Seriously, if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear. Using encryption apps like Signal increase your bandwidth usage and use up your data caps even faster.
If you're not doing illegal things, the government won't look at you. Don't you trust the government?
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If I have nothing to hide, why is someone monitoring my nothing?
>Don't you trust the government?
No
I'll bite
>unencrypted messaging
Ever heard of MITM attacks? Only an absolute idiot would think that encrypted messaging's only purpose is avoiding government surveillace.
>Don't you trust the government?
Even if you trust the current one, there's nothing stopping the next one from using the pile of surveillance data that they are sitting on to actively seek and silence the ones that are against them.
OP here, you've convinced me.
Gubbermint, don't look at muh stuff!
Activate!
Encribshub!
Should be good now thx pal
How about this. Just because encrypted communications are secure now doesn't mean they won't be cracked later. They can store them for an indefinite amount of time. You need to think beyond that too.
> if you have nothing to hide, then you have nothing to fear.
b-but I order rocket launchers the deep web
>I'll bite
You shouldn't have. He's clearly baiting.
See: . Mods, please.
Fuck off NSA
everyone in here have child porn, but can't admit
>Using encryption apps like Signal increase your bandwidth usage
don't be fucking retarded, Signal is literally just text messaging
>use up your data caps even faster.
AHAHAHAH LMAO AYYY
Just move to a first world country burgerfag
Text messaging still uses DATA BANDWIDTH
It uses up your DATA CAPS I dont know about you but Australian ISPs aren't very generous.
I've attached a picture of the 'deals'
Daily reminder that you're on a list no matter what you do. You might as well use encryption to make them feel impotent and flaccid
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Daily reminder that 75% of the NSA are rogue contractors that do things like spy on their girlfriends and men they are threatened by. They have next to no oversight at the snooping level
>Text messaging still uses DATA BANDWIDTH
they literally do not
>data caps
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>Don't you trust the government
Laughter fucktouples in size
>Don't you trust the government?
First off no I dont and I believe that no American should its kinda a founding ideal.
Second our government is spying on everything and just saying they are not technically spying until they look up your info in their databases.
Schrödinger's spying. It doesn't technically exist until they look in the box.
So you absolutely have to encrypt everything to have any expectation of privacy at all.
i just wanna beat my dick into my webcam and be left alone
>5gb $115
What if the government used some method to forcibly produce CP from your encrypted data, even if that data was never CP in the first place ? Since the encrypted data appears random and could be anything without the key then it could be CP.
>If you're not doing illegal things, the government won't look at you
People really have trouble understanding the whole snowden thing
THE US GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING AT EVERYONE REGARDLESS AS TO THEIR ACTIVITIES AND IS KEEPING THIS DATA FOREVER FOR SCRUTINY BY WHOEVER IS IN POWER AT THE TIME BE IT SOMEONE SANE LIKE OBABO, SOMEONE INSANE LIKE TRUMP, OR SOME JEW CONTROLLED SLIMEBALL LIKE HILARY
In short; trump is going to look at your dick pics
The most common retort against privacy advocates -- by those in favor of ID checks, cameras, databases, data mining and other wholesale surveillance measures -- is this line: "If you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?"
Some clever answers: "If I'm not doing anything wrong, then you have no cause to watch me." "Because the government gets to define what's wrong, and they keep changing the definition." "Because you might do something wrong with my information." My problem with quips like these -- as right as they are -- is that they accept the premise that privacy is about hiding a wrong. It's not. Privacy is an inherent human right, and a requirement for maintaining the human condition with dignity and respect.
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Two proverbs say it best: Quis custodiet custodes ipsos? ("Who watches the watchers?") and "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Cardinal Richelieu understood the value of surveillance when he famously said, "If one would give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest man, I would find something in them to have him hanged." Watch someone long enough, and you'll find something to arrest -- or just blackmail -- with. Privacy is important because without it, surveillance information will be abused: to peep, to sell to marketers and to spy on political enemies -- whoever they happen to be at the time.
Privacy protects us from abuses by those in power, even if we're doing nothing wrong at the time of surveillance.
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We do nothing wrong when we make love or go to the bathroom. We are not deliberately hiding anything when we seek out private places for reflection or conversation. We keep private journals, sing in the privacy of the shower, and write letters to secret lovers and then burn them. Privacy is a basic human need.
A future in which privacy would face constant assault was so alien to the framers of the Constitution that it never occurred to them to call out privacy as an explicit right. Privacy was inherent to the nobility of their being and their cause. Of course being watched in your own home was unreasonable. Watching at all was an act so unseemly as to be inconceivable among gentlemen in their day. You watched convicted criminals, not free citizens. You ruled your own home. It's intrinsic to the concept of liberty.
For if we are observed in all matters, we are constantly under threat of correction, judgment, criticism, even plagiarism of our own uniqueness. We become children, fettered under watchful eyes, constantly fearful that -- either now or in the uncertain future -- patterns we leave behind will be brought back to implicate us, by whatever authority has now become focused upon our once-private and innocent acts. We lose our individuality, because everything we do is observable and recordable.
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>data caps
L M A O
How many of us have paused during conversation in the past four-and-a-half years, suddenly aware that we might be eavesdropped on? Probably it was a phone conversation, although maybe it was an e-mail or instant-message exchange or a conversation in a public place. Maybe the topic was terrorism, or politics, or Islam. We stop suddenly, momentarily afraid that our words might be taken out of context, then we laugh at our paranoia and go on. But our demeanor has changed, and our words are subtly altered.
This is the loss of freedom we face when our privacy is taken from us. This is life in former East Germany, or life in Saddam Hussein's Iraq. And it's our future as we allow an ever-intrusive eye into our personal, private lives.
Too many wrongly characterize the debate as "security versus privacy." The real choice is liberty versus control. Tyranny, whether it arises under threat of foreign physical attack or under constant domestic authoritative scrutiny, is still tyranny. Liberty requires security without intrusion, security plus privacy. Widespread police surveillance is the very definition of a police state. And that's why we should champion privacy even when we have nothing to hide.
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>someone sane like obama
oh dear
>data caps
lel as if I have some data cap
>Lords year 2016
>Data caps
He's a jew puppet but he's a pretty smart jew puppet. He is at least 10% integrity.
Hilary sits around 0% integrity.
I love it how law enforcement is frantically worried about white people using VPNs but absolutely ignores jamal posing with an uzi and pound of drugs on facebook saying he's going to "blast sum foos" which happens every second. There's about a million jamals they could be paying attention to , it's like these cucks have an internal directive from obama to go after whites.
When I was in the military there was a guy at my command who's job it was to screen emails and internet data. On shore there were other screeners and above them were supposedly more screeners. I wondered where this chain ended, because eventually there would be an end. I figured that maybe the last two people in the chain just screened each others data.
I love how efficiently this logic BTFOs the whole nothing-to-hide-nothing-to-fear argument.
Saying that privacy isn't important because you have nothing to hide is like saying freedom of speech isn't important because you have nothing to say.
Kill yourself.
Post logins and password and let me browse around.
Because not everybody has nothing to hide.
>hur dur I'm not doing anything bad just trust me
Are you seriously this retarded or is this bait?
I should say that if someone can give me an actual reason why "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear" is wrong, I'm willing to become an anti-NSA memester, but at the moment, I really don't care.
Saw this meme the other day. My new favorite false equivalency.
Stop posting this nonsensical quote
Yo, I work for the NSA. We definitely don't care for your dick pics. Be safe people!
you could have the world's cleanest, finest, purest flour in your bag but the government could still decide that it's cocaine and detain you
OP here, Fuck me sideways this whole thread is b8 and you all bit that shit, hook line synka
No government has managed to stay in power, ever throughout history. The rise and fall of regimes is often coupled with brutal political reprisals. The communist revolutions as an example of ideological culling.. In the Americas white governments like the French in Haiti were brutally genocided as an example of race culling
Hillary Clinton has called Cred Forums users deplorable. Her party has tried to link opponents to the Russians as we're headed towards WWIII. This is all while international jewry pushes to make whites a minority in every country.
And the NSA wants us to not encrypt our traffic just because, when those are their bosses
>Don't you trust the government?
Of fucking course not.
My government is hiding things from me.
They wouldn't if they weren't doing illegal things.
>guilty until proven innocent
They assume you're innocent. If there is some doubt about whether you're doing something wrong or not, you're not getting v&. They're just watching to make sure you're not guilty.
a mass-murdering multiple-felon money-laundering charity-embezzling pay2play evidence-destroying secret-selling megalomaniacal epileptic sociopath is about to be the president
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