What black magic did Team Silent use to get Silent Hill 3 looking as good as it does?

It was part of a deal with Satan. The catch was that the rerelease was cursed to suck. And also that he gets a controlling interest in Konami.

I´ve been playing, reading, discussing and researching SH games for almost 17 years, and I still don´t know who this Lying Figure guy is. This´ the 2nd time I see his name mentioned.

Makes "lore-plays" where he plays the Silent Hill games and explains what the symbolism means and such. Comfy and unintentionally hilarious.

>Yamaoka never got to make an album with Nujabes and J Dilla before they both died
It hurts.

baked textures on low poly scene, that way they can use more detailed toons.

Make high-poly faces and low-poly everything else. Wolfenstein The New Order and Doom use a similar style where guns and NPC are high-res while the level textures are original Xbox tier and that's how they run at 60fps on PS4 and Xbone.

A lot of songs only use two chords, you'd be surprised. There's only 12 notes in western music anyways, you just repeat them. Also the chords Yamaoka is strumming in that song are a Cmaj7add9 to a Cadd9, so they're not even two chords really. He only changes one note between them on the B string of the guitar, (the highest chord tone). The other instruments that come in just play mostly C chord tones but in a melodic way.

I think you have to keep the original SH1 in mind when thinking about SH2 and 3, because that was the game where the Team Silent people first learned how to squeeze everything they possibly could out of a piece of hardware. SH1, despite its low-res look, is insanely detailed and filled with neat graphical tricks (obviously the most noticeably being dynamic lighting... on a PS1 game!).

The later games are rightly praised but they learned how to break ground a generation earlier.

Oh wait I fucked up it's a Cmaj7 to a Cadd9. Still only one note difference on guitar tho.

SH1 is still my favorite, and yes, looks pretty stunning for a PS1 game. The texture work is superb, and there are tons of unique textures, used once or so around the game. For example, every single shop, store, cafe...etc, in the town has an unique front.
All this, done with 128x64 pixels (tops), brown-scale textures.

Plus, Akira Yamaoka was a genius of audio world already in 1999. So it´s safe to say that the sequels owe a lot to the original SH game.

Konami PS2 age magic. They were unstoppable.

It also helps that as well as making character models look god tier, Heathers "girl down the street" look convinces you that she is absolutley genuine. While grumpy and "ugly duckling" on first view, on closer inspection she is actually very cute and funny.

You can thank the Female portion of the dev team for Heather having any "sexiness" at all. The male devs wanted her to be as misirable and as plain as possible, but the female devs objected strongly and said that, even if akward, Heather still ought to be trying to be fashionable and have a girls "needs."

The male devs concluded that the girls probably knew what the fuck they were talking about, so bare leg and arm heather with messy hair went in.

Pc related is the Heather we NEARLY got, if the male devs had their way.

>All this, done with 128x64 pixels (tops), brown-scale textures.
never ceases to amaze. The way SH1 mixes sprites, polygons, and lighting to make the game look half a generation ahead of its hardware is almost unbelievable.

Since it's the Halloween season it's as good excuse as any to take a trip back to Silent Hill.

Side note: this stupid smile always cracks me up

A big puffy fisherman's vest is not exactly what I'd call fashionable, but it wouldn't be Heather without it!

Lighting, or rather shading, it makes the textures seem less repetitive.

I think in general, at that time the sleeveless gillet look was very popular in Japan (you see them all the time in Uakuza and Tekken) but they need her to look "foreign" (SH is an American horror movie after all anons!)so its not exactly a gillett.

I can't give you Heather no Gillett, but I can give you Heather no Sweater. Official Render too, n-noice!!

>SH is an American horror movie after all anons!
>American horror
I thought Silent Hill took place in the world of Kindergarten Cop.

Gives you a feeling of a lazy summer day almost. You couldn´t start the game better than this.

Who is your daddy and what does he do?

>Who is your daddy
Harry Mason
>What does he do
He looks for a girl. Maybe you've seen her? 7 years old, short black hair...

Why isn't this considering ripping off?

They got rid of open town.

Why would it be considered ripping off?

>Since it's the Halloween season it's as good excuse as any to take a trip back to Silent Hill.
Sure thing! That´s the sign to repost the SH PC Guide + the DL links :

SH1 NTSC DDL:
mega.nz/#!bVUCTJzD!PmnPw4S7fWGyvTjw9S0-RQdk7rRp2BQNuXJqRkZCZvk

SH2 DDL:
mega.nz/#!rFcj1SIJ!47JH9M4OrzmQKuaiJ6IqUgmgz_SVNtk4LIYNSa-D-_8

SH2 torrent:
mega.nz/#!bYcEnbhC!rYnhvcJiRC46T6yExS0Y61JHZ-5N3WxFvfZMI8xbyhE

SH3 DDL:
mega.nz/#!2JNkgJ7b!nfPf5cIs6I5K-sdAs7RcnHvGA2hAvIGdpQuIoBhF3iE

SH3 torrent:
mega.nz/#!GVVGRLpD!SyklVbuLIkc38ZYji5QL3sWHKtHt9-Bto700My8pH7c

SH4 DDL:
mega.nz/#!Us1XTaII!cglH0dZOaH5yQEm4cnEh3eyUz4bIf6rACQqcVzkb4Hc

Mount the ISOs of 2 & 3, and then run their installers like always.
The SH1 is a PS1 rip that you gotta emulate.
The "sh2proxy" is a all-in-one fix, that works as a no-cd crack as well. It is included in the pack.
If you use the NEW fix mentioned in the guide, you can use the sh2proxy's EXE as the no-cd crack!

In case you experience issues saving the game / not being able to edit the disp.ini, make sure the files aren't set to "Read Only", and run the game as Administrator.
If SH2 gets stuck in a black screen upon launch, close it and re-start it again.

SH2-4 do not support Xinput gamepads. Either use Xpadder, a DirectInput pad, or just play with KB+M.

If every single thing taking inspiration from something else would be called "ripping off", we wouldn´t have much media material to enjoy.
Plus, vidya and movies are so different forms of media, especially back in late 90s, that recreating that kind of details with the old tech is pretty damn impressive.

here's the recommended emulator settings for SH1. Works great on all other games too.

The plugins used are:
-Pete's OpenGL 1.78; (more options & better performance than 2.x version)
-Eternal's SPU Engine.

alternatively just use a software renderer for very 1:1 PS1-like graphics, including 240p only.
...OR just buy the game from PSN Store for few bucks.

You could also try the new PGXP emulator, that adds Perspective Correction to PS1 textures.

...

>every thread
Is it the same guy each time?

Makes me wish Silent Hill 2 was made later. 2's character models look like pure butt compared to what they look like in the CG cutscenes.

This

Some user in those threads recommend using pcsx pgxp with sh1. I tried it but it gave me lags, but it looks better.

nice. going to try the pc versions instead of the ps2 emulators. Still need to try the room.

Only other one I want to try is frozen memories but can't get the ps2 emulator to work on that.

Not always, but often yes, I am. :)

Yeah, that is the problem with PCSX-R and thus PGXP. You pretty much need to use native resolution (0 setting for X & Y res) to avoid most framedrops, or at least never go above 1 - 1 (default enhanced res). Even then some modern gaming desktops can suffer framedrops occasionally, leaving you no choice than to use frame skipping.

All that´s one reason I´m still opting to use ePSXe + OpenGL 1.78 plugin. It just werks, at full speed.

>frozen memories
You mean Shattered Memories ?
Play the Wii port. The PS2 port is awful and graphically butchered.

Shattered Memories is an awful game, don't bother

>that webm

Huh, it looks so much crisper on my Sony TV; I guess you have to make some allowance when you emulate.

doing the red god's work, user

>I guess you have to make some allowance when you emulate.
what ever do you mean?
Also, most TVs these days have all sorts of dynamic contrast functions that can make things look slightly better.

Glad to help fellow Anons!

Who was on the phone?

user I remember already writing it some time ago, I found a version of SH4 on rutracker which has widescreen patch, options gui and 8 languages, it worked better for me than the one in the guide, I can't say about everyone tho. But the problem is the installator is in russian. So I don't know shit about programming but if you or some of you guys who make all those mods can just somehow translate it or something it is a good alternative.

Autism

Damn, PGXP is really impressive. I thought fully non-wiggly PS1 games would stay a dream forever. I'ma try it out with Ridge Racer 4 shortly.

Good art direction so everything looked well together despite the textures being shit.

Copy/pasting something isn't ripping off?

that's a weird looking phone

what's with the rope/power cord??

Was it you in yesterday's harvest moon thread?

If you get it to work smooth, post settings and specs!

It is not copy-pasting if you are recreating details from scratch, using something as the reference.

And boy, Silent Hill games have TONS of references and borrowed ideas.

I love that picture. the gillet's not even closed, feels like a bit of wind would open it and expose her bare pale bust...
they tryed to not make her sexy, but damn.

It's just background stuff put into a totally different story and context. It's not as if Harry rips his shirt off and tells Samael to let off some steam.

To be fair, they're thinking about the fashion of a 17 year old lower middle class girl in the early 2000s. Puffy vests and turtlenecks and denim were still cool back then.

it's a payphone

>I was born in 2004

Vincent probably

ITS NOT A TOOMAHH!!!

ok so it's so you can't steal the phone?

No.
I'm not asking to stirr shit, I'm genuinely trying to understand the differences between homage/reference/ripping off.

...

You. Are. Wrong.

I like large, outer layer clothing over bare skin

...

user, Just like the gun Merchant in RE4 it's actually an underground network of many people posing as one individual allowing them to be in multiple threads at diffirent times. They can give you the goods, anytime, anyplace.

Oh god... That face... OwO

How old are you, man?
Mind blown, famdongus.

Resi 2 put a bunch of deloreans in it and Mr Beans Mini Cooper. My point is... You tell me user.

Deloreans are actually cars, for the record.

why is everything shaking?

software mode looks better.

They fuckin knew user. They knew what they had going with Heather from the moment they let the girl devs take over.
They knew in a world of Lara Crofts and Jill valentines that this freckly grumpy godess would steal all of our dicks.

you watch him too?

never knew he had shit taste

He's semi popular here. He's posted his channel in shill threads before.

t-those slightly parted l-lips!!

Because Silent Hill is actually hell.

delet this

>Vincent whips out his dick
>Heather asks him to put it away
>"It looks like a dick to you?!"

A-user A-ARE YU SURE??!

>why is everything shaking?
PS1 tech limitations.
In short, PS1 draws 3D polygons using mere 2D grid data. The Vertices, that is the corner points of triangles (polygons) are placed and moved within 320x240 sized 2D grid, with no interpolation and sub-pixel accuracy.

This is fine at the PS1´s native resolution, 320x240, as the vertices only appear to move 1 pixel at the time, but as you increase the rendering resolution, this lack of sub-pixel accuracy becomes more and more apparent. At 2x resolution, that is 640x480, the vertices need to make 2 pixels wide jumps if the scene / character moves around, and at 1280x960 (4x res), it´s already 4 pixel jumps.

On top of that, PS1 couldnt do Perspective Correction on textures, resulting those wavy textures when seen from an angle.

Just recently we first got the GTE Accuracy Hack for PCSX-R, that improves the sub-pixel accuracy of 3D models in PS1 games, and now the new PGXP, that also adds Perspective Correction.

This.

l-lewd official render incoming....

unf

I know you user. You are just ashamed to admit that you wanted them to be plain cotton white panties all along. This just confirmed your fantasies, so to get more you respond with "no... Plz stop" for more. You are quite peverted, aren't you?

That's Heather?

Not quite, it´s Cheryl

I SAID DELET THIS!

Yes at least, left in the hands of the team that bought you Shattered Memories. I needed muh Heather fix but at 25, she does not mess her hair. Does not dye it. And she wears the kind of cloths that girl you liked at school wears now but oh no, it turns out she likes girls now and why does this keep happening to me, why do i like girls who wanna be tomboys and kiss other girls??

official? where does it come from?

Few reasons:

1. SH2 was already very good looking. They had experience with one game so they improved the sequel.

2. Every room is loaded separately, allowing mass detail for the room.

3. The noise filter, darkness and fog hide a lot of the graphics.

4. More detail in the character models than anything else, especially the faces.

Shattered Memories.

Im sure you do user do you fantasize user? imagine Pleasentries? Exchanges between the two of you? Fucking you?

In what context was that made for official purposes?

>4. More detail in the character models than anything else, especially the faces.
there´s tons of very fine details even in the environments though. Sure, it appears way lower res at times for being spread on a larger surface than usual, on top of being made during 480p era.

DELET REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

See

it is in the game. For story reasons.

Because you grew up with video games that had to make female characters tomboyish in order to participate in the action gameplay, and that didn't have the technology to render feminine symbols like long hair and skirts.

sauce? I want nice concept art at good quality

effort and love

>sexualising muh daughter

That will be all user. We are done here.

SH:SM promos / concept art

meh. it's not really heather

FOR OUR DICKS ANONS. THE WESTERN DEVS, WITH NO GRACE EXPLOITED THE HEATHER MASON EFFECT WITH NO FOREPLAY.

>they were so preoccupied with if tgey could, they never asked themselves, if they should.

I know that feel. Considering Shattered Memories is a reboot.

>didn't have the technology to render feminine symbols like long hair and skirts.
u wot?

>5 pixels
wooooooooow

this design doesn't look bad, looks more clearly related to harry mason to me

But i love them user. I love them lesbeans.

>2010

>implying you need more than that to jack off
kids these days with their free, fast streaming 4K porn, I tell ya! Back in MY days...

PGXP is pretty impressive. It not only makes everything looks better but creepier as well.

I have some VERY spoiler news for you user, so be careful before you read this...
Ok... user. That is actually Heather's mother. A complete sexy hoe. Thats right. That is Dhalia, you didnt think Heather got those cute looks out of thin air, did you? Dhalia. Was. a. Slice. Of. Fuckberry pie.

Yeah all that we need is 5 pixels with sh 2-3 graphics no shit.

>tifa's skirt doesn't have inside or bottom polys
>her legs stop right at the skirt line

Man, the jump from 7 to 8 was crazy.

fucking FFVIII disabling rotation when you use Scan on Selphie

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
ITS TOO LATE, I ALREADY FAPPED FIRST OH GOD WHHHYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Praise steam for mods.

>in the bed with Dahlia
>you're both hot and sweaty
>just about to stick it in
>you can feel her wet heat, you're pushing in
>when she leans to whisper breathily in your ear:
>"this was foretold by gyromancy"

You can't protect her anymore Harry, You're Dead!

clearly who ever made the mountains of sad Heather porn also thought like this. They all involve cash for sevices in horrible motels...

Lisa... I'm sorry...
youtube.com/watch?v=KIaI4fCR3K8

Ok I just finished SH1 last night so I will be starting 2 or 3 on ps2. Question is, should I play on crt with 's video or on HDTV with component?

I actually made an f-list profile based around Heather doing whatever she had to do to get by without her daddy.

CRT tv. 640x480 is the ideal way. It's perfect.

thats cool and all but it would take a long time to make a updated model of every character and monster in the game. and I'm not even sure how well they will look compared to the backgrounds. I don't think anybody would want to update the backgrounds either if they even can.

Great art design.

How do you guys manage to still have your old consoles? I had snes, genesis, ps1 & 2 and they're all long dead.

Do you really need an answer?

I didnt say this was SH3 concept art user, its for Shattered memories, this is "cheryl" Heather Mason. But its basically the irginal plan! See this cool SH3 docu where they show the orginal heather concept art! Same style.

youtu.be/7f6EWqCscyc

They already did most models user. the mod was in developement since the pc release. There's even a godawful mod with advent child models. But that's true about backgrounds and only the models from screenshot look good on them, anything more complex looks like shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=6LB7LZZGpkw
youtube.com/watch?v=6qalGezr76o

Is SH2 as good as the soundtrack?

Whenever I listen to it I get the urge to play the game and I've never played a SH game before. Dunno why but I skipped them during my PS1 and PS2 days.

Should I get the HD collection or is it possible to emulate it on PC?

Well this is my 3rd ps2 and I haven't played it in well over a year so I am hoping it still works. I'm going to open it up and clean the lens and contacts before trying it.

Kek.

the ps1 and ps2 i can understand, but how did you managed to kill the snes and genesis?

See Do Not play the hd remasters. They are notorious for being some of the worst remakes ever.

PS1 had some games that did perverse things with 3D assets.

The hip hop elements in the OST of 2 are Nujabes level and so is the game.

I play on HDTV with component and sit far enough away. I also wear good headphones for super spooky scary.

Is comf bruh.

i played SH1 and then went right to 3. Im playing SH2 now, i heard 3 was the true sequel anyway and "muh dick" won the rest of the battle.

Heather is stronk user, she WILL make it. A Heather provides. >:3

I had them since 1997. They just don't respond to naything since 2001 and 2003 I think. And I played ps and pc mostly so it's not that I overused them or something.

Has this kinda shit been fixed yet on SH2 PC?

I really wish the higher quality sound effects and fog complexity from the PS2 version could be brought over.

Vagrant Story's goddamn beautiful, probably the best looking 3D game on the system.

To be fair it's only one of possible looks. This isn't really helping, is it?

>that webm
And Petition Compiling lardass Cuckold Race creamed their pants over that piece of shit Half-Life 2 and MUH REELISTUK FACES MUH ANIMATION
Fucking PC shitters

>not using CRT for max comfy

There's an option for complex fog in sh2 from the guide link but I needed to turn it on every time I ran the game.

Because HL2 employed actual lip-sync from audio files, not carefully hand tuned variety.

i see. I guess i underestimated the fan base for FF7.

I'm so glad mallgoth/scene/rave subcultures have died down.

That's pathetic.
I had the NES since 1990 and it still works

post links

Have you tried cleaning the pins on both consoles and games? Might just be dirty. Old consoles almost never die short of physically breaking them.

That's not threads of fate or megaman legends 2. Not to mention all 3d games were ugly on ps1 and even now when emulating n64 3d games look better. But ps1 had more good looking games in general.

>Still need to try the room.

It has the best girl.

I still have all my old video game junk and it all still works. its not that hard to take care of your stuff. I never understood why used games would always be so messed up compared to my owned games.

So a PS4 pad wouldn't work with the game?

Love

just wanted to say halloween is my favorite time of year, and i really appreciate this user. Thank you

Be careful, Heatherfags might try to murder you for that. I thought Eileen was cool though. The worst ending is my favorite so I don't even mind the escort shit.

And just to feel the difference.

>not carefully hand tuned variety.
This only strenghtens my respect towards team silent.

I believe ps4 uses direct input. Not positive though.

She looks like a green eyed Jill Valentine in this render.

Yes, just play the game. the music goes well with the scenes. It starts slow though. I didn't liek the game until the hospital.

Avoid HD collection.

user, not wanting a frumpy grumpy, messy Heather Mason to get real mad and just start yelling at you dick loudly untill you explode on er sweaty suddenly pacified face.

Anyway, Heather Morris was best vidya voice actor 4 girls. When Heather lost her shit and started yelling at people with impotent rage, i belived that shit. 10/10

I still find it hard to believe this is a PS1 game.

True.

effort

Wasn't there some Hebrew writing on one of the toilets?

Those games just like Legacy of Kain for example are known to not work with modern controllers.
I have a DS4 and used Xmapper for them.

If I wanted an angry Mexican woman yelling at me I'd hire an underpaid maid.

>Lisa Ortiz also voiced Amy Rose
This bish hot tho.

LoK1 worked just fine for me but fore LoK2 and defiance I had to use xpadder with new xbone controller.

Too bad she's a fucking drag in the game

This is a nice thread and everything but let's not forget who the real best girl is

>lazy summer day
Exactly my thoughts. Returning home from a day at the beach with friends, listening to the radio on the bus during your way home as the weather changes from a clear orange sky to a moody rainy fog

Its not very cute user. Most of it involves shady locations, a dirty hoodie or er naked body and soft hair puss covered in a combo of jisim and dollar bills... You're gonna search them, aren't you?

Why do all of these edits make Heather look like a goddamn crack fiend

I don't know where that ass has been, but I want to penetrate it.

most user's head canon epilouge.

do you have any where heather gets really desperate and lonely and is forced to get a regular fucking job?

Why the fuck did sexy grotesque nurses take off like they did? It's like every western incarnation of Silent Hill tries harder than the last to make the nurses even sluttier and ickier for some reason.

They can't be that desperate for titties in video games

>most
Speak for yourself.

Because it's the only part of Silent Hill the west did right.

>implying the UFO ending of SH3 isn't canon

The SH saga ends with Harry and the oofos finally wiping that shit-stain town off the face of the earth.

Slutty cosplayers.

In my restless dreams,
I see that game.

Siren 3

No, really. Project Siren is the last bastion of horror games.

>1 has the best story and horror but the most bullshit level designs and puzzles
>2 is basically like 1 but they just give you hints for everything
>Blood Curse is just a dull casualised version of 1

I fucking love Siren but it feels like they never really nailed it.

But user, just look how she plays with her curls in front of the detective. She wants tired middle aged men to make her squeal, why not get paid for it and get fucked up with them.....

its absolutley not what i want for Heather either... ;_;

Id actually like Heather to come back for a sequel, where she is well adjusted to normal life but ya know, silent hill innit.

I think a more interesting version of Heather would have been to have a backstory prior to SH3 of wild child, drug taking, red cups at parties where two chads explode on er face, then "daddy" has to make an intervention and save her. Giving us the sweet yet "serious anger issue/personality disorder Heather we know and love.

>It's like every western incarnation of Silent Hill tries harder than the last to make the nurses even sluttier and ickier for some reason.
thank The Movie and the western sequels for that.

Apparently you really gotta rub it into typical Burger´s face in order for them to understand the "implied symbolism" of things. And then they became sort of "mascots" for the series, quite like the PH and his RAPERAPERAPE behavior.

Ah, a fellow KnickKnack follower, I see!
>tfw spent whooping 5 minutes with her over a decade ago, in a
SHF´s chat room

Yeah. 1 is extremely hard to get into, but when you "get" it, it becomes extremely good. 2 lost a part of that charm a bit and became less scary, but it was still pretty good, and its monster design is fucking superb.

Blood Curse felt like a tech demo. The graphics and art design was awesome (at the cost of 10 FPS), but it was just lacking. But crawling through the Shibito house as the girl was still as scary. I don't know why, but I could barely do it, both in 1 and BC. Couldn't handle the tension.

Nonetheless, all three games have a lot of attention put into them, something you don't see today. I feel like if they're given enough budget, time and freedom, Siren 3 on PS4 could be great.

user... Dont you realise?
Your oofoo ending playthrough is Heather day dreaming after the events of silent Hill. She arrives back to the place where her loving father was murdered. A broken Hearted Heather stares at a spot on the wall hard, and creates a fantasy where aliens and her dad are "real kewl dudez" who destroy silent hill and live with her forever.

;_;

>Silent Hill 1.5
>you play as Harry beating up chads and old men that want to fug his daughter
>basically just Streets of Rage in Silent Hill

...but Blood Curse WAS the S3, wasnt it?

That being said, played it myself few years ago, and really didn´t like it. Very obscure and strict "mission objectives" at times, super cant-see-shit-captn- visuals caused by mix of many annoyances, and WTF was up with that ending??

S1 I couldn´t stomach more than an hour or so, thanks to that awful English dub and over convoluted controls at times.

I'm wise to your tricks you God damn mutt. You can't deceive me any more.

>but when you do...

This. And i first played it last year. My first ever SH. I though the skinned dogs were fake and gay, but then the first time the school went "otherworld" on me, shit got real interesting. Now with addedd Heather booster, SH3 is my favorite and one of my all tyme best vidya.

It's called the "diorama trick," just like Alien: Isolation and The Order 1886.

It's really easy to make immaculate, fantastic looking games when all of your environments are dark, linear, man-made interiors.

>1 is extremely hard to get into, but when you "get" it, it becomes extremely good.

Right?

On first playing it I thought it was kinda stupid how you go back and forth between all the characters, like it wasn't scary because you couldn't get invested in anybody's story. But after a while you get to know them, and they start dying etc, you're immersed in a different way, you can see this whole scenario unfolding in front of you. You know how in horror stories, Lovecraft and such, there's often the scholar character who studies the ancient evil lore and goes mad from the revelations? That's who you feel like as you play Siren. I think they really lost that by making Blood Curse just a straight set of levels.

Yeah, that ~ My Neighbors The Shibitos ~ level was fucking crazy.

>dat feel when Blood Curse was actually censored in the US and only released digitally

You have to import the physical EU version for proper experience.

No, it's a remake/reimagining of the first game.

If you don't like it, well, it's not for you. Siren is one of the few seriesI truly consider as "not for everyone". There are loads of problems with the games but they just have this kind of atmosphere, plot and feeling of dread while playing I didn't see anywhere else.

I think the last Siren game was actually the only legitimately enjoyable one I played. First two feel as if they were made clunky on purpose because devs thought that would make them scarier.

>game is dark as fuck
>you have a flashlight
>light attracts the immortal shibito
So you basically have to dick around in darkness and try to figure out where to go or fight all the time.

Oh god, pliz.

And lets face it, Heather is the bad "punky girl" that Chads pretend to bully but later cry as they cheat on their hot cheerleader girlfriends, exploding deep inside Heather at the same time confused and horny...
"Justice".

Her cold uncaring face when. She knows what all the boys really want user.

Is Harry the world's best dad?

Also I need to get around to finishing SH4 sometime. I got to the final area years ago but I never finished it for some reason

No it doesn't.

It's a very simple game.

>Is Harry the world's best dad?

He's also the only original protagonist who just wandered into a Silent Hill situation with apparently no baggage of his own. Even got a new daughter out of.

Best dad who raises best daughter.

Considering the wealth of fucked up shit the two of them go through to inadvertently save the world, they are pretty high up there in my book.

best scene in the game, best theme in the game, 10/10 cry sad time moment, mfw

World's best dead, more like.

Can I just play the original PS2 versions? I have SH3 on PS2 but I never got around to it. I think my console still works..

Why/how does Harry get sucked into the Silent Hill otherworld in the first place? Or Cybil for that matter? Isn't it implied that everything is relatively "normal" in the real world, which they leave the moment they crash in SH?

Deffo best dad.

At one point, early on, he nearly rage quit on bany Heather terrified she was the cute, litiral spawn of satan. Keeps going anyway. Not his blood, but e looks after er.
Does not even boner when she goes to the shop all dressed up with orange turtle neck and pale legs, cuz that wut gud "im not rly ur dad, dammit!"s do.
When he died...In the end, all he had was that chair and a cute daughterfu about to come home.

F ;_;7

Alessa's powers and shit. They were seeing HER crazy shit, not their own demons like later games would do.

That scene. Every time. Harry is flexible as fuck.

user.

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Probably some guy who was obsessed with Alessa at a young age, or a shoutout to Heather's boy troubles.

>Can I just play the original PS2 versions?
Sure. It´s in many ways the "definitive" version, being the original.

I just really, really recommend starting with SH1, if ya haven´t already played it. You pretty much need to finish it before even considering SH3. Release order = best order.

If you ever get an urge to play SH games at UHD quality or on the go, the PC ports are the way to go. The SH2´s port even has that Director´s Cut -only "Born From A Wish" bonus scenario

Mfw Allessa is basically meant to be a ps1 version of Heather Mason...

>obsessed with Alessa at a young age
Considering Alessa's version of the school (especially in Nowhere) it's safe to assume the only one "obsessed" with her was her batshit insane mom. Especially for about half of her life.

>Heather's boy troubles...

p-please continue a-user?!!

when you think about it, Harry had to raise his daughter twice

>we will never get a SH1 remake in the style of REmake
T-thanks Konami.

For me, it's always like this.

There is no "real world" and "Otherworld".
It´s all happening in OUR world, which is being changed and corrupted by a strong psychic power.

In SH1, the "god" growing inside Alessa kept her alive, with mere half a soul at that, for 7 years, and fed her nightmare while at it, all while also living a nightmare behind hospital´s locked doors. When her soul was made whole again, the mental projections went haywire, and started taking over the entire planet. Alessa actually tried to stop this in her own way, both by spreading Seals of Metatron, and by helping Harry. Everyone was experiencing Alessa´s own nightmares becoming alive.

Afterwards, the town´s area & its natural "power" was left very unstable, pretty much resulting auto-pilot mental projections out of anyone.

Bacon strip tiddy?

I'm just glad they're finally done with Silent Hill after a decade of inferior outsourced sequels.

Yeah square enix's plan for VIII was apparently to create the most beautiful game ever

>I'm just glad they're finally done with Silent Hill after a decade of inferior outsourced sequels.
Oh you wish.
Just like they´re "continuing" MGS, they are also "continuing" SH.

they got much closer to achieving that with IX though.

>You pretty much need to finish it before even considering SH3.

Not true. I've played all the Silent Hill games except SH1, and SH3 is my favorite in the series.

SH3's otherworld is Claudia's otherworld, that's why the rooftop boss and her father are all rotten.

You have no idea what you have been missing.
And how much you have spoiled for yourself.

SH1 and 3 are very directly connected plot-wise.

Wouldn´t it make much more sense for those all to be of Heather´s ? As in she sees everything related to the cult and the killers as monsters? There´s also the whole Alessa connection.

really cool explanation

You can watch Return Of Jedi without seeing The New Hope too, but that would still be a mistake.

>Curodia, Curodia!

youtube.com/watch?v=X_eOpM7qQHo

agreeing with the other user that you have missed out on a fabulous game. You owe it to yourself to play SH1 and really drink in the game's psychotic atmosphere.

Seriously, nigga. Apply yourself. I hope you aren't the one who has been posting all this heather smut-talk without playing SH1. That'd be embarrassing.

what did she mean by this

Oh yes definitely. I have a PS2 emulator too so I have plenty of options to playing it. I have beaten SH1 plenty of time since I was little. I remember it was so spooky on my first playthrough that I only played it with my brother and his then girlfriend (I am the younger one) in the room during the day with a walkthrough..

I played SH2 PC for the first time last year. Streamed it for my girl while I yelped like a little bitch whenever I saw those spoopy mannequins and she helped me over voicechat with the puzzles.

I like Downpour

>I have a PS2 emulator too so I have plenty of options to playing it
PC ports > PS2 emulation. Just saying.
And out of all the PC ports, the SH3´s is the most perfect out of the box.

>having access to internet AND a dedicated helper when playing SH games for the first time
welp, now I feel old AND disappointed in youth!

Wait what? OUR world? Like the one with us in it? Whatcu talkin' 'bout Willis?

Guise, guise.

Why are Silent hill Threads with lots o Heather just so comfy? :3

The walkthrough was on a magazine... I'm 30 bruh. Sorry, I was (and still am to an extent) a big pussy when it comes to horror vidya/movies. Takes a man to admit that desu.

I see now who are the people that think sh was the best in series.

They certainly didn't tackle the shitty VA/dialogue with their chink work ethic.

how dare you

>OUR world? Like the one with us in it?
Yes. This planet earth.
No other dimensions. No "just illusions". Some real-deal, real-time 4D photoshopping of satanic kind.

>TS games
>shitty VAs
pick one.

>!
You had one job.

a-user? Are you okay?

Go back and listen to the dialogue and try not to laugh. I might just be worse than the movies.

Buddy, I love Silent Hill dearly and enjoy the VA work for what it is, but sometimes it was downright shit.

you're talking about SH1 breaking metaphysical reality into our world so back when the vidya came out the actual world was being engulfed by nightmares. Do I get this right?

I wanna get comfy with heather
if you know what I mean

>HUH. RADIO. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT RADIO...
>Everytime Dahlia shows up and Harry "Stoneface" Mason just goes "yeah cool btw did you see my daughter?"

It's endearing, truly.

Sorry, I´ve played the original 3 games over 25 times each already, and literally replay them annually. I still do not understand why´d you laugh at any lines in the series, even more so in 2 or 3.

The closest one to ever do that to me must´ve been SH4 and it´s "Are you alright?" line at the beginning.

It was NEVER as shit as in majority of late 90s vidya. Original Resident Evil and House Of The Dead take the cake on that, any day.

>Do I get this right?
....maybe?
If you´ve already played SH1-4 (and the others preferably too), just check this video:

youtube.com/watch?v=gvcs-9lSm64

You know, all things considered, SH1 has pretty good voice-acting, even if a few of Harry's line-readings come off as strangely stiff.

>Huh?! Radio! What's going on with that RADIO?

I was actually impressed, considering the time the game was made. Lisa's voice actress is a real stand-out in the game.

I'm still working my way through the series, but if that were the case wouldn't people have noticed an entire town's worth of population just disappearing?

And if it did spread beyond the town I think people would have noticed the world temporarily turning into an industrial gore-house Hellraiser world.

I just started watching his vids recently because it was posted in some youtube thread. Was surprised when they were actually pretty good.

I know a hot crack fiend girl. a 8/10 that has sex for $25. I could porbably only score a 4/10 at BEST legitimately with my looks. Making her a crack fiend makes her "accessible"

My uncle sold crack. None of those women were close to 8/10. $25 doesn't sound bad but it's still a crackhead.
Are you from Baltimore?