FACT: in the USA, the 2.4 GHz band is completely unliscensed, meaning so long as one isn't purposely jamming stuff and have a legit use case anything goes.
FACT: Apple's new earbuds operate on this band.
It is 100% completely legal to interfere with apple's earbuds so long as you have a legit use case for 2.4GHz.
Radio jamming is not a legitimate use for 2.4GHz band.
FACT: OP is a faggot.
there are probably limits to transmission power you're allowed to use
Great, just what we need, more devices on the 2.4 GHz band.
Exactly, but plenty of legit use cases for 2.4 GHz just happen to interfere with other things on the band like old cordless phones and microwaves
The interesting thing is that if one operates them say a couple of seconds every minute, they may interfere with the audio quality of the buds, whilst not affecting things like wifi much
Max power fed into the antenna is 1 watt. This is a fucking lot of power.
>Max power fed into the antenna is 1 watt. This is a fucking lot of power.
Holy shit, I had no idea. How much range do you think a wifi router outputting wifi at 1 watt would have?
Maybe we could build 1337 darknets this way.
Pretty damn far with big directional antennas. Some hams run their own neighborhood internets this way, but rain completely shits it up
Are you saying it's possible to just hook up a microphone to a transmitter and just troll anyone with Apple earbuds in a short radius?
Microwaving food constantly, no matter where you go, is.
Nope, that would require cracking the communication protocols of the buds.
I'm pretty sure you'd get arrested fairly quick for aiming microwave antennas at people.
You got sauce on the Airpods thing?
Are you retarded?
Define "legit".
What if I am? I don't think that would be much of an issue on this board...
so does bluetooth
and bluetooth connectivity is dog shit on android and ios
t. made apps which use bluetooth peripherals
I have a random old motherboard (Asus CUSL2) that completely fucks up nearby WiFi. I guess it would mess up bluetooth as well, tho I never tried that.
I assume I'd be ordered to replace that board if someone found out tho. Like how some people have been ordered to replace their plasma TV since it created noise on bands used by HAM enthusiasts.
Everyone get those tiny chink RC quadcopters and just fly them around all the time
They are Bluetooth headphones, Bluetooth operates on the 2.4Ghz band.
Then don't point antennas at people. The FCC won't even bother to triangulate you in the 2.4GHz band because lol microwave ovens.
Didn't know they used Bluetooth,
Just assumed Apple is using some propprietary system... (Which, imo, wouldn't be so strange, for Apple atleast)
Bluetooth uses frequency hopping to avoid interference / jamming.
You'd have to broadcast on many different frequencies at once, which is clearly an attempt to jamming.
And there aren't too many different bands. One could have an analog device operating across all of them
a pineapple would do the job well
As would a couple of cheap chinese 1000mW wifi adapters with hacked drivers.
App that emits jamming signal from my phone's wifi antenna when?
Would kill your phone really fast
why
sadly, not, this kind of shit is usally encrypted
worth it
A use case could be a directional link, but I think it has to be fixed.
The legal Max for a fixed location directional link is 158watts of ERP or some shit.
So if you setup your direct link, say, across a school campus... 60mhz wide...
It may just interfere.
Computer crime is a joke. Government can't keep up with the mass amounts of victimless crime so who cares if it's legal. But yeah don't use those headphones
>phone emits jamming signal
>accidentally jam yourself
That's the problem though, when you do get caught, you get so fucked, the media has their way with your ass hole, the full vanes of the expanded cock of the law, bearing straight down your neck.
You will go to jail for 20 years.
All because you set the ssid of the unsecured AP at the library to read out "I HATE NIGGERS"
It's next to impossible to be caught for jamming though, unless you're being absofuckinglutely retarded about it
As someone who has seen the fcc go out and locate an illegal broadcast, and go fucking absolutely destroy the fuck out of the front door and escort the hippies at gunpoint to the FEDERAL jail vans... Nah, go ahead, have fun.
>2.4 GHz
Oy vey microwaving goy's brain!
...
Man fuck the FCC. Fucking cunts.
Car remotes operate on unlicensed bands,
No living shit has ever jammed my car remote nor have I ever heard of anyone that happened to him.
Just this one time we were doing testing for a weather balloon telemetry system in same band and my friend couldn't open his car.
Anyone with jamming knowledge is going to think jamming fucking earbuds is petty as fuck.
Jamming anything is petty as fuck
2.4 GHz is an unliscensed band, so the FCC won't triangulate you. Although you're asking to get your ass busted if you purposely shit up wifi over a wide area on purpose.
If you aren't doing it on purpose? Say with a microwave welding machine or a bunch of 2.4GHz cameras? There is nothing they can legally do. Even if you shit up wifi. Unliscensed bands aren't protected like liscensed bands are.
Besides, whats the big deal about unlicensed band.
You can jam any thing you fucking want, its not like there is this anti jamming police.
You have to mess with some serious shit for anyone to care about it to actually go after you.
Jamming consumer products is petty as fuck.
Otherwise jamming is pretty srs bzns for military and intelligence agencies, obviously.
This entire board should probably read the ARRL technician license manual before spewing uneducated nonsense that could get people arrested/fined.
>its not like there is this anti jamming police
Ever heard of the FCC?
While it's true that the ISM bands are usually a massive shit flinging fest, dumping out massive amounts of power to purposely cause problems is likely to get you in trouble if you live near any sizable population.
Some thieves have started jamming car remotes.
It's petty, but lulzy.
So to interfere with audio, you don't need to jam the whole time. Jamming for a couple seconds every minute will be very annoying for listening to music, but not that annoying for wifi.
This is pointless though, as it turns out one can just DDoS bluetooth devices.
If someone is stupid enough to actually get arrested or fined because they believed some bullshit they read from Cred Forums, they deserved it
Good thing I check, double check, and triple check my car doors are locked every time I lock it.
At best they triangulate the source of the jamming signal.
If you are not completely dumb you don't do it for long periods of time from the same location.
Then what?
>arrested for aiming microwave antennas at people
What for?
Jamming their brain waves with cancer cells.
Oh no, somebody stop that man with that low energy non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation emitter!
For it to be truly annoying, you'd need to jam the entire bluetooth spectrum on near daily basis. That's going to get attention.
Obviously, targeting one specific person isn't going to attract much attention, but it's really pathetic. Spending hours to make someone's wireless earbuds temporarily inoperable.
Thread over
lmoa who cares, i have a jammer on my backpack and its on always i go out for uni
No you don't.
>get pulled over for jamming
>im just microwaving my tacobell
in your car?
>yes
sir why do you have a microwave in your backseat?
>why dont you?
Wut aboot 5ghz?
You wouldn't even need to jam these things to get lulz.
>Go to local Starbucks
>Scope out a hipster looking target wearing his iFag headphones
>He goes to the toilet leaving his buds on the table
>Walk by and quickly pair your phone to them
>Wait until he gets back
>Execute hentaitentaclerapenoises.mp3
>>He goes to the toilet leaving his buds on the table
Why would someone do this and not just take their headphones with them into the bathroom and listen to music in there?
I'd rather music than the sweet sounds of someone shitting.
>Walk by and quickly pair your phone to them
>Not just stealing them
I'm talking about fucking with hipsters, not stealing shit like a fucking nigger.
>not just shoving them up your ass for 20 seconds then putting them back down
also
>leaving them on the table alone
a laptop I can understand if there's someone nearby, but who the fuck leaves their $200 headphones alone on a table?
Encoded yes, but not likely encrypted, with very few exceptions, encryption of radio information is illegal except for federal operations, hospital pagers arent encrypted...
>takes out tiny individual wireless earphones to go to the bathroom
>doing this at all
>deciding to put them on the table outside instead of his pocket
You're more retarded than the iFaggot.
Bullshit. Wifi is encrypted.
>Proprietary
Your Google search came up with zero results.
Did you mean 'relabeling other tech and calling it our own'?
Wifi isn't encrypted unless you are using an encrypted protocol over it.
that's wrong, wifi is encrypted.
FACT: apple tracks your menstraul cycle and sexual activity.
>FACT: apple tracks your menstraul cycle and sexual activity.
But doesn't record it or sell it to advertisers. Unlike Microsoft, Google, Facebook et al.
Fixed.
The topic was on Bluetooth, not wifi you idiots
>let's fuck with people who never wronged us besides buying a product we don't like
How pathetic and immature can you get?
>mfw i never even thought of this security aspect
My sides
Oh lawd that's funny
Honestly, I think it's a really cool feature that Apple put in to be able to potentially hear interference due to people using the frequency. Playing the same songs repeatedly gets boring and some variation in noise would really bring a sense of uniqueness into every time you listen to a song.
So, if I make, say, a chat application that can be used for communicating with other phones via bluetooth, I can make it use the 2.4 GHz band and fuck with people's airpods?
This isn't a security issue
I
What?
What do you think applications are capable of doing? You don't get direct hardware access to the transmitters. Shit, the transmitters in your phone likely can't even transmit on that band at all, and even if they could, your application would require custom firmware for the antenna and maybe even an entirely new operating system
>>He goes to the toilet leaving his buds on the table
when was the fucking last time you went out of your house?
No.
>and maybe even an entirely new operating system
Honestly, you probably would only need a custom kernel module.
How to install custom kernel modules on phones:
Step one: Root your phone
Step two: Reflash the ROM with a new OS
Step three: install custom kernel
wait
ITT : People who will go to jail for illegally jamming ISM bands
oh wait, these autistic gigaNEETs will never leave their parents basements and will accomplish nothing more than dunning krugering up Cred Forums with their autistic shitposts
ITT: people who don't understand RF or RF legislation and rattle off some half-truths they heard somewhere online
Rooting is obvious, but any Android user with more than 2 brain cells should have a rooted phone.
With regards to patching the kernel though, you don't really need to reflash the ROM, I don't think. Android has the modprobe utility in Busybox, which allows you to add or remove kernel modules.
There's no limit to how fucking retarded iToddlers are.
>Applefags start getting interference because of microwaves
>Tell them to "sync" the devices to take advantage of Bandwidth sharing
>Pair Earphones and phone
>Place in microwave and cook on your usual setting for the duration of the pairing
How'd I do?
I wanna just get a jammer that broadcasts gay porn audio or the white man march.
Shit would be pretty cash.
What could someone do if you just attached a large battery to a jammer and hid it somewhere in a public place?
How do the authorities even bother with that? It would be months before anybody even realized it was a criminal issue rather than a fuckup.
In the future fucking EVERYTHING is wireless are pranksters going to hide jammers around or out one in your yard?
bluetooth protocol won't let you do that. Not arbitrarily at least.
You have to spoof the pairing handshake between host and device, so it isn't as if you can take over anyone's bluetooth anytime you want.
A lot of devices even have a specific pairing mode, so you can't just arbitrarily spoof someone whenever you want, either.
Is interference a concern for wireless earbuds?
There are much easier ways to fuck with Apple fanboys. Like throwing rocks at them.
>FACT: in the USA, the 2.4 GHz band is completely unliscensed, meaning so long as one isn't purposely jamming stuff and have a legit use case anything goes.
> FACT: Apple's new earbuds operate on this band.
what did he mean by this?
found the degenerate.
Even easier, just flip the iPhones out of their hands while on the train or bus. They're all pussy scrawny fucks that couldn't win any fight, let alone even think of laying a hand on me.
Bluetooth has 79 different channels on the 2.4Ghz band, good luck jamming them all
You don't have to jam it completely. You just have to rotate and disrupt every channel and irritate the iTard.
Bluetooth has smart hopping, it will automatically switch to a different channel if other activity is detected on the current channel
That's why you set a fast rotation that sends out a jamming signal that rotates every 1/60 of a second to cause constant signal drops.
Your average normie wouldn't even notice that, they'd just enjoy their music with slightly worse audio quality or think it's buffering.
>anyone
>not notice a 1/60 second pop or silence every second while trying to listen to music
splcenter.org
>“Horoshima on a light switch.”
As long as they hear Kanye repeat the word nigger at least once a second they're all good.
You overestimate normies.
Good thing most phones have separate bluetooth and wifi antennas you can use simultaneously to flood the 2.4GHz range, one fast and one slow rotating.
Oh boy I didn't think of this
This has potential
I remember something about an aussie oss project that established mesh networks over wifi and some other unlicensed frequencies to do *internet* in rural areas.
ayy