleric or druid, because they can do almost everything better than almost everyone else.

>implying it matters when you hit the attack/round cap

also being able to get haste robes in act 2-3 is pretty fucking groovy

Mostly that the canon is being written by 3rd rate wannabe writers. Greenwood might have had some good inspiration while thinking up the realm, but his books, which then became canon, are the worst kind of juvenile trash. Don't get me started on the likes of Salvatore.

This isn't just a FR problem by the way. The greatest P&P RP setting here in Germany suffered from the very same problems. They wrote world history in novels by a team of writers that were less then talented.

Add 4 levels of full BAB before you hit level 20 and it means jackshit.

Monk's problem is accuracy, not a lack of attacks.

>Why is D&D so focused on buffs?
If I'm not mistaken, that's more of a 3.X thing than a D&D thing.

>There's hardly any reason ever to not be cleric or druid, because they can do almost everything better than almost everyone else.
Depends on the system. In 3.X I'd argue that's only true if you're in a party of 1. Otherwise you're better off buffing martials and debuffing enemies as the Cleric or Druid. In 5th the class balance is a lot better, so they can only do magic better than the martials.

Monk/druid/shifter is best build

fact.

>Otherwise you're better off buffing martials
Objectively false, the vast majority of Cleric/Druid buffs worth a shit are Personal(Divine Power, Righteous Might, Bite of the Werebear) or can't target humanoids(Animal Growth). You have to grab specific domains to grab good buffs.

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>Social multiplayer sex
the hell

just pay a hooker ffs

They're surprisingly good in NWN2

3 free attacks per round with Circle Kick because it's glitched the fuck out, and the move speed bonus is really, really nice in general

Sinfar is just one fucking deviant hellhole with nothing else going for it.

It's like second life but with less interactive dongs.

Yeah, no. Tried out this server once some time ago, missed out on the "sex" bit. Turns out the place is full of edgy animu weebshit retards and furry degenerates

No monk is trash


NWN1 Class Tier List

>God Tier:
Druid

>Top Tier:
Wizard, Sorcerer, Cleric, Shifter

>High Tier:
Champion of Torm, Black Guard, Bard, Weapon Master

>Mid Tier:
Paladin, Harper Scout, Fighter, Red Dragon Disciple, Dwarven Defender

>Low Tier:
Monk, Ranger, Rogue, Pale Master, Arcane Archer, Shadow Dancer

>Trash Tier
Barbarian, Assassin, Purple Dragon Knight

Monks are fun to watch.
They punch all day, dodge all night and resist spells in between.

No, no its not.

3.x thing, later editions (4th and 5th) cut down on buffs because tracking 10,000 flavors of +1 sucks.

>Summon Balor via Gate
>Forgets about protection/circle agaist evil

Everytime

what is actually the most overpowered class in the original neverwinter nights?

Druid

PLEASE
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE SOMEONE GIVE ME A GOOD PALE MASTER BUILD

What about Cleric?

i've never played druid because the class fantasy just never appealed to me

whats so great about them in nwn?

Aside from that one guy with his dragon druid/shifter

40 wizard/ 0 pale master

Don't you fucking meme me
I want my Skeleton hand

Cleric is also very strong, but not as abuseable or broken as Druid.

Very powerful casters, highest spell DC in the game and they get infinite spells per day thanks to a bug

Blackguard/Pale Master 10/Bard
Charisma as primary stat

You take pale master post-20 to minimise BAB losses.
Put yourself in a full plate with tower shield
Congrats, you are the tankiest shitter ever.

Been there. Not bad I guess. Seems to be more of an rp server than anything else.