Two of my closest Overwatch buddies are now playing this F2P shit most nights

>two of my closest Overwatch buddies are now playing this F2P shit most nights
What the fuck, how can people have such shit taste?

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Bomb King is fun, peasant.

They gotta play it while it lasts- knowing HiRez, servers will be closed by Q3 2017.

Does anyone actually play Tribes Ascend or you're just spouting meme crap like a sheep?

Tried it back in 2014, servers are mostly empty with a couple of autists surfing around spawn camping any new players that joined until they quit and complain about the game dying

>Not playing Edgy Revolver Ocelot

The game is actually really fun and does some things right like:

>Not needing a lucio on every team to get to the objective aine everyone has horsea
>attack and defense are decided during the match for whoever gets the point first
>Card system allows some variety for every character, and you can have multiple cards set ups

It is a good game, especially because it is free

>play Overwatch
>complains about shit taste

people USED to play tribes ascend, until HiRez released some very questionable patches and then let the game die

they've been trying to revive it lately but I'm not sure how that's been going

this game is great because playing it for 30 minutes made me buy overwatch and I'm having a lot of fun

but you get locked into heroes for a full round

>game is not popular anymore
>game's profit is in the minus
>dev closes it since it's like a bleeding wound
>"BOYCOTT JEWREZ THEY CLOSED A GAME THAT NOBODY PLAYS ANYMORE MUH NOSTALGIA"

Tribes Ascend was one of the most played F2P games on release until Hi-Rez fucked it with P2W items and hitscan weaponry everywhere with massive hitboxes + lowering the speed in a fucking game where you're MEANT to be going fast.

You got it backwards, user.

>hirez mismanages tribes
>constant server crashes, severe bugs, releases p2w weapons
>people leave en masse
>hirez then stops supporting tribes

I played it in its prime, it was ok.
Then they went full retard, removed a fully finished map they worked on because of forum trolls like children, added new weapons it was piss easy to midair with, scrambled up all projectile travel times, hindered the most common way for cappers to go fast, nerfed snipers to uselessness, and who knows what after then.
I never played global agenda, but people seem to recollect things going much the same way.
I expect nothing less from their endeavors.

>can customize character skills to cater to your playstyle
>maps aren't just chokepoints
>ultimates aren't always match deciders

I can see why some people would prefer it. I like both so I play both though.

They were playing overwatch to begin with, that should have been the obvious sign they had shit taste.

the same way you are playing overshit

on a computer?

in the nude?

Why isn't every character a boobs?

play a game with no content that costs 60 bones

or

play a game with paywalled content for free

Yeah okay
Cant tell if youre ironically shilling

They just killed it again a few days ago. Nobody came back.

unironically stating a fact
I played overwatch during the beta but didn't feel like paying for it. when I heard about a free overwatch clone I decided to try it out. when I noticed there is no tracer I bought overwatch

Overwatch gets stale, if you're not doing comp then it's the same shit over and over. Playing Paladins until more content comes out for OW isn't a bad idea.

So? Thats why you need to payattention into the teams coposition. Even if you somehow fuck uo yoi can still adjust your hero to fight the other team by buying upgrades during battle

SFM WHEN???

comp is the most stale part of the game, you need to run the holy meta as designed by God himself otherwise people will lose their fucking minds

hi-rez isn't about to commission it like blizzard, so likely never

>Ow $40
>Woahhhh very nice based blizz
>Paladin free
>Shitty Ow clone

Boobies.

But OW has arse, the superior part of the female.

Fix SEA servers.

>then let the game die
> trying to revive it lately
Pick one. Did they let the game die, or does no one want to play it?

>F2P
>Clone game trying to jump in the bandwaggon

No thanks, enjoy Paladins for the month or two that it will last

Unlike Tribes, Paladins and Smite are actually profitable

steamcharts.com/app/17080
Look at these impressive numbers guys.

It's been in Beta since last year, user.

>only 3k
>buthurt tribesfags still saying "one of the most famous F2P game"

And people had to get bored of OW before this started becoming popular, what makes you think the same won't happen with Paladins? Maybe even faster now that people already got tired of OW?

Besides it is a F2P game, it is doomed to have a short lifespan

Alright.

>lying on the internet
Why do Paladinfags need to validate themselves anyways?

This
Until paladins gets some polish though, the game is pretty bad with hitboxes and UI bugs
But I still play this more then overwatch, overwatch has become a niche game I play to meet new players with older friends, then we play other games

>no tracer
Sign me up. She is useless and ugly anyways.

The same reason OWfags needed to validate themselves when it was in beta

shill spotted

Tribes: Ascend was profitable. HiRez have released statements saying this previously.

They dropped it because the CEO of HiRez didn't like Tribes or FPS games and wanted all the manpower at the company working on SMITE because he loves MOBAs.

>hi-rez isn't about to commission it like blizzard, so likely never
Games top of steam charts atm, give it a few weeks. Models just need a port

Blizz are trickling in content at too slow a pace. Sombra, new maps and gamemodes need to happen a bit quicker if they want to keep the playerbase.

don't talk to me or my waifu ever again

...

>niche
12 year old boys bodys are not my bag man.

Ying+Kinessa>any overwatch girl

this, they must know that the playerbase has dropped off massively. None of my online buds play it anymore for example...

Holy fucking crap, that's awful.

>you lived to see the day where Blizzdrones got put on suiciad watch by a F2P clone of an already shitty game

Based fucking Hirez saving videogames again

Paladins lore fucking when. It's kinda interesting.

>The whole game takes place in a land called Crosswind Hold, filled with dangers and crystals.

>Said crystals are used as both currency (the paid content) and as power sources. Most weapons in game are powered by the crystals.

>Cassie stole her dad's bow for fun and profit

>Fernando is on some Don Quixote style quest for fame

>Evie has the soul of an ice demon in her after she performed an "unholy ritual" and is technically old as shit by now

>Pip stole his equipment from an order of alchemists and now works as a mercenary

>Skye used to to be part of the same mystical order as Ying until she broke every single vow she made

>Ruckus picked up a mystical sword imbued with an elf's soul and smelted the metal into his mech, and now the soul is also his suit's AI

>Androxus killed a god through some unknown reason and is cursed for it

its fREEEEE and all my poorfag friends with toasters can play it
though I like the 5v5 more than 6v6. its not a clone, not sure how to explain it properly because im exhausted as fuck. but this will not stop me from buying overwatch to my buddies on black friday

>being so much of a contrarian that you support a unoriginal shitty clone game of another shitty unoriginal game

more like people will jump on any fucking bandwaggon they are shown

shhh
dont ruin its illusion, everyone knows this game is going to explode into a pile of garbage in a couple of months unless hirez finally does something good for once

so Overwatch is a clone of TF2 and Paladins is a clone of Overwatch
how deeper can we go?
Did china make a Paladin rip-off yet?

>two of my closest Team Forterss 2 buddies are now playing this P2P shit most nights
What the fuck, how can people have such shit taste?

you're a fucking moron and ill tell you why
HR took all active development teams from Tribes and threw them into SMITE, and just let T:A free fall for better or for worse
Now that SMITE has its own active environment and an overly ample staff, they finally let the devs go back to T:A, but, too little too late
The last update T:A received was called "Parting Gifts", so you know what's going to happen next

>Ults are way better in paladins than OW
How did a clone do this way better?

Things that never happened.

I played it for couple of hours and bought Overwatch. Pretty happy with my decision.

Because not enough shit is being added to Overwatch

it is still a superior game but it feels stale. It's almost the exact same game it was 4 months ago. Honestly they could add a bullshit skin that you actually have to grind for months to get and I would be playing it right now.

No, China decided it was better to rip off Overwatch.
kotaku.com/watch-the-chinese-overwatch-rip-off-in-action-1782079892

>overtime can last twice as long as the actual match time frame on payload
>KotH being a fucking thing in ranked
>Losing 50-60 points per loss, not including streak, yet only gaining 20-30 per win, not including streak
>Genji and Tracer can still i-frame direct damage
>Hanzo can still wall clip shots
>Ana can ult 20 seconds out the door
It's pretty easy to leave trash behind user

I tried it, but it's just a clunky Overwatch clone with worse graphics, worse character design and even less content.
Also, special mention to mounts, that shit is fucking awful, the controls feel much worse than your average Ubisoft game.

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>Paladins thread
>needs to mention Overwatch because otherwise the thread would die with 10 replies
>even then it has gotten only 70 replies in 3 hours

Gotta admire the refusal to be forgotten though, even with a slower than average general.

it's a shitty clone regardless of the price

Peak steam numbers were like 3k concurrent, and after 6 months it never went over 1k again. Nobody played fucking tribes.

Ded game

No, just dead discussion despite how hard they tried becoming Overwatch.

It truly is the carbon copy of overwatch

jesus and i thought OW had terrible hitscan

Their community manager is ridiculously attractive youtube.com/watch?v=a4ivN2oTFKo

Its the lack of waifus and porn, combined with the fact it succeeded. If it flopped there would be threads always filled to the limit and memes galore, like blunderborne. Nobody cares a game did ok, theres ffxv threads that need shitposting in.

>linking to kotaku
you have to go back

Because Hi-Rez are fucking GODS at creating a good fun base game that hooks you in and keeps you playing. The problem is is that they without a doubt ALWAYS destroy the games they make. Its slow and insidious but in a years time the game you loved will be a smoldering pile of shit.

The test range has much larger hitboxes than normal. Grovers axe and cassies arrows are the main offenders in actual gameplay.

are you fucking serious

Probably because despite it's lack of polish and other issues, it's actually a fun game unlike Overwatch which is a polished piece of shit.

That's not a hitscan weapon. Grover's axes and Cassie's arrows are projectiles with massive hitboxes. Hitboxes are actually accurate to character heights, but are wide. It's just that Grover throws fucking trucks at people.

PLEASE tell me there's good porn of her

It exists. Quantity < quality.

and hearing those words, i embark on my journey

h-how deep does the rabbit hole go?

I assume there was there a non-steam way to play?
>3k peak players

That's how it should be, overwatch is already spoiling you if you think that should be a must

All the way back to '74

>Paying $40 for a game with free to play features instead to play it's free to play counter part
KeK

More evidence that Cred Forums are prominently 12 year olds.

> it's actually a fun game
No, not at all.
It's a less polished Overwatch with even less content.
3 maps and one gamemode, this started getting tiring the first day.

>two of my closest hunting buddies are now playing this Nerd shit most nights

Paywalls are good because they reduce the amount of poorshits, furshits, ruskies and brazilians.

I never touched Paladins after getting matched all the time with 400 ping guys.

Theres 10 maps and 2 modes, last patch was 9 maps and 1 mode.

It is much less polished than Overwatch, anyone can attest to that. But it's also a lot more enjoyable to actually play. I don't give a shit about "polish" at the end of the day, I care about having a fun game and Blizzard does not deliver at that. Paladins has more enjoyable and varied characters that actually feel rewarding to get a hold of. The game is much faster paced, the maps are much more open and allow for greater freedom of movement and overall more dynamic gameplay than Overwatch whose maps are mostly centered around chokepoints with few flank routes, characters that are pretty sterile and often overlap mechanically, and a good number of characters that flat out don't do anything. Playing Torbjorn then playing Barik is like going from a can of spam to a fucking steak.

Paladins need to fix their fucking animations and everything else posted here. Characters give me the same floaty feeling while walking as if I was playing smite. I hated the movement in smite

>Until paladins gets some polish though, the game is pretty bad with hitboxes and UI bugs

Seriously mate, it's still in beta. What do you expect?

>Paladins has more enjoyable and varied characters that actually feel rewarding to get a hold of
Absolutely false.
Even the movement system feels really bad.

This game game actually made me appreciate Overwatch more.
Paladins is free for a reason.

>Barik
>implying he's not one of the most useless ones

You are so full of shit.
It's amazing seeing all the claims here, getting into the game and seeing how half assed everything is, not to mention how people unironically praised mounts, when the controls are straight up pure trash.

>the maps are much more open and allow for greater freedom of movement and overall more dynamic gameplay
The maps being open means absolutely nothing, idiot.
There's no chokepoints, the problem with Paladins is that, for some reason, everyone stays behind while they let the tank do absolutely everything, forming chokepoints, not due to map design, but due to retardation.
Everyone is too afraid of dying.

>muh $40 SFM expansion pack

What's the point? Paying for the game won't save you from retards, no matter the nationality

No, it saves you from poorshits, in Overwatch I never have to deal with idiots packed to the brim with ping.
In Paladins everyone gets a pass, and that means getting the poorfags playing on Wifi on their mom's laptops.

Who isn't afraid of dying, user

Paladins is free because Hi Rez has been using the free to play model for their games for years and it works for them. The movement is admittedly awkward with horses, partially because horse strafing speed is really low and the game has some bugs to be ironed out but the fact that EVERY character has movement options instead of restricting it to a fraction of the cast means that fighting and getting around with the characters feel pretty good, as opposed to having the Overwatch situation where half of the roster is fucking useless in part because of them basically being stationary targets.

I actually don't care for mounts that much.
>There's no chokepoints, the problem with Paladins is that, for some reason, everyone stays behind while they let the tank do absolutely everything, forming chokepoints, not due to map design, but due to retardation.
That's a problem with the players, not the game itself. Barik is also one of the stronger characters.

The map design is fucking awful, all the maps are open yes, but they are also empty as fuck.
It's the same problem MGSV had.
The maps are big, but there's no reason to have them like that.

>Don't have to deal with poorshits
>Have to deal with shitters instead
there is no escape

I think the Steam version came a year or so after the original client version.

>>Paladins has more enjoyable and varied characters that actually feel rewarding to get a hold of
>Absolutely false.
>Even the movement system feels really bad.
>opinions

>>Barik
>>implying he's not one of the most useless ones
but he said it's another thing not that he's more efficient

>Have to deal with shitters instead
Then stick to competitive.

Except that's their track record
>global agenda
>tribes:ascend
>soon to be SMITE
It's clear that Hi-rez just makes a game that jumps on the latest multiplayer game trend and then doesn't give a shit when it dies or loses popularity, they'll just make another game that follows another trend.
Tribes was great and was one of the most played FPS on the time back in 2012 without steam but ruined it with
>infiltrator gets a hitscan pulse rifle that one shots anything and has a retarded hitbox
>raider gets a plasma rifle that shoots trains out instead of bullets
>speed capping, can't go fast anymore

Oh remember that Maze War style game where you were in mechs? Like real early Windows era stuff.

>Barik is also one of the stronger characters.
So, the praise here is because their not-Torb is one of the strongest characters, while he's not used in Overwatch?
Does that mean Lucio and Zarya are good characters?

Smite shows no signs of slowing down m8

Hi-Rez games don't have slow deaths.
They release a patch that kills them.

Hope it dies, all MOBAs are cancer.

That's not hitscan idiot. It's a projectile. Actually the projectile hitboxes for the characters seem to be smaller than the ones used for hitscan and actually would be reasonable if the projectiles didn't have huge as fuck hitboxes too.

Grover has I think the biggest weapons I've ever seen in an FPS.

>Besides it is a F2P game, it is doomed to have a short lifespan

To be fair this is the closest thing we have to an overwatch thread right now

Grover's a big tree

>Playing Torbjorn then playing Barik is like going from a can of spam to a fucking steak.
The fuck are you talking about, the gameplay of Paladins feels floaty as fuck.
It's like going from Doom to Battlefield 4.

Oh and even better updates were
>all the guns were no longer available from the get go and you had to either buy them through ingame currency or pay hi-rez money when they went on the record and said that the only things that required real money were skins
>no skins ever came out during the high-times of its activity
>the pathfinder's air grenade will not forcefully drop the enemy pathfinders flag when thrown
>w-w-w-we'll be competitive soon guys
>no ranked
>only 1 competitive event hosted that no one watched
>everyone watched the shazbowl though
That's because F2P MOBAs are still in full swing despite what anyone says about them.
DOTA is still very active across the world and that goes for League as well.
SMITE is the dark horse in the MOBA series but it will never get as much publicity that DOTA and LOL gets.

Barik is decent because he has options beyond is garbage ass turret. He's actually fairly versatile and doesn't have all of his power frontloaded into his turrets. He can just throw them down, up to two and can more reliably force people to divide their attention in fights, as well as being able to set up shields to cover himself and allies and having a get out of jail card that can be speced to make him even tankier when he needs it. He can spec his turrets to be more durable and heal him as well. Barik actually has the tools to hold an objective. Torbjorn is just a liability. He gets a turret that he has to spend time setting up because we all know that it's a nuisance at best when it's not leveled, he can only set up one at a time, he's squishy as fuck without armor and has a huge headshot hitbox too, and is immobile.

I'm saying that Torbjorn is fucking useless and Barik can actually get shit done in comparison.

But it is true, for every single F2P multiplayer game that lasts more than a year, i'm sure there are 150 that didn't

>I'm saying that Torbjorn is fucking useless and Barik can actually get shit done in comparison.
>implying Torb's chain isn't OP as fuck

More than once i've seen it go through fucking walls.

>Being an uncivilized savage

>Torb's chain
I don't remember him having a chain, are you talking about roadhog?

I can/can't wait for the backpedaling Cliffy B twitter screencaps when Lawbreakers is DOA.

>torb
>useless
Yeah, maybe on attack but on defense he's pretty good if you can place your turrets in the right place and not rely on your turret more than you rely on torb's gun and try and get as many molten core ults as possible and spam armor packs. If you can keep your turret alive and not be a shitter, torb is great.

Fuck, yes sorry, I've always confused both names.

I played until level 5. I'll try with non AI opponents later. But it feel like a spam fest compared to Overwatch.

>F2P games are destined for a short lifespan
>Oh, ok, well it's just unlikely

try not to immediately backpedal

It's not a clone though. It was announced like 2 years ago. It was playable before Overwatch. They just added characters that look like overwatch characters.

You don't even play Overwatch get the fuck outta here.

I played a shitload of Torb. He's useless. Tobjorn and most defense heroes in general are garbage because Offense heroes do their job but better by virtue of simply being able to run around killing shit. Tanks do it better by being resilient and having tools to protect both themselves and team mates and being threatening in other ways like Winston or Roadhog.

For yew.

Attack Torb is pretty great. Nobody expect a turret, and it punish zoning pretty well.

Compared to Barik yes Torb is garbage. There's a reason he has a zero pick rate in comp. Don't defend fundamentally broken characters that need to be reworked and or buffed or blizzard will NEVER fix them.

>playing offense heros on defense
>throw 4 tanks in a game that'll fix it
you've never played a ranked OW game have you

>a friend of mine plays overwatch, can't aim shit
"this game sucks"
>tries paladins and gets kills because of shitty hitboxes
"what a game, 10/10"

>people USED to play tribes ascend

why does people keep thinking it was popular at some time, it never was, it was even a bigger blunder than battleborn

>why does people keep thinking it was popular at some time
Because it came to steam in after it was dead, retard.

Having a small constant player base is great. All you need for Tribe is like 30 person playing all the time.

>Pick Androxus
>Expect Reaper
>Got McTracer instead

At least his ult is sufficiently "Die! Die! Die!" esque

>lacking reading comprehension
F2P games are designed to have a short lifespan user, wether you agree with me or not.

They have shit on sale as soon as the game launches, most of the time is cosmetic because they don't want to fall into the P2W trap

There is allways that odd case where the game succeeds (Kind of how LoL got popular and successful despite being F2P)

I like Paladins because it keeps about 60K shitters out of Overwatch.

Interestingly enough i'm not huge on any of the flanking characters.

Yes I have and it was fucking garbage because
1 - It's just a stack fest
2 - COIN FLIPS. Yes I know coin flips were done away with but it put me off of comp entirely. Well that and the game being shit.

And yes, Offense heroes do get played on Defense quite often because they're generally better at removing threats than their Defense counterparts. Reaper and McCree in particular are actually pretty damn good on Defense and see more use on Defense than Offense.

>Pick Androxus
>Expect Reaper
>Get a flying McCree with a rocket launcher arm.

It came out in april and was ded by july?

Don't worry. More and more people are dropping overwatch for the time being until the next content update blizzard is adamant on keeping us in the dark about for whatever fucking reason.

You know it wasn't released on steam until really late right? It was what funded all these shitty rip offs games hi-rez has been doing since then.

At least you actually have to aim Andro's ult

>steam charts
>for a game that walked in the door after it blew its load
I swear to christ Cred Forums posters just get dumber and dumber every fucking day

Reaper is probably one of the best payload pushers. Great self sustain.

>Yes I have and it was fucking garbage because
1 - It's just a stack fest
2 - COIN FLIPS. Yes I know coin flips were done away with but it put me off of comp entirely. Well that and the game being shit.
Sounds like you never made it past anything other than 1000/bronze rankings.

I just tried this shit game because of Cred Forums shilling,
Played 3 games never dying, feel like I'm bulling people. Something feels off, Notice I'm playing against bots. Wtf ?

>wtf

good one user

LLOL NO U DONT U IDORT

First 5 games are against botz :^)
Don't worry though, real players are about the same skill levels haha XD

It only lowers the skill ceiling.

>F2P games are doomed to have a short lifespan
>well most are
>F2P games are designed to have a short lifespan
>well, except for stuff like LoL

try shifting those goalposts harder
hint: if you can't even type a full post without backpedaling, you need to stop painting with broad strokes

>first 5 games
more like games until level 5

Or you can pick a meme character like Mei and put in half the effort while obtaining twice the results.

Reaper is just solid period. I actually like him. He's probably the most consistently solid, yet balanced character in the game.

No I haven't. I played like 4 games and fucked off. Because you know, it's not a good game. You know generally when I don't like a game instead of suffering through it I find something else better to play. Paladins is but one of many better games than Overwatch to come out this year. Another one is coming out next tuesday.

Which takes around 5 games to accomplish. Or you can queue up with people already past level 5.

Oh. Thank you for correcting me.

This game is even more team dependent than ow, hell even the aiming is piss easy. Strafing doesn't even work because of the way they handle momentum.

Truly the most casual among casual shooters.

no, they're not.

>backpedalling
>moving goalposts
i think it is you who won't take a minute to read a sentence

The game has better momentum than Overwatch. Compare Junkrat and Bomb King's launching options.

>Get a few characters to 5
>Doing decently well with each character figuring out their strengths and weaknesses
>Buy Barik and outfit him with a turret crosshealing spec
>Suddenly immortal
>Can 1v1 everyone except makoa with ult
>Push enemy teams off point by myself after half my team has died
>Consistently top damage top shielding top objective time almost every match

Barik is love. Barik is life.

>No I haven't. I played like 4 games and fucked off.
Then why are you even arguing the point when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
lmao i'm glad you wasted the money on overwatch and managed to fuck right off of it because we don't need people like you ;^) stay shit

Bomb King has more risks with his ult than Junkrat.

>Another one is coming out next tuesday.
What's that? That Amazon game?

I mean I did play a shitload before competitive came along. Competitive came along when the burnout was settling. You actually do get the last laugh though because I genuinely do regret buying Overwatch. It's just not a good game.

His argument is valid though.
If he didn't state that then the argument would turn into
>hurr durr what about those games that made it longer than a year
He needed to give credit where credit is due.
Most F2P games don't make it past a year, it's just a fact if you look at the activity of all F2P games that came out in their years, period.
There are those unique ones that just make it.

Blue Revolver
store.steampowered.com/app/439490/

I'll level with you for being a good sport
I'll never play Paladins because I boycott Hi-rez anything
their HQ is in my state so it makes my hate even harder
but i hate them for legitimate reasons other than just hatebonering

muh dick

I'm disappointed how quickly Overwatch got stale for me
How do you guys spice up your Overwatch play sessions?

with friends

That's fair and you have every right to. Hi-Rez has done some stupid shit in the past, but having recently gotten into their games I have enjoyed Paladins and Smite so far and want to have fun with them while I can. I always have a dim outlook for the future when it comes to games. The company I work for actually prints the Alpharetta-Roswell Herald, along with the John's Creek, Forsythe, and Milton Herald.

Nonstop Winston, beastfuck the enemy Mercy. Or play Mei and make people mad to help deal with the crushing depression of the fact that I'll never bury my face in her ass.

Scented candles and sexy music

I don't have those, and I haven't made any friends while playing Overwatch either.

>The company I work for actually prints the Alpharetta-Roswell Herald, along with the John's Creek, Forsythe, and Milton Herald.
i live in Acworth/Woodstock Georgia and work at my local Walmart

use a bluetooth mouse/keyboard and attempt to play blind while taking a dump

>friends
oh

oh god that reminds me
back when I played Black Ops on the PS3, some kid had some wireless mic and proudly bragged about it as he want to the dunny and took a shit, narrating the entire process

/thread

I'm in NC. I actually feel sorry for the drivers that have to pick up the newspapers because they get paid by the mile, not by the hour, and they've had to wait a long ass time on account of us running late on more than one occasion.

I just tried playing with a controller. I have no idea how people deal with that shit.

>Cred Forums suddenly likes blizzard
what happened?

The only company to release a decent AAA game all year.

I think you mean
>Cred Forums suddenly likes Hi-Rez
what happened?

I hope you guys realize Tribes didn't start out on Steam.

Most F2P games end up on Steam when they're on their last legs like Vindictus.

I just like video games. I play what I like independently of who makes them. Whether or not their devs are nice or smart guys is irrelevant. Whether or not their product is satisfactory is all I give a shit about.

Overwatch
Paladins

>Most F2P games don't make it past a year,
A lot of games live for more than a year actually.

The actual debate is
>What constitutes as being alive?

Some people say you need CS:GO/LoL/DotA2 numbers. Others say you only need like 50 people for RO2.

How can anyone look at Overwatch and think it won't get stale after 12 hours of playing?

I'm glad hirez made a game catering almost specifically for contrarians who desperately would like to play Overwatch but won't allow themselves

Flushing sixty thousand turds out of a sewer doesn't make much of a difference.

>Own both
>Enjoy Paladins more

No you're right though it's just because we're poor

I quit OW awhile ago but I can't bring myself to play Paladins after learning about the loot system and the awful hitboxes. Apparently the game balance is also shit.

can we all agree that Overwatch has the best ass, Paladins has the best titties?

best hometown is up for debate

Whats wrong with the loot system? Cards are relatively cheap to buy anyways.

No, it's because of contrarians who are desperate as hell to shit on Blizzard.

Cred Forumseddit has wanted to see Overwatch die since the day it existed.
Fortunately, Cred Forumseddit opinions are only relevant in Cred Forumseddit.

i dont think they said anything about being too poor dude...

I agree but my reason is because I hate Blizzard.

Game balance isn't bad. Every champ is viable and as long as you have one tool as designated objective babysitter your team comp isnt that important.

...

Delete the card system and I might give it a chance.

Whatever it takes to make yourself feel better I guess.

The hitboxes are way fucking worse in the firing range than in live gameplay for some reason I just don't understand. Maybe to simulate lag? I don't fucking know.

See, shit like that is so alien to me. I don't understand why people can't separate the creator from the product and judge them on their own merits. I don't really care for Overwatch but the fact that Blizzard made it has fuckall to do with it.

>delete the only thing that separates it from overwatch and rewards different playstyles

I'm not in the mood for F2P grind bullshit. I want to hit the ground running and rely on my skills to win.

Maybe that's why I loved TF2 so much before it went full autism.

Overwatch gives you better chances to appreciate arse (e.g. playing as Torb with a Widowmaker on your team)
Paladins makes the breasts too difficult to appreciate

>Cred Forumseddit has wanted to see Overwatch die since the day it existed.

>All those people saying OW would die within a month
>All those people saying OW would die after competitive launches
>All those people saying OW would die by the end of the year

Honestly, I find it kind of sad that some people live solely to see games fail and die.

Stat modifiers are pure cancer, just like Ults in Overwatch.
These shooters should depend completely on your skill.
Stat modifiers, ults, killstreaks in other games, perks...
All that is absolute cancer.

>I'm not in the mood for F2P grind bullshit
I mean you get so much gold each game you're going to have all the cards you want for a specific character in a few hours of playing. The grind is not that bad, arguably the summer lootbox grind in OW was worse.

There is no grind in this game. You're literally swimming in cash to buy any loadout you want.

>TRIBES DIDNT START ON STEAM
It sure as fuck ended there. Game was mediocre anyway.

>Honestly, I find it kind of sad that some people live solely to see games fail and die.
This is a major reason why Cred Forums is such a shithole.

The card system barely changes how your character plays anymore

The one thing I loved about classic TF2 and OW was how you could pick up and play the game without worrying about grinding/buying/trading for stuff to optimize your character.

That's one of the reasons why I can't really enjoy any F2P game that much.

There's CliffyB's new game, The Unreal Tournament reboot, and some kind of Quake game too on the horizon. Soon.

Even then the default cards are good enough as is

Paladins has the same shitty 50/50 match making as Overwatch.

If I play random casual, I either fight completely retards or some no life loser who invested their whole free time into gaming.

>overwatch has only one had new character since release
>paladins adds a new character every 4-5 weeks

How the FUCK is paladins BTFO of overwatch so hard?

I expect it to improve with time.
I won't say that its a great/good game until that happens.

>The grind is not that bad, arguably the summer lootbox grind in OW was worse.
I fail to see why you're even comparing the two.
One is integral to gameplay whereas the other is purely cosmetic.

>WOW UR PLAYING A GAME THAT I DONT LIKE YOU MUST HAVE SHIT TASTE
>NO YOU IDORT YOU CAN ONLY PLAY THIS GAME OR IM NOT YOUR FRIEND

Just be glad you still somehow have friends, OP.

Lots of cards have major effects, usually 1 or 2 a champ and most champs have 2 or 3 playstyles they can be set up as that are fairly different.

Just gotta accept that Overwatch has set a precedent for FPS now for the next generation

Just like Halo and/or CoD did last generation

>Paladins has the same shitty 50/50 match making as Overwatch.
No you just suck ass.

I really don't fucking care either way. I like smite, spent alot of time in it. But TA was so mediocre, even at release. I have already spent 10X the hours I played tribes in paladins.

Has it made that much of an impact?
OW feels nowhere near as big a deal as Halo 1 or COD4
I don't expect too many more of these shooters
Waifuporn is nice though

most cards are shit with a few mandatory ones

That's nice, but has nothing to do with my point.

>how can people have such shit taste?
Well they did play Overwatch.

Cards are not win buttons.
Fuck if you want a skill based game don't play a class based shooter.

Can't open the game to check right now, but I certainly don't remember anything that changes how your character plays as much as the old card system did. Care to name some?

It is fun user.

I think it is an even bigger deal, even if you go off numbers alone

I mean, its been about a year since its release and we already have been getting and will get
>Battleborn
>Paladins
>Lawbreakers
>Quake Champions

Its the generation of Hero Shooters, when the industry realised merging the MOBA and FPS genre will net a playerbase from both sides.

I'm by no means against Overwatch though, same with CoD and Halo, its the imitators that tarnish the original too

You act like F2P killed this game.
F2P and bad models don't kill games, if they did LoL would have died years ago.
Tribes died because it was a shitty game.

TF2 and OW are skill based though.

I just don't like having to grind for stuff to maximize my potential.

>You act like F2P killed this game.
No.
I'm just saying that Tribes was popular before HiR killed it and then you underaged fucks go and cite Steam numbers.

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Jolt, propel, masterful, thrill of the hunt wormhole and soar reset, bariks self sustain setup. I've only really been playing a ton of drogoz and evie so I'm out of the loop on other champs but I'm sure theres more.

OW is definitely less skill based than TF2

raw inputs are much more important in TF2, but you might get away with arguing that OW is more teamplay intensive

>TF2 and OW are skill based though.
I played tf2 6s and HL years ago, it is not a hugely skill based game, and overwatch is a causal version of tf2 6s, with terrible small maps.
If you wanna play something skill based don't look at any of these games.

>OW are skill based

It was on steam like 3 months after its standalone launch. Are you saying the game died in 3 months? Doesnt sound like a good game to me

Bomb King and anything that modifies Poppy Bomb.

Flying for DAYS

>I'm just saying that Tribes was popular before HiR killed it
Prove this. I hear tons of people say it, but have seen no credible source. Show me the daily player base before it was "ruined"
At max this game had 20k people playing a once.

Are you aware that erez was paying out of his own pocket to keep hirez alive? That's how bad tribes and global agenda were doing. They dropped the games because they weren't making them money.

I run at least 2 to 3 different loadouts on each characters I main:

Nando: Point-man or Unstoppable Charge
Ying: Healslut or Shatterbuild, testing flank build atm
Bad Dragon: Jet pack or shield crasher
Bomb King: Poppy or Grumpy
Barrick: Shield Build or Turret sustain
Grouk: Totem or Artillery build

There's sure to be more as I unlock characters or they introduce new cards.

And that's good. You buy items and pick decks that counter the enemy team. You can actually "main" a character .

Unlike Overwatch, it becomes an endless shit fest of counter picking or having 3 snipers.

this. One time i played for 24 hours straight for no reason. 4 other players did aswell, kept fighting with or against them all night.

Hmm... I guess. Part of me thinks it's all the developers going in the same direction and the players just eating what's put on the table, not seeing any decent variety around

I'm not comparing the two.

TF2 is definitely skill based. Demo, Soldier, and Pyro alone require quite a bit of skill to excel at and in the right hands completely decimate pubs.

It sounds like you haven't played it though so whatever.

Tracer can fly?

lets hope you're right

Nether Step is essentially Tracer's Blink

>require quite a bit of skill to excel at
Compared to what? CoD and battlefield?
Tf2 is a fast and easy game. It has depth in the games design, but combat and the skill it takes is relatively low, unless you think aiming in tf2 is hard. At that point you suck at shooters.

Blink can make you fly and all 3 dashes are linked to one cooldown?
These abilities are extremely different. Its as much tracers blink as blink is sprint.

Too bad. You've convinced me. 5 years of Hero Shooters, this is our fate.

It's not.

Sorry, should've worded it better.

Nether Step plays similar to Blink.

Yeah, alot of the movement abilities are. Most of them are seen in mobas.

Nether Step can go in any direction you want, even fly straight upwards and can be specced to give full reloads. Plus, Andy comes with a hover by default.

>I just don't like having to grind for stuff to maximize my potential.
>few matches to get any card you want is grind
not to mention the default cards are more than enough to win against anyone
im thinking you're just autistic

Like 99% of the Overwatch community does this anyway

Even Call of Duty has jumped into the meme of having different characters with Ults.

Yo Hi-Rez, if you're gonna shill at me, at least figure out what I like first.

what are YOU comparing it to?

Elves, orcs fucking elves, and cuckolding.

>Oblong head
>Those loose strands of hair
>That hidden 5 head early stages of balding

Lmao

>poor man's overwatch
loving every laugh

Is this false flagging? I refuse to believe someone on Cred Forums still thinks defense heroes are good and saying coin flip was trash means you're bronze.

I play once every few days and try to switch up te heroes I choose. It hasn't gotten stale for me yet but I'm only level 50.

>ridiculously attractive

lmao

well overwatch is retard man's overwatch considering it's 40 dollaridos for a polished f2p game with no depth and gets stale as fuck if you play alone
so there's that

>suiciad

you better an hero

I don't know, user. Why don't you fix that and bow to your f2p god? Why not abandon Blizzard? They surely abandoned you long ago.

That sounds as bad as League. Is there a large overlap between the two communities?

*smart man's overwatch

A game like counter strike, one that has complex aiming dynamics.

Friendly reminder that once the October update hits for OW, everybody will be back
September wasn't the best month for OW

Not him but I'd be surprised if most of OW players didn't play LoL too at some point
Honestly OW always seemed the new LoL to me, now that Riot has fucked up but good
>huge marketing, very popular, normie as fuck
>waifu/husbando factor is strong
>casual as it gets
>run by a company you really don't want to give your money to

Yeah, I agree with you, the game will surely stop bleeding players once new content is added. Don't worry Overbros, this Paladin shit has nothing on our game

>Is there a large overlap between the two communities?
They even censored "gg ez" in OW. I shit you not.

I say September wasn't the best because the update was stretched out too long. We had the same content on the PTR for like 2 weeks and then that was the update for the month, which was another 4. Since it was just a map and new emotes, people got burnt out on it fast.

>implying you can't install it without steam

>shit taste
>bought overwatch
gee i wonder if there is some corelation

>You can come back after bleeding massive amounts of players

When has this ever held true?

great gril

The game is good.

Victor needs a slight damage buff, Bombking needs to be fixed to not bug out when people are on his mines and Skyeeeeeeeeee needs a fucking nerf to the ulti because the range is freaking insane.

Rest is good.

> Viktor needs a damage buff

45k today
that's actually good considering it how many people that are in game at one moment, the unique players for this game should be in the 100ks so far

>>two of my closest Overwatch buddies are now playing this F2P shit most nights
>What the fuck, how can people have such shit taste?

Gee, why would people seek out new games when Overwatch gets no content and is poorly balanced (while the devs try and force out a competitive scene)?
It's called boredom and they're trying to cure it.

I said slight. He gets literally out DPS's by support class paladins.

Compare him to any other DPS class and he deals abysmal damage. His big advantage is being sanic so he can hit and run. And if you're going by that route, he has a harder time getting around than other flanker and lacks their DPS as well.

It's like Hi-Rez changed their mind on what he's supposed to to halfway through his development.

it has something like 14 maps and 2 gamemodes

Nude mods when?

Just ignore the crossair, the laser obviously hit the head. :^)

>playing viktor
>playing cassie
>playing anyone from damage except bombking and drogoz
why do these kind of people even exist

Acting like these are not on overwatch.
Fucking see at least 4 of these per game

The game isn't even released yet and it's f2p while overwatch was a full priced game.

lack of r34 is the only problem with paladins.
5m radius hitbox is ok compared to that

>BUT IT'S A BETA

Victor is fun.
I don't feel like paying coins to unlock the needed cards to make Drogoz not shit when I have to buy the supports and frontliner because no one wants to play them.
But at least people are retarded and don't buy the Wreck upgrade to ruin my shields.

If I want to play busty Windrunner, Ill play busty Windrunner

No he doesn't. You're very clearly sucking a lot of dick with Victor if you aren't top dmg every single round. He IS the highest dmg hero in overwatch. He's just not bursty like skyes and others so it may seem like he's weak; but in reality you are.

>In overwatch

top kek

>game in beta isn't as polished as a released one
>somehow this is weird or not ok
???

how do you not have surplus resources?
i unlocked every champ and half the cards in the game after playing for 18 hours
i now have like half a million credits or something

A beta isn't less polished and has less content than the finished product or something?

On the other hand Overwatch still has balance and content issues after being out for over 4 motnhs AND being a full priced game.

>shit taste
Huh it's almost like you do too, playing overwatch and all.

>when a character damage is so high, it's the top dps in other games too

Team Fortress 2 is still better than the both of them.

He deals 1500 damage a second and can headshot. Supports max can deal around 1000
His damage is already top tier.
I have yet to get anything but gold damage with him.

99% of viktor players are complete fucking shit. they always jerk around instead of getting on the point when there's nobody to contest it.also just fucking play battlefield or some generic shooter instead of playing vik

But I am top damage when I pick him.
Only problem is that I'm also top damage with Skye, Cassie, OCDoughnutSteel, Buck, SniperChick and pretty much any other hero except Fernando.

My end game damage with him is generally over 100k, while with Skye it's over 150k in games where I dominate as much.

Also this is Paladins, not Overwatch.

I wasted a lot of gold to make Victor look good.

>playing Overwatch or Paladins

They're both complete trash.

the hitbox is complete bullshit, she can fire the arrows in the general direction of the enemy and hit something almost every time

>buying cosmetics before functional items

oh shit nigger

You mean not-Reaper.

Yeah but tits

I don't bother with hero's that don't seem too fun. I will unlock him down the line sometimes.

I wanted to be hot while killing people.

>I wanted to be hot while killing people.

These ''people'' are the reason microtransactions exist.

Do the industry a favor and off yourself.

>overwatch fags think anything that looks like spawn is reaper
Please just be a hero user.

But also legit skeleton arms

>These ''people'' are the reason microtransactions exist.
That person bought stuff with in-game coins, not real money. So it has absolutely nothing to do with microtransactions.

Off yourself.

>not-Overwatchfags keep trying to defend their obvious ripoff

That's how the industry sees Paladins, as the chinese knockoff, and rightfully so.

Not to mention the ones who come to Cred Forums have a clear inferiority complex.

You will never see a Paladins thread begin without mentioning Overwatch, and thus, this game will always live in Overwatch's shadow.

can't argue with that

I did the same thing. Downloaded Paladins a few days ago, played for 5-6 hours and decided to buy Overwatch. I played the beta, but I didn't like it all that much. Ended up refunding Overwatch.
The solo queueing is terrible and i don't have any friends.

>how dare you pay for things you want
>I'm gonna go file share because games that I think are good because thats what earns us more content
You are the problem. I fucking pirate 75% of the games I have played, but anything worth a damn that I liked and put in 20 hrs or more I threw in some cash.
Fuck, I spent 80 on paladins just because I want to see Hi Rez make some improvements, I'm gonna wait until the hitboxes are fixed and the UI bugs less before I spend more.

It takes me 2+ minutes sometimes to find a quickplay match on EU servers (~11pm). Too fucking long if you ask me.

androxus is mccree you mouthbreather

>Not liking the contrast of spooky and sexy all in one character

>I spent 80 on paladins
See?
You are the cancer killing this industry.

Free to play games need to disappear, plain and simple.
There has never been, and there will never be a good free to play game.

>What the fuck, how can people have such shit taste?
well, they do play Overwatch

>Giving Hi-res money
Whoa I like Paladins, but after what they did with Tribes, never again

>I spent 80 on paladins

Paladins doesn't even have any cool memes.

Dota 2 is a great free to play game, the only complaint people have of it is the genre theyre not fond of

Someone post a good Andraxus loadout.

>That's how the industry sees Paladins, as the chinese knockoff, and rightfully so
Only overwatch fanboys think that.
Also, you came here to talk about overwatch, so no shit overwatch will be mentioned when you dumb niggers keep shitposting about it.
Aside from that overwatch is already dying due to its terribly slow design. Then again dumb asses like you are playing a game with aimbot being a ket feature in some characters acting like this game is some god sent, when it is a casual players tf2.

>Shut down a shitty non-profitable game
I see no problem with this

>MOBAs

TELL ME THERE'S SFM PORN OF THAT BITCH

>Only overwatch fanboys think that.
Go to a random game focused website, search any topic of Paladins.
Everyone will be talking about how it's an Overwatch ripoff.

>Aside from that overwatch is already dying
Source?

>Then again dumb asses like you are playing a game with aimbot being a ket feature in some characters acting like this game is some god sent, when it is a casual players tf2
And Paladins is simply what if Overwatch had the budget of a NDS game.

I actually think there is a genuine shill here.

They haven't even ripped off their models to SFM.

Besides, that design is generic as fuck, just type the name of some MMO on rule34hentai and I bet you'll find some female elf.

>I spent 80 on paladins
what
how
i am sure that total cost of every available skin is far less than $80

>what they did with Tribes
Oh no, the 10k total tribes players still haven't learned that no one else fucking cared about that game. It was terrible and shallow, just like tribes in the 90s and quake arena is.
Paladins is no bastion of skill, but at least it is fun, and allows good players to play aggressively.

>Only overwatch fanboys think that

Nah, both games are garbage, but Paladins is stolen garbage. Even the fucking font is so Blizzard it hurts. Paladins is just embarrassing.

How is that even close to being dead?
Pic related is the game I play daily and I never feel lonely.

>how can people have such shit taste?
>overwatch player

>I spent 80 on paladins
Holy shit dude

Sure think kid, its hard to believe someone in the paladins thread likes paladins.
Meanwhile your faggot fanboy ass is here to lick up Blizzards cummies.

As opposed to the one licking not-Blizzard's cummies of his not-Overwatch?

>Budget of a NDS game
and the smarts to tone down the ults, make it so you have to aim most of them, making it a better game already
The veil is hard to find on generics
I am one of the 10k who care, sorry user

eh, I have like 4000 hours in Dota and though I like the game, there are tons of things that irk me about it and I think HoN in its prime before S2 ruined the game with their incompetence and increasingly gimmicky hero designs was a better game than Dota 2 ever has been. Still, Dota 2 is currently the only game in the genre I can stand so it can't be that bad.

Ying is the only reason to play this game.

Anthony Burch thinks to himself every day, "at least I don't play Paladins".

>and the smarts to tone down the ults, make it so you have to aim most of them, making it a better game already
Problem is, it lacks in everything else.

It's not polished, it's very floaty, map design is simply awful, mounts might as well be deleted, and the card system is Cowadooty killstreak and perk-tier cancer.

Want to fix these games?
Delete ults from both games, and cards from Paladins.

But it's also free garbage, compared to garbage you have to pay money for. That automatically makes it much better.

>not-tf2 keep trying to defend their obvious ripoff

That's how the industry sees Overwatch, as the Blizzard knockoff, and rightfully so.

Not to mention the ones who come to Cred Forums have a clear inferiority complex.

You will never see a tf2 thread without Overwatch fags coming in to shill their game, and thus, this game will always live in tf2's shadow.

>le cute animu pose xDD

he looks like billy

>Delete ults from OW
Id play it again

>Free game
>shill
sure

>That's how the industry sees Overwatch, as the Blizzard knockoff, and rightfully so.
Outside of Paladins threads, where?

> limit champ playstyles with no cards

How about no

Actually is worse, being free means the game will be played by ruskies, south americans purshits and the scum that made F2P TF2 awful.

Not to mention that it makes cheating pointless, you can just make a new account and keep hacking.

Retarded shills, apparently.

Oh yeah, stat percentage changes completely change everything.
Fuck no, those features are only liked by useless shits who can't play.

These games should be you, and your gun, and that's it.
Everything else is fluff that needs to be cut out.
Your skill should be the only thing that matters.

>tfw no friends to play with
I'll never be able to enjoy these kinds of games.

what game

Play Overwatch with friends, solo queue in Paladins.

>Oh yeah, stat percentage changes completely change everything.
>Fuck no, those features are only liked by useless shits who can't play.
It's been mentioned in the thread cards can change your playstyle depending on your choices. And they are easily accessible to everyone in the game

>>Your skill should be the only thing that matters.
>choose your cards according your and the enemies' team comp in order to win
>win because you knew your shit and they didn't
sounds like skill to me t.b.h.

>no bullshit ults in the game

Sign me up.

>choose your cards according your and the enemies' team comp in order to win
>win because you knew your shit and they didn't

No it's not, because you changed the stats of your character.

You and your gun, everything else is absolute cancer that has no place in these kind of games, only in RPGs.

the only ult that needs tweaking is skye's

Or you could try playing good videogames instead.
Let me guess, you are going to ask me which ones?

Maybe this kind of genre isn't for you, user.

Yeah, it's a shame even multiplayer games feel like they need to give you a hand because they know a game that relies 100% on your skills would be too hard for the borderline down syndrome players that play trash like this.

>No it's not, because you changed the stats of your character.
Yes and? Everybody ingame can do this, and you get a starting set of cards too for your heroes, so how does this not count as outplaying your enemy? The cards don't play the game on their own

Okay? I guess?

But really, which ones?

>Yes and?
And now skills are no longer involved, just stat changes.

>Everybody ingame can do this
So?

It's a cancerous feature that has no place in this game, and it's particularly what makes Paladins a failure as an online videogame.

>The cards don't play the game on their own
Not enough, delete them, they have no place in multiplayer shooters.
If you are going to add those, might as well add perks, and loadouts, and killstreaks.

Massive overlap.

You can still get away with playing non-meta, but people will not stop bitching at you. You essentially get all the blame for the loss even if you played well. (Meanwhile the soldier 76 with 3 kills and 2K damage after 5 minutes gets a pass.)

Tribesfags really need to stop being butthurt. The game died becausemost of the funding came out of one of the devs own pocket and none of you fucks didn't spend any money on the game. Thus, it died because it was never a profit.

It's not HiRez's fault, it's literally al of your faults because you didn't support the game


>b-but Smite!

Smite may be shit, but at least their player base supports the game, which is why HiRez keeps it around..

A lot of Asians pose like this irl

Of course you wouldn't know that from your basement

Sure user.

>none of you fucks didn't spend any money on the game
It's a free to play game.
Why don't you make it paid?

>It's not HiRez's fault
It is because they are way too dumb to know how to make games profitable.

>Smite may be shit, but at least their player base supports the game
Because the Smite fanbase is full of cancerous neckbeards who unironically pay microtransactions.

Love these new hi-rez drones

Yes user, your korean MMO elf #90837129734414 waifu is very asian and realistic.

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>And now skills are no longer involved, just stat changes.
You say it as if the cards alone decide whether you win the game or not. Protip this game doesn't do this

>It's a cancerous feature that has no place in this game, and it's particularly what makes Paladins a failure as an online videogame.
I don't even know what you're on about here. Opinions?

>If you are going to add those, might as well add perks, and loadouts, and killstreaks.
Again you say this but without any explanation why they are bad or don't belong in games like this. See: the part where they make gameplay more fun and varied, even changing your playstyle, and are accessible to everyone easily for FREE making them not p2w

>Paladins makes the breasts too difficult to appreciate

go into training mode and choose the shooting range

>It was what funded all these shitty rip offs games hi-rez has been doing since then.
Nah that was the cokehead CEO of Hi-Rez doing it out of his own pocket up until smite got popular and he didn't have to anymore

>using an out of date PC that sorely needs to be placed
>Overwatch only runs at the absolute lowest settings
>Paladins runs great with the higher settings

Guess which one I'm playing.

>none of you fucks didn't spend any money on the game
I did. Many other did.
The game died because Hi-Rez got too greedy and started adding OP weapons to give initiative to spend money.
Then they also listened to a retarded part of the playerbase and literally added speed limits in a gotta go fast game because little Timmy's feelings got hurt when some would fly bay at over 300 sanics/h and grab the flag.
Then they buffed retarded machine guns to a point where the Spinfuser, the image of the fucking game, was made obsolete and everyone was running a (L)AR.
And then me and I assume any other that actually liked when the game was kill and projectile based left. That's when the game died.

And instead of listening to complaints and fixing shit before the people left, Hi-Rez decided to say fuck you to everyone who supported the game and moved all the development funds to Smite.

>You say it as if the cards alone decide whether you win the game or not. Protip this game doesn't do this
Something is changing the game, and is not your skill.

>I don't even know what you're on about here.
What, only positive opinions are allowed here?

>Again you say this but without any explanation why they are bad or don't belong in games like this.
Because everything that doesn't rely on your own skill has no place in multiplayer videogames.

They are almost cheat codes, there's no difference between this and perks and killstreaks.

>the part where they make gameplay more fun and varied, even changing your playstyle
No, not at all.
Stat percentage changes won't change playstyle, playing different characters does.

>are accessible to everyone easily for FREE making them not p2w
The last thing it needed, being a P2W mechanic.
But no, it needs to be deleted.

>It is because they are way too dumb to know how to make games profitable.

SMITE is the 3rd biggest MOBA in the world right now. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not a fan of Hi-Rez either but cmon now, dont be retarded.

>He gets literally out DPS's by support class paladins.

I can't imagine being this bad at aiming.

The Console release is gonna be a riot since it's nearly impossible to aim well with a controller without aim assist/bullet magnetism

I bought mkao, the turtle guy. He's useful but my teams are so shit that when I pull in a squishy they just run to the point and attack the tank.

It's better off if I play a damage dealer at the point instead of being a team player.

The game designed for poorfags.

It's not my fault I'm a poorfag right now.

I had medical bills.

>people leave en masse
>WHY DID THEY KILL THE GAME AAAAAHHHHH

Keeping a MOBA alive is much different than keeping a shooter alive, and that's something Hi-Rez has never done, and seeing Paladins, is something that they may never manage to do.

>>He gets literally out DPS's by support class paladins.
No, not me. I out DPS Victor with the furry dude.

They left en masse because they fucked up the game, Hi-Rez shill

Didn't know, are you okay user?

>It is because they are way too dumb to know how to make games profitable.

Smite seems to be doing well tho :^)

>he posted the truth
>I'll just call him a drone

have fun with your literal dead game :^)

>fuck up the game
>people get fed up
>HI REZ DID NOTHING WRONG

>Paladins comes out
>it's worse than Overwatch in virtually every way
>but Cred Forums pretends it's better because Cred Forums loves to try to spite Blizzard in any way they can

When will the shilling end?

That character has a recycled model from another game of Hi-Rez. SMITE has more ass and tits than both Paladins and Overwatch combined.

Vindictus needs help :(

Yeah, I'm fine. Just going to be spending a while paying this shit off.

>palacuckies still trying

See And it's more interesting than OW.

Thats not what the original post said. The original said Hi-Rez doesnt know how to make ANY games profitable. He couldn't be more wrong. They took a gamble on the MOBA market and actually turned out to be successful with it. Aka they made a profitable game, probably more profitable than most AAA games out there right now.

>What, only positive opinions are allowed here?
No but I'd prefer arguments to opinions. With facts and all, not "uuuh this sucks, it's cancerous because i say so!"

>They are almost cheat codes, there's no difference between this and perks and killstreaks.
Everybody has access to them, so everyone has cheat codes for free. Sound balanced to me, perfectly equal for everyone

>Stat percentage changes won't change playstyle, playing different characters does.
Straight up denying that you can change playstyle (at least partially) with cards now? Something tells me you didn't play the game and are just memeing for the sake of sperging out on this feature
See >The last thing it needed, being a P2W mechanic. But no, it needs to be deleted.
again "DELETE THIS" with no argument over a non p2w feature

When Battleborn goes F2P so people can defend that while shitting on Overwatch and Paladins. Then Lawbreakers will come out and people will latch onto that

wtf I hate Tribes now

>Year 20xx
>Smite has run out of mythologies and folklore to take characters from
>Only """""balance""""" patches now

>Somwhere on the internet, where the Cred Forums of Cred Forums's successor is now thriving
>Someone posts a new thread about the latest character in Paladins
>An 80 year old man types into his neural interface
>"They're gonna kill Smite for Paladins like they did Tribes"

So I guess that makes this post obsolete then >people praise the game as the second coming of christ
>people stop playing it because RUINED
>devs don't get valuable input to make changes
>hahahah hirez KILLED ANOTHER GAME hahhaef

>Everybody has access to them
That's irrelevant.
They should not be.

You don't give everyone a wallhack and say that it's fine because everyone has it.

>Straight up denying that you can change playstyle (at least partially) with cards now?
A different weapon can change playstyles, little stat changes don't.

>again "DELETE THIS" with no argument over a non p2w feature
Everything is allowed as long as it's not P2W?

Because Tribes fanbase was filled with classy gentlemen with Ph. D's in every science field that own American Express Centurions.

>That character has a recycled model from another game of Hi-Rez
source?

>people stop playing it because RUINED
Shouldn't have ruined it.

>devs don't get valuable input to make changes
Because the damage was done already, they went full jew mode and fucked it up.

>Smite has run out of mythologies and folklore to take characters from.

Theres 130 million different deities in hinduism alone. Theres a god for everything there, even for shitting. Odds are people are going to get tired of the core gameplay mechanic faster than Hi-Rez would run out of ideas for new gods.

Hey, remember when Cred Forums stomped Reddit in a game of Tribes?

Good times.

But Paladins was boring out of the gate

I think the most worrying part of all this is how easy it is to get over the monetization.
Not because it's bad, but because it's only a matter of time before they pull out another Tribe.

It's gonna break 70k peak players this weekend, assuming servers don't catch on fire I don't think anyone needs to try anything.

>Everyone will be talking about how it's an Overwatch ripoff.
Yeah, but the arguments are weak clickbait with unfounded arguements that make little to no sense. I mean some are dumb enough to call viktor a clone of 76, when both are inspired by the CoD-era modern warfare shooter.
Fucking look at overwatches first articles, they are the same calling overwatch a tf2 clone from 2014-2015.
Game is likely losing traction fast due to Blizzards refusal to put out accurate numbers. They keep saying 15 mil players counting the free beta testers but that has nothing to do with the daily traction they get.
TF2 for example has 35 mil players but only 70k daily players.
If overwatch had numbers in the US of 100k or more they should/would release that info, but they know the illusion of millions looks better then the true numbers.
>LOW BUDGET OVERWATCH
Actual it feels like an open beta, due to the lack of content and unpolished game atm. Give it 2-3 months to iron out the game, it should be better.
Meanwhile overwatch has even less content then paladins, the fact that they are comparable is disgusting.

Skins, motherfucker. SKINS.

Also the Founder's Pack is a good deal.

>And it's more interesting than OW.
According to angry Hi-Rez shills.

Hi Rez ruined a good game with their Tribes bullshit.

Paladins is already garbage, so there's nothing to ruin.

>Shouldn't have ruined it.
That's been their way of doing things since, just that you can't get over the fact that tribes was never as good as you claim it to be.
Smite has been ruined many times over, Paladins was ruined 3-4 times in closed beta

So, it all depends on the fact that you don't have info?
And you think i'm going to trust the speculation of Cred Forums, where people have been desperate to see Overwatch fail since it was revealed?
And in a thread about a game with a community that, since the game had an open beta, hasn't been able to make a spark discussion without calling for war against Overwatch?

>Meanwhile overwatch has even less content then paladins
False.

>You don't give everyone a wallhack and say that it's fine because everyone has it.
Obviously they're not straight up cheats wich win you the game. Doesn't change the fact that they are, ONCE AGAIN, free for everyone aka can be bought with gold easily

>A different weapon can change playstyles, little stat changes don't.
Did you check the post I linked? Mind making an argument based off that instead of opinions?

>Everything is allowed as long as it's not P2W?
It's allowed because it's not cancerous despite what you think, retard
And you still didn't explain why they are supposed to be cancerous in the first place, considering they are, ONCE AGAIN AND AGAIN, accessible to everyone etc

you mean Mcreeper

I hate overwatch. It's a casual shitbox. That said, paladins is a blatant ripoff of everything that is overwatch, including the characters. If you can't see that, you're more autistic than the average overwatch player.

>all these blind Palacucks Redditors pretending their game is better than Overwatch
They're literally the same game, but Paladins is even more poorly balanced without nearly as much polish to the gameplay. It's a straight downgrade.
>b-but Overwatch is dying!
And Paladins will die too, people are latching onto it because they're bored of Overwatch and it's an Overwatch clone. It won't last long when people get bored of the characters and realize it doesn't play as well, and they keep getting games with niggers from Brazil or obnoxious Russians.

People saying Paladins is better than OW never played OW

Paladins is the same shit as OW, except it's full of bugs. The only positive thing about Paladins is that it's free. OW is better and more polished

No, it's not wallhacks, it's cancer more comparable with perks and killstreaks.
Cancer, nonetheless.

>Did you check the post I linked? Mind making an argument based off that instead of opinions?
Exactly, stat changes.
There's nothing to talk about.

>It's allowed because it's not cancerous despite what you think, retard
Everything that affects gameplay that's not directly your skill is cancer.

>considering they are, ONCE AGAIN AND AGAIN, accessible to everyone etc
So?
A cancerous mechanics stops being cancerous because everyone can use it?

EVERYTHING, and I repeat again, EVERYTHING that affects gameplay in this games that isn't your movement or shooting your weapon is cancer.

>Overwatch for poor third worlders and underagers

no wonder Cred Forums loves it!

With luck, all the hackers getting banned from OW will get redirected to Paladins instead of them being autistic enough to buy the game again.

OW doesn't have Evie or Drogoz

You mean Mei and Pharah?

You come across as someone who is rehashing other people's opinions without actually understanding the basis for those opinions.

>Calls everything he personally dislikes cancer
>This posting style
>Self-righteousness
How do you feel about stealth in multiplayer games, user?

No. I mean speedy characters. OW is slow as shit

Mei and Pharah lol

Both games are slow as fuck.

Evie was made before Mei though, check your facts. And Pharah is stolen straight from Global Agenda

>not owning both and playing the other when one gets stale

See for yourself. Two red haired chicks with same breast size, same waistcloth, both have red long braided hair. Either this is their artists fetish, or they recycled some of the assets from their previous game and changed them a bit.

You get Genji, I can bet you can't find that one in Paladins.

Underage ADHD faggot detected. Spergs like you are the reason Halo 5, Advanced Warfare and Destiny were allowed to happen
>le ebin sanic speed gameplay XD XD XD

Why would anyone steal from a terrible Hi-Rez game?

>Evie
>Speedy character
Evie has 3 defensive spell and 2 of them do the same thing, other than that it's just an autoattack slut, it's not a "speedy character" just a poorly designed one

>terrible
kek

>No, it's not wallhacks, it's cancer more comparable with perks and killstreaks.
opinions without argument just like before
calling something cancer because of what you think doesn't make it cancer for everyone else, cards are the only thing that Paladins has over, say, Overwatch

>Exactly, stat changes. There's nothing to talk about.
>"X doesn't do Y because I say so, nevermind the fact I have no idea what the fuck I'm talking about or even bothered to check the post"

>A cancerous mechanics stops being cancerous because everyone can use it?
more buzzwords I see

>EVERYTHING, and I repeat again, EVERYTHING that affects gameplay in this games that isn't your movement or shooting your weapon is cancer.
Going all out on the memes huh? Really makes me scratch my noggin'
Oh and you still didn't explain why cards are "cancer" in any way, just autistically repeat that they are.

>Destiny
>Sanic speed

if anything games are becoming slower user, look at the fucking Doom MP

> slow

Paladins is more fast paced, 1 person can destroy the enemy team even if they have 3 tanks and 2 supports.

The entirety of overwatch is recycled content from another game.

Evie during Closed Beta was an hero based on summons, I don't understand why they reverted that and made her boring to play instead

Well, when you jew out any game that's sub par (I have legit refunded 5 dollar games before)
You have a lot left over, and there is no better way to encourage more content in a game or sequels then voting with your dollars.
Shit, I spent like 400 bucks on smite, around 200 on tf2, 350 on dota in the last 4 years.

The movement is slow as fuck, just because you can have boosts doesn't make it faster.
By that logic, Tracer and Genji mean Overwatch is fast.

>slow = bad
ADHD faggot. Slow tactical gameplay > sanic speed chaotic bullshit

I was an Evie main after she came out and yeah I don't understand either

I have said the game is unfinished and lacks polish, so its not like I've been jerking off the game. All I said to you was its not a "copy" of overwatch. If it was a copy then overwatch would literally be 100% irrelevant and dead.

The problem with these games is that they are not fast enough, and the ''speed'' depends on shit like that webm.
Is that the normal movement of the game?
No, it's an ability from one character.
If the standard walking speed is fast, then it's a fast game.
Otherwise it's just like Advanced Warfare or Black Ops 3, slow games with speed boosts.

>Hi-Rez almost made Ying's basic shots exactly like Lucio's

Thank god the community complained about it.

Two characters looking alike isn't the same as recycling it from another game
By this logic all moeshit is ripped from the original moeshit cause they all look exactly the same and the only thing keeping even the fans from being confused, are dresses and weird hairstyles
>same breast size, same waistcloth, both have red long braided hair
as if that aren't a generic as fuck things that has been seen millons of times in everything

Is this shilling yet? The girl is very cute but I don't think we need a thread everyday

>bad players play this game
that's not true, if people like you are not playing it user

>this is a good thing
Back to CoD, faggot. OW is good because it depends on teamwork and coordination. If you wanna be le epic lone wolf and 360 nosc0p3 pr0snip3z the whole enemy team, Infinite Warfare comes out soon.

Moba baiting thread was stale as fuck so we need something new to shitpost.

Yes.

>he can't be fast and tactical at the same time
keep up grampa

>no place in these kind of games, only in RPGs.
its a class based shooter. That is where differences between character should be relevant and centered

Also battleborn is dead.

>If it was a copy then overwatch would literally be 100% irrelevant and dead.

Not at all.
Overwatch was popular even before it came out.
There's been tons of shooters, yet Call of Duty is still up there.
It's not as easy as copying osmething.

If this is shilling then OW has been and keeps being shilled here in titanic proportions
Remember when there used to be 8 OW threads every day?
Maybe when a popular game comes out, or one that has some controversity to it, people just want to discuss it
This shilling meme is bad, shilling on here has happened no doubt but everyone just uses it to discard arguments or shit up threads

>tactical

Kek

>wanting to go fast
Literally an ADHD child with no patience or attention span.

I love how
>b-b-but Overwatch
Is basically the excuse to every single thing Paladins does wrong.

And you are surprised people consider it an Overwatch ripoff, when you yourselves mantain the game in Overwatch's shadow.

Holy shit Palacucks need to go back to their echo chamber general where they can pretend their game isn't a buggy, poorly balanced catastrophe

Prove your point or stfu.
The copy argument is so fucking weak its retarded.
No game has 100% originality in 2016, you autist. Fucking dumb little niggers like you say shit like "paladins ripped off roadhog, they both have a hook" when lasso abilities have been in games and shooters years before either of these were even in alpha.

Which champ isn't balanced?

This. Fucking this. The "muh Overwatch" strawman just proves how Paladins fanboys are literally only playing that game because they're contrarians who want to shit on a popular, successful game. Pathetic.

>censored
>it just changes what you say to embarrassing things like "one last game before mommy sends me to bed"

CoD was a copy of Medal of Honor, you fucking moron.
The copy argument is fucking retarded

The fuck are you on about my man? I used the OW threads as an example I never even mentioned that I play any of these games. Why did you even reply to me

Yeah but CoD was better than MoH and that's why it became more relevant. Paladins is literally just a downgraded poorfag version of OW.

Or maybe its fun user. Something you probably haven't had in awhile

We're talking about two Hi-Rez games, which even look and play somewhat similar to each other.

>not wanting to go fast
literally an old man with deteriorated reflexes

Class based shooters were a mistake

>None of you funded it

Hey I bought the starter pack!

So what
The characters aren't the same, it's a generic hot girl body you see everywhere with similarites. The model isn't the same so it's not recycled.

Paladins is so much better than Overcuck it's not even funny. And it's fucking free.

>Busty redeads is now a fetish
What? Im sure every guy likes busty redheads

You're less than me if you're younger so I can live with that.

>one character is fast
>so that means the whole game is fast

don't do that.

you'll die before me so I can live with that

Epic troll post bro! XD fucking upvoted! XD link your Paladins LetsPlay video so I can fucking GENOCIDE that like button my man! XD *brofist!*

Skye, Drogoz, Vik and Evie are all fast. Even the slowest champs in paladins are faster than OW heros however, one of the nice things of everyone having a movement ability.

Objectively incorrect, post hidden.

>CoD was a copy of Medal of Honor
Call of Duty was created by the developers of MoH, idiot.
2015 became Infinity Ward.

>it's just fun
>but overwatch sucks tho lolxD even though it's the same exact game, only Paladins is fun! No I'm not paid by HiRez I'm a GAMER like you bro!

But OW is too slow to be fun

Down grade in what way, besides the unfinished aspect of it?
>both games have terrible hitboxes and hurtboxes
>both games have 2 gamemodes
>22 character with 4 abilities? vs 18 characters with 5 abilities?
>5v5 locked picks vs 6v6 swapping game
>ulti to teamwipe, or outplay to teamwipe
>has a shop and cards to add character depth, compared to nothing
>larger maps vs bottleneck stalemates
>40 dollars

That's irrelevant. Medal of Honor was not the first fps.

Because the gameplay isn't as polished, and it's a buggy mess. Graphically and mechanically Paladins is objectively inferior