>Microsoft is moving to a new patching release model >In the future, patches will be bundled together and users will no longer be able to pick and choose which updates to install
I want some control over what I install on my machine. How does Cred Forums feel about this?
Nolan Sullivan
Linux does not have this problem.
Thomas Torres
i don't care about not having control over what's installed. The bigger issue is that youll have to download a huge file every month containing all previous updates.
Easton Lopez
That sounds like a huge waste
Easton Thomas
install gentoo
Tyler Butler
>i don't care about not having control
Is this the future of our society?
Evan Hill
I haven't even had the anniversary update pushed out to me yet. I manually installed it on my laptop but I am waiting for them to push it on my desktop.
Aaron Murphy
sounds pretty typical from microsoft.
Caleb Phillips
It could be smarter than that and bundle all the updates you're missing together when it does the update. Just doesn't show them individually to allow you to separate them.
Kevin Reed
Honestly, this is like watching people standing in the rain wondering why they're getting wet. I can't get upset about every single drop that lands on them anymore, because they're not going to go inside no matter what I tell them.
Parker Rodriguez
so in other words, the only change from how it works now would be that the user can't see the individual items. so it's all about hiding things from the user and not to improve ease of package streaming or something like that.
Ethan Jenkins
All under the cover of being concerned at how many updates aren't being pushed that address vulnerabilities.
Samuel Nguyen
Couple questions
1)
2)
Thanks
Nathaniel Smith
>1) Yes. >2) Definitely not.
I hope that clears things up.
Luis Hall
PC video games have been fucking shit for a while now anyways, I'm just going to run Linux on my desktop.
Brody Cooper
It's a toy OS, so it doesn't matter.
Carter Nelson
I would have swapped to Linux full time if I could have figured out how to get Skyrim running with mods.
Elijah Bennett
I bet you can find the answer in under 10 secs just by googling this simple question
Elijah Nguyen
You answered yes to question 1? The fuck? Citation required because I call bullshit on that.
Eli Rivera
I don't care. Install Gentoo.
Doubt it. Any source? I didn't think so.
Lucas Ward
I can't install updates on my win10 machine even if I want to.
Back when we went from the RC editions to the actual release I used a number of registry tweaks to allow for missing features like custom themes, disable cortana, disable telemetry, disable updates etc etc.
Now after all that time has passed I can't remember for the life of me what I fucking changed and i'm essentially still using the initial win10 initial release.
It does mean I don't have to worry about updates I don't like but on the other hand I also lack quite a few QoL updates that I would actually have liked to have.
Oh well.
Robert Hill
It doesn't bother me at all, user. I use OpenBSD and Linux, not Windows.
However, as a developer that has worked on some largeish projects (50MLOC+) I'm supportive of their decision - this bundling of patches should reduce testing costs since they don't have to test every possible combination of patches with the new patch to see if there are problems, and will make it much simpler to support Windows, and improve reliability. Large software systems are hard enough to deal with, anything that reduces complexity is a *good* thing.
Elijah Ross
"Sorry, but I run linux and so can't help your situation"
Carson Cox
Nah, I tried. I even talk to a Linux professional, and they told me they only allowed one windows PC in their house, and it is hidden in some dark corner and it is only there to allow their kid to play modded skyrim.
Jayden Wright
Makes sense, imagine if you had to support and maintain a scenario where each client could potentially have a mix of thousands of different patches?
It's a software developers nightmare
Brody Scott
microjew is getting too cancerous to deal with. I might have to embrace the gnu/linux meme if they keep it up
Ian Jackson
feels good man
why would i waste my time choosing update
automated makes everything better
Gavin Ramirez
It's in the first line of TFA, I hate when ACs ask questions like this
Caleb Lee
>sick of M$ bullshit >try switching to linux >takes days just to set up a media player >go back to windows
Benjamin Young
Fucking windows 10
fuck this noise
Alexander Bailey
Wut? Just install Bomi.
Thomas Bell
The GNU operating system, equipped with the Linux kernel in its version 4.4 and completed mostly by GNU various other free, libre and open source software, does not seem to be affected by this issue.
Angel Martin
I feel like they are forcing me to bb.... Ubuntu mate.
Brandon Rodriguez
>my machine heh, soon it'll not be your machine, you'll only have a license to use it
Noah Parker
...
Lucas Taylor
>soon
Oliver Cook
There have been several times over the years where Microsoft has had users fix a problem by selectively uninstalling or reinstalling specific updates. Sometimes, in a specific order.
Noah Walker
>installs windows >upgrades to windows 10 >I want some control over what I install on my machine. No you fucking dont. You never done anything to dindicatoin you want any control over anything you own. Dont sit there and tell me you want control now? You're like my niece, talks shit until she wants something, and then when you say "shouldn't have talked shit" shes all "Im sorry". Dont fucking lie to me user.
Colton Davis
This doesn't make any difference. It just means updates are called "cumulative updates", that's it.
Samuel Phillips
I've always said Microsoft doesn't care about the end user. This seems to support that argument.
Guess it's a good thing I run WSUS / SCCM to manage updates...
Alexander Harris
First post best post.
Christopher Baker
Society doesn't have the ability or desire to modify printer drivers.
Nathaniel Kelly
I feel it's about time I switch full time to OSX.
Joseph Edwards
>Control >Windows
If you use windows as anything else than your garbage partition OS for playing games, you're dumb.
Leo Evans
Just for shits and giggles, I decided to see how hard it would be.
>double click steam.exe >steam launches >double click skyrim in steam >fails, error 83 >browse to skyrim folder, launch skyrimlauncher.exe >change settings to maximum shit because 8 year old laptop with onboard intel GMA >just werks
Jackson Murphy
wow, never realized how shit you can scale a game down too. Thats 2001 tier.
Jack Barnes
GG, now getting a mod manager working with it.
Josiah Bailey
And it was still only like 10 FPS. Onboard intel GPUs were pretty damn useless.
A much prettier solution is to just use in-home-streaming to a Windows PC.
Too lazy. I was about to try NMM, but I have to sign up for an account and given that I get virtually nothing out of it, my threshold for saying 'fuck it' is quite low.
Daniel Green
>using a mod manager You don't know how to drag and drop files?
Jaxon Morgan
Congrats on proving nothing then.
You're an idiot.
Wyatt Gonzalez
There are no good mods. It's all mlp and furry crap.
Eli Gutierrez
Well, the game works, why then wouldn't a mod manager? What's so magic about that that makes it impossible?
Brody Parker
Do explain how I'm an idiot. I can play Skyrim and other Bethesda games fine with mods without a silly mod manager.
Andrew Ward
>not using mod organizer Its like you are actually retarded
Gabriel Martinez
>Onboard intel GPUs which one? I just got a skylake but I havnt gamed on it yet so idk what to expect.
Jaxson Kelly
You're showing yourself to be plenty retarded by not giving me a real answer to my question. If you know what you're looking for with the .esp files, you don't need an organizer. Just use the launcher to enable disable at-will, but if you're on Linux, the launcher likely doesn't work.
Ryder Anderson
Don't really care. I have Windows Update disabled. Everything works fine and will continue to work fine.
Connor Ward
If you're using Windows 10, it'll be re-enabled because Microsoft knows best.
Josiah Baker
epic
Thanks for proving you have no idea what you are talking about.
He isn't me, and you can download Mod Organizer without a nexus account. 0.03 seconds on google would have revealed that.
Matthew Miller
I'm not asking about how to get one, I'm asking why the fuck you even need one. The Launcher has one built-in unless you're on Linux. Or you can just do everything manually with the .esp because why the hell not?
Jack Lee
Because it saves space and tons of work. A lot of times you don't want to use the same mods or mods clash. A mod organizer lets you manage that and load order far more easily and without have to have dozens of backup data folders taking up tons of space because mods overwrite the same files and such.
Mod managers were exist for a reason.
Jeremiah Sullivan
Some mods overwrite files if they are aimed at the same resources as an another, so I see that, but I don't see why someone would run multiple mods aimed at the same objective like an idiot. Also, the Launcher lets you disable, re-enable, and set the load order too with it's mod menu, so a third-party program is only beneficial of you can't get the launcher to work. Or as it is the case with Fallout 4, the launcher refuses to let the 'mods' option show up entirely, even with edits to the appropriate files.
Caleb Brooks
sasuga microsoft
Liam Foster
>dropping shit in your data folder like a plebeian Why do you like rolling around in shit
Parker Perry
>I don't see why someone would run multiple mods aimed at the same objective That's why you use a mod manager, so you can have different sets of mods that would otherwise clash. The organizer also sets load order automatically, which reduces conflicts you don't even know exist.
Also, I don't even care about the mod manager. Trying getting the script extender running, smart guy .
Mason King
Mod developer here. That guy is a fucking idiot, feel free to ignore him.
Luis Carter
Script extender, you mean SKSE, right? I forget was the script extender was called since I haven't played Skyrim in awhile.
If so, I've had that thing running for a long time ago already.
Jack Diaz
>there are people on Cred Forums right now that don't use mod organizer
Lucas Fisher
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Ryder Lee
and you can't use your machine while you use it bricking your machine, for hours @ least, monthly
utter, utter garbage
like being in the 90s (microsoft)
Juan Myers
>not just turning off windows update 10240 isn't really that bad desu
Carter Phillips
I'm talking about the ones in the northbridge (GMA 4500 in my case), not on the CPU. The ones integrated on the CPU are significantly better, but I don't have one to directly compare to so I can't really help there.
Easton Johnson
oh ok, I heard they are somewhat good, almost maxed off hl2 for what thats worth. Only thing that tripped it up was some obscure setting that probably wasnt implemented good to begin with/ not supported on linux/ or hasnt been used since the late 90s.
Hudson Ward
blood for the blood god!
Tyler Nelson
that's probably not b she's pressing more like mmmmmmmm
Joshua Morris
I haven't updated my win 7 install for 6 month or so, I just have windows update turned off. How can I install the latest security updates before the patching system changes?
If I turn on windows update and search for updates, it will take hours, and maybe install the botnet updates without asking first.
Daniel Hill
Wsus offline updates. After which you should run spybot anti-beacon to turn off a large portion of telemetry.
Mason Martin
Ok thanks I'll do that on saturday the 1st, I hope it won't be too late.
Cameron Roberts
I believe we're already there. These are the same retards that don't care about privacy because they "have nothing to hide"