DEFEND THIS

Bentley Smith
Bentley Smith

DEFEND THIS

PRO TIP: YOU CAN'T

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Jaxon Barnes
Jaxon Barnes

he doesn't like free games

Sebastian Hall
Sebastian Hall

I can't. I pay it but I can't justify it. Strictly because the service you pay for is not up all of the time. What's the point in paying them if they don't use that money to keep their infrastructure stable?

Caleb Garcia
Caleb Garcia

free

Justin Lopez
Justin Lopez

#4thepayers

Ian Mitchell
Ian Mitchell

Free!* **

*after 5 small payments of $11.99
**also you can't keep them if you stop paying.

Zachary Sullivan
Zachary Sullivan

come here at noon to get a brand new car for free!
in order to get the free car you need to buy this $30,000 pencil

Thomas Smith
Thomas Smith

free
even though you're paying for them
and you can't play them if you let the service expire

Aiden Green
Aiden Green

pay money for a monthly subscription
they send me free stuff every month

Xavier Lewis
Xavier Lewis

Nintendo's doing it soon, Nintendofag

Carson Brooks
Carson Brooks

I work at a game store and steal the unused 7 days free trials from every case I can. I haven't payed for membership in 2 years

Xavier Torres
Xavier Torres

I can't and it's Microsoft's fault for starting it.

Jayden Morgan
Jayden Morgan

And I'll boycott it there too, retard.

Noah Taylor
Noah Taylor

You can just keep creating new psn accounts and have free unlimited ps plus by using the free trial

Kevin Taylor
Kevin Taylor

I love customers like you, you guys are keeping the buisness alive

Jaxson Taylor
Jaxson Taylor

Can one person here explain how they would run a network that connects millions of people simultaneously all over the planet for free? Do you fucking retards realize that the playstation network isn't just a box with an on and off switch?

Camden Murphy
Camden Murphy

Enjoy being restricted to physical copies and never having any friends.

Andrew Scott
Andrew Scott

they did it with the PS3

Aiden Lee
Aiden Lee

Wouldn't it be smarter and safer to just steal one 12-month subscription than constantly steal 7-day ones?
I feel like you have less of a chance of getting caught if you only take one a year than constantly steal them, then again I've never worked in a game store so I have no idea.

Joseph Price
Joseph Price

That's like saying Netflix has free tv shows.

Connor Collins
Connor Collins

Imagine that i'm also using the thinking emoji

Levi Ortiz
Levi Ortiz

free games work for me.
hurrdurr not free
I'm not paying the price the games are asking for, what are they if not free?

Gavin Myers
Gavin Myers

I know this is bait but it's not very high quality bait...
Oh wait it fucking worked.

Aaron Sanders
Aaron Sanders

2018
not wanting to pay for P2P connections

Matthew Green
Matthew Green

ps3 was also shut down for months at a time numerous times throughout the ps3's life, and was the subject of extremely frequent criticism. I don't think there's been a shutdown longer than a day or two on ps4 yet, and I haven't seen a single global shutdown of the service at all.

Eli Allen
Eli Allen

blame the 360 retards

Angel Robinson
Angel Robinson

you need to purchase it to actually use the code, otherwise it's worthless. i don't know the exact process but during the transaction process the cashier has to confirm something. when the purchase is complete you get a separate receipt confirming the activation of the card

Benjamin Myers
Benjamin Myers

retards took this bait even though it's posted every time

Cameron Baker
Cameron Baker

Are you retarded? If you set the account with a ps + as your main all your other accounts on the same console will be able to use its functions

Wyatt Moore
Wyatt Moore

Nigger I said the free trials that come in the game box, I'm not actually stealing anything of value.

Joshua Harris
Joshua Harris

dumbass

Parker Sanders
Parker Sanders

So how does PC do it? How did the PS3 do it?

Hudson Johnson
Hudson Johnson

Pretty sure you're exaggerating. The longest I remember it being down was about a month, once, and they gave people a free game because of it. Either Wipeout HD or Infamous, iirc.

Mason Martinez
Mason Martinez

free games

Dominic Fisher
Dominic Fisher

I dont

James Hall
James Hall

Free
You know, free doesn't exist, if you're getting them from the boxes that means the trial is included in the box price, which means you're still stealing

Lucas Mitchell
Lucas Mitchell

That was the 2011 shutdown. It was down for 2 months, globally. It also went down for a month in 2009 when a similar hacking/ddos hit them hard. That's when they gave out that "christmas gift".

Christian Rogers
Christian Rogers

Nigger, that's pretty cool. Couldn't they ban your console, though?

Daniel Price
Daniel Price

I cant and I wont. Infact I'm still disgusted to this very day that this is industry standard. Question is how do we get rid of it?

Jace Campbell
Jace Campbell

i pay 40 buks when the year goes on sale, reap the benefits and flash sales and not worry about it auto charging 15 bucks a month , get nifty titles for free once a momth i neber would've played anyway

Lincoln Richardson
Lincoln Richardson

Well fuck me. Still not that big a deal unless you're a CoD babby.

Wyatt Collins
Wyatt Collins

mfw got a 12 month subscription for only about 5 bucks

Jose Smith
Jose Smith

americans complain about paying for online games, want free shit all the fucking time
cant imagine a country with universal healthcare, basic universal income

Easton Jenkins
Easton Jenkins

Why did you specifically single out Sony? Is it OK when Microsoft and soon to be Nintendo does it?

Leo Taylor
Leo Taylor

stop paying. you're telling them it's okay. you're a rape victim that won't seek help

Zachary Wood
Zachary Wood

Ive literally never been held back from playing because servers were down. In fact xbox live seems to fuck up on the regular

Eli Clark
Eli Clark

It being down for a month was a pretty fucking big deal because it wasn't just games, it was all network connectivity to the psn, meaning if you hadn't, say, updated your netflix app? You couldn't use it for a month. You couldn't buy games digitally for a month, or download them. And that it goes down for a day or two is a significant improvement that everyone who goes "HURR DURR PAYING FOR THE SAME SHIT" conveniently ignores.

Jose Cox
Jose Cox

wow, it really is this easy to get (you)'s huh?

Connor Davis
Connor Davis

Does it go on sale every year? I got the "12 month sub +3 months free" a while back, but I had to actually call customer service because they tried to jew me out of it.

Samuel Morris
Samuel Morris

I don't, I never paid for psplus and never will.
I miss ps3 though, paying for online is a fucking scam

Juan Howard
Juan Howard

They've got me by the short and curlies because they're locking features out of games I buy if I don't pay them.

Bentley Bailey
Bentley Bailey

Yeah every year, usually around easter or sometimes july.

Jaxon Sanchez
Jaxon Sanchez

NIGGA. THOSE GAMES AIN'T FREE!

Parker Fisher
Parker Fisher

i know you probably dont drive but plus is closer to leasing

Gavin Howard
Gavin Howard

It's only $59.99USD for a whole year, and if you catch it during an Amazon sale it's even less than that. Even if you don't play PS4 games online that much you can still use it for discounts on the Playstation Store and play certain games for free each month you have an active Playstation Plus Subscription registered to your Playstation Network Account.

Mason Bennett
Mason Bennett

Anyone who leases a car is a fucking moron.

Easton Brown
Easton Brown

You can start by telling every single human person that has to go to work every day just to keep your servers online and functioning that they aren't necessary anymore because apparently everything on earth became self sufficient and we no longer need to pay for things to run?

Zachary Edwards
Zachary Edwards

OH NO NO NO

Aiden Adams
Aiden Adams

game costs $30
get game by not paying $30 for it, simply as a complement to the service i'm paying for separately
??? how is it not free. I'm not buying the game, i'm buying a service, and get the games without paying anything extra. free.

Aiden Gray
Aiden Gray

I thought it'd improve PSN, but it did fuck all for that. XBL improved over time thanks to the dosh.

Charles Ortiz
Charles Ortiz

That last part is fucking garbage too, on Xbox you get Games With Gold that's the same shit as PS+ "free" games but the difference is that even if you stop paying for Xbox Live Gold you get to keep the games

Kevin White
Kevin White

mfw got a 12 month subscription for only about 0 bucks

Cameron Gonzalez
Cameron Gonzalez

getting your water cut off when you're in the middle of a shower

Brayden Hughes
Brayden Hughes

the service
You mean the one that was optional on the PS3?

Aiden Morgan
Aiden Morgan

soon
pushed back to 2019 when it was supposed to happen in 2017
will be about $20 a year when it actually happens

David Robinson
David Robinson

Not when its a Used game that someone traded in. Not all of them work and we dont guarantee any DLC codes that are included with used games. I'm not opening new games and taking them out.

Justin Nelson
Justin Nelson

Microsoft did something right for once. Too bad they took two steps back with their dumbass Game Pass shit.

Colton Roberts
Colton Roberts

gaming chair
every
damn
time

Dominic Cruz
Dominic Cruz

What's wrong with gamepass?

Ryan Harris
Ryan Harris

You've been given a dozen examples why its not hard or expensive yet you insist on being retard lets recap
Steam is free and supports 2x the amount of people on PSN and Xbone combined
PS2 free online
Xbox paid online because microsoft are fucking jews
PS3 free online (and no the servers dont fucking crash because of people and stay down for a month they crash because Script kiddies and DDoSing will always be effective)
Wii free online
Wii U free online
Switch paid now because its standard
There is no excuse plain cut and dry its greed.

Carter Richardson
Carter Richardson

it was like a month, and they gave out infamous and little big planet. But they only gave those games out because they had to apologize for getting everyone who had a PS3 at the time's credit card info stolen.

Blake Taylor
Blake Taylor

its basically a car chair
it's designed with lower back support in mind

Jeremiah Baker
Jeremiah Baker

look crybabies

plus is worth it because 40 dollars a year gets you more cloud storage youd ever need for game saves, a console backup, online multiplayer, six new titles a month sometimes more included in your subscription. An extra 15 percent on nearly every discounted software on the psstore.
not sure why the butthurt poor come to v to bitch, odds are you dont have plus anyway.

Ryan Gomez
Ryan Gomez

ps3 was also shut down for months at a time numerous times throughout the ps3's life
Not months, the longest was a couple weeks during the big hacking incident. Even so, you act as if PS4 online has never, ever gone down or has ever had server-sided connection errors during its lifetime which is just ignoring reality.

Andrew Perry
Andrew Perry

Holy shit

Benjamin Martin
Benjamin Martin

At least it's not XBL

Sebastian Watson
Sebastian Watson

Switch paid now because its standard
They just gave everyone another year of free online by pushing back the first billing date

Lucas Thomas
Lucas Thomas

buy only single player games then. GG EZ, NO RE

Bentley King
Bentley King

Sony didn't come up with it first

Ethan Phillips
Ethan Phillips

Steam also doesn't provide matchmaking servers for these games like Xbox does.

Evan Richardson
Evan Richardson

Steam also doesn't provide matchmaking servers
Holy shit this guy doesn't know what he's even talking about!

Sebastian Walker
Sebastian Walker

So make the cloud storage an optional feature to pay for
I can do that already for free on external devices
Yea because PS+ is mandatory for that faggot
And if I dont want those 6 indie games every month?
those discounts always existed they are now exclusive to PS+ though. in fact sales have been worst since PS+ was mandatory for PS4
ur poor lol

Every fucking time.

Camden Jenkins
Camden Jenkins

Been doing it for 2 years and nothing happened

Julian Johnson
Julian Johnson

You can't play those games after your sub runs out, unlike Gold.

Adam Perry
Adam Perry

Holy fuck that happened in 2009. Fuck that feels like not 5 years ago.

Cameron Foster
Cameron Foster

get a PS4
cant play online like the PS3 for free
have to pay a subscription
decide not to

Yeah, is just 5 or 6 burritos a month, but forcing a service annoys the hell out of me. More when i pay for a game and then cant use part of the content due to a wall, more walls with shitty dlc policies

Fuck Microsoft to starting this trend with damn sheeps following behind. Even Nintendo will be doing the same, ffs.

You mean rental. Sure, it is neat, but there will be a point the service will go down and those games you "had"(the rentals) will also go down.

Samuel Johnson
Samuel Johnson

giving your credit/debit card to a company with a history of security issues

Jaxson Nelson
Jaxson Nelson

Imagine if steam were to
suddenly ask for a subscription to play online, that'd be hilarious

Adam Cooper
Adam Cooper

it prevents a lot of kids from being able to play online because not all parents would pay for that, plus rewarded games, server maintenance, storage and VoIP services are provided for literally the price of one Starbucks coffee per month

I don't even own a PS4
but even a teamspeak server is around that price for a shitty VoIP service.

Owen Adams
Owen Adams

They would never get what they expect since there are millions upon millions of poorfags who use steam.

Evan Allen
Evan Allen

In your head maybe that sounded smarter

Connor Phillips
Connor Phillips

it would be paid mods round 2

Henry Gonzalez
Henry Gonzalez

Make it a separate fee

And I dont drink coffee so what now nigger?

Anthony Moore
Anthony Moore

Implying companies actually use Xbox's shitty servers
Implying companies wouldn't rather use host system's or custom high refresh rate servers
Implying Steam doesn't offer matchmaking systems

Bentley Ward
Bentley Ward

discounts

Which is kinda insane. Even the Plus discounts arent worth compared to the PS3 time.
In fact, if you compare the sales on the PS3 with the PS4, it still is WAY worth to buy the PS3 version for sale than the PS4 version

Mason Jones
Mason Jones

I'm simply stating that the services are relatively cheap for consumers

Also what exactly do you mean by make it a separate fee?

Austin Lopez
Austin Lopez

Just looking at how many of my IRL friends who have Steam accounts. 90% of them actually bought like 2-3 games and only play f2p games.

Christopher James
Christopher James

xboners have to pay for Xbox live
PC users get the same multiplayer experience for free
Xbox users still put up with being charged a monthly fee

theverge.com/2015/3/9/8175279/xbox-live-windows-10-free-multiplayer-gaming

Zachary Robinson
Zachary Robinson

You know that's the most expensive one right? Unless you're a full blown NEET you won't need online for 12 months.

Isaiah Reed
Isaiah Reed

Literally have Killer Instinct and Halo 5 just for owning a shitty operating system

Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

Rentals

Liam Davis
Liam Davis

well, because they already have the operating system

Isaac James
Isaac James

Genuinely don't understand what you just tried to say but if I take a stab, none of it fucking made sense and you're fucking retarded.

Isaac Adams
Isaac Adams

this

Owen Sullivan
Owen Sullivan

Setup VoIP servers that can be bought and paid for monthly

Benjamin Scott
Benjamin Scott

Unless, you want to play online at least once a month.

William Moore
William Moore

1 month or 3 months is much better than buying the full 12 months.

Anthony Carter
Anthony Carter

OG Xbox was paid online because at the time all of those console networking features like unified account systems, friend invites, console-wide voice chat, parties, account messaging, etc. were brand new for consoles. Shit not even PS2 had that kind of stuff, it wasn't until PS3 that Sony made PSN to compete with Xbox Live, back then it was actually reasonable to pay for a premium service like that.
Not defending current jew tactics, just trying to put things in perspective since most of you guys either never experienced it or weren't even around during that generation.

Joshua Foster
Joshua Foster

free
inb4 I was merely pretending to be retarded!

Bait or not, you are a retard.

Logan Ross
Logan Ross

external HDD cost money dumbass so if thats your main problem with plus youre back to square 1 here

Carter Thompson
Carter Thompson

Sony knows no bounds

Jayden Howard
Jayden Howard

wew lad

Matthew Mitchell
Matthew Mitchell

I get more than $60 worth of good free games I actually enjoyed from it.
For me its worth it.

Grayson Russell
Grayson Russell

sauce pls, reverse image search gives nothing

John Miller
John Miller

playing a game online at least once every month makes you a NEET
Nigger what?

Wyatt Jackson
Wyatt Jackson

Highway robbery.

Justin Hill
Justin Hill

That math does not add up. If I'm already buying like 5 years, why shouldn't I just spend less overall? Do you not understand how budgets work you fucking prune.

Joseph Brown
Joseph Brown

1 time vs a monthly/yearly fee
Wew your a fucking retard.

Camden Richardson
Camden Richardson

even at $0.01 it would be too expensive.

Luke Roberts
Luke Roberts

nintendo does it too so its ok

Charles Stewart
Charles Stewart

Consolefags love paying more for less.

Jonathan Martin
Jonathan Martin

he doesn't have spare hdd

Leo Miller
Leo Miller

""""""""""""free""""""""""""
games go away the second you stop paying
Enjoy Sony's cock in your ass

Angel Barnes
Angel Barnes

Unless you play in a boat during a storm its just RICE

James Williams
James Williams

Xbox and Nintendo have the same thing.

James Richardson
James Richardson

PS4fags and switchlets lap up paid online like good little goys
fanboys were a mistake

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