Foobar is just a music player

name one unique thing about f2k

He could release it under a liscense that only allows attributed use of the code and make it so that if people make money off the code they have to pay him. But he doesn't because it's a virus.

Even Google and MS open source Chrome and Edge.

This guy is just a chinese hacker.

>Even Google and MS open source Chrome and Edge

No they don't, you fucking retard.

>hes never heard of chromium

Google Chrome is not open source.

Chromium is not owned by Google.

Neither Google nor MS have open-sourced their web browsers.

You're being pedantic.

No, I'm not.

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>Even Google and MS open source Chrome and Edge.

Which is wrong

The horrible and barebones UI that shouldn't exist in the year of our lord and savior 8+500+500*2

>he literally didn't even use the basic layout editor that it forces you to use on your first time opening it
foobar can be riced to an insane level. Pleb.

It;s a virus though. There is literally no reason to keep the source closed unless it's virus

Year 1508?

>foobarcucks literally use
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you could as well as install iTunes; at least it's cross-platform

Show me one averse effect of having foobar installed on your machine.

>trolling the thread

>cross-platform
>doesn't run on Linux

INTO THE TRASH BUCKET

But yeah they are both chinese viruses so it doesn't really matter.

Daily reminder that Foobar2000 is just a UI hack that composes the following free libraries together:

FFmpeg
This software uses code of FFmpeg licensed under the LGPLv2.1 and its source can be downloaded here.

Apple Lossless Audio Codec
Copyright © 2011 Apple Inc. All rights reserved.
Licensed under Apache License 2.0.

Musepack decoding library
Copyright © 1999-2011 Buschmann/Klemm/Piecha/Wolf/MDT

WAVPACK Hybrid Lossless Wavefile Compressor
Copyright © 1998-2009 Conifer Software

libogg, libspeex and libopus libraries
Copyright © 2002-2013 Xiph.Org Foundation

FLAC - Free Lossless Audio Codec
Copyright © 2000-2009 Josh Coalson, 2011-2013 Xiph.Org Foundation

SuperEQ library
Copyright © Naoki Shibata, home page
Distributed under the terms of LGPL v2.1 - download source code

libebur128
Copyright © 2011 Jan Kokemüller

zlib general purpose compression library
Copyright © 1995-2010 Jean-loup Gailly and Mark Adler

UnRAR © Alexander Roshal

And probably also a botnet.

>8+500+500*2
>1508
>not even getting the math right

too bad nobody rices it anymore and wX fucks up transparency effects

this is objectively wrong

>if it doesn't adversely effect me it's not a virus

Do you want to call it malware then? It harvests your banking info and injects ads into your browser and desktop.

Do you ever get popups that say "Updates are available for this PC" or something similar?

It's part of the virus....

still, 2 platforms is better than 1
this; also why the codecs when ffmpeg has all that already? or if it's for encoding, isn't fb2k positioned as minimalist audio player?

too obvious m8
have to keep shit subtle

>implying there's even a good way of renaming music files based on in-filename tags like in foobar in any other music player (the automatic file renamer/mover that it has for organising music)
>implying there exists a music player that can play SACD or DVD-A ISOs like foobar

>this is objectively wrong
It's actually objectively right.

Let's look at other closed source software:

Windows 10:
>auto installs itself
>impossible to remove
>collects all your data including banking info

Chrome:
>collects all your data including banking info
>installs built in flash player to make flash exploits a piece of cake

If they keep the source closed it's probably a virus.

what about winrar tho

redpill me on my nvidia drivers
what are those bastards hiding

>>implying there's even a good way of renaming music files based on in-filename tags like in foobar in any other music player (the automatic file renamer/mover that it has for organising music)

Lots of programs do that.

>>implying there exists a music player that can play SACD or DVD-A ISOs like foobar

You can do this on unix with pipes

The author is trying to sell it. Not suspicious. Although it probably is a virus.

They're taking pictures of your twelve year old daughter changing after she showers. Make sure to put tape over your webcam.

those bastards
not even sharing with me
god dammit
i'm going to send a strongly worded letter

>have to get multiple programs to do just one thing that foobar does natively
I love me that filename based tag editing for all file types.
>piping to play an ISO
This is just ridiculous.

>inb4 winbabbie
No, just a foobar lover without a good alternative on GNU+Linux.

>windows 10
>impossible to remove

It's impossible to remove without re-installing your whole OS. So yeah basically a virus.

Enjoy your chinese botnet I guess?

> impossible to remove without re-installing your whole OS
It automatically makes a backup specifically so you can uninstall it

Works on my machine.

>botnet player works on a botnet operating system
well no shit

Of course it works, they want a giant botnet and it's easiest to trick people by putting out working software that doesn't seem suspicious.

also

>madonna

let me know when you find your penis.

you got a problem with the most successful female artist of all time?

>It's impossible to remove without re-installing your whole OS
Linux is a virus!

>It's impossible to remove without re-installing your whole OS.

they literally give you the option to downgrade back to whatever OS you upgraded from.

Just found Murica.

>mfw youtube plugin for foobar is very comfy

Yes, you are.

source?

Also, downgrading from one virus to another doesn't get rid of the virus.

search "how to downgrade from windows 10". not spoonfeeding you any further than that.

>Also, downgrading from one virus to another doesn't get rid of the virus.

I guess that makes all operating systems viruses then.

Foobar is shit anyway

Unless the OS is open source.

>I can't figure out how to customize
>lol I don't want it anyway

fucking fox and grapes

Yes... Yes it is.

speaking of android. How come the pre installed music player cant even into flac? How come literally all players from the play store that can into flac are bloatwear and rape your privacy? Why is android so bad lads? Is IOS better? Probably not.

>freetards

foobar doesn't need to be open source. you can already customize literally every fucking aspect of it.

youtube-fs is better. let you mount youtube as a browsable files system.

Can you customize the source?

they're nonexistent.

refusing to release the source isn't an IP right, it's a real property right. IP would be being forced to release the source or forbidden from releasing the source because of the license (property of author, follow author's wishes).

keep foobar closed source = build cool go-kart, refuse to share.

OH THE MORAL ATROCITY!

can you tell me why you would ever need to? your paranoid delusions isn't a valid reason.

>have to save the videos somehow to your account to be able to browse them
Seems kinda dumb

is that why it's so NOT flashy and attractive to the kind of users that you can use for a botnet?

Can't an author just do something for pleasure and pride and not be criticized for it?

because I want to extend it.

you can extend it with extensions/themes. have you even tried? oh no you haven't, cause you're just shitposting, right?

No you don't

If he was proud he would release the source. Clearly he is far from proud.

You can't extend the source you retard.

Oh okay, so you want ANOTHER PERSON to hand over THEIR SHIT because YOU want to fuck with it to no particular end

>hey man can you give me your car
>i want to put a rad spoiler on it
>"no"
>muh freedom but it would be better why do you hate progress

and I asked you why the fuck you would ever need to and you still haven't given me any reason, so what is it then?

IOS can't flac either

is there literally any evidence whatsoever suggesting that foobar is a botnet or is it just autism?

also NEVER EVER, lincucks. foobar is ours. deadbeef doesn't even come close.

That's not a good analogy.

If would be more like a company is giving away free cars and won't let you look under the hood.

Not only that but there are plenty of other free cars that do let you look under the hood.

You're a dumbass if you don't think this is suspicious.

>pre installed music player cant even into flac
Are you on a fucking 2009 HTC Nexus? FLAC is native to Android for like 4 years now.

>barebones UI
I just want a software to play music. I don't need to compute A.I. in it

That's so laughable, I understand that it might be a little strange to put large lossless files on a device with very limited storage and a shitty dac and headphone jack (if it even has one). However I own most of my music in FLAC, because why the fuck not and I have absolutely not the patience to convert it for my phone. Also FLAC is FOSS and there is literally not a single reason for any so called music player not to support it.

>is there literally any evidence whatsoever suggesting that foobar is a botnet

It's closed source and free. What more evidence do you need?

>i want it to be open source so i can implement an extension directly to the source instead of through the extensions API!

ALAC is a chinese botnet

You were right to choose FLAC

Order of operations you fuck

It's not like looking under the hood

It's like being handed the full schematics, including programming for the machines that assemble the car.

It's your car, not your set of schematics. You can look under the hood all you fucking want, just have fun figuring it out or fabricating replacement parts.

FLAC is a meme, and a multitude of blind tests on thousands of dollars of equipment prove it.
For any practical purposes 320 MP or V0 is enough. FLAC is overkill.

>f2k not being open source means it's botnet and virus
ahhh new memes smell so fresh

and what do you suspect it's doing exactly? selling your media playback statistics to google? take off the fucking tinfoil hat already, retard.

So autism it is, then.

Why would this be a problem for him?

FOOBAR CONFIREMD BOTNET

is this a new meme? I think this is a new meme. FOOBARBOTNET

Packet dumps?
Memory dumps?
Suspicious file handler activity?

The only thing new is you. Foobar has been suspected for years do some research baka

It's still 1508 you fuck

>500*2 = 1000
>1000 + 500 = 1500
>1500 + 8 = 1508
>year of our lord and savior 1508

I know for a fact FOOBAR injects ads into your OS.

It's a sophisticated virus, it can't be detected using traditional means.

Multiplication before addition and then solve from left to right.

So 1508.

>I know for a fact FOOBAR injects ads into your OS.

then prove it you fucking retard. go on, I'll wait.

Why in christs name are you putting the burden of proof on the accuser

>I know for a fact FOOBAR injects ads into your OS.

That might be as is, but I have about 20TB disk space and I don't see any reason not to download in a lossless format. Most good music DL places offer only lossless anyways.

i'm one of the people who originally accused it of being a botnet

but if it's a botnet you should be able to find out.

the fact that you haven't says something about the tech incompetence and social retardation of fossfags

>i dunno how a computer works gimme a python script already
>ask or pays someone who knows? lol no, i'll just shitpost about how much i care

Yes, and the * goes first

Le i have nothing to hide meme. Except inside my music player lol

> Worried that a windows only player might be a botnet
You're already using a spyware botnet, what does it matter?

Never did i say i use foobar

then why not install it in a VM and do some research?

Hacker you will be free. Hacker you will be free

VLC has nothing to hide, nothing to fear

What is there even to hide? Your shitty music taste? Who gives a fuck.

It also has nothing going for it.

I have nothing to hide... foobar does or it would be free as in speech

My 500gb library of pirated music?
That seems like a thing anyone would want to hide

Changing the background color != operate with the source of the software

I thought it was known for a while that Foobar injects ads? I don't mind them, Windows 10 already has ads built in so I hardly notice them.

and how would they know you didn't rip those files yourself from CDs?

This

Because I don't have those CDs

>Foobar injects ads

You keep saying that, but where is your source?

>trying to samefag so it makes it look like you were right

>reading all these accusations towards foobar

I'm getting a bit paranoid here lads

>
>Because I don't have those CDs
Lol
Juat because youre paranoid...

So Cred Forums, what is the best open source music player to use, both on GNU/Linux and Windows ?

how the fuck would they know that?

Well you should be.

All it is is a music payer right? And the developer doesn't sell the software, so why does he not just open the source?

It's because he's hiding something.

My guess is ad injection .

foobar2000

Just use unix tools like pipes and stuff. They're very powerful.

>My guess is ad injection .

So you admit you have no source for this bullshit? Fucking figures. Stop making up lies.

Is it a lie that the source is closed?

Are you american?

>barely functioning autistic freetard talks out of his crusty asshole yet again
Might as well post frog images too.

You can't just jump to the conclusion that the player injects ads based on the fact that it's not open source alone. I'm still waiting for that solid proof of yours that it injects ads.

When are you gonna stop spewing this bullshit?

>autism, the post

It's closed source so that he can reuse code for the app and charge money for it. Whether or not this was his original intention when he released the player is up for speculation, but I'm willing to bet that that's why he kept it closed source even now.

Fucking retarded

Dear god, go back to school man...

Reminder that Cred Forums is also closed source.

>america.jpg

why should he release the source? what's the point of open source? no seriously name me one fork of a program, any program, that's worth a shit

this

i'm sure he's hiding it just in case he wants to make money off of it someday

what happens with you get injected ads? what does that even mean

literally nothing. there is no ad injection. it's just fearmongering made up by assmad freetards because foobar isn't available for linux.

I can listen to FLAC from the default player user

Hm I have an older phone, it's possible that they fixed it by now.

I like clementine

And Cred Forums is a virus just like foobar.

Cred Forums definitely injects ads too (just like foobar).

>what's the point of open source?
Uhhh so you know what the fuck you're actually running? what are you fucking retarded holy fucking shit.

There is no reason to keep the source a secret unless the author is hiding something.

It's just a music player, right?

Foobar injects ads into your browser and desktop. Ads you see on the internet are replaced with the foobar authors ads so he can make money.

closed source is popular because people don't like others coming along and fucking up their hard work, dumbass

> Cred Forums once again failing to understand not everyone is a fucking gommie and will protect their work even if it's distributed for free
EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FREE AS IN FREEDOM WAAAAHHH WAAAHHH MOMMY WHY IS THIS PIECE OF PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE FREE AS IN FREE BEER I WANNA USE IT WAAAAHHH WAAAHHHH

thats very hard to pull off, and takes money to protect.

How would anyone fuck up foobar if it was opensource? Can people just commit changes without the authors approval? Then when the author sends an update it goes to everyone?

the fuck it up by making shitty forks and giving the original a bad name because of it

All he has to do is change the license

It takes less than five minutes. Make it BSD.

It is free, just not open.

Suspicious as fuck. >>

VLC

t, employed person

Name one instance where this has ever happened.

protip: you can't

prove it already, fuckface.

name one instance where a fork was anything but shit. there's no point in letting hacks piggyback on your work

Wow that's an immature attitude.

Is the developer 14?

He doesn't even make any money (right?) so who cares if people use his code.

Sounds like he just has an immature attitude.

It works on Linux through wine.

But it upsets my minimalism autism that I have to be using wine specifically for just one program and that Wine needed to download 400MB worth of files just to get this working. However, I am pleased with how it works and it feels like a native program.

I am in the camp of "Foobar should be open-source already." It's the only non-Video Game piece of software that I can't get on Linux at this point.

What DE is that?

cinnamon

Windows 10 only gives you 11 days to go back. They gave 30 days before the anniversary update. After that MS deletes all of the files needed to go back without an OS reinstall. I work at a computer repair shop and this caused a lot of issues when customers were upgraded without their consent, and then waited to bring it in.

I would never run Microsoft software on my own computers, unless it is kept in a VM where it can't hurt anyone.

It wouldn't get stolen if he released it under the GPL

Linux

>He could release it under a liscense
>implying people actually pay attention to licenses

If foobar is so bad what's the open alternative that has all the same features?

nothing.

Foobar has a monopoly on being the best music player and it's the only one with components that can play obscure video game ripped music.

That is true, I do have a collection of .rsn files.

Yeah it's a confirmed malware.

How about someone emails him and asks?

>upsets my minimalism autism
>uses a DE
autism alright

>He doesn't make any money off of it.

>implying kickstarter isn't "making money"

Blackplayer? I imagine it can do FLAC. Same with Poweramp, but I just recently switched to blackplayer because it's a superior player.

No, OP is just an autist

Foobar works pretty well on Linux actually, a lot of people use it.

I prefer using Musicbee though. It just werks.

>people not knowing that foobar secretly becomes the final boss of your PC when you loop the same song for long enough
Injecting ads is just the leadup, the real kicker is when it starts firing laser beams at your other windows and eating small children through the disc drive. It's a monster I tell you, I had to get Richard Stallman himself to exorcise my computer.

>takes ~200mb of ram to run just so that it won't look like shit

why dont you reverse engineer it? :^)

because making anything open sores turns it into garbage

No, he is not. Chrome and Edge are NOT open source. Get your facts straight, faggot.

I can give you a 1/10 for this try.

not everybody is a communist freetard like you, get over yourself.

dude should build some linux binaries and still not open up the code to piss off the freetards just a little more

>play SACD or DVD-A ISOs like foobar
What's the point? Can't you just make FLAC-rips of those like everyone else?

Wat

Oh you didnt know civilation on murrica is not very old

>Trollface
Use WinAmp instrad

You know what does do FLAC?

Foobar for Android.

Just use mpv from inside termux you retard. Native java-obsessed android is a waste.

say it ain't so

i've been using Foobar for 10 years

Best b8 I've seen in a while

>muh special snowflake music player
Just use VLC.

I only use foobar for conversion

Default player is best player.

>lightweight UI that gets the job done and can look decent
>this is somehow bad

Better yet

Just don't download shit in retarded formats.

What sort of autistic media files are people using that audacious or if your extra autistic mpd/this week's ncurses client doesn't do?

I swear you people are actually autistic irl

>I'm better because I use more popular software even though it's objectively inferior

>Having a license will stop those thieves from being thieves

lightweight is just design major faggot code for "missing features/baby friendly"

This is like normies thinking Linux has some sort of catch, just because it's free.
Do you realize that some people actually LIKE developing software?

Honestly what's stopping someone who makes a fork of something open source from filling it with viruses. Or even crowd sourced things that are open source. Unless you really go through every line of code to see what it does you probably won't notice it.

Who cares? Just use MusicBee like a non-autistic adult.

Anything good is worth protecting. Big companies that open source are doing it for a reason. It's financially viable for them one way or another. Only true retards like the Richard Stallman do it for free because they have no talent and use open source to get an upper hand. Plus they just want free shit.

Paint.NET went open source... Now it's closed source because freetards can't be trusted with anything good.

this board is truly not worth a cent anymore it only consist of mentally challenged basedwelling neckbeards which are thinking they are gods amongst men since they can install a shitty linux distro

...

>proprietary shit that if he didn't protect would be stolen in a heartbeat by every shitty android music player "developer," plus apple and microsoft
Do you know anything about licensing? He could just make it open-source so no one could legally fork it, or he could make it GPL so people who forked it would have to use the GPL as well.
He would lose nothing from this.

>success is a measure of quality
McDonald's makes the best food in the world, I guess.

sox

This guy is right.
This guy is not being smart.

The final release code of chrome and edge is secret and proprietary. May contain anything. The open source code they use isn't GPL.

that was one stupid question honestly

Probably shy and doesn't want his code scrutinized.

>seriously name me one fork of a program, any program, that's worth a shit
LibreOffice
egcs (later merged back into gcc)
Xorg
OpenBSD
NetBSD
mpv

>So if it's just a music player and it's free then what is the developer hiding?
He is selling your data from his Android App.

OP is trolling

Don't use it if you don't like it.

No. OP poses a good question.
The code is probably just pretty bad and/or contains unlicensed bits from either FOSS projects or the author's employer.

to even consider him seriusly

>he is not
yes, you are, my samefagging newfriend.

Audiophiles are retarded. Remember that!

use deadbeef, its foobar but for linux

Maybe he doesn't want freetards stealing his hard work that he has put so much time and effort in to just so some retarded lincuck passes it off as their own work just like Stallman has done for 30 years with UNIX base tools.

You wont get the code to fb2k, or Windows but keep begging like the homeless scum you are.

I still haven't seen anything better though.

>>implying there's even a good way of renaming music files based on in-filename tags
there is even better, ncmpcpp

show me the source then mother fucker

Maybe his code is garbage and foobar #justwerks so he doesn't want to humiliate himself with spaghetti code.

Why would I want barebones2k over DeaDBeeF?

Those quads, though.

you are in idiot

>barebones2k over DeaDBeeF

DeaDBeeF is literally a shitty clone of fb2k with a lot less features lmao. People unironically install wine to use fb2k rather than stinky rotten meat players.

Linux is open source

This.

>UI=AI
Sides=obliterated

Only virus makers release the source since it lulls idiots into a false sense of security.