I'm TSA. We'd like to check your laptop

>I'm TSA. We'd like to check your laptop.
>Sir, we can't find Windows or Mac on your laptop. Can you explain this?
>We'd like to examine your phone as wel- I NEED BACKUP, NOW!

Is being a Cred Forumsentooman basically a curse when traveling?

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youtube.com/watch?v=ltdgSEPPCZs
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abcnews.go.com/Travel/history-airport-codes-logic-letter-codes/story?id=11684406
dailyunconstitutional.com/1801-man-protests-tsa-strips-naked-at-portland-international-airport/
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Doctor Pavel, I'm TSA

TSA, I'm CIA

Nope, I'm white

What kind of TSA agent physically snoops through one's files? Don't they just X-ray them to make sure they contain actual components and not a bomb?
>using gentoo
Nerd.

kek

this is what they exactly do, they might press the power button once to check its not a bomb, but they x-ray it.

they don't physically download files or look through it.

They don't. I fly weekly.

The only time it's a concern is if you're stopped entering another country on suspicion of working without a visa. They then look through your files, email, texts etc. to establish why you're really going there.

When re-entering the USA, as a citizne you can come back in, but any/all of your stuff can be stopped. That's why the easiest method for international travel is for your company to issue you a new, cheap laptop that you use to remote into your company's network. That way if you get stopped, you say no to the search and let them keep the $100 laptop with nothing on it, then go on your way.

Don't I have to give permission for them to go through my stuff?

If you're at the US border you have no rights

Ha! Windows? Mac? No way! I use a distribution of GNU/Linux called Arch. Now, let me tell you why Arch is superior in every way...

>Use elementary
>Normies think it's a mac
;^)

What, in America? Come on, this is the land of the free. They can only seize any tangible objects, arrest non-citizens indifinitely, monitor everything that you communicate through or might and give an order to a company to give all the possible data associated with you and ban any talk about this with anyone but them. Only terrorists think these are too much!

>they might press the power button once to check its not a bomb
What could go wrong?

Americucks get their personal computers searched in order to get on a plane?
LMAO

This is a good thing how?

Blending in with normies is vital to having a successful life. And evading the TSA, apparently.

> mfw I recognize that airport.
That's PDX.
I live here.

>implying TSA actually examines the contents of your devices

I travel with my laptop as my 'second item' of carry-on and have never had any issues. also i've travelled with my openmoko freerunner neo running gentoo with 0 problems.

You have no rights when concerning travel.

Supreme court recognized that flying is not a right guaranteed by the United States, therefore TSA can have you sign a lengthy legal document, generally signed when buying the ticket.

Why all American airport name's abbreviations have an X at the end?

I've never seen them power on a laptop in my 100+ flights.

Or you do TSA pre-check and go sit through the interview and background check. Then you don't even have to take your shoes off. It's worth the yearly fee if you travel that much.

blog.tsa.gov/2010/01/can-tsa-copy-your-laptop-hard-drive-and.html

TSA doesn't search laptop hard drives. That's what Customs and Border Protection does. All the TSA will do is check it for explosives.

YES. idgaf what any of these fags say, unless you're travelling internationally they DO have to ask you before they open your bags.

HOWEVER...

If you decline, one of two things will happen:

1) You will be told that you cannot fly, because they will not clear you to pass through the security checkpoint unless you allow them to go through your stuff.

and/or

2) They detain you, search not only your things but your body cavities as well, as you've just been marked as a suspiscious person and now have no rights because as far as they're concerned, you're a terrorist.

The second one is unlikely if you're white, though, unless they're having a VERY bad day.

Source: I used to work at one of the two Virginia international airports that serve the DC area with lots of politicians and important persons passing through daily.

Truly the land of the free.

Not all. Just seems to happen when they don't have 3 reasonable letters they want to use. Los Angeles for instance. It's LA... what more do you want? But airport codes are 3 letters long, so LAX. Plenty don't have an X. ATL for Atlanta or BOS for Boston for instance.

They used to back in ~2005. They would pass it the moment they saw the BIOS screen or a resuming OS come up. They didn't care what came on the screen, just that there was enough in there to put something reasonable on the screen -- the thinking being that if you hollowed out enough space to put a bomb inside, there wouldn't be enough space for a functioning laptop.

This was before tiny things like Raspi or Macbooks with a nearly handheld sized mainboard. So obviously today you COULD put a functioning computer, a small battery, and a bomb in the shell from an old bulky laptop.

Today though their xray scanners have gotten better, so they can see if there's something suspicious in that mess of electronics in a laptop. They still make you take them out of your bags and run them through separately, but they no longer make you power them on.

They don't. Only a few do.
LAX - LA International
LEX - Lexington
PDX - Portland International
JAX - Jacksonville
PHX - Phoenix

That's 5 out of like 200 lol

The one's with X in their name make sense. The ones that don't were used to distinguish the airports. LA had multiple airports for a long time. Phoenix didn't.

TSA doesn't have the authority to search your computer. Only customs can do that, and I've personally never seen it happen.

Mr. Robot, I'm FBI.

>install Linux without a de on laptop
>take to airport
>TSA stops and asks you to unlock
>boot straight into terminal

Alternatively
>Dual boot Linux and windows
>Make Linux partitions hidden from Windows
>Boot into windows
Anything wrong with these two strategies? It's not like the TSA guys are smart enough to know how to use Linux without a GUI.

strategy two would probably work if your windows install was fairly populated. strategy one would be a disaster. you would have to go through more stages of investigation, and might have to reschedule your flight if there wasn't someone there who knew how to work the terminal.

no. it's only for overseas travel and will probably only happen if you're brown.

reminder TSA is just a show and doesn't accomplish shit

...

>implying any of this would ever happen
If they're searching your laptop's files, you fucked up already and got on some kind of list.
In that case, the worker looking your shit over will probably fall for step 2 pretty fast. Even if its not populated, just say you mostly use it for facebook.

once some autist went through TSA in canada with a ANIME WALLPAPER and they fucking arrested him for 3 months and banned him from using computers for a year

youtube.com/watch?v=ltdgSEPPCZs

fucking BTFO

>using the smiley with a carat nose

I cannot find the video clip, but in canada, some furry almost got this treatment.

I found it bro: youtube.com/watch?v=6y_5b1JsIs4

Never had this issue. They tend to not look at white people.

Not in canada bro. White travellers get the "pedophile" treatment. If you ever visit asia, or are white and travelling not for business, they think you got CP.

abcnews.go.com/Travel/history-airport-codes-logic-letter-codes/story?id=11684406

>This video contains content from Seven Network, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

BUT I'M IN THE US OF A

TSA has no jurisdiction in Canada.

>They then look through your files, email, texts etc. to establish why you're really going there.
LAND OF THE FREE

Use Dexpot

One desktop for all your normie needs
One desktop for all your waifu porn

I haven't flown in 10 years, does the TSA really check your laptop when flying?

>That's why the easiest method for international travel is for your company to issue you a new, cheap laptop
no, the easiest method for international travel is the same as it's always been.

Fly with a carry-on bag, ship your electronics separately.

the security complex is the next huge bubble but im afraid its only going to grow enormously from here with all the hype since that one 3 digit number that keeps getting spammed. controlfreaks who are rich simply need to know everything and assume everything even when its false just to make simpletons unknowing honest folks lives harder.

>ship your electronics separately.

Retard.

ok, carry on with your convoluted solution that requires _literally throwing away a computer_ on every trip you make

I have two problems with this guy's situation (but not him).

First,
>ever giving up your password
Defeats the purpose of having one then.

I'm not trying to fight for or against privacy acts, but this is law enforcement overreaching to look like hot shit.

And no I've, fortunately, never had to deal with this shit.

Second, (around 9 minutes in)
>he had to contemplate whether the image was obscene or not
Obscene is subjective, especially when associated with sexual content, but to contemplate that (or be made to) is outright retarded.

His wallpaper is old as shit, nothing new, and it's not obscene at all just because it features content that will subjectively trigger payroll officer of the day.

Literally googling "anime sex positions" instantly returns the image. Congrats officer, you stopped one man in this global scheme of doing nothing wrong.

It's sex people! Whoa! And an adult man is affiliated with the image? Must be a fucking pedophile and scum of the earth.

Thanks for linking this though, it was insightful and now I know how to deal with this if it ever happens to me.

>nice blog
Thanks.

Just... don't put porn as your wallpaper and you'll be fine.

I flew a little while ago in America. All they did was take the laptop out of it's case and run it thru the xray machine. Neither airport opened it.

No. They sometimes ask people to turn them on just to verify that they're not trying to smuggle something crammed into a gutted laptop case.

THE FIRST ONE TO STRIP GETS TO BOARD MY AIRCRAFT

>I'm TSA
Fuck off Americuck, you're not relevant to anyone in the first world.
>inb4 burgers claiming to be first world

what if I use 3d porn?

like a bimbo blonde with big fucking tits spit roasted by 2 niggers

Used to. Have you flown recently? Haven't seen them do it with any of the laptops going through the xray in the past maybe 7 years. Their xray machines are better now and can see well enough inside a laptop to distinguish if it has anything fishy going on inside.

Hahhahaha I know right? would have missed it if is wasn't for the carpet

No you can't import porn into some countries. Like if you were going to australia and they find porn on your laptop, they can confiscate the laptop.

Nah, they just x-ray it these days. You'll have to take it out of the bag/case, but that's it.

Also one point I left out, promoting bias over subjectivity.

Let's say the original officer A who had the problem took it to officer B who would otherwise be fine with it (and know it's okay) instead of speaking up decided to save face and avoid the personal hassle by accepting the bias provided to him by officer A.

This escalates further and further up the chain until so many people share the same idea and try to pass it off as objective when it's really not.

...

How applicable is the phrase "While I may have nothing to hide, I also have nothing to show."?

Especially with locked electronics.
I doubt software and files are going to blow anything up.

yeah, when you're actually IN the country. Why shouldn't a nation secure its borders? Serious question.

Private fields are 4 characters.

SeaTac is SEA, Crocket Field is 4WA2.

The irony. I love it.

No you don't, no they don't
Yes, digital wise

remember, human rights don't exist in America.

>ANOTHER 'lol tsa encrypted hard drive XD' thread

fuck you are all tools

Blowing up one officer is better than blowing up a plane.

>The Seven Network is an Australian commercial free-to-air television network, owned by Seven West Media Limited.
>Australia
I don't see SHIT about USA at all

also
>CEO: Tim Worner
kek

uhhh, just so ya know, that's a pic of a protester who stripped naked under his own volition.

dailyunconstitutional.com/1801-man-protests-tsa-strips-naked-at-portland-international-airport/

>what if I use 3d porn?
it's okay if you attach a picture of their IDs showing they're over 21 years old

wheter they consent or not to the sex act itself is irrelevant

Patriot Act. You have no rights. They can send a missile on your house for fun if they want, without repercussions.

>2016
>being American
Enjoy your FEMA camps.

>not only your things but your body cavities as well
What happens when someone had surgery done to reconnect a few things down there and the agent is too rough and internal bleeding happens? The same thing that happens when they tase someone who has a heart condition? Asking for a friend of a friend of a friend.

with the amount of security americans have to go through, to the point where their liberty has been almost completely removed, you have to ask yourself, did the terrorists win?

i think we all know the answer

if only we had transporters that can filter out any guns, drugs, bacteria, etc, in a humane way

>etc, in a humane way
Where "etc" is dog whistle for N*ggers.

>disarmed and cucked yuros, ruled by their muzzie overlords who they are forced to pay insane taxation to support think they're better than anyone

youtube.com/watch?v=6y_5b1JsIs4

Yes because they really want to see what a unwashed autistic virgin has on their phone/laptop.
You are one sad fuck. Have fun at college kiddie....fucking freak

reported for terrorist activity.

O'Hare is ORD. McCarran is LAS. Logan is BOS. Dane County Regional is MSN. General Mitchell is MKE.

>3 digit number

Explain?

So... coming back from my future trip to Bangkok/Sing and Japan will get me checked?

What? Do you think you have rights or something?

>Sir
You what??!!!!! HAAALP I'M BEING ASSAULTED AND OPPRESSED!!!!!!!111111111

On am more seriopus note, I was never asked about what I have on my laptop at airports, and I traveled last week. I had a laptop, two external HDDs and two phones.

tell me about this phone in op

Why is any of this a concern?

>bring ENCRYPTED laptop at boot
>show them
>they ask you to enter the password
>tell them it is confidential

Problem. Fucking. Solved. If they cannot proof you are a terrorist, they are forced to let you go. It's not like they can ship you to Guantanamo Bay at the spot for not being able to supply your password. If they put you in some room, immediately call for a lawyer. Don't say a word. You are out in a maximum of 12 hours.

Alternatively:
>host an (encrypted) server somewhere
>make it remotely bootable/shutdownable
>shut it down before flight
>use laptop to conect with it normally
>keep laptop literally clean, just download vpn software later
>show us your laptop
>here you go ma'am
>thin client
>they boot, see nothing
>why is your pc empty?
>why, you looking for something? maybe I can help? I just did a clean install

Problem. Fucking. Solved.

TSA is just a piece of shit machine for job creation. It is inherently bad at catching terrorists because that's not the goal, it is giving people the feeling they are safe.

Just encrypt your shit but don't make it obvious you are hiding something. Scenario #1 is only useful if you don't mind missing a flight just to make a point. Otherwise, #2. Not that hard.

>tell them it is confidential
nice meme

With phones it works exactly the same. Do a factory reset before hand. Don't connect to cloud. Don't even install a Google/iCloud account whatever. Don't keep shit locally you don't want TSA to see. Alternatively, you can even send (encrypted) sd cards later with the mail containing data if you don't want to download it later.

What? What are they going to do? Just explain this to me? Encryption is not illegal. I am not American so maybe I don't understand the issue.

CIA will actually have standy by waterboarding rooms on all airports in case someone has encrypted data? Then why would a terrorist even travel with it.

You want to be a fucko?

some $15 hour barely-graduated-hs, now-i-got-a-mall-cop+1 badge ain't taking my laptop anywhere

...

>Arrive to flight 2 hours early. Want to guarantee you get through security with time to spare
>TSA searches bags
>"Please boot up the laptop sir."
>(((OH FUCK ITS WHAT Cred Forums WARNED ME ABOUT)))
>Good thing I know how to handle this without looking like a total fucking sperg
>NO I CANT LET YOU SEARCH IT
>TSA agent sticks you alone in an empty room
>Was supposed to board your flight an hour ago, but because you're fucking autistic and have to do things the hard way, you now have to pay to reschedule your flight to be in the middle of the night, AND the TSA still found your furry scat porn collection while also butchering your Admin password on your laptop, and you'll just become the next laughing matter in their break room.
But hey, you got to tell them no, and sit on your ass for 10 hours while the rest of the world moved on, noticing no difference in anything.

>being this autistic
>saving porn on your pc

>implying "HOT BUNNY SHITS AND TAKES COCK" doesnt speak for itself in your web history
>implying you'd be so autistic that a trace of your retarded fap material tastes aren't left behind in some form or fashion

or maybe, hear me out on this one
you get the correct visa before entering the country

not a nice company that makes someone enter on a visitor's visa before they do a product installation or similar

>not deleting web history

I'm with O'Brien on this one

>implying that does shit
>implying they can't just recover your history with FBI crafted tools
>implying they wanted to learn that the fat neckbeard with a raspberry pi phone that barely works in the next room gets his rocks off to cartoon animals taking shits
>implying

kek

What's the phase II of your master plan?

>9/11/2001 + 15 years
>thinking you can fly in the US freely

if you're within 100 miles of the border, literally anyone with an iota of power can "suspect you of terrorist related activites" and your ass is theirs for the next 4 hours. If you want to fly, its even worse.

Xer ?

In Yurope they can order you to turn it on. If it doesn't turn on, it can be confiscated.

I've flew internationally and that never

>TFW too poor to travel outside USA

It's always hilarious yet scary shit when you recognize your surroundings on Cred Forums
I remember seeing the supermarket I go to in a thread once and I was like, oh fuck

O'Brien is always right.

You've never heard of a software bomb?

>watching porn on anything but private/incognito mode
>not running ccleaner twice a day

>being this paranoid 24/7
No wonder sitting in a room for hours doing nothing (to "protect ur freedumz" while not actually protesting) doesn't bother you. Your life is devoid of anything important anyway.

Top fucking kek

>they don't physically download files
true

>or look through it.
FUCKING FALSE

this shit happens all the time in america and canada.

If they find an easily viewable encrypted drive they will force you to decrypt it or destory your laptop.

THAT BEING SAID
they've got shit to do, and dont look too hard

pretty sure you dont have a grasp of technology

They have to make sure that the laptop doesnt contain instructions on how to use parts of the plane itself to make a bomb.
t. american.

CIA, I'm Cred Forums

If you're going through customs, they can force you to give them your encryption password and arrest you if you refuse.

One solution to this is to give them the password to your TrueCrypt decoy OS with nothing in it but a few work-looking documents and a couple games. There's no evidence of the hidden OS at the end of the disk that you haven't given them the password to.

This is a TSA search, not a forensic investigation of your machine. It would take weeks if they were going to give it the full forensic treatment. TSA agents aren't trained in that, so they would have to pack it up and send it off to an expert.

The TSA isn't looking for porn. They're looking to see that your laptop is a laptop and not a bomb. Their x-ray machine can usually tell them enough, but apart from that, they're happy enough if they see a sensible looking BIOS screen, OS login screen, etc.

Of course if they see CP or similar on your desktop, they're going to confiscate the machine and arrest you on the spot. But they're not going to search for stuff if it's not sitting out where it's going to catch their eye.

But why?

>boot into windows partition
>put into sleep
>show TSA

woow that was hard

>use xubuntu
>normies think its mac
>use windows with taskbar on top
>normies think its mac
Normies gonna normie

kek i recognized the starbucks and that shitty little store

In the United States there are actually 3 different systems used for airports: IATA, ICAO, and the FAA location codes.

The majority of people flying have a laptop with them. Reviewing all files on one laptop closely enough to realize that "homework 2015-10-03.docx" is actually bomb instructions would take hours. These guys need to pass each laptop in a minute or so. Even a program doing basically "grep -ri bomb /" would take too long. Sure they'd flag you for a deeper search if they spotted "Bomb Building for Dummies.pdf" on your desktop, but they're not going to search the machine for it.

See . Even if your Linux DE comes up, most people wouldn't see anything that odd about it. Now if you did a full boot of something without "quiet" in the kernel command line it might raise some eyebrows, but would still probably be pretty easy to say it's a special operating system you need for your work.

Hell, even if you changed the 55 AA at the end of sector 0 so the BIOS shows its logo screen and then "Operating system not found", it'd be easy enough to pass it off as "the dumb thing crashed last night and I'm going to take it to the shop after I land".

>Your life is devoid of anything important anyway.
if you have anything more important than your credit card information on your PC you're retarded

I have important things in my life but they're mostly people

X stands for international

>he majority of people flying have a laptop with them.
I was joking.

a long time ago, airport codes could be only two letters
when they updated the standards, they added X to the end as filler

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>it's a "chinese man tries to smuggle undeclared meat" episode

>that fedora

LMAO PEOPLE ACTUALLY WEAR THAT?

I haven't thought of open moko in years, how did the project do?