Give me back my money

Dylan Lee
Dylan Lee

give me back my money

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Colton Garcia
Colton Garcia

"backing" shit on "crowdfunding" sites

LMFAOing at your pathetic life, wish you'd get aids instead of a game to teach you fo real

Jace Collins
Jace Collins

They said it'll still be released, just that it's going to take longer than it should've. It's no big deal, have a bit of fucking patience.
And then get angry when it comes out and it's a piece of shit.

Julian Gray
Julian Gray

its ok, we have PREY

Jace Anderson
Jace Anderson

this is why you "back" them by buying their product

Joshua Carter
Joshua Carter

Ehh, it happens. Lots of non-crowdfunded games have development problems.

Landon Gutierrez
Landon Gutierrez

You're harsh (and maybe poor too?). There is some rare stuff that i would back just for a CHANCE for it to be made, even if shittily/slowly/never. Now, backing something like an AAA remake of an already great game, that's retarded.

Owen Wood
Owen Wood

Yesh but the point of crowfunding is to avoid those issues

Christian Turner
Christian Turner

Name one crowdfunded game that turned out good. I'll wait.

Jaxson Gutierrez
Jaxson Gutierrez

How much hookers & blow are they doing on their "hiatus" and where?

Justin Myers
Justin Myers

Skullgirls.

Nathaniel King
Nathaniel King

Shantae

Dylan Morales
Dylan Morales

Game
Game 2
Other Game
i sad GOOD games
now that that's out of the way. let's talk about how these people took money to make a simple remake and then ran away with the development to try and make something nobody asked for.

Isaiah Morgan
Isaiah Morgan

Wasteland 2

And before you say "I didn't think so", guess what, I can pull the opinion card too.

Samuel Morgan
Samuel Morgan

Shovel Knight

Jason Gomez
Jason Gomez

FTL

Wyatt Torres
Wyatt Torres

Project management and development problems usually aren't related to the funding source.

Brody Ross
Brody Ross

Original Sin 1/2

Dylan Morales
Dylan Morales

I've backed 3 tg related kickstarters and they all missed their self imposed deadline some by even YEARS (Call of Cthulhu 7th edition's KS was botched so bad it got people fired.) Actual professionals fucked up making a book with words.

I can't even imagine backing videogames with the greater costs and time it takes to make them.

Shovel Knight, Shantae, A Hat in Time but its a real fucking short list. the number of failures outweighs the number of success by a good percentage.

the first big warning sign to me was when they announced they were changing the art style and stuff and it started looking like Prey and shit.

Andrew Garcia
Andrew Garcia

Pillars of Eternity.

Asher Flores
Asher Flores

Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Luis Collins
Luis Collins

I said GOOD

Jonathan Rodriguez
Jonathan Rodriguez

it's on hiatus, goy.
not cancelled.
wait tm for it.

Anthony Price
Anthony Price

They usually turn out alright for localizing games, specially visual novels.

Caleb Collins
Caleb Collins

Grim Dawn

Caleb Butler
Caleb Butler

here's your (YOU)

Kayden White
Kayden White

november backer update last year is where you could tell they were going somewhere completely different and fucking it up.

instead of simply remaking the levels in new tech they started in with the 'artistic license' bullshit talk about "what did this level express" and the "essence of the game" instead of just saying "look guys it looks just like the original game but better graphics." what a waste of time and resources and especially backers' money, and since there's no actual process to control the money like standard venture rounds everybody is fucked.

Jayden Lee
Jayden Lee

giving money to scamstarter
kill yourself retard

Aiden Carter
Aiden Carter

They dont have to

Luke Jones
Luke Jones

Its one of those cases where they had a lot of private funding and got small amount trough crowdfunding.

Mason Nguyen
Mason Nguyen

well user just wrecked you fags. guess he's done here.

pic related, he needs to finish

William Turner
William Turner

Undertale

Lincoln Bennett
Lincoln Bennett

Okay, name a good game or two so we can try to figure out what your standards are

Hunter Peterson
Hunter Peterson

Backed Barkley 2

Christian Gutierrez
Christian Gutierrez

Crowdfunding was born to be a good thing, but the lack of control has become rampant and people are clearly not capable of dealing with the workload they set for themselves. Those websites should be legally binding in some way, shape or form. Else people will just keep running away with the money.

Videogames are far from the most scummy things being made on kickstarter.

Jackson Gomez
Jackson Gomez

Skullgirls wasn't crowdfunded, they got millions from a publisher and then after the game was done just begged the fans for additional money to make extra characters. They didn't have much space to fuck up with that.

Leo Richardson
Leo Richardson

hollow knight

Hunter Phillips
Hunter Phillips

Still wouldn't have gotten made without crowdfunding.

Ian Brooks
Ian Brooks

that project is deader than my sex life

Cameron Hernandez
Cameron Hernandez

give me back my money
The dev is literally Jewish

Jaxson Phillips
Jaxson Phillips

game
but game is shit! You can't prove me wrong

Christian Sanders
Christian Sanders

I’m still waiting

Tyler Foster
Tyler Foster

I remember watching a recent update where they talked about a reception area for a hospital and I thought, "neat"
Then I actually played the first SS and realized there was something terribly wrong with that
Luckily I have no money in it, but I will check it out IF it actually gets finished

Easton Perry
Easton Perry

Can't you still download System Shock Portable for free? Or was that taken down when it was released on GOG/steam?

Jaxson Lee
Jaxson Lee

Backing a kickstarter

You deserve what you got faggot

Connor Robinson
Connor Robinson

Nah, its still up

Noah Bell
Noah Bell

lul

this is why i dont support ks out of all the projects that i could see myself giving money only 2 delivered the full thing

also this reboot looks like absolute shit, not really a big fan of system shock myself but i thought anyone could see that, that it looks so poorly made i wouldnt want to play, apparently it is just me

Brayden Harris
Brayden Harris

psh nothing personnel kid, just taking a wrong path

Brayden Gomez
Brayden Gomez

Not spending your money on something that has a "chance" to be made =/= poor. It's just being smart lol.

Jordan Nguyen
Jordan Nguyen

yep

Carson Young
Carson Young

This. You would think these retard would learn something after all of the horror stories, but i guess you can never underestimate stupid.

Brody Nguyen
Brody Nguyen

i think shadowrun turned out okay
game 1 has a reference to that faggot kluwe 5 minutes into the game

Jace Gonzalez
Jace Gonzalez

I 100% will admit that even with the creation of good games from, crowdfunding is gigantic cancerous failure. I don't or can't care anymore about all the "what could have been" if crowdfunding was not available. If cuphead can get made with out it, you can lie/cheat/steal your way to making a game too with out crowdfunding.

Adam Ortiz
Adam Ortiz

Demand it from them, not from here.

Mason Myers
Mason Myers

tfw I've only backed Little Witch Academia and Hyper Light Drifter
Who else /discerning consumer/ here?

William Sanchez
William Sanchez

A Hat in Time

Jacob Rodriguez
Jacob Rodriguez

Shit like this is why I stopped kickstarting games.

I just kickstart toys now

Brandon Rivera
Brandon Rivera

buying toys as an adult
r u a paedo

Alexander Young
Alexander Young

Any merit in going back to play the original?

Lucas Bell
Lucas Bell

Once you get over the controls it's pretty fun
Worth at least one playthrough imo

Liam Wood
Liam Wood

level design update last november
hey guys look we made the levels kinda similar!
HOWEVER
we decided to do this and this and change this because reasons

Ian Green
Ian Green

Nothing wrong with being an adult collector.

but yes

Ian Thomas
Ian Thomas

its ok, we have PREY
Yeah, another cheap piece of shit for blind retards which can't see second-hand nature of game. Garbage collector simulator.

Gabriel Barnes
Gabriel Barnes

Hollow knight is fucking amazing

Carter Barnes
Carter Barnes

That's kickstarter slang for "we ran out of money and are never releasing anything". Get a clue.

Daniel Turner
Daniel Turner

Torment: Numenera

That sure turned out good, didn't it?

Ayden Nguyen
Ayden Nguyen

MODS

Charles Sanchez
Charles Sanchez

Honestly i lied the direction they were taking with it even it wasnt like that ugly blue demo.

Gabriel Brooks
Gabriel Brooks

its not your money anymore.

Eli Hill
Eli Hill

not how investments work
you pay and pray you make a profit

Eli Cruz
Eli Cruz

Don't forget that there's also System Shock 3 in the works, wasn't interested in the reboot anyway

Brayden Reyes
Brayden Reyes

The scam to legit ratio in kickstarter is ridiculous, nice straw man comic.

Tyler White
Tyler White

Expeditions: Conquistador

Leo Roberts
Leo Roberts

HERO - Monster Girl Quest 3D

Justin Peterson
Justin Peterson

What is "the wrong path"? Aren't they just straight-up remaking the game or did they change the gameplay to be more accessible or whatever and realized it sucked?

Benjamin Price
Benjamin Price

No, you said "good".
And you were answered manyfold.

But you chose to be a retard and simply respond retarded to any and every answer with the implication that none of these highly rated and successful games are good, like a dumb retard.
inb4 responding to bait, U mad, hurf durf

Joshua Walker
Joshua Walker

The Banner Saga

Daniel Thompson
Daniel Thompson

Mighty Number 9
Yuka Laylee
Ouya
Broken Age
Red Ash
The Arkh Project
Yoggcast
Clang
Double Fine
Mansion Lord
The Stomping Land
Code Hero
Xeko
Greed Monger
Unforgotten Quest
Forsaken Fortress
Limit Theory
Tornado Maker
Unwritten
DCS WWII Europe 1944
Rocket Ranger Reloaded
Zombie Playground
Two Guys Spaceventures
ROAM
TUG

Michael Hughes
Michael Hughes

Grand theft auto 5

Asher Lopez
Asher Lopez

Kingdom Death Monster
Gloomhaven

Liam Butler
Liam Butler

And this is EXACTLY why I don't do crowdfunding. Last year, one of my favorite bands did an Indiegogo campaign for a new album. I didn't contribute because crowdfunding. Sure enough, a few months ago, the guitarist's mother died, and they're just now letting us know that the album is 'on hold.'

If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

David Phillips
David Phillips

Yeah, but it was not an investment, it was a purchase of a chance that the game will release.
Kind of like a lottery, except even moreso than with normal games, where you only gamble on the game being not overhyped and overmarketed shit.

Caleb Cruz
Caleb Cruz

Shit is going down in kickstarter.

Jaxson Bailey
Jaxson Bailey

lottery dumb then, wait 'til game release and then return game if bad
console game
shit outta luck for returns

games are hard to make and hard to enjoy

Andrew Sanders
Andrew Sanders

double fine is not a game, and you included broken age which is by double fine.
correct your list, faggot.

Thomas Bell
Thomas Bell

Literally nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Kevin Morris
Kevin Morris

Broken Age is a little mediocre, but it's not terrible

Also Psychonauts 2 is probably gonna be pretty good since they have Wolpaw back for writing and mechanically the game already looks leaps and bounds better than the first

Liam Collins
Liam Collins

how hard can it be to remake i.4cdn.org/v/1519087713282.pngSystem Shock in Unreal Engine. the maps were like wolfenstein 3d with some slopes, either way, it was a cult game at best that only me and couple other people have ever played

Oliver Mitchell
Oliver Mitchell

You think you can develop that pictured game with 1.3 million dollars? And that's probably before taxes and reward fulfillment? LOL you threw your money into a gator pit because someone told you you would get 3 wishes

Ian Perez
Ian Perez

Send me $20,000 and I'll correct my list in 3-5 years.

Nolan Hill
Nolan Hill

hand a hobo money
hobo buy booze
M-My money!!

Angel Wright
Angel Wright

Shadowrun Returns had miles upon miles of problems, the most glaring one being that it was built around playing on a tablet before realizing post launch what a horrible idea that turned out to be. Dragonfall and Hong Kong was the studio learning from their lesson

Mason Cox
Mason Cox

not everything is triple a

Easton Parker
Easton Parker

If it sounds too good to be true, it is.
Crowdfunding does not sound all that good, chump.
Sure that is the sensible thing to do, the problem is, if there are only sensible people and nobody takes the risk, nobody will get the game eventually.

The risk is that the game might not release, or not be up to scratch, the reward is that there is a fairly high chance that you get a game you most certainly will not get otherwise.

Joseph Green
Joseph Green

You know, I'm not even sure what they want to do at this point. It says the following at the top

System Shock is a faithful reboot of the genre defining classic from 1994 built by a team of industry veterans. Remember Citadel

but then the update makes it sound like a remaster

Christopher Price
Christopher Price

Man, they should remake Bioforge and Alone in the Dark Trilogy

James Scott
James Scott

give me money so that I will not look like an idiot

Michael Flores
Michael Flores

Is Shadowrun Returns still worth the time?

Brandon Powell
Brandon Powell

this post

Connor Cruz
Connor Cruz

you don't get your full amount refunded so in the case of the game i dont get why you just wouldn't let it ride. your refund only would consist of a portion of any remaining funds proportional to your pledge amount minus an 8% transaction fee.

Caleb Powell
Caleb Powell

No one Said about Darkest Dungeon
A shame

Aiden Taylor
Aiden Taylor

No, just jump to Dragonfall and maybe Hong Kong.

Zachary Cooper
Zachary Cooper

This is the entire point.

They got way too much money on their hands and with freedom comes incompetence if you are not really fit for a job.

They started mindlessly adding their own vision into the project and got way over their heads until the money was over and nothing was really made.

Landon Perez
Landon Perez

Shovel Knight
That was DLC.

Nathaniel Williams
Nathaniel Williams

Let's be generous and say 800,000 dollars is left over after their kickstarter. That takes care of 1 or 2 people working out of their basement purely out of love, and then you better expect to wait 5 years minimum for a game. Once you get other employees involved and are paying wages, 1 million dollars disappears like fucking nothing. People don't realize how much games cost.

Michael Thompson
Michael Thompson

Turned out "WELL", not "good". Learn English.

Brody Lewis
Brody Lewis

People don't realize how much games cost.

Tyler Young
Tyler Young

He clearly meant "turned out a good game". You literally have the reading comprehension of a 6 years old.

Aiden Gray
Aiden Gray

I mean I've seen development costs for some games be less than 1.3mil (Chivalry Medieval Warfare) but this team had bit off more than they could chew with this project, they were trying to use an indie budget for a game that's critically acclaimed. They should of approach Sony or Microsoft for more funding, I don't know the internal issues they're experiencing but either it's problem with creative direction that the team disagrees with or it's related to finances, either way I think it was naive of the developers.

Nolan Thompson
Nolan Thompson

FTL

Nathaniel Garcia
Nathaniel Garcia

why not ? the most expensive thing would be paying for the creation / licensing of all the necessary textures/meshes/animations. which doesn't even come close to a million. you just use whatever baked in features are available from your engine and don't waste time and money writing shit like lighting systems / shaders / net code and its not hard at all. writing game code itself is pretty easy.

Camden Gutierrez
Camden Gutierrez

They all say that. It doesn't mean it's going to happen.

Luke King
Luke King

You sound like you haven't played it once. Keep it vague and people won't notice.

Easton Sullivan
Easton Sullivan

Barkley 2
STOP REMINDING ME

Alexander Williams
Alexander Williams

Don't forget this one

Henry Lewis
Henry Lewis

There is some rare stuff that i would back just for a CHANCE for it to be made
And that's what you did, and now it's not getting made. Guess you're a fucking loser on this one.

Samuel Baker
Samuel Baker

Freedom Planet

Jeremiah Taylor
Jeremiah Taylor

You sound like you haven't played it once. Keep it vague and people won't notice.
Garbage collector simulator.
That sounds pretty fucking spot on to me user, although he could have added water fountain simulator as well.

Bentley Price
Bentley Price

still trusting the crowdfunding meme
you have no one to blame but yourself

Ethan Williams
Ethan Williams

You you can't pick the good projects from the bad you really do have only yourself to blame. I've gotten about 6 great games from crowdfunding and only 1 mediocre game

Gabriel Morales
Gabriel Morales

Absolutely. If you liked Ultima underworld or similar games you're in for a treat.

Anthony Taylor
Anthony Taylor

I don't care about System Shock, BUT I AM MAD THAT THOSE ASSHOLES WHO WERE MAKING RIDES WITH STRANGERS DECIDED TO PUT OUT ANOTHER GAME WITH RWS MONEY

THOSE FUCKING CUNTS

Jacob Sanders
Jacob Sanders

they rebooted the project instead of finishing it on the scale they promised
already ran out of funds
WHY CANT THOSE NERDS HANDLE MONEY?

Jacob Morgan
Jacob Morgan

You forgot spacebase df9.

Caleb Martinez
Caleb Martinez

A half-assed bug-ridden shitfest of a game they preys on nostalgia and plays like shit.
Oh wait that's every other reply that isn't me. Guess I'm out of ideas.

Ian Williams
Ian Williams

kikestarter

Colton Watson
Colton Watson

give me back my money
why? kickstarter is not a pre-order system

Chase Price
Chase Price

Maybe post games that are actually good and that won't happen.

Brody Walker
Brody Walker

Friday the 13th is starting to shape up.

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