Why is Japan so out of touch with gaming now?

nice meme, friend

>game awards
And what makes you think those have any worth whatsoever?

Gaming has no Academy, there's no board of elites that have some kind of professional experience by which to judge entries.

It's entirely farcical, every single awards show, every GOTY, it's all meaningless and arbitrary.

>the best x aren't the popular ones though.
everytime

lack of a good console OP

>it's a weeb thinks japan cares about pleasing people outside of japan episode

>Japan unquestionably makes the vast majority of the best modern games and games of all time
I cringed

>out of touch

so they don't make cinematic experiences? god forbid they actually have decent gameplay, not everyone cares about budget.

Such as it can be argued, the decline can be traced to the Gameboy Advance, and any such curve has only been hastened by phones.

Why bother making good games when the Japanese people don't care about or spend money on anything beyond SNES-level portable trash. The rest of the world doesn't count, either.

it's true, unpopular games like Odin Sphere Leifthrasir and Rabi-Ribi are masterpieces, but nobody will care at awards because they focused on making a good game instead of cinematic trailers

the latter statement isn't fedora at all since the best selling franchises like pac man and mario are japanese. the former is fedora if you're a dumb faggot, sure.

Their games are too gamey, and need to be more like movies, like the epic uncharted and last of us

Im only waiting fro jap games
The Last Guardian and FF15

1/2 of the top ten aren't japanese. Also, when someone says something like you get weebs saying But turn it around and you get weebs saying "well japan da best cuz mario #1!". nice hypocrisy, dumb weeb.

>it's a user pretends every reply is the same person
kill yourself.

Hmm, western games dominate western award shows. Really makes you think.

that's not hypocrisy. I didn't make that other post. there are good popular games and bad ones. are you autistic or do you not understand the concept of nuance?

Lol ok. So now you believe game awards when it suits your argument, you cancerous little shit?

Not to mention, western games getting western award from western gaming sites based on western standard. Oh wow what a surprise. But let's also include the odd Nintedo or From game for a show of goodwill, lol.

Fuck off. Go on Famitsu or some other jap site, see how much your piece of shit walking sims get.

Jap games are almost exclusively the only games that make games still play like fucking games instead of trying to convince you that you're watching a movie. Even their movie games have better gameplay than most western ones.

Post here a list of all GOTY's from the past 5 years

Then count the number of Uncharted's, TLoU's, AssassinCreed's and so on

You read western media, it's only natural western games win out. But there are barely any western games worth paying attention

-The vast majority of recent Ubisoft games are shit
-The vast majority of recent Bethesda games are shit
-The vast majority of recent Bioware games are shit
-The vast majority of recent EA games are shit
-Irrational Games's last game was mediocre, took no risks with the formula, creating a clear divide between gameplay and the story and theme at hand, and they are closed down now.
-Lionhead's games after Fable2 were absolute shit and they are no more.
-343i was never good and now leads MS's biggest IP.
-Rare is long long long gone.
-Blizzard games aren't bad but they had a really obvious shift in focus, appealing to a more casual market (which isn't bad by itself) but isnt what it was before, with every one of their games being a simplified version of their genre. HoTS is simpler than DOTA2 and even LoL, Hearthstone is simpler than Magic or Hex, current WoW is simpler and much more streamlined than pre-Cata WoW, etc etc. And deserves the name "nu-Blizzard"
-Eidos Montreal seemed ok but the latest DeusEx is poopoo
-DICE uses their engine well but haven't made a good game since (arguably) BF4 AFTER it got heavily patched and more content. BF1 seems to be as casualized as Battlefront, not Battlefield at all.

I can count on less than a hand actual good western devs
-CDProjektRed
-Rockstar
-.... I hummm... well then.

Name your top 20 games, well over half will come from a single eastern country. If not you just have shit tastes I guess.

We can close the thread now since this post already reveal what OP is.

A faggot

lets mention good games from japan that have come out in the last 10 years to call on OP's tremendous retardation

I'll start

Dragon's dogma

bravely default and its sequel

>Good games
>Dragon's Dogshit
You could have literally anything else, bud.
Why the fuck did you choose the most generic bullshit ever?

Devil May cry 3 and 4 special edition

Name a better ARPG.

you ruined it right at nº2 of the list. I'm actually impressed

MonsterHunter

>Name your top 20 games

Watch out user. That shitposter your dealing with doesn't play games. He just parrots what he thinks is right.

kys hypocrite weeb

yeah, there are bad ones like nuNintendo, final fantasy, capcom shit, konami shit, the list goes on.

monster hunter whatever

that's actually one of the best action rpgs ever dude, but if you criticizing the setting, characters or whatever shit that isn't gameplay, fuck you

Sid Meier's Civilization V.

God Eater

>everyone and their mother on Cred Forums praises how good the fighting and inmersion is, alongside character creation
nice implying

>Initial D Arcade Stage
>Ace Combat Zero
>Front Mission 4
>Front Mission 5
>Armored Core
>Tank Tank Tank

All of the games with the most hype this year and in most recent years have been Japanese.

The Japanese know how to make games people can get excited about.

Let's look at the upcoming hype
>World of Final Fantasy
>Final Fantasy XV
>The Last Guardian
>Gravity Rush 2
>Persona 5
>Nioh
>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild

Me personally? The ONLY Western game I'm hyped for right now is Dishonored II.

>Name your top 20 games, well over half will come from a single eastern country
Nope

>any post that triggers my delicate weeb sensibilities is shitposting
literally can't make this up

>implying it is bad
motherfucker, it is was the redemption of Square enix

...

>the last 10 years
you're really stretching

bayonetta

Bayonetta 1/2
Catherine
Dark Souls/Bloodborne
Shin Megami Tensei 4
Mario Galaxy 1/2
Xenoblade Chronicles
Devil May Cry 4
Metal Gear Revengeance
Street Fighter 4
Guilty Gear Xrd

>Using the word weeb out of context

Nice shitposting you sauropod

I liked Dynasty warriors 8xl

how am i hypocrite, you should realize there are ton of different people in this thread.
also try making the fact that you just came from Cred Forums less obvious

Demon's Souls
Dark Souls
Bloodborne
Metal Gear Rising
MGSV (despite the shit story)
Vanquish
Bayonetta
Devil may Cry 3/4
Yakuza 4/5/0/Ishin

spot the triggered weeaboo

pokemon black/white 2

EDF4.1

>still doesnt reveal his favorite games list because they would include japanese games and invevitably also shitty western games and he'd have to defend his inferior position

It's trash-material, right there with I Am Setsuna. Sure it's on top of it quite a bit, but still inside the bin.

nice samefagging. inb4 faked screencap """proof"""

ninja gaiden sigma 1 and 2
not 3 tho

nice shitposting, don't worry you grow out of it eventually

>all western games are shit, no one can even name 20!
You're pure cancer, weeaboo.

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The Witcher 3.

samefagging weeb is mad he got called out

then try naming at least 10 good western games in the last 10 years

>no one can even name 20!
Apparently he's right, you can't.

Shitposter still salty he can't name 20 good games and resorts to meme. LOL

name them then, since it's so easy and all.

i'm not sure who you're talking about.

>Witcher 3
>good combat
LOL

Radiant historia

>It's trash-material
I disagree completely

There is not a SINGLE game right now from the west that looks remotely interesting, especially in the AAA department.

Well, there's Divinity OS2, but that's barely B tier.

Jap games are taking the industry lead again in the AAA department and nothing you can do to stop it, Persona will sell like crazy, FFXV will move containers of copies around the world, if ever comes a DMC5 it will break sales records, any new Monster Hunter will sell like crazy, NX will kick off with BoTW and it will blow everything away, Pokemon Sun and Moon will have insane sales aswell, especially after the facelift the series got with PoGo.

But you keep playing your feels simulators.

Their slanted eyes can't even see past 720p, so they have reached their evolutionary peak. It's science.

How come it got so many game awards if it wasn't good, while in the same year Bloodborne got fuck all?

NioH

>CDProjektRed
>Rockstar
>Good
No. They are absolutely garbage just like the rest and fall into the same development traps of focus testing their games to death. Both Witcher 3 and GTAV were total abominations.
>Name your top 20 games, well over half will come from a single eastern country.
You are either a console fag or have incredibly shit taste. Probably both.

fallout new vegas
dark souls
serious sam 3
shadowrun dragonfall
bioshock
witchers
terraria
prey
D: OS
Haydee
torchlight

But we know, none of these will count because """"""""""""reasons""""""

kys

Nice joke. Game sucks dude wake up and smell the coffee.

Those games don't count. western games are all shit.

List invalidated, all I see are western shit games.

>western media gives award to western open-meme game instead of japanese game
WOW, really? I wouldn't have predicted it!!

So you agree TheLast of Us is the best game of all time? (literally, look at western scores and GOTYs)

That's a cool opinion user.

You don't honestly only play Wrpgs
You don't honestly have 20 Wrpgs in your top20 list
Come on user, open up and be honest. Everyone can spot a farse and see a list that is there just to brag or to appeal to your fellow shitposters.
Write down your _Actual_ own list. Don't post random 100 game lists.

Also we asked for games that are at most 10 years old, well over half of that list won't make the cut.

1. Ys: The Oath in Felghana
2. Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends of the Titan
3. Tales of Phantasia
4. The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
5. Mega Man 9
6. Skies of Arcadia
7. Monster Hunter (series)
8. Deathsmiles
9. Crypt of the Necrodancer
10. Persona 4
11. Metal Gear Rising
12. Metroid Prime
13. Undertale
14. Seiken Densetsu/Adventures of Mana
15. Final Fantasy Tactics
16. Super Mario World
17. Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword
18. Kirby Super Star
19. Phantom Brave
20. Bayonetta

America??? u even trying bud

>dark souls
>western

You messed up your shitpost.

>darksouls is western
>fucking Haydee

R-really man?

>Haydee
Wow, you only had to name 10 instead of 20 and you had to resort to including that. Also
>Dark Souls

>dark souls

Ys: Memories of Celceta

>10 games
>uh-uh no those aren't real I mean they dont count
I'm dying, weeaboos are so eternally butthurt. Poor weebs, so sad all their crap companies are dying.

>Undertale

but dark souls is literally a japanese game.

yea?

Metroid prime was made by retro studios in Texas USA idiot.

>too stupid to know Dark Souls came from Japan
>goes directly to m-muh weeaboos

It's a western game and that's still 10 games.

10 western games dipshit, you named 9.

Poor girl...she just learned ponies are retarded.

by your own standards you are a dipshit disgusting weeaboo too since you like darksouls

And your list counts, althought there are only 9 western games and not 20. It's just sad for us that you couldn't go 9 games without posting greelight/kickstarter/EarlyAccess indie crap, that's all.

>japanese series is made in Texas
That's not how it works idiot.

weeaboos are so dumb they can't even count to 10. holy shit this is gold.
>n-no those don't count, stop triggering me

ah, sou desu

yeah i love all of these western devs that made it

Seemed to work when they made it in Texas

It's still 10 games, whether it's western or not (it is though)

>Underrail
>Nuclear Throne
>Darkest Dungeon
>Shovel Knight
>Shantae
>Age of Decadence
>D:OS
>CK2
>EU4
>Risk of Rain
>Defender's Quest

The west has put out plenty of generation defining titles in the past 5 years. Eastern games have MOSTLY been pretty shit desu senpai.

All shit.

>it's western despite made in japan
reallly make u think huh

Etrian odyssey series

>the list has 11 games in it, subtract 1 from the list and you have 9 games

maybe you should be spending your time in preschool arithmetic instead of on the internet

That's not how it works idiot.

>It's still 10 games
So you were just naming 10 random games for no reason.

Senran kagura 2

Not being ironical or sarcastic in the slightest

10 random games that end up being better than anything japanese, really speaks for the low quality of japcrap. makes me ponder a bit.

he also discounted "cinematic games" that barely count like Witcher

Is that another huge tit ninja dynasty warriors clone?

>posts japanese game
>doesn't realise it
>enter denial and backlash phase
>goldface posting

you're killin' me here

yes it does.
if it's made in the west, it's a western game.
Dark Souls is not made in the west so it's not a western game

>You don't honestly only play Wrpgs
is my list of some recently released stuff, but yeah I do genuinely love most of the games in that pic. Sorry you have such shit taste.

>shovel knight is shit
>so is nuclear throne
0/10

And I suppose Ratatouille is an American dish when it's cooked by an American.

Versus is

2, crimson girls, actually takes a cuhrayzee approach rather than a musou one. Still needs polishing, but it shows similitude with games like sengoku basara

>another huge tit ninja
Nigga, senran kagura is the first of its kind and the one that spawned the fad

No you're shit.

no, since the dish wasn't developed there.

>goobergaters continue to try to make everything about them
>these are the same people who call out girls for attention whoring

Loving
Every
Laugh

>cannot count to 10
>is embarrassed that he failed kindergarden
>enter denial and backlash phase

you're killin' me here

>list games that have come out
I want it so bad user, holy fucking shit.

You are american, are you?

Only americans make these short of retarded arguments and refuse to yield when proven overhelmingly wrong

Consider ceasing your posting or suicide

I wouldn't say Ubisoft's games are shit. They're all decent games, except for Watch Dogs, but the problem is they're all the same. Ubisoft took their Assassin's Creed formula and applied it to every franchise they have, and for a while it was kind of neat, then it was funny to see how far they'd go with it, and then it got stale.

I give them a lot of credit for holding off on Assassin's Creed for a couple years so they can figure out something new to do with it. Say what you will about Ubisoft, but a move like that at least shows some integrity.

Even Japanese devs agree that they're falling behind and need to do better

They don't need you to coddle them, you pasty white fuck

Ah I see. So if I live in Japan and develop an indie game there, it becomes a Japanese game

Good to know!

I don't give a fuck who started it. You said "senran kagura 2" so I assumed it was "another" huge tit ninja game you angry weeb faggot

>op shitposts about Japan's blowing ass for the last ten years
No, I'm not

nope, funny how you still haven't explained how Dark Souls is western.

>muh burgerclaps
Shouldn't you be praying to the East right now?

some of those indies lead me to believe that you have severe autism

They also reflect the truth that most people ITT are saying: Most big western games are shit. In the last 10 years you can't fill your tiny list with AA or AAAs because there are so few good ones, you need to resort to indies already. Over half of your top10 are indies. In a 50 games list if would be 5 AA/AAAs and 45 indies, further proving our point.

never ever

no, since you're not japanese.

Anything Vanillaware, Fromsoft and Falcom.

>calmly expose what the game is about

>I DONT GIVE A FUCK YOU WEEB FAGGOT!

the only one angry here is you, stupid cunt, trying too hard to make fans of japanese games look bad

Name me one game that looks and plays like Dragon's Dogma.

You fucking retards think World of Warcraft artsyles are unique looking, yet you see that shit glued onto literally fucking everything these days, and 80's styled fantasy artstyles (which Dragon's Dogma tries to replicate) is basically non-existent these days.

What are some good western games in the past 10 years?

Fuck, my mistake, I actually wanted to quote the post of the guy who says dark souls is western, the one you are arguing with

shovel knight
killer instinct

Dark Souls

I Am Setsuna was pretty good and it wasn't even developed by Square Enix you meme'ing retard.

Your logic is flawed, and you keeping moving the goalposts when your arguments are blown the fuck out

Now you're saying it's all about the nationality of the person making it again...

I resort back to my ratatouille argument

>2d, generic as fuck pixel shit platformer is considered a good game

Fucking hell

You are a weeb, aren't you?

Only a weeb would go so far to defend Japanese people like a pathetic lapdog.

Now go deny some warcrimes, cuck.

but you haven't even explained how Dark Souls is western.
small western inspiration doesn't make it not japanese
if i take small inspiration from a Asian dish my dish isn't asian, since i'm not fucking asian.

The difference is that you posted retarded comparisons instead of something that's actually truth: that americans are too stupid to ever admit to be wrong

Most of them

Meanwhile, every other Japanese release is a generic JRPG that only sells because they load it with big titted 12 year olds and pedophiles eat it up

>cuck

Yep, he is a fucking idiot, guys

Max Payne
Alan Wake
Mafia
Saints Row 2
Left 4 Dead 2
Half-Life
GTA 3
The Witcher
Hotline Miami
Hitman: Blood Money
Doom 4
Portal
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
Sleeping Dogs
Mirror's Edge
Mass Effect
Crysis
Just Cause
Team Fortress 2
Dead Space
Red Faction Guerrilla
Wolfenstein The New Order
Dishonored
Deus Ex
The Darkness
Mark Of The Ninja
XCOM
Starcraft
Star Wars : KOTOR
Unreal Tournament 2004
The Sims
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
No One Lives Forever
Battlefield 2
Psychonauts
Rayman Origins
SWAT 4
Princess Of Persia
Machinarium
Sam And Max
Thief: Deadly Shadows
Serious Sam
Fallout: New Vegas
TrackMania
Metro
Stalker
Painkiller
Gothic

>if you disagree with me, you're wrong and therefore American

Your worldview is fucked m8

Cuck detected

It's always so easy too, just see who gets mad when it's posted

a ton of these aren't made in the last 10 years.
or are just bad walking sims like Alan Wake, New Vegas and Witcher 3

Literally all of them
Only fanservice games exist in japan

>The last 10 years
You even have one that says 2004 in the fucking title.

> bad walking sims like Alan Wake, New Vegas and Witcher 3

webs are funny.

where did i mention witcher 3?

What the fuck does it even mean related to weeabos

I hate weeabos, but I hate retards who shitpost on Cred Forums more. You are the kind of fucktard that ruins arguments by making the part you take side with bad
Fuck you

>muh indies are bad meme
Keep moving the goal posts faggot. West is best and you obviously have shit taste.

name 1 western indie that's better than Cave Story.

Go back to rrdit

I said 'every other' you illiterate fucktard. That means at least half.

Learn some fucking English instead of moonrunes, you nippon cocksucking moron.

>last 10 years
>half of those games

shaking my head

gone home
Jokes aside, skullgirls was pretty fucking neato

Touhou still beats anything indie made western tho

I copy pasted your post. Look at your post again.

I used to feel this way as well, but now the west is just as bad or even worse so I just don't care any more.

I can't think of a single game I've enjoyed this gen that wasn't Dark Souls 3 and Mario Cart 8

>Learn some fucking English instead of moonrunes, you nippon cocksucking moron.

What the fuck

what the fuck!? is this true

j-gamers are gonna be so owned when they find out

user, I don't even know what the fuck you are trying to say

Boy, that was easy.

Souls series is from japan
the most popular and one of the best selling games globally
kill yourself

This, Japan actually makes good games which isn't what gamers nowadays want.

>came out 23 years ago

user...

sorry jsut coping with finding out that all japanese games are just fanservice garbo

No mans sky

>all the weeb damage control in this thread

...

Its actually western damage control, but its not as if Cred Forums ever read threads before posting in them

kero blaster is better than cave story and it's made by the same dude

Shovel Knight.
And like said, why the fuck would you use CS as the example? It's not even Pixel's best game.

user, shovel knight is a great game, but no way it is better than cave story, specially considering that it came out a decade later

undertale

>get BTFO
>keeps moving the goalpost

Shovel knight i's a great game. Notice how it was made with Japanese design philosophy in mind.

>proving my point